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>>109437469
the last time they posted the heart spam, wasn't it good news for them, like right before the To Heart collab or something? It feels like more homework to me
smiles status?
The amount of disgruntled Ruffians in the last thread is disturbing. Like why stick around if you don't even trust your own oshi anymore? I don't understand.
>>109437691Destroyed
>>109437691upside down
>>109437698I'm in too deep.
>>109437691wounded enough to come to this place for the first time in months
>>109437720:)(: ?
>>109437691It's ruff being a ruffian
>>109437698Why throw the baby out with the bathwater? One stupid incident isn't enough to really make a case for dropping someone. The real argument is why be so attached to them? Consume on a casual level seems like a much better option.
>>109437698Why do you incorrectly assume they're ruffians and not antis false-flagging?
>>109437749kek
>>109437698>I don't understand.We don't expect yesmen to understand.
>>109437698>Implying I even watch streams anymore
>>109437691I am sad and the thought that this situation was brought by their own hand makes it even worse. I do hope that they get some rest… before they get back to the wheel and do it all over again.
>>109437754Get waped
No way dude
>>109437637KEK
>>109437786 >Why be so attached to them Because I really like FUWAMOCO. Simple as
>>109437818Good summary of the situation. Of course I'm not angry, but I'm hurt that their shifting priorities led to this. I wish they'd let go of their perfectionism for a moment and just do a chill zatsudan tomorrow morning/night, even if it means postponing the high-effort stuff like VRC
JwuGive me a tldr on why everyone's mad
>>109437731https://youtu.be/emGri7i8Y2Y?si=LQEUK_UQUmnE9ugs
oh so now you get here, j-channot last thread
>>109437976i ate all the valentine’s chocolate
>>109437976They cancelled all Valentine's streams
I wish they still loved the Ruffians. At least we still have some of the pillars of holoJP that get it yet.
>>109438041YikesGuess I'm spending it with Biboo this year
>>109437976FUWAMOCO cancelled all Valentine's streams and are taking a week hiatus to focus on homework and rest.
>>109438021Pero you FAT FUCK
>>109438046>Hey guys, I'm feeling pretty rough>So I'll try my best to get better and make it through for tomorrows stream that you were looking forward to!>If I really can't do it, I'll just do something lighter and more private because I don't think I'll be bringing my a-game to the channel so it'll be members onlyvs>Members only post>Sorry we can't try at all to make any of it work, so we're just going to throw away the entire weekend of streams.>We took on too much homework and are getting sick again because we can't ever figure out a way to pace ourselves>Please, please don't be mad though!
>>109438127>Members only postThey posted on twitter though...?
It's obviously something more serious than homework
anotha' onesounds like a graduation or worse
>sisters reply to themselves for hundreds of posts>wow look at all the real ruffians that hate them
>>109438156Please please please let it be Nerissa please please
How's the chair treating you holobros? I heard it happened again?
>>109438156What the fuck is happening? It's only EN tweeting this shit, so is someone kill? Did Kiara get eaten by sharks on the Maldives? Is Mori's family problem spilling over into EN somehow?Did they tell EN they weren't getting another concert in the summer?
>>109438156haachama…
>>109438205Who even is this
>>109438156My first thought was Haachama and my stomach turned.
>>109437691ueh
>>109438198I see the /ope/ niggers are here. No wonder thread shittery is happening. Its fucking myron and crew
SUPPORT (clap emoji) NIGGER (clap emoji) VTUBERS
>>109438156did someone dieded
>>109438215>>109438246Wait Haachama hasn't graduated yet? I thought she was gone a long time ago
>>109438152What makes you say that? They said Mococo was falling asleep in recordings the other day, not to mention Hytale and all that. It sounds exactly like they're sleep-deprived and/or just got another homework opportunity
>>109438198kys
>>109438198She just moved Shiori is more likely
>>109437698I want them to stop being retarded because I love them, I wouldn't care otherwise
>>109438282>Shiori is more likelyEven better
>>109438156Korone...
Rate the schedule!
