Universal truth: You're oshi and that girl you hate are best friends. That on-screen bestie is just a business friendship.

90% of drama threads are perpetuated by browns

>>109665193
Large indies will turn a blind eye and sweep for high profile artists that behave badly. It is one of the most blatant and thinly veiled practices that is happening in the indie space.

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>>109665193
I very firmly believe Gunrun poached Gura from Hololive and he attempted to pay her massive kickback, which expedited the speed of which Vshojo hit bankruptcy

>>109665193
The tribalism between the streaming platforms has largely been artificially pushed to help drive more market share towards the select few Large corpos.
Feels unnatural and similar tribalism tactics are used by Apple products vs other tech products

This shit is pushed harder than xbox vs playstation shills.

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>>109665238
Seconding this. I used to not understand this board hates twitch so much because it's more or less the same as Youtube for live streams. Then I found out like 80% of south east Asia uses mobile plans for their internet and twitch isn't part of the coverage.

>>109665238
>that one day /vt/ had flags

>>109665193
The majority of HoloEN music is viewbotted.

Bae was the problem in holo council

>>109665193
Every vtuber is dating and fucking.

>>109665193
At the bottom of the vtuber iceberg you'll find
>Fubuki is real

>>109665193
>>109665848
Vtuber orgies are real.

>>109665314
did the money end up in gura's bank account before it all blew up, so she doesn't need to stream to make money since she already has money?

>>109665848
>>109665878
Yeah with me.

>>109665644
>>109665624
I hate twitch because of twitch culture.
twitch culture arose from the technical features twitch has that youtube doesn't.
even if a streamer can choose to disable those features, it's already just an expected part of using the platform so disabling the features either turns off viewership or makes new viewers ask why the features are disabled all the time

god damn it dont fix the thread subject

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>>109665193
The clique of indie vtubers that made the hit peace on Sinder did it out of jealousy and not morality.
Sinder was astronomically ahead of all the others, and it wasn't even close. All of the vtubers that were the loudest didn't even crack to top 10.
Except for Shylily who spearheaded the smear campaign.

>>109665312
>>109666456
Same people.

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>>109665193
around 2 years ago Kaela got married as her streaming time dropped almost 90%

>>109665193
Phase only hires women for staff roles

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That the truth of peko v miko is so damaging that if the details were made public it would destroy hololive

My oshi hate anal sex

>>109665238
100% this.

>>109665193
vtubers are trying to sissify and/or convince their male audience to get castrated or at least become faggots
I've seen this with:
sameko saba (indie)
nimi LLD nightmare (indie)
raora pantera (hololive)
aquwa (indie)
marimari_en (phase)
shiina (phase)
and a few more.

the sissification and trannification conspiracy is real.

dint trust vtubers

>>109665312
>high profile artists that behave badly
To be a high profile artist in the first place you have to be some flavor or insane and/or completely insufferable. If musicians still work with producers who are rapists I think vtubers would be willing to look the other way for menhera artists

>>109667313
and if not faggot eunuchs, they want cucks

all vtubers are a threat

>>109665193
Kirsche is being payed by AIPAC along with Nick Fuentes, Asmongold, and Joe Rogan.

>>109665792
This and all that numberfag subgoals. You're telling me that somehow absolutely new subs from actual humans appear out of nowhere to push a goal?

>>109667418
*those, Jesus...

>>109667418
Especially when they do a countdown stream. I find it hard to believe that thousands of people who somehow have never heard of Hololive before just ~happen~ to find that stream and just ~happen~ to sub in droves in the span of a few hours.

>>109665193
My theory is that OP and everyone who replies to low effort, regularly spammed engagement bait threads like this is fucking retarded and if everyone that ever posted in one of these threads was permanently banned the quality of the board would shoot up immensely.
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/1l2vrDP4ll5hSw97MV-DQw/

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>>109665193
She lied about not having piercings (she has a lot of them) to seem more pure

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>>109667930
>noooo, stop pointing to the man behind the curtain pushing the buttons and pulling the levers
>you're all imagining it!!!!
lol, on the day of the rope i won't be there, i couldn't bear to watch your face as you are made to pay for your crimes against God and man

and you will pay

>>109667993
Please god let this be true because it would be so fucking hot.

>>109668128
She has 11 of them in total, 3 of those on her belly if the rumors are true

>>109665848
- music
-en
All of hololive is so botted it's not even funny anymore. Not even claiming it is yagoo himself buying botnets. it's just how the platform works. You want your bots to look natural so you make them follow sub etc accounts with some numbers already for a "normal" profile.

