>>109289576
I just don't understand the level of insanity these fans go to when they find out her PL

She should have stayed in kawaii and not get harassed like her ex genmates

Densetsu gen 2 together with Mio.
The 3rd one is yet to be revealed.

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>>109289658
400 pages and counting desu

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>>109289576
You're a good man OP.
Total anti death. Kill them all.

>>109289576
Phase might not have put out a formal statement, but they clamped down hard on the harassment and started banning people left and right in their official channels. Plus, talents went on a blocking spree. Clara would have been fine if only she stayed off Xitter, and contrary to popular opinion, she had Phase management's fully support.

With this context in mind, it doesn't make a lot of sense for her to leave which is very suspicious.

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>>109289887
Now you're getting it!

>>109289887
They know her face and RM. The physical security risk isn't imaginary either, and it's a lot harder to mitigate.

>>109289887
It makes sense when you know she's been pretty much checked out the last year.

>>109292033
She checked out of Phase after the doxx blew up.

But she enjoys vtubing too much to abandon it entirely.

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>>109289576
This should be the best example as to why Proctor and his dox site should be banned from everything to do with vtubing.

>>109293903
>Proctor and his dox site
The heroes we sneed but don't deserve.

>>109293903
They will be Phase's downfall and it will be well deserved.

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>>109289789
>calling for violence against people you disagree with
kek like oshi like fanbase i guess

What are some good Beryl or Hana Flores streams?

>>109297111
The Bully streams from Hana Flores are pretty fun, and so are her watchalongs with Reina for that youtube cartoon.

With Beryl, she had some kino goth GF streams and karaokes. Her American truck ones were fun too because she found she could break the speed limit by using the shoulder. She had a few English learning streams with her Star Ring members but I'm not sure if they're in the archive.

She's not going to Holo no matter how much you beg, trannybro, she has no redeeming qualities of her own, she's a mid singer, her streams are boring, she's not charismatic whatsoever, she's a flake, and she's a terminally online marxist retard that would just jeopardize Holo's image for no reason
>>109289744
This might be possible to an extent but she's too small potatoes for them I think, she was already in 3 view territory in phese

>>109299834
I'd love to grudgepost you, but honestly, who the fuck knows what's next for her.

>>109289744
I will become Minto's strongest schizoest soldier if this happens.

>>109292446
And paoaroach said he's going to shit on her every time she comes back to the internet so the hate mob is going to follow her forever

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>doxxed
She left all her old stuff up so that if people wanted to see all the heinous political hottakes she had, they would. And that had to be deliberate- she wanted people to know she supports literally euthanizing babies after they're born because feminism. She is not a good person, literally the definition of 'if evil, why hot' except she's not hot either. At any point in time she could have just privated everything and kept her opinions (really, the insane opinions of FDS and other extremist websites for femcels seething that chad did not pick them) and she chose to keep it up because she craves the confrontation and the attention that comes with it.

>>109302839
Who needs privacy when you have TVA digging up and harassing your family on social media kek

Your lies about what she said are exactly the reason why Phase is the doxxtard company that nobody is going to take seriously from now on.

>>109289744
Mint is not taking Clara she has no idea who she even is

>>109303262
>to take seriously
Why do 80 IQ tards post stupid shit like this. Who are you? Bill "gave my wife an STD after raping too much cunny" Gates? No one cares what you take seriously, retard, you're irrelevant.

>>109303341
Pot calls kettle black.

>>109289576
she will try again as an indie, and the TVA people will just harass her until she leaves forever.

She is simply not cut out for vtubing. She has crashed out of 3-4 agencies in 5 years and been thru how many personas. She cannot be saved. An incredible waste of singing talent. All she would have had to do was be reasonable, and Phase would have done 3d concerts with her,. But she didnt want that. She rather wanted to spazz out on alts and never work conventions for Phase.

i mean at a certain point how many chances does a talent need to realize this thing isnt for them? she has wasted all of her chances she has gotten in vtubing

>>109303537
>wasted
Debatable.
Kawaii never really did anything of note. Star Ring went under for being unable to escape being 2views. Phase is crawling with doxxroaches who harassed her nonstop.

