go back >>109561699

>>109562247
That's supremely fucked up.

>>109562364
Lick that boot more vspnigger

>>109562247
Is this how brave is planning on paying for everything?

>>109562247
by "love", you mean that they love farming the image and fanbase of the VSPO members for money and engagement, right? cus there's no way they are an actual fan if they are unaware of the no R18 "rule", as stupid as it is

newfags artist need some lesson, literal nothingburger, comeback again if anyone graduate from vspo

Based VSPO!
>>109562247
>>109562488
>>109562526
Unbased porn addicts, you all need God

>R-18 art of anime girls
NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT, HERE'S A $30K FINE, FUCK YOU
>hire whore talents and let them live with male streamers
YABBA DABBA DOO!!!!!

>>109562729
>R-18 arts actually exist
>2nd one is just your own fanfiction
No wonder they only took action for the 1st one

>>109562779
>2nd one is just your own fanfiction
lol

>>109562779
>2nd one is just your own fanfiction
The streamer house is real

>>109562247
Get fuck tourist artist nigger, they don't love the girl but jump in any popular content if it brings in money

>no one posting said lewds

>>109562849
Like Brave

>>109562247
BASED BASED BASED
follow Vspo! derivative works guidelines or vspo_legal is gonna get your criminal ass

>>109562779
>he doesn't know about the streamer house
OH NO NO NO NO

>>109563358
>>109562819
so sad when people can't distinguish fictional online character from real life

>>109562247
Jezas

>>109562779
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES VSPOKEKS TELL THEMSELVES

>>109563577
Cope

>>109562247
this is gonna snowball into slightly sensitive works not being allowed at all.
artists will stop drawing fan arts for this company and it will fade into obscurity, fated to remain niche forever until the company bankrupts

>>109563577
amongst the big three jap corpo vspo has the least distinction between the avatar and the person behind. you can argue there's some level of RP for nijijp and holojp, but vspo is literally just irl girls with an anime skin.

>>109562247
Well, I meant... They have a public guideline on fanarts. Whoever this artist guy is violated it so they took action. I'm not seeing an issue.
It's arguable whether their guideline was too strict, but like UmaMusume, it's their rights (and in this case their members support it, too)

>>109562247
>brave is actual black company
always has been anon

cuckiest corpo trying to act virtuous

>>109564141
>virtuous
It's greed, simple as

Reminder that brave used to be known as unlimited, you know, that company who performed VA replacement of game-bu after the original members called them out for shit working environment/low pay.

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>>109562247
Thank god they completely failed to penetrate the EN market. As an EN speaker they literally don't exist to me.

>>109564169
>the company behind gamebu
Well that would explain a lot actually

>>109562688
Jesus died for your sins so of you don't sin Jesus died for nothing

I saw some nips argue that vspo was created with nurturing girls to go into esports in mind but what i've seen of them doesn't make me feel that way at all
and since they don't do rp and such, vspo girls are just regular e-girl streamers wearing vtuber skins
nips are saying that they should've followed the guidelines but when the rules are pretty strict and ridiculous, does it still make sense to follow them despite that?
Haven't they released merch with sexy illustrations before?
Were they okay because they didn't show nips and pussies?

>>109562247
I've never watched vspo and even I know about the no lewds hard rule. That's not something you fuck around with in japan.
>>109564604
Obviously ecchi art is different than porn, are you/they retarded?

>>109564692
you sound like a corpo bootlicker

>>109564604
the "no lewd" rule was originally created as one of the conditions for one of the OG member joining vspo, because they were underage when they joined years ago.

The rule doesn't make sense today since 1) that person obviously already grew up, and 2) vspo has members whose being sexual is a large part of their branding (beni).

>>109562688
I've seen lewds of loli Jesus, I'm good.

VSPO was created for nijimales to have fps sluts to fuck
The reason they dont want lewd works is the girls dont want to damage their image for the nijimale they are get into bed with

>>109563851
Good, I have no tolerance for anyone who opposes creative freedom.

>>109562247
Japanese artists know about this rule and actively discourage people from requesting VSPO talents
Retard ran into traffic

>>109564716
>2) vspo has members whose being sexual is a large part of their branding (beni)
nips argued that it's not okay for fans to make sexual stuff but it's okay for the streamers to do so
rule for thee but not for me but unironically

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Reminder that this with brave a few months ago.
Brave Group Inc. was also previously known as Unlimited Inc.

>>109564692
>That's not something you fuck around with in japan.
They're retarded. The no uma musume lewds shit is retarded too, I will not agree with japan on this.

>>109564788
Actual fucking cuck nation.

>>109562789
>>109562819
>>109563358
>>109563701
Keep trying! Eventually someone will buy it.