So thats it Ruffians You let these niggers come in and talk shit about your oshii. Where is your motivation. Where is you anger. Rage for your oshii hunt these fuckers down to their last remaining bloodline. Dont let this niggers belittle the love of your oshii for you.HUNT HUNT HUNT KILL KILL KILL
>>109438156First death in hololive?
>>109438311Cancelation/10
>>109438317how do we do that pebblebro?
>>109438156Hitomi Chris...
>>109438277I don't think it's anything serious. Looking at how tired they were lately it was clear they had to take a break eventually, but the tech problems during the collab and the YGO stream probably pushed them past their breaking point.
>>109438311The REPO collab was good.Room review had some funny moments.5/10, ok.
>>109437698I'm a day 1 member, I won't leave that easily. But what happens after this will determine how I feel. If they come back and skip over the Valentine's streams entirely, or if they keep up the claim they left to do homework, I'm cancelling my membership. If they reveal it was something else actually serious that cancelled the streams, I'll forgive them.
>>109438210For them to get upset it has to be EN related or someone from Myth graduating.
>>109438378again!?
>>109438322I don't think she would talk about that with poop emoji
>>109438336 report function for troll works properly for /gem/. How do you think we have kept that spilt schizo free for so long
>>109438311Floofies 10/10.
>>109438156the kiara/ina concert has to be a graduation live for at least one of them
>>109438409I get banned when I use it
>>109438363You will come back regardless of what they do and keep shitting up the thread because you're a huge faggot with no life.
>>109438210I dont think both incident are the same anon.Irys might be some issue with her album or 3D livebut for fwmc i think mococo or fuwawa might be having trouble with VR thing and they are too annoyed and tired at this point to fix it
>>109438449Everyone needs to do it together. I think at minimum 3 people need to report a post as troll for the user to get banned
>>109438156Wait she's allowed to still do valentine's streams even when sad? Did no one tell FUWAMOCO?
>>109438481there aren't even 10 unique here any more
>>109438483>>109438455
>>109438363I kinda feel like you but I don't think just doing the valentine's streams later makes up for this. They need to put actual effort into this, and they need to actually stop taking as much homework. This moment needs to be their wake up call. What good is a delayed out of date valentine's stream if they keep doing the same mistakes over and over?
>>109438481It only works for doxx in /baubau/. The doxx posts were taken down so the jannies are here. But the shitposts remain
>>109438428If it were, it'd be Ina for sure. Kiara is too invested in her image in Holo and has been trying her best to get more homework opportunities.Yes, I watch more than one talent, sue me.>>109438455If it somehow is tech issues, they REALLY need to take some actual serious time to sit down and figure this shit out. Their seemingly unwillingness to actually care about their streams outside of a few hours before the stream starts leads to a lot of problems and cancellations and I wish they'd take more time to actually think of solutions for their setup as 2 people, 1 channel.
>>109438449I've been on this site for 10 years and I've never gotten banned for reporting a post. Did you spam report 50 times or something?
>>109438317There are no raffians left, they all killed themselves after the members post
>>109438535I got 3 days for>>>>>false reportingand then all the post i reported disappears anyway not long after because turns out i'm not wrong
>>109438515>This moment needs to be their wake up callI feel like I've heard that before
>>109438342Actually, what happened in YGO? I was watching some other VOD yesterday, but I noticed they took a 10-min water break for some reason. Did they sound like something was off?
>>109438539You should kill yourself but for real
How do we recover from this
>>109438515I was looking at it from the other direction, of what would be the last straw for me rather than what would redeem them. If there's no make-up Valentine's stream at all, I'm cancelling. If they insist they took a break for homework, I'm cancelling.
>>109438622>If they insist they took a break for homeworkand if they took a break for health reasons?
These shiposts about them not caring about streams or preparing for streams is giving me early day /infinity/ posting for Kronii's first few months.
A STREAM!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67AnLMVxV5c
>>109438655Thanks Nae
>>109438455There's no way they would take an entire week off and cancel the membership valentine's stream just because of that, anon. I feel like the timing for these EN doomposts is too convenient for it to be all just a coincidence.
>>109438156I think it's a separate issue from what FUWAMOCO and Raora are facing. It's coincidence. Probably cover fucked her over with music like they did Ina's EP. Worthless fucking company.
