Niko will be going on an extended hiatus due to "adjustment disorder", the same disorder that Ao had. She's recovering from the death of her cat.https://x.com/hololivetv/status/2030801880688074896
Damn. I was hoping Riona would be the first one gone.
>>110086174She came back from a hiatus due to another cat dying a few months, so I'm more optimistic
Kiyorito?
>>110086174Isn't this the same condition Ao-kun got before she did not come back?
>>110086174Good bye Niko
Hololive is a white company...
who?
>>110086174>adjustment disorderwhen the hololive brainwashing is starting to wear off...
Funny how they announced this the day after FES...
>>110086174>diagnosed in december>conveniently only made public the day after fesI'm sure all the work she did in between was completely voluntary.
>>110087075EOP-retard...
>>110087243>>110087229
>>110087075>>110087229>force them to work in mentally exhausted stageblack company
>>110086174i wonder who will develop "adjustment disorder" next
>>110087229>conveniently only made public the day after fesAlmost as if she didn't just say on stream just now that Cover's policy now is to force them to take days off as soon as possible (probably after Kanata refused their "mere" suggestions to and ended up graduating) and she decided the "blank", free time after Fes was the best choiceHer own summary in case anon is too lazy to watch the streamhttps://x.com/koganeiniko/status/2030804948905337294
>>110086174Not trying to be an anti but why the fuck are the girls I like always affected. First it was Raora's back to back breaks, and now this.
>>110087628>Not trying to be an anti but
>>110087668>Ame was my first oshi>Chloe was my favorite HoloX>Ao wasn't my favorite but she was a fresh gimmick>now NikoI'm not an anti like SNOTfags but this is getting fishy
>>110086425The difference is she actually has it while Ao made it up.
>>110087721>I'm not an anti like SNOTfags but
>>110086235It was never a hiatus. It was an announcement of reduced stream activities. She kept working as usual on the background.This is the first time she's taking a proper break from everything because she hasn't been able to get better.
don't ask questions just get excited for next acrylic stand.
>>110086174has niko ever done anything? out of all the flow glow girls she's the one I least heard of.
>>110087862she spreads her legs when sitting that's all i know
>>110086301Machine translation. Her name in kanji is 虎金妃笑虎 and the machine translation cannot not read that as "Koganei Hiyorito"
Hololive is good.
>>110087628Lol, are you Pippa? Her oshis went from Artia to Coco to Aqua to Ame
>>110086768>Didn't force Kanata to take a break when she had menhera issue and just suggested her to (which she declined)BAD>Now force the girls to take breaks as soon as possible when they have menhera issueBADWhat is Cover supposed to do...
>>110086174Ao and Niko with the same issue huh why is it always the funny ones
>>110088065>Now force the girls to take breaks as soon as possible when they have menhera issueActually they didn't do that with Niko and had her go through fes.
>>110088044how many stocks does she own anyways?
>>110088123Ao's issue was wanting to get away from her genmates to hang out with Marine.It's not even close to what Niko is dealing with.
Ao:>fes>adjustment disorder hiatus forced by Dr. Management>2 year anniversary>new regloss album announced>regloss concert announced>3 weeks later, graduationNiko:>fes>adjustment disorder hiatus forced by Dr. Management (YOU ARE HERE)>2 year anniversary>new flowglow album announced>flowglow concert announced>3 weeks later, graduation
>>110086225Why? You can't even understand her streams, what's wrong with her aside being a normal human girl over the age of 18?
>>110088247Why act like they're the same when they're not?
Who? Is that Hololive? Never heard of her
>>110086174Which one is this?
>>110088065Let Kanata has more managers who willingly signs same NDA with her as her suggested Cover 2 years ago. Or at least, send more staff to help her you dumb fuck bootlicker
>>110088412im insinuating this is a management suggestion to end a contract on good terms by pushing a mental illness story then graduating the talent within the ambiguity of "the talent being sick and been gone too long to continue the relationship"her rm was very popular, maybe this vtuber thing felt like more hassle than it was worth and she wants out and management wants to cut ties on their terms where they wont look as bad.