She hasn't found the right fit IMO

>>109303435
Wasnt her main sin that she barely streamed too?

>>109303651
She streamed fine when she was active. The real problem was that her long hiatus at Phase never really ended.

>>109303642
She unquestionably wasted her chance in Phase Connect.
it's like she was playing a game of chicken. She knew what she believed, but singed on anyways. Then she antagonized the darkest brown parts of the fan base knowing they were watching.

There is a timeline she could have been doing a 3D live this week Phase is doing a concert heck a girl who debuted right before Clara is in that 3D live. What did Runie do right that Clara didn't that she was able to make the most of her time in Phase?
There are girls that have been doxxed by their fanbase just like her, but they stuck with it. There are girls that have the same political views as her, but they stay in their lane you dont see them collabing with Pippa and inviting themselves onto Pippa's stream to talk about Amber Heard.

>>109303875
clara was afraid of the grind. she wanted everything and she wanted it now. everything about her presentation was just uncanny. she took the bunny ears from pippa, she took lia's oshi mark, hell she even took the yellow away from yellow woman. she streamed in en instead of jp, she put herself in prime spots to get endless pippa raids, then tried to be buddy-buddy with pippa because she was the top dog in the company and she knew it would get her further faster
she could have had it all, too, everybody welcomed her and loved her so much initially, but then she started getting in her own way. if she just didn't poke the hornets nest and put a target on her back.

>>109303875
>There are girls that have the same political views as her, but they stay in their lane you dont see them collabing with Pippa and inviting themselves onto Pippa's stream to talk about Amber Heard.
She can and should be allowed to post personal shit on her personal account. It's not her fault she has an entire group of browns eternally angry she's not le heckin' based and made up lies because they wanted her gone.

Also, Pippa was the one who brought up Amber Heard.
As far as I am aware, Clara has never actually brought up politics in her streams.

>>109304036
>clara was afraid of the grind
Her solo 3D streams with a model she streamed herself, solo musical that she edited herself, solo covers that she put together herself really shows that you didn't really watch her and that you're pulling the narrative right out of TVA's handbook to diminish her contributions to the company.

>muh JP in EN
You're going to ignore how she didn't have a JP fanbase after the first week? TVA narrative.

>>109289576
Oh is this Clara? I know literally nothing about her or her PL but since so many crybabies on here kvetch about even the most mild right wing comments, I will now harass her in return

>>109304485
what were her contributions to the company genuinely?
those vr streams are streams you can try an put those up on a pedestal, but they are just streams that are not that important to the company.

when it came time for phase to go to their first jp con, where was clara? rie had to take her spot. this is such a huge what the fuck is wrong with clara moment and how she was just not bought into phase connect and does not care to put the work in for her corpo obligations.
when phase did 2d concert at anyc this year, where was clara? she was abotu to go on a vacation she never officially returned from.
when she finally got to do the club concert in october, where was clara leading up to it? she was nowhere to be found not promoting it.

>>109304485
>It's not her fault
She knew what she was doing and you are being dishonest to claim otherwise. She knew she was being watched and was trying to get a reaction.
Should she be allowed to do that? Of course she should. Just like she is allowed to not renew her contract because she thought it was good idea to antagonize a couple of pests. She traded potentially being a center piece of Phase's idol shit for leaving because she got harrassed by pests she intentionally antagonized. She cut off her nose to spite her face. She just couldn't help herself.

>>109304696
She was in Japan and Europe? I'm not sure how Phase concerts work but she had plenty of appearances at conventions and used Live2D at concerts. You're being disingenuous if you're cherry picking a few commitments she might or might have had the opportunity to do so.