>>109438675Oh shit even Kiara is commenting. Now this is serious
>>109438655>JAP shill streamKEKAROOOOOOOOOO
>>109438675imagine having a valentine-themed song mv ready for valentine but cover fucked up once again
did they do a valentine's last year
>>109438590Mococo went silent for a bit suddenly and her eye tracking made it look like she was crying, then immediately after that Mococo said that she needed a "water break" and they put the loading screen for like 5 minutes. Some of us think she was crying for some reason and needed a break to put herself together.
>>109438675>colored heartsWell it's a graduation confirmed then. I wonder who. ina?
>>109438156they’re downgrading her back to her goblina model
>>109438590Mococo was fumbling effects and it looked like they were going to lose so she went dead silent. Fuwawa tried to recover the situation, eventually Mococo asked for a water break, when they came Fuwawa's voice sounded highly strung. Probably Mococo got so frustrated at the game she started crying.
>>109438528>sit down and figure this shit outanon they have multiple projects lined up. They are the top merch movers of their gen. Ruffians are the best fanbase in EN currently and both girls really love them. But they are also human and they cant handle everything if you cant understand this then idk and also they are most probably stay by themselves and you expect a 2 idol fagging woman to be good at tech support as well?
>Sorry, wuffians, we'd really love to stream on Valentine's Day, but we're... uh... sick and stuff*cough*>Yeah! Sick of you!>Mocochan....>Pound me harder, oji-san!>Mocochan, you're gonna make him go too quickly...>Hoeh! Harder! Harder!!!>Anyways, we'll stream again soon, so wait for us, ok, wuffians? Bau bau~>*cums* BAU BAUUUUU
>>109438722Yes but it was a pre-recorded vn stream.
>>109438644NTA, but if it was something serious like that I'd obviously forgive them and be okay with the cancellations, same goes for any serious family/personal thing that could've happened.
>>109438674>I feel like the timing for these EN doomposts is too convenient for it to be all just a coincidence.>Hoping for graduationyou smell of curry anon
I was reading last thread but the guy who was choosing VNs should do Muv Luv
>>109438752kek
>>109438805Don't you need to play the original to get to the Alternative though?That's like, a good 50 hours
>>109438756Streams are an important part of their business, even if people like to pretend they aren't. Yes, they should pour some time and effort into researching how they can make the streaming experience better and more consistent, especially when the two of them want to play a game at the same time from their house.
>>109438644I'd stick with them if it's a real health problem. The ambiguous, "feeling unwell recently," isn't an excuse though.It's been said a million times already, but the problem is ultimately communication. If there's a serious problem they completely failed to communicate it. If there isn't, they picked the worst words to use for a sudden absence.
>>109438788I'm not hoping for anything, you fucking schizo.
>>109438752Wouldn't that be an upgrade? I miss her old look.
>>109438875>If there's a serious problem they completely failed to communicate it. If there isn't, they picked the worst words to use for a sudden absence.THIS. I hope they actually explain themselves better eventually, because this isn't it.
>>109438910Ew no that shit was ugly as fuck
>>109438836Extra is like 13 hours, it's worth it, just trust everyone on the internet and play it
>>109438934Ok Santa. We know you got issues with IRyS.
ngl I am disappointed. I feel some of their content, particularly the day-to-day streams has deteriorated. This affects enthusiasm and the drop in superchats/ccv reflects this. They don't have the ability of ui/suisei/marine/saba to stream occasionally while maintaining a large devoted fanbase. Having said that, they still put out kino stuff like the 3D room review. That was a very creative approach which I enjoyed. I will continue to support them as best as I can
>>109438910dammit, i’m trying to eat lunch here
Who is least likely to graduate
>>109438836OG Muv Luv gets a lot of undeserved hate, yes it's a bit generic but the scenes are fun and the character interactions are cute. Also, it sets up everyone's dynamics and when you get to unlimited thays very important to see how everything changes
>>109438994
>>109438910>>109438985>>109439013Uggo
I'm not sure if it's related to FUWAMOCO or not, but on top of Raora a few other EN vtubers in Japan are facing visa issues/deportation. So that might be what had them stressed out. But it's weird that they would word it the way they did and not do a statement like Raora did. I guess we'll know if they keep tweeting.
