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THREAD RULES:
>>109729176Discord server rules:
Cute feet
Dicks out for Cher fellas, we’re gooning to Pilltoes in his honor.
We are Cherlie Kirk
>>109729279WE CARRY THE FEETWE FIGHT FOR THE GOONINGWE HONOR HIS NAME
>>109729279Stop copying
reminder that pillow is seiso vtuber, respect that
Aren't there age checks for discord now? I'm considering reporting them.
>>109729318Always have
Cher was there for me when I needed to goon most. For that I will support him.
>>109729582https://youtu.be/-8h_v_our_Q?si=QrJD6JgrzRC3T7UyI’m Cherolac! No I’m Cherolac!!! We’re all Cherolac!!!
Dropping Pillow if Cher doesn't get unbanned. Otherwise it reveals she doesn't really give a crap about her gachikoi.
>>109729805kys dramafag
>>109729805I wouldn’t drop her even if she shot me in the chest, but it’d hurt my image of her and make me sad.
not a fan of dramafags catching onto this
cute socks
>>109730069Haven't seen any of that.
If you’re upset about this, you should email her. Pillow being stressed out for a day is preferable to the community developing into a faggy clique ruled by power tripping discord mods.
>>109730677But no you must understand, Pillow posted a sad crying drawing. This means it is our fault for talking about this stuff and mods shouldn't be criticized because that is infighting and she hates you for it.
I think she is trying to navigate this situation as we speak. Hopefully we see a response sometime later today.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first time someone who wasn't Pillow posted in the announcements Discord channel. Which makes me think they did not consult Pillow at all about this.
>>109730763She doesn't need to have any response really. Just remove the mods from their mod status (not even a full ban) and unban Cher.>>109730825Eh, it doesn't indicate anything either way. It's also possible that Pillow just asked them to post it for her or something. Any claim that Pillow knew or not is pure speculation.
Free my dawg piwwo
>>109730825It was also posted about 10 mins before she went to sleep. She's the type that would struggle to sleep at all if she knew something controversial was dropping like this.
>>109730869The issue of being hands-off with moderation yourself is that moderation tends to then be done by people who have no intention of being hands-off about it
I think most of us are fine with mods just as long as they do their job and no more. They're a necessary evil. Any drastic and sweeping actions should be approved by Pillow. Any mod that comes /here/ to defend themselves 100% deserve to get shat on. Just sort your shit out with Pillow directly.
>>109730739to be fair she does hate infighting and would prefer if piwwows would chill instead
>>109730900pillow will never micromanage any drama because she's just mentally not capable of that stress piwwows have to sort it out between themselves
Even if he does get unbanned, will it ever go back to normal for him? The mods just showed that they’re willing to toss him out to keep some random kids happy, because those kids are on sites that are not even intended for children
>>109730990I'm not sure why everyone decided to blame some piwwo kidscould also perfectly be just adults who don't want to see pillow in degen way and find it annoying
>>109730990No. That's why everyone has been saying she needs to remove all the rogue mods too. It's like if this was a pizza shop. It's the manager's responsibility not to hire people who will spit in my pepperonis.
>>109731032Because with adults, at least most are smart enough to keep quiet about their age under most circumstancesThe kids WILL inform you constantly about how underaged they are and how much they hate anything lewd.>just adults who don't want to see pillow in degen wayYeah, the mods themselves. That shouldn't be hard to realise
>>109731032Nobody is blaming the kids lmao. Ultimately, the mods are the ones who took action to ban a good piwwo. You sound like a guy who agrees with the ban but doesn't wanna say it.
>>109731106Lol
>>109731106They did Pillo dirty...
>>109731035I was going to screenshot it, but it appears she deleted the mod submission link on the Discord, which is fair. She had a moderator application up a little bit ago and explicitly stated that her chat moderators are:-Not allowed to brat or consider themselves better than other Piwwos-Allowed to act with any authority outside of the chat in any way-Allowed to get directly involved with chatters beyond putting them in time out. Now granted, a bunch of her discord mods are also chat mods, so they have extra powers, but it can assumed that her discord mods are told something similar, since that's the mindset she's treating her mods with. RoninTenshi already violated that by DMing a Piwwo with a warning for posting on twitter, and whoever nuked Cher is violating pretty much all those rules.
>>109731032Sorry, I was just going off of what I had seen. As >>109731066 stated, it was the kids who were most prominent about following Cher around and hounding him for what he does off server. Some went as far as to say that they’re permanently traumatized, despite going to the Rule34 site out of their own free will
>>109731171brag**
>>109731187(me)To clarify, they’ve openly admitted to being underage through messages. PillowCord has a role for under 18 users to protect kids, they don’t select the role, but they feel the need to tell everyone they’re underage anyway
>>109731171>Now granted, a bunch of her discord mods are also chat mods, so they have extra powersThat's probably an issue of itself. It would have been better to make it so that you can only be one of the other, because the issue with Cher seems to be not just a Discord ban, but an actual chat ban too, which seems way too far for this
>>109731187>permanently traumatized
>>109731213I can't believe I went to the porn site and there was porn.
