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FUWAMOCO are not at home.They weren't home last night or this morning.That's why they can't stream.
>>109491715Mococo was busy waping Mori...
They made their tweet at 5 PM JST. That's right before when people usually start their Valentines plans. They probably went somewhere nice, similar to that cabin trip they went to with Nerissa for a day. It was probably sprung on them last minute by a friend. It was probably somewhere they've always dreamed about going.And so they're not home. That's why they can't stream or do a twitter space on Valentine's Day.
It's really not a good time to make a general But I Guess Misery loves company...
>>109491926Who's miserable? My oshi's are resting and I can happily look forward to their return
>>109491715Actually, there is something I have been meaning to tell you but I just couldn't...I think you should know, though.On Saturday morning I saw a guy leaving Fuwamoco's room...How should I put it, it was like they were ... "intimate."I'm sorry. Sorry to bring this up during the thread, but...
>>109491715>>109491851Yup, they are in the hospital right now.
did anyone ever translate mio's tarot card reading for fwmc?
>>109491715>>109491851>They weren't home last night or this morningu-ueh... please wait for me Raffians...
>>109492319>they're going to find a new opportunity>if they aren't careful they might hurt those around them>good luck with money>take risks, but avoid large bets>find love in unexpected places
>>109492767>find love in unexpected placesoh no
Behold! The WALL FWMC were stealth suspended/forced into a break once in the past, on May 2024, for being retarded and ruining their voices when they had a lot of recordings + important deadlines + a karaoke in taiwan.The main two reasons that made people suspicious about the "break" last time were the radical change in how FWMC used Twitter (they went from Twitter addicted hags that retweet and like lots of stuff all the time. to complete radio silence for several days), and the fact that the few tweets we did get had slight weird differences from the usual FWMC tweets, and that made people think they were written by mane-chan on FWMC’s behalf. This is a decent summary from back then https://warosu.org/vt/thread/75907638#p75919011The stealth suspension rrats were also later soft-confirmed when FWMC vaguely talked about that time period:>they talked about it being one of the most miserable moments of their hololive career>they vaguely talked about having a "fight" with management>they were only allowed to do homework or rest, they wanted to interact with the ruffians more, but they couldn't>they were feeling really lonely and isolated, the rest of advent tried to spend some time with them to cheer them upand these are the things we know about the current situation:>They are on a break>The reason they gave was that they need to rest and do homework>Their Twitter activity is completely different from what they usually do>Schizos found small differences between their latest tweet and the usual FWMC tweets>They posted a cat instagram story on RM with sad emojis (they only do this when they are really sad or going menhera)Doesn't it look eerily similar to the last time?To add to this, they reposted something on RM, so we know for a fact they are NOT taking a "break from the internet" or something, they just suddenly stopped using their Hololive Twitter account completely.This rrat answers all the menhera posts perfectly and effortlessly:>Why did they do it now and not a day or two laterThey were forced to take the break now by management.>Why not make a short stream?If the rrat is true, then they literally can't.>How do they know that they need exactly 1 week to rest?It's a forced break, they knew the lenght beforehand.>Why was the excuse they gave so generic and shitty?If the rrat is true, then they are not lying. We already know from last time that they will only be allowed to do homework or rest, no streams and no twitter activity until the break is over, so even if the explanation sounds disappointing, it'd be the truth.>Why did they not explain that they are suspended/forced into a break by management?They never talked about it openly the last time either, but it was pretty obvious.>Why would they miss such an important date? Do they hate the ruffians?The last time this happened they missed the first ever Advent off-collab, something FWMC were REALLY looking forward to. Do FWMC hate advent?>It doesn't make sense/management would never do that because it'd make FWMC look badWhen did management start caring about that? They forced FWMC to take a break and they didn't even let them join the first advent off-collab, that made people worry a lot about FWMC. It's on character for them to not care about optics too much.Now, *the* question.>Why would they get suspended/forced into a break now?Same as last time. They overextended themselves by doing too much homework and fucked up. They've been sleep deprived for a while, streaming chillaslop instead of sleeping, making tweets about how the moon is really shiny (a joke about how they stayed awake so late that the sun came out), and Fuwawa told us that Mococo fell asleep in the studio and staff had to call her to wake Mococo up. Maybe they overslept and missed an important deadline, or maybe staff were worried about the sleepy Mococo incident and talked to Mane-chan.Also, here's Mori explaining that "it's a shitty situation" and FWMC are having health issues https://youtu.be/9H1rzCSWm7k?t=8129
>>109491926I ain't going to let you shitposters bake
>>109492767Why did you lie?
>>109492319
mococo please, if you're being forced by your sister to desert your duty, give us a sign i know fuwawa is the only cheater and you're clean
>>109493350Mococo>Health>Good, will recover quicklyMiosha is a hack...
Fuwawa used her Fluffy appeal, Moco-chan used her Fuzzy Appeal and gigi used LoL for threats in the #MythValentine battle!In the end Fuwawa was the winner, but deep down the Ruffians wished, They both got choosen as winner hehe~ (Never separate!)BAU BAU
>>109493531You should learn from the jailbirds and create an account to larp as one of the paypigs
Fuwawa isn't that kind of woman.
smiles status?
>>109493665protected
Fuwawa is doing incredibly well in romantic streams, she won here and on Nerissa birthday. This woman has a lot of experience.
