I like Miko. It really feels like she's getting the heat that Hololive deserves on her shoulders personally. Doesn't feel right
Damn that must suck
Does the punishment fit the crime?
>>109401085The punishment is still too light
>>109401030It isn't right, she's done nothing wrong.>>109401085No crimes have been committed.
they never deserved miko
>>109401000So all the chinks unsubscribed, where are the issue?
>>109401000>>109401030>>109401057>>109401085>>109401101retard
>>109401000W E E K L YH U M I L I A T I O NR I T U A L
>>109401000Nobody who actually watches her cares, so no harm done. She will continue to be the biggest vtuber out there regardless of whether you seethe about it or not
>>109401000
reminder that we are still way too kind to the nijiniggers. They need to be treated like the subhuman they are.
>>109401000noufagi kill your oshi and yourself
>>109401303It's not even about Pekora, by that logic the people who unsubbed from Miko would've turned into watching Peko and added her regular day CCVs Yet it didn't, and it keeps not adding.This is just chinks crashing out
the elira of hololive
>>109401000I don't have money left after buying the yearly 20k CCV plan. Someone has to take up the mantle and buy back those subscriptions.
>>109401222>>109401303>>109401415>>109401419retard
>>109401434holoseethe
Despite all my rage, I'm still just a 35p in a cage
>>109401000>>109401030>>109401101>>109401222>>109401303Imagine believing this "controversy"
>>109401000Hololive fans don't realize how much they'll miss Miko when she fucks off. I hope they feel retarded when they seeing the dude whose narratives they fell for is getting sued and is hiding all of his shit.
>>109401224lmao, biggest vtuber, right. cope
>>109401285brainwashed retard, rent free niji out of nowhere like always when they have absolutely nothing to do with the topic
>>109401583that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard, even for japs
>>109401654Oh yeah? Well get this. Today they are attacking Miko because she was violently ill and couldn't contact Sora about delaying their collab until 10 minutes after it was supposed to start. Isn't she just evil?
>>109401654How about getting kicked out of a corpo you have been in for years because of a baseball joke?
>>109401583Nonono, there's a more recent way more riduculous crashout from these chinkoids>Scheduled Sora-Miko collab>Miko fell ill, constant vomiting and shit, called Sora to tell her about it>Miko tweeted the collab has been cancelled>Chinkoids : "YOU LYING FUCK, HOW CAN YOU SUDDENLY CANCEL THE COLLAB JUST LIKE THAT?! YOU'RE JUST PRETENDING TO BE SICK WHILE IN REALITY YOU JUST WANT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO THE DAISENPAI">Another -10k subs from Miko>Sora tweeted about the phone call, immediately destroyed and embarrassed every Chinkoids who used her as a shield to attack miko>Chinkoids resort to spam tweets and threads (like this one) everywhere as a retaliation>You are here
>>109401793Wow I'm glad I avoid Japanese vtubers and their fans, that sounds crazy.
>>109401000Leeching Korone might not be enough at this point
they're just culling dead subs, guyslol
>>109401857yeh, stick to wuxia dramas, those suit you more!
>>109401225>>109401000Literally who
>>109401793>>109401857I think i'm done with vtubing. Too many simps. I'm glad it exists though. I hope all the simps in the world get distracted with vtubing and exist in a little bubble where they can argue over petty drama all day instead of giving women the right to vote.
>>109401793Sora's PR answer is so good antis don't have a way to anti her response.
>>109401000Maybe if you learn Japanese , you would how much an asshole she is
Why didn't she just apologize? It would have been much easier.
>>109402119Apologize for what?
>>109402119>DEMAND THIS>DEMAND THATWow, where have I seen this kind of behaviour before hmm
>>109402159Doesn't matter, just apologize
>>109402205That's retarded.
>>109402104damn, she is good. is she pr trained?
Anyway, Miko did apologize for causing worry and poor language/wording. If you want an apology to Green channel then go bug them about it, it's not up to you
>>109402225She is what every vtuber should be when professional stuff has to be done.But yeah. As the mascot of the company she has been in several interviews and talked with multiple people during the early days.
>>109402266Shouldn't have apologised or acknowledged it at all desu, but I guess she handled it smoothly enough.
