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>>109285666
See picrel

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>>109285666
>Both fans and girls seem to enjoy harassing people with slurs and doing racist jokes
Apparently, the CEO of the company enjoys that too.

>>109285679
Do people actually talk like this

>>109286035
no
cancer, however

>>109285679
>I want to see phase smash those...

So all he cares about is the political culture war. He's not here for the talents, entertainment, or having a good time. He just inserted himself into vtubers/vtubing because he saw an opportunity to co-opt Phase for his political agenda. He's no different from retard troons who jump into male hobbies to make them more "feminine, inclusive, etc" for their political brownie points, not because they actually give a shit about the hobby.

>>109285666
Half of Phase girls are genuinely racist

>>109285666
At this point, yes, because it's become a trophy for kiwifarm retards

>>109285679
No way any person is unironically this obnoxious.
When will retards understand that none of this culture war bullshit matters? The only thing that matters is money, Sakana is a businessman.

>>109285666
>So Phase Conenct
You can barely type.

this situation really shows how much people are done with the left

pippa was based and single-handedly made the company famous through that. a single leftist statement like this, and the company is spiraling into obscurity.

>>109285679
It's baffling how he can easily see the true strategy at play here and yet still comes to the dumbest conclusion possible.

Chuds are making up their own headcanon about this one

>>109286035
british manlets who squat in homes in Ireland apparently do.

>>109285679
you just know this guy is a reddit janny

>>109285767
What was he thinking letting that apology denouncing racism and bigotry get posted when this is one of his most well-known posts?

Kys Bintard

>>109285666
This is supposed to be a sign to start hiding all of the bad shit to protect the girls but the braindead fans took it as a sign to promote the stupid shit that they say. You fuckers want to help the bullies at this point.

>>109285666
yes

>>109286716
They are unironically grooming the talent into racism that will destroy their careers. It's Jelly's chat who walked her into the Minecraft Education yab by sending supas
https://youtu.be/JDxGqGACy3k?t=682

>racism, hatred and bigotry
these are all unironically good things, so of course i don't condone the statement

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>>109285679
hey look, it's one of those phase army again

>>109287179
Based and moralpilled.

>>109286204
Nothing more to add. I'm just giving you a (you) because I think it's important to recognize it

>>109286204
That’s the same reason people like Metokur stuck around Phase, he’s not the dude he was where it was to laugh at the internet. Hes in it so it can become a political statement, even if it comes at the expense of other talents that just want to play video games.

>>109286716
I can't believe someone is being fucking reasonable about all of this.

>>109285666
So is PC gonna get rid of over half of their girls? Based if so

>>109285679
Do phase chuds even want this eurocuck in their corner? Isn't he universally seen as a laughingstock and a massive retard

>>109285666
because its a fucking virtue signal stop pretending you haven't seen this same message 1000s of times over the years it doesn't mean anything its annoying never works and always backfires so youd think fishnigger would be smart enough to not try and dog whistle to retards like you but he has dumbfucks in staff that evidently hate his company and community and hes ok with it.

>>109287202
The fact that they suggested the girls should leave should be a big warning sign to kick these faggots out of the community. They just want to farm them for content now.

>>109285666
Do most people even remember the worst stuff phase does these days?

>>109287179
based unbrainwashed anon

>>109287719
Not by them. Who do you think pays for his server costs?

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>>109286035
Majority do yes unfortunately and it needs to end, by force if necessary. Bigotry only expands and increases every year despite all our efforts legislating and enforcing inclusion and diversity. A great reckoning is on the horizon, keep up the good fight

>>109285666
I like this meme where posters pretend to care about tolerating faggotry on 4chan

>>109285679
When kind of bubble do these people live in that they think Phase Connect taking a mild stand against racism is a catastrophic thing?

>>109286716
how does this work when Jelly has a SEA Monkey outfit

>>109286593
Because there's a difference between edgy/racial humor and literally just being racist? You sound like the trannies who think Astolfo is transphobic.

>>109285666
Most people are mad because it implies that Jelly is racist, hateful or bigoted. They see it as throwing her under the bus to appease a bunch of twitter freaks who only took this as a justification to go after other talents.

>>109285679
These faggots care more about their political righteousness than the success of the talents in the company. Diabolical

>>109287202
how can anyone fall for these grifters lmao

>>109289401
>it implies that Jelly is racist, hateful or bigoted
I mean... let's be real here. She's definitely their most /pol/brained member.

>>109285767
Making a spicy joke and actually believing in them are two very different things

>>109289401
What Jelly tweeted was ignorant.
No actual vtuber worth a shit is co-signing what Jelly said, because if they did they know it makes them look ignorant and racist.

The only people who are upset with Phase taking a mild stance against racism are the twitter retards and dramatubers who made Phase worship a part of their personality because they thought Phase was a racist company they could believe in

>>109289486
does anyone have a screenshot of the actual tweet? i'm out of the loop on what it must've taken to get phase connect to tell a talent to cool it with the racism.

>>109289461
>>109289486
And here's the twitter freaks

>>109289515
do you people live under a rock? twitter has been a right-wing hellhole for years now. the stereotype of "twitter sjw's" is long dead lol. all those people moved to bluesky.

>>109285666
>we do not tolerate wrongthink.
in the context of criticizing minecraft for releasing blatant political agenda tripe instead of real content.

>>109289550
You're just lying

>>109289515
You are a twitter freak too, just the other end of the spectrum. But you think shitting and pissing your diaper over a company taking an anti-racism stance is some end of the world nuke. That is how out of touch with reality you are and how deep in a bubble you live in.

>>109289581
>We do not tolerate wrongthink
Exactly what chuds have said and done to clara.

>>109289642
>a company taking an anti-racism stance is some end of the world nuke
That's not the point I made and you know it.