>>109493700
>>109493531Well if Mori isn't going to than I'll suck the mococock
>>109491851When I had a girlfriend, if I had waited until 5pm on Valentine’s Day to tell her what the plans were she would probably have stabbed me with a kitchen knife.
>>109493933kek
RUFFIANSWHERES THE FUWAWA WIN UPDATE WITH TODAYS TROPHY (moris pussy)?
>>109493933i would never a normie
>>109494038That's not a prize, that's a punishment.
>>109494145fag
>>109494038Working on it
>>109494038morri's pussy is all blue waffled with warts and crabs from the various indian homeless trannies she sleeps with
imagine
>>109494427Ina picked the green lesbian dyke baka
>>109494427the eye mask stays on during sex
>>109494246>Sent from the capital of rap, so you know I'm a thug>But Asian men get me higher than American drugs>Speaking of, I’m about to shoot up now>The machine that blows is enough to cause a fuckin' ruckus
Oh Newissa you're so good the way you assault my ears
>Repost of the Japanese card game tweet and nothing elseJust in case you need more evidence that the tweet yesterday was management.
cumming on newissa fat bird tits! not my first choice but with fuwawa gone it will have to do
SIGNS OF LIFE
>>109494855nothing else? they made a valentines day post
>>109494868Management. Fuwamoco would have done a quote tweet.
>>109492940BAUSED
This is great, everything is really great.
>>109494863>not my first choiceEXCUSE ME???
>>109494931Yeah that's my point, that post was management. Can you ever imagine FUWAMOCO only saying Happy Valentine's Day and nothing else when they've made clear in the past Valentine's Day is a special holiday for them and us?Mococo definitely fucked up at the studio, probably collapsed or something and now they can't tweet.
>>109494940you're right. they're getting their pussies plapped at the moment.
Updated
I was about to follow them home, but nah… that’s probably a terrible idea.
>>109495070Kek
>>109495070BAU BAU
>>109494717HELLO??
Was there actually a likespree yesterday? My post happened to become one of the top posts (looking at views and on an alt) but I didn't get a like, which almost never happens if they actually like other postsi dont particularly care about being skipped, it's happened before, I'm just wondering if they were actually active on twitter after the post
>>109495070how does she do it
>>109492923All this cope to avoid the most obvious answer is hilarious. The only real question is whether or not they'll LLD like Nimi or have it accidentally revealed like Saba.
>>109495070she's too strong...we're gonna get waped
>>109495020that's last year nigger. there's no more them and you. they found someone else. you wouldn't have imagined a last minute cancellation either, but in reality they never planned on spending it together.
>>109495113She's the perfect woman
>>109495112No like spree. The shitposters who talk about likes is usually bluffing
>>109495112No they haven't been on Twitter
>>109495081They'd probably either wape you or spend the next 2 months on leave panicking and finding a new home if you did.
>>109495070Fuwawa may have "won" but Bae is the one actually making chocolates with her tonight...
>>109494868
>>109495175Fuwawa has other plans
>>109495182weird grem
>>109495182Pebbles are so lucky to be so loved, Biboo literally just showing hole on stream for free
>>109495081ToT
>>109495112>Was there actually a likespree yesterday?No. But I did get a like shortly before they posted their week-long break tweet.
>>109495261Wth am I looking at?
>>109495304the bibussy
>>109495261forgive me lord jesus
>>109495261HOLY CRAP she has a naked toggle?
>Biboo crashedIs VRchat OBS's nemesis?
>>109495341Why is she so short ToT?
>>109491715How do you know where they are?
>>109495095oh gosh Newissa's voice is so tender the way it caresses my ears
>>109493665Protected
>>109495261>shows pussy>"internet" issuesTotal Management Death.
>>109495341You would not could not should not with bibhu
>>109493700>>109495070Mococo is recovering after collapsing at the studio while Fuwawa is out plowing big titted bimbos with her Fuwawang...
You can listen to Nerissa crunchy munchy asmr too
Did cover just give up on holoearth or something? They had advent and FWMC shilling it hard and then now they prepare it doesn't exist and slashed all the shop item prices significantly.
FWMC should have tried the "broken internet" excuse that Biboo is using instead of the "health" excuse, everyone is falling for it
If I don't get a heart on their Valentine's members post by the end of the month, I am oshihenning.
>>109495123>Their LLDDo you think they...... you know..... date ONE guy at the same time??? Fucking IMAGINE it, dude.... I know Fuwawa would be up to it, for sure, but I can't see Mococo doing it. Especially when Fuwawa starts making moves on her too during it.
all of the girls streaming right now are single
Funny how if this has happened to FUWAMOCO Mococo would already be crying and the stream would be cancelled. Somehow Biboo makes it work and recovers because she knows it is important to pebbles and it is important to her.
>>109495787bloodraven and homobeggar, the absolute worst type of fan
So what happens if Mococo has to go on an extended hiatus? Does Fuwawa stay in break too? Does she do fes mc without her sister? AI Mococo? Streams?
cute
>>109496209Fuwawa's seiyuu just plays both characters for a while. This already happened once.
>731 comments on the doggy pack post>Unit 731it all makes sense.
>>109496054yeah, like me
>>109495261I don't see this if I rewind the current streamDid she take down the one it was from?
>>109496438pubes doko?
FUWAMOCO always thinks about the Ruffians, even when we're apart
Why is there a guy talking to himself?Reminds me of when I faked an asthma attack to go home early and ended up in the hospital. There was a lady there talking to herself too.