>>109304899
I'm not going to disagree with you there. It was dumb to keep posting political shit because she did know for sure that TVA was listening, but that is her right. Whether or not it's dumb doesn't make the doxxing and harassment she received from a bunch of browns justified. Predictable? Maybe, but not justified.

>>109305292
>she was in Japan and Europe?
So what?
When your job needs you, go do your job if you can. ESPECIALLY when you and your fans claim "performing is my dream uwu" well you would rather travel and not be available than perform.
Runie and Lia traveled to Japan and missed thanksgiving with their families to record concerts. That is sacrifice some girls make when something means to name. Phase never meant that much to Clara.

>>109305421
>Phase never meant that much to Clara.
I disagree, she regularly took part in various events and streams and took the initiative to make something like a podcast. Trying to say she wasn't committed because she didn't take part in a handful of events that she might or might not have been selected for, isn't really a good argument. She really genuinely tried before the doxxing drama.

>>109305541
sorry anon missing the jp con was a huge red flag and it was before the retard kirk nonsense. she was supposed to be the big jp talent, and she couldn't even bother to do the con.
talents sacrifice in order to make shots when their company needs them. phase needed her for that, and she thought going on vacation was more important. the fact that she was not committed to phase probably justifies why they never really trusted her to do things when you have other girls who drop everything when they get the honor to perform. so yeah, compared to people like lumi, lia, runie, uruka she was not committed to the group

that's great she tried with ka-ching, but vtubers should not be judged on their first year when everything is new and exciting and your motivated. how are you in year 2? year 3? year 4? is the fire there? do you still care about the group? etc

>>109305743
Being less committed/motivated than other girls isn't the same argument as not being committed at all.

She tried to make it work and the phase fanbase was too toxic for her to continue. That's what really matters in the end. If you're not getting the support you need from the corpo's fans, and everyone turns a blind eye, then there's not much left to do.

>>109305875
missing comiket was before charlie kirk
clara was already checked out of phase connect

>>109303341
Btfo anon
The fact there's 400+ pages of TVA means her antis are malicious, so lying comes with the territory. It's like 1+1=2

>>109303875
Phase is a dumpster fire, especially for her. Are you blind? And it's not like she could have predicted the 2024 election. It's warped the cultural landscape.

>>109306297
if you keep flunking out of corpos and it is always the corpos fault while other girls thrive and achieve, it is a you problem

>>109305875
It’s not so much that as it also is that Phase Connect just has its limitations. Yes it’s grown quite a lot over the years, but you’ll still run into a metaphorical wall and you will need to grind to cultivate your own fanbase because if Nitya’s Gen is any indication, the vtuber novelty is mostly lost.

>>109306297
Sorry but what the fuck does some polshit "election" have anything to do with her? Shes a white french canadian roastie. Her model isn't even loli so it's not like shed been suffering from potential anti-loli censorship from the conservacucks within US platforms or anything.

if she's not completely done with vtubing, i hope she comes back with a loli model and acts more like beryl

>>109307147
that is the hysterical thing between both the yabs: 2 foreign girls who should have no opinion on burger poltics putting their foots in their mouths about burger poltics.

they both should be known as musicla talents, but all either of them will be known for now is being poltical lolcows just on opposite ends of the spectrum

>>109306600
and none of that growth was thanks to clara, even with all the help she was given after debut

>>109299834
So what would prevent her from going to Hololive? Sounds exactly like a regular Holo to me.

>>109303316
Oh, you missed where they met in Japan and she refers to Clara like a cryptid?

>>109303875
The amount of esl in this post is peak.

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>>109309327
That was Vicky Roman.
When Densetsu was revealed, she also revealed that it has been Vicky all the time. She lives in Japan.

>>109309375
No you idiot she literally met Clara during a phase recording event. Kevin floats Mints bills every time she’s around so it gets brought up. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

>>109309414
oh, clara and mint are besties then

>>109309677
No, Mint just saw her, didn't even talk to her

She is a pretty good singer, way better than the other idol gaijin wannabes. But she is clearly not into streaming, probably why she haven’t get into niji or holo. no way she didn’t audition given her need for visa sponsorship.

