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>>109776330>he thinks it's homocollabs holding kobo and risu back>not both of them all but fucking disappearing through their tenure and not reinvesting with projects because Risu was giving all her money to her leech family and Kobo was still in school
We love homos and homocollabs in here btw
>>109776369>He thinks Kobo needs ccvHer music does better than Gura's. She can probably live off that ad revenue alone
>>109776321the legendary jdon collabTea vs Coffee debateThat weird theater thing we just saw todayall the council meetings from back in the dayall organized by bae.and she was the team captain for Suba's team in the last sports festival because she's just good at hyping shit up.
>>109776402gura made music?
>>109775829At least change the spade to something fitting
>>109776376We love them more than nijicucks and phase whores
>>109776402not even Suisei is big enough to make a livable wage off music viewsher branding is her true value
Sometimes I wonder why do you people reply to schizo posting?? These niggers don't even give a fuck about hololive or anything related to it
>>109776351Large
>>109775574I know it's like 99% but until it's confirmed it will never be more than a rrat.
>>109776351Instead of complaining about male collaboration complain about collaboration with tamaki, that pedophilic sack of shit is the most hated jp vtuber and openly abuses everyone that works for her, and is a complete schizo herself. I wouldn't want any vtuber interacting with her, let alone one I watch. Good thing I don't watch corpo vtubers and don't like most popular ones but still, it'd be fucked seeing azumalin pop up on one of her streams, especially since tamaki jacks off to actual kids as well like matsuri.
Nimi, WeatherPlanet, now Sakuna all jumping into Minecraft all of a sudden, what is the ultimate goal here?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckQaVymCPCE
>>109776484What the hell did Tamaki do
last post from me cause I'm getting too drunk to type coherently, I just want her to do well please watch her 3dlive even if it has homo's!
>>109776489>PLEASE WATCH ME PLEASE PLEASE WATCH ME, REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A HOLO? REMEMBER THE MINECRAFT SERVERS?
>>109776483The evidence is so irrefutable that at this point you're basically asking for a sex tape
>>109776376
>>109776464Who replies? Pretty big assumption, implying its literally not samefagging or two cuckcorders talking to eachother.
>>109776254If you are actually being seriousIncluding 2 JP homos in her live is not going to be affecting anyone's opinion of Bae one way or another. For better or for worse, no one gives a fuck. It would be different if it were EN homos, or if she were regularly doing streaming collabs with homos. Anyone who would hold a strong negative opinion about Bae including 2 homos here probably already doesn't care about Bae for other reasons anyway, or wrote her off as as homocollaber a long time ago.What's more likely to be "holding her back" is1) Her voice/streaming style is filtering for some people2) Streaming content doesn't stand out from the pack most of the time. Also takes way too long to finish game series.3) She doesn't really have much exposure outside of Hololive. I think the only people who are exposed to Bae are people who are really into the Hololive ecosystem. To break out of the ecosystem you need either a song or a meme that goes really viral. But even that's not necessary if you want to build a career out of maximizing holobox exposure.>>109776497It's too early to be drinking
>>109776444Yea she made Reflect and uhhhhhhhh that graduation song with the devil may cry meme song guy
>>109776497it’s at 10 pm, way past my bedtime
OMG! OMG! OMG!https://youtu.be/KJ97zeA1G-Y?si=8flbLtt88TXw5yqE&t=3
>>109776489Kson is playing another holo fan game and has 5 times her regular ccvThey're all desperate because they're slowly falling off
/our/ husband is streaming in 2 hours 15 minutes
>>109776497Fuck off anti. We, the True brrats, love holostars.
>>109776518Dawg, how have ERB and Bae never collabed before? Like they could literally form Team "Red hair Unikillers' or someshit and they'd probably clik more than anyone else.
>>109776568towa?
>>109776522it's 2 am for me and yes I agree with most of your points I'm just being a silly
>>109776573No they wouldn't, erb is a charisma vaccum that has no idea wtf shes doing as a vtuber.
>>109776497does Bae's 3D show pull the same numbers as last year or less? what we thinking # bros?
>>109776573>they'd probably clik more than anyone else.Why the fuck? They have nothing in common beyond collabing with the homos, Bae has friends in Justice and they're CC and Gigi
>>109776588a fucking aussie
>>109776592imma bot her to 50k
>>109776522Ima be real anonIt's none of those things. The thing holding Bae back is weird streaming gaps. Outside of Febaery she has infrequeint bouts of doing some streams and then prioritizing way too much other shit like holo work or dance practice or PT or whatever the fuck. Not to mention she will start a game series, get good numbers on the first few streams and then fuck off for MONTHS until the next part until regulars who started watching her because of that series lose interestIf this Febaery is any indication, Bae can punch above her weight and do well so long as she actively streams and does cool shit. If you are talking about her getting new fans altogether then yeah that needs a song or meme to go viral
disband homostars
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like it
>>109776592It dependsLast year she was in JP hours with an 80k Miko stream overlapping her
>>109776592It barely edges out Nimi's 3D
>>109776573ERB just doesn't do 1on1 collabs, pretty sure she showed up in one of Bae's MiSide streams? but otherwise just group collabs.
kissing this thing
why is no one streaming?
>>109776617That's what I meant by taking way too long to finish game series. I've been waiting for her to finish some of her games for months.
>take the iNDIEpill bro, >the INDIEpill:
>>109776615:) can't get voiced filtered if everyone I talk too sounds like that
>>109776647sex
>>109776647well we know why Raora isn't streaming, she's in an ice detention center somehwere right now.
>>109776647It's holoEN, no one ever streams
>>109776497irys and bae are heteros nigger
>>109776573They have nothing in common. ERB is a boomer and Bae is a turbozoomer.
Today, I will remind them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qqXVn9QzWQ
>>109776699Irys would fuck a girl if they'd dress up as kaworu
>>109776662ADD TO MY COLLECTION
>>109776592new outfit buff, so it should surpass last year
>>109776496What hasn't she done is the real question. No seriously, name something shitty a vtuber company can do and outside of skin walking and maybe making someone kill themselves tamaki has done it. Hired underage girls and give them porn tags? Tamaki goes on her twitter and begs for porn of them and tells people not to hesitate because their underage. Firing streamers unjustly? Tamaki had a schizo fit and fired everyone in noripro. Abusing the people thay work for her? She fucking goes on stream and brags about it and laughs like something youd see put of a cartoon. Some anon a while back in another thread made a pretty big list of alot of the stuff she's done and it didn't even cover everything, it's bad. She definitely earned being Japan's most hated vtuber.
>>109776699you just aren't a true delusional believer like me
If someone was streaming right now, you would be accusing them of pandering to SEA or some shit, wtf are you even talking about? There was just a day full of NA time streams.
>>109776662>faggot with flags>vocally antiloli>turns out to be a kid diddler and csam/csem haverthe story writes itself
>>109776708Reminds me of somethinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do_vuPoYrYQ
en5 will save us
>>109776768I love this timeline where CC abandoned her EU streaming time. It's awesome it's not like hololive didn't have enough NA streamers already
>>109776841https://youtu.be/0xeGE_5kSI0?t=2
>>109776573Bae is pretty, young and skinnyErb is ugly, old and fat
Oh fuck off you cock lover
>>109776841https://files.catbox.moe/pgi3q2.mp4
>>109776522>streaming contentIt’s easy to blame this but it’s not her biggest problem. For her average, when she plays FOTM buffs she still gets mid numbers, thinking of Agreeee or Suika. Despite being one of the better EN singers throughout her career, and now she’s arguably 3rd best after Nerissa, FMA was her only non-event/announcement karaoke to get good numbers. It doesn’t help that her gen competition is stacked. With IRyS, Kronii, and formerly Mumei all having guaranteed 10ks, she never got to that strength It shows as well with her ceiling. Fauna was the worst because she had almost no JP mindshare, but Bae has always struggled to keep up with the same three above.I don’t know what she can do but over the years we have talked about the Bae question far more than most runts because I think the theory of a stronger Bae sounds more realistic than the others but it still never materializes
https://x.com/uki_kabo/status/2026623745067200549?s=20
>>109776862Ernoul is such a stupid cocksucker it's unreal
>>109776847You want her streaming right now in the middle of the night while shes in Japan? To then be tired as fuck during the day not being able to do anything with the girls there?
also found another en5 candidate called mwocha
>homos in Bae's liveSo... CCGG is off the table is it?
>>109776889She's not the 3rd best singer in EN
>>109776902Yeah yeah I'm soo evil I get it. Just be happy you got another streamer gifted to you NAfag. Obviously I want her do do both, have time with her friends and time to stream.
>>109776889Her music numbers are arguably pretty good for EN which is why I don't really consider her music a weakness for her. Karaoke numbers are a tourism issue but someone like Mori can have weak karaoke numbers and show strong music numbers elsewhere so I don't think it's the be-all and end-all for Bae.I do think Bae is steadily building up JP mindshare and getting more JP fans these days,
>>109776847>>109776964Silence yurocuck
>>109776943For the last time that's not how it worksThe recordings with the homos were recorded separately from the others. Bae had Mumei and IRyS in her first live that featured homos
>>109776943Depends. Could be like the Kobo one, where Biboo retweeted only the Yagoo and girls portions.
>>109776874
>>109776964I mean you get its unreasonable but still whine like a fag.
>>109776964Euroniggers are so fucking whiny
>>109776987>>109776993Most prefer to avoid the trouble entirely. Nerissa was at every single 3D debut except ERB's because ERB had Homos, even if, like you said, it was all separate.
>>109776889eh I would call Bae 4th or 5th best singer depending on your tastes, some people rank mori higher, but her unarchived karaokes typically hit 10k unless she's unlucky with overlapshe does fine with FOTM games it's her floor that needs improvement not her ceiling
>>109776897Reminder, him and his blacked loving shitcord buddies are responsible for every single containment break that caused problems for holos and is one of the reasons we got the brick the way we did
>towa deleted the anti-homo postsBased. Towa is pro unity
>>109776351HoloEN Nimi
>>109776699bae is lesbian she kissed gigi yesterday
sell homostar to Niji and renamed them to Nijistars
>>109777069>Nimi: had sex with vesper>Shiori: did not have sex with vesper
>>109776969Music views is all algorithm, no girl can intentionally get it and no one who has it can explain how. Even in her pre-YT algo change days, Play Dice was her massive debut hit and Psycho made it big, but her Zodiac album was below average and she hasn’t had a hit sinceHer JP mindshare is primarily off of getting in with Subaru. It may work out but that has little to do with her own solo content.