>>109402159Party rocking.
>>109401857Their worst retards are just as bad as chinks and koreans.
>>109401793Those fags will say Miko should have been terminated if she graduates
>>109401611O nyo nyo nyo nyo
Karma.
I know people shit on oversea fans because it turns into political spats and shit but imagine living like this
>>109402805This guy is so BASED
>>109402805I bet his little spergout in his closet sized apartment would have been a funny thing to witness.
>>109402805>a man with the strength of his convictionsBASED BASED BASED
>>109402805水商売女に常識求めるなよ
>>109402063The darkness within hololive
>>109402805Goddamn, she can't even be violently ill without people ascribing malice to it. How many times have holos overslept something and it turns into a fun meme?
>>109401415Is it as bad as elira? I read that elira had day 1 members spamming Ls and calling her a monster in her chat when the black stream happened
>>109401000Idk if she is in the right or wrong but she for sure will be the scapegoat
>>109402805>pekolmao cuckfaggy falseflagging again kek
>>109401224Are you retarded? Kizuna ai is the biggest vtuber. Miko isn't the biggest anywhere on the planet. Hell in japan if its not ai it's probably pokopea or a niji member honestly, maybe marine.
>>109402805Oh wow, 1 post with 5M impression. Sure seems like a legit account.
>>109401000subscriber counts for holoJP are going down across the board
>>109405649Try again
>>109402205>apologizing when you did nothing wrongYour father never came back from that cigarette run did he
>>109401030she's the biggest name, she will get the blame.
>>109406315>streams charts
>>109402805Peak incel nation. No wonder why japanese birthrates have cratered, who'd want to fuck this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBLcQtxfOys
>>109406599>botted peanutslmao also yes exactly, Miko is the biggest japanese vtuber and the biggest female vtuber in the world. This is the reason antis are attacking her, it's because she mogged pehora and nijishit hard. All Marine got is her subs but no one watches her anymore lol. pokopea? one trick pony. nijishit? nothing without bots ksk
>>109405649Damn, that 5 year coma must have been rough anon, I hope you recover.
>>109401602>>109401936>>109402063>>109402113>>109402119>>109402805retard
>>109406743why is the first one retarded? do you lack reading comprehension?
>>109401350What'd she do to bug them this time?
>>109401793Jesus fuck how often are they going to get mad on behalf of other people and then get pissy when it turns out they're wrong? The funniest example of this I can think of is when NijiEN's Vox made a yo mama joke to Sonny and it immediately started the downfall of his entire channel because they were just so offended at the idea of insulting somebody's mother. Granted in that case they were pandering to them so it was bound to happen eventually.
>>109407166see >>109401793
You know things have spiraled out of control when people are attacking her for "being late" (as far as they knew at the time). In the past when a holomem was late or oversleeping, even for a collab, everyone would joke and try to make a trending hashtag. Even for this collab Sora was having fun in Miko's chat while waiting (picrel). Turns out she was pretty ill and puking her guts out, and people went apeshit on her.Miko is the punching bag for everyone who has issues with Cover because they need someone to take the frustration out on, and the clique and preferential treatment shit that antis spread is the perfect excuse to use her.
>>109401000first time?
>>109407438When's the last time things were this bad? Coco? Rushia?
>>109407695Coco. Rushia actually legitimately fucked up so hard she got terminated. This is people looking for every single thing they can to attack her with every day.
>>109401030I feel like it's a combination of it: people are still upset at the string of graduations that have no answers and whether it be clique reasons or management favoritism enough Holo girls have brought up being excluded from opportunities and Miko is one of the handful of those that benefits from the circumstances. The larger problems will never be addressed unless people start coming clean about the stuff that has been happening the last two-three years to get us to this point. And that will never happen so whatever is Miko's actual role she will keep getting the tail end of it and nothing will get better for anyone else.
>>109402827>>109402884>>109403270>>109403457>>109403509>>109407135retard
>>109408068What problems? People tend to move jobs after a handful of years lol.