>>109303642
This poster is a holobeggar in disguise

I would support a Beryl return

>>109310217
I don't think it's hololive either, but it's not impossible either. It could also be some vshojo adjacent group.

It's extremely suspicious that she's going to nuke her content route, considering her love of the character and especially UAP.
So maybe it's a contractual obligation? Just like she did with Star Ring, because she was debuting in Phase.

>>109314254
I hope someone makes a nice archive of her stuff at least

>>109314489
There's a sizeable fancord taking charge

>>109314489
I've downloaded the available karaoke, just need a place to dump it. Or maybe i should reup to youtube. 325GB

>>109314254
Only corpos make you delete your PL shit. Imagine the doxxfaggot meltdown if she got poached by hololive kek

>>109309327
No, I remember
>Oh I finally met Lia! she is so sweet and great! I love her!
>and Sakana. he is an asshole
>and Uruka. she is nice
>oh and I met Pippa...yeah
>and I think there was another Phase girl? Cara yeah I saw her for a couple seconds

>>109314254
I dont think it will work. The pests that chased her out of phase will follow her if she ever respawns and make her life hell there until she leaves

>>109289576
She is cute

>>109317795
>The pests that chased her out of phase will follow her if she ever respawns and make her life hell there until she leaves

That is what the corpo is for, to defend and protect the girls. And when Clara needed Phase most, they did nothing.

They caved in to antis, the same people who should be pushed back against. Their response to recent events has been disappointing to say the least and speaks very poorly on their ability to protect the rest of the girls should antis decide for whatever reason to go after anyone else.

>they would never go after [my oshi]
They would and will go after their own, all they care about is destroying anyone they disagree with.

>>109314254
She's deleting all her stuff because she wants to get away from vtubing all together.

>>109320406
Corpos can do very little in retards to online harassment. Even Cover just got one of their DMCA takedowns overturned of an anti-Miko video on Youtube. If even Cover can't defend one of their top JP talents, there's nothing any other vtuber corpo can do.

>>109320406
>That is what the corpo is for, to defend and protect the girls. And when Clara needed Phase most, they did nothing.
Brother what are they gonna do?
Sakana literally threatened legal action at KWF when they doxxed Lia back in 2021, and that just made it worse because it confirmed the dox was real and KWF called their bluff.

>>109320432
If she's exiting vtubing altogether, then why not keep the content up for her fans? She's done so whenever they let her. Not only that but she's essentially burning bridges with Phase by refusing to be a Phase citizen.

Even while she's stopped streaming, she still connects with and fulfills membership commitments every month she's been gone, giving PSD files for each skeb she's commissione to her members.

If she doesn't come back soon after her graduation on her indie or flesh account, there's a very, very good chance she's going corpo again.

>>109320432
Unless she has an actual entertainment industry job lined up she'll be back just like the rest of them. Nobody would willingly choose Walmart over streaming.

>>109310217
>>109314254
There's no way she passes the holoen vibe check.

>>109320640
>If she's exiting vtubing altogether, then why not keep the content up for her fans?
because I think she genuinely wishes she could erase ever being in Phase Connect from her memory and doesnt want anything left behind. I do no blame her it would take a very strong person to want to keep stuff up after she got bullied out by Pippa's fans.

Clara, if she could, would likely tell you she loved the girls in Phase and was treated great by the actual people there, but the stuff on the outside with the fanbase has soured her on all of it.

>>109320640
>there's a very, very good chance she's going corpo again.
>yay I get to be in the first wave of en small corpos! kawaii! lets see what happens!
>ok lets try Star Ring, lets see what happens!
>ok this time I got into a winner. Phase Connect is on the incline and are getting involved with concerts and music, lets see what happens!
this time surely
also this time the retard chud pests are just gonna forget about her and not attack her when they find her new persona. these animals have lives and are well behaved.