>>109776862I don't understand how a twitter dedicated to harassing vtubers is still up but if i type nigger on twitter i get suspended
https://x.com/holstday/status/2026632459887263792 cute
>>109776578 N owa
>>109777069novelites are cuckolds but not in the same level as naplings
https://x.com/JusagiChan/status/2026336066114863423?s=20
https://files.catbox.moe/ci6kn1.mp3>FRIENDLY REMINDER!!we love Mori herewe love Kiara herewe love Dooby herewe love Ina herewe love Saba herewe love Namie herewe love Nimi herewe love IRyS herewe love Shachi herewe love Bae herewe love Kronii herewe love Fuwawa herewe love Mococo herewe love Nerissa herewe love Biboo herewe love Shiori herewe love ERB herewe love Cecilia herewe love Raora herewe love Gigi herewe love Randon OUR HUSBAND herewe hate Kiaraschizo/Egguardo/Baeschizo herewe hate Selenfag/Ennacuck herewe hate homobegging nijishitters herewe hate all schizos here>Umm, achuwee, we hate-We hate YOU, you falseflagging cocksucking son of a dead drunken fat whore>WeYes we, You can kill yourself and go to hellWe all would be happy if you killed yourself and died right now, nobody would fucking miss you, especially not your whore mother who takes dicks inside and out 24/7We won't fucking miss you when you are gone, we will celebrateif I could hire a hitman on you right now, I wouldI wish you nothing but the worst and most painful death possible and eagerly look forward to the day you die alone and miserableAmen
>>109777104Last I saw her JP mindshare was because of her fes performances. a lot of JOPs went crazy for show last year
>>109777107It drives clicks and ragebait engagementYou typing nigger does not drive clicks
>>109776889Bae might have the actual highest ccv in EN as she's the only one who doesn't get botted and still pulls around 5k ccv while Botri and Bibot usually start with under 4k ccv before their bot engine kicks in.
https://x.com/itsHollu/status/2026434054686433731?s=20
>>109777155
>>109777165What's going on with her shirt? Need an uncropped version.
>>109777173
>>109776945I'd say she firmly is at 5th spot below IRyS, Nerissa, ERB and Mori. She sounds very good when she locks in and isn't singing for the lols or fun. for example, here's an incredibly hard to sing Gintama OP that she practiced and nailedhttps://youtu.be/WROdrnuySrA?t=1977
>>109777155Bae is a runt since the beginning bro, don't try to change the facts
>>109777181thought it was a big cock out
is that kroniefag seething about nimi again all day
>>109777146Fes doesn’t translate to streams because it’s once a year and doesn’t have anything to do with a girl’s day to day. Kronii’s Fansa is one of the biggest EN pop offs at a Fes in history but that doesn’t mean she inclined off of it.
>>109777146she pulls in JOPSs from FES and getting in on JP collabs but she also maintains them by actually responding to JP chatters, that's a significant factor in her JP mindchair
>>109776889>It’s easy to blame this but it’s not her biggest problemOf course it is, content choice matters a ton and it's ridiculous that we are still acting like it doesn't. One of the best ways to grow an audience is to consistently stream things that people want to watch. Fauna built her entire audience on that plus picking a slot with little overlap, and even at her peak she could get some truly miserable numbers when she stopped tryharding for a couple of days and just played some tumblr slop her audience wasn't interested in. Bae saw pretty solid numbers when she tried to do a "inexperienced normalfag non gamer plays hardcore games" arc with Sekiro but then she dropped it because it was too stressful and went back to spamming her Yakuza soap operas while shlicking to half naked dudes and her numbers went to shit again. Kronii has a hugh ceiling whenever she actually does something interesting and yet her usual kroniicore indieslop often gets her 4-5k views. Content choice is like 80% of your numbers (assuming a baseline level of quality) and people here just pretend it doesn't matter because they want to act like their favorite girl is just a natural born star and the bulk of the audience would watch her filing her taxes.
We love ERB in here anons.
>>109777277why are muslims like thisain't Al-Zutt you, anon
>>109776647too thin
>>109777287>those side boobsToo big wtf
>>109777314>>109777277
>>109776889>When she plays FOTM buffs she still gets mid numbersThis is NOT true lol. She got some of the highest numbers playing Agreeee in the branchHer karaoke does decent depending on the overlap or timeslot as another anon said. Zodiac sold pretty well and is also performing good on spotify and youtube music. Sure it's not Mori or Kiara level but it's up there in terms of holo as a wholeI personally think her problem is more along the lines of what what's posted here >>109776617 She takes a break any time she takes momentum and she doesn't really capitalize on the buffs she gets. Bae does not know how to work smart
>>109777150Is Elon paying him for the engagement?
I fucking hate Bae so much, it’s unreal how she purposefully derails herself doing shit like this. At least we can actually say that here, tower is homo central.
>>109777257Bae needs to get on the Souls train, like just look how well it worked for Nimi, Nimi is a better souls vtuber than Biboo or Mori at this point. Bae has a lot rage out moments that would make her a strong souls streamer.
>>109777352seethe harder faggot
>>109777322I mean her boobs are fucking huge, people just don't notice because Raora always has hers out and keeps making them bigger.
>"i found a candidate">none of those want to graduate or be on hiatus
>>109777366>fag for disliking the homos
>>109777392uh oh melty
>>109777257You would have a point if she was dropping 15ks on FOTM and karaoke fighting far above her bracket. But she doesn’t because she herself is weaker beyond only her content choice.Subaru’s three primary solo content is zatsu, JRPG, and watchalong, but she made it to first army off of that and is stronger than some other first army who primarily play buff games. Do you think someone like Lamy spamming FOTM would become stronger than Subaru in an instant?Content choice is not even half of the battle.
>>109777352Does she do this as a form of charity?
>>109776615You say that but Aussie voice can be hotPicrel
>>109777365She tried, she did well with Sekiro then did one episode of Dark Souls, got mogged by Balder knights in the parish, had a breakdown on stream and swore off real video games forever
>>109777392Your a fag to keep whining still, how many more times are you going to post the same shit? Either watch her or dont, what else is there to it?
>>109777352
>>109777400>15ks on FOTMShe literally did tho
>>109777440>Runie is a homowhoreLOL
>>109776897>>109777058Something something act like retards long enough ...
Bae is a runt because she’s got the worst aspect of Kiara being a Stacy, doesn't stream regularly or do GFE, homo collabs, and her only talent is dancing which she doesn’t take as much advantage of showing off in shorts as Sui/Hajime do
>>109777411this guy meet one of the phase connect and peo irl
>>109777456Check her subs and compare them to the rest of Promise
>>109777058but you fags love the containment dramatards from twitter
>>109777405She does it because she’s a whore, if she actually cared about the men as a branch then she’d be collabing with them regularly
>>109777411
>>109777405Not really. I remember her mentioning that she liked Astel's choreo and Izuru's singing after watching the homolive with ID and wanted to perform with them as a result and here it is. It's just x thing she liked and wanted to include in her live, same reason for why she included the literal who girl in her last live
Cry harder with your bots FaggotsI Won
>>109777399>>109777430>homobeggars are here because they got banned on towa
>>109777475Of course. I am them
>>109777413She speaks in japanese tho
>>109777503actually, it's the homo haters that got banned LOL
>>109777503Im not the one posting the faggots 24/7, I dont watch Bae either.
>>109777472She’s about the same as the current members, sub count doesn’t mean shit
>>109777472Reminder that she beat graduation buff Fauna in the race to 1M
>>109777499
>>109777475We only love them when they shit on beggarsWe hate them when they act like retards, which ernoul definitely does
>>109777400Your total viewers are a combination of core viewers (who will watch almost anything you do) and tourists (who choose what to watch based on content choice). You grow your audience by converting tourists into core viewers, and in order to do that you obviously need to be good enough to pull off that conversion, but first you need to stream appealing content to attract the tourists in the first place. Bae is not the most entertaining streamer in holoEN but she does get solid numbers with buff content, it's just that she does buff content every once in a blue moon when she feels like it and then goes back to slop that drives the tourists away because she is more focused on practicing for two yearly concerts and trying to minmax stream content at the same time ends up being too stressful so she streams her comfort games to relax instead, and has a mental breakdown live on stream whenever she tries to do anything else.
All of Promise are failures. Kronii is just a bitch, Irys is a whore, and Bae is annoying
>>109777456>>109777534You can get 9 golds in a month and still have people in /#/ call you a runt. Shit's crazy
I just wanna see Hakka and Biboo perform together already, look at them, they even have the same outfit!
>>109777536helps that she can sing
https://x.com/mumeilzs5/status/1326355021093498880
>>109777583cute
>109777583>pathetic phasecuck
>>109777580Her numbers are garbage, nobody cares about your autistic Olympic competition shit
>>109777583cool
I fucking hate Chink, Indog an Pagpap whores
>>109777400Bae is perfectly capable of pulling 15k's on karaoke and FOTM streamsI do think subaru is an apt comparison as they sort of follow the same arcetype of the 'normie' of the branchShe has so many angles to buff her content and she literally capitalizes on none of them
>>109777583GIVE ME YOUR BEST ROAR!!!
>>109777610What did he mean by this
>>109777287>we
>>109777583based
>>109777610Hey the daily #s Gold competition is sacred and slander against it will not be tolerated!
>>109777629How is Bae comparable to Subaru at all
>>109777583as a brrat I also want to see them collab soon
>>109777583>>109777598>>109777611>>109777635>>109777641samefag
>>109777624
>>109777629nta but that's literally what I've been saying. Bae does not work smart. She thinks the way she gets to grow is by burning herself out with multiple lives a year while sacrificing streams
>good personSabaShachiBaelzKroniiIRySMococoShioriBibooGigiRaora>evil personNimiMoriKiaraInaFuwawaNerissaElizabethCecilia
>>109777595That's AI anon
>>109777653>Bae comparable to Subaru at allholo vs holo
FlyJeet fucked them all
>>109777670All these people are evil except for Bae and maybe ERB
>>109777670What makes Nerissa an evil person? She isn't evil, just Christian and a little lazy
>>109777653just in terms of them not really 'getting it' initially, subaru when she started had no clue about anime or gaming, Bae was the same, though she was at least a mega weeb, part of the fun is watching them slowly conform to the culture
>>109777663
>>109777687Uh that’s literally what people were talking about, how Bae is the EN Subaru yet doesn’t have her same lvl of popularity
>>109777717I don't think that's what he said
>>109777709Bae literally was a vtuber before joining Hololive, their circumstances are night and day she’s just a grifter
>>109777717>Bae vs hololive
Asmongold exposes the Grifting phase whores
>>109777200Bae sings way, way better than Mori. Mori has better overall flow and breathing but when it comes to actual singing talent, Bae is miles ahead. She did a KOKIA cover incredibly well which is one of the hardest anisong artists to cover.