>>109408068>people are still upset at the string of graduations that have no answers the answers were given by the members themselves and their actions after leaving.>whether it be clique reasons or management favoritism enough Holo girls have brought up being excluded from opportunities retard>The larger problems will never be addressed unless people start coming clean about the stuff that has been happening the last two-three years to get us to this pointretard
>>109408068So they're just jealous that Miko is popular and, naturally, gets more opportunities in some ways. Great, gotta love the modern Hololive fanbase.
>>109402104She's a pro at this. I can't remember what it was, but she answered some fucker's SC or something live with something smooth but with stern edge telling them to stop whatever it was they were planning on asking the other girls or something. Maybe 2 years ago.
>>109407438Rant about Miko drama: The Green Channel potential copyright infringement was just the spark. It has been building up for some time. The antis claim that Miko bullied Haato, Kanata, and Pekora. Using holomem to destroy holomem is a very effective tactic. Notice the 3 members chosen: Haato is on hiatus, Kanata is graduated, and Pekora completely avoids/ignores her. This is crucial because there is no chance for any solid counter-evidence. So, even though the bullying evidence is inconclusive, it still stands because of the lack of counter-evidence and now the Green Channel incident.The Green Channel incident is important because it paints Miko as an evil/bad person. Without it, there would be no motivational reason for why Miko allegedly bullies holo members. Miko repeated a few sentences from a paid horse racing stream. First of all, it's not really even about the copyright infringement. She only repeated a few sentences and also, at that time she did not explicitly state/disclose that she was doing it, which would mean that the only way people knew that she did it was because they were also watching/listening to the same paid stream. Therefore, Miko's stream would not have any effect on Green Channel's paid subscriptions. The true problem I think, is that Miko sort of cheated/plagiarized. By repeating the sentences, she took a shortcut for content. Instead of saying original words, she repeated what they said. I don't view this as her being lazy; the lazy thing to do would be to be silent and not talk, or even to not stream at all. In fact, it is her trying so hard that she uses questionable methods.Now, with the Sora collab stream, it is the same thing. She suddenly felt sick, but instead of immediately cancelling the stream, she delayed the Youtube waiting room by 30 minutes. And, I get her logic, IF the cause of the sickness was food poisoning, then after vomiting, maybe she would feel well enough to stream. However, in the end, she just wasted people's time. Miko is trying hard to do her best, which is a part of her core personality. And, because of these things, she has been portrayed as an evil person. Sidenote: In the past I watched a Noel clip where she talked about how she thinks that it's unfair that if a good person does one bad thing, then some people think that they are actually a bad person.Finally, I'm going to talk about the anti's justifications. Well, some of them anti her for more simple reasons like because she is a woman, or because they are envious of her position. But, a lot of them are idealists who truly think that destroying the bad is good and maybe even necessary for a better society. A few years ago, I thought of a fucked up trolley problem: The Earth is going to be blown up (all life on the planet will die) by terrorists or aliens or whatever, and the ONLY way to stop it is for someone to rape a kid (children can't consent so it is rape). You get to decide the person who rapes the kid, and you can choose either a pedophile or a non-pedophile to rape the kid. Now, obviously both choices are terrible and one of them has to be chosen by you in order to save Earth. But after reading so many anti tweets and seeing their idealistic justice, I have recently thought of a 3rd solution: Before the hypothetical even begins, destroy every single pedophile in existence. That way when it occurs, there will be only one choice left.The Miko bench picture: it has put my own and other people's focus on the bench and the rest of the files. If a closer examination is done, something will be revealed. On her sidebar, there are 2 different folders with the exact same name: "screenshots". Both of them are pinned to her quick access, or maybe it's the same folder somehow pinned twice, but either way, it is objectively bad organization. Miko is not flawless.
>>109410923>Finally, I'm going to talk about the anti's justifications.Thinking that Miko is evil and needs to be eradicated is exactly why they are antis and why nothing they think is justifiable.
>>109410923how the fuck can you plagiarize horse racing commentary? thats like if someone said "swing and a miss, struck him out!" from a baseball game on ESPN and got shit on for it. That's the most retarded inbred shit I've ever heard of, and I dont even like Miko
>>109402805japs have been like this for a long time.it really should be called out more
>>109402104>Goes to Sora's tweet>The best the antis could respond to her is "It is okay to be a bit angry and scold her off stream you know">The majority of the remaining responses are "Wow what a saint"Sora is fucking good.