>>109731247I assume they are joking in their own childish way. Basically doing an "I'm 12 and wtf is this." If not, I really have to see what the fuck this dude Cher was posting to get this response lmao
>>109731299It was never anything crazy.
>>109731171Where have you seen them bragging?
>>109731187>despite going to the Rule34 site out of their own free willOh my good fuck those kids probably saw some furry scat and that's what caused their trauma lol
>>109731332Ah sorry, they've only violated MOST of what she asks from them. Happy?
>>109731329Fuark
>>109731329These types of posts were kept in a locked out or are publicly available in a porn site. All they have to do is not follow that account, and not go to the porn site. Apparently, they’re incapable of doing that
>>109731329Lmao that's pretty standard, especially since it matches her character. Only problem is the boobs are too small.
>>109731340It all fits on one page, this is all of it.
>>109731347Nah he isn't happy because he is probably one of the mods kek.
>>109731372Oh you meant Pillow herself being on the tags there whoops.
>>109731372Note, while about 1/3 of the posts are Cher's commissions, I believe all of them had a SFW version that he posted to his actual account, which Pillow usually would comment on, like, and repost.
He's a hornywwo, but he never did anything bad or unacceptable. He's just kinda freaky and likes feet, but that also describes 1/2 of all vtuber fans.
>>109731106>eva ananovaIsn't this that whore that had a yab with the birth control pills on a flesh stream?
>>109731329holy sex
>>109731451Piwwo, she's friends with a lot of girls. Not all of them are as perfect as her. That's a hard bar to live up to. No point thinking about it too hard.
>>109731451pillow doesn't discriminate lol
>>109731443If he gets a ban for what he did, ALL of US deserve to be locked away without a key.>>109731451To be fair, a lot of women use the pills even without having a bunch of sex for hormonal purposes. At least, that is what I was told by some women.
this may be selfish, but I'll miss horny commissions
>>109731516Birth control turns off periods. A lot of girls are on it even if they aren't having sex because periods suck.
>>109731544imagine literally bleeding out and feeling like shit randomlyno wonder
>>109731372the ass ones are straight up ridiculous, how can anyone find it attractive
>>109731329A nursing handjob from Pillow is the dream.
>>109731347Touchy>>109731405Retard
>>109731605>tripfag calling me a retardwoah buddy
>>109731617Yeah so you know who I am and you can't throw paranoid schizo accusations at me
Holy fuck just when shit couldn't get worse
what are we doing?
>>109731762Turning this thread into the discord one tripfag at a time it would appear
Rape followed by marriage.
>>109731821What is a tripfag
>>109731898See >>109731634This is a tripfag. Trip refers to "tripcodes" often used in image boards however here on 4chan secure tripcodes are frowned upon because its basic attention seeking behavior.
piwwo civil war
>>109732027We're all more or less united on this.
So the mods are just going full 1984, huh? They’re just watching what you do away from Pillow’s community, and have the ability to be rid of you for good if they want
What is Notta's opinion on Cher's ban?
>>109732058That it's wrong
>>109732046They can have a good time finding out who I am then. Not that it would matter Pillow doesn't know who I am let alone reply to anything I post on twitter.
finally no more gooners in the community
>>109732226>Does he know?
What is happening? I guess this was ultimately because of the bust size post yesterday cause the commissions wasn't even a problem before. Every piwwo knows this guy.
>>109732274We just don't know for sure, I'm hoping clarity will happen soon enough because this situation sucks ass.
>>109732274The commissions not being a problem while the cup size thing is doesn't make sense. I think there's more going on.
>>109732323Well it was on main and it got a lot of traction so.
I think it is a little silly that people said they would leave pillow over this.. it’s not like she’s going to post “hey this is everything that happened!”. Pillow clearly liked the guy and I don’t think she would do this, and even if she was involved I don’t think she would decide such things for no reason. I trust the pil
Why is it that the only person who has offered to raise a ticket is the absolute worst person to raise a ticket?
>>109732350no one is leaving pillow over this except maybe banned guydon't engage with dramafags, it isn't that serious. gooners will cry about it and that's it
Lol he's really trying hard with this
>>109732356because majority of good piwwows are shy and not attention whores
>>109732410It is simply unfair and not right. There was no rule established beforehand to justify this. It's nothing more than mod overreach.
>>109732410>blaming nebulous dramafags>blaming gooners>not blaming modsdiscord mod alert
>>109732356Who offered?
>>109732274Didn't that get a lot of views? Do you think the mods got jealous?
>>109732428Die vagueposter
>>109732410Ca ira, ca ira, ca iraMods to the lampposts
>>109732447Note, even the Piwwo who clipped her swearing during a Live, after she said "please don't clip that", did not get banned. She said she was disappointed in him, and that was it. Meanwhile this is a random strike with no words from her over a meme post that hundreds and hundreds of people have been posting.
>>109732350I will only trust the pil if the mods responsible are removed and/or the moderation system is visibly changed. Otherwise, the same thing is going to happen again.
maybe pillow was actually uncomfortable with it and asked kt to be taken down? now she's bigger and reputation is important to maintain
It would be really disheartening if she ends up ignoring this. On the other hand, I don’t see how she could realistically respond. At the least, Cher should be unbanned but I’m not sure he would even come back after this.So shitty.