>>109496464She was showing off her nose and the camerea thingy glitched and went inside her body, what you're seeing is the inside of her neck and shoulders. It was a split second of a frame.
I was doing well on my diet this year so far but missing them on Valentine's day is about to push me to stress eat and gain it all back in a weekend.
>>109496602if you can erase your 6 week deficit in 2 days you weren't doing well
>>109495998they skipped hearting lots of posts and never went back to finish giving hearts on certain streams after they gave their favorites one. now they don't even give hearts on the asmr streams after they got their boyfriend.
>>109496725I understand them lying about looking at Twitter because that's thousands of tweets but not even bothering to give hearts for their birthday stream even to just members is terrible.
>>109496602I did the same thing. My motivation is completely shot
>>109496864Cute
>>109496679I've been losing 1.5 pounds a week and can easily put on 10 in a day or two if I eat until full.
>>109497099there is no fucking way you can eat 35k+ calories in a day, your body wouldn't even process that
>The man obsessed schizo is LARPing as a fat Ruffian again and responding to himselfGuess your whore oshi isn't doing anything for Valentine's.
>taking a week off from streams>participating in hololive card game news show in 2 daysWhat the fuck am I missing here?
>>109497367It's pre recorded.
>>109496890>not even bothering to give hearts for their birthday stream even to just members is terrible.you'll get pinned and heart'd again some day, sneeze timestamper.
>>109497302>Guess your whore oshi isn't doing anything for Valentine's.anon do you even watch FWMC...?
>>109496517"We're always thinking about you"
>>109497302I think his Oshi has joined the NijiGTA serverSo yeah she's a whore
Bibhu is the perfect child
>>109497302Terrible choice of words.
>Fuwawa won just by process of elimation>you settled??Fuwawa...
>>109497391Where does it say it's pre-recorded? It even says 'live' in the thumbnail.
>>109497672They say it now when it's pre-recorded?
>>109497743Well the HoloMyth speed dating said it was pre-recorded in the description. This stream says live in the thumbnail
>>109497672The Japanese use "live" interchangeably with performance.
>>109493933>if I had waited until 5pm on Valentine’s Day to tell herThat's not what was said. They tweeted happy valentine's day at 5 pm JST. That was probably right before they went out to eat dinner with whoever they were with. They felt a little guilty, and so they tweeted that to their fans.
If they really canceled Valentines and all other streams but show up in a live shill stream for the fucking card game in Japanese, I'm going to be really angry.
I think Fuwawa is pretty sweet and greatI think Mococo is very cute and thoughtfulI think everyone should come to love them more
>>109497784Ah okay. I wasn't sure since I'm just relying on the translator on my phone since I don't speak JP, I wasn't sure if it had said it was pre-recorded somewhere or not.
>>109497829Mococo is very cute, but she is definitely not thoughtful.
>>109497775Oh, you're right, it's specified for the speed dating
Door dashing a biggie bag from Wendy's on Valentine's day... I should just fucking kill myself
their next stream
>>109498115I told you they'd come back with a collab. Right out of Gura's playbook. They are the exact same as her.
>>109498115>EN management still trying to force Advent VS JusticeFUCKING STOP
good news!! one of my oshis did a valentines stream at the end after all i don't feel so depressed anymore , but yeah leaving this threadbest wishes but i am out
>>109498115is this for the comic book?
There won't be any solo streams until fes/expo so they can let the skipping Valentine's drama go away and deflect to that event while farming supers. Doubt they ever mention this.
>>109498115
>>109497829BAU BAU!
>>109498115raora...
I wanna bang the fuck out of a Fuwawa cosplayer at fes
>>109498115it's that prerecorded too? it's on their bday.
>>109498494Raora is in there. I doubt she can settle her visa issues in a week
>>109498494>it's on their bday.huh?
>>109498494Probably. Cover is moving to prerecorded streams so that they have more control over content and talent schedules.
>>109498215Why is EN management so obsessed with "lore"
>>109498494>birthdayAnon they are never doing a stream over there again. Just cancel the sub.
>>109498565the chuunis are the ones who applied for the jobs...
>>109498578never mentioned anything about watching over there.
>>109498115Are they gonna have Geoguessr coaches for this like the chess stream
>>109498115>3 US vs 3 EUOh no Adventrix...
>>109498494Last year they played Minecraft with advent on they birthday, and as usual, Mococo was asleep.
>>109498565>>109498215fuck off you should be grateful that you get so many extra projects paid for and pushed by managementand the motion comics are kino
Justice fan's obsession with shipping is disturbing. gives me heebie jeebies.
>>109498494>RaoraIt's very likely
>>109498493
A word to the Wuffians, if you are somehow deluding yourself that things will get better this year, remember that isn't going to happen at all even with this forced rest period. Set your expectations at zero and take what you can get. Even ignoring everything unknown we have>expo/fes>post expo/fes sickness>World Tour recordings throughout the year>EN Reco Season 3>forced shilling of the hololive rhythm game>anniversary recordings>EN concert recordings>holo summer and other member's 3D live recordings>holiday and new year recordings>26+ voice pack recordings
>>109498614>Mococo was asleep through some collab with JustshitMogogo is so BAUSED it's unreal.
>>109496890>I understand them lying about looking at Twitter because that's thousands of tweetsIs it really lying when the twitter algorithm is shit and won't show them everything?
>>109498769they only see their select favorites
>>109498450kek BAUSED. how did ollie reply?