>>109665193
I'm starting to suspect Nimi and Randon know each other well

>>109667930
Starting with you

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>>109667993
fuuck

>>109667313
can you give any examples of these supposed behaviors

>>109668556
promote food with high onions content like gamersupps and other trash pseudo energy drinks
condition their fans to throw money at them at every possible holiday

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>>109667993
Thanks chihayaschizo, am I supposed to be mad or...? It's pretty hot if true

>>109667993
Just when I thought she couldn't get hotter

>>109668372
cry indieshart cry

most black vtubers are larpers who aren´t actually black

>>109665193
Kojima is Pekora’s father

>>109665193
fwmc and flayon talk about VNs behind the scenes

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>>109671420
not father but daddy

>>109671507
They also have sex behind the scenes

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>>109667313
Oi what did my oshi do? She doesn't want us to be faggots!

>>109669096
>vtubers want to castrate their audience and make them gay!
>sometimes they shill for money
>other times they ask for money
Anon...

>>109665193
mokkupii and feilean cu are dating.

>>109666456
Didnt that artist get outed as trying to play both sides or something, or was lying

>>109668173
Holy shit

>>109667418
You can see people bragging about making alt accounts in fan discord, it's pretty pathetic behavior

>>109666456
>bits
I know we're on the board that doesn't watch twitch but what a irrelevant fucking metric lmao

>>109668556
nimi literally asked her chat if an alien offered them the option to live along time, (200+) years, but they had to get their junk cut off, if they would accept that offer?
aquwa has a lot of femboy content, even trying to get vedal in a maids outfit (which also puts camila into the list of untrustworthy harlots)
raora "playing" that she will castrate chattini
shiina, same, castration, yaoi, femboys, etc

the evidence is there in their streams, you just need to pay attention.
they want you feminized, castrated, gay and submissive to them.
marimari_en cranks her hog, and something about 5 guys

that's "idol culture"

oh, and pipkin pippa was trying to get her chat to shoot up a walmart
you just can't trust these hos

>>109672276
idk, what is she doing rn?

>>109674848
shiina/mari is a poor mans lia/eimi. those 2 are the genuine artifact

>>109674848
at least Shiina will call you gay for being a eunuch

>>109674877
yeah, lia was on that "white women fuck dogs" trip, when i first saw her content, and it put me off (same for that smug alana individual)
they cuck you with dogs and try to castrate you for their own entertainment.
its not something new either, this is one of the cult practices of the east, tied to ishtar.

these harlots are dangerous, indie and corpo, the same spirit is guiding them, why do you think there are so many trannies in this hobby?
so many trannies in the entertainment industry?
so many trannies in california, the headquarters for this?
yeah, its not a coincidence.

i've never heard of eimi

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>>109674877
Lia doesnt try. It just happened organically. Even when she thought she made gains away from faggot audience, her content shows up in main stream gay concerts

>>109674848
Sakutan Morning and collabs with Mea. We get a lot of kino singing streams too

perhaps not as crazy, but I always thought Vshojo was paying False, and my other dramafags, to promote anything their talents did, no matter how important or mundane it was. But also report of every downfall or stumble other corpos had, especially the big ones

There are multiple vtubers who are ten times more Chud-coded than their characters are, and who only don't get sniffed out through raw commitment to kayfabe. Won't name them. Chud myself, and recognize I'd be doing them no favors. Won't present evidence, but I do have it privately. Which is to say that when a vtuber is outwardly political it is definitely a choice, because I have multiple vtubers I watch who I can SMELL the conservatism on, but who very clearly don't make it their "thing."

>>109674963
she'll call YOU gay, i'm keeping my balls and shaft attached, living and thriving.
i advise you to do the same

>>109675006
well, i like music, just keep an ear out for sus content, i dont want you losing your balls or dick just cause some harlot wanted to have fun at your expense
and you will start taking notice now that i've pointed it out.

My Phase rrat is that Airi is Muumi.

>>109675067
We've had no sus content and can vouch my onion isn't a harlot. Perks of not being an ENshart ig.