>>109438836If you like FWMC you should enjoy Muv Luv Extra, it's a classic rom com moege
>>109438875If it's a temporary problem then they don't have to obligation to communicate it. Not everything needs to public.
>>109439059They don't want to make the Ruffians worry is my guess. We know how they are about that.
>>109438863No one is denying the importance of streams. But just blindly streaming isn't going to help either. FWMC is not optimizing their stream times. They spent too much time on debuff content like superchat readings/VNs/afterparties. They really need to play 1-2 FOTMs on a weekly basis
>>109439002Mori
>>109439002Mori's dad
>>109439198Crazy people expected her to be the first to dip back in the days. Now she is the main pillar of EN
>>109439132>They don't want to make the Ruffians worry is my guessThey are making the Ruffians even more worried and disappointed by not being more open about it.
>>109439059There's no proof of this. Japan hasn't touched their immigration laws yet so anything you see on the catalog about "deportation" is just browns baiting each other.
>>109439219she would have if her dd career took off
>>109439219To be fair, she WAS completely different back then.
Uhhh guys?
>>109439260UUUUOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH
>>109439260she saw a cunny walked past
>>109439260Subaru's talking with Biboo, what of it?
>>109439260Look at the tweet right before that one for context, anon
>>109439260TuT
>>109439085If that's how you're looking at this, you're hopelessly lost. They chose to communicate a problem, and went with saying it's homework and taking a break. Right before one of the most anticipated holidays and streams of the year, all of which is now cancelled. They didn't ghost, they didn't say they're cancelling just because. They said they cancelled Valentine's for homework, so that's what they'll be judged on.
>>109439260
>>109439059Their case shouldn't be a Visa thing. If it was Visa related they woudn't be legally allowed to work and their Manager would need to make a statement for them like Ina and Raora
>>109439345kek
I think I'm kinda... done with vtubing as a whole. FWMC was the one thing I was hanging on to, the oasis in a desert of shit, but after this I just don't think I have it in me to keep watching vtubers. I'm so tired of it all. The lying, being treated as an inconvenience when we literally pay their bills, the excuses to so anything but entertain us for like an hour.I'm so done with it all man. I am so, so sick and done. This was just the last straw
>>109439383I don't care
I just can't believe them. Don't they understand how suspicious this looks? There's no way they're suddenly ill or burnt-out one day before Valentines Day week when they were absolutely fine just yesterday. There has never been a time I have been more convinced that they are lying or hiding something from us than right now. It doesn't make any sense that their plans changed so drastically unless they are going somewhere. They fulfilled their stream commitments to sponsors, but I guess we're not important enough and so they decide to take a break during the one week of the year for couples? Are you kidding? It's a lie now matter how you look at it.How do they even know they're going to be "sick" the entire week? They can't even talk to us on Valentines Day for even an hour? That obviously means they know they're not going to be home. That's the only reason why they wouldn't be able to stream for an hour the entire day tomorrow.None of this makes any sense at all.I want them to tell the truth.
>>109439392Nobody said you had to
>>109439147Where in my post was I talking about streaming willy-nilly? The whole point was that it is pretty important for them to figure out how to run things properly for their streams and their channel to make it as inviting as possible. Double voice overlap, cancelling streams because of tech issues that pop up last minute because of not actually taking the time to test, these kinds of things negatively impact the general enjoyment of a stream AND the viewership.
>>109439383I wouldn't say it's the last straw for me, but it does make me want to pull back from them and be less invested. It's probably better that way in the long run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67AnLMVxV5c
>>109439476You are 100% correct on this matterLike I think all of us can agree that spending 7 hours on a shitty Chilla fishing but not thoroughly testing if they can even run Fortnite was clearly some fucked up priorities.
>>109439344Would you prefer it if they ghosted us, or if they said they're cancelling for no reason? It's obviously an excuse. I don't care if other people are stupid enough to take it at face value, they're allowed to make excuses if they think it's the best course of action. Maybe they could have done better, but to say you're going to judge them simply for not traumadumping on ruffians whatever's happening at the moment is simply malicious. They're as probably as sad about the cancellations as ruffians are.
