>>110023820
keep selling hot sauce and silver. You could have been a holo you dumb bitch

>>110023820
she should sue her manager KRIMBO too

>brownoul

>>110023820
Grifter asmons company is a black company, surprise surprise

>>110023820
Mythic is just an overrated mail directing service. The only way they could be potentially evil is if they're extortionist like Yelp is.

talk about what? Grimmi vagueposting?

>>110024204
Or the reason that people say they do so little is that they're pocketing the majority of the money and doing the bare minimum to get talents sponsors , like, one every six months. I honestly don't know what's going on over there because Mythic also has a bunch of fleshstreamers on their roster, too.

>>110023820
no shit, sherlock

>>110023820
I think I gave up when Salvi started using the dramatuber chud lines on the Jelly shit and Haachama's will being was sweep under the rug after the virtue signaling about some 2022 break up at Niji.

>>110023842
she was never in holo she was in niji and is lying about being in fucking holo because it's convenient. Ironic, since if she kept her mouth shit she should have applied for en5. But not now.

>>110023820
I could have told you myself.
Just look at who owns it and what talents they manage

>any company that doesnt give me everything I want and sometimes tells me "no" = black company
basically how it works now

>>110023820
>twitter screenshot thread
>not only that but a tweet from fucking ernoul of all people.
OP whether or not you're ernoul you should kill yourself, as should ernoul because I know even if he isn't OP he'll be in this thread.

>>110025998
>is lying about being in fucking holo because it's convenient
Convenient to who?

>>110026426
to her.
>i was totally good enough to pass the holo audition guys! and then I said "nah" because it was a black company

>>110025998
You are an idiot

>>110023820
more like a blacked company

>>110023820
Yes but fags will pretend otherwise and when news comes out it is, theyll go "oh i already knew that" because theyre dumb fags

>>110026458
That's not even her MO. She doesn't really do bragging.
What would be her MO though is the idea that niji was being hammered by the public at the time due to the selen thing and her freaking out due to having friends there, trying to somehow defuse things by overcorrecting and defending the "underdogs."
She's a chronic fence sitter trying to appease both sides on every conceivable issue, even inserting herself in drama for no reason by attempting to mediate somehow.

>>110025998
>It's still coping

Does she explain how, or is she just desperate for attention?

>>110023820
This bitch literally had a piece of her brain missing, besides all mythic does is set up sponsors you can accept or reject at will

Uh oh! Mythic staff found the thread!

>>110023820
Asmontard company btw, someone should audit him to see how much trash he's got.

>>110027928
the fence is my penis

stop samefagging or else

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>>110023820
and their dark mysterious evil goal? to make as much money as possible. if you think you are above this then you are retarded shant elaborate.

for anyone curious about what she said here

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2713288000?t=01h41m35s

She does says it can be a potential legal case

>>110025998
>is lying about being in fucking holo because it's convenient
convenient would have been not saying anything you coping retard

>>110023820
grim

>>110023820
Hey guys its mr 4chan! Hi mr 4chan!!! Looking for another BASED take to repost as your own?

Normally I wouldn't have anything against her, but now? Fuck you now. If you're going to imply something, just say it, bitch.

>>110029372
>I'm mad at you because you won't tell me something that has nothing to do with me

>>110029372
anon literally posted a link of her explaining why she will not be the one speaking about it but you guys are too lazy to watch more than 5 minutes.

>>110029384
stfu grimmi, get your meds

>>110029423
>her explaining why
>literally vague post in circles

>>110029666
>say what happened was not direct with her
>but if someone else wants to pull her into the drama she has proof that something was happening
>don't want to be involved into the possible drama.

>>110023820
It's a western company after all they're into that kind of thing

>>110029781
explain niji

>>110029258
>says it's not something that affects just her but something that affects each talent individually
>everyone would be mad if they knew
>says
>"I 'm gonna say this much: I was severely underestimating how intense business stuff would be when it came to streaming and that's pretty much it I am very surprised how people can act .. uhh .. well doing what they do."
>"Unprofessional? No! Nope! It was very very intense and I will not talk about it. That's it."
>Says there were about three days after it happened where she spent them gathering info
>Says she won't talk about it unless she starts hearing weird rumors or stuff being spread about her because she hears that this happens when you leave a company on bad terms

Since Mythic pretty much only handles sponsorship shit my thinking is that it has to be something like (AND THIS IS PURELY MY CONJECTURE):
>Mythic spreading rumors about talents
>Mythic maybe trying to sabotage or undercut sponsorships that a streamer obtained without Mythic's help (because Mythic wouldn't get money in these cases).
>Some sort of shenanigans where they choose who gets sponsorships in some way in order to maximize profits for Mythic in a way that cucks individual talents.

>>110030198
might be all sorts of weird drama with management including sexual shit but she's pointing at this being business-related somehow so idk maybe it's another pyramid scheme where management's favorites get better treatment and others get fucked over.

She's talking about it now. Basically they were skimming more off the top of sponsorships than they said they were.

Something bad happened. Really bad. If other people knew they would be outraged. So bad. I can’t say anything because. But it’s bad, real bad. It’s bad just trust me bro

don't listen to Grimmi, she is payed by Seth

Grimmi is like Bao in that they can’t help but get themselves into situations via their own stupidity and debatably their trusting and spineless nature

>>110023820
First of all KYS for ernol posting
Second , buy an ad
And third , none cares about this dumb whore who is trying to get clout by pretending she said no to hololive

>>110033637
Grimmi living rent-free in Holofags heads is so funny

>>110030198
>Some sort of shenanigans where they choose who gets sponsorships in some way in order to maximize profits for Mythic in a way that cucks individual talents.
We already know this, everyone have talk about this, streamer that have connection with asmon will get high value sponsorship like at&t, msi, intel, while vtuber mostly get 1 sponsorship per month like nordvpn

>>110031565
Can anyone explain this, i can't see shit.