>>109320902
Pretty sure Sakana poached her from Star Ring because Star Ring was going under.
He wanted a singer but unfortunately he let the roach infestation in his corpo drive her away.

>>109320640
Because she wants to get away from all the harassment, and wants to delete anything anyone could use to continue harassing her.

It'll be great when Clara debuts under hololive and she can partake in real concerts.

>>109320687
>Nobody would willingly choose Walmart over streaming.
They would if they know they'd have an army of internet antis/trolls ready to harass them the moment they reappeared online.

>>109321151
There's little to no ammunition on her account, unless you browse twitter.

>>109321193
nah Clara will be lazy and go on vacation when it is time to record

>>109289576
She'd have been kicked out of 90% vtuber corpos for publicly being a proud swinger let alone making calls to murder people for politics

Fishman tried the "ignore tactic" on something way too fucked up to not blow up

>>109320694
Improbable but not impossible.
Unlike Twitter, they might not use Twitter gossip/anti campaigns as a metric to judge a person. They have plenty of experience with that.

That said, it's still improbable. I personally don't see it happening but then again, there's only so many places besides Phase that she can join.

>>109289576
She has a history of corpo hopping like crazy and there's very few places accepting people nowadays. She either revives Peari with an up to date model or she leaves.

>after having a disastrous run with Phase and going viral for the wrong reasons, people think she actually got poached by hololive and that is why she is leaving.
it's totally not because her contract expired and declined to renew her contract.

>>109321426
The timeline lines up for both to be correct, so who knows what the future holds.

I personally see her going back to her indie, where her fans/mods will clamp down hard on her streams.

>>109321426
She wants a work visa for Japan. It's the whole reason she joins JP corpos. She only joined Phase when they made a JP branch. So it makes sense that she'd want to join another JP company.

>>109321534
>>109321528
she can want to join hololive, just like i want to have sex with a super model. neither will happen.

>>109320640
>If she's exiting vtubing altogether, then why not keep the content up for her fans?
Maybe in order to keep stuff up, you need to take the Phase Citizen deal? I know one of the cop outs at the time when Yuri got fired as to why they nuked her stuff Sakana said "it would be unfair for us to make money on her content when she is not with us anymore, so we killed all of it."
Maybe their mental gymnastics is if you are a Citizen they feel ok making money off of the content?
I would be interested to see what happens when say, a more tenured and contributive talent ever graduates and not a Phase Citizen. Would he really nuke their channels and unperson them? Like so long as there is a Phase, it would be almost impossible for them to nuke someone like Pippa, Tenma, Lia or Uruka because they are so intwined in the fabric of the company and they have very high profile streams/company firsts on their channels that is a part of the history of the group.

>>109321706
I thought that was always the case? Either a full graduation with content nuke or phase citizen while keeping the content.
That's why I find it interesting she's burning bridges and nuking everything. If she's going indie and sheltering herself from the doxxtards, then it doesn't make a lot of sense to burn bridges even with the harassment because it will eventually die down and anyone left will get the banhammer on official channels

>>109321931
burning bridges to what?
I don't really think she is burning any bridges desu. do you think sakana or any talents are mad at clara?
they are probably sad it didn't work out after it started so strong, and sakana is likely disappointed this is how it had to be and regrets not trying to filter out the bad part of the fanbase sooner. if he would have taken a harder stance like in 2023, then clara is still in phase.

>>109322049
Burning bridges with everyone in Phase, including Airi and Pippa.

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>>109302839
Ironic that you post my oshi who has been in her chat and said the following to Clara who is also my oshi, I love my Vsigners. And for the record, I don't and no one should care at all from an entertainment standpoint and if she doesn't bring it to stream or as her corporate persona, you shouldn't bring it up either. Retards breaking that boundary don't deserve the time of day, there is nowhere on earth where doing said boundary breaking is an appropriate response to anything she has said and that includes her bad takes while yapping which didn't explicitly reference what you said.

