>the fact that there are more graduated EN Council members than ungraduated
>Promisevs>The Broken Promise>>109690102
>>109690102is that a real thumbnail? Do Holoclippers just dox vtubers like that? Do they not care about kayfabe and all that?
>>109692221They've been doing that since the selen thing
>>109692221they must save their villages
>>109692221Kayfabe is dead, anon. Especially /here/
>>109690102I thought Sana graduated from vtubing in general?
>>109692221>Do Holoclippers just dox vtubers like that?dox? the left are dead and only one on the right is a vtuberkayfabe dies when the character dies, anon.
>>109692221>Do Holoclippers just dox vtubers like that?saying nimi used to be fauna is not a dox retard
>>109692221People really stopped caring after it was normalized with nijisisters
>>109694013She occasionally pngtubes for things that catch her autistic interests.
>>109692221Nobody cares anymore when it comes to PL. Most people are now convinced it only helps the corpo.
>>109690102>supporting the lying whore of EN
>>109692221It's not doxx, but yes clippers (meaning dramafaggots) are very annoying
>Sana lied about her back>Mumei lied about her voice>Fauna was literally getting dicked
So why didn't she do any 3D concerts while in hololive?
>>109694669japan is very far away and time spent in japan is time not streaming. As an indie she can record shit locally and thus can more easily put out more 3D stuff in general.
>>109694683Other members used 3rd party studios to do their 3D concerts and events.
>>109694013She did but sometimes she pops up for things she likes or just to fool around.She even did a collab with Kronii's PL for the Sonic 3 movie.
>>109694701Got any examples? Especially from ones outside Japan?
>>109694744The ones made by Kanauru.
>>109694788That uses Kanauru's motion data, though. All of Nimi's so far was done with her own recordings.
>>109694801The point is they could use 3rd party studios, but Kiara, for example, said that in Germany they are too expensive to rent.
>>109694817Dunno, then. Could also be a rule they changed later after the departures, or maybe it's another factor like perms being difficult or whatever. Hell, it could just be as simple as her not knowing about any 3D places that could work until she left and started talking to Mint and Doki.
>>109694013She still meets with people, even on the JP side.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gjzjfTEdq8
>>109690102Did... did Niji win the All Out War?
>>109695340>Niji No>NimiYes
>>109690102execute all clip makers and watchers
>>109695297i tend to prefer the 2d models over 3d, but korone's eyes still look great whichever model she uses
>>109694683>JapanFauna refused to go to New York for Breaking Dimension…
>>109690102The worst gen in hololive history. It's not even close.
>>109690102it was a mistake to hire white women
>>109692221thats only from indie -> corpowhen you go from corpo -> indie it doesnt matter because the VT doxes herself anyway to lech on the fame that being part of a corpo gave her.
>>109696206Blame omega
>>109696399These 2 literally ask not to be linked and will ban ppl who do
>>109696180Still pretty far. She didn't need to travel all that much for that virtual vacation thing
>>109696548mumei and sana?ummm yeah i can believe that, those two do seem to have more principles, they are still leching but i guess it wasnt as bad as other cases.
>>109696548They specifically don't want you to bother them about it, anon
>>109690102grimcover really fucked up with this gen
Spoiler alert: Eventually, all Gens are going to have more graduated than present members
>>109696788Everyone else is happy and nobody is leaving after these traitors left
>>109690102>councilCouldn't care less. In fact I want the remaining leeches to get fired too.
>>109696894hahahaha happylooks at irys twitter
>>109690102I hope all EN hololive vtubers will be graduating in the futureso that Hololive won't ever be tainted by white and black blood anymore
>>109692221Dramafags don't give a single shit about the talent, the corpos or whatever keyfabe exists, they use vtubing drama to make some cheap money and couldn't care less about the hobby itself.Remember, for these people 5 bucks is equivalent to like 10 months of work.
>>109690102>can no longer use saba and doob>rub back to leech inactive onesShameless
>>109697022she reposts fanart and had a cold about a week ago?
>>109692221Fucking kek. This anon actually thinks people still care about PL shit and "pretending" not to know
>>109696592>pretty farMost of the girls traveled from Japan...
>>109698025>this damage controlling
>>109690102nice job omegafaggot
>>109697022I thought Ina was next on the queue?Can you guys keep your stories straight when you come here from your drama discords?
>>109698895>>109700344https://x.com/irys_en/status/2022349143709212866you faggots need to at least pretend to be holodrones
>>109692221>HoloclippersThis is an anti corpo clipper. Born after Selen shock.
>>109693958I can't believe Triple Nose would do this to us...
>>109700982>woman>something "upsetting" happened>can quite literally be anything in the entire worldnot much experience with women huh?