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>>110023842
>>110026458
>You could have been a holo
no she couldn't
Holos need to perform, sing, and dance. Grimmi may fall over and die if she leaves her basement. If she joined she would have been genuinely unhappy and she even said this herself.

> you dumb bitch
Rude, sounds like she dodged a bullet getting the attention of people like you.

The biggest problem is that for all her popularity: she has no self esteem so what would happen is a billion ESL subhumans like yourself would start saying this and she would believe it. She believes there is good in every person, and doesn't realize most of you chimpoids grew up in places that didn't have working toilets before the first PC was given internet access in your country, and this dogpiling on nice people is how you cope about going from the stone age to the internet age in the span of 20 years.

Joining a corpo like Hololive that would give her more numbers would give her more responsibility she can't take. She went over this once but I get if you only know about her from clips you get in Hindi or Orangutan or whatever you speak.

>>110025998
You stupid fuck.

>>110033806
kek, /#/ in shambles.

>>110033806
Grimmi has a brain cyst she's not crippled

>>110033922
She's not crippled, she has intense ssues about going outside and interacting with tons of strangers that is separate from the silly brain.
>Some of it related to her family history with cults

>>110032781
>>110032978
>>110033324
Cope more asmonfags kek.

every time the time is grimi when wnevery time griimi says and makes and does one of these application say it dont saty it dont say then we dont know ehn you saying shes doesn't even know when shes saying shes dont know that she got the store monmey and decided to go to the store and whent to the store with nthe money adn the time ran out and she decided to go outside and then her skin got tburned by the sun because its the en over the then without the who to why shes went to the store with a bandiad omn both her nipples really stupid idea if you ask me

>>110034408
Thanks Rahjeesh, your input is very valuable.

>>110033806
>>110033983
>he fell for it again

My schizo take, completely unsourced, is that Grimmi and other talents are being pushed to take a side on the current political happenings. *Taps the sign and points at Iran*

Assmongoloid has been pretty shameless about pushing his agenda, why expect different from Mythic?

>>110034575
I hope all you dirty fucking muslims gets cleansed off this planet

>>110034512
>fell for it
lol
this cope is as funny as saying she faked the xrays of her brain and actually has a husband and 3 children like what /#/ was trying to say a few years ago

Filian took the money and ran.

>>110034787
This
Filian needs it for her new kid

I was watching the stream earlier.
Basically the tl;dr is:
>Grimmi alleges (and she makes clear that this is "alleged") that Mythic was skimming a little extra off the top of the sponsorships.
>Grimmi made it clear that the issue wasn't the money itself, the the sponsorships were a lot of money for her and she wouldn't have minded giving Mythic more if they asked for it. However, the fact that they disrespected her and lied made her lose trust in them and this is why she left Mythic.
>She showed screenshots of two instances on stream where she verified the actual amount with the publisher.
>The first instance she showed is >>110033722 and basically they negotiated to pay out $2,100 to Grimmi from the publisher then skimmed an extra $100 (5%) only paying $2,000. When confronted about this they claimed it was a typo and she got paid the correct amount.
>The second instance she showed had the publisher negotiating a payout of $4,400 to Grimmi but she only got $4,000 with $400 being skimmed (10%). When confronted about this they claimed it was because it went through a marketing agency. However, this was negotiated with the same publisher through the same e-emails as the previous instance.
>She said she had more stuff but wanted to keep stuff for herself in case this went to court.
>When she asked Mythic to see the negotiation documents they refused to show them to her.
>She said that anyone who is with Mythic right now should also ask verify their stuff and ask to see their negotiation documents.
>She said she doesn't know how big this is, that it could just be one employee or it could be worse.
>She doesn't know if it will end up going to court at this point.
>After she finished talking about it she said she doesn't want to talk about this anymore and doesn't want anyone to bring it up in her presence again (including during the rest of the stream). She said she would be taking a week off after this stream.

>>110023820
>scammed by the jew guy into setting up a hotsauce company that she was holding the bag for (and is still trying to deal with)
>convinced by VShojo staff that Holo was bad and she shouldn't join
>scammed by mythic
I'm sure there are other examples. I know having a literal hole in your brain and being raised by an insane mother on a cult compound can really fuck someone up but SURELY at a certain point she'll realise she should actually seek advice from neutral third parties when egaging in business deals, right? SURELY. Because she's clearly massively out of her depth and doesn't seem to learn.

>>110035443
LMAO lily was so full of herself when vshojo exploded just for her own company being doing a vshojo.
KARMA IS A BITCH WHORE!

>>110035443
>left Mythic
Wait, she was in mythic?

>>110035897
a lot of people joined mythic after vshojo explosion. LMAO

>>110035443
This doesn’t sound convincing at all and reeks of “trust me bro”. I think it’s far more likely she doesn’t understand finance and is making mistakes

>>110035443
Did anyone ever leaked mythic contract agreement, what did they take for sponsorship anyway?

>>110035729
saar

>>110035972
read nigga READ...
>they negotiated to pay out $2,100 to Grimmi from the publisher then skimmed an extra $100 (5%) only paying $2,000. When confronted about this they claimed it was a typo and she got paid the correct amount.
Twice is not "mistake".

>>110035585
>predicted phase will have the best month on February this year
Well you know what happened.

>>110035972
>This doesn’t sound convincing at all
Yes it does, it literally happens all the time, there's nothing suspicious about this story at all

>>110036015
it' still really funny

>>110036046
A lot of people left them since november and the most notable was filian, she left without saying anything.

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>>110035443
Here's a screenshot of the second instance

thank you for all the (You)s, I don't even know who Grimmi is

>>110036130
Also, Mythic fucked up on this one and told her the deliverable was 4 hours instead of 2, so she did double. The sponsor was confused by this when she reached out.