>>109732447I think it's more likely that some Piwwos saw that, got offended and stuff. Poked around to see who Cher is and what he does then boom. This.
>>109732410The mods and people attached to them will come over and try to defend this kind of shit, but it's pretty fucking indefensible. Pillow has made her boundaries really clear, she only wants her moderators acting in very specific ways, in very specific places, for exactly this reason. There was no rule established prior to justify it, and therefore it's inherently unreasonable to expect Piwwos to adjust to the randomly oscillating whims of powertripping mods.
>>109732547Cher isn't the sort of Piwwo who would have told her to fuck off if he was asked to take it down. He's complied with everything he's been asked because he's decent, just horny.
>>109732551If I were him, I'd only feel comfortable coming back if Pillow shook up how the mods are. The fact that a mod put up an announcement on the announcements channel instead of Pillow, for the first time ever after 2 instances of overreach in the same day, does not look good. Don't forget that the one Piwwo who posted NSFW the other day also got a warning DM from RoninTenshi, it's best to keep that in mind even if that Piwwo is not as recognized as Cher, since that's an overstepping of their duties as well.
Pillow should watch Gundam!
I would’ve at least been understanding if Cher made that post and included it in her tag. He made sure it would stay out of her community, and just appear on his profile. I’m sure he didn’t expect it to get as much traction as it did, but to ban him from everything and everywhere over one Twitter post is insane
>>109732669I assume it's more of a straw that broke the camel's back situation (or at least they are pretending that's the case so they can ban a guy they had it out for)
>this image terrifies the discord mod
it's wishful thinking pillow would enforce anything in this >>109730535 state
They are asking questions in the discord as to why Cher left.
>>109732748Do I not understand cup sizes or is that estimate way too big?
>>109732748she isn't pettan??? it's literally over
>>109732776they didn't leave they were erased
>>109732776It begins...
>>109732786>>109732794All joking aside, the underbust width is way too low. It's practically at her waist, drastically increasing the bust size.
>>109732786He set her height to 4’10 (142cm) so it skewed results pretty badly
Someone needs to bring up that he was banned, people are making it seem like he just up and left.
>>109732835he got banned and didn’t even get the measurements right kek
>>109732837In reality I'd estimate she's probably like 5'5 or something.
>>109732841anyone bringing that up would be outed as degen 4channer or friend of him
>>109732861Maybe that's why lol
>>109732837she's 3 apples tall we all know this
>>109732861This one is I think more accurate. I used 162 cm for height (average American woman)
>>109733235Got damn that's hot
>>109732868There's literally a guy here namefagging with his Piwwow username, I don't think that's an issue
>>109733274Cher used to love cats ;_;
>>109733593He's not dead lol
>>109733618technically from our perspective they are
>>109733618With how much he has dedicated to Pillow he may as well be...
He left a lot of sweet comments on her videos. I'll be sad if they're gone forever (and her replies).
>>109733736From what I understand about Youtube, the mods probably put him on the "hidden users" list, which will hide all of their comments. But it's just as easy to unhide them so I don't think they are permanently deleted.
>>109733787Oh, good
His contributions will not be forgotten
>>109733822I love this one and the fact that she commented on it.
On the topic of Cher, one thing I was curious about was in an old VOD, I saw that he used to be a mod. Anyone know the story behind that and why he stopped being a mod?
It's so over
>>109733822We truly lost a good one. He didn't deserve it.
>>109733942https://x.com/i/status/2026045896501190697It's never over piwwo
>>109734080cheering pillow on!
>>109733870There's a rrat in there somewhere, I just know it>Cher was a mod>didn't get along with other mods for some reason and left>mods conveniently start acting against him, perhaps feeling slighted>when people insult Cher openly in the discord, they dont stop it>warn him about twitter art to force him to take it down>Cher posts the bust calculation>it puts her at G cup when she is actually small chested>mods are furious because it blows up despite not having her name on it>use it as an excuse to ban him>coordinated to ban him on discord and hide him on YouTube >make an announcement that he is banned on her discord, which usually only Pillow does>Cher locks his twitter and hopes to stay silent until drama blows over
It won't be the same without that hornyschizo
will we see the horny big honker affectionado drawpiwwo again here?
I will commission horny art in his stead, though I will do so anonymously and only post /here/. Other piwwos will be free to share at their own risk.
at least this is anonymous safe space so piwwows don't have to worry here, right?
>>109734523Well yeah just don't be a retard and expose yourself
>>109734523Except for a few piwwos how have outed themselves. But they haven't done anything wrong, so if they get banned I may publicly protest.
>>109734579At least 6 known piwwows have basically admitted they hornypost and yearnpost here. The only anonymity left between them is not knowing who the fetishes belong to.
It's been a little bit since I've been to /pillow/. Could somebody please tell me what happened? Who is Cher and what is going on with Discord?
>>109734702Heh no one knows who I am and what my fetish is
really not a fan of of the general idea that from this point on any piwwo who may accidentally or not appear to be horny can get erased overnight
>>109734888basically a longtime piwwo has been banned from piwwo community because their post sexualized pillow and made discord uncomfortable
>>109734615Thanks piwwo >>109734702Six? I only know two piwwos who post here.