>>109777663retarded pebble still don't get it
>>109777740frenchfag
>open /vt/>every other post contains some variant of the word cuck>close /vt/
>>109777666yeah 100% agree, she has a tendency to hyperfocus on things, just unfortunate that she's doing it on the wrong stuff, genuinely a manager issuee she needs someone to steer her onto the right course
>>109777764Your a phase cuckold that was posting this homo shit on twitter, kys.
>>109777716Just a fag then, kek.
BAEEEE!!!!! WHAT ABOUT THE EN BOYS BAEEEE!!!!! WHAT ABOUT THE THIRD WORLDERS,THINK ABOUT THEM,BAEEEE!!!!
>Hakka: Hey Biboo let me hear your best growl>Biboo: okay, how's this roooaaar!>Hakka (giggles abit): That's not bad, but, this is a heavy metal song, you gotta sound more...ferocious, more dangerous!>Biboo(blushing a bit): Uh, well, I can be dangerous!>Hakka (devious smile): really? how dangerous can you be?>Biboo (smug smile pressing herself against Hakka) I don't know Hakka, how dangerous do you wan me to be right now?>Hakka: I bet you could give me quite the savage roar, if you got really dangerous>Biboo: I think we can test that out, right now hehehe! I'll be the Tiger and you'll be the meat I'm about to ravage! I'll show you what a real Beeping Roar sounds like!
Fuck it, I'm posting Ass pics!
>>109777734So were alot of other HolosI don't understand the grift part when she is literally destroying her body for her performances
>>109777751actually BAE way better than NIMI SABA and MINT 1million times
Bae sucks at signing, barely streams, homocollabs, is annoying. Subaru can sing, actually streams, doesn’t homo collab, and is the sun of Hololive. Bratcucks really trying to compare the 2 lmao
>>109777815unironically true
We love Phase Blacked Connect here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlEyrEGRPS0
>>109777816also is just ugly
>>109777775>cuckpen cuck cuckoard>cuckget cuckangry cuckwhen cuckyou cuckfind cuck cuckpostscucktard
>>109777691he even fucked the orc??
>>109777816>doesn’t homo collab
>>109777815Not better than Saba, Saba WAS the best singer in Holo. At least she had the best sounding voice.
>>109777840The middest white girl that would be a 5/10 at school that you wouldnt even look back at is 10/10 in vtubing
I am starting to think this guy just uses any angle to call someone a cuck
sharkie graduation soon
>>109777855>Saba WAS the best singer in HoloSaba was never in Holo
homostar should graduate and start podcasts; that brings more profit
>>109777855watch retards replying to this
>>109777764slit your throat, faggot :)
>>109777845Who Bae or Subaru? Bae is one of the most attractive Holos, Subaru is decent not ugly but not hot
>>109776522I can only speak for myself, I was even a member for Bae at some point, the only thing that makes me not watch her and unsub to her is her male collabs.
>>109777873or just groom a rich hologirl into marrying him so he never has to work again. worked for Vesper
>>109777816>t. Phasefaggot.Miko peko seeth dissappear btw.
>>109777778Picture this for a moment:>Bae cuts down her dance practices and recordings to half>Bae cuts down her 3D appearances to half>Bae instead focuses on doing FOTM, having a regular schedule for her game series and organizing large collabs>Stream 4-5 days a weekImmediately her average improves by leaps and bounds, every month would basically Febaery lite
>>109777892seethe about it I guess
>>109777787>>109777880>kys>slit your throatlovely fellas
>>109777855nimi its better than saba btw nimi sounds good
>>109777840but that's a indie retard
>>109777868It's just ennacuck recycles to other shallow schizo personalities, because he doesn't have anything unique except for spamming cuck.
If Mr. Nightmare was outed as black I would become a napcuck so fast...https://litter.catbox.moe/13rajo.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/i3dwp7.jpg
>>109777737tiny 630x340 image is not a good image to post anon
>>109777911you are pathetic.
>>109777911Nta but he kinda based, he doesn't hide from holo vs holo like you.
>>105187444Initial Stock on holoshop/gjBook-design BagMori 250/10Bae 300/10Shiori 250/10Nerissa 250/10ERB 200/10Pin BadgeMori 400/50Bae 450/50Shiori 400/50Nerissa 400/50ERB 350/50>>108626145Acrylic Name Badge Initial Stock ENMori 350Kiara 100Ina 450IRyS 200Kronii 250Bae 400Shiori 300Biboo 700Nerissa 300Fuwawa 800Mococo 800ERB 300GG 500CC 300Raora 450>>102449554 Then these sales numbers are based on those initial stocks. I didnt bother with multiplying the price and I combined the shirt sizes into a total.One thing to note is that as they've pointed out, the initial stocks for the people lower in their list is more accurate since they were checked first so Bae has the most accurate and Raora has the least accurate initial stock.Mori 132Kiara 94Ina 136IRyS 126Kronii 102Bae 116Shiori 79Biboo 75Nerissa 116FWMC 158ERB 68GG 160CC 85Raora 33
>>109777902doesn't it sound wonderfulit's such a double edged sword though cause she's the best performer in EN by leaps and boundsI love seeing her efforts bear fruits in her performances but I would also love to see her be a great streamer
The femdom gen
>>109777966grim
>>109777971Sadly, being the best performer doesn't do shit for you if you are an EN. If she was maybe a JP she could pop off in the shorts algo like Hajime but she isn't
>>109777961>holo vs holo??????
>>109777977Why does Advent keep getting depicted like this, none of them are like that
>>107089477Bae got a Cover approved fan cafe collab in Japan.https://x.com/Brats2024JP/status/1989260496902799740>>72590329Bae's album "ZODIAC" sold out on holoshophttps://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hakosbaelz_zodiac>>71157861As of now Bae's 1st album with an initial stock of 3500/500 on holoshop/gj has sold 2,983 on holoshop and sold out on geekjack(https://shop.geekjack.net/collections/hakos-baelz/products/hakos-baelz-1st-album-zodiac)) for a total of 3,483 and at $38 a piece moved $132,354.00 worth of merch.
>>109778008They are supposed to be criminals and criminals are evilhot + I want Fuwawa to kick me in the balls at full force and then giggle about it
>>109777998such is life I suppose, I can only pray she finds a good middle ground
>>109778008They're supposed to be an evil organization akin to Holox, so they always get depicted in villain style like art. But yeah none of them behave like that.
>>109778045She used to have a manger who was /here/ and I think they got replaced a long time ago so there's no way to let her know what she should prioritize
>>109778047>none of them
>>109778042What about Biboo, isint she the hottest imagining her tiny self domming you. I just want a small Asian girl to ride the fuck out of me
>>109777966GG and FWMC leading the way, sasuga
>>109778093>mall Asian girl to ride
>>109777977Advent Relax Time figures with those outfits would be great
>>109777971>>109777998Bae isn't all that smart in general, she wasted her Million Yen jackpot on making a song that wasn't even animated or nothing special. She could have used that money to do something way more impactful and meaningful for herself, but oh well.
>>109777977the blacked gen
>>109778063yeah it's just a support and hope angle, this particular febaery has been great I just hope she keeps it up in some way, at least in terms of organising collabs, that's been good for the whole branch
>>109778100Kronii falling behind as always, do Kronies just not buy merch?
>>109778134How much do you think 1 million yen actually is? holos get that much in 6-7 streams+ That cover is performing really wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQuGEpICY2o
>>109778156>1 million yen actually is? holos get that much in 6-7 streamsproof?
>>109778134>Million Yen jackpotits for the making of the music nothing more
>>109777998She said she's been recording dance shorts. I guess she'll start releasing them with her new 3D outfit.
>>1097781661 million yen is approx 6k USD. It's jack shit. Holos sell 20x that amount in a merch run
>>109778125Has this dude drawn her getting fucked yet
>>109778134aww it was so sweet of her to do that though, maybe it wasn't the smartest but it was heartfelt you can't fault her for it
>>109778153They spend money on her patreon instead
>>109778194again, proof?
>>109777562No, all containment breaking niggers are bad and should kill themselvesHelmir isn't /here/ so he's not breaking containment and posting shit from /here/ on twitter
what is nimi upto rn?
>>109778008
>>109778178She doesn’t release them nearly as often as she should, the only reason Hajime and Suu got so big is because they regularly upload dance shorts and play the algorithm that way. Bae’s just a lazy bitch, can’t even use the excuse of not being in JP because she fucking lives there
>>109778206bae donated the money
>>109778206
/grun/ DONT LOOK
My Harem
>>109778227She's definitely not lazy. She gave herself a physical disability from overdancing
>>109777966Numbers? In my numbers thread?Also from the recent observations of general trinket sales, I guess grems really love their small stuff to fill their shit with. Which implies it's the menhera women fanbase buying all this shit up to decorate their room. Weird since while Gigi shills her own stuff but rarely does for general stuff AND rarely does she reinforces/comment on general merch/shrine displays to really push the fanbase to be trinket collectors
>>109778231ISREALbut he was asking for proof of the amount they make in a merch run
>>109778166For a normal streamer a good rule of thumb if I recall correctly is every 2k CCV translates to about 100k a year net. Vtubers obviously have much higher income than normal due to merch sales, even with cover’s cut I think 200k a year per 2000 CCV is fairly realistic. So a mid-high 4view is making around 500-1mil a year. The 5views are obviously way richer but they’re also all JP at this point and their currency is a bit devalued compared to USD.So yeah with that level of income 1 million yen is a drop in the bucket.
>>109778156she could have used that money fund an En sports festival for 2 years, things that would have lasting memories with the fanbase. Nobody even remembers what song Bae and the rest of HoloEn did for that 1m yen.
>>109778267Oh, in that case I'll just quote anon's post here >>109778035 for >>109778206
>>109778244love the thumbnail
>>109778286STILL no proof other than /#/ schizo babble
It's funny that the Kuzuhatranny who shits on Holos here all the time is also a Bae fan. Why? Because she's a homocollaber?
>>109778288>she could have used that money fund an En sports festival for 2 yearsI'm starting to believe this anon is confusing the million yen for a million USD
>>109778258Well she must be twerking for Roberu in private because we are definitely not seeing the results of that "overdancing" compared to the other big dancers in JP
>>109778251Nothing would make me happier if I could have a harem of these girls. I don’t ask for much, this would set me for life
>>109778319My bad. I didn't realize I was engaging with a schizo of bad faith
>>109778288The mind craft song?