>>109498661based. I am a MocoGigi shipper
>>109498983MocoGigi should rub their cunnies together and Gigi should encourage Moco-chan in illicit sex.
>>109498983For me it's BratTea
>>109499035belieb
>>109497232>>109497099Nah it'll mostly be food and water weight, not necessarily fat and muscle. Especially true if they were doing a keto diet>>109496602>>109497060Stay strong bros, if you've been doing well until now, you can keep the momentum going I won't lie, even I'm tempted to break open a drink tonight and fuck up my progress
>>109499101
>>109498494It's at 10 AM JST.So don't worry. They'll have plenty of time later that day to celebrate their bday with whoever they're with right now too.
>>109498450Why is Japan so shit at teaching history?
>>109498869That's how the twitter algorithm is. Like a tweet from a person one time and they keep showing up in the FYP. Twitter won't show you other related tweets and will push political ragebait on top of it all
>>109499585Aka that's why their entire feed is tekzi and the tracer
I looked at the Saba thread, and last year, when Gura ghosted her fans for Valentines day, they had a meltdown and were really upset.This year, Saba did the exact same thing again, and no one over there even seems to care. There's no passion there at all. Everyone has accwpted that their oshi doesn't love them or even think about them.This is our future.
>>109499532indonesia isnt even real
>>109499101it's wild that a twitter artist basically willed this ship into exist by themself
>>109499585I wonder what they think of the elon tweets
>>109499674The passionate ones are on hlgg. vt is just a containment thread for them
>>109499585I'm actually getting political ragebait tweets now but IN JAPANESE which is fucking hilarious. Mainly shit about China and immigrants. It's an interesting and refreshing change from the political ragebait in English, it's about completely different and foreign issues. I guess these algos really are destroying society.
>>109499674Fuwawa would wape the wuffians into submission if they ever thought such a thing.
>>109499748>It's an interesting and refreshing change from the political ragebait in EnglishHow is it different? Shit about immigrants is a thing throughout the world now
>>109499812I mean it's different because it's about Japan and their particular situation. Not about invading Mexicans or ICE or whatever. I haven't liked any Japanese political shit obviously, I guess twitter just saw me liking Japanese artists and stuffs and decided I'm Japanese now. I haven't seen stuff about America for months now.
I wish FUWAMOCO were singing to us now. I feel really down in the dumps.
Why is anon such a whore?
They lost the entire a team...
>>109500200FWMC trained me to be that way
>>109499729They're not any better. They're just ignoring that she ghosted them again this year
>>109500293wtf are you talking about?
>>109499674I spent some time in the /ggg/ threads back in the day and /baubau/ is 100 times better than that shithole
>>109500457The groomer paypigs
>>109500547We had some pretty good moments though.And one thing back then that was better than here was that we never talked about men.
>>109499748>I'm actually getting political ragebait tweets now but IN JAPANESE which is fucking hilarious. Mainly shit about China and immigrants.That's exactly what I was talking about. In addition to the Japanese stuff, my FYP is currently getting flooded with the South Koreans feuding with SEA.>I guess these algos really are destroying society.They ruined at least 2 generations.
>>109499748>>109500673odd, I am only getting elon shit
>>109500673Why the fuck is it that I like a single Gundam or Armored Core tweet and my feed is flooded with both but I've liked thousands of Hololive tweets and fanart, and yet Hololive fanart doesn't seem to make it into my feed?
>>109500653You're forgetting about when they used to bring up Null like how fags mention Andy here
>>109499878some Japanese ruffians and artists I follow retweet stuff about immigrants doing stupid shit in Japan with replies full of "this is the end of Japan" and "we have to get rid of them now"
All the bad feelings and cloudy thoughts are swarming me. I didn't even think I was that hyped for Valentine's but it's absence is tearing at me.
>>109500839wapeeee
>>109500919Thankfully I don't think I see that, it's just regular algo shit. I mean I guess it could be them liking it but I don't see retweets from anyone I know or follow. It was the same for English ragebait shit.
>>109500825Except that was very rare and it was only people she worked with. The only time we ever talked about fans was whenever that one guy that used a posiedon pfp, I forget his name, did something mega autistic like upload a youtube video of himself singing to her or trying to groom that one underage Gura impersonator.
>>109500839yeah mine
>>109500839that's hot. if I was a jailor in charge of Advent I'd abuse my power and get Fuwawa paizuri.
>>109500839Why are they so... vulnerable...?
>>109501010LMAO yeah I remember that. It was Bjoarn
>>109500839Who cares?
>>109500547Every Holo split is the exact same. It's a coordinated effort by small corpos and jealous indies and their fans to shit on Hololive. If you stay in every Hololive split for a week, you'll see the exact same shit.>Looping about men>Cuckposting>DoxxshitAnd despite what people say, it wasn't always like this, it got way worse after the site went down.
>>109500823The algo wants to destabilize the world
>>109501200Despite what people think, AI isn't sentient and even if it were, it's not malice, it's greed. Grift content gets more clicks and makes more money. It's more profitable in the short term to destroy the world than save it and humans are all about short term gains over sustainability.