>>109735065There's me so that's 3
>>109735074I don't know who you are.
She’s obviously aware by now so the fact that nothing has been done must mean she approved of it.Part of me wants to believe Cher did or said something in private that forced her hand and justified the ban. The lack of clarity is killing me.What has schizoking been up to? That nigga never has the scoop when we need it.
>>109735144Stuff doesn’t get resolved right away piwwo
>>109735144Give her some more time man. I don't believe that she would've approved the decision with full knowledge, or that Cher would do something to convince her that it was justified. He loves her too much.
>>109735020People sexualize Pillow all the time. What made their post so bad?
>>109735203We don't know. She's always been nice to him despite his commissions (which are explicit, unlike the cup size image) so I think it's more than just that post.
that post was blowing uppillow clearly wouldn't like it and it could have forced her hand
>>109735175>>109735191The announcement from the mods is still up. If it was sent without her knowledge like people here have theorized, it totally would have been taken down by now.Methinks you’re both coping a tiny bit. If Cher does end up coming back, I’ll eat a shoe.
>>109735274It was a fucking meme.
>>109735320So are the discord mods lol
>>109735274Cher has deleted posts before. She could have just told him to take it down and he would.
>>109735281NTA, but I think maybe she is keeping up the mod announcement until she knows Cher didn't do anything wrong. However, that implies that Cher is under investigation for something heinous, which I doubt. Yeah, that post still being up looks really bad.
>>109735203>People sexualize Pillow all the timeWhy?
>>109735260That's the big thing for me. If she had at any point indicated that she had any opposition to hornyposting, then I'd get it. If she had said "I don't want people commissioning lewd art of me please", then I 100% understand. She never said that, she reposted this fully aware of his other commissions and the fact that he wants to suck her toes.>>109733822
Even if it turns out she did actually have a problem with that post, I can't imagine she'd want Cher banned over it, especially since I'm sure he'd delete it if she asked (and he did delete it, though we don't know who asked him to, if anyone). I can respect her if she doesn't want to see posts like that about her, but this treatment of a long-time piwwo who she's always been nice to would surprise me.
>>109735388Why the fuck would you not be attracted sexually to your gf/wife, which is exactly what she constantly encourages Piwwos to view her as. I personally don't hornypost about her because I view it as impolite, but I'm obviously attracted to her.
>>109735388>Why?
Is she okay?
>>109735388they mostly don't only gooners here do and occasional freak exhibitionist on twitter
>>109735435the most recent drawing can be interpreted more positively I suppose?
>>109735435We don't know
>>109735435If I know her at all, and I tend to be pretty damn good at getting in her head, she's likely beating herself up a bunch right now and trying to figure out what to do.>>109735144I think it's perfectly reasonable that she's struggling to think of a diplomatic and optimal way to handle this. I personally hope she takes down that announcement and replace it with something from herself. It puts forth a really shitty look to have one of your mods randomly making vagueposting announcements.
>>109735464She’s crying in it still
>>109731285total gen alpha death.
reminder that outside of this thread there's no drama, it's all in your heads, no one is complaining on twitter, YouTube or discord
People here were literally saying she lurks in these threads and loves her piwwos even if they goon to her. And now this happens? Complete 180
>>109735582>no one is complaining on twitter, YouTube or discordif you do you get banned by a discord mod :)
>>109735582Have you heard of a chilling effect? Try to talk about it anywhere public I guarantee you’ll get sniped by a mod.Plus most aren’t even aware of it. We weren’t until a random piwwo posted about being scolded by a mod in twitter dms.
>>109735604Well yeah, she portrayed a message to us, and now what happened ruined that trust.
>>109735643Don't be dramatic.
>>109735604>People here were literally saying she lurks in these threads and loves her piwwos even if they goon to herYou're dumb if you believed this.
>>109735439You can't call normal people who experience normal levels of arousals "gooners"You're either underage or mentally stunted
she isn't /here/ and y'all are shouting at the clouds
>>109735582>no one is complaining on twitter, YouTube or discordDoes anyone in the Discord even know that he's banned? Last I checked, they think he left by himself?
>>109735679I didn't, I was just saying that it's hilarious seeing the exact opposite of what anons here were saying.
>>109735686>>109735604Both of these are Discord children. I can think of about 5 examples of her very obviously looking at the the threads. We discussed why she hadn't sent BFFE rewards and she sent them the exact next day.
>>109735708If you think one of the most seiso vtubers, if not THE MOST seiso vtuber, is on fucking 4chan you're insane. I'm not saying that as an insult, you are just actually insane.
>>109735708don't bite their bait, piwwo
>>109735705They think he left randomly and deleted all his comments.
>>109735793It's not that far-fetched. She basically said she came here once, and there have been lots of apparent coincidences. I don't assume it's true but I like to believe it.
>>109735679I genuinely did think that
>>109735793>the most seiso vtuber>does yandere, including the more violent and gory aspects>does gfe>just did a torture museum tour, complete with phalluses and anti-masturbation machines>collabs with literal OF models and other lewd creators on and off her channel>likes ponies and has history with being terminally onlineSure pal
>>109735880-BFFE recently-Responding to people shitting on her after REM's concert-This instance was particularly cute, but there's been a few others of Piwwos saying they hope she knows they love her and her aluding to something on Twitter-Most notably her reaction after the streams with her mom was rough because the whole thread was nothing but wall-to-wall crazy shit.