>>109778258And what disability is that
>>109778302Raden is a billionaire from museums
>>109778258yes she's not lazy, but she injured herself trying to do the splits IIRC not particularly from overwork
>>109778366She semi-destroyed her hamstrings permanently and they will never return to their original flexibility. Also her calves are always inflamed and on the verge of exploding
>>109778346Why would you want a harem of neet girls who barely get along as is, can’t cook, can’t clean, can barely take care of an animal. You’d bascially be the one doing everything
>>109778251BabydollRyS gods
>>109778379>splitsyes but the reason for why her injury became damn near permanent is because she didn't go to the doctor and pushed her body beyond it's limits
>>109778400go away timestampfag
>>109778385Seems like cope for why she’s so lazy
>>109776569>>109776589>>109776678>>109776847>>109776856>>109776964>mindbrokennice
>>109778286Lol, no Nigga some one who averages 2k ccv on a live stream is not making $100k per year. All that money depends on your vod views not your ccv. 100k views on a 20+ min video/stream is roughly between $200-$3000 depending on the actual video length.
>>109778424>>109778350
>>109778424I destroyed her anus
>>109778299>Ina >CChirys will be overjoyed
>>109778406yeah she's pretty fucking lucky that it's actually getting better now, just specifying that the reason she's been in physical therapy is from that injury not general overwork
>>109777069>>109777352>>109777456>>109777480>>109777670>>109777699>mindbrokennice
>>109778433>mindbroken by the homosnice
>>109778442More like you’re a schizo for having to come up with this retarded cope for why she never does shit. Pathetic brat cuck, look forward to her getting dicked down by the 2 homos for her event I guess
>>109778244big crumbs
>>109777816>>109777845>>109778153>>109778201>>109778227>>109778319>mindbrokennice>>109777583>>109777658>>109777764>>109777798retarded homobeggar
>>109778480I need this bitch to use her tight cunny to squeeze every last drop of cum out of my balls and into her womb
>>109778433>>109778476>>109778503>mindbrokennice
>>109778503>mindbrokennice
>>109778483>brokenmind
>autofister fag coming in to spam post on cue because he got btfo’d
>>109778548>Yet Another CCGG CollabI think I won pretty big.
>>109778483You know there is a website where you can post your fantasies
>>109778543Better than still supporting a whore
>>109778063Proof that /here/ anons can't manage for shit
>>109778207>No, all containment breaking niggers are bad and should kill themselvesCorrect
>>109778568Another win for the troons, because that’s all who cares about the 2 dykes
So we know Bae is stupidBut we also know she is cute
>>109778207>Helmir isn't /here/
do you think fongban might transition into a ratcatcher/ccRyS shipper after that collab?
>>109778593>CorrectYes, true
EN for this feel?
>>109778578anyone coming here for advice or feedback is an idiot
>>109778605yes
pls stream kaniki have a mental break down
>>109778613>ratcatcherLike the girl from suicide squad?
>>109778613As long as she stops treating Ceci like Mumei, it works
Mewgenics again
>>109778605This is exactly my relationship with bae, I love her because she’s cute as fuck but I hate her because she’s so retarded in important areas as exemplified by her collab choices. She’s like a teenager daughter where I will always love her, but she constantly whores herself out and it makes me wanna disown her.
>>109778613No way in hell lol. This stream was just a fling for fongban. Her main ship remains intact
>>109778647>Bigham>ham
>>109778647its FOTM and their god NL played it
Pippa fucks niggers under the golden bridge
Strongest unit rn
>>109778483>>109778572>>109778598>mindbrokennice
>honey I'm sorry for ignoring your chat but you know how it is with my anxiety
>>109778682Bae was replaced with Shiori in casual outfit
>>109778681Proof?
>>109777132Anyone else think this fag is one of the most annoying in the community. His only recognition is “animating” other people’s artwork, other than that he just engagement baits by posting Holo unity shit with the homos and how evil the unicorns are while vaguely posting political shit as well about le Trump despite being a SEA fag
>>109778713>casual outfitFUCKKKKKKK
>>109778647
>>109778712you're fucking 40 years old. get over it already
>>109778719
>>109778725He's an obnoxious attention whore but so are all of the other SEA fans
Jelly fycks her SEA boyfriends in Japan
>>109778756What about me?
Cute couple Shame that his mom is dead kek
Your sub 500 botted NijihomoPhase trash doesn't matter
>>109778792It's not a shame at all actually
>>109778810
>>109778833How did Ame help kill the homos?
>>109778385FUCKING DISHONEST LIGGERNIGGERSHE SAID SHE FUCKED UP HER HAND WITH NORMALFAG WORK BECAUSE YOU FUCKS CANT SUPPORT HERKYS
Poor Phasecucks...
>>109778856IRyS and Kiara didn't need forgiveness
>>109778865Nigga that was CeciNot Bae
>>109778904FUCKI MISREAD
>>109777809That's a nice ass.
>>109778792>>109778835>celebrating someone's mom diedcringe
Nimi WonPhase Brown Cucknet Lost
>>109778638I mean, >Disband homoIs a pretty solid advice
>>109778889IRyS interacted with the JP homos before tempiss existed, Kiara thanked them for wishing her well when she almost burned down her house
>>109778932>>109778934Browns are not human
>>109778951those aren't homocollabs, mentions or polite replies don't need forgiveness.
>>109778936>7 countries vs 2 countries kek
>>109778936>one token USA stop>4 (four) Asian stopslol
>>109778950>>Disband homo>Is a pretty solid advicei hope riku for good for niji women livers
>>109778978Funny how some of the girls never gave them any "polite replies"
>>109778987too slow nijinig. It's 7 countries vs 2.
>>109778856Ame fucking destroyed the homos by jumping on them the way she did. Teamates were ready to accept the occasional appearance in group collabs someone else organized but>fly me to the moon duet>Ame organizing collabs which include homos>IMPROVE YOURSELFShe and Kronii made it clear that>no one is safe from holostars>if your oshi ever acknowledges them it's full homo forever>holostars will be replacing the content you used to enjoyAnd it made them the enemy of hololive fans.Mori's >popular demandcomment didn't help. Debuting a second gen of holostars to really drive the point home that hololive was being replaced didn't help. Altare didn't help. But it was really Ame's fault. I'm pretty sure she knew it too.
>>109778993for the love of god riku disband the gang
>>109779012>Ame destroyed the homos by collabing with them a lot while shitting on her fansBaaaaaased teamates won!!!
Reminder that Homo collabers don't respect their fans and force them to watch shit
>>109778856>>109779012
>>109779012schizo retard blowing things out of proportion. The homos killed themselves>Vesper suspension in the middle of a management organized series of collabs about Pokemon>Vesper menhera arc in Japan>Debuting more homos just 6 months after the first gen>Vesper antagonizing holofans>Magni and his arrogant personality>Altare losing his shit because his retarded podcast got delayed time and time again>Vesper and Magni fucking off>Half of the homos having no remarkable traits>Third gen full of SEAfags and LGBTurds>Jutard antagonizing holofans
All Covid Vaxxed Tards from L eddit will die from cancer kek
>>109779084Reminds me of when chat told Kiara Octavio was playing some jrpg and she didn't know who that was
Hubby is live
>>109777348>This is NOT true lol. She got some of the highest numbers playing Agreeee in the branchThat's because she got hat botted for ~5k.Don't get me wrong 10k is still great, and I agree that she does better then anons give her credit for. Also agree with you the momentum thing
>>109778969...someone needs to lay off the ragesauce for a day.
Homos are dying from cancer and AIDS in their basement kekGod hates them
When is the announcement for the 2026 world tour ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlVNhNjJy9k
>CC calling Kiara her "brethren"chat is this allowed
Homochads won
>>109777777
>>109779239They're looking for venues in Cambodia and Laos
These are the boys that Pomu and Shiori fell in love withhttps://x.com/roiasasasa/status/2026637267784331513https://x.com/Pudd1ngJ3lly/status/2026631111313600766
>>109779231god is Holochad
https://x.com/N2111021/status/2026586508908769692Looks like Dinopag is facing some backlash in the Nijinigger event
>>109779176sure but you forgot to check her first agreee stream
>>109779133>half of that list consists of Vesperwhy did Fauna fall for this guy again?
>>109779133Jurard debuted years after they died. It was a pathetic attempt to capture the only audience that reliably shows up for holostars: Filipino dramafags. Vesper's numbers were in the shitter before the suspension because the "cool older guy with life experience" turned out to be the kind of guy who tries to make your girlfriend laugh and no one, NO ONE, likes that. The Tempoop debuts and subreddit lock were the nail in the coffin but Timeduo mortally wounded them by setting them up as antagonists.
>>109779316>jews, atheists, muslims are all anti-christ and want to destroy it>nijiggers, phasekes, vshojo(lmao) /indies are all anti holos and want to destroy ithuh
>>109779298Mint is for Kanauru and Shiori for Flayon though
>>109779362discord dad indeed
>>109779362All of those words just to timeloop about them homocollabing, retard
>>109779339The whole annoying loud shtick doesn't fly with Fujos because they treat their boys like bumbling baby retards who can't be touchedIf he pushes a little more, Nijibabas will kill him.
>>109779346Oh you're right, my bad. I only checked one month back for a previous stream
>>109779362>turned out to be the kind of guy who tries to make your girlfriend laughWell it clearly worked out for him
>>109779012so Ame didn't do shit, teamates did
>>109779339fujos want soft spoken fags not loud flip monkeys
>>109779012What an emotionally charged response, even if I low key agree she helped kill them. Replacing content would mean she is no longer interested in hosting CGDCT content, which isn't true. She overcompensated that type of content to off set the homo collabs (and it is frankly embarrassing that she helped produce more of that than the "heroes" of this thread did.") Her and Kronii joining unfortunately WAS necessary to assess the actual threat though because it gave a clear picture of executive overreach (ndvermind "popular demad" to shorten the collab window) in wanting to hamfist a direction that caused a total collapse of activity. This is as much as I will give you though because everything us blowing shit out of proportion. The homo side primarily had themselves to blame for them sinking.
>>109779266why not
this is the guy fucking Nimi btw
>>109778810>antagonizes Kronies for years>their oshi is cucking them for Vesper forme de ugly bastardim kekking
I've been enjoying my day off work
I would oof at Bae's announcement but it's Bae and she has already collabed with dudes like two three dozen times, who cares. It's like Shiori or ERB.
>>109779579>fucking Nimimaking love with Nimi*
>>109779395It wasn't JUST homocollabing, it was the perception that they were picking holostars over their fans with the "IMPROVE YOURSELF" and "DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE FEMALE FRIENDS" lines and picking holostars over their friends by organizing collabs for the "whole EN branch" that excluded CGDCT members. It painted them as the kind of disruptive interloper that everyone had just seen the girls at NijiEN destroyed by.You're right that the holostars share the blame. Vesper, especially, is old enough that he should have understood the situation. A brotuber relies on being a "bro" and they failed to be bros about it.>>109779424You're gonna have to explain your rationale
>>109779672Kronii does have herself to blame for that, many people warned her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRci5LLGOzY
>>109779012>if your oshi ever acknowledges them it's full homo foreverClearly not true. Ame did just ONE single homo collab after vesper's suspension, which was jumping into the monopoly collab to take the place of kronii who was knocked out by that jaw surgery thing
>>109779724
>>109779748
>>109779714>You're gonna have to explain your rationaleYou already explained it, Ame homocollabed, pushed homo streams, did nothing to prevent it, Teamates didn't like it.