>>110088143Niko said they did. The keyword is "as soon as possible" and not "as soon as they were diagnosed". She decided to take a break during the period after Fes so her break wouldn't fuck other members up
>>110088453>Let Kanata has more managers who willingly signs same NDA with herAnyone who isn't very carefully vetted can't be trusted, even with an NDA. >Or at least, send more staff to help her youThey don't have enough staff, that's why they have been trying to get more unless you are saying they should've moved the supports for other girls to Kanata instead. Kanata herself acknowledged this and said it will take time.
>>110088065Don't be an asshole and send some competent in 800 employees helping Kanata before she decides graduation. She even admit that she pee in fresh blood because of overworking from beginning last year and they just pile more work to her they really want her soul death.I will say this again.> All of heimin won't turn to full time antis should be call Hololive's miracle itself.You should thank Azki, Lamy and Korone for this.And don't provoke them, they have the right to criticize Cover and they are on thin ice right now.
>>110088517You're retarded and don't know anything.
>>110088412You're talking to people who want Hololive to fail. That's all there is to it.
>>110088631You don't watch Kanata.
>>110088519She's not being forced on the break though. She's taking it as she was suggested to by her doctor.Ao had to be forced as she did not agree with taking the break but had no choice but to comply.
>>110088762no one knows anythingits all speculative but i guess you can believe that 2 years in a row the latest jp gens had someone have a mental issue which forced management to throw them into a hiatus until they graduated. meanwhile you have other holos who have mental problems which keep coming into work fine until they burn out and graduate
>>110088262Based BMAF supporter.
>>110088842Everyone but you knows what's wrong with Niko. You're a clipchimp who doesn't watch any streams and just theorycraft what's going to happen with each vtuber group.
>>110088817>She's taking it as she was suggested to by her doctor.Citation needed.
>>110088914Watch the stream.
to be fair, riona is definitely built
>>110088954NTA, but that summary was provided by her.
>>110087628Dunno why you pick them anon. Niko can at least sing.
>>110089004Yeah and it still leaves out details.
>>110089003for it
>>110088453>>110088703I want to watch this anon creampie Kanata and cheer her up with lewd activities
STOP GETTING CATS
It's not normal to mourn for more than a week or two.
>>110088842Almost every single JP gens has had someone with mental issues to some extents (sometimes multiple members). It's more that Cover now demands them to visit hospital and take a break if recommended instead of leaving it to their own decisions like beforeMental issue isn't something new. "Forcing management to throw them into a hiatus" is but is it so bad? It's not like every mental breaks have turned into graduation - if anything, it's the other way around, there is only a total 1 (one) sample. Even Haachama might be coming back
>>110089114
>>110088703> they just pile more work to her they really want her soul death.As if Kanata didn't say that they suggested her to reduce the workload but she didn't want to
>>110088842>forced management to throw them into a hiatus until they graduatedHow is that happening right now when the hiatus is known to last for exactly one month, and she's not being forced?
>>110086174The curse of 4 struck again. When will they ever learn that a stable group is 4 members?
>>110089243Did she specify the duration?
>>110089114Cats has calming effect. Without cats I bet there would be more menhera cases in hololive, not less
>>110089036mhmm with those curves...
>>110086174Damn, that cat must've been there for her through some major times in her life. Sadly I don't see this ending well. Flow Glow will be a 4 person group within the year.
>>110087628>First it was Raora's back to back breaksAt least with Raora we knew it was her throat and visa issues. Niko we know it's a mental issue, Holos don't have a good track record returning from those.
>>110089327no hes just a cover bootlicker who wants to defend management using the grey area of discussing a jp talent on an english board to push facts no one can confirm while not providing any timestamps or evidence himself.dont worry hell call you a climpchimp or some shit but still not provide a timestamp
>>110087860>get excited for next acrylic standLike my twitter posts you bitch then I'll buy your worthless ass plastic PNGs.