>>109564830
uma is a bit more understandable since cygames doesn't hold 100% rights for the uma girls.
they have to be cautious lest the real life horse owners throw a fit and demand the uma girls be removed

>>109562247
everyone with a brain knows that brave group is even worse than anycolor but no one talks about it because they are obscure in the west

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>>109562247
Why is the japanese "justice" system somehow more fucked up than in the USA or any third world country? Do normal peasents even get a chance at anything?

>>109565198
I got really depressed when they bought up vspo and neo porte. Eventually they will knock the door of vspo for profit and it'll inevitably lead to their ruin.

>>109565229
imagine saying that in the land of litigation

>no you can't pirate anime that's hecking illegal
>umm have you even read the fanart guidelines? this literally violates them...
>did you just call marine dumb? prepare to get sued for 50 million yen asshole
Reddit country.

>>109563851
and that's a bad thing? Fuck them. I feel bad for the talents tho

>>109565229
No, it's basically third world tier justice system but somehow updated to first world standards

>>109565198
>be unlimited inc
>fucked up really bad
>changed name to brave group
>try to rise through buying a lot of vtuber companies
>too many staffs with a lot of them in high positions with a lot of salaries
>those acquired vtuber companies barely make any profits
>company is slowly walking towards its doom
the losing horse company...
it's also pretty funny that some consider them one of the big three alongside holo and niji

Must have been good content. Anyone got a link for the work?

Do you guys think the artist will get even more popular now and open a crowdfunding to balance the loss?

>>109565318
lol
lmao even
>crowdfunding
Is that even a thing over there?

>>109564788
>>109564842
Cheating and cucking being so widespread there is starting to make a lot of sence

>>109565285
>please don't project the vtuber and their persona onto the person behind, it makes them uncomfortable!
>nooooo the vtuber persona and the person behind are the same! you can't make lewds of them
bro?

>>109562688
You are actively blashpeming God
In a just world, we would burn you alive until you burn in hell forever

>>109565316
i don't think we know for sure which unlucky motherfucker got sniped
their docs only mentioned they got slapped with 4 mil yen but not their name

>>109565198
I know the average CEO is always a schizophrenic sociopath but I feel like Japanese managers take it on a whole new level with their retardness. Everytime I watch one of those videos about similiar cases in other companies over there it just baffles me that normal people just take it like that.

are there even any examples of people lawyering up and losing the case? feels like every time these companies publicly make an example out of someone it's just people bending over and settling

>>109565285
no wonder are the yakuza so romanticized

>>109562247
You see, this is why retarded JP artists should sell their art from a proxy outside of Japan, like Taiwan, or some other country more free than a shithole like the USA. Japan cares more about corpos than individual liberties.

>>109565343
>Is that even a thing over there?
Propably not with their weird sense of "pride" and "honour"

>>109565345
>You HAVE to bow down and agree with big corpo
>What, the rules are stupid? that doesn't matter, rules are rules and if you don't agree we're gonna fuck your life up
grim

>>109565437
unironically, they could use SEA sites or pretend to be one since nip hands can't reach that far
most artists/fans that got in trouble were japanese
it's the same way gooks pretend to be nips to avoid korea's stupid no r-18 works law

>>109562247
>be an artist
>HUGE fan of vspo
>somehow unaware of their policy on lewd art or just ignore it
>ends up paying a chunk of money to avoid court
i don't even watch vspo and i know they don't allow lewd art. the artist wasn't a fan or thought they could avoid the rules.

>>109565494
As a subhuman bugman slave I agree. Also you should get the death penalty if you use an emulator to play Pokemon games. God bless corporate IP rights

>>109562247
their parent company, Brave group, is probably still in the red.
If they crash and the ship sinks, how many big name vtubers will be in trouble?
not just vspo but every single company under them

>>109565529
don't blame me for stupid JP laws. it's retarded to ignore them if you're a JP. how many lawsuits do cover and niji announce they've won every quarterly report?

>>109565590
Assuming they're not allowed to keep their models, would JP fans still watch the big ones if they debuted as indies? Or in Japan is it basically corpo or nothing?

>>109565744
can't speak for JP but imo a lot of their appeals come from their vtuber designs
if they go indie, they need to find a good model.
good voice, content and gameplay can only get them so far.
how many fans do you think can tolerate ugly vtuber designs and rigging?
they should be able to comission a decent one IF they get paid regularly

>>109565198
Is it the EA Games of VTubing?

>>109566250
they had a huge controversy years ago and changed their name to try to get a fresh start
one of their scheme to expand their influence, increase their fame and possibly bury the old controversy is buying companies left and right
they're in red and they're still buying more and more
it's only a matter of time until they crash

What are the juicy details of the "vspo girls are living with male streamers" rrat?