>>109402805>nothing whatsoever until this tweetseems legit
>>109411584I thought she is a baby but this is truly a professional adult. No wonder people outside Hololive even hesitate to bother her.
>>109407438Yeah oldfags who had been around since 2019 or earlier seen cancelled collabs pretty often and it wasn't the end of the world.
>>109412074The funniest thing is people are saying that Miko lied about being sick to cover up for her oversleeping.. who the fuck would cancel a collab because they overslept for 10 minutes? All of the hate is inorganic as fuck and anyone who falls for it needs to kill themselves out of shame.
>>109406679People do watch Marine but she doesn't stream much.
what happened
>>109414716Miko got outed as an evil snek
>>109407643Qrd, I don't know the gook lore
All this just because Hayato is a pedophile
>>109410923There could be a good reason for why she had two screenshot folders. You can't just assume bad organization from that alone.
>>109402805if this was western vtubing everyone would be cringing and clowning on this tweet
>>109415196good thing japchads gatekeep their hobbies
>>109414716
>>109414879shitty fans and they are being sued for copyrightthey have been losing subs consistently for the past year and their viewership and memberships have been cut in half despite bottingon top of that they canceled another concert sponsored by wuwa within hours of announcement because no one wants to be associated with them
>>109410923MIko antis go back years. They hate her already and look for information to twist to their purposes, that's just how antis are.
>>109401000Hang miko, save hololive, simple as
>>109401030>It really feels like she's getting the heat that Hololive deserves on her shoulders personally.Many of the JP fans love Cover so much that they can't blame management for the large number of graduations in 2025. I do think many of those fans wanted another outlet for their anger which ended up on Miko. Cover does vaguely blame talents for their graduations so I do think on some level they subtly encourage this brand loyalty mindset.
>>109410923>there are 2 different folders with the exact same name: "screenshots". Both of them are pinned to her quick access, or maybe it's the same folder somehow pinned twice, but either way, it is objectively bad organization. Miko is not flawless.kek
>>109401793>japsoffing themselves because of shit work culture>also japswe don't care you're sick, you have to stream or we sperg outno wonder indians and pakis are taking over their country lmao
>>109416682hang antis, save miko, simple as
>>109401583I fucking hate the japanese
>>109417639The funniest shit in this is that they are using Sora as their shield to scream "Mikochi's sickness is BS"The same Sora who's known to often have a sudden motion sickness while playing games.The same Sora who can't stand a slightly above average room temperature heat and will collapse from it.The same Sora who often felt bad to their audiences for having to stop the stream due to her being sick.Out of all the talents, the antis picked one of the most understanding of all.
>>109410923Maybe the antis were just disappointed they missed an opportunity to witness live Mikochi vomit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG5X-2VDQws
>>109412163Yeah, when literally she's overslept on the Game awards stream and proceed to stream but nobody gave a shit about that. Right now it's just pure hatred towards Miko
>>109402063Who is... Sakura Miko? That's what you're asking?
>>109401000>anti Miko thread appears when phase is crumbling from drama I'm noticing
>>109408068You antis really need to stick to a narrative if you don't want to come off as retards. Your complaint now is that the ones who graduate don't get enough opportunities but your complaint then was that they get too many. A lot of Holomems are females who really liked the idea of being in the magical girl group including Kanata but when she was graduating you freaks were saying it was evil that she was put in there and that's why she graduated.
>>109419233No, Sora was definitely irresponsible and it's easier to convince normies that she was in the right and Miko in the wrong then the reverse. It's basically impossible to pretend they were both in the right because they gave conflicting information in real-time and that caused the drama. The truth is the details are almost certainly a little changed for PR, because it's hard to imagine Sora was actually as irresponsible as she appeared.
>>109422998>are females who really liked the idea of being in the magical girl group including KanataMeanwhile Kanata self-made projecr was turning holo into ikemen. How new? Noz*mu prefers to be a cool guy than a cute girl is a known fact
>>109423108>because they gave conflicting information in real-timeWrong, listen to Sora's latest space
>>109424696Nobody cares what they said a day after the fact, what they did in real-time is the issue you fucking retard. The rest of us can't time travel.