>>109439413>they are lying or hiding something from usThis is obvious, and I think anyone discussing here in good faith knows it. The only question is whether they're hiding a problem or hiding personal plans. And if it's a problem, I bet it's something of their own doing.
>>109439543I don't disagree with this, but for what it's worth, I think gaming streams longer than 3 hrs are just them having fun and relaxing at that point
>>109439383Watch casually. I've started to grow a little bitter of all the time I've dumped into watching streams because I refuse to play games with actual story/engagement while watching a stream and stream watching has cut severely into my time for anime and reading. Honestly, I think it's more my need to feel 'up to date' to talk about anything here. If I could just pop in and talk about a recent stream for a little bit with a few people, it'd be fun, but it's always the same mentally ill retards here day in and day out that go "WHY DIDN'T YOU TALK ABOUT THIS 5 DAYS AGO SHUT UP AND LET ME TALK ABOUT JERKING OFF OR MY INTERNET BOYFRIENDS".I don't regret the time I've spent since late 2020, but I do feel like it's coming to close and the only thing really keeping me from cutting it fully is that I genuinely do enjoy some of the content. I need to just figure out how to stop coming to this fag site (at least /vt/) and just watch whatever I feel like on youtube when I've got nothing to do.
>>109439543>7 hours on a shitty Chilla fishingAre you really complaining about long gaming streams...?
>>109439589>if you're going to judge them on their lies you're maliciousSome of you need to take a step back and read your own stuff.
>>109438198I don't remember IRyS ever even talking to Nerissa...
>>109439605In mooooost cases yeah but Umigari was definitely not that. They pulled an all nighter and were definitely ready for it to end. They only streamed that long cause according to them they would have had no other good time to stream the rest of it.
>>109439476No one disagrees with that. I am coming from a point of view on what is the minimum investment into streaming they can get away with.
>>109439618I’ve been feeling the exact same way for a long time. Since late 2020 I’ve completely fallen off of anime and gaming. I’ve tried to get back in, but the constant, daily streams give me major FOMO. I don’t want to give up Hololive, but I need to find a better balance.
>>109439634Yes, claiming they're lying is malicious. A lie is meant to deceive. They're not deceiving anyone by omitting personal matters or downplaying their problems. This is something people do when they don't want to worry others. Some of you are seriously socially stunted.
>>109439618The hobby just feels so barren now. Everywhere I look I either see ridiculous egirls who clearly hate the gig and are resentful or their audience or people who are just streamers but anime model. Nothing feels fun or interesting anymore.I do think that's a good strategy. Maybe it's time to get a weekly or monthly recap rather than becoming invested. But man that makes me sad.
>>109439619In this case absolutely. They pulled an all nighter, got 0 hours of sleep that day, because they spent all that time on that game. And the game fucking sucked, and the stream wasn't that great either cause go figure they weren't that energetic farming fish in a shit game at 3AMI genuinely would have rather they skipped that stream and gotten a full night's sleep that day. Maybe that would have let them get more work done the next day and they wouldn't need to take a fucking rest break a week later on Valentine's day
>>109439735Embrace the 2view cgdct indies
>>109439413>they're not going to be homeif any of this were true, they would be falling asleep in the middle of their hypothetical dateBut I agree that they phrased this whole thing in a godawful way, and it forces us to speculate. I think that whatever they write to us is true in their heads, at least. But it's just so last-minute... literally even a twitter space would make things better, and I don't get why they thought this would be the best course of action
>>109439801Just to warn the favoritism fags it's 100% worse with 2views.
We will be watching marine
>>109439730They are deceiving you, unless you actually believe they cancelled everything to do homework. And you've got to be kidding me if you can read this thread and think they didn't worry and disappoint the vast majority of Ruffians with what they wrote. Stop being such a gullible doormat.
>>109438805Ok thanks.