>>109566452
a fire alarm went off while they were streaming and was clearly heard across several vspo girls along with kanae and kuzuha's streams

>>109566532
If it was at the same time that would a massive coincidence

>>109566676
it was at the same time, that's why the whole thing happened
And it wasn't an industrial scale fire alarm, it was a domestic alarm that's basically a smoke detector that beeps like an alarm clock, so the "maybe they just so happened to live in the same neighbourhood" rrat is a bust

Isn't this their stance since forever?
Artist a retard for making it a paywall content

>>109562247
>""artist""
>generate
lmao

>>109566532
that's pretty retarded if true
why would they put male and female streamers in the same house
it's been proven time and time again that it's a recipe for disaster
even if the vspo girls weren't meant to do GFE stuff or they don't have a lot of unicorn fans, it's still a bad idea
the whole idea is drama prone

>>109566781
see>>109564716
they don't have a reason to keep this rule anymore and it also contradicts with one of the talents' main appeal

>>109562247
I don't see the problem. The guy made lewds when the entire concept of VSPO told them not too.
>>109566452
hitting a bit close to the truth but it is up to the fans how delusional they want to be within the vtubing industry. not like it is a problem with the right mindset.

>>109566803
>it's been proven time and time again that it's a recipe for disaster
No it hasn't

>>109562364
Why is it always without fail /#/ and why arent mods rangebanning anyone that posts in that shithole

>>109566840
>>109566853
>>109566861
uh oh vspocucky seething

>>109566853
cope
vspo girls are fucking with nijimales
you're just burying your head in the sand because you're afraid of getting your horn broken

>>109566803
what is hard to understand that if you take a step and become popular it is very much an us vs them situation because the majority of fans lack respect and decency or even the avenue to build trust? just because you may contribute if you are a bit more active doesn't involve you in their friendship circle or even working circle?

>>109566904
You want to try that again

>>109566877
rare objective VSPO discussion. You think I am seething. what a moron you can take this fool as an example why they treat fans on the out.

>>109566934
go see a doctor you're having a stroke

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funny how vspo discussion and even rrats get distorted as they filter to the catalogue, almost like chinese whispers
makes it real easy to spot numberfags and other dramatard EOPs who know nothing about jp vtubers

>it's coping

Meanwhile, Cover's main rules on Hololive lewds are "don't use the official MMDs to make MMD porn" and "don't post porn of the talents under their official hashtags"

>>109567542
this is the ideal approach methinks
flexible and not too strict
drawing the line so they don't go overboard but not restricting creative freedom

>>109562247
There's no way this shit is legal.

>>109567542
>"don't post porn of the talents under their official hashtags"
that isn't even an official rule, it's a talent by talent thing

>artist
>generate
>tfw greentexting on twitter

>>109564818
They really are a bunch of incompetent retards.
They've doomed the futures of so fucking many people because they got tricked in to selling.
Friends don't let friends with Brave / Unlimited.
Fuck that cancer.

>>109562247
I think VSPO's objection to R18 art is retarded but they've always been 100% clear about the rule and they've always made it clear they'll go after anyone making it. So zero sympathy for the artist; he knew the risks.

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>>109564788
KEKKYPOW

>>109562247
i don't understand the fuss
what's wrong with making lewds of the avatar?
can't they just separate the avatar from the person behind it?
it's not like they used their real life appearances as references for the avatars

>>109562247
NEWFAGS only learned about Brave

Brave group is fucking retarded, if anyone thinks Niji has shit management then they’re an EOP because Brave is god awful. Vspo is also just a retarded corpo all-together, “e-sports” members who are mostly gold rank at best lmao. They’re basically just e-girls who get ran through by male streamers, they are barely #3 in Japan and have 0 relevancy outside Japan. Their EN branch is also about as “popular” as Phase’s JP branch lmao. Plus if people think Holo or Phase fans are cucks, they’ve seen nothing with how often Vspo girls are doing shit with men and how open they are with that stuff. No wonder Towa is closer with them than other Holos, whores stick together I guess. Which is really why Vspo will always be stuck with the popularity they are at, they will never grow beyond what they currently are.

Of course Nips on Twitter are celebrating this shit, always gotta bootlick the corpo under any circumstance.

>>109566934
shit post thread
open mic of an alarm = exposure
VSPO instead of Brave as the topic

/vt/ should not talk about JP talents ever

>>109568420
And it gets "better" - the V4Mirai girls aren't allowed to stream any FPS games or any games in any other genre with a competitive esports scene, specifically because that's what VSPO does. With how hard Brave does the "no two agencies under our umbrella are allowed to do the same category of streams" thing it's a miracle that V4M and VSPO EN are both allowed to stream in NA time slots.