>>110036134
reddit-tier comment

>>110036025
She THINKS $100 was skimmed. What if that 5% was their actual cut? What if it was an error? If she had more damming proof like she claimed she would only need to show one, but didn’t

>>110036353
>What if it was an error?
It happened twice and they refused to show her the correspondence

>>110036353
the second time they took 400 anon, lied to her face and refused to show her the contract... Yeah, nothing wrong here.

>>110033674
>Holofags
DYRBI

>>110036418
They also thought it was a 4 hour stream. What if part of that mixup caused them to increase the amount they take? As in they take x% per hour?

>AIEEEE I WAS ONLY PAID 4000$ dollars for 4 hours of work

>>110036485
Unless you know the specifics of the contracts it’s easy to manipulate data which could be done by either grimmi or Mythic. The “proof” proves nothing

Seeing all the Mythic defenders coming out of the woodwork both on the board and on twitter I do have to wonder whether just like Vshojo they have paid shills or whether the majority are just naive people.

>>110036540
thank you for sharing with us your NEET status.

>>110036481
They're really mad they she apparently dropped out for some reason, I assume because they think it implies Cover is a bad company not worth working for which is just wrong

>>110036540
A contract is a contract. If a sponsor believes a certain content creator's time is worth that amount based on reach then it's completely reasonable for them to pay what they want. That's capitalism. Don't like it? Move to North Korea.

>>110036566
>Mythic defenders
Nobody is defending Mythic, they're attacking Grimmi because she slandered Hololive

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hahahaha

>>110036566
Bruh they are part of OTK. They paid LSF to not post anything about them for years. I remember well when vei and soda did some really racist joke and mods were working overtime for 3 days scrubbing every post and mention of it. They even tried to hide the rape allegations lol

>>110036629
>slandered hololive
How? She said a senior vshojo employee slandered Hololive and she mistakenly believed them. You people are either ESL, lack basic reading comprehension, or just too retarded to live without a carer.

>>110036676
That's what they believe, not what I believe
Because Grimmi chose not to work there that implies Hololive isn't perfect or whatever
They will go to any lengths to make her look like a liar

>>110036629
retard+drone

>>110036744
The -20% is their cut.

>>110035443
lol dumb bitch

>>110036744
She is unironically is one of those people that needs a conservatorship.

Best case scenario: It was just one manager skimming Grimmi.
Worst case scenario: Everyone is secretly getting skimmed an extra 5-10% and maybe more, possibly as a commission or because there are bigger problems in the company.

It seems Vienna left them too the same day grimmi first talked about it.

>>110035443
She also said these are the documents that she's allowed to show. She has more.

>>110036914
mythic has a LOT of bigger people under them, if they are doing it to everyone this shit will blow up bad.

>>110026166
ernsoul raped you

If they negotiated 4400, and she was paid 4000. Doesn't that mean that they just got their usual 10% cut? I am confused lol

>>110037100
He's a seething indo (who's so insecure about that fact he uses a VPN to appear as though he's in Europe on twitter) and a /#/fag that antis all vtubers including Holos.

>>110037116
It's a bit confusing I think what she's trying to say is something like this
>game company offers $4400
>mythic tells grimmi they offered $4000
The -%20 you see on there is their cut, so the final offer is
>$3200 (with 800 being their cut)
So the $400 is from the original offer is gone.

>>110030198
More likely they're doing what Vshojo was doing. Negotiate a 20k payout for a sponsorship, expecting a 20% cut. Go to Grimmi "hey good news we got you a deal for 15k! Isn't that cool, now give us 20%." If it's true and it's not just her brain damage talking.

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>>110037190

Wasnt this the bitch who almost got in nijisanji before the Selen suicide incident happened
Who the fuck cares what her opinion is

>>110037390
No, she confirmed later it was Holo. She was convinced by Apek or one of the other vshojo managers that Cover was as bad as Anycolor and that she shouldn't go through, so she didn't. Still retarded.

>>110037390
Oh she has a MUCH worse history than that

defending this shit is wild. if it wasn't them skimming they would show her the negotiations that she requested, there would be no reason not to. this wasn't grimmi being naive like the other times she's been scammed, this was deliberately kept from her and hard to track down. exactly the same way vshojo did it as well
very curious how many people they've done this to

>>110023842
Kill yourself holobrony

>>110037491
>defending this shit is wild
It's because it's Grimmi

>>110037572
Her words were it's the biggest corpo, it's not Niji, and it's an 8 letter word

>>110037572
Grimmi didnt but her friend did.
>"I'm sad we couldn't meet in nijisanji"
This line can only have 1 meaning and its certainly not her friend being in nijisanji and Grimmi being in hololive
Grimmi applied and almost got in nijisanji before they drove Selen to suicide

>>110037572
She literally said she didn't join Holo because of what some Vshojo exec told her about what happened to 2 of the girls in EN who have since graduated that she liked. She doesn't actually know if what the guy said was true or not after it was revealed how much they were lying but that's the reason she bailed and Justice has only 4 people.

>>110037390
She confirmed it was Holo. Holofags get really annoyed that she turned it down for some reason and try to say that it wasn't.

>>110037491
Grimmi is legit retarded, until someone more reliable speaks up I just going to assume she didn't read her contract. My bet is 1 - They specified that they can take a extra % from some sponsors or 2 - They are taking an extra for the processing/bank fees.

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>>110023820
Geega will save all vtubers.