>>109289550
bluesky was intended as a left-wing echo chamber to compete with xitter but it failed. i just find it hilarious that libtards cheered forcing elon musk to buy xitter when he tried to back out of the deal, only for him to make a somewhat fair platform that utterly crippled leftist iron grip on social media.

>>109289657
>It doesn't count because Clara isn't racist, transphobic, or bigoted in any way. We only want free speech for that stuff.

>>109289657
clara didn't criticize minecraft, she started foaming at the mouth screaming to kill people irl.

>>109289726
So? Don't you guys spam 41% memes?

>>109289486
I can hear Sayu now
>just like my former corpo, phase connect is evil because they threw a girl under the bus. how dare they not stand by their talent and have her take down a racist tweet. you should always have your talents back, no matter how retarded they are on main. this is the most controversial thing in the history of vtubing oh my lord

>>109289726
What she actually did was copy a phrase from Kirk word for word to show the irony.

>>109289515
>don't engage, just obfuscate
The world becomes such a brighter place when you stop acting retarded.
>>109289699
>we want free speech to be hateful
Just go into your closet and scream nigger if you want to get it out of your system. There are and always will be social consequences to the things you say. This is a fact of life.

did Jelly forget she worked for an agency? Genuine question.
In what world would any agency think her conduct was acceptable?
hololive wouldn't. nijisanji wouldnt. phase wouldn't.

The problem is the second tweet, not the first. With the first one, she could have excused herself by claiming ignorance of American history or how the DLC works. In the second one, she basically says she wanted it to be perceived as racist in order to ragebait people.

>>109289807
No, I'm not going to engage with bad faith nonsense.

>>109289763
Nobody cares about your neverending war on Sayu sis, shut the fuck up

>>109289726
If we start punishing everyone for saying outrageous stuff on the internet, you would be the first one to go down, dawg

>>109289726
You are a straight fucking liar. I'd like to break your jaw in real life.

>>109289751
no, we only criticized minecraft for making bad content. you are the bad guys making direct calls for violence and murder, which is not even protected speech.

>>109289823
Her chat was grooming her. They've been leading her into this. What she really believes at this point, only she knows.

>>109289880
i don't say to kill anyone, only your deranged thugs would be rightfully imprisoned.
>>109289882
violent speech again from the libtard bad guys of the world.

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>>109285666
Chud Connect is within our hearts

>>109289804
she supported his murder and called for more murder. this is stuff that should land her in prison.

This could have been avoided if she watched Destiny instead of Asmongoloid.

>>109289943
What a gentleman! Someone with a virtue on 4chan of all places!

>>109289943
>violent speech again from the libtard bad guys of the world
Want to hear more?
>“Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'.”
>George Orwell

The big problem Sakana has right now is that this is the maximum audience that chubs can reach. As a businessman, he has two options: either sell and leave it to someone else, or try to reach a larger audience. To do that, he needs to shed the chub stigma because no worthwhile talent (Mint, for example) is going to join that kind of company, and he'll have to keep settling for recruiting the trash that nobody wants, which also limits the size of sponsors he can get.

>>109285666
the Tenma, Uruka, Lia, Clio, Airi, Rie, Shiina, Eimi, Nitty, Malice, Bibi side of the company is winning biggly
the Pippa, Jelly, Panko, Lumi side of the company is on thin ice

>>109290120
There is no sides of the company, they all support Jelly.

>>109290066
"Murderous libtard George Orwell calls for the unprovoked murder of peace-loving Germans only defending their homeland from Jews, Commies and Weimar Tranny Degenerates"

>>109289985
The phrase she used was exactly what Kirk said, word for word.
It's almost a tribute to him, lol.

>>109290106
Correct, but internally the Phase talents themselves are also unhappy with their employer being branded the "chud company" just because Pippa set the standard for Phase Connect's community in her desperation to farm subs at any cost. Shedding the chud audience is the only correct move if you ever want to be on the same level as Hololive.

>>109289512
Here's what she tweeted.
For context, this is in response to Microsoft tweeting about a DLC called "Good Trouble". It's a DLC that is part of Minecraft Education, which is supposed to be used in schools to educate children.
As for the content of the DLC itself: it's about various protests like the civil rights movement, but it's not really going into depth into what the protesters were going after. It just leaves a very vague "it was for equal rights" statement and then tells children that sometimes you need to go out and cause "Good Trouble™" while sending them out on quests to vandalize things without getting caught by authorities.

>>109290145
Kek

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>>109289512
Forgot the image.

>>109290168
This reminds me of game devs neglecting their core audience in order to appeal to "modern audiences". Of course, it never works.

>>109285679
>i want these vtubers to serve my culture war agenda
i sincerely hope he kills himself

>>109289401
It doesn't say Jelly's name at all.

>>109289726
>she started foaming at the mouth screaming to kill people irl.
really? what exactly did she say? i'd like to see what got you so riled up.

>>109290256
Ok and? Everyone knows who's being talked about here. Why are you pretending not to understand that?

>>109289581
>downloads political DLC
>wtffff why does it have politics

>>109285679
>I want to see Phase use its power and influence to smash
What power? What influence? What exactly do these guys watch vtubers for?

>>109289726
She celebrated someone's death but showed no intention of killing others by herself. Stop spreading lies

>>109290319
She didn't celebrate it, at worst she doesn't feel pity

>>109290189
>>109290216
I like how the overton window has shifted so far to the right that MLK is now considered a controversial political figure and the Civil Rights Movement requires "taking a side" just to say it was good. What are the sides exactly? Giving blacks equal rights vs not giving them equal rights? How is taking a side in that controversial?

It kinda just comes off as Jelly getting a bit too riled up on stupid idpol-pandering and not realizing the subject matter is about as uncontroversial as can be. Or she's just retarded who knows.