>>109735899>just did a torture museum tour, complete with phalluses and anti-masturbation machinesshe didn't think that those things will be present and was shocked by it and decided to not acknowledge/pretend she didn't understand it for a reason
>>109735918>Most notably her reaction after the streams with her mom was rough because the whole thread was nothing but wall-to-wall crazy shit.This is the one she referenced on stream, right?
I really hope she isn't here desu, 4chan can be very hurtful
>>109735918>the whole thread was nothing but wall-to-wall crazy shitThe stream got its own thread on the catalog so it was mostly tourists who knew nothing about her and couldn't care less about offending her. It's taken 2 years for most of /vt/ to realize she's a good person and doesn't deserve the bait she's constantly getting from someone who tries to blend in /here/.
>>109735945not only hurtful but anons are real freaks
>>109735939A seiso vtuber wouldn't tour that place to begin with or at least ask ahead to the content displayed. Stop trying to make her the most seiso vtuber ever because your gf has to be perfect in everything.
>>109735944I believe so, mostly because it was so vile that she felt like she had to say something.
>>109735899The theme of the medieval tour was torture devices, she wasn't doing is to see a phallus. Yandere and gfe don't always mean sexual. And every female vtuber likes ponies, that doesn't mean anything.
>>109735981stop trying to make pillow some fanservice e-hwore you so desire go watch nene instead she's going to do bikini 3d or something
>>109736006You don't have sex with your girlfriend?
>>109736022Don't be rude about Pillow's friends :(
>>109735899if you really think pillow wanted to see phalluses you're insane
>>109736022>nene out of nowhere>complete deflection with a "no u"You got caught. I accept your concession.
>>109735991Not the case. She was asked on a qna stream if she ego searches. She said she once found a website where everyone was anonymous saying crazy things about her mom. The rest is extrapolated.
literally a shitfest here huh
>>109736035Seisofags are always so bad about being exactly what Pillow doesn't want them to be. Pillow constantly says that Piwwos shouldn't try and control how other Piwwos think of her, and that they should be kind to everyone, and here you see seisofag trying to defend her honor by doing everything she hates. She's not a baby. She was raised on the internet and learned how to draw from fucking furries. She can handle this thread, particularly since it's generally one of the nicer threads on the whole site.
>>109736047>a seiso vtuber wouldn't stream a medieval torture musem nor would she leave it public afterwards>somehow I am implying she wants to see penises???
>>109736022Fuck you Nene is nice
>>109736089So true king. And it's always so offputting how they insist she MUST be the most pure thing to ever exist. If you truly love Pilow, you would love her at whatever seiso-level she is. You wouldn't blatantly deny reality because your oshi couldn't possibly be impure in any way.
>>109736153this is racial profiling...
>>109736163It's not even like she's not seiso, she's just not a fucking shrinking delicate flower. She's modest and shy, but she very obviously knows shit. She's described her childhood enough times everyone should understand by now, you don't get neglected by your mom and left to your own devices on your shit laptop without learning some things.
>>109736006You don't take your girlfriend on dates?
Guys let's all take a huff of lithium here and stop biting the bait
>>109736163>If you truly love Pilow, you would love her at whatever seiso-level she isThis makes no sense. If she started sexualising herself, she'd be an entirely different person who I wouldn't love anymore.
Be kind.
>>109736271The whole point is that she isn't sexualizing herself, the whole conversation was "She's so seiso she'd never open 4chan." Obviously she would man, she's probably seen more porn and gore than most of us, and that's fine and it doesn't mean anyone is accusing her of hoeing out.
>>109736294that's what pillow would want
>>109736294>>109736337She wasn’t very kind to Cher
>>109736306>gorefuck off, pillow would hate/cry because of it, she can barely handle tamer things
>>109736359Don't make things up. We don't know if she had any involvement or if she's still deciding what to do.
>>109736228Yeah, you put it better than I ever could kek. When I list out the non-seiso stuff she does, I don't want to imply she is some nasty woman. Im just saying she is just not an innocent flower child, like you said.
>>109736359we don't know if cher overstepped the boundaries in another ways
>It's an "I know what Pillow is REALLY like" thread
>>109736391Pillow literally did ASMR roleplays where she kills/attacks people and holds a knife to you. Just because she doesn't watch liveleak chinese factory videos doesn't mean she can't handle violence.
>>109736022this is new low even for purityschizos
>>109736391Oh my god, do you watch her streams? She fucking loves horror movies. Now granted, she is more of a psychological/creepy vibes kind of girl, but she watches them all the time and they have a lot of gore. She really fucking loved Hereditary.
after few ASMR streams this "drama" will all be a distant memory so I really don't want to engage with this nonsense in general
>>109736529Agreed, this is getting really stupid now lolGoodnight piwwos
>>109736391There used to be bait and switch gore videos posted to this site on the regularAnyone lurking in alternative communities has definitely seen gore whether they wanted to or not
Dedicating my next fap to Cher.Chodes out for Cher.