Just think this time last year we had just had the kino sex with wuffians Valentine's vn stream
What's that? You're lonely on Valentine's day because your oshi abandoned you? (Again)Guess who you can rely on no matter what?Guess who is back for a second night in a row to finish the job and collect every viewer's heart in addition to every star?That's right. The greatest to ever do it.https://youtube.com/watch?v=MgtPcl3Rw58
>Advent geoguessr battleOoh nice>vs JusticeUgh pass
Unarchived Karaokehttps://gofile.io/d/Cbqwxq
>>109501343thanks pebble
>>109501305We were gonna get ear licking and kisses this year but it all got fucked up
>>109501086Yeah, that was the name, lmao
>>109501343sex with diamond dogs
>>109501343
Do people really dislike advent vs justice?
>>109501275>Despite what people think, AI isn't sentient and even if it were, it's not malice, it's greed.I just wanted to memeBut we already know the algo is designed to stoke division because of zuck, it's both greed and malice
>>109501445I dislike everything but Advent if I had to be honest
>>109501445I like it because Advent mogs them everytime
>>109501445I dislike FUWAMOCO betraying us on Valentine's day.
#FUWAMOCOHappy Valentine's Day (in NA time) FUWAMOCOI wanted to go the extra mile & do something special to celebrate my own Valentines!I've always felt that VDay is not just a couples holiday, but a day where we should express our love for the special people in our livesI know that today wasn't how you wanted Valentine's to go this year, and of course I missed you today, but more than that I just hope things are OK and you were able to have a good Valentine's Day yourselves. You deserve to have a special Valentine's too, not feel sad or lonelyAnd even though I can't spend the day with you, Valentine's will always be a day where I'm reminded of you and how much joy both of you have brought into my life And that's especially true when it comes to Valentine's Day itself lol. I don't think I could ever forget just how happy I've felt these past couple years on this day thanks to you I know you don't like chocolate, but I got peanut butter and strawberry flavors this year, so hopefully that's ok They had blue and pink packaging! I had to get them No pon-de-rings this year either, but I got the same donut that I got last year! It's one of my favoritesThank you for all that you do FUWAMOCO! You've left a permanent mark on my life and I'll always be grateful for the time I've been able to share with you. Even when I can't spend this day together with you, it's you who stays on my mind for this special holiday I hope you can be my Valentine I love you Fuwawa! I love you Mococo! Happy Valentine's Day FUWAMOCO!
>>109501445I'm not a Pebble, but I prefer Advent-only collab(I have nothing against Justice)
>>109501445I have an essay post about this actually but I'm making a tuna melt at the moment. Give me a bit.
>>109501478It was over when the political grifters started making tons of money
>>109500823I hate when this happens. I can never like shit.
>>109501343thanks pebble, I was too sad to watch anything and missed it
>>109501577no_jetplane is almost as bad as purityschizo, except he has money.
>>109501343She LOVES US
>>109501641That ramped up afterward, it was over before
>>109501577they're spending it how they wanted. sorry lonely ruffian.
>>109501577This is really sweet and man I feel right there with the guy. It's a shitty situation all around to dedicate all this thought and love to someone and it turns out what you thought meant something to them is nothing at all. I hope everyone is taking care of themselves. Your life is worth protecting too.
>>109501445I dislike most management forced groups for the simple reason that it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Hololive and what people like about it. To be fair, that's not an issue unique to Hololive, literally every company on Earth has a disconnect between the people running the company and the people actually working for the company but that's another conversation. Hololive is built off of streams. Streams are how most fans find the talents, but more importantly streams are also how talents find each other. Numerous other essayposts have been made about the importance of streams so I won't go too in depth here but basically many great and long lasting moments from Hololive have come from streams, those are the foundation for the magic of Hololive and they in turn, are what make concerts more special. That's one of the reasons I miss having a big unified Minecraft server that so many people used to play on, because it allowed for interactions between Holos. It gave us many cool interactions like Sora's famous "So you're an enemy", the Aqua Shion Neighbor Wars, and all the various construction companies. It's always a treat for the audience to see girls interact with each other especially if they don't usually or haven't before.What management does with these collabs and forced groupings is they just take what they think will make money and sell and throw it against the wall, with no regard for chemistry or what makes Hololive great. Umisea, HoloWitches, Advent VS Justice, these are all forced pairings that originate from management just trying to make things happen, and as such, they are artificial and don't last long and don't do well. None of those can hold a candle to say Advent alone, or Shiranui Kensetsu which many people say was the highlight of 4th Fes. They met in Minecraft streams, streamed a lot together, and eventually formed their own group with their own songs. When 4th Fes rolled around, Suisei was on Day 2 while the rest were on Day 1. Everyone was disappointed but of course you can't have someone on both days. So Shiraken did their song as the last song of Day 1 and in the middle, Suisei suddenly appeared and sang with them. It was absolute kino and magic and the crowd was roaring even before she popped up because they knew. It really lent to the feeling of idol magic and "anything can happen". I think FUWAMOCO are aware of this which is why they've made such an effort to have Advent collabs whenever they can. Advent is definitely the closest EN gen and one of the closest Hololive gens overall and that's because they constantly stream together. And then when you see them all on stage together singing and dancing, it's like "Fuck yeah, they're really doing it together." But the audience has to see that first to buy into it. It's not exactly like the toddler mindset of "If I didn't see it, it didn't happen" but fans like to be involved. Of course Holos can absolutely bond and form friendships offstream, but that doesn't always work out like Marine and Ao, with fans even having a negative reaction to it. Although that could also be because Marine rarely streams anymore so every rare stream being a collab hurt her. (See how streams are still important?)Things like Umisea and HoloWitches fail because it's just Cover taking members and seeing if they will go together, without regard to the history of the girls or actual reality. They're not the only ones to do this, Niji tried to make two of their organs sisters and that failed horribly. It's much better to build something up from streams first and then have it become an idol unit like Big 3, SMOK, Shiraken, etc. Anyways Advent VS Justice sucks, if they want to do something with it, they should let the girls experiment first. For example I think a "small bau bau" Autofister vs FUWAMOCO would have way more chemistry and staying power than Advent vs Justice and I don't even like GG.