Thanks for the context anon now I understand why Phase management stepped in. If it's just modern political shitposting like Pippa it's understandable to let it slide but when you represent a company and out yourself as a Jim Crow supporter it looks really fucking bad. Imagine someone just emails this tweet to any Phase sponsors, even politically neutral companies will get spooked.

>>109290217
The problem is that 99% of VTubers are left-wing or liberal (no truly conservative woman would be an influencer). To grow, they need better talent, and truly talented people don't need to be right-wing to get views. So they wouldn't accept joining Phase.

>>109289985
Damn, I guess considering it was his words, Kirk was calling for more and more shootings
I guess he got what he wanted

>>109289823
They got their branding by letting the girls say whatever they wanted, this must be one the few times where things went not only out of the Phase bubble but outside of the vtuber bubble as well.

>>109290319
Even celebrated is a strong word. She used a shrug emoji, which I suppose didn't show enough bootlicking appeasement to satisfy the right wing. And she was right. Kirk demonized a minority for money and political advantage, and was shot by a chaser who valued his tranny gf as a person. Nobody on the entire planet forced Kirk to do that but himself. The biggest crime of liberals is that they're chickenshit and weak and think they can talk everybody into agreement, and they're dead fucking wrong. Who know who was right? Clara.

>>109290274
She said she doesn't want anyone to die for their political beliefs
Apparently, this is a bad thing

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>>109289823
for some reason the impression i had of jelly was of her being one of the least controversial and just "wanna be cute and play games" vibes and it turns out she's one of the most retarded ones.

I FUCKING TOLD YALL THIS WOULD HAPPEN WHEN PIPPA PUT OUT THE HOGWARTS NOTICE
It took longer than 2 weeks but I was fucking right and you simps all called me a schizo.

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>>109290340
https://education.minecraft.net/en-us/lessons/lessons-in-good-trouble
The DLC in question. Not only should this be completely non-controversial for anyone that isn't an illiberal MAGA terrorist, it's actually kind of cute and wholesome that they made a Minecraft thing for kids in school. My school just had Flight Sim on all the computers.

>>109290217
If your core audience thinks racism is funny you should probably change your core audience even if it means making less money in the short term yeah. Chuds are cringe.

>>109290419
>They got their branding by letting the girls say whatever they wanted,
it's 2026, not 2022 anymore.
Jelly wasn't even in Phase Connect when it was really like that and it was an anything goes world. All Jelly has known is corporate sponsor Phase Connect with 4 managers and cons every month and campaigns with games and 3d concerts.

Phase has been making efforts in the last 2 years to clean the shit up. Jelly and Clara both pulled down their pants in the middle of the table and took figurative dumps while everybody is trying to eat.

The responses from the members have definitely been by the far the most interesting part of this whole ordeal.
>Tee hee! Our company just threw us under the bus! Now’s the time to make stupid sly remarks instead of taking any sort of meaningful action! See! We’re based like you guys!
Now would be a perfect time for some of that “good trouble”, eh? Of course nothing going to happen, standing up against your employers? That’s for woke-brained propagandized libtards!

How ironic.

>>109290494
Yeah jokes about race are funny, sorry if that offends your white upper-middleclass ass.

>>109290426
>Kirk demonized a minority for money
You're a fucking brainwashed retard. Kys faggot.

>>109290461
>Fight for your rights if the government is trampling all over them
Do you guys want to be bootlickers or something? You talk about the DLC brainwashing kids but the people opposing the message just want a different kind of brainwashing.

>>109290461
what's the problem here?
when did protesting become bad? isn't America founded on protest and fighting for civil rights? the boston tea party was literally a bunch of "antifa terrorists" destroying company property to protest the government.

>>109290522
>Jelly not suspended
>No repercussions whatsoever
>Multiple members openly supporting her
>Date already set for a group collab with her
>Several remarks stating they fought back behind the scenes
Yeah they sure did nothing.

>>109290419
If anything it's a testament to phase's small size that they didn't go viral for something like this before.
I don't think these phase fans understood that if phase became bigger, they wouldn't be able to get away with their "edgy" humor as easily.

>>109290483
>non-controversial
Multiculturalism do be the source of like 99% of the world's problems tho

>>109290522
You guys need to remember they're all under contract and only an idiot would fuck that up for something like this.

>>109290522
>Tee hee! Our company just threw us under the bus!
most of the girls do not feel this way. most of them are likely mildly pissed at Jelly for causing damage to their company name.
Most of them would not find what Jelly tweeted acceptable and don't want her thoughts representing them.

This is a corpo, and they all know it. This is what they signed up for. You don't just get to say whatever you want on main with no consequence.

>>109290565
>when did protesting become bad?
2016

>>109290340
First of all, with this timing it's obvious the DLC is being pushed as propaganda to recruit child soldiers for the ICE protests.
Second, Jelly isn't American, and doesn't care too much about American politics and history. And yes, I'm aware Mandela and Gandhi are there, but she's not from those countries either.
Third, "I hate political propaganda being shoved into my video games" is a very milktoast take. Phase saying that that is a bigoted/racist statement is a huge mistake on their park.
And finally, a question for you and the other Jelly antis on the Civil Rights movement itself:

Why do you guys believe that access to white people and white communities is a human right that non-whites are entitled to?

>>109290576
I don't see why not, there's lots of streamers even bigger than Hololive that are way more edgy than Phase.

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>>109290647
>with this timing it's obvious the DLC

>>109290475
I want to hear more, O mighty Nostradamus

>>109290647
>First of all, with this timing it's obvious the DLC is being pushed as propaganda to recruit child soldiers for the ICE protests.
nta but it is for Black History Month.

>>109290514
Yeah but Elfinpsyop died and Jelly wasn't going to let Powdur soak up all those fans all by herself.

>>109290647
>Mandela and Ghandi
Ah yes, the leader of a murderous terrorist organization and a rapist.