>>109667400
Kirsche doesn't accept the jewish question it's true, i still love her tho

>>109671420
No, but Yagoo is Sora's father

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>>109665193
Every vtuber who gets big does it by botting
Every single one
Even early Hololive Sora told a story once about how she 'only' had like 20 viewers for her first stream and it was just all people from Cover offices but I guarantee you that was them watching it on both their laptops and phones and trying to bot her higher too.
On Twitch there used to be an easy way of botting around 50 views per computer using Selenium but I've heard larger non-vtuber streamers talk about using AWS and other cloud instances for viewbotting.
Also the majority of older vtuber's subs come from people making loads of alt accounts and subbing to them.
You used to be able to easily make 20 youtube accounts for each gmail you had without needing to verify but they changed that semi-recently so that you can't even make a second unless you verify your phone number first.
There is zero chance that vtubers with over 100k subscribers didn't have loads of people make fake account and sub to them like that.

3d is not performed by the talent, but rather a couple of on-site dancers

>>109676841
Sora's first stream had 50 viewers and 37 of them were staff and acquaintances. That is no secret. She did not even start with Youtube nor Twitch.

Sora genuinely has some kind of mental disability which makes her so childish

>>109665238
That was proven when /vt/ went down and everyone migrated to alt sites that revealed country of origins.

>>109667313
Uruka (Phase)
Salmon Lordette (indie/Vreverie)
Lia (Phase)
Kiara (KFP employees are all canonically female. Not a rooster in site)

The anon who used to claim Mori accidentally killed Gura at the party and that Cover was using Mumei to impersonate her was partially correct. Mori did accidentally kill her and Mumei was used briefly to impersonate her, until Cover developed an AI (remember Cover is first and foremost a tech company) and concocted her graduation to create a form of controlled opposition in the indie sphere (a way of still taking in money from disaffected Hololive viewers). They are having trouble properly using the AI hence her continued lack of streams.
>>109675024
This is obviously true, not just for some secretly "chud" chuubas but also secretly "woke" chuubas. Most of the bigger vtubers are intelligent enough to know that by making any political statements they're cutting off a section of potential viewers which is bad for business, but you can tell from things they reveal about their early years and what sites/communities they frequented where they likely stand. This is how it should be by the way - just yap about funny things and play games; most people don't want to hear the political opinions of anime women.

It was a nice thread until you showed up and tried too hard.

>>109665943
which features would that be?
raiding is on youtube as well
tts is not a twitch feature

The early gens of most corpos have significant ownership stakes in the corpos, which they got as an alternative compensation to cash during lean years. You imagine the shareholders and the board of directors as faceless ojiisans but it's actually Sora and Roboco for Cover and the JK gumi for Anycolor, etc.

>>109665193
stop posting this ugly black dude's face on this board about women pretending to be cute anime girls

>>109678018
>board of directors
More properly, since I believe directors are public info in Japan, it would be legal agents of the talents serving on their behalf.

Outfitschizo is actually just Kronii shitposting.

>>109677978
NTA but stuff like spamming of other streamer's emotes and the use of animated emotes. Also stuff like hype trains that have big flashy graphics and progress bars and other distracting shit.
Raiding on Youtube has to be manually enabled and you can control who has raid permissions, versus on Twitch where it's enabled globally by default.
TTS is not a Twitch feature but it's considerably more commonly used by Twitch streamers than by Youtube streamers, hence why it's regarded as Twitch CULTURE.

>>109665193
Takanashi Kiara is a heterosexual woman.

>>109676883
this is known, especially when a girl goes from dog shit to a great dancer in the span of 5 months (dokibird)

>>109665314
My rrat is kinda similar, I firmly believe that Nimi left for Vshojo, there's no fucking way she's so fucking close to Mint, aka Vshojo's poacher and nothing happened, Gura was oshi'ing fauna and even watched religiously her witcher streams, when fauna had her graduation stream gura said ''well... see you around!!''. Gunrun could never ever convince gura, but fauna could and the reason why there was a huge period of time in which saba didn't mention nimi is because she filled her head with promises and the Vshojo imploded.

>>109678712
>spamming of other streamer's emotes and the use of animated emotes
Doesn't happen outside of big streamer's chats from what I've seen
>hype trains that have big flashy graphics and progress bars and other distracting shit
Big streamer issue
>is not a Twitch feature but it's considerably more commonly used by Twitch streamers than by Youtube streamers
Again try not watching shitty streamers.
Seems like the problem is less twitch culture and more that you're choosing to watch Ironmouse or some obvious whore who chooses to go in for all that shit. Most streamers don't.
Go search a random game category and filter by vtubers then click one at random I can all but guarantee you they won't have any of the culture shit you say you hate.

>>109665193
mine just got proven... again. tranny shitters are joining things they hate just to try and break down communities from inside. Thank you Phil for proving the thing that never happens its actively what you and others are doing.