>>109439735>>109439723The one thing I can say is that I never let streams get in the way of hanging out with friends. I've definitely dodged going to mtg events to just chill at home and watch streams for a day, but that's usually because I just felt socially drained from the week. Covid, as stupid as it is, really broke me for the streamer shit and I had never watched anyone outside of a few 'pros' or people who had good info about games I played. The anime rigging seriously got me.
>>109439730>They're not deceiving anyone by omitting personal matters or downplaying their problemsThat's exactly what they're doing. Whether it's understandable or not depends on what the truth is. Also, there's such a thing as lie via omission, but that's not even what this is. Anyone with a brain can immediately tell what they're saying isn't the truth. The fact they replaced the truth with something that isn't true is by definition a lie. Something really bad that they can't talk about may have happened, or maybe they're ditching us to go be with a guy on Valentines Day instead. Whatever the real reason, they didn't feel comfortable sharing it, but what they told us "homework, feeling ill lately" was definitely not the reason for why they can't stream for even a little bit tomorrow.
Ironically, this whole situation is what Mococo described in the recent SC reading about ruffians imagining hypothetical situations and then getting sad about it. Except now their own actions are encouraging the negative thoughtloops.I usually rely on them to break those thoughtloops for me, but welp. I somehow need an escape from the escapism.
>>109439905Homework is not the reason they cancelled the streams. You should at least buy their membership if you're going to false flag.
>>109439735>Nothing feels fun or interesting anymore.How many years have you spent watching vtubers?
>>109440009>next card is thisWHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO TELL ME
>>109440018Mococo was preparing us for this announcement...
>>109439801They're all getting groomed on discord by their mods
>>109440018It wouldn't happen as much if FWMC weren't vague about it or at least explained it better.
>>109440052shitposters are willing to buy membership and leak the bad news on catalog
>>109440073Also they have channels only for paypigs that get to talk with the chuuba. The now disbanded small corp Eien had that shit.
>>109440018They literally couldn’t have done it in a worse way or at a worse time, and the excuse they gave was fucking terrible. The cuckposts are retarded, but FWMC aren't exactly doing anything to prove them wrong.
I canceled my membership after some time ago after not having watched them for over a year, mainly because I'm broke as fuck, and it's UNRELATED to any particular event. But since the membership is still active, I saw the member post and thought I would chime in.The problem with fuwamoco is that they keep promising the moon, and simply can't deliver. From the very beginning they promised more than any vtuber ever could. This attracted an audience of men with equally unrealistic expectations. The pace they started from the beginning was borderline miraculous, but unrealistic for the long-term.Whenever I see any other vtuber, they just seem... more relaxed? (btw I don't really watch anyone nowadays.) It's a double-edged sword. I initially found fuwamoco's extreme dedication admirable, and it sometimes yielded some pretty cool stuff. This motivates them to do well (good thing), but it also stresses them out and runs them into the ground, causing everything to fall apart and making them crawl over the finish line in a tattered state, if even that. They simply can't deliver what they promise, and the attempt to perform unrealistically hurts their ability to perform even moderately, and rather than emotional support in the context of gfe, they become emotional liability instead. Cover's corporate enshittification isn't helping.Fuwamoco need to be saved, but the audience is too damaged themselves to help them. A good man expects a good wife, but a good man is also realistic about her capacity, gives her mercy and keeps her in good condition, something the Ruffians don't have the strength nor initiative for as an internet mass, and since this unrealism was what the entire relationship was built upon, and fuwamoco can't hand it out to themselves without looking lazy and breaking the initial promise.The way they now just coincidentally happen to have to cancel valentines to rest is the most woman thing I've ever heard, both in good and in the bad. Like, it makes you admire their ability to keep up the act, but at the same time the obvious reality just makes you chuckle a bit. Maybe things could go a bit better if there was room for like, 2% more realism.TL;DR, There's a toxic circle of unrealistic promises to fulfill unrealistic expectations which just leads to a world of hurt and dysfunction. Adjusting the expectations downwards would yield more value and healthier relationship, but it's difficult to do because this is the very foundation of the relationship.