>>109290647
>Why do you guys believe that access to white people and white communities is a human right that non-whites are entitled to?
This is an extremely dishonest interpretation of the civil rights movement and is not what was being fought for. Jim Crow was not a good faith attempt at "separate but equal" and you know it.

>>109290189
>>109290216
Reasonable response and of course they would use something as unassailable as the civil rights movement to try and push a message that is only tangentially related at best. That way you can get retards like >>109290340 to cry out in hyperbole that any criticism of it is equivalent to being a "Jim Crow supporter".
And now you can see with his new post >>109290483 he clearly has a lefty/pol/ bend that he's acting out on this board over this. I wonder just how many times he's posted about this nontroversy the last week.

>>109290696
It's really funny how these three vtubers are nothing alike

>>109290467
She's a self-hating autist with a genetic disease that won't see her make it past 40 and thinks governments shouldn't allow people with bad genes to have kids. This cynicism bleeds out whenever she attempts to have any serious opinion on anything, which her fans have tried to excuse by giving her the nickname Jitler. I think it's funny how zoomers have somehow unlearned the "don't talk about religion or politics ever with strangers" instinct that every generation prior to them has had.

>>109290555
>>109290565
It's obvious that the reason that Microsoft is pushing this now is to recruit child soldiers for their ICE protests.

>>109290647
>Third, "I hate political propaganda being shoved into my video games" is a very milktoast take. Phase saying that that is a bigoted/racist statement is a huge mistake on their park.
She said more than just that first part lol. "Disguised as education" and the part about taking sides are much harder for the company to look past. If the whole tweet was just about wanting to grill and play block game none of this would happen, but she's stupid and kept typing.

>>109290574
>>Several remarks stating they fought back behind the scenes
and they were told to shut the fuck up. the people who you think have power and matter in phase do not.

>>109290661
yeah and they get the same kinds of pushback that Jelly got.
Phase isn't used to getting any at all.
Hell, the only backlash they ever seem to have gotten is from their own divided fanbase. (See Pippa's fans hating concerts etc, Phase fans vs Lia/Lumi/Clara, etc)

>>109290698
How many war crimes did you think the allies committed in WW2? The US nuked two entire cities. You can't exactly take away the logic of that war just because a Sherman knocked over the fence of Fritz's cow pasture

>>109289581
The Minecraft devs aren't even the ones that do the education in Minecraft stuff, since they don't work scenarios and custom maps, it's typically third party companies hiring one or two guys.
I know because I did part of the neolithic revolution scenario.

>>109290647
She is under no obligation to download the DLC and since she's not American that seems like the perfect excuse for her to not talk about this at all. It's stupid to stick your nose in something and then start using the "I-I'm not even a burger!" line.

>>109290755
I thought it was the left who played dumb?

>>109290891
Well you are right now

>>109290822
But you'd be crying if they made a dlc about how america helped the world. Curious

>>109290879
John Lewis was a pretty big deal in the Civil Rights Movement.
Do chuds just not read any pre-Trump history?

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>>109290719
Lmao nice try schizo. Now let's see how you'll contort after being confronted with the reality that there's actually more than one person that thinks you're dumb.

>>109289823
Jelly didn't know who the people were or that Minecraft has these scenarios about history and sciences. She assumed it was an actual core update or DLC and in that fog of war reacted too harshly to soft ass political figures like Malala and Rosa Parks.

It was never about keeping politics out of vtubing.

>>109290949
The point is they don't want people to look at the lives of so called other "social justice" leaders because many engaged in reprehensible acts disconnected from any civil rights movements.

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>>109291052
That excuse would have worked if she hadn't later said she did it on purpose to rage bait people, which is basically saying she wanted it to be perceived as racist.

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>>109290706
The Civil Rights movement was absolutely about forcing white people at gunpoint to allow non-white people into their communities and neighborhoods. And it, of course, even that wasn't "equal" enough and is now the justification for all the communist DEI nonsense that followed it.

>>109291160
and this is why Phase Connect has finally made another stand that they dont want people like you in thier community.

>>109290189
Not really the case at all. The examples are stuff like marching, not going to the back of the bus and saying to everyone it was very mean to get shot in head for going to school.

>>109291133
On Twitter, no less than 50% of those on the right wing are Indians and Pakistanis, with the occasional Mexican.

>>109291160
>White “people” need to be FORCED to not be evil
This picture isn’t taught in schools for the reason you think it is pal. Congratulations on exposing yourself.

>>109291160
>Oh no they allowed these black kids to go to school, the horror.
And you guys wonder why the company had to make the post.

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>>109291160
i think you should leave vtubing, peko

>>109291132
>DEY WUZ NO ANGELS
this is so retarded

>>109291160
You will live in the ghetto and you will pretend to like it.

>>109290522
The racist part of the response was aimed at (you) not Jelly

>>109287202
Wait is that stuttering craig? jesus christ man. Dude must be hard up to resort to such a bottom-of-the-barrel content farming strategy after being the face of screw attack.

>>109291258
Would you afford the same excuse for your political enemies of today that you're seething over ITT?

>>109291160
I don’t see the issue. They should’ve just complied bro.

>>109291261
I've spent more hours watching Jelly than you, which is how I know that she's retarded.

>>109290924
Completely imaginary scenario you made up in your head.

>>109291361
My condolences.

>Jelly: maybe we should not put politics in blockgame
>Phase: AAAA *deletes her tweets* We apologize for her statements we are not bigots or racists please understand. *bows* We love Nelson Mandela and Rosa Parks. Black lives matter.

>>109291410
It's a shame Jelly didn't think: maybe we should not put politics in our tweets from our copro accounts

Idk why this history lesson is even worth arguing over when minecraft proudly say on their website that they give millions to BLM and the NAACP. No one in phase actually gives a fuck about it they've enjoyed playing minecraft in the past and will continue to do so in the future. Everyone just wants to be performatively outraged over whatever their algo serves them up.