>>109779724shiori is very smart
>>109779714>You're gonna have to explain your rationaleNTA, but I think the whole beating each other to death relationship that Ame had with her audience althroughout 2022 and 2023 allowed personal and upper management to realize that something was going wrong with how HoloEN was being managed as a branch.If everytime you announce something you're met with>HEY WHAT THE FUCK>ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, AGAIN?>COME ON AME YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS>GOD WHY ARE YOU DOING THISThen those are red flags that end up reaching management. That's why HLZNTL was so damaging for pro-homo management, it was an absolute PR disaster.
Popular guy covers Bijouhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wtECL-VXrk
>>109777513Both Arknights games are better in English than Japanese (though the JP dib is infinitely better than the KR and Chinese ones).Avywenna's Japanese VA is good though.
>>109779579So since this is a massive revelation, hes now a mid 4view at least right? Surely the daily spamming in this thread is worth something?
>>109778951>Kiara thanked them for wishing her well when she almost burned down her houseNigga are you retarded? why wouldn't she thank people for wishing her well especially in a significant life event like that
>suddenly no longer sick when surrounded by hairy Asian pussyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJb0sFCxlHM
>>109779873yeah I bet Selenfag is going to listen to reason this time, let's argue with him
>>109779873Actually he went DOWN, from an average of 310 in January to 143 (!) in February.
>>109779908She made a tweet 3 days ago saying she was already feeling better. Sorry to interrupt your "meme" attempt
>>109779700nah he's fucking her. she thinks he's making love though.
I don't know if the girls "intentionally forcing cuckshit out of spite" really contributed much to the collapse of homos. It certainly turned everyone here anti-homo even those that initially gave them a chance, but at the end of the day we aren't that many people. Our greatest achievement is arguably that we managed to turn the hololive subreddit anti-homo, and theoretically the lack of shill topics there contributed to their decline. But I don't think it was a major mover in the total homo death.The major causes for their collapse were primarily:>1. the girls internally rioting over the PSYCHOTIC levels of forced homoshilling (paid out of their pocket), and getting Omegatroon fired>2. Dumb & Dumber getting fired, removing the only two homos that anyone actually watched and also destroying the "box unity" of Tempus on their way out>3. The then-homocollabers essentially blacklisting the stars branch for whatever crimes they did behind the scenes - causing zero homocollabs for YEARS until ERB and late-Shiori, essentially letting the branch just rot past the point of no returnAll three of these things happened independently of "our backlash" so my argument is that it would have happened anyway, and it would have killed the homos even in a timeline where the spite-cucking never happened.
>>109779957You forgot 1. the majority of holo fans simply do not want to watch men. If they did, they would have watched nijisanji.
What's the difference between Saplings and Otomos?
>>109779986if I wanted to watch male streamer I would watch the quebec meth head or veibaes husband
>>109780001>OtomosLiggers who hate their oshi and try to control her>SaplingsCuckolds who anti everyone else to make their oshi look good and would defend her even if she did an orc-plapping ASMR
>>109779957I didn't do shit to the Reddit, that was entirely on overexuberant homobeggars and it was exactly the same problem>homos debut, some people give them a shot>start mixing the hololive and holostars content>beggars go ALL HOMO ALL THE TIME>holofans realize their content is threatened>holostars become persona non grata
>>109780001Otomos can explode
>>109780010
>>109780079closing the sub for ames birthday killed any good will beggars had there
>>109780046I'm an otomo who hates liggers, I also love hololive and am glad she's really enjoying her time in it
>>109779957>cuckshit out of spiteThe cuckshit is irrelevant, showing spite is what will kills any entertainer, not just streamers (female or not). Even the most neutral person won't stay to watch something that was made just to spite someone else.
>>109780079You can't pretend the generic faggot clipnigger that browses the subreddit would have ever dared to raise a voice against DABOIZ if our containment breakers didn't pave the way with the initial upvote surges that let them feel "safe" in also upvoting and downvoting beggarcucks.
>>109780046There are plenty of Otomos who hate liggers
>>109780142No, seriously, most of the pushback was from longtime redditors and it came because of how badly the holostars fans were behaving.
>>109778936Shanghai and Seoul were both con concerts that don't need a separate ticket.
>>109780001Saplings got cucked by vesper. Otomos got thrown away for gigi. Choose which one you like better.
By the way I find it kind of interesting that no beggar has ever "dared" to address the elephant in the room about Kronii and Mori ceasing all homo(EN)collabing. Even when they bring up how Shiori and ERB are the only ones doing this, they neither pretend those two still do, nor do they say they used to and stopped.
>>109780142No you retarded shit for brains
>nimi pov
>>109779901Because they're homos. FWMC would have ignored them.
>>109779339geg
>>109780263It's like those tweets where they admit they didn't know dumb and dumber graduated. They just simply forgot.
It must be miserable to be an Otomo. Knowing your oshi is only solo streaming to shut you up, not because she wants to spend time with you.
>>109780386Don't worry she does neither.
>>109776459suisei was literally taking other people out for dinner and paying with her "bibbidiba money"
>>109780327Look at that hecking wholesome chungus normie sweater he's wearing he's JUST like a Simpsons character, what a brotuber, god I love normies.
>>109780386Theres not many /here/ or towa Justice fans in the first place. Normies dont care about that sort of thing I would imagine.
>>109779807>That's why HLZNTL was so damaging for pro-homo management, it was an absolute PR disaster.Qrd for newfag
>>109778299>5 am for mewelp
>>109780263A lot of them seem to think Kronii is still some sort of homo ally
Name one EN who feels like they actually like spending time with their fans. Where they can have just as much fun interacting with chat as they could with a collab partner.
>>109779957>happened independently of "our backlash" true but only if you consider the backlash angry comments only, over 90% of it is people just getting put off and stop watching and spending, this was the thing that turned them from >it's just angry unicorns complainingto>oops, I guess our fans actually hate it
>>109780446They get all their holopro content from clips and twitter.
>>109780468Mori deadbeats have it pretty damn good.
>>109780386Nappo I don't think you wanna take this fight, your green woman dropped laundry all over you
>>109780446because all they watch are clips those idiots probably still think she collabs with them
>>109780468Biboo, gigi, Raora (when she can stream), CC (before japan arc 1). Also CC claimed that she likes spending time with her fans last solo stream. Key word: claimed.
Who luvs streamin' most?
>>109780507I'm not a Napling and I know Nimi hates her fans. She's the most self-serving EN in HoloEN history.
>>109780523Saba24 hours stream soon?
>>109780433Okay, so.>On the days before, there had been some Overwatch tournaments with ONLY girls, with some positive reception, not exactly super buff but the people had fun.>On August 23rd 2023, a new project called HZNTL gets released, or Holizontal if you're a pretentious dipshit>Turns out it's a tournament between Homos and girls, and not just your average homocollabers, but IRyS, Chloe, Lui (at the time), all at the time>Fucking seventh trumpet, the announcement on Twitter gets lambasted by both EN and JP fans to the point where a post about HZNTL is still the Reddit's most downvoted post of all time.>On the days after, different girls put up their statements about it, Chloe and IRyS being the most notable examples because they explictly stated that they won't talk with the Homos, this is just a management's gig, nothing will change, etc etc.And combine this with how weird ReGloss debut was and the poor reaction to Hololive's 6th anniversary, and pro-Homo management were shown the door by January 2024.
>>109780468Kiara
>>109780468It doesn't matter how they actually feel, they're supposed to appear like they love their fans more than anyone else, which CC can't do
>>109780523Why do you need to ask? Missed the hours streamed that was posted a while back?
Holo keeps catching L's every day
>>109779957>the girls internally rioting over the PSYCHOTIC levels of forced homoshillingKeep in mind that according to this thread Fauna was doing this, while in reality she was dating one of the homos
>>109780574nijicope
>>109780510There are quite a few of them that seem to think that were in some sort of holopro unity golden age. It's quite bizarre.
>>109780468Kiara, IRyS, FWMC, Kronii, Mori, the ones who do member streams more than once a month or at a high % of the normal streams.maybe Raora and Biboo too?
>>109780523definitely not kronii
>>109780592Y'know, I find it cute that FWMC still pushed to do a Valentine's special with the Ruffians a solid two weeks after Valentines, just because they weren't able to do it on the original date.They're old, and tired, and exhausted, but I have never doubted their love for their audience.
>>109780511>CC claimed that she likes spending time with her fans last solo streamAny vtuber who has to say it explicitly, doesn't. >>109780545She talks AT KFPs and enjoys it because she's talking about herself. Kiara streams feel like she's talking to a mirror.The only ENs I can think of would get uncomfortable not being around their fans for a while are Mori, Biboo, Kiara (for the reason above), Bae, FWMC (only applies to JP fans) and possibly GG, although she'd still pick a collab over her fans anyday but she'd feel bad if she avoided them for a while. It's pretty grim.
>>109780638https://youtu.be/q8Wnq1PLPng?t=8260
>>109780638Always the weirdest shitpost, literally 90% of all FWMC content is English
>>109780663lmao
I really hate how EN blew their "watch my own debut stream" load so fucking early just because Pekora had a megabuff stream for it.
>>109779962I liked the collab cover with her and Rissa
>>109780433Mixed branch vs branch tournamentSo before the presence of homos comes into play, the choice either comes they (the men) have to play with kiddie gloves which is insulting, or they completely curbstomp them, which is equally as insultingOn top of there being fuckall desire for e-sport slop in the generic holo fanbase (of course, some girls good at games like Botan or Korone and such there's the exception), so there was no real desire to have this slop system with HLZNTL in the first placeI mean what the fuck was it FOR, to match the wet fort that was VSPO?
>>109780676who cares
>>109780592>maybe Raora and Biboo
>>109780663Majority of their worst content is EN-targeted. The JPs often get the good stuff.
>>109780671Go and sum up the past year of their streams and divide it into EN and JP streamsOh right you don't want to btfo yourself
>>109780221I still think it's funny homofags tried to demonize holo fans who were never anti homos in the first place.