Vezalius Bandage is dating Saba

>>109679107
Mint is close to whomever Mint thinks can help Mint in that exact moment in time

>>109674030
Here's the funny thing, the whole and I mean WHOLE thing with nano, the artist, is that she's a 3rd worlder and charges you as a 3rd worlder, whtat synder basically did was tell her to be exclusive to her and she'll pay her as if she was a 1st world country worker and nano accepted... you know what this implies? that nano was so starved for money and the clique who kept asking her for things payed her so little (because of nano's own stupidity) didn't even tell her, EVER ''hey your work is pretty good and you should charge more'', no no, they wanted the good 3rd world labor at 3rd world prices.

>>109679104
she didnt have a skinwalker, but she used mikumikudance

>>109676841
you sound like a jealous indie.

>>109679115
>"It's not a problem if you watch a 2view with nobody in chat to donate or spam"
Is basically what you're saying

Yuri got terminated by Phase because she got got giving personal information about Hime, Lia, Airi, and Uruka to a vtuber named Miia, then Miia turned around and told her mod who was also Lumi's mod, who then went to Phase with the info.

>>109665193
Nimi/Ceres and Pillowdear is the same person

>>109678712
Shachi multi streaming has proven one thing to me, yt chat is the one just spamming emotes with 0 actual convo while twitch actually has ppl talking cause the chat is functional

>>109679356
Check https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/Vtuber and click someone at random
I just clicked into https://www.twitch.tv/cowfee and wow none of the shit you just mentioned

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>>109665193
Some vtubers cyberstalk certain people to get/farm ideas for new content, or just figure out what game to play to get more view counts

>>109679440
>open stream
>"Watch to earn drops"
>Streamelements: "A multi-raffle has begun! Type !join to join!
>Chat spamming !join
>!gamble spam for some roulette thing
>animated emotes of other vtubers being used in chat
Amazing!

Mococo HAETS Ruffians

vtubing already reached its peak market size, flesh and blood viewers age out and age in at the same or worsening rates, and there's no prospect of finding brand new audiences. it's now a zero sum competition over the existing audience.

>>109665193
Fuwamoco hates working with EN members and despises their western fans.

>>109679661
I honestly think this is true. But who could break through?

>>109678018
If they actually had significant stocks their names would be public. At best Sora has some stocks in the company but not much to reveal her identity.
I doubt Roboco has ownership on the fact that she debuted by the time Cover got funding.

>>109680158
Yeah, duh

several phase origins members have wanted to leave for a long time, but they keep getting pulled back in because sakana is deeply attached to them and wont let them go

>>109679602
>>109680158
FACTS

Michael is not a cat

>>109679408
This but Lulu Lasso instead

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Sameko Saba and Dooby3D are dating. When they first met in Hololive EN as Amesame, they fell for each other. However, due to current circumstances they couldn't commit to a relationship. But then; in March 2023, their Japan Date, they had a moment that Gura described as deeper than a kiss. In this moment, they decided then and there to start dating. This is backed up by the fact that some of the most suspicious They Are moments happened in 2024 and onwards. Such as:
>Coming back from hiatuses at the same time
>Ame implying that Gura is apart of The Watson Family and watching the Olympic opening ceremony with her
>The discord sleepovers
>Dooby saying she visited Florida
>Them having matching Cinnamoroll and Pompurin UFO keychains
>Dooby posting a pic of heart shaped flan she made during a Saba karaoke (with a blue heart attached

>>109683553
Dooby is my girlfriend dude stop pretending they are all lesbians

>>109665193
No sexually active white man watches vtubers

>>109680208
Normies cannot enjoy anything genuine, whoever breaks through would have to be an ironic twitch edgelord that appeals to the lowest common denominator such as burntpeanut or early edgy pippa but transformed for the current social media meta climate. Edgy FPS dude bro and le stupid gamer girl that shows her tits on camera while her avatar is just in a little corner to the left will become western vtuber royalty.

>>109683741
Who said Dooby was a lesbian? She's bisexual.

>>109683982
Ones that are sexually active with prostitutes do.

>>109684003
There was never anything genuine in vtubing.

>>109680208
"Who" isn't really the right question, no one can do that by themselves, and if they could their talents would be better used in a different field besides vtubing.
You think Gura got as popular as she did entirely on her own merit, with nothing left to luck or circumstance?

>>109680208
Someone willing to do real art and not curated escapist bullshit.