>>109291137
I know she wanted to bait but I don't think she wanted it to go that far. Now she is kinda screwed because I don't think she will ever be as radical as her audience expects her to be.

>>109291323
I'm not a liberal so I don't base my politics on the inherent virtuous nature of whoever is speaking. So yes I don't give a fuck if my political enemy had a traffic ticket 20 years ago.
My heroes are Vladimir Lenin, Mao Zedong, Joe Slovo, and Ho Chi Minh, and none of them were saints or depicted as such, but all of them had great contributions to humanity.

>>109291160
Shouldn't have sent the soldiers so Americans would look even more satanic killing random kids

>>109291410
Interesting scenario you managed to schizo up, here’s actually happened
>Jelly: History is propaganda (On an account that isn’t her own)
>Phase: Are you retarded?

>>109291445
Trying too hard.

>>109291410
screw it man ToT i think pushing politics in my vtubing is disgusting. especially when its disguised as 'engagement bait'

let me watch my stupid anime girls without having to engage or associate with any of your stupid political garbage that i literally do not care about

Clara lost. Chud Connect wins again.

>>109291498
sorry you played your card poorly thinking you were arguing with a normalfag.

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>>109291160

>>109291506
Still trying to put the horse back in the barn?
It's much, much too late for that >>109291160

>>109291160
Fucking hilarious that you use forcing at gunpoint here, considering that is how segregation was often enforced.

>>109291323
Yes of course. It's the reason why I don't particularly care about the trump administration and have more concerns about Musk and his machine god project. People saying mean things and not being perfect shouldn't take away from what they objectively do, politics and emotion shouldn't mix.

>>109291493
Framing criminals as heroes for the purposes of indoctrinating children into future soldiers for communism is indeed propaganda.

>>109285666
Shut up nigger.

>>109291569
oh you're -actually- a tourist

>>109291541
No I knew I was arguing with a retard and you just clarified which kind of retard you are. You can go back to /pol/ or lefty/pol/ to whine about MAGAtards instead of the vtuber board.

>>109291160
Serious question. Why didn't blacks just teach their own kids. Why was it anyone else's responsibility to do so?
Though I will admit the irony of blacks of the past era pushing to go to school only for their descendants of the modern era to avoid going at all. The generational difference in priorities is real.

>>109291650
Ah I see who you are. Want a fun fact?
Zimbabwe's stats are all better today than they were during Rodhesia's peak.

>>109291679
Oops sorry i popped off too quick there. My bad and i delete, entirely my fault. I see your point

>>109285666
>not wanting politics in minecraft means you're a racist bigot
yawn

>Jelly claims she doesn't want politics in her hobby
>Joins phase connect
?
...?
Huh?
The only surprising thing here is why she wasnt terminated earlier

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You all know that Gandhi was and Indian nationalist, right? He helped the movement that led to deporting the whites from India.
Do none of you not have a problem with Microsoft promoting an ethnic nationalist?

>>109291774
Why were white people in India? Did they have a reason to be there?

>>109291739
I have no idea about the history of Burger States, but if they were charged the same taxes as white people, it makes sense that they would want access to the public services they are paying for.

>>109285679
I like all the leftists pretending that they haven't been seething at Pippa exactly like this for years.

>>109291774
All of those were monsters. Except the Malala chick I guess.
But she was involved in a local dispute in a Muslim shithole, hardly relevant to the world at large.

>>109291739
it shouldn't be anybody's responsibility to resuscitate you after I get done rapin dat ass

>>109291739
Typically because those schools were distant and buses were limited. Often done as a plot to force a family to sell a home in a rush for a smaller price.

>>109291797
A bunch of British people lived there, lots of them were born in India and lived there their whole life before they were suddenly deported to Britain, where they had never even been before.

>>109291856
damn that's crazy. so you reject mass deportations?

>>109291774
I am against mass immigration in general, but also against colonialism. In fact I think these opinions are linked. I don't Europe to be India and I don't want India to be Europe.

>>109291800
Fair assessment. Makes sense.

>>109291849
I'm confused a little. Who is selling the house in a rush for cheap and why?

no one should ever apologize to leftists

>>109291826
Rosa Parks nuked Lithuania and nobody cares, it's sickening.

>>109291826
The US spent 20 years in Afghanistan after a terrorist attack in NY killed 3000 people, remind me if the Taliban that shot Malala have any relation to all that.
>hardly relevant to the world at large
>hardly relevant to the world at large
>hardly relevant to the world at large
Let me guess, you get your news from Asmongold

>>109291160
>a bunch of seething replies but not a single counterargument
Trvke spotted

>>109291744
Not that anon but what stats are you referring to? I would like to check.

>>109291233
They had schools. Access to white people is not a human right.

>>109291739
Ask yourself why poor whites just don't teach their own kids instead of trying to get them into good schools and universities with rich whites.

>>109291901
Often in racial conflicts, one of the main elements was land control. Not exclusively a white thing a lot of it was done against whites like in modern day south africa.
But basically people involved in land development or farming stoke racial tensions to seize the land of other people for a cheap price. So they would often influence municipal politics to fuck over other people and buy off the land.
Want an example of it with a race of people you are likely not racist against? The Japanese in California. Lots of big farmers and real state companies pushed for them to be expelled during WW2 and proceeded to either buy off their land and chops for cheap as they were being sent to camps or outright invade it once they were vacated. They also pushed for the same to be done to Koreans and the Chinese but public sentiment didn't allow it and really showcases how it was all about seizing a lot of land and property for cheap.

>>109291445
You can't be this retarded...
Oh wait no, you actually can. Hope you'll end up as a random immigrant casualty but I'll doubt since you never leave your home

What's wrong with being racist?