>>109692221Doki and Nimi fucking caused all the cancer clip channels to sprout up.They destroyed western vtubing.
>>109692221Honestly it's a testament to Hololive and at the time Nijisanji's pure cultural brand power that they managed to convince a segment of English speakers that helping fans find an ex-corpo vtuber's new incarnation is a bad thing. The decline of people caring about hiding PLs started with VShojo making ex-corpo's PLs a big selling point instead of something to be hidden. Nijisanji failing spectularly and especially Selen made people see discussing ex-Niji reincarnation as morally right to hurt Nijisanji. The ex-Holos going indie further exacerbated this, culminating into HoloEN's literal mascot Gura telling everyone to tear it down burn it down, clearly signaling who she was on Senzawa, and directing us to Saba who is a Gura clone. Hiding corpo PLs as a concept is dead everywhere except directly in their chats and discords.
>>109690102>can sing just fineSo why do mute streams?
>>109699005Nobody thinks the antis who watch clips about these girls care. But some of those girls themselves would ban you from their fanbase if you said those names so it's weird to larp as a fan of them when you clearly hate them.
>>109692221Good clippers can be counted on the fingers of one hand
>>109694669>So why didn't she do any 3D concerts while in hololive?Cover will pay for their 3D showcase but a talent has to burn money on the optional 3D lives which is a huge investment into a character, and channel, that is completely owned by employer. That makes sense if a talent will spend many years in Hololive but after the Sana graduation I do think it caused some of the others to have doubts about whether they would stay. Mumei did a single 3D live were she complained that management cut things that she wanted while Ame and Fauna never had any optional 3D lives. Also early on EN talents would often complain about the lack of creative control they had in 3D lives. They couldn't choose the director, they had things removed at the last moment, and the EN talents could only use the small rooms at the 3D studio.
>>109703103yeah a lot of the 3D live prep can spiral out of their control. i can only imagine it's worse when you don't speak the language natively and don't live in japan to easily re-record stuff. even bae regularly stresses the fuck out over these things and she has both in her favor. then the cost... these things are expensive, talent still gotta pay Cover to rent studio space (it's not fully refunded even if you miss it due to unavoidable issues), and only subsequent merch recoups anything - but the company takes a sizeable portion of that too. do too many and you are mentally and fiscally poorer for it. they literally are just for fans to enjoy and a chance to boost the talent's popularity if something gets super well-received.
>>109694669She hated being the smallest fish in the big ocean, now people will bend over backwards to accomodate her as the biggest fish in their small pond.
>>109692221Yea they are pretty fucking retarded after being asked to not do it.
>>109696367but one of those is an ugly sea
>>109699092For the recording, anon. Also most of the girls don't stream. It was nice because even during events like holofes, Fauna would be one of the very few ENs still streaming regularly
>>109692221yeah people haven't cared for quite a while...
>>109708056>Also most of the girls don't stream.>2024Koseki Bijou — 1220.1 hMori Calliope — 1082.1 hTakanashi Kiara — 822.7 hFUWAMOCO — 773.1 hHakos Baelz — 687.8 hNerissa Ravencroft — 616.4 hIRyS — 588.6 hShiori Novella — 553.2 h>Ceres Fauna — 519.5 hOuro Kronii — 472.7 hNinomae Ina’nis — 357.2 hNanashi Mumei — 235.9 hWatson Amelia — 195.8 hGawr Gura — 102.3 h
>>109694669>women liedoh....oh no....oooohhh noooooSOMEONE ALERT THE PRESS!!!!WOMEN LIEEEEDD!!!
>>109715001Ina's next
>>109690102their lust for randon's cock was just stronger than councils bonds.
>>109702148The real reason for a PL taboo is because the Japs are insane and will do their utmost to dig through old accounts looking for yabs to harass talents over. They don't need to be gatekept from following ex-corpos because they are corpofags, they don't give two shits about talents the moment they graduate to become indies. Which is why it became such a big thing in 2024 when multiple high profile EN corpo vtubers went indie and took their audience with them. It wasn't as much a PL taboo death as EN fans refusing to turn their backs on their oshis just because they weren't corpo any more
>>109715001>2024If you're going to be objective post 2025 hours. I don't think jailbirds would be throwing a fit if Nerissa still streamed that much
>>109692221>chuuba MODEL can do THIS and chuuba gets SURPRISED by NEW TRACKING TECHNOLOGYClippers don't care about your immersion nor kayfabe.
>>109719583What immersion? They're dead
>>109719476fire everyone under bae
>>109715001proceeds to show laughable hours compared to a 40 hour work week
>>109719236>The real reason for a PL taboo is because the Japs are insanecould have stopped there
>>109724087This anon probably still thinks teachers sleep at the school.
>>109692221always
>>109724127this anon believes all the "homework" that never manifests in to anything
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