>>109502608Forgot my soundpost, just look at this fucking KINO. Listen to that crowd. Umisea could fucking never.
>>109502608>I think FUWAMOCO are aware of this which is why they've made such an effort to have Advent collabs whenever they can.Indeed. Out of all the Holos, they seem to have the best understanding of what actually made Hololive successful in the first place. It's baffling how the suits still don't get it>Of course Holos can absolutely bond and form friendships offstream, but that doesn't always work out like Marine and AoGoing overboard with shipping is what causes a problem>Things like Umisea and HoloWitches fail because it's just Cover taking members and seeing if they will go together, without regard to the history of the girls or actual reality.Umisea at least made sense conceptually, throw all the aquatic-themed members into a group. We had a more organic group with Holotori, they had some existing chemistry, fan memes, good song and dance, etc. but management fumbled it for whatever reason. Maybe because it wasn't a forced meme group they could take credit for
This is going to be a long week.
>>109502608It's a nice analysis. I agree that many management pairings and groups are forced, and they usually doesn't work, but I don't think it's that bad of a thing either. I 100% agree that it's tragic that there isn't anything like the old minecraft server, or rather something like it that everyone can just boot up and have fun and work with anyone else playing at the time. I think the closest approximations have been the modded servers like Pekora's dragon server, Botan's coin server, Watame's casino server, or the hardcore server event that Pekora made for Aqua's graduation. They were all nice, but they don't last that long, I suppose by design. The kensetsu arc in the 2nd JP server was, I think, my favorite.So in absence of all that, I don't think the occasional management project is that bad of a thing, although I never got into holowitches or anything, and I know that didn't last, so I can't speak to the financial viability of those kinds of groups.
>>109503255*and they usually don't workJesas. My brain is fried. This is the worst week in a ling time.
>>109503177Umisea was literally "Let's get the two biggest numbers in JP and EN and put them together." Meanwhile Gura and Shion, who had collabs together despite the language barrier, who were both cunny, who had many clippable moments of EN and JP Holos finding their hymen item in Minecraft, who STILL interact to this day in their new lives again despite a language barrier and being in different countries, never got taken advantage of because management doesn't watch streams.
I think this has really made me hate holidays. I feel like from now on, I'm just going to be anxious leading up to them, wondering if I'm going to be disappointed by them in a way that will break my heart again, like today.
>>109503384Funny post-gura and post-shion are doing a collab merch together now without any corporation pushing it. suits really don't understand the importance of interpersonal relationships between the streamers involved
>>109503386FWMC are fantastic side oshis but having them as your primary oshis seems miserable to me. You should enjoy them when they're around but don't trust their schedules or kill yourself waking up for their crazy stream hours
>>109503384The thing is, I think UmiSea indirectly lead to the creation of both shinkiro and III. It forced Gura to work with Marine, who then wanted to make a duet original with Gura. After that was successful, Marine wanted to work with another non-JP member and chose Kobo. So I think UmiSea was a great success, just not due to anything that was made for it directly.
>>109503177Did anyone ever talk about why holotori didn't take off? There was so much hype with that holotori dance but nothing came out of it
>>109503177>Going overboard with shipping is what causes a problemI disagree. Fake and artificial pairings are the problem, if the girls have chemistry with each other, the shipping will last as long as they themselves tolerate it. I really think Marine's lack of streams hurt her. Noel Flare went for years and though it had it's critics, it ultimately ended when they both agreed to move on. Now Flare and Ina and Noel and Subaru are chugging along nicely, again all based on on stream interaction. Micomet is still fine too. >>109503462Marine Gura didn't really lead to anything beside that though. Same with Marine Kobo.
>>109503484Kiara tried to do a ton of stuff but management are Japanese and complete retards and think talents don't know what they are doing and shouldn't be allowed to make decisions. She barely was able to even get the holotori song video released and she basically moved on to other stuff. Paraphrasing a lot, but she was the main one that tried to make it happen.
>>109503386>He fell for the holiday memeDo ruffian really? Just treat it like any other day on the calendar
>>109503384adding to >>109503177>Umisea at least made sense conceptually, throw all the aquatic-themed members into a group.Ina and Gura already had some bonding with Marine behind the scenes, and Gura's oshi was Aqua, so I can see why they thought it'd work. Then they added Chloe and dropped Gura and Ina from it
>>109502608>That's one of the reasons I miss having a big unified Minecraft server that so many people used to play on, because it allowed for interactions between HolosThat shit saved me during the lockdown. Watching pekora commit war crimes was comforting
>>109503511Kind of sad because that unit had potential
>>109503522Anyone who watches streams would know that with the possible exception of Shion and Chloe, the oshi thing doesn't really translate into great long lasting content. Kiara and Pekora, Nerissa and Kiara, Marine and Fuwawa, Ayame and Noel, something about meeting your oshi in person. I think it's because maybe you build up an image of them in your head but when they become your coworker things change. Not to say that they all hate each other or anything, it's just not a guaranteed success. And like I said, behind the scenes bonding can happen but it's better for the audience if it happens onstream. We know FUWAMOCO have hung out with Suisei a lot but there aren't a lot of FUWAMOCO and Suisei streams and clips. If tomorrow, a new unit with FUWAMOCO and Suisei were announced, the majority of fans would be confused and ask why. Whereas if FUWAMOCO and Polka and Koyori became a unit, people would know they've had interactions before.