>>109322116
why do people think pippa and clara are close? what is this illusion? is it because she sent her a guilt supa when she returned?

>>109321931
Oh for sure that is how they are presenting it, but I would like to see it challenged by having someone of note opt to graduate. like, if lia said she was graduating with no citizen deal, would he REALLY nuke the channel? He is saying goodbye to the the companies literal first debut, vtuber awards concert, the companies first 3d live where mint showed up, a pomu collab which is so rare etc this is evergreen content I would imagine the company would want to keep alive forever because it is important to them

>>109322184
Not only did they hang out plenty of times but they also talked to each other privately. That relationship, nor any of the ones she made in Phase with talents and management, are ones you throw away lightly.

>>109322294
they hung out on work trips. i'd pump the breaks on thinking they crafted some lifelong relationship because they ate at a company dinner a couple times in japan

>>109322351
Let's step back for a second. I'm not saying they're super close or whatever.

I'm saying they had a relationship as coworkers that doesn't make a lot of sense for her to abandon, with the alternative being that she keeps said relationship. That's all.

>>109322415
i don't think there would be any bad blood between clara and phase girls. this doesnt feel like a fuura yuri situation where she did something to hurt people she called her friends in phase, and they are taking shots at eachother years later on double secret alts

more likely it is just people will drift away like when school friends move away or co workers find new jobs. like i don't see her getting invited to company dinners in japan it just wouldn't be appropriate but who knows

>>109322271
Because #1 from the OP is the most likely and even though you can still find traces of her Vtubing career online here or there, you have to be dedicated enough to find it and it is not easy to do so which you might as well treat it as being gone. Once the channel disappears, her entire career gets to vanish so most of these people will eventually stop harassment if she isn't online because what they perceive as a wrong would be corrected in their eyes and they will eventually find much bigger fish to fry.
I don't see her coming back to Vtubing changing unless she can get into Hololive which has enough legal muscle and fan presence and decorum to protect her from what is happening because Phase Connect clearly can't especially with the fan stuff and that is not likely.

>>109322550
Meant to quote >>109321931

>>109289576
She was so sweet as beryl. I still miss her channel.

>>109322550
>legal muscle
what are they gonna do, anon?
she fucked around and played games with the most foul type of people. I understand why she thought it was a good idea because fuck those guys, but they are no life no job having motherfuckers that are going to pester her. this is a battle she will never win.
and there is nothing cover or the vtubergriftlawyer who says sue everybody but nothing ever happens or phase connect or anycolor can do about it

>>109322520
Exactly, and as Phase citizen, you're technically and unofficially still part of the company and can keep your account and model in some form.
Her discord account is almost definitely also getting nuked, so no more DMs.

There's a lot of ties being cut here besides the superficial nuking of her account.

Desu holoen management is full of woke, so her views might be a plus

>>109322658
i dont think her ties are that deep. no more deep than any other small corpo who leaves after 2 years.

and even saying she was there for 2 years is being generous because she has essentially been gone since july.

>>109322635
That's just to even have any kind of presence at all, and if she did return, she'll never be close to us fans ever again. It's just that there would be in bigger corpos enough of a degree of separation to let that happen and the corpo can take care of everything there given what they have done for their talents regarding similar situations. As a fan. t I don't think that is how she wants to do Vtubing if there is that much degree of separation but I could be wrong.
>>109322734
She was in the basement for a while when she was getting vetted and Phase Connect has some of the longest pre-debut periods out there. Not that long but enough that I can believe 2 years even with the hiatus.

what a smart girl does
>fuck they found my alts?
>I am gonna lay low for a long time or not post anything crazy
>goes on to have a fruitful career
what clara did
>oh, you found my alts?
>FUCK YOU FUCK DRUMPF FUCK CHARLIE KIRK FUCK PICKMES FUCK CONSERVATIVES
>wait why are they harassing me?! what did I do?!
>it sucks here I quit.