>>110037629
Here's her clarifying the original comments. From about 2:19 onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgZLyZ55zQs

>>110037711
nice try but no. one she was told was a typo, the second they claimed it was a marketing agency fee but it was the exact same negotiation team on both sides as the previous one

>>110037711
>I just going to assume she didn't read her contract.
You should probably read what she actually said instead of assuming

>>110037734
>A guy from vshojo said it
Lines that aged like the poorest of milk products available on planet earth

>>110037713
I find GEEGA funny because she's regularly at the crime scene whenever a vtuber nukes their career.
>VOX YOU NEED TO DO A STREAM CONDEMNING YOUR FANBASE, I AM 100% BEHIND IT
>CCV crumbles
Really makes one think

>>110037781
This was after all the Vshojo shit which is why she felt comfortable with saying it (because it had also come out - from Vei if iirc - that the senior management was running psyops against Holo)

>>110037802
>she felt comfortable admitting she listened to vshojo and was possibly already in the company like Mint but lied to her fans and everyone
What the fuck?

>>110037842
What are you talking about? She wasn't in Vshojo. They were obviously trying to get her, or just fuck with Cover.

>>110037711
>until someone more reliable speaks up
I think it's reasonable to wait in general. She's still streaming now so there won't be any clips or VOD timestamps until she's done and it probably won't start spreading through the vtuber community till tomorrow.
Ultimately the reason she made the information public is so that other talents with mythic could also verify their shit to make sure they're not getting skimmed too.
Who knows, maybe tomorrow there will be a lot of people saying their shit is normal and Mythic will make a statement clarifying things. Maybe there will be a lot of other streamers saying their shit is sus too. Not really much else we can say until then.

>>110037728
They actually do.

>>110037746
>>110037775
>she was told
>she said
Maybe I was not clear enough, I believe she is RETARDED. I do not trust her, until someone else more reliable, or more proof is showed, I am going to assume, there's a reasonable explanation. Mythic have a pretty big group of influencers under them, I do not believe Grimmi is smart enough to be the ONLY ONE to caught this. I also don't believe they are doing this ONLY to her.

>>110037842
Are you genuinely illiterate?

>>110037963
A reasonable explanation is someone skimmed the money she was supposed to be paid
Other people have also left Mythic
There's nothing unusual about this situation

>>110037963
Noticeably though there have been A LOT of creators (both vtuber and otherwise) who've quietly left or been removed recently. I remember it was suggested Filian had gone because she was basically told to leave over the Russian shit but given who owns the company that never made sense to me, so now I'm wondering if she left of her own accord because they were fucking with her too.

But yes, Grimmi is incredibly retarded.

>>110030198
I've heard that a couple of vtubers got stalked by a mythic employee, and has been sharing their personal details around.

Won't be surprised if someone there is doxxing or selling the personal information of streamers.

>>110029237
"Bankers" defiled his dads place of worship so they could watch rooster fight to the death, they also let cows shit in the temple

>>110037966
sorry English isnt my first language

>>110034408
Kino this should be a copylasta.

>>110034512
Nigga she was doxxed we literally know the cult she grew up in.

>>110038192
doesn't help she openly talk about the cult when someone ask about it

>>110036636
Broken clock nigga.

>>110038192
why her teeth fucked up

>black company
>sponsorship consultant

Does anyone know what words mean anymore? If there's a manager overbilling and pocketing the money that's just being shitty, not really that crazy at all.

it's crazy that mythicfags are doing damage control for free here and on twitter. Brother, this is asmongold company. KEK

>>110038289
Anon, read the thread. The claims aren't that they were taking their agreed upon cut, they were misinforming her of the original amount offered by the sponsor, taking the extra, and then taking a cut of the lower remaining amount. That's not just being shitty that's breach of contract.

>>110038328
don't forget refusing to show her the contract.

>>110038328
Yes that's what I said they're stealing from both ends. I didn't say it wasn't bad, just predictable.

i remember reading that otk was in crisis since the rape plague and asmon going full chud but i never expected them to go full vshojo.

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>>110035443
>Mythic was skimming a little extra off the top of the sponsorships.
They learned from the best

>>110037917
>Ultimately the reason she made the information public is so that other talents with mythic could also verify their shit to make sure they're not getting skimmed too.

While her allegations could be true, this is just pure manipulative bullshit. She's been working on a legal case and saw the most opportune time to go public since Mythic is being dog-piled on because of Asmongold. That's all.

If her concern was truly the talents, she could have easily just contacted them privately while the legal process goes on. She's not some random twitter user, but an established vtuber that was in the same agency as them. A DM wouldn't be bizarre.

Instead she purposefully vague posted to gauge reactions and know how much information she'd have to share to get people on board. That's why, despite "being unable to talk about it because it could be a legal issue", she could immediately sit down on stream and go over it.

>>110038319
we all like asmon here

>>110038279
Because of the cult!

>>110035729
>KARMA IS A BITCH WHORE!
except that Mythic is deeply integrated with GamerSupps now, so there is a good chance she is getting some of the scam money. So the karma is most likely not hitten HER.
Also, karma only comes into play in your next rebirth cycle, the whole "it was karma" thing doesn't work like that.

>>110035729
>he doesn't know...
Shylily has a finger in every pie she is likely getting a huge pay check from this shit.

Good thing we have Phase Connect as a shining example of how a good western company is run.

>>110038768
polturds like you should kill themselves

>>110037963
Tell me you're a corpo indoctrinated American without actually saying it. Precisely because she is naive, somewhat foolish, but more because of her personal experiences, she has all the credibility; people like her never lie. On the other hand, one of the founders of that corpo is a guy who likes to brag about how he ruined the economy in an MMO game to improve his earnings. Professional ethics are always reflected in the smallest details.
>>110036636
I can see that he is quite experienced in these matters lmao.

>>110023820
Grimmi cute

Gri "trust me bro" mmi strikes again.

Grimmi antis are more mentally unwell then she is.

I'm not very familiar with twitch but I just went to look and her vod from yesterday isn't up?