>>110089186nta but both are to blame. Cover did approach her to get her to reduce her workload so she's at fault for ignoring their suggestion but she wouldn't have had to overwork herself had cover not undergone policy changes that cut resources and funding to talents. Cover is motivated to recover the cost of the large studio they bought and to keep investors happy. Kanata was motivated to keep her promise to fans knowing her time was always limited due to her declining condition
>>110088199What is Niko even dealing with? Her cat died months ago, sure it sucks and it is sad I admit but how long does she need to take to pick herself back up? It's a cat not her mom. It's like she never had to deal with death before.
>>110089595dealing with working for cover
>>110089490But you are a clipchimp. You claim literally nobody knows anything and that it's a complete mystery why she's going on a break.
>>110089595Watch the stream. It's still about the cat no matter how much the cumcuck wants to tell you it's not.
>>110089595people arent ready for the rrat yet but its because shes been in dorito for over a year and hasnt reached the same level of popularity as her rm. this is a person who was recording shorts in her hallway getting 1 million views easy and now shes stuck going through covers bullshit.i said it here >>110088517 and ill say it again. she probably wants out and management decided the mental illness story is a good way to ride out her contract in a mutually beneficial way for both of them.>>110089680thats a lot of words to not post a timestamp of her saying one month lil nigga
>>110089730You're completely right. She completely made up the story about her cat dying. She doesn't even own cats.
>>110089730She is definitely making way more than her rm did, though. Shorts and Tiktok pay very little relatively compared to normal streams / VODs
>>110088247add>Suu reaches 1 million subs>Riona finally reaches 600k>Chihaya collabs with guys again>Vivi is pregnant with Pekora's child.
>>110089864She definitely isn't becuase cover doesn't pay the talents.
>>110086174>Get Cat>Occassionally cute>Have to feed and clean poop and fur>Get scratched furniture >Get sad when deadSounds like a lose-lose deal.
>>110086174Damn, she was one of my favs in DEV_IS. Hopefully she makes a full recovery. In the meantime, I will jerk off to her boobs (it's what she would have wanted)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vddr1pa1fmY
>>110089046Heimin have Kanashiko as their culture.
>>110089812this is completely unrelated to the cat. i dont doubt she is sad about her cat, but i am wondering if shes also bothered by dorito not being what she imaginedim having a schizo melty thinking about the possibilities because im worried this is more than just a simple break and i dont want her to leave. cover is incredibly retarded and ive never heard any talent praise management, at best they put up with things. i have no clue how she might feel about ditching her popular rm account to come here and be "the funny lady of the latest gen">>110089864she had those too it wasnt just shorts. obviously i cant link it here.
>>110089147Haachama has come back but never lasted long. Cover should be recruiting talents who were in CoD lobbies because new generations can't deal with any heat
>>110087860kek
>>110090190The cat dying is literally the cause of her "adjustment disorder", retard. She made the story up to pretend she's having mental issues so that she can go back to her RM.
>>110089730>hasnt reached the same level of popularityBecause she stopped fucking streaming which allowed Suu to bypass her. Niko was in the lead to reach 600k first before her cat died.
>>110089541>>110089186Watch her mem stream anon... they gave her to choices first cut her sololive and the second album out or second she must do everything and she chose second option. The worst is cut and less company project or let taso hire private manager are out of option to Kanata.Holowitch are curse project. We lost 3 Hololive talents because of this
It's bizarre that people don't understand Cover's hands are tied on this one because adjustment disorder is a fake illness with no cure. Therefore the talent can never be "cured" and Cover can never allow them back. The fact that they want to get diagnosed with this in the first place shows their intent to quit with an angle they think makes them look sympathetic.
>>110086174what kind of sheltered, pathetic losers are these girls? OH NO MUH CAT, HOW WILL I GO ON? Like for real? I've had pets die over the years, your'e sad but oh well, back to work. It's a fucking cat.
>>110090400I know we guys like to call girls "baby" as an overly affectionate way of saying babe but pacifiers are a no go for me.