Please remember to say a prayer for Mocochan's full recovery. Everyone is worried sick about her and it cannot be her time to go to the fireflies yet. Please I know some of you are bitter jaded antis and ex ruffians but do this for me and do it for her.
>>109503522Now I'm reminded how shit all the Umisea songs were. Some of the worst holo ever put out
>>109503499>if the girls have chemistry with each other, the shipping will last as long as they themselves tolerate it. Noel Flare went for years and though it had it's critics, it ultimately ended when they both agreed to move on. Now Flare and Ina and Noel and Subaru are chugging along nicely, again all based on on stream interaction. Micomet is still fine too.That's kind of what I mean. The overbearing shippers annoyed Noel Flare, lead to Ame not wanting to be Gura's sidekick, things like that. Micomet made sure to nip it in the bud with the business tee tee angle.
>>109503649I don't know, there's pretty stiff competition with Blue Journey, every Mori original besides End of a Life, every FAKE TYPE song, and every Flare original (sorry Flare).
>>109503649looking back, it has its charmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOFOmeHAmfk
>>109503499Yeah, but I mean, shinkiro and iii are great songs and so it doesn't really need to lead to anything else. Also, if management only ever prioritized natural pairings and groups, that would lead directly to accusations of clique favoritism.
>>109503518Yeah, well, they don't do that. And so if they aren't celebrating it with us, they're celebrating it with someone else. Just look at how many holidays Gura and Fauna spent with their fans while also claiming to love those holidays.
>>109503691What's wrong with Blue Journey? I think the songs were great even though the project and concert flopped.
>>109503625>the oshi thing doesn't really translate into great long lasting content>I think it's because maybe you build up an image of them in your head but when they become your coworker things change.That's obvious now, but it was uncharted territory back then>it's better for the audience if it happens onstreamAgreed>If tomorrow, a new unit with FUWAMOCO and Suisei were announced, the majority of fans would be confused and ask whyYeah, the spotify wrapped and other offstream stuffs wouldn't be enough, but I also think Suisei has a more normie fanbase now
>>109503714To me the best outcome is like the one at >>109502655 not just a song but a moment. A moment that makes you believe in idol magic. Another one would be when Azki and Suisei sung together for the first time. And then again with Last Frontier. That storyline is so good, much better than anything management can come up with. Nobody is crying over III or Shinkiro. Nobody is picking that as a highlight of a concert. FUWAMOCO covering Bluerose would have more impact than that shit.>Also, if management only ever prioritized natural pairings and groups, that would lead directly to accusations of clique favoritism.First of all those accusations already exist and always will, so it's not something they need to worry about. And anyways it's better than them shilling shit like HoloX who just got their first Gen Live but barely speak to each other, and the whole DEV_IS branch. They went all in on Regloss but Ao had better chemistry with Marine than any of her genmates. And who would you rather see Iroha perform with, literally any of her genmates, or AZKi? Even the JPs would say AZKi.Onscreen chemistry absolutely matters.
>>109503625Shion and Chloe was pretty successful and they're still friends. But yeah, usually what happens is that they lose the oshi/fan dynamic and just become friends.
>>109503696They're ok if you're watching the video with it but having it come up in the shuffle is always an instant skip for meThis was their only good song though https://youtu.be/2v_BFL-kuWs?si=NdLIrLvSg_GppIcg
Please I'm begging you please pray for mogogo right now even for a moment
>>109503858Did they perform in a 3D together? I remember ina playing the drums for this song
>>109503640Sick? Yeah, they're sick alright. Sick of the Ruffians.They chose to spend valentine's with someone else. They're not home or else they would've streamed.
How will you react when they come back and immediately go back into a homework is good and we don't get burnout loop?
>>109503823>That storyline is so good, much better than anything management can come up with.In a roundabout way, the storyline is so good because of management fuckery. they didn't let AZKi and Suisei talked to each other and made the whole audience suspect there was some underlying drama
>>109503909An exasperated sigh and some shitposting aught to do it.
>>109503909If something genuinely bad happened to them/their health then maybe this could actually be their wakeup callThat's at least the optimistic spin I'm trying to put on this
>What a coincidence you'd tweet today, almost feels like you remembered my birthday. Of course that's not the case, but it's a nice thought. Hopefully you'll leave that filthy company before I get even older than I already am, otherwise I'll be too old to support you properly.kek man is still going strong
It's kuro-chan....
https://youtu.be/NX1ZCKJ67dc>MV: Kanauru even though Advent has TerribleJoe?
>>109501577man it's bad enough they skipped out on Valentine's, we don't gotta bully the lonely Ruffiansor at least put that energy towards this motherfucker >>109503965
>>109503965I swear to Christ their antis have to be among the most mentally ill out there. Not because of them doing anything to hurt them, but because they all have lost grips with reality and are somehow completely clueless that no one wants them around. Most of them are fucking muted and still post crap like that even though it will never be seen.