>>109289576
Does this girl even speak japanese? I saw that she was part of the JP group, but I don't see any japanese streams and all of her karaoke and covers are english songs. I checked her both PLs and I see nothing in japanese there either.

>>109322942
jelly is speedrunning the latter path

>>109322896
the basement thing is so overblown and is used by new talents to try and ingratiate themselves into the fanbase. it's tantamount to using sakana to make it seem like they are the cool kids, when the reality is sakana doenst have time for all but like 10 talents.
most talents dont mess with newer talents "in the basement" they are busy streaming and with their own gen projects.
reminder pippa didnt interact with gen2 for over a year and they had debuted while they were "in the basement." she then said that her first impression of clara when she joined the work server was she was rude and opinionated, and pippa didnt want to interact with her. only whne she went to japan for a work trip did she say she is not bad.

>>109322965
Yes, she does. Her first original song is entirely in Japanese.

>>109323129
Can you link me any streams where she is speaking japanese?

>>109323024
I'm not saying that they are fully coworkers and inside the talent circle when they are in pre-debut, it's more of a recognition that they get familiar with certain people and officially part of the company while doing so because they have signed the contract, moreso when it has been confirmed she has done stuff with JP with translation and etc. for the company alongside what rigging and stuff she could also do. It would be considered accurate to say her tenure is longer than she has been publicly part of the company as a talent because of that.

>>109322942
Imagine helping build Phase's future with your talent and hard work while you're terrorized into silence by its fanbase Are you joking?

>>109323230
Not that anon but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxkd_lJsNWY

>>109323454
Clara laid 0 (ZERO) bricks down in regards to building Phase

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>>109325120
Phasesister

>>109320602
They have to do something. Nothing is not an option when it comes to dealing with mentally ill schizos.

>>109325189
what bricks did she lay down to help build Phase Connect?
She came into the company when it was at its hottest, and squandered it.

>>109323230
For the first month she would repeat everything she said in both English and Japanese. Then she went to just English but would occasionally do JP only streams on Twitch. You could also watch the collabs she did with the other JPs.

>>109322633
If she had waited just a little longer the Beryl IP would be hers

>>109326237
I'm not saying she built Phase. I'm asking, would you put effort into a business that doesn't welcome you and won't appreciate you, but instead harasses you into 'knowing your place' while profiting for your work? I hope you wouldn't and I wouldn't ask anything different of her. She doesn't owe Phase her happiness, for their growth.

>>109329007
but that's not the way it always was for clara.
she was welcomed and embraced immediately. people had her pegged to be the standout of that entire en/jp gen3 wave and one of the potential faces of the company

>>109329111
Look at what you wrote.
>fuck they found my alts?
>I am gonna lay low for a long time or not post anything crazy
>goes on to have a fruitful career
She needs to accept being doxxed and intimidated into silence, and accept being in this position for the length of her career? She can't even post on her own private social media -- not the company's -- without Phase "fans" trying to ruin her life? And you think that's somehow acceptable?

>>109329250
>She needs to accept being doxxed and accept being in this position for the length of her career?
sadly, kinda? I mean the alternative was what she got: worse than nothing. she matched the spazz level of retarded man children, and she killed her career for it
>intimidated into silence
that is extreme. but yeah she wasn't silent. people heard her. that roach fucker and his slime viewers heard her loud and clear.

clara is not the only clara in phase. theres at least 1 other who shares her views, but they are smarter than her and know when their bread is buttered. at least for them, they can say it was worth it because they stayed around and achieved some things and became something.

>>109329250
>And you think that's somehow acceptable?
do you think it is acceptable for a girl to accept a job from a company where she knows she is getting paid by viewers she hates and knows their political views dont align with hers? She hates the chuds, but doesnt hate chud money. What do you think paid for her model and a tokyo ad campaign? Chud money did.
She is not one of Pippa's genmates who had no idea what Phase Connect was gonna turn into. How were they to know?
Clara knew exactly what she signed up for, and did it anyway.