>>110090467Kind of how I'm looking at it, but I'll wait and see if she returns or actually bails. I never even heard of this shit until Ao and now it comes up again, one year later, over a cat. And as the other retard pointed out, she does have a fall back option if she ditches holo.
Everyone knows this mean they are planning to graduate her why go through the song and dance instead of just getting it over with?
>>110090467Just get a quack to diagnose you with some disorder and suddenly you can do anything.
>>110090833This happens in every first world society to get on benefits but expect to get dropped if you don't work since you're a liability.
>>110086174Hololive only grows weaker >:3
>>110086174This is a reminder that you need to cook your fish before eating it
>>110091044They are dying in 2 more weeks >:3
>>110088914Since she said that a doctor who has been treating her since childhood recommended that she get a diagnosis, it makes me feel like there might have been some mild signs or early symptoms similar to an adjustment disorder for quite a long time.That said, one thing that kind of comes to mind as a common point between Haachama, Ao, and Niko is how unusually high-energy they often were, especially during streams. (Haachama did become much quieter toward the end when her mental state seemed to collapse, though.)I don’t know if it was conscious or not, but it even makes me wonder if they might have been pushing themselves to act overly high-energy while continuing their activities.
>>110090190>i dont want her to leaveYes you do. You're making up a bunch of shit about how she has already decided to leave because her RM is more popular.
>>110093094i can speculate what might be going on while not wanting it to come true unfortunately this board is buck broken that anything short of sugar coated positivity is considered anti speak
>>110093356You definitely want it when you're making up lies about her. This pretense isn't landing
>>110086225>>110086426>>110088247>>110089429>Not in any Marine's circle or unitDon't worry, she'll be back
>>110093571There's no such thing as "Marine's circle"
>>110093507ive literally admitted its speculation, im not pushing it as truth you illiterate retard. its made up. its a hypothesis, its not the truth. how many more ways do you need it said. stop bumping this fucking thread if you care so much about making this board a hugbox. if you consider this anti shit then stop pushing it up.
>>110093571>Marine's CircleAlready completely burnt down thanks to the greatest Corporate Spy of all time.
>>110086174My poor autist
>>110093622Doesn't matter. You are insinuating that she wants to leave yet somehow you don't want her to leave.
>it's just a catI love my cat so I understand how she feels. I would save my cat over an entire bus full of people if I had to, people saying it's just a cat are subhuman browns that don't understand the bond formed with your pet who may as well be your family
>>110093983toxoplasmosis post
>>110086174>even Hyde got the script>only 2 mems actually have souls
>>110093855>yet somehowthis is a you problem.as in you lack critical thinking
>>110090015>cover doesn't pay their talentsLmao, they literally announce how much they spend on talent remuneration in every single quarterly financial report, you dumb nigger.
I have sympathy for people who lose their pets, but it's been soon 3 months since it happened and at some point you just need to get over it. Is her condition something else too? Dunno, probably.But most jobs don't let people to just take 3 months off because you are feeling sad or unmotivated.
at this point, adjustment disorder is just japanese seasonal depression
>>110087075>>110087229>Niko initially wanted to push through until Hololive's 7th Space Expo stage, especially since festival ticket sales had started and her fans were planning to attend.>She had asked management to reduce her workload, including recording and other jobs, so she could continue working and complete the major milestone of the festival, which was a dream for her.>She expressed deep regret and apology for making this announcement right after the "maximally fun" festival, potentially causing a negative feeling for her fans, colleagues, and staff.>Niko reiterated her apology for the timing of this announcement, especially after the festival, and for causing significant worry and inconvenience to everyone who was looking forward to her future activities, her colleagues, and staff.>Niko addressed potential concerns about her employment status, stating that while a diagnosis like adjustment disorder might typically lead to mandatory leave, she explicitly asked to be allowed to participate in activities like recordings and personal projects until the festival. Management accommodated her wishes, reducing her workload but allowing her to perform.
>>110094080You're calling her a bitch who secretly wants to quit over numbers so it's very hard to believe you like her and want her to stay.
>>110095018It is, by definition, an actual lack of copium
It's a cat.