>>110040151
she posted proof anon, you can stop now

>>110041971
she deleted the vod but... just for you
https://d1m7jfoe9zdc1j.cloudfront.net/42e97ea4d3f1a2dc6076_grimmi_318011759449_1772852600/chunked/index-dvr.m3u8

It start around 27:06

>>110040634
Assmong pays fiverjeets to run cover for his black company

>>110042140
Thanks anon

>>110042140
>>110042218 (Me)
Did she say why she deleted it? Like, did she not want people clipping it or did she change her mind about it?

>>110042272
she probably just wanted to reassure her viewers and avoid the classic dramafaggots trying to cut parts out of context.

>>110023820
Isn't she clinically missing half her brain or something?

When stuff like this happens usually a lot more people come out with their story too, if no one speaks up in the next few days I am just going to assume it's a nothingburguer

>>110039864
>one of the founders of that corpo is a guy who likes to brag about how he ruined the economy in an MMO game to improve his earnings.
This guy probably thinks pkers are murderers

>>110043166
Depends. Took a month or two for Vshojo to implode with just a trickle of talents leaving until Ironmouse made her video. Like other anons in the thread have said there have been quite a few vtubers quietly being dropped from the list of Mythic talents/affiliates/whatever they're called.

>>110023856
Suing your boyfriend is frowned upon

This was on the front page I don't visit this board ever who are this literal whos

>>110044004
Why would you care if you don't use the board?

>>110044058
Idk

>>110035897
Mythic was/is a shadow corpo, it's behind a lot of people.

>>110044099
I wouldn't necessarily call it a shadow corp; it has a searchable list of people in it and at least with chuubas they usually mention being a part of it themselves.
https://www.mythictalent.com/creators

>>110043796
>there have been quite a few vtubers quietly being dropped
That's kinda normal desu, twitch streamer tend to change agencies all the time. Vshojo only took that long because the girls felt emotionally close to the company and their employees. Mythic is faceless, literally nobody cares if they die, in fact, people want them to die because of their relationship with Asmongold. So they either are going to explode in the next few days or nothing is going to happen and everybody is going to move on.

Why the fuck did Grimmi talk about this to her chat and not secretly sued Mythic while disassociating herself from the corpo? The evidence she gave out isn't THAT convincing. She ALREADY has expectations that it will go to court so why not wait until AFTER the lawsuit has been filed. The way she did it could be construed as a malicious smear campaign due to a contract disagreement.

Grimmi is known for lying and heavily exaggerating things so i wouldn't believe anything she says until someone more reputable comes out

>>110044696
She said she wasn't sure if it would go to court. Even if she does pursue legal avenues it doesn't mean it will necessarily go to court, it could just end up as a settlement.
She didn't tell people to avoid mythic or anything like that just said that other talents with mythic should check that they're not getting skimmed as well.
Really, it would be worse if it became a scandal years later and it turned out she knew this whole time but kept it hush hush.

Nah who takes Grimmi seriously though? She's somehow even worse than Shondo on Vagueposting about people she has no connection to, total libtard behavior

>>110044890
>vagueposting
She spoke about it on stream yesterday. See >>110035443

>>110044696
because this is en vtubing and nobody ever sues for anything despite what the armchair legal monkies on vt and twitter think

also grimmi is possibly the biggest liar in western vtubing and that covers a lot of ground. I wouldn't believe a word she said even if her tongue was notarized

>>110044727
>>110045013
name one thing she lied about

>>110044860
It would only be worse if she actively ran defense for Mythic. Right now she is making drama for her fans and Mythic. She might be in the right with her accusations but, if Mythic is feeling especially retarded and ruthless, she's opening herself up for a slander lawsuit (which COULD happen but is very unlikely). She's taking a legal issue and putting it in the court of public opinion.

>>110045461
In a slander lawsuit, Mythic would have to show that Grimmi knowingly said false things with the intention of damaging Mythic, and they would have to prove monetary damages. Based on what she said on the stream I think it would be impossible to argue a case like that.
Grimmi said on her stream that Mythic has a lot of nice people that this isn't about politics or any talents or owners of Mythic or anything. That she's not even sure if the people she spoke to knew what was going on or if they were also being misled and so on. Basically went out of her way to defend Mythic and just said that other Mythic talents should check that their numbers are correct.

>>110045589
Fair enough. I got a worse impression than the truth. I still think keeping quiet would have been the smarter thing to do but she at least covered her bases.

>>110045589
Most likely outcome is Mythic sending Grimmi a massage, something like "Hey I am X, sorry that you had a bad experience with us, here is a more detailed explaination about our cuts and why we took the extra 10%. This is our mistake and we sincerely apologize for it" After that they are goign to ask Grimmi to not talk about it for some legal reason. Grimmi is going to forgive them and she is never going to talk about this ever again. Few more days and everybody is going to move on.

>>110026110
In this case they were pocketing a chunk of her sponsor money without telling her...

mythic has always been a gatekeeping organization meant for keeping other streamers coming up from taking attention away from ironmouse so they can control the scene in the west
now that ironmouse is starting to fall off hard they really don't need her attention and can start calling out what has actually been going on behind the scenes as yet another corpo-lite group implodes

goodbye losers

>>110023820
lol seems its the same shit as Vshojo

>>110048085
i dont see why the guys in charge would care about mouse

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https://xcancel.com/MythicTalent/status/2030420457716068559

>kicking out asmon
huh I thought they were a glorified email list how they have the power kick anyone out?

>>110052225
It's odd because as far as I'm aware he already stepped back from having anything to actually do with it, he just still owned it.

>>110023820
>Hot sauce
>Easily scammed by vshojo
>Ripped off by twitchfags
At a certain point it has to be her fault somehow

>>110051779
So, I guess the consequences came to Asmon.

>>110051779
my schizophrenic rrat is that the shit is REALLY bad and asmon wants nothing with it when the first bomb explode.