>>109736529I will never forget Cher. I'm not gonna harass her or spam this thread, but until that mod team is gone/cleaned up, Pillow is complicit in his passing.
>>109736624>in his passingkek
>>109736647I can still hear him gooning his piwwenis...
Terrible start to the week. Not having her around today just makes it worse.
I just don't think it was right to do that. If I find out that Cher did some heinous shit or just decided to delete all of his accounts and this is all a series of terrible coincidences, whatever. But it also doesn't look great:-RoninTenshi sends a warning to a Piwwo about posting NSFW through Discord DMs, something that hasn't really happened before and seems like an overstep.-Cher gets nuked after posting a mildly sexualized meme-First time a mod has ever directly put an announcement into the announcements channel.I just really hope Pillow is able to clearly see the situation and realize how obviously it looks like the mods are overstepping and powertripping right now.
>>109736719Honestly, it's better she's not around for it, so she has more time to think about how to handle it (if she even knows about it at all)
>>109736775Not to mention, I guarantee the mods are checking here and are most likely the people throwing out bait and trying to run defense for themselves, which means that if the whole situation was some kind of misunderstanding, they'd have just said so and it would have been fine.
You guys think it is possible she doesn't even know what's going on with Cher (or was misinformed by the mods)?
call me pessimistic but I don't think pillow wants to be involved and I understand her perfectlyshe wants a safespace and day like this probably would have have come sooner eventually with stricter guidelines etc
>>109736856At least two people here including myself have sent emails about it.
>>109736856Hopefully won't be the case since I'm currently writing an email about it. I mean I guess her manager could snipe it, but it's something.
>>109736874Nuking someone from orbit for violating a rule that wasn’t explicitly established isn’t a great way to make a safe space.
>>109736908just be polite and don't start to schizoramble
>>109736874"Stricter guidelines" fucking what are you talking about? Ah yes, the new regulations stopping... Mildly sexual meme images measuring the bust size of anime girl PNGs?
>>109736933Yeah, it's just going to be explaining the situation in as professional a manner as I can, and explaining my own upset with this, primarily just the fact that I don't feel like it's fair and decent to do to someone. He was consistently led to the impression that he was an accepted member of the community, for years, until the rules change in the middle of the night.
>>109736929if you complain loud enough you will get that rule into writing, I thought people had more common sense and can read the air
>>109736990Well, there's only 3 permutations to the situation:-Everyone shuts up and chooses to ignore it, and then it likely happens again but there's no explicit rules or guidelines, it's just whatever the mods want-People complain, Pillow decides to punish her mods and make her priorities and desires clear-People complain, Pillow decides she wants to stand with her mod's decision and put up clear rules about what people are allowed to do on and off of the discord.
>>109729176>bare feet fetish artwe don't do that anymore
>>109736391Who is you even talking about? Have you ever watched Pillow?Never mind the fact anon didn't even say she "enjoys" those things, just that she has seen enough times, which is completely natural given how terminally online she is, you stumble on that shit every now and then. But come on, she has multiple times described gorey or otherwise horrendous scenarios that normal people wouldn't even think of. She's definitely publically and socially seiso but she is not oblivious.
>>109737095One of her old ASMRs was literally her roleplaying a nurse cutting off all of the listener's limbs so that they could never get away from her. Even her more recent princess yandere ASMR had her describing brutally killing and decapitating a woman, then making the listener clean it up. I swear to god, people just make up a fake version of her in their heads to worship. She's a person, she's complicated, she has issues, she's an actual living breathing woman and not an anime girl, get over it.
>>109737150don't bring up the past, current pillow has moved on from that content
>>109736933the manager will stop don't worry
>>109737176The princess ASMR was 5 months ago dude. She spent all of yesterday pretending to be a skinwalker and killing her friends and talking about skinning them and wearing their skin.
Still thinking about Pillow panties on my face, my dick and in my heart.
>>109737213he's baiting you brotake some ashwaganda and get that cortisol under control
>>109736990Even in that worst case scenario, having it in clear writing is far better than a mod arbitrarily deciding that an unwritten rule has been broken and actually taking action on itIf the mods want to ban people in multiple places for unwritten rules, they better be willing to stand by and defend their reasoning in a way that the average person can at least accept
>>109737242Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at. I definitely wouldn't be happy if she decided to patrol Piwwos posts in that way, and I think it'd be really upsetting to a lot of Piwwos who like Cher, but at least we'd know the rules. Right now we know basically nothing.
>>109736022You guys act like I'm crazy when I say Piwwos are nasty cunts towards my oshi Nene. Eventually I'm gonna wise up and consider you guys enemies. Fuck you guys, I won't hold it against your oshi, but we're not cool.
>>109737308Idk what the deal is with people shitting on Nene, I'm sorry bro. She's a really good girl and I can tell she's acted as a really good mentor and role model for Pillow behind the scenes.
>>109735939I admire your innocence Anon…
I need to find that clip of Pillow seeing a fleshlight on stream and visibly reacting to it
>>109735604>People here were literally saying she lurks in these threadsWhoever said this was probably related to her. Maybe her boyfriend or brother.