>>110094012What are they supposed to do? She doesn't interact with most of these people and the ones she does can just contact her personally. Do you think Flow Glow uses Twitter to talk to her?
Women and not having made up problems that prevent them from working: Impossible
>>110095023AIEEEEEE MY RRATS
>>110086174She won't be going anywhere. She doesn't want to leave Lui.
>>110086174I can confirm, I was the cat
Graduation incoming YIPPEE
>>110086174Damn, Niko is my favourite DEV_IS member, and I thought they were going to do another DS coop stream with Chiha.I hope she recovers quickly and well.
>>110093983lol retard
Why are devis girls so mentally ill?
Eh, she was better and more succesfull as flesh streamer.Niko is the big let down of her gen, not for being worse but she was the big talented content creator ace, i had really big expetations.No cue why she's joined holo.
>>110086235There is no way to "cure" adjustment disorder, only way to deal with it is dropping the main thing (or multiple) that caused the stress, Ao wanted to come back, said so multiple times and in the end because the doctor didn't give her the okay, she had to be let go. Niko's situation is looking pretty much identical.
>>110086174>She's recovering from the death of her cat.there is no way this is the reason, it has to be a parent or her child
>>110097773>the doctor didn't give her the okayWe don't know that. The reason for her graduation was never stated.>Niko's situation is looking pretty much identical.For Niko the cause of maladjustment isn't her work environment so it's not the same even in the slightest.
>>110098048>For Niko the cause of maladjustment isn't her work environment so it's not the same even in the slightest.>>110095023
this is actually sad ( She was a best one from the last few gens
>>110098260She's asking for less for because she's unable to work at full capacity. The reason for her disorder isn't work.
>>110098377Anon, watch the stream or just read anon's tldr, it's pretty clear that the cause is work, she didn't even mention the cat there.
>>110098439>she didn't even mention the cat there.Why lie?
>>110099004She didn't mention the cat in the sense that she is taking a break because of it. She feeling guilty about not paying attention to the cat (and then it dying) was a symptom of her being overworked, at least that's my take from what she said.
>>110097773>>110086174her behavior in the lead-up to this wasn't the same as Ao's.
>>110099211This board is still in denial about Ao because of what it says about Marine.
>>110099245Nah, most Ichimi have already Oshihen'd (Including JPs).
>>110099405I know but the general hololive "fanbase" still acts like there's nothing between Ao and Marine and even if there is it hasn't affected Marine in any way.
>>110099528there isn't.
>>110099692Then why's Ao still living with Marine? The excuse before was "her place is closer to the studio" but even back then Ao wasn't even going to the studio.
>>110099760>Then why's Ao still living with Marine?They don't
>>110086174First point, streaming is fucking easy and for some reason these bitches will do everything they can to avoid streaming.Second point, """adjustment disorder"""" to me seems like it is quickly becoming a blanket diagnosis for people who have issues but cant really be diagnosedThird point, fes and expo is a mistake
>>110095057I never called her a bitch. You have problems of separating my logical review of a situation, which is perhaps she wants to return to her rm which, maybe, had a better effort to reward ratio than holo. And my emotional view of the situation which is I really like her, her design, her content and would rather she stayed. She's not a bitch for potentially wanting to leave in my hypothesis. I'm not some vtuber tribalist who thinks people should be forced to vtube if they feel it's not something worthwhile to them. Either way at this point I really enjoy her and will be supporting her whatever she chooses as long as she's on the internet where I can interact with her. I just highly doubt she got bodied so hard over a cat. But again, I'm spitballing a guess, maybe she did truly take a hard hit over her cat and she'll be back in a month or so. I'm just skeptical because this disease is some quack shit which feels more like a way bout.
>>110102111You are calling her a bitch and a liar.
>>110086174I thought japs were hard workers? looks like they're not immune to acting like western people when they land a comfy high-paying job too. "My toe hurts weeeeh I'm gonna take 1 month off". The average person has to go back to work like 3 days after their parents die and these girls are talking about some fucking cat dying. I'm not gonna apologize for saying that, they earn FAR more money than they should, at the very least try to tank some bad shit happening to you like everyone else on the planet does. You get paid to be a woman and exist in hololive, come the fuck on now.