>>109292119
>What's wrong with being racist?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

>>109292119
It is frowned upon for white people to be tribalist.

>>109285679
>>109287202
Ban all drama/pol/fags.

>>109291887
Nope, if anything this proves that deporting non-whites from white countries can work out just fine and be totally humane.
I'm fine with Gandhi being promoted, so long as the people promoting him can accept that whites have the right to ethnic nationalism as well.
This is the proper solution, not Jim Crow and certainly not the Civil Rights Act.
America can take in all the white South Africans and give away all it's blacks to South Africa, two problems solved, two race wars prevented.

>>109291637
Consider yourself in the silent minority(majority?) that share that stance then.

>>109292064
Ah so it was essentially exacerbating already existing issues for financial gain like how rich cunts are politically dividing us against each other into further extremes to have us fight each other out of necessity so that we don't pay attention to them pulling their shit.
I think I got it. Feel free to correct me if I haven't.

>>109292040
Through money or grades. They don't tell ivy leagues that it's their moral responsibility to take their kids.

>>109292182
>whites have the right to ethnic nationalism as well.
Of course they do, but America isn't a white country since white people are not native to the continent. Same for Canada, South Africa, and Australia. Europe belongs to whites and they can do whatever nationalism they want there.

>>109292182
I have a good idea. The whites can choose if they want to live together, or have mass deportations. Then everyone else can choose who goes where. Seems like the fairest thing, right?

>>109292119
Phase Connect girls are not even white.

>>109286593
his zionist overlords forced his hands

>>109291739
>why is it the government's responsibility to provide education to its population
Because when they don't, less than 20% of the population can even read and write, and this is bad for your country's ability to assert itself on the world stage. This is one of the reasons why India is a geopolitical laughingstock despite having the population of China. In America, states have a lot of rights, including the right to educate their citizens, and it turns out that when the government of a state thinks that certain groups are subhuman and is upset that they can't own them as slaves anymore, they don't get very good education, blacks were around 10x more illiterate than whites before the Civil Rights movement, and the federal government has to intervene.

>>109292148
Without reciprocity this is pointless at best, suicidal at worst. Racism is recognizing patterns that break the golden rule.

>>109291811
brother I'm not to the right of mao and I love pippa. don't you feel like you're devaluating your politics when you try to mix them with the anime girls?

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>>109285666
Kneel or get oneguy'd

What people aren't giving Phase enough credit for is that she wasn't fired on the spot for her comments that would have any talent from Hololive or Nijisanji terminated. Fishman is a true Confucian patriarch, guiding these silly women. Hopefully this will be a good learning experience for young Jelly and she'll figure out how to be edgy without being cringe.

>>109292287
Okay so based on my understanding. You educate everyone to increase relative global value. That doesn't really explain why you wouldn't just make more black schools then though. If there is a market for black people wanting educated then logic would dictate to build more schools, yeah?

>>109292225
>america is just a bunch of soil
America is a country created and built by white people, based on thousands of years of white culture, philosophy, science, infrastructure, technology, law, economy and ideals. It is 100% theirs.

>>109292417
>It is 100% theirs.
says who?

>>109292288
You're going to burn in a lake of fire for all eternity when you die, but enjoy the wild ride while it lasts

>>109292429
Anyone who understands what a country is.

>>109292417
It's a genocidal slave colony that learned to sell cars and launder money through the stock market, you don't even have your own native language. Why do you think the whole world looks at you in disgust right now

>>109292429
Not that anon but that's a poor counterargument. You wouldn't say India isn't Indian in spite of the fact they weren't technically the OGs there.

>>109292432
At least I'll die of old age instead of getting stabbed by an invader for being nice to them.

>>109292477
I dunno about you but as a foreigner I think America is the business. They've pretty much single handedly provided the most progress on all fronts over their 250 year life span and vastly increased the life quality of the entire world.
I appreciate what America has contributed to the world.

>>109292375
you might even call it a "lesson in good trouble"

>>109292526
I'm pretty sure self-defense isn't racist. Maybe stop going to /pol/ and your brainfog will clear up one day

>>109292375
They want to be angry, they can't even notice that the company is going very light on her. What most of these "fans" is an environment where the vtubers hold no responsibility and accountability and never have to follow any rules whatsoever. Unless they don't like them, in which case they absolutely must step in line and never do anything they don't personally like.

>>109292477
English is the native language, since it was English speakers who brought all the things I said with them when they traveled west. Every country on earth was established through conquest. You can hate America all you want, but it's a white country.

>>109292571
I am practicing self defense through pattern recognition. You're practicing suicidal altruism while your pet browns laugh at you.

>>109292601
I'm pretty sure if we applied 1776 standard of whiteness where groups like Jews, Irish, and Italians are excluded, America hasn't been a white country for decades now.

>Every country on earth was established through conquest.
>Hold on wait no you can't conquer us in return no no that's against the rules

>>109292556
Technologically and financially they're a powerhouse of market capitalism and progress, and during their inception they were a beacon of freedom and liberation to the whole world. The problem is their spiritual decay, which is a lot harder to address. So yes you're right. My nuanced take is very different, fair to say I'll concede that to you. But it has its darker side of history too.

>>109292647
Okay, we'll include Italians and Irish among people who built America. That still excludes browns.

>>109292643
Self-defense is when you defend youself, it requires act or intent. Making up a sham pretext to abuse a minority without consideration for individual agency is just oppression. Big difference.

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>>109292493
>they weren't technically the OGs there.
India's society and culture is intrinsically tied to the people that have lived there throughout its history. This is why even today India is a nation with wide cultural and ethnic diversity and the "Indian" national identity is not just a single race but dozens of different ethnic groups united under a single flag.

The United States is the same. It is not just a nation of White people but a nation of Native Americans, Blacks, Latinos, and others. The nation's culture and history is based on the contributions of all these groups, often in the face of oppression from Europeans.