>>109736306Just because she has seen porn and gore doesn't mean she likes it. She might have visited 4chan once or maybe even a few times but that doesn't mean she liked it and chooses to visit it frequently. But even being online all the time doesn't mean looking at nsfw stuff.
>>109737401I'm not saying she likes it man, the egosearching isn't good for her, it's an obsession because she grew up neglected and seeks out attention and praise from others. That isn't limited to purely wholesome places.
>>109737308ignore the faggot he doesn't represent us we always been positive of pillow friends especially those closest to her
>>109737338It has to be because Nene shows cleavage with her model. Nothing else she does is lewd.
>>109737308It’s one piwwo. Most of us like Nene and a few of us watch her casually if Pillow isn’t around.
>>109737308would it make you feel better if I jerk off to the upcoming 3D stream?
>>109737481I shall admit, I listen to her ASMR at work sometimes because her streams are really long and I don't need to constantly switch videos, but it's purely wholesome!
>>109737503You fool that's what he wants!
>>109737481Exactly I don't watch her anymore but I'm still subbed to her. Nene is fine in my books.
>>109737429I get what you're saying, but that also doesn't mean she visits unwholesome spaces. Nearly everybody online is an attention seeker, and there are various different attention-giving sites like Discord, Twitch, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok etc. which have an insanely better reputation than 4chan.
>>109737643If you combine the numerous points where it's pretty obvious she checked the thread, as was discussed before, the fact that this particular discussion thread is one of the more active places where people discuss her, the fact that she has mentioned that she knows about it on stream, and her consistent desire to stalk Piwwos and know what we're discussing all the time, I feel like it's fairly compelling and obvious.
>>109737643>Nearly everybody online is an attention seeker, and there are various different attention-giving sites like Discord, Twitch, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok etc. which have an insanely better reputation than 4chan.Anyone who is terminally online knows that the opinions you get from truly anonymous places is completely different and none of those other sites you mentioned are as anonymous as /here/
>>109737643Dude she probably shitposts on >>>/mlp/
>>109737710>She checks this thread>She knows about this thread>She stalks Piwwos in her free timeDo you have actual proof to back up any of those claims?
>>109737643This board is one of the few cases where people were introduced to and only use this site for it. Similar ones are /a/ and /pol/. I don't get how it's impossible for her to lurk on here when both youtube and twitter constantly take posts from this board to share in vtuber spaces.
>>109737459https://files.catbox.moe/kbes5k.mp4sure
>>109737643I would prefer if pillow wasn't herethis place specifically is nice because I'm not afraid of pillow judging me
>>109737865It's not impossible, I was just asking for actual proof instead of "she knows about this board so that means she visits it"
>>109737971google.com page 2 has /vt/
>>109738033Still doesn't mean she visits it.
She hasn’t been active today aside from her two drawings :(
>>109738232let her rest for god's sake
What's stopping me from pretending to be a kid on her discord and start accusing random piwwows of making me uncomfortable?
>>109738232She's too busy trying to figure out where I live so she can kidnap and through me in the basement
>>109738295human decency
>>109737865Being honest, I think at best she might check this place out once in a blue moon, maybe when she's feeling particularly stalkerish and wanting to ego search. Don't think she'd be active here every time a new thread is up.
>>109738430OkWhat's stopping me from pretending to be a kid on her discord and start accusing powertripping mods of making me uncomfortable?
This might be a record for how fast one of these threads has gone to 300 replies. I love drama.
>>109738887I'd say this is the biggest and most valid drama I've seen since I got invested into Pillow. Everything before that has been extremely tame, like the one thing that upset people was her getting rid of her old videos.
Suplexing Pillow into a woodchipper
Gently carrying Pillow to my bed and having a nice nap
This is creating cognitive dissonance for me. Cher was such a vocal gachikoi so Pillow suddenly being okay with banning him from everything out of nowhere for such a lame reason conflicts with the image of her I had in my head as a kind-to-a-fault girl that genuinely loves and reciprocates her fans feelings.
Yeah so anyway you ever think Pillow peed in a sink?
>>109739437I feel the same. That’s why I want to believe there’s more to the situation, but the radio silence isn’t inspiring confidence.
>>109739510probably?
>>109739543I wonder if she's done some naughty peeing like a lot of girls do
>>109739581>naughty peeing like a lot of girls dowhat does that even mean
>>109740025You know like peeing in places other than a toilet, lots of girls have pee stories where the toilet isn't an option or they just pee in places because it's naughty and gets them aroused
>>109738232Pillow is usually active when she’s busy. It breaks my heart to think that this has her down so badly. I hope she’ll feel better soon, and I hope the Piwwos she has continue to shower her in love
>>109740450(me)even when she’s busy*
Had a long, wonderful sleep.Hope I didn't miss anything...
>>109740508Piwwo for the love of Pillow go back to sleep
>>109739437TLDR on the drama?
>>109740450Not going anywhere, she can always rely on me.
>>109740598Pillow shouldn't be biting piwwos like that
>>109740620It hurts so fucking bad bro!!!! Don’t save me though, I don’t wanna be saved
Not the announcement we were expecting but interesting
>>109740568Discordmods are turbofags
>>109740707Ah I see you enjoy a good bite
>>109740729Nice I have no reason whatsoever to use the discord at all now.