>>110044727
tell me then why the others also left mythic, twitchtranny

>>110052729
He still has some ownership over it like with OTK, right? He will still get flak because he is still related.

>>110052729
It is supposed that Asmontard was no longer part of the board, he was just another “talent.” It is good that they cut ties with him (assuming that is true and not just another lie), but it makes me wonder what else they were covering up.
>>110052729
Isn't it because he's already fully immersed himself in politics and is attacking anyone who disagrees with him?
>>110044727
>lying and heavily exaggerating
No, I don't think you're familiar with her. She's known for being naive and easily manipulated. She's gotten pretty good at dealing with the latter, but she's still quite naive.

>>110053076
>she's gotten pretty good at dealing with the latter
>having a drama where she got ripped off by another corpo
Clearly not.

>>110052729
this was the assumption I came to as well before he gets sued for whatever and needed to take his name off it immediately

>>110037342
She's not really losing $400 in this scenario, because 4,400*0.8 is 3,520. And 3,520-3200 is $320. Still, sounds illegal to not properly disclose the agreed negotiation amount and skim extra money from the streamer that wasn't agreed on.

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Damn, another livestreamer agency caught not paying talents. Isn't it crazy how hard it apparently is to just send the checks on time with the correct amounts? Imagine a talent agency that didn't regularly scam it's members.

If anything happens to grimmi I am nuking the moon.

>>110029312
mi

>>110051779
Thanks for posting an xcancel link my nigga too many people here willingly use Twitter.

>>110023820
>Oy' may't wher's my 100 dollar gun'?
>P-please we need to earn some revenue too f-for promoting you
>AIN' NO WAE YOU STEALIN FRO' ME!!!!!
>Here, we returned it! Sorry Queen!
>GUN' CALL ALL MY FEMINIZT FANBASE TO CANCER YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>110036566
>Seeing all the Mythic defenders coming out of the woodwork both on the board and on twitter I do have to wonder whether just like Vshojo they have paid shills or whether the majority are just naive people.
Asmon can afford shills to stoke the flames for his legion of retards to take up arms right after.

>>110056340
Anon please never post that pic again, or if you do at least spoiler it. I'd rather have the Grimmi scat fag back.

>>110036566
They're not Mythic defenders, it's just Asmongold's sphere of right wing influencers trying to protect their dear leader's bag. Watch them make threads about how terrible Mythic is now that he's out

>>110056546
No

>>110024156
Lmao

>>110051779
KWAB

>>110037205
Dude's the worst kind of scum but this at least has legs.
Broken clock, etc. etc.
Regardless if Mythic are skimming off the top and not informing the actual streamer, that is absolutely illegal.

>>110056679
It’s easy to spot the subhuman leftoids. Still waiting to hear why he left. I bet it’s because of Kaceytroon and the rest of you subhumans harassing people

>>110052885
He retained his ownership until just now, he's jumping off the ship to save his own ass

>>110061729
Mowtengold

>>110056340
chat is this real

No but seriously I see this image everywhere and Asmon is a known degenerate so it could be real

>>110023820
Grimmi's mods love the taste of donkey dick and Sabra so she trusts the wrong persons and groups quite frequently.
Time for her to talk to a lawyer about getting a better deal. She will most likely screw that one up too.

grimmi won bigly

>>110062280
yes it real and he is a massive tranny hater too

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https://x.com/MythicTalent/status/2030542967023497536
lol, guess they decided to call her a liar.

looks like kirsche was taken off mythics talent page

this wouldnt happen in niji

>>110066359
Who will she blame for this?

>>110066359
I looked around and apparently she hasn't been on the page for months due to some problem with the site?
https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1ohxs8a/comment/nlscd2h/

>>110066404
Yeah because they deny sponsorships

>>110067123
just checked wayback she was on the website in february

>>110023820
She had a bf so dropped

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If Kirsche did leave it could've been cause of the Asmongold split.

>>110067194
Every girl streamer has a bf. They're surrounded by hundreds of groomers at any given time.

>>110023820
Black JP companies might treat their talents like shit, but at least when they rob them, it's in the actual contract

>>110067250
>I guess we have to nuke bumfuckistan because they are mean to super powerful america

>>110052225
>kicking asmon
Asmon is an owner, noone can kick him out.
This is damage control to make it look like he is no longer associated with Mythic while he keeps the cash flowing in the background.

>>110037713
>>110037791
Save vtubers? She would be more than happy to let them suffer with a black company if she could get away with it. People have no idea how stupid GEEGA thinks the Vshojo fanbase is, that is because she's probably right, which is why she got away with it. You cannot believe a word this bitch says
>Leaving Vshojo was a business decision
>Left because she could handle the merch and sponsorships without them
>didn't have anything to do with any specific decisions they made
>Anything I didn't explicitly say myself, they made it up
https://youtu.be/SnScmV2CIrw?si=6qzLMn2LzcICeqwt&t=603
>I also did see a lot of writing on the wall, but until I had solid reasoning to say this is true, I didn't want to move on anything, obviously. And then over time I did find out things were in fact true, and I went "OH NO!" and decided to leave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TplX9ibsg0E&t=21s
Well which was it ? Was it for business, or was it because the list of shitty things the company was exposed for?

>>110068588
Matara Kan did something similar after she left. Even put out a statement defending Vshojo and telling people not to call it a black company and stuff. Vtubers will generally try to reduce controversy and shit.

>>110048085
Mythic has multiple talents that are as big as Mouse, or bigger.

>>110037512
INDIESEETHE

Fairweather faggot CyYu jumping off this sinking ship any moment now

>>110068588
All of them shilled Vshojo almost till the end only when Ironmouse dropped the nuke they decided okay it's over we can and should paint it as black company now because this shit is going down never to recover. Geega would defend Vshojo business side to "debunk" myths about how they take all the merch money and shit.