>>109780468Mori, Biboo, Shiori unironically, Kiara, RaoraAll of them do good work with engagement with the fanbase/viewersShiori especially has been playing with fans a lot recently, and now Biboo started to too (fortnight with pebbles was fun)
>>109780725EN fanbase gets literal food scraps compared to JP bros
>>109780728They turned Helmir into a sort of Homo boogeyman despite himself being an unityfag back in 2022
https://files.catbox.moe/2lyrb1.mp4
>>109780753Are you a ruffian? I dont know why you care if not.
>>109780753Yeah dude kanji de go or throwaway vertical suika game or some chillasloptruly the pinnacle of kino
>>109780783meanwhile EN.......................
>>109780701>>109780753Horror games and Chillaslop are the same under any language, and I don't understand why you keep pushing such a bullshit angle when we have seen what TRUE blatant JP-pandering looks like
>>109780523Koyo
>>109780683It's genuinely insane how clueless about numbers Fagoo is, it's like he literally just pulls an idea out his ass, just DECIDES "this is what will be successful" based on nothing but vibes, and then invests insane amounts of money in it.Same thing with whatever the fuck Blue Journey was supposed to be, I still remember when some investor absolutely lost his shit about that project and basically flung insults at whoever had the idea.
>>109780810>0.89 chats per secondyeesh
>>109780810She clearly has no fans either way lol, EN or JP.
>>109780728The thing is it has always worked before. >there's a polarizing issue and gosh people are being so mean>we don't support toxic behavior here right?>so we need to ban any wrongthinkers>OUR community is now dedicated to being fans of the other side of the polarizing issuehololive fans are the first I've ever seen resist the tactic, possibly because the demographic is generally too autistic to fear social disapproval.
>>109780433>Qrd for newfagAlong with what >>109780538 described, the company was clearly under the influence of someone going full blown "nijification", as in>removing the barrier between holos and homos and the rest of the vtuber worldThe very tagline for the project indicated that>A community without boundariesIt was announced July 26, 2023. Before that it was a litany of unforced errors>featuring the homos in the Holo side of the new years programming>this feature art plus the mixed puzzle>debutting Tempoop instead of EN3>Making "Hololive anniversary" (the day of Sora's debut) into "Hololive Productions anniversary" (a production company whose creation was in December, not on Sora's debut anniversary) and featuring Tempoop prominently while neglecting the newly debut EN girlsEverything they did was signalling "we want to 'expand our audience'" meaning "we want to ditch the current audience for a potential bigger one"But the audience was not retarded and saw it coming from a mile away and collectively decided to >NOT GIVE EVEN A SINGLE INCH OF SUPPORT TO ANYTHING INVOLVING THE HOMOSincluding indirectly, which ended up causing both Roboco and Choco to go 3 views (for the most part of the stream) in the HLZNT training matches, which was one of the strongest signals that if they want a new audience they would have to forego ENTIRELY the new audience.To drive the point home even further, DEV_IS debuts almost bombed and they had to make seventeen "ReGLOSS IS HOLOLIVE TOO! PLEASE SUPPORT THEM!" with the whole First Army, second Army, Sora and whatnot to rescue them from almost failing to beat 100k subs near debut.All in all July-2022 to Dumb and Dumber termination + Advent debut was considered the "GRIM era" for a reason, but they bounced back and that's what counts
Find yourself an oshi who tells staff to fuck off if they offended her fans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyLSzrQ5voM
>>109781019lel, she scolding manager-san for calling Soratomo "Soratomo-gang" (better translation despite not being literal) I'll break ranks and side with manager-san here: if Sora didn't want them to be called that she should stop organising mosh-pits in her concert
>>109780846
>>109780846He doesn't actually make decisions about shit like HLZNTL, he just gets shown a bunch of paperwork and proposals, so he gets shown some shit about esports and just "ah naruhodo ne, people like video games and competitive things like apex" and just goes about his dayHell, there wasn't even any fucking money put into HLZNTL outside of maybe some jackets hoping he'd get a raise or promotion if his dipshit idea went well, just a bunch of wasted shilling and timeAnd as for BlowJob, that project was, in theory, fine but in the end it kinda fell flat because people didn't really see the point in it, although nowadays ensemble albums may do a bit better
>>109780770People like this?
>>109781137>Hell, there wasn't even any fucking money put into HLZNTLThere was, by the sponsors. The reason it died is because they signed for Aqua and ended up getting Izuru (or whatever)
>>109781010The comment section for the 6th anniversary video was fucking wild. They hated the home's inclusion and were pissed about Advent not getting highlighted.
>>109781096Basically every Tom, Dick, and Jane who wants to somehow get quick promotions tries to make the homos profitable by figuring out some kind of magic sauce for themExcept it's always "let's piggyback off of xyz" and they get nothing out of it and end up slipping again
>>109781137I don't think it was fine in theory because it was literally "let's make holo music except we remove the vtubers and pretend it's just generic music for normies" which is so unfathomably retarded you don't need to look at a single number metric to understand why.Which is actually what the guy called out as well.>ブルージャーニーはホロライブのオリジナル曲をMVつきで動画を出して曲を同時にリリース販売 しています。 最近始まって現在3曲出ていますBlue Journey is a Hololive project with original song and MV that was released and sold at the same time. Right now there are 3 songs>ただ、動画の中に歌ってるホロライブのメンバーホロメンは出てきません。But, in the MV itself there aren't any Hololive members>映像も曲の歌詞もホロライブと無関係のものです 一発でホロリスのために作られたものではないとわかりますThe scenes and lyrics has literally no connection to Hololive. You know it's not made for Hololive viewers just by a glance>なんでこうなったのか考えてみました 大きい企画案の決定権を持っている人物が、 仕事の効率化は得意だけど物事の良し悪しを正しく判断する能力が皆無I have an idea why this project is even allowed, there's someone on the higher-up there with good achievements but has no brain to decide whether something is right or wrong>たぶん立場が低かったとき振られた仕事を効率よくこなしていたんだと思います で頑張りが認められて昇進してしまったThey probably just got lucky to be promoted after they kept on doing menial tasks in the company and finally given a chance>ホロライブと関係ない動画と曲を作り置きしておいて企画を固めて 誰でもいいからオリジナル曲と大人数のライブ参加券でホロメンを釣って参加させてThey made songs and MV which have no connection to Hololive at all and presented it, then they baited the members to participate with orison and the chance to appear in a live concert>歌わせて動画に音源はりつけてThen they made the members sing along to the MV>ホロメンの意見で聞くのは参加不参加とライブでのTシャツの白黒とソロ枠で何歌うかぐらいだと思います 基本ホロメンの意見は聞かないでしょうThey probably didn't bother to listen to the members' opinion aside from whether they wanted to participate or trivial stuff like what song to sing for their solo part or the color of their T-shirt>後から変更なんて時間効率の悪いことしないでしょうからねこの人They definitely wouldn't bother changing the presented script anymore because the work efficiency will drop>ホロライブと無関係の映像を流すことを新しい挑戦とか参加メンバーを最大限活かした 多彩なコラボレーションでとか動画の説明文に書いてるんで救いようがないですEven went as far to refer it as 'a new challenge', 'utilized the best of our talents', 'a colorful collaboration' on the description of the MVs, what a load of bullshit>ただ、ライブではホロメンたちが理想の姿で登場するんで大成功は約束されてますBut I believe that the Hololive members will be able to perform to their best and be able to turn it into a great success>業績の心配はしておりませんI have no concern regarding that>ここで質問ですHere's my question>カバー株式会社の中で大きい企画案の決定権を持っている人物が仕事の効率化は得意だけど 物事の良し悪しを正しく判断できず、ホロリスとホロメンのことをないがしろにしている場合 決定権を持たない立場に移動させますか? それとも何もしませんか? お答えくださいWhat will you do with that brainless higher-up guy in case the project crashed? Will you demote them? Answer this.
>>109780981It failed because the beggars are unironically a hundred times more toxic than >our side wasIt's the whole point of the silent war, making them look like the aggressor assholes
>>109781137>that project was, in theory, fine but in the end it kinda fell flat because people didn't really see the point in it, although nowadays ensemble albums may do a bit betterThe problem was NOT that it was an "ensemble album", it was because, like with ReGloss, they tried to entirely hide the "blue Dorito" to a point the girls weren't even featured in any of the art of any of the songs.They were angling for "these girls sing well, let's present them to the general public without showing they are anime girls" like Nornis on Nijisanji before them, and failed miserably (like Nornis on Nijisanji before them) and for the same reason>Hololive greatest strength is the shared audience and the interpersonal relationship between the girlsand BJ did away with BOTH
>>109781010I will never look at Yagoo or Cover the same way knowing they tried to ditch their fans for normalfags and failed. They've been slavishly copying Nijisanji for years so they knew what their plan would do to the female streamers that built and solely funded their shithole company and they went all in anyway because Yagoo is hungry for penis.
>>109781198Sponsors pour money INHolo didn't pour money OUT on it, is the point
>>109781246>I will never look at Yagoo or Cover the same wa-We know, rimjob schizo, you're at it for the past 5 years or so
>>109781268I'm not a named schizo but I have been seething about this for years it's true
https://x.com/hytebrand/status/2026733944797090255I have no fucking clue what an astral orange is but go vote holo I guess
>>109781175JP > CH > KR > EN
>>109781235Their mistake was thinking they can be generic and break through on pure merit when it's just not how the industry worksYou're recognizable, so BE recognizableDon't shy away from the identity, force others to acknowledge itBJ as a project was fine, but the driving ideology behind it was flawed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJb0sFCxlHM>all the /vt/ approved ENs
>>109781317>ch>better than anythingIf I wanted to be chided or derided by some chink I'd just buy some five dollar joi pack on fansly or some shitAnd if I wanted to watch some flesh whore stream I'd just do that too instead of watching a """v"""tuber do it
>>109781295My whole point is that "I will never look at Yagoo or Cover the same way" is a retarded statement because you are actually looking at Yagoo and Cover the exact same way you did I assume from the start.Hopefully you are not the retard that went "Gura should graduate and become an indie, she will be 100% more motivated and successful without manager killing her every project"
>>109781323>the driving ideology behind it"Cover can recreate hololive's success any time, we really are adding value to the brand here at the head office I swear"
Regloss is still a fucking failure
>>109781010imagine the tournaments girls-only with holos today... graduate all fucking homos
>>109781347>gigi>"/vt/" approved
>>109781350Take the China pill. They're fun and cute. https://files.catbox.moe/ksfzpr.mp4
>>109781381brat...
>>109781347Takos are all in global she streamed four hours yesterday and you wouldn't know here
>>109781323>Their mistake was thinking they can be generic and break through on pure merit when it's just not how the industry worksTrue, but to be charitable here at length and avoid misconceptions, the mistake was not that >Holo girls don't have enough merit but>Hololive trouncing Nijisanji in every respect means nothing when the competition is Sony, Warner Bros, Universal and this type of behemoth with a worldwide operation and billions of dollars to spend on "generic ghetto gangbang rapper #17" / "generic five Korean plastic chicks" projects to make it hit #1 for a season before rinsing and repeating
>>109780468Unironically the ones that get the most hate here.