>>109329445
>that is extreme
You have things like rape and death threats anon, those things can affect people. I understand what you're trying to say but I'd encourage you to see the other side. And as you said
>She needs to accept being doxxed and accept being in this position for the length of her career?
>sadly, kinda?
Some may choose to live like that but if not, the only real other option is to walk away. I respect that choice just as much.

>>109329564
Didn't some of those people go *intentionally* out of her way to doxx her private accounts and those of her family? You act like they don't bear any responsibility themselves and it's their right to simply insert themselves into her private life, not as an entertainer and without any thought to her as a person. Do you think that's ok?

>>109329630
when you lay with dogs, you're gonna get fleas.

>>109329564
More succinctly -- did she sign up to be doxxed and harassed?

>>109329674
seems so

>>109328821
I don't think she cared that about about her beryl persona.

>>109330811
does she care about anything as it relates to being a vtuber?

>>109330844
Numbers, this has to be obvious considering her other three incarnations that were abandoned once she realized they weren't going to grow fast, and a working visa for japan. If I remember correctly, that last part was the specific problem she had with StarRing.

>>109330811
Of course she did. Anyone claiming otherwise never watched her. In other words, you two fags. She graduated shortly after the news came out that Star Ring was closing but the news hadn't been made public.

With that said, her last graduation song as Beryl was one of the most beautiful things I've ever listened to.

>>109331481
I shivered. Damn.
Thanks anon

>>109289576
my final appraisal of Clara
>very very creative and great singer
>started hot and motivated
>seemed to fit in with a lot of the talents
>after 1st anniversary, her light began to dim
>collabs became scarce and she became distant
>she was completely checked out by the time summer came around even before kirk
even kirk never happened, we might have been at the same end road. I think she maybe would have stayed for another year, but what good would that have done?
sometimes you see a girl debut and not know what she is, and it takes a year or 2 to figure it out. she knew what she wanted to be immediately, so we might have seen the best of her up front because she started out great.

>>109322633
>>109331481 (Me)
For any Berylchads, I had to watch it again because fuck me, it always makes me cry like a little bitch when I listen to it. Such good memories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqJNppgB6iwA&t=10770

The timestamp takes you to her thanking her viewers for their patronage in her "maid cafe" streams where you could just enjoy herself. During one of her zatsus she elaborated: She wanted her streams to be a space where people can forget about their worries and real life troubles, the drama and bullshit.

It's pretty clear she still held that belief as an entertainer in Phase but unfortunately, Phase was not a place where you can do that. Hopefully, she continues to hosts such a space. It's what made me such an ardent fan of hers in the first place.

>>109305743
She got doxxed and was getting harassed for being a turbo-leftist way before the Kirk comment. Afterwards she started streaming less and less. It's obvious she as planning to leave, so why would she then turn up to the company's concert?

>>109332195
I agree. I think the more chill vibe suits her, I've only known her as Clara. I'll cross my fingers for her to find her peace.

>>109332195
>Phase was not a place where you can do that.
it is if you want it to be. some girls are trying very hard to change the perception. Clara leaving is a loss to their cause.

>>109331481
>She graduated shortly after the news came out that Star Ring was closing but the news hadn't been made public.
So... She decided to graduate knowing the company was closing in two months?

>>109332901
Yes. Presumably, Sakana had already made her an offer by then and she had no need for Beryl, likely because it cost her money to acquire the IP and because she already had another much more fleshed out indie vtuber model IP that suited her tastes better. How do I know Sakana made her the offer? He posted and donated in her chat during her graduation announcement.

There is one thing she really liked about Beryl IIRC:
Her body was Pear shaped. Big hips, flat chest, giant tail.
I was surprised she didn't use this same body type in Phase.