So if you don't have the "nativist" argument because white people are not native to the continent, and you don't have the "cultural" argument because America's culture is rap music, cowboys, and Taco Bell, then what basis is there for America being a white country? There's already plenty of white countries in the world in Europe. Just go there for your white ethnostate. Leave my home if you hate it here so much.

Vtubers

>>109292038
No but it is a right to be able to have access to your own government and blacks are Americans who deserved access to said schools.

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Why the fuck are you not on /pol/. It's clearly the wrong board for this. Get out

>>109292789
Phasepol board, we won. Hololive lost

>>109292789
Niggers, troons and leftists out of my hobby NOW

>>109292665
And this spiritual decay has slowly been going on since the 60's with the hippy bullshit. The Civil Rights Act was a Trojan horse that slipped in a "no discrimination against foreigners" clause.
The old immigration policy was "free white persons of good moral character" the new one became "whoever will work for the cheapest, regardless of moral character". It's obvious in hindsight why America has decayed to the point it has now.

>>109292722
>you have to wait until the migrant throws acid in your face before you start avoiding them
Good advice. I didn't make up the patterns, I observed them. The golden rule is white hubris when applied to savages. Bet you think pitbulls deserve your unconditional love too.

>>109292711
>we'll just include non-whites as whites
Non non, anon. Then you have to contend with the cognitive dissonance of 20% of the country being black at its inception. Might as well count niggas as white, eh? Interestingly enough, this number is lower than the current 15%. Black replacement, perhaps?

>>109292856
will never not be funny that phase has a trained ballerina and concert violinist who are genmates with the grossest vtuber alive

>>109291410
>Rosa Parks
wait what's wrong with rosa parks of all people

do you think phase connect recently lost a big advertising contract/collab because of how incredibly not advertiser friendly their streamers are?
it's the only explanation for them starting to actually care about what they say, right? being retards on social media pretty much made them.

>>109292789
Half the board is politics right now, this is why EN was a mistake.

>>109292038
>it's okay to have taxation without representation, actually

>>109292891
any whore with phase in her channel name is tied for the grossest vtuber alive

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>>109290216
Who the fuck even knew Minecraft had a for kids education version? I didn't know it existed until this happened.

>>109292740
>India is Indian even though the Aryans weren't native to the land
>American culture is just memes and not all the white culture that established the country in the first place
The mental gymnastics here are hilarious.

>>109292857
But they are native European, so white. If you wanna get specific with countries instead of just "white," it still excludes any groups that fall under non-white.

>>109292410
>That doesn't really explain why you wouldn't just make more black schools then though.
School funding in the US has always been horrendous.
The right in particular has been trying to cut public education funding since its inception.
Schools that already exist are/were underfunded and simply making more with the same budget isn't going to work.

>>109293062
Children should be educated by their parents, not brainwashed woke DEI tranny lovers

>>109293055
>Music, arts, and cuisine are just "memes"
you're so retarded lol

>>109293055
They're white because we say so now. In 4 years when the libchads take over and throw every Republican in prison, progressives could finally stop being ashamed of being white and we could decide it's weird to call lightskins black when they're 3/4 white. Then the pendulum will swing and the next generation of racists such as yourself will come in allow lightskins to stay while their ancestors who hated pasta roll in their graves.

>>109293257
>Libchads
I know your kind is delusional and thinks men can be women but lol

>>109293153
>if I exclude all the white culture that established every facet of this country then it's not a white country

>>109293257
And even in your schizo fantasy, the browns you're talking about didn't create America.

>>109293119
Yes, that way you criminalize 4 million jobs and force half the population to not work. Thank you for your suggestion, Asmongold viewer. Right wingers are less educated too so in two generations they wouldn't be able to read the signs directing them to the voting booths either.

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>>109293339
>if I exclude all the white culture that established every facet of this country then it's not a white country
I never did that.
/pol/tards always get so ahead of themselves screeching at windmills

>>109293391
Leftytroon "educators" can work in prison camps, just like the communist countries they idolize, hopefully a few decades of hard labor will fix their defective brains

>>109293459
Then how is America not "white culture?" You're just contradicting yourself now.
>language, customs, architecture, value systems, dress, art and cooking from Europeans don't count because... rap music (in english)

>>109293308
>>109293504
Rent free. Hope you haven't posted your "brilliant thoughts" on a public social media account because you'll never be able find employment for the rest of your life in the next few years.
>>109293339
Well then maybe those whites weren't very smart if they just had all their slaves standing around doing nothing.

>>109293548
You'll be living rent free in the prison camps, troon

>>109292740
The basis for America being a white country is the people who founded it, The Articles of Confederation (showing the original intended direction of the country moving forward), the fact that it has historically been white nationalist from it's founding in 1776 and up until 1965 (almost 200 of it's 250 year life), and finally the fact that food, clothing, and art are not the sole indicators of a country's culture and are something other cultures often adopt into their own.
You can find rap, cowboy hats, and Taco Bell in tons of countries, that doesn't make the countries that have them American and it doesn't mean that the countries that listen to rap owe American blacks citizenship for their country.

Can the troony twitter tourists who are here explain how Pippa; who is a registered Democrat, voted for Biden, wears rainbow pride merch, and supported the Black Lives Matters movement is a Nazi?

>>109293595
>historically been white nationalist from it's founding in 1776 and up until 1965
I think you're missing a pretty key event that happened about a hundred years after the founding saar.
>>109293607
Pippa hasn't been a chud for at least the last two years. And soon Jelly won't be either.

>>109285666
It’s pretty how the consensus amongst vtuber fans up until this incident was “keep politics out of my hobby” and ubiquitously agreed upon when vtubing was the hobby in question but now that a vtuber has said “keep politics out of my hobby” and it’s about video games suddenly this sentiment is a problem. Really makes me think.