>>110069503
all of that was true from the point that they joined (minus ama), it was at the end where they started stealing it by not paying the talents

>>110067250
Chud agency dropping the first Chudomino

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>>110066281
>claim Grimmi received full payment of $4,400
>Grimmi actually received $4000

>>110036636
>Japanese companies
They learnt that shit form the USA, hell even Idol culture came from the fucking west, reminder that John lennon was forced to not tell anybody he was in a relationship or it would destroy the ''fantasy'' his female fans had

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>>110071338
yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Their third explanation contradicts their previous two explanations (which also contradict each other) and the pictures Grimmi showed show
>(-20%)
which is presumably Mythics cut but doesn't align with 100 of 2100 or 400 of 4400.

>>110066281
>she didn't communicated with us
They literally said the 400 were tax from some bullshit and refused to show contract.Yeahhhhh...

>>110023820
It's funny that baldmongold got kicked out at the same time, even if its for obvious PR reasons for something unrelated.
His own fans that would defend mythic to the death are turning on the agency for "kicking" him out (he's an owner so it doesn't mean anything).

>Phase Connect
>Somehow the least black company in the industry
>Only black company thing they've done is throwing Jelly under the bus to appease woke hatemobs and subversive cunts in the industry
>Their biggest ever mistake was hiring a woke commie retard who tried to force politics in the company and was such a cunt to her coworkers that she got kicked out

Maybe chudmaxxing and throwing out wokes is the way to go?

>>110071816
He left on his own anon.

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>>110072564
Clara left on her own, apparently for entirely unrelated reasons. As for the chuds, they tried to boycott Phase and it had virtually no impact on anyone's numbers. It's just a small loud minority of non-viewers who care more about politics than any talent.

>>110072564
>least black company in the industry
This is the vtuber world equivalent of saying a ship is unsinkable, you realise that right?

>>110072578
did he know that the house of cards is collapsing and distanced himself from any negative PR blacklash?

>>110073215
seem like good timing becuase all the twitter chuds think he was fried becuase kacytron canceled mob him. they are all ignoring the money drama

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>>110033806
holy whiteknight
embarrassing, she isn't going to fuck you

>>110074762
That's more a holofag delusion than an indie delusion, as you'd know.

>>110072564
>Maybe chudmaxxing and throwing out wokes is the way to go?
get woke go broke, so clearly the opposite also applies, if you yeet the wokes you will become rich

>>110035443
>Grimmi shows up
>makes an allegation
>produces 2 instances of possible skimming
>hints at more and hints at court
>"I don't want to talk about this anymore, nobody bring it up in my presence again. I'm going to take a week off."
>leaves

This isn't the right play to make if you're telling the truth. I totally get keeping some things close to your chest but dropping allegations and then forbidding any further discussion of it before dipping out for a break is shitty behavior.

>>110072564
>>Only black company thing they've done is throwing Jelly under the bus
how is backing your 35 others talents from 1 retarded girl clout farming and her jeopardzing all of their concerts, sponsors, con apps "throwing talent under the bus?"

>>110074835
>This isn't the right play to make if you're telling the truth.
Talking about it at all in public isn't the right way but shutting the fuck up about it and not answering questions or going into further details absolutely is if there's going to be legal action.

>>110074835
She kind of went on and on about how she didn't want to talk about it but felt she had to cause other people could be affected. At the end of the day she doesn't hate Mythic or anything and just wants to play games on stream.

>>110074957
she was forced after the mythicshills start to harass and lie about her just lie the retards ITT, now that she exposed them even the baldking left to shield himself.

>>110033806
>perform
Streaming counts as such I suppose.
>sing
In many covers, it is obvious that they edit vocals.
>dance
Do they really do that? It's easy to hire dancers.

>>110038768
eww

>>110074835
>This isn't the right play to make if you're telling the truth.
>...is shitty behavior.
Holy parasocialism batman.

>>110075884
You good? You're using words wrong again.

>>110023820
this is the third time shes done something like this im starting to think Grimmi is the problem here

>>110075955
>again
And a schizo as well!

>>110076035
How the hell was >>110074835 being parasocial?
Try actually making a coherent point instead of using words you don't seem to know the meaning of.

>>110076121
>This isn't the right play to make if you're telling the truth.
Should be: "I think this isn't the right play to make if you're telling the truth."
>but dropping allegations and then forbidding...
Should be: "but I think dropping allegations and then forbidding..."

Now, there are two reasons someone might think they know better than a person directly involved with the situation.
The first is that they're retarded and their beliefs come from confidence born out of ignorance.
The second is that they're so emotionally blinded that they trick themselves into thinking that they are on the same level of awareness of a person who doesn't even know them.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you were the latter. Please do feel free to correct me if you're the former, though.

>>110076611
Nta but you don't seem to understand what parasocialism is.

>>110073079
Nah it did hit everyones numbers except Jelly who gained a couple thousand subs and about 500 temporary ccv until she scared them away with autism streams

>>110076669
Someone thinking they're on the same level as another person who doesn't even know they exists is literally what parasocialism is.

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https://x.com/SheefGG/status/2030653594479866127
It's so over for Mythic LMAO

>>110076611
Word policing while fundamentally misunderstanding the meaning of those words? Color me shocked.
That stupidity aside, you're making a lot of assumptions here. First is the idea that you can only have a valid opinion on what's going on if you're directly involved. That's bullshit.
Second is that similar circumstances somehow don't exist, that other similar problems have never happened before to others or to the poster themselves and that they're speaking out of ignorance. You have literally zero way of knowing that but you're running with that anyway, ironically, out of ignorance.
Third is thinking the poster is somehow "emotionally blinded" and "tricking themselves" into thinking they're "on the same level of awareness" of someone else. Boy, you don't have any fucking idea what you're saying with that statement. At all.
It wouldn't be an assumption to call you a fucking retard based on the clear and repeated insistence (>>110076793)
that you don't understand what parasocial behavior actually is, it would be a set in stone fact.