>>109685136
Do the masses actually want "real art", though?

>>109683982
>>109684398

TRVKE

>>109685188
Yes. If it’s genuine and real, people are desperate for it, it just involves a little mirroring and manipulation that most people feel is wrong. This statement is equally as insane as it is true.

>>109685346
If people wanted "real art", AI generated art wouldn't be taking off as quickly as it is.

>>109685346
To expound on this escapism is a guilty pleasure, it deserves mockery and ridicule, people enjoy this if it’s presented intelligently enough, fine line between joy and resentment though

>>109685443
That’s not authentic. It’s an outcome based on the extreme amounts of self censorship that preceded it, some skilled retard with an ai prompt is shitting out equal quality to self censoring retards. This is from a lack of applying real intelligence and a apathetic attitude from creators.

>>109685537
*skilless

phase theories
>airi is related to muumi or is muumi herself. they both appeared at the first company dinner in september 2021
>pippa, tenma, lia & uruka gets special treatment because phase is scared to death of them quitting and blowing whistles on early shit that happened in the company. stuff so bad an nda wouldnt even matter and it is worth breaking because it would nuke the company. they were verbally and emotionally abused by sakana for the first 5 months of the company among other things

>>109665193
Balding is mostly caused by hair products such as shampoos. Any cause attributed to genetics or disease is a big lie. But modern society has a need or demand for bald/balding people. It's keeps dominant male competition under control, and it also makes them servile and subordinate. There's also persistent market demand as well.

To prevent widespread balding and the eventual collapse of humanity, manufacturers made a devil's deal with the logistics companies to evenly distribute contaminated products to different regions. This is why you sometimes see labels on the product "This product is not for exporting" or "This is for local use only".

>>109665193
all phase connect "happenings" are planned and orchestrated from the inside

>>109665193
Sameko Saba is currently dating Vargskelethor Joel and has been for a while. They both take lengthy unexplained hiatuses that often overlap one another, and both are incredibly cagey and private about their lives outside of streaming.

>>109685537
This obviously wouldn’t be sustainable in the traditional vtubing streaming hours and hours days and days a week format, but that format is festering anyway it was never any better than dumb lets play parasocial bullshit that was around long before it, there’s still plenty of room for real artists to utilize vtubing though in cooler ways, hololive teases some of it, but any indie vtuber has even more creative freedom, they’re just squandering it

>>109665644
I don't think that is "something you can't prove" I'm pretty sure it's a fact

>>109681537
hey fuck you pal lemme be a cat

>>109686024
I think the biggest hurdles with a "true artist" sort of chuuba is that every single mechanism of vtubing is against them. Your average vtuber person only bothers to watch the big corporate vtubers or ascended indies (aka former corporate vtubers and those in their immediate orbit). People who don't want dumb lets play bullshit almost universally have impossible standards for what they want, so they don't actively go searching nor do they support more offbeat chuubas. Cool artist chuubas generally suck at self promotion and will eventually wither away on their own, and it's not like people are searching for them because of the previous two scenarios.

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>>109665193
The "friend" that got Mel terminated was another holo member. Not that long ago Astel mentioned that the nda's they have when working on something also don't allow them to talk about it with other members.
>Mel is working on a job/project.
>Her cat dies.
>She vents to her "friend"(another Holo member) how she's stressed from her cat and job/project.
>Member gets jealous of what she's working on.
>Complains to their manager why Mel got that job/project and not them.
>Management asks how she knew about it.
>Member says Mel has been telling them about it and other jobs/projects for a while.
>Mel is terminated for breaking nda.

>>109685603
>>pippa, tenma, lia & uruka gets special treatment because phase is scared to death of them quitting and blowing whistles on early shit that happened in the company. stuff so bad an nda wouldnt even matter and it is worth breaking because it would nuke the company. they were verbally and emotionally abused by sakana for the first 5 months of the company among other things
can anyone confirm?

Theres potential for a Gura level vtuber to emerge the scrolls told me such, but monkey paw dictates that they will be hated by /vt/

>>109665193
Elira was misinformed and did the Black screen stream out of ignorance and not malice

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>>109678093
your oshi is a black guy with a voice changer

Your oshi is actually Chinese.

>>109679209
Underrated comment

>>109696686
Seethe sister

>>109675015
I don't think they were ever good at hiding it. Vshojo included False as a cameo in their animations multiple times

>>109689044
I still think this is more of a complacency/apathy issue, if you’re going to dump however much money into a model and you’re an artist, make it work for you.