>>109425259There is no conflicting information in real-time, only "misunderstanding" in real-time because retards like (You) making dumb assumptions
>>109401000QRD? I can't remember hololive subs going down ever outside maybe their bilibili accounts after Taiwangate. Is it Heimin over Kanata's exit or is there something else going on?
>>109426079Haachama autumn rebellionKanata winter rebellion
https://youtube.com/@v_virgin_mary?si=JnxCAeL1Oe60CNLJMiko antis lost, pack it up
>>109426026You're an idiot. Irresponsible actions led to those "misunderstandings" because those were the only possible understandings at the time based on the information provided by the two parties in question.
>>109401000https://www.youtube.com/@V_Virgin_Maryyou lostnousagi kill yourself
>>109401583>>109401793Alright so I get that these are the excuses people are using to attack Miko, but what's the actual reason they're doing it?
>>109426629nousagi have been attacking Miko just as their owner does
>>109426743Proofs? With this level of organisation there's gotta be some discord or running 2chan thread or some shit.
>>109401583Also Pekora did the same things more than her but antis are silenthttps://imgur.com/a/ACtOiyk
>>109426629They hate her because she's the most popular which happens to everyone. She became a much bigger target and it's been non-stop ever since because she directly called them out and made it clear she's very sensitive and controlled by what they say. Until she stops shaping her content around what they want, they get the satisfaction of winning that they can't get in normal anti activities against high-profile people.
>>109401793>>109401583Holo EN fans are unironically better than the JP ones.
>>109426456>because those were the only possible understandings at the time based on the information provided by the two parties in questionWrong again, oh wait maybe you meant it's the only possible understandings by morons like (You). I'm sorry for your lack of intelligence then, should've known better how a retard mind works.
>>109427273Well at least you gave up playing the innocent retard gag and admitted to just being a lying snake.
>>109423108>>109425259>>109426456>>109429052This you?
>>109401583Why is it impossible to have a high trust society that simultaneously lynches narcs like these?
>>109423108what are you even saying? you're acting like your life hinged on these girls streaming and now you must have someone to blameI hope you'll realize that you are pathetic and stop this nonsense
>>109423108Dude, Miko was violently ill and a collab got cancelled. Holo members oversleep by hours sometimes and it's made into a meme. Either you're one of the retards constantly attacking Miko, or you're one of the retards falling for antis tactics of blowing everything out of proportion.
>violently ill>collab with korone next dayYou got my respect sora. Truly hololive daisenpai.
>>109429324I don't think Sora posts on this board.
>>109429544>>109429585You two definitely give the impression of being braindead. Don't just imagine fantasies in your head and start violently attacking them, they aren't real. You don't have to attack anyone, that doesn't mean you also have to live outside reality.
>>109406599Damn, Peanut is clearing all these hoes. Also holy fuck, the Kanae fall off needs to be studied, wtf happened? Him and Kuzuha used to be equals
>>109429791She took yesterday off.
>>109429898You're the one acting like some great injustice was done here. Get a grip, it's really not that big of a deal.
>>109429898so you're just retarded, got it
This reminds me of 1 long post on 4chan back before vtubing was a thing about antis. Pretty much antis can be considered part of the fandom to what media or celebrity they pay attention to, just focused on hate rather than like, and unless they hate-watch what ever it is they're secondaries. So just imagine being part of the fandom where you spend time and energy on something you hate rather than something you like, rather pathetic thing to do, especially if you're a secondary.Still, why does it seem far more common for there to be these type of spergs in asian countries?
>>109415196Only japchad's opinion matter to jap corpo, eop is just a view bot farm for them
I stopped watching her streams not because of some controversy or anything like that but because I just don't like the content. It feels like for the last 3 months her stream are either endurance stream (those are 99% filler), promotional stream or playing FOMO stream-bait indie trash. The RE4 stream was a step in the right direction, but too bad it's a game I want to play for myself first, so I had to give it a skip. Maybe it has always been this way and I just got tired of the GFE, I dunno. Also this is not a problem with just her.
>>109430636lmao absolutely not true. everytime a foreigner shows up to any type of a live event in Japan they are threated like a royalty by the staff and organizers.
behead all holoantis, nijiniggers, phasefags, and chinks