>>109740729Oh… that’s really fucking sad.
>>109740729If she’s stepping down due to stress, then she’s likely handing the server over to the mods from the sounds of it. If the server is theirs, then they’ve just gained even more power. I’ll try to save speculating too much until the new owners and new rules are announced, but I don’t feel like this is a good thing
Remember: Cher was also banned/hidden on the YouTube (not sure if this has been reversed lately). Multiple of the rogue mods who banned him from the discord are likely still mods on her YouTube.
>>109740729Finally I can uninstall discordThank you dear for freeing me
>>109741012Piwwo, this isn’t about him anymore
>>109741012Yeah, I think she definitely has to take away actual ban privileges from her mods, and probably set up a rule that you can’t be a mod on both the discord and the YouTube chat, just for added layers.
Poor Piller… :(
She's tired of it. If you've been watching her for a while now, you know she's not proud of that place anymore. It's basically a cesspool of people who frankly, don't even care about Pillow much. Some do but you know.
>>109741036No it's about the Youtube moderation which is what actually matters. Discord was annoying at worst, and if Pillow herself stops using it it becomes totally irrelevant. But none of this addresses the important issue which is mods banning people for non-rules on YouTube.
>>109741012She probably gonna reassess the entire mod team and weed out the bad ones(hopefully)
They created a new discord channel called "mod-introductions" so I guess we'll see who's on there.
>>109741036True. It's about all of us...>>109741135I think anyone who is still a mod after today should be a massive red flag
>>109741100Yeah there's way too many non-piwwos in there that don't even watch her or even know who she is
>>109741100When she mentioned the “Piwwo” who showed up to her Discord M&G just for the role, that pissed me off so hard you don’t fucking get it.
>>109740729Hope she remembers to remove the discord link from her marketing pages and video descriptions, since its a 3rd party community server now.
Is truly all over?
>>109741318(me) I cannot fucking type today, got damn
>>109741165It’s just going to purity spiral out now. A mod sees a take they don’t like from you on Twitter? Well, now they’re slandering you in the mod chat, now they’re spreading rumors about you in the general chat while you’re not around. On the bright side though, my greatest worry has always been that someone highly opinionated would take offense to me and talk shit about me to Pillow, the nice thing now is that she doesn’t ever speak to her YouTube moderators.
>>109741318The discord is. Without Pillow around, most actual Piwwos won’t care enough to stick around. If she leaves the server, all the actually active Piwwos are just gonna leave. It’ll become “Piwwos” in name only pretty much.
I mean she seems to have made it unofficial so that the repercussions of the server are separate from everything else. If she doesn’t agree with the “no nsfw rul”, isn’t it best to remove herself from the equation?
>>109741318>>109741344It's only begun piwwo
I don’t think anything is over. This isn’t even a yab about her. Pillow just doesn’t feel right trying to enforce rules in a server. It’s clear she would rather spend time with piwwos and be happy
I love how each SNS has their own brand of cancer they're specialized in, and for Discord it is these petty teenage dramas that happen over absolutely nothing and splits apart communities.
Does this mean it wasn't Pillow herself who bannned Cher?
Rules got re-posted. I think this rule is new? It addresses the non-piwwos in the server.
>>109741550I’m glad pillow got away from that finally kek. Too many complaints about that place. Good riddance.
>>109741556He got banned around the time when she was going to bed. It literally couldn’t have been her manually doing it.
>>109741556I don’t think she did, none of us thought this. I think this confirms it. > doesn’t want to confront the banning of cher and doesn’t agree with it> becomes stressed> leaves to avoid it happening again
"thank_you_piwwos" is what she named this art she posted under the announcement. I actually have such bad feeling in the pit of my stomach right now, this is like a preview of the kind of thing she would post if she graduates one day.
>>109741609I think it’s more that she knows that if she wanted to really handle the situation in a proper way, she’d have to have really laid down the law and been confrontational. That’s not her, she isn’t good at that, and she doesn’t want to do that. I suspect she’s going to unban Cher soon and he’ll just stay banned off the Discord because they don’t like him.
>>109741609She is literally the perfect sweetheart
>>109741645It’s a sad thought but with how much she’s pouring into her 3.0, it’s not happening any time soon
>>109741645It’ll be okay. She used to love and adore the Discord, she built it up herself, but over the last year or so she’s been using it less and less because it’s not really what she wanted it to be. It became pretty much just the hangout spot for a bunch of gay teenagers.
>>109741681 I don’t think there’s any way for us to know he’s unbanned unless he comments somewhere anyways. Cher if you’re here, we love you.
>>109741645Please don't talk about her graduation, I don't wanna think about that. Not now not ever until it happens.
>>109741645What if she is just thankful to her Piwwos and this art has nothing to do with graduation?
>>109741752She has nothing else in her life. Even when the time comes that I put a ring on her finger, I would never want to take it away from her.
>>109741745>It became pretty much just the hangout spot for a bunch of gay teenagers.dead-on accurate, yes.any discord server when unmoderated to fit whatever vision you have will eventually end up like this
>>109741745Aren't all Discord servers just a bunch of gay people no matter the theme of the server?