English may or may not be your first language but regardless of that you clearly don't understand it as well as you think you do and you have no business playing at being a grammar nazi.

That said: Grimmi is not handling this the right way. It's the same playbook many MANY others use to stir up shit when they don't have enough information to make a clear cut statement and are upset over perceived slights against them. It's also worth noting that Grimmi has a track record of making financially retarded decisions. Taking that loan from MSM so she could take over selling the hot sauce was a monumentally stupid decision and she literally ended up paying for it. Now she's showing two 'possible' instances of skimming, outright calling it skimming AFTER leaving the company and then refusing to elaborate further and preemptively shutting down future discussion.

Unless she has granite-hard facts and numbers that proves this was a pattern of willful theft, she's putting herself at risk of a defamation case.
If she HAD actual proof then a public call out like she did is not the right play to make, going straight to a lawyer would be.

>>110076888
the fact they wrote 6 paragraphs going "nu uh" and not just saying "we're suing you for damages" is telling.

>>110077166
Vienna ditched the agency couple of days too, with asmon rat ditching around the time this drama started.

Filian just unfollowed Mythic on twatter
pretty damning when even in death you don't want to be associated with them

>>110077297
Filian - Mythic stuff has been going on for a long time now. Remember that after the russian vtuber collab drama when the studio behind Vtuber awards decided to ditch it for collabing with Russians, Filian was removed from talent list on Mythic website and she stopped doing anything with them, but never said a word about it. So it was long believed that she was either kicked out / left on herself back then, just wasn't announced.

>>110076888
There's a vtuber quoting that guy's tweet saying she had a similar issue. I wonder whether all the Mythic shills in the QTs and comments calling her a retard (to be fair she is, but on this occasion it doesn't seem to be the cause) and defending Mythic like it was a football team or something are going to quietly delete them soon or whether they'll pretend it never happened. Really weird how people can be so defensive over something that everyone keeps saying is supposedly just a glorified mailing list.

>>110077870
>defending Mythic like it was a football team or something
It's amazing how retarded people are willing to behave when it comes to attacking those that they have labeled as a mortal enemy.

Asmongold just called Grimmi a retard on his stream.

>>110078210
Clip or didn't happen

>>110078238
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2717279722?t=01h34m10s

>>110077870
There are also a lot of people never even in mythic saying “I had a similar experience in mythic”. The one person I say saying that who was, got fired for filing hundreds of chargebacks against people they commissioned

>>110076888
LOL all the shills in the replies saying mythic will sue him... Sue for what? KEK

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>>110056340
As easily as Zach stoked the flames in his house when he burned his mother alive?

The last I heard about Grumbo was scammed with a hot sauce business. Now something about her selling silver and getting scammed by mythic? What the fuck is she doing?

https://x.com/i/status/2030759238277206274
Grimmi doubled down and went full anti Mythic with deme supporting her in replies

>>110081477
I'm on Grimmi's side, but what a nonsensical statement. Wtf did she even want to accomplish with it?

>>110081553
It's her usual "I don't want any trouble, please don't harass anyone BUT this company wronged me, everyone should be aware of it and I'm going to go back into hiding until this blows over." shtick. She's always played this innocent mousey cinnamon roll act whenever she's spoken up about anything, and it's tiresome.

>>110073079
Your history revisionism is crazy
Their boycott forced sakana to apologise privately because people refunded their merch and unsubbed to talents en masse.
Now a private apology isn't much but it's not nothing.

>>110081477
why has no one lawyered up and sued for liable instead of twitter titty twitsting

>>110081988
Because contrary to popular belief, suing someone or something takes up a substantial part of your free time.

>>110078210
>>110078274
He spoke about it some more, saying it is a ridiculous lie
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2717279722?t=04h17m56s

>>110082295
Of course he'd say that. He owns part of Mythic.

Not to defend mythic or shit on grimmi but what the fuck are we doing here? Vague post about stuff but not wanting to start stuff. Not sending your talent the documents, being vague about fees and skimming money.
Not wanting the money but taking this to court over a few hundred bucks.
Vtuber drama is retarded and a nothing burger as always.

>>110082995
>Vague post about stuff but not wanting to start stuff.
Typical woman behaviour.

>>110082295
>"It's complete bullshit guys"
>*leaves the company immediately*

>>110082995
Well, she started small and escalated when they didn't respond to her concern. It's not contrary to think she didn't go in wanting to do it.

The bald nigger is taking a lot of Ls recently

>>110082295
>That's a total lie, guys!
>Receipts have already been shown
>Leave the company immediately
Since the incident with mizkif, asmontard is clearly feeling very comfortable trashing on anyone who crosses his path.

>>110024156
They're a lot worse than just grifters, that's for sure. Why can't we just turn these psychopathic grifters' gatekeeping against them and filter them out of our communities already? No sane person would ever consider anyone who says deranged shit like this a centrist. You can now add "mass killing really works" to the list of psychopathic shit Asmeinkampt has said btw. These are the real parasites poisoning our communities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W114VBAlb4g

>>110089988
i want more people like this in every community. sick of being fed woke shit everywhere and having every writer and developer be some silicone valley hipster woke faggot ass troon loving retard. you fags had your time shitting up everything over the past decade. enough is enough and its time for a change

>>110090311
Can you make that buzzword salad any longer? Looking a little lean

>>110087289
>incident with mizkif
Can I get a qrd?

>>110081477
>with deme supporting her
This is like Ian Miles Cheong taking your side on Xitter.

>>110083129
On that note, whatever happened with the Takahata101 situation? He just fucked off after the allegations and said he was lawyering up.

>>110089988
He's just Hasan of the Right now.