>>109293548
Jewish slavers weren't all that smart, yeah. But a country and its culture aren't defined by who picks the cotton.

>>109293645
>missed a key event about a hundred years later
You know Jim Crow laws followed the Emancipation Proclamation almost immediately, right?

>>109293645
A bunch of jews attacked the south over taxes and federal authority under the pretense of emancipation.

>>109293646
The people who want to keep politics out of the hobby aren't watching Phase Connect, they're watching Hololive.

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>>109293527
Other people contributed to America's culture, not just Whites, so it is not a White country. It is a country of White, Black, Latino, Native, Asian, Arab, etc people working together.
You are obsessed with this fantasy that America was built by white people alone, despite history proving otherwise. Even the railways that fueled westward expansion were built by Chinese immigrants, not solely white people.

I kinda don't know why I'm bothering since this fantasy of countries being race-based is a bit of a joke to anyone educated in nationalism or national identity. It's just a momentary delusion of a group that have no basis in theory or history. Even 20th century fascists thought race was a retarded concept to base your national identity around.

>>109289550
Twitter is ideologically much more balanced than it was before. It only feels right-wing to you because you're used to your ideology being artificially propped up by draconian moderation.

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>>109285679
Proctor only deserves one thing. Just remember that he made a 400+ page thread dedicated to seething about Clara.

>>109293809
So is Nigeria a white country because white people gave them their infrastructure, legal system, education, English language, fashion, Christianity, indoor plumbing, etc? You people are fucking retards.

>>109293645
pippa has never been a chud bro

>>109293884
You still don't understand, or seemingly don't want to understand because your ideology is interfering with your perception of reality.

What is a White Country?

>>109293918
Answer my question. If america isn't a white country, then nigeria isn't a black country, right?

>>109286204
Hmmm at the same time you have no issue when the left does it. How can I a right winger be expected to enjoy a para social relationship with a vtuber if they are posting things like fuck ice and my body my choice?

its very telling that you people hyper focuse on the right wing culture war then ignore left wing culture war. When leftist vtubers make statements its just normal or personal expression. When right wing vtubers make statements, its culture war and grifting.


Why the fuck can't I have a nazi oshii?

>>109293936
What is black? Nigeria is a Nigerian country.

>>109289378
>its ok to joke about racism and be edgy
>its not ok to not wish for political propaganda in media
huh?

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>>109293809
Because multiculturalism inevitably leads to Balkanization. A great number of the Chinese immigrants have not become a part of America, instead choosing to segregate themselves. They have little Chinatowns and they're even putting fucking biolabs in some of them.
I like America and I have zero intention of letting it turn into something like India, Egypt, Rome, Babylon, ect. just because I might be called racist if I don't let it happen.

>>109293947
Just watch Hololive brother

>>109293954
I don't get it. You said yourself "there are plenty of white countries in Europe." So does racial culture exist or not?

>>109290340
Using the non violent MLK to promote violent protests and sabatoge is not acceptable. You know this is exactly what they are doing. If MLK wasn't actually a glownigger operative that fucked prostitutes, was probably involved in the pre-epstein cult and a promoter of communism then he would agree that "good trouble" is not a good protest method or slogan. Same with Ghandi.

This could have been avoided if they just made the DLC about the based Malcolm X instead.

>>109291445
>>109291541
The communist that supports mass murderers also supports civil rights

Hmmmmm really makes me think. Also this is one of the most useful idiot normalfag takes i've read. You're not special for being a communist, every woman aged 20-25 is basically a communist.

>>109291493
>history
The issue is its not real history, its political history that they are attempting to tie into the current leftist narrative of the world. The best part is this whole thing came out the same exact day multiple videos of teachers forcing their students to go protest ice. But of course you view this as a good thing because you are just as brainwashed.

So no, it wasn't racist. It was a completely valid perspective. If I taught a class of 1980's history about heros like Donald Trump and Reagan you'd be equally pissed.

What is wrong with racism and hatred? And why is Phase using that made up word used only by leftists again people they don't like?

>>109291347
They did comply though, hence none of them were shot otherwise they would have been shot and you faggot leftists would brag about the event to this day.

>>109293831
It feels right wing because Elon spent 250 million dollars to get Trump elected.

>>109293841
that's how you know who to root for. Literally ANYONE that isn't that fucking shitbag proctor

>>109294093
My point was simply using Europe as an example that if you believe in race theory then you should go to Europe where 90% of cultural contributions came from "white" Europeans and widespread immigration is more of a recent trend. Basing your ideology on America being a "white" country is like the retards who insist /vt/ is a "Hololive board" completely unironically.

America was not founded on racial theory but nationalist, nativist theory. The European immigrants did not see themselves as Europeans but as Americans constructing a new nation outside of Europe's cultural sphere. The Monroe Doctrine itself literally put America at odds with European global powers to declare America as a separate entity not tied to Europe, its culture, or its politics. When immigrants came to the US in the 19th and 20th centuries they were doing so under the explicit goal of becoming Americans and contributing to the American nation regardless of where they came from. America is not a nation based on White Nationalism but simply Nationalism.

Morons that only started paying attention to politics in the last 10 years have no idea how to conceptualize a Nation without dumbing it down to skin color or "where your parents came from", but this is not at all how nations have operated throughout history. Even going back to the Romans citizenship was based on public service, loyalty, and assimilation rather than some nonsense like "race".

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>>109292040
Ignorant fucking retards. Public schools, especially in the south only started getting built after the civil war. It was quit literally a means to try and brainwash children against slavery but was also meant to help southerners find a place in the new economy now that their entire economy was deemed illegal.
The funny thing is they did build many many schools for blacks as well for the same reason. However, they strangely performed worse for some unknowable reason. Probably racism, just like today.