>>109440074Yeah. I can put two and two together and imagine that VRChat / ASMR tech issues are stressing them out amidst other homework, but I just don't get why they had to cancel outright instead of changing plans. And I still don't know how to interpret the RM post, because the post made me think they were in a good mood.
>>109440052Oh, now it's obvious you're just stirring the pot, but have a direct quote from their post for the road:>"we need a week off from streams to rest up lots and catch up with some homework too."
i feel sorry for you guyshope things get better
One other factor to keep in mind is that they genuinely don't like doing ASMR much. I'm not trying to sound like a faggot, but it's simply the truth. There have been numerous times where chat has spammed requests for ASMR, and they always say "Wow ruffians, you really like ASMR" and if you're not autistic, you can tell they're slightly annoyed by it. A part of me could believe they're telling the truth, that they're simply burned out and can't stomach the burden of doing ASMR, nevermind lovey-dovey ASMR which would be even harder if they're not feeling it. The tweet on the other account is even more baffling, why would they tweet hearts to pre-empt their own bad news? Makes me think it's a graduation.
>>109440177>men with equally unrealistic expectationsI literally just wanted them to do a valentine's day stream. That's all. I don't think asking for streams every now and then is me having unrealistic expectations.
>>109440256i agree with you on the asmr but tying that to graduation? wowie retard
>>109437691unprotected
>>109440177>The problem with fuwamoco is that they keep promising the moon, and simply can't deliver.The trick is to know your oshis well. I know they are in their elements when it comes to 3D performances so I look forward to those. General streaming I know they will inevitably fuck up one way or another so I tend to approach streams with a if it happens, it happens, if it doesn't, I will read a book
>>109440018Anyone got the timestamp? Or at least which SC reading it was? I watch most SC readings but I swear to fuck you guys paraphrase the shit out of things they say, so I can't tell if I missed this or just don't remember it this way.
>>109439831I really think that if they were going to be home for any part of Valentines day, be it JP hours or EN hours, they'd at least do the ASMR stream on Valentines day or at the very least, just talk to us to show that they care.Because if they really will be home, then it feels like they don't care. It feels like they're saying the stream plans itself is more important than actually being there with us, and so if they can't do what they planned, then they simply won't even show up at all.Either way, it really hurts.
>>109440256If it's graduation Biboo and Nerissa seem unfazed by it
I just cancelled my day one membership, not because I was angry about the cancelled streams but because I didn't fell anything about it. Before I would get annoyed and it would put me in a bad mood all day but now I just feel nothing. I feel that they could've been much more successful if they had managed themselves and their time better, but I don't see anything changing for the better anytime soon
>>109439383Yeah...Once fwmc graduate or do something that makes me wish they graduate I'm done with this hobby.No more streamers. I either want to go purely 3DPD or try to get a decent girlfriend. Depends on how successful attempts at the latter are
>>109440256You're concerned ruffian post needs more work to sound genuine shitposter-kun.
>>109437698I don't want to leave them, I want them to become more consistent.
>>109440256>don't like doing ASMRI don't think so; they've done quite a lot of it, and they sounded less nervous during Christmas. I think tech issues/perfectionism stress is by far a bigger issue. There are so many ways ASMR can go wrong, especially if they have a new idea. Between the two, I would say they don't enjoy VR chat.
>>109440328I'm phoneposting, but I believe it was in the most recent one early this week, maybe at 2 hrs or so? If you search the word "hypothetical" in the timestamp, it should come up
>>109440336>I feel that they could've been much more successfulLiterally how? To be much more successful they have to be the second coming of gura
>>109440009>>109440065What deck is this if you don't mind sharing?
>>109440329>the stream plans itself is more important than actually being there with usKnowing their particular brand of autism, this might actually be true in their heads. I wish I could bonk them and explain this, that even a chill stream would be better than vanishing on one of the Big 3 Holidays (Christmas and NYE being the other two)
>>109440442They're not even top 3 in current EN
updatedFWMC have finally returned to having schedules, just like they did beforeExactly like they did before.