>>109781360More like "we can wrap the anime pill in the wrapped cheese of 'professional' appearance and feed it to normalfags!"Which doesn't really work because it's essentially starting from zero because nobody will know it or recognize itBrands are brands for a reason, which the project lead didn't quite get
>>109781401There is literally nobody left in global
>>109781367>imagine the tournaments girls-only with holos today.It would suck and for the same reason: most Holo girls loath FPS and try-hard tournaments and their audience likewise.It was a running meme with Pekora and her audience when she played her one bi-annual APEX stream and they would SEETHE hard about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa9QaSP1jvg
>>109781432why does it have to be fps? stuff like marika tournaments are big and holos eems to like them
>>109781411>Shiorishe likes her new cuck fanbase, hated the pre-brick fans>Nimishe likes her new cuck fanbase, hated the pre-LLD fans???
>>109781401I did the old dorya when she hit 10k, but the nimischizo was going wild, so I saw no point in posting anything beyond that.
>>109781457>why does it have to be fps?Because the companies footing the bill for HLZNTL were not paying them to have fun play with their girl mates, they were paying them to showcase their new games (Overwatch, whatever else from Blizzard) in front of their 40k+ audience
>>109781457the pokemon unite tournament was pretty gun
>>109781457Marika and silly things like smash have degrees of randomness and are widely seen as "for fun"Fps and fgc sweatfests aren't afforded the same leniency, and the fans kf those things WILL insult you if you don't take it seriously
>>109781358No, when I first started watching hololive a couple months after Myth debut I fully believed the narrative that Yagoo was just a funny little guy who stumbled into success when Sora gave him the idea for hololive and that he wanted to use that success to offer overlooked talents a chance at stardom. I really liked Nene and Kiara and the idea of a second chance at being an idol.
Which of saba's orisong releases is your favorite?
>>109781010>including indirectly, which ended up causing both Roboco and Choco to go 3 views (for the most part of the stream) in the HLZNT training matchesOh I never thought the backlash was that serious
I still like Nene and Kiara btw
Glad someone in her own country was willing to cosplay
>>109781528It's exactly what he does and pushes forThe PROBLEM is that he also does it/allows it for the homos too, he won't scuttle their failure of a branch and the problematic existence of homoEN was entirely from a rogue agent in Omegay who went over EVERYONE'S head for shit and got rightfully shitcanned over itI'd rather have a bleeding heart than someone who would shutter a shitter branch/member
>>109781347>alllacks Biboo and Mococo
>>109781528>>109781570The fact you even personalised a "named mook" and assigned all blame to him instead of recognising that the company management structure was rotten to the core with competing views AND people trying to fundamentally change it from the inside, from the "middle management" level shows how little you really understood the problem back then and even now.Tanigo could quite literally put (you) in charge of the company back then and most if not all of the serious problems would be repeated UNLESS you abdicated from your high level responsibilities and assumed direct middle management control
>>109781622>UNLESS you abdicated from your high level responsibilities and assumed direct middle management controlWhich, ironically, he ended up having to do when he started attending to "Hololive English manager meetings", something unthinkable for the head of any company
>>109781624you can just say nimi lmao
>phase about to lose their only good singer in 2 daysoof
>>109781673Panko is also a very underrated singer. As good as Mumei.
Damn.....
>>109781690I assume the seventeen people that heard her singing will agree, or something
>>109781010>>109780538It's fascinating to read this and then look at ERB and Shiori for en, or Ririka/regloss + Lui for JP. I will never shake the feeling management didn't give up on the mixed stuff, they just got smarter.
>>109781673So after Clara nobody else is leaving? So much for Phase finally dying. Pests never leave
>>109781601Right, but that's what I can't forgive. He thinks the holostars are just as good as hololive members and deserve just as much support, from money hololive members earned and he didn't. He thinks the fans they've cultivated are expendable if they could possibly be replaced with new fans who are willing to watch the holostars, and who cares if those new fans watch hololive? At that point it's not being a bleeding heart, it's being entitled and disrespectful, and when you see the company investing in ways to earn revenue without direct support of the talents' fans it starts to look like what he really wants is to wring everything he can out of these bright young women so that he can reach the mainstream audience and finally get hooked into the global supply of trafficked boys.
>>109781721retard
>>109781741Why do you assume no one else will leave? Anyway, I think phase will go the way of vshojo, I just cant imagine they are making any kind of real money.
>>109781690KEKI know you want to shill your phasefag but she's painfully mid at least try comparing to someone in the same realm
>>109781708who is he begging for?
>>109781721There will always be girls that don't have any qualms about having male friends or interacting with men, that's just something that will always be a possibility And that's fine, I still won't watch homos and will watch girls-only content and vote appropriately with my wallet and timeWhat matters is the homos stop getting fucking freebies they aren't paying for out of the girls hard working pockets, THAT shit was the issue of the grim era, the fucking leeches
>>109781776I thought the drama and the company taking sides would the final straw for many of their /pol/ rotten members
>>109781721>they just got smarter.All of the examples you gave either precede the events of the post you are replying (in the JPs case) or are indistinguishable from Bae (in the ENs case) which also precedes those events.The events described there are all unprecedented both before and after SPECIALLY now that the company is clearly going into a >TOTAL HOMO APARTHEIDdirection, in preparation to>TOTAL HOMO ERASURE
>>109781791Mumei
>>109781793That ended up being the issue for me, and why I side eye anyone who said that Homos would've helped them out if their popularity was swapped.No the fuck it wouldn't
>>109781801Thats not enough for the whole thing to shut down, I just dont see them getting any new fans either though.
>>109781762No, he thinks that there's a responsibility to not can people over being shitters, aunts, and low-earning branchesThis is a GOOD thing, because it means members like rbc who are completely fucking shit tier in terms of ccv and earnings compared to first army don't have to worry about being let go for not measuring upHomos are now properly broomcloseted and their funding separated completely from the girls side like it should have been from the startIf they can't float on their own together, they're free to leave, the project is THEIR responsibility as members
>>109779579>he doesn't know why her "dancing lessons" are in the morning when he streamshttps://files.catbox.moe/33vbsk.mp4
>>109781721the new scheme is to slowly build up a "niji-lite" audience by hiring girls who will collab with them and say so from the outset. They tried a whole gen at once and that was rejected, so now it's just one or two a gen and CGDCT fans still get fed.
>>109781843>if their popularity was swapped.Might as well say "bizarro world" because, in this one, there is clearly no significantly large market for male vtubers.I agree with you on the take tho, look no further than Nijisanji, the only use they have for their girls is fluffers and extras to make for numbers in their big events
>>109781843If their popularity was swapped the homos absolutely would have been all over the girls anyway because they would be trying to fuck them
>>109781850>like it should have been from the startyes. It wasn't an accident, the mistake was thinking he could get away with it.
>>109781843Oh they might've Key word being MIGHT because we'll never know, and our only point of reference is niji but they specifically only hire rapists and other undesirablesWhether or not the homos could have been upstanding citizens with that money and power is something we can never know and have to lean towards "probably not" with the resources we have to work with
>>109781869Anon, they hired FEWER girls that will collab with them in comparison with 2021 and earlier (pre Holox) where all of ID plus half of the them existing JP would fit this description.
>>109781891Except it wasn't yagoo, it was omegay and en management before he got tossed out and replaced with jenma and co.Homojp was always stuck on their own with their yearly freebie that at least broke a little more than even
>>109776647BEEG CATMEANSBEEG PUSSY
>>109781869Ironically we've seen the opposite be the caseMore girls = less homos in every observable instance Debut another gen and watch the homos get maybe two collabs a year
>>109781791Kronii
>>109781883Thats how niji did it and did reimu die a second time? Haven't heard of her since the google dockey
>>109781937DEV_IS was hired to fluff the homosShiori was hired to fluff the homosERB was hired to fluff the homosHow many slots do hololive fans have to give up to fluff the homos? And how did Omega talk them into DEV_IS?
>>109781996Again, see >>109781907 and >>109781962, you are operating in a level of coep in face of TOTAL HOMO GENOCIDE that is unbecoming.
>>109781996devis is a different branch where they were pressured by the TV show managers to do what they think is best
>>109782051IT'S A DIFFERENT BRANCH BASED ON THE CONCEPT OF FLUFFING THE HOMOS
>>109781996I honestly think DEV_IS was an attempt to have homo collabers from the start that’s why they were interacting with them on twitter from debut Then they saw the numbers and had to start getting everyone to help them because things were looking extra grim
>>109781793>What matters is the homos stop getting fucking freebies they aren't paying for out of the girls hard working pocketsFor me it goes beyond just resources. They just can't create anything new and operate with the "Oh the girls have this meme and joke with their fanbase, lemme leech off it or create a version for the boys" mindset. It's like taking something special built with fanbases just to leech off it. I think this is why people had a problem with Holotori definition being expanded to retardation
Regloss was made to fluff the homos but not FlowGlowPlease be racist accurately
>>109781996Dev_is was made to be normalfag focused instead of hard anime with kemonomimiRaden is a music weirdo, Jimmy is a pretty good dancer, and we've even got it being used as a retirement home for ACTUAL idols now
Anon at >>109782060 and >>109781996 learn a new insult thrown at Nijisanji (at >>109781881) and then repeat it obsessively against HololiveIt REALLY made me think
>>109782085they learnt their lesson from regloss and cut that shit out
>>109781996>>109782067>>109782085retard
>>109782087MUSEUM weirdoI'm throwing my dogshit phone into a volcanoTo fuji-san i go
>>109782105newfag
abunai
>>109782084>They just can't create anything new and operate with the "Oh the girls have this meme and joke with their fanbase, lemme leech off it or create a version for the boys" mindset. It's like taking something special built with fanbases just to leech off it. I think this is why people had a problem with Holotori definition being expanded to retardationThat's something else that got axed with one of the most pressing examples being the axing of their "homogra"Astel touched on the general subject and so did the EN homos, on how they're now expected to stand on their own feet and bankroll their own stuff which led to hilarious incidents like>the game their managers build THEMSELVES because nobody is touching the homos on HoloIndie did worse on launch than fucking "sex with hitler"
>>109782123Grems can shape-shift too much, makes them too powerful
devis is their wish to have some "niji likes"just look at their designsall generic humans, not "weird fantasy creature"
>>109781897I argue we have enough. Like they MIGHT'VE, but that would only make them an exception in the grand scheme. Nijisanji might seem like they're exceptional in vtubing, but considering everything around us, they're nothing special, and Hololive is seen as an exception in that scope, which is why homobeggers treat it as an aberration
I have CC fatigue, I need alone time with Gigi..