>>109503885They did during the holo summer concert, and it Gura on the drums
>>109503823>Nobody is crying over III or Shinkiro.I think maybe you just weren't a chumbud or ichimi?Shinkiro was incredibly emotional when the MV released, especially because by that time, everyone could kind of already tell Gura was fading away from us and no one knew why. Looking back, it almost feels like Marine's personal send-off to her, and its story's ending literally foreshadowed Gura's departure from hololive only a little more than a year later.You're right about iii. It's a fun song, so it's not really a tear-jerker, but you're dead wrong about Shinkiro. That song made a ton of people cry when it came out. It's also one of Marine's best originals and it's the best song that exemplifies Gura's specific singing style. The fact it's the only hololive original city pop song is also a huge achievement. It's really good, and you seem kind of dumb, because it reinforces what you were saying anyway: the best things come from the talents themselves working together, and not mandated collabs.
Please stop the Gura talk it's making me sad
it's always nice to see the newer ruffians being so enthusiastic on the tag.
>>109503484A-chan killed it
>>109504036Gura was on the drums because she couldn't stand for very long because she was 3rd semester pregnant at the time.
I miss you femruffian I hope you are ok out there in the world
>>109504417I honestly believe that could have been true
>>109496517>>109497550if only they cared enough about us to take care of themselves and not cancel valentines day because of it
>>109503909They should play Burnout 3 Takedown
god I need a duck in me tonight
I don't think they actually appreciate us as much as they say they do.
I wish they kept a free chat open during this time so that I could send my suicide note
this showed up on my For You. so this is the kind of comedy that FuwaMoco likes?https://x.com/baris250209/status/2022889102694387878
I like Asian chicks with huge knockers so I always appreciate when Fuwawa puts them on my for you page
Hey ruffians!Follow-up divegrass post!The roster poll is up to see which players will step down (if any). If you haven't already done so, please vote here using the poll link below:https://forms.gle/33qoPZ7B4rSjMDLK7Feel free to suggest any soundbites, player ideas, music, or anything that represents /baubau/!Player ideas from before:>Scooter Mococo>Flasher Fuwawa>Newissa Wavencwoft>Fuwawa 3:16Also, ideas for what the suggested players look like are welcome!Bau bau!!
>>109500839>weeliterally means someone is peeing into bibhu's open mouth... yab
>>109505219how about this as a banner? >>109498839
>>109501445I do kinda like it. I like it a lot more than most things management came up with. In the end it's just basic gen vs gen and it can be a fun way to have competitions of all sorts. I also like that Advent are the bad guys because it's a good excuse to give them "evil" looking stuff including outfits, which often look great.
>>109495123>>109495146>>109499517>>109503889no anon you see FWMC are deliberately ruining their reputation by canceling their streams (streams they planned and announced beforehand just to then cancel btw) and also fucking over unrelated talent like Mori and her charity stream because they need to go on a secret dateit's all so obvious how can you not see it??
does planet-sized refer to Shiori's boobs
>>109505284Yeah, definitely works as a banner. I think it can be used as a billboard too.
>>109505414Why bother giving a serious answer to an anti?Or maybe I just can’t read sarcasm
>>109505496Yep and her big ass too
>>109505565anon...
>>109505582I thought Mococo has the biggest butt in Advent.
>>109505496No, it refers to her body after drinking multiple bottles of chocolate syrup
>>109505601Mococo is a little puppy with a big butt, shiori is just big in general
>>109505496How is her first orisong? I wouldn't give her a listen or view but curious
>>109505496it refers to her belly after I make it bigger
>>109505673it's not out yet. >>109504019
>>109505681Are you going to feed her more chocolate syrup?
How many wuffians have Fuwawa devoured these two nights?
>>109505414They're very hungry puppies. And their friend surprised them with a trip to somewhere they had always dreamed of going. They said in their post that they hope you forgive them.
>>109505717She is going on a wampage
>>109504876
>>109504353how
tomorrow's Monday. I wanna die.
>>109504876is that the fucking Pacific Rim soundtrack
>>109506020I had a pretty good weekend, watched like 4 different sweet valentines streams and they will make up for circumstances making them miss theirs next week, all good
>>109506020getsuyoubi
>>109505997Because she's a retarded unityfag
She's so pretty... what do I say to her?
>>109506139Please WAPE me, Fuwawa!!
>>109506020https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-j_SMn8RRc
>>109503449I wish it was that easy, but as much as I can enjoy streams from other girls, none of them feel like an oshi to me. I'm only really invested emotionally in FWMC, so I'll just continue to be crushed by the lows and lifted by the highs.
>>109506044>tomatoesstop torturing them...!
>>109505997probably picrel, but I think the problem was something else
So about that monthly doggy pack wallpaper...
>>109506249it's beyond torture>meatballs contain onions >cheese>western bread full of enough sugar to be classified as cake
Thoughts?
>>109506323Here it is
>>109506343when did Subaru get big oppai.
>>109506347good times
>>109506347bibhu-chan
>>109506347that blonde chick with long hair is a beauty.
>>109506378>that blonde chickthat's a dog
>>109506343THEY LOVE US
>>109506376*BiJOU
>>109506378
>>109506390The cutest and sexiest dog
>>109506347Bibhu and Mococo need rape correction
>>109506045KANADEEEE
>>109506553All women are helpless against a cock.
https://youtu.be/CSoHBIoM3kA
>>109506907I never thought I'd say this, but it really hurts seeing them or listening to their voices right now.
>>109506735True.