>>109440499In terms of ccv yes they are not top 3. But them and ina are the only ones who can sell out their merch within10 minutes now. Biboo took 2 months to sell out her limited. CC took a month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j6OoMiZpg8
>>109440447ankidrone essential listed herehttps://djtguide.github.io/learn/anki.html
>>109437691I'm actively frowning
>>109440499They were never top 3 even when they debuted. It was Gura, Fauna and Ina taking the top 3 spots.
>>109440573yikes
>>109440442Early on they were getting more views than they do now, they have enough dedicated fans to sell a lot of merch but merch isn't everything
>>109437698you realize that I can express my frustration without destroying the marriage right?
>>109440643After today's stunt I'm not sure they will be selling out fast anymore. Unless they have more JP fans that don't care about them missing a big holiday than I thought.
>>109440649no actually you dont seem to be able to
>>109440643I think other than biboo and kronii, everyone has a drop in views no? Nerissa had her issues last year for example
>>109438156haato was found in the ditch over medicated or something?
>>109440643It is everything to management to achieving their goals. Not so much for Ruffians though.
>>109440573Do jailbirds like it when they're called virgins?
I have a theory regarding Haachama but I don't dare to say
Hopefully they at least bothered to schedule a Valentine's Day tweet. If we don't even get that I am at a loss for words
>>109440587Thank you
>>109440762Well if they want sololive somebody has to actually show up for it
>>109423437looks like FWMC won't be doing it either lmao
>>109440696I'm not leaving any hateful messages or cancelling the memba retard
>>1094408664k, no chance. 1k I think is doable.
>>109440866It's going to be in japan with 95% of the audience being Japanese. I highly doubt all those people are going to care about a few english streams they were never going to watch will bother them.
>>109440817I don't know if it's better or worse for them to actually post something on valentine's after the cancellation. It kinda feels like rubbing salt on the wound. But then again if they don't do it it will make them look really bad.
None of the JPs have been doomposting, Chammers is fine
>>109440546hihii have a questionactually it wasn't a yapyap streamFWMC LOVE hehe~BAU BAU
Anyone still sending them a Valentine's Day message after this shit is an absolute cuck of the highest order.
>>109440817It wouldn't be a good look. But that's just my opinion.
>>109440991Miko...Subaru...IRyS...
>>109438528>Their seemingly unwillingness to actually care about their streams outside of a few hours before the stream starts leads to a lot of problems and cancellationsbut if they fixed the problems they would have to stream more
>>109440817nah man like wtf would it look like? >wuffians please come watch our valentines stream on the 24th?
>>109441054They could say they love us and post a cute 3D pose of them
>>109441006It's a lose-lose situation. If they do it, they'll look bad because they couldn't bother spending time with the ruffians on valentine's. If they don't do it then [insert cuckposting angle #84]
>>109438428>has to be a graduation liveyou gonna naked dogeza when it isnt?
>>109438483theres a reason i cancelled my membership for the baubaus but not IRyS
>>109440817I don't care about Valentine's Day so if they're not streaming I don't see any reason to care. It's not a national holiday.
I wonder what they're doing on valentine's day instead of streaming
I might need to take the pawprints off for a bit I don't want to deal with retards bringing this up.
>>109441133Their extra special ruffian surprised them with a week vacation to somewhere warm.
>>109440809Haachama was likely sent into a force-drugging facility by her family again, and things are only going to get worse, those things really fuck people up. Her audience was built based on enabling her schizo tendencies which she was pretty disgruntled about (as well as mishandling by Cover), so I don't know if she has anyone to turn for real support.
It's not like I care about Valentine's day. It's a commerce fest. But I do care in the sense that cancelling all of these streams entirely (not even just moving them around or only cancelling one of them etc.) better have a really good reason beyond having to catch up on recordings.
>>109441133They’re going to have a lovey dovey week with Onii-chan at a love hotel, obviously! FUWAMOCO aren’t sick, they’re just sick of the loser Ruffians! Have a fun and lonely Valentine’s Day! They said it themselves, the Ruffians are going to have a lonely Valentine’s Day because they have nobody else. I hope you all enjoyed being insulted like that. Women are evil, and FUWAMOCO aren’t an exception.
How would you guys feel if they did a short twitter space on Valentine's instead?yes I know I'm coping
>>109441176they just said they prefer the cold