>>109563851
>this is gonna snowball into slightly sensitive works not being allowed at all.
Nah, they monetize that shit themselves.
Half the girls are running around in bikinis by default
Reminds me of warhammer and aggressively shutting down any fan works so they could funnel everyone into their creator program

What's vspo? I only watch Holo

>>109568420
>They’re basically just e-girls who get ran through by male streamers
That describes all chuubas

>>109568420
Towa slander out of nowhere

>>109567941
Nigga these are drawings

>>109569396
Basically Botan streams but it's an entire company.

>>109562247
VSPO is a full-bot based company, btw. The reason they lawsuited that guy bad was probably because his work created a bridge people can use to check if sales are corresponding to the numbers they pull.

>>109569396
Holophased

>>109565744
i feel like they can survive if they get a good model, also as long as they remain in their streamer circles/connections

>>109571369
Pretty pathetic how all companies except Cover have to bot constantly lol.

>>109572337
>except Cover
lmao iykyk

>>109573137
Fuck off.

I refuse to support a company that disallows lewd art and goes this far to get rid of it.

>>109571246
I like Botan :)
>>109571745
I don't watch n*zi connect. Only Holo

>>109563851
Who's give a fuck about artist, they got elon money, they could hire any artist they want.

>>109564818
Jesus, this is just VShojo 2.0 waiting to happen.

>>109566532
You got any clip, also who was the vspo girl?

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>>109565300
>too many staffs with a lot of them in high positions with a lot of salaries
All things considered, this is not that many, Cover has like 700 employees, but at least they don't run at a loss.

>>109562247
For anyone thinking this is based the members themselves all make sex jokes all the time even with male vtubers.

>>109575388
but they don't stream creation of lewd art of themselves do they?

>>109565619
Cover didn't sue anyone for selling holo porn.
At most, they just sent a copyright claim to that Pop on Rocks artist who put the song on Spotify.

>>109575548
cover doesn't have a rule against it.

>>109575752
Indeed, that anon made it sound like Cover and niji sue people for R18 content all the time.

>>109562688
God spoke to me in a dream. He commanded me to stroke for my sacred seed is endless, and that the good women who will birth the world's next hope will be willing and eager. I feel the lord tugging. Jesus is my tugboating champion

>>109562247
>if umamusume did something similar
Horse racing is extremely srs business in Japan. Imagine how deep the Yakuza is into it, considering the amount of money flowing through betting. I doubt any vtuber agency has similar reach or power, they can always pay mafiosos for that tho

Drawing a vtubet naked without her consent is rape, chud

>>109569396
phase but JP

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Artists need to learn how to do proper OPSEC. Use VPNs for uploading illegal smut and setting up plausible deniability. As in the guy pays then you upload on another site and its unrelated to you.

>>109562247
Based, AI sloppers need to get put in their place and stop shitting up Pixiv and Patreon.

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>Esports and gaming centric vtuber girls
>The girls are mediocre at best and get carried by male chuubas
>Other chuubas under Brave group aren't allowed to do esports shit because it's what Vspo does and they're afraid someone will be better than them

10 mil for a picture lol

>>109569293
I keep forgetting vspo en exists
they never seem to even stream with anybody I actually know

>>109578738
they hitched their wagon to Elira and NijiEN upon debut

>>109578738
Aren't most of them are going to be in the District V Server? They may get a chance to blow up there.

>>109562247
>Instead of making the spicy content and asking for donations - paywalls the spice
That's where he fucked up

>>109580007
I doubt it. It'll be useful for networking with other chuubas but it's not an event that's going to draw many outside viewers.

>>109562247
The older I get the more I realize the legal system just happens to be the largest mafia group in the country.

>>109562247
Everyone knows you don't lewd the Vpures what a fucking retard

>>109566861
/#/ is unironically the most influential life blood in the Western VTubing fandom. Many Cover shareholders regularly post there so odds are you're talking to those with basic inside info.

>>109582591
There is a difference between customer and shareholder and I definitely know for a fact most of them are the former, not the latter, given how few brokerages have TSX access and none of them screenshotting their portfolios.

>>109580007
What >>109580211 said. Also some of them were in the Niji EN And Friends modded Minecraft server a few months back; though you'd be forgiven for not knowing about that, since only one clip video exists, it's on the Niji EN official YT channel, and whoever edited the video went to great lengths to exclude the "And Friends" part

>>109562247
nah, he could have gotten away with it if he hadn't made the patreon for it. Just dont ask for money and you can make all the r-18 you want.