>>109782165they have 2 onahole creatures
>>109782182You won’t get dessert if you don’t eat your greens
>>109782184give a very intense massage in her tail
>>109782146>the game their managers build THEMSELVES because nobody is touching the homos on HoloIndieJust you wait until Rider's game comes out
>>109782205I'm like that fat grem, I don't care about greens Just give me the full FAT meal
>>109782165>is their wish to have some "niji likes">all generic humans, not "weird fantasy creature"Yes anon, Nijisanji is widely known for their designs to be "generic humans", that might be where they got the idea for DEV_IS
>>109781713Panko is one of Phase's low 4view you fucking idiot
You only put up with Raora because her model makes blood rush to your penis.
>>109782236cherrypicking, 98% of all nijis are just "some human"
>>109782246Shes got 4 viewers? Thats crazy
>>109782224Didn't he get kicked from the project? Also, the other beggars all ate dirt, no?That one that made the Ame platform was seething recently, did he find himself a house or he's still a hobo?>>109782246>Panko is one of Phase's low 4view you fucking idiotWAO!
>>109782040Debuts since holoX (inclusive, skipping ID)>La+ - homocollabs>Lui - homocollabs>Chloe - cgdct>Koyori - cgdct>Iroha - cgdct>Ao - homocollabs>Ririka - homocollabs>Raden - homocollabs>Hajime - technically homocollabs but we can call this one cgdct>Kanade - cgdct>Shiori - homocollabs>Biboo - cgdct>Nerissa - cgdct>FWMC - double cgdct>ERB - homocollabs>Raora - cgdct>CC - cgdct>GG - cgdct>Riona>Su - cgdct>Chihaya>Vivi>Niko - cgdct?Can a numberanon tally this up?
>>109782258That's because 98% of Niji is 2 or 3 views that are given a randomly generated asset, no backstory and thrown to the wolves.Doesn't make it any "profound inspiration" material
>>109781865she's cucking the orc?
>>109782278You are listing six in this list. You could include ID3 for two more making eight.ID1 and ID2 alone almost matches that, throw Fubuki and Matsuri and it's already match
>>109782256I really dont get how you schizos can seethe at Raora when she has been this unproblematic and dramafree during her entire tenure and genuinely good to her fans
>>109782158they're low- to mid-tiers in EN fanbase, desuTakos can shapeshift too but on top of that they're made of bits of Void itself and effectively immune to damage
>>109782229>I'm like that fat grem, I don't care about greensHell yeah. Yellow bowl representing Gigi with CC's sexy legs on stream as desert
>>109782363TRVKE
>>109782278>technically homocollabs but we can call this one cgdct???
>>109782363wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
>>109782363Some ppl cant ignore her past I guess. I can, but shes not my oshi. I genuinely only dislike erb out of everyone right now, she is the only one that feels like she doesnt get it. Twitch collabs with random indies nobody knows, raiding and collabing with niji homos..shes just dumb.
>>109782407That’s not a man, right?
>>109781229Wait BJ had full MVs? I thought it was just the holo light up face with lyrics kind of deal.
>>109782403She was the ReGloss representative on that all-Cover song they released back in May.It's a very exceptional case because it should have been Ao but Ao was out of comission and Hajime decided to tank the blow.
>>109782439i wouldnt call a single instance >homocollabs
>>109782466Yes it is hooman, they're all grown adults capable of making their own decisions
>>109782500i consider mumei a whore but i dont consider her a homocollaber
Why are we seething at Mumei now
>>109782466that's why I said we can call it cgdct, I just didn't want to invite arguing about it. Covered under the Ina clause.
>>109782439That's quite the stretch, do you also consider Ina a homocollaber?
>>109782530no lmaoi has never streamed with a homo
>>109782522someone can't contribute to the airing of the grudges and feels left out
page 11nimi is a whore
>>109782530yes a song collab is still a collab
>>109782573touristchama...
>>109782570Yeah, mine
>>109782598eh a song collab with homoen is pretty bad, being in the holopro debut song is pretty bad, helping axel become part of the group is pretty bad. There's rationale and it never happened again but it's at least as bad as joining a worms collab.
>>109782639playing a game for fun is magnitudes worse than being in the same song together
>>109782621Randon??
>>109782407sex with that boy
https://x.com/i/status/2026709427747959109Neoporte talent being targeted by popular jp dramafag
>>109782692A bit of a wasted effort, the only Neoporte talent people give a shit about is Shibuya Hal.
>>109782415ERB is a massive culture clash, she brought in a whole new flavor of fan that holo didn't have before. You can argue if that's good or bad but yeah it's very different. From Covers perspective it is probably good since she successfully reached new audiences which not everyone in the fandom likes (e.g anti bloodraven jailbirds). I think that's also a reason why ERB doesn't suffer much under overlap since it's such a different audience
>>109782742>culture clash>whole new flavour of fan>look inside>it’s just lesbians
>>109782742>she brought in a whole new flavor of fan that holo didn't have beforrealistically how many people do you thing she brought on?
>>109782742what new audience, if anything it's gigi that brought in a lot of the troon community that complain about everything
ahem...NIMI SUCKS ORC COCK
>>109782799>it's just lesbians>look inside>penis
>>109782414/#/ doesn't seethe at Raora (In her debut season there was seethe but it died down when it was clear she won't homocollab). I've seen countless Raora baits thrown with 0 (You)s given. If you see seethe towards particular holos, it's most likely coming from an outsider. Seeing someone seething about Ina would unironically make me laugh
Shiori's stream has turned into a novelite collab.
What the actual fuck did Kson mean by this?I thought she left the company on her own terms Holokeks?
>>109782799>look at the label on the bag>councilRyS crossed out with a sharpie
>>109782887?
>>109782871One thing I like about Shiori is her effort to involve novelites in games where co-op or multiplayer is possible. Kinda wholesome
>>109782853Ina does get seethe posts every holo does
>>109782926yeah, from nijisanji fans
>>109782926nahi only see it when people point out she doesnt get seethe posts like you're doing right now so some rando jumps at the opportunity
>>109782853>Doesn't remember outfitschizo and lazyschizo that made half of /wah/ leave this place
>>109782881what was she playing?
Saiken, MDIf you're here, forgive me for writing a smut hetship fanfic of you.
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>62,551: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>41,599: Subaru (Hololive)>37,845: Kanae (Nijisanji)>32,841: Ririca (Indie)>26,997: Miko (Hololive)>24,632: Marin (Nijisanji)>24,603: Hajime (Hololive)>23,870: Pekora (Hololive)>22,375: Lauren (Nijisanji)>19,925: Meloco (Nijisanji)>18,917: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)>16,936: Ririca (Indie)>16,788: Lulu (Nijisanji)>16,504: Watame (Hololive)>16,160: Luca (Nijisanji)>15,380: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,380: Bae (Hololive)>14,091: Vivi (Hololive)>14,029: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>13,228: Ina (Hololive)>12,722: Bijou (Hololive)>11,456: Hinano (VSPO)>11,456: Amaui (774 inc)>10,988: Su (Hololive)>10,901: Nui (Nijisanji)>10,280: Riona (Hololive)Gold for Kuzuha with GTA with Subaru getting silver with Super Mario World and Kanae, bronze
>>109782853Ina used to get a LOTTTT of hate on the last days of /jp/ and first days of /vt/ because of whatever the fuck she did that day.Then some retarded came up with Trinity and that kinda solved the problem
>>109782956go lurk the archives
HOLY FUCK!>WHAT AN ERECTION!
>>109783034Shaka appeared for a SPLIT SECOND, if you blink you missed him
>>109783004Not really. Ina was called boring or a sleep inducer at times but she didn't get any real shit until she started her multiple hiatuses
>>109783004literally fake
>>109783034sorry that was me meloco is just really hot
>>109783004Trinityfags deserve the ropeThey enable even worse shit posting
>Kiara commented on the "clanker=racist slur" crowd>said she will keep saying clanker>said we SHOULD be using slurs against robots because they "deserve to be insulted"What did Roboco do to her...
>>109783057>old man shouts at cloudare the trinityfags in the room with us right now?
>>109783064damn... based wawa
>>109783068no they died after 2/3 graduated
>>109783068The mentality of Trinity only died with the LLD, the whole>Pure wholesome Holo lover girls vs WHOREScarried on for years
>>109783098>mentality of Trinity only died with the LLDhow are they related in any way?
>>109783064the discord's head mod was in chat weeping about normalizing slurs
>>109783064Wish we had a horse girl in en so we could use clopper.
>>109782812It's hard to put a number on it (kek). I don't watch her but when I checked out her early karaokes she was trying to explain hololive to normies every once in a while as if her audience was completely unfamiliar with it. I don't know if she had an analytical basis for that or if she was just that autistic to assume her audience didn't know what hololive is
she used to get a lot more lewds
>>109783064
>>109783115>Trinityposting depended on "pure" girls vs whores that will destroy Hololive from the inside, basically Holo vs Holo>Fauna was basically the poster child of this kind of shitposting, SNOTposting was just a reskin of Trinityposting.>The LLD comes and well guess what your unicorn queen got fucking married lol>People realize the whole idea of pitting "pure" Holos with other Holos is really fucking stupidBut it all started there with the Trinity, which later became SNOT, SNORyS, Indie Avengers, whatever iteration you want to use. You saw it many times, didn't ya? That image of the white women in Holo that had Fauna, Gura, Mumei, all of that is gone now, because of the LLD.
Would Filian really drop everything for Hololive? I can't imagine any of the current girls wanting to befriend her.
>>109783064Oh so that's why I was seeing random seethe about the clanker word from that lunchbox kfp
>>109783192fauna was never considered pure>unicorn queenin what world was fauna unicorn queen fucking lmao
>>109776376>>>/vt//pcg/
>>109783064She hates CC...
>>109783212Nerissa had a collab set up with her
>>109782881>What the actual fuck did Kson mean by this?Well, if you had a working brain, you'd realize that she's talking about not being included in the game.
>>109783212she's not graduating, she's doing an ARG of sorts to debut her new modelshe's being really weird about it for some reason and the ARG fucking sucks
>>109783212One thing a lot of people dont see with filian is the amount of effort she puts into being high energy and constantly trying to come up with funny comebacks and clip farm and setup events. To me that sounds like a lot of work and with how filian sounds on her alt streams where she sounds sedated and exhausted I could see her giving it up to see if being a corpo girl that just mostly streams and doesnt have to put in so much effort.
>>109783281yeah the new model is EN5