>>110086174Why can't women just play videogames and shut up?
>>110086174I wish her a speedy recovery.That said, what the fuck is adjustment disorder and why does it feel like made up garbage from doctors who just want a lifelong patient to twiddling their thumbs and looking good on paper so they don't lose their license and get government gibs
>>110101002Niko was already a youtuber with over 1mi subs, shut the fuck up man
>>110102597I'm sorry the public school system failed you. You can only absorb information by trying to compress everything down into singlular terms like bitch. Even then you fail and end up misunderstanding. Truly a shame.>>110103081From what I've read it's something like ptsd and depression. >>110101002I 100% back the other anon. She was already successful on her own merits. She's nothing like most of the rabble who come through this space trying to get lucky. On top of that she was actually a content creator, emphasis on creator, and not just some bum who reacts to other people's work or boots up Minecraft for the 100th time.
>>110103852So you don't deny calling her a liar? Interesting.
>>110086174"disorder"it's called stress when shit happens, you get over it like everyone else. why tf do they make a big deal out of literal made up non-issues?
>>110103852>On top of that she was actually a content creator, emphasis on creatorShe always aimed to be a performer. Her ability to know how to ride the youtube algorithm is just secondary to her primary aim.
>>110103081>what the fuck is adjustment disorderIt's just a placeholder diagnosis so people can receive psychiatric treatment without fulfilling all the criteria for stuff like PTSD, Bipolar, etc. It's a very short-term thing, typically six months or less after which treatment ends or a more specific diagnosis is made.
for the anons that don't understand what adjustment disorder is, imagine if 4chan went down forever, and you compulsively click the tab every 5 minutes expecting it to be there, because it has always been there, and when it's not there you are stressed, and there's nowhere else on the internet to shitpost like you usually do every day
>>110088247Weird how there was never an a adjustment problem until Cover went completely corporate and had to account for shareholder greed.
>>110106073So she just has to buy another cat
>>110106485You’re talking about the company whose talents routinely flamed out, melted down live on stream, and needed month long breaks and talked live on stream about how they encourage others to take breaks to avoid the same thing which you would know if you weren’t a new fag. Chears!
>>110099405To who? Are there any good replacements?
>>110086174lazy
>>110104105I would deny calling her a liar, but that's because it comes down to semantics. By my assumption how you probably define "liar", yes I am calling her a liar. That's the tldr.However I don't see the word liar in that way, because "liar" holds a very hard negative connotation which isn't always warranted. Everyone lies at one point in their life, so everyone is a liar, thus a strict "if you lie, you're a liar" definition is useless. Rather I look for a pattern and motive. If they're lying for self benefit and have a pattern of lying then I would call them a liar. But if they're someone who occasionally white lies, in the benefit of others then I wouldn't call them a liar as it's too harsh. If she's doing this because she wants to soften the blow for her fans, that's fine.
>>110086174why is it always the ones who get close to Lui?
>>110108292Way to justify yourself to call her a liar.
>>110088262>18hah can't say 13
>>110087075Retard
>>110109003Thank you. Some would say I'm a modern day Socrates. Just fatter and balder. Did you want to talk about anything else?
Who tf genuinely cares about any Dev_Is not named Vivi
>>110108207It's only lazy if she doesn't come back. You have to give her a chance to do that on her own.
>>110110226I do. (Raden, too.)
>>110110226>>110114062Jimmy who is the sex symbol of Dev_Is.Kanade who desparately needs correction.
>>110107701Korone / Subaru / Pekora / Miko, the ol' reliables.
>>110108207>>110112687she already has a resume proving she isnt lazyits cover that's lazythey should promote her more. she has the best singing frames but hardly gets views its a fucking shame. if youre a fan of hololive and never got around to checking out niko nor had her thrown in your face by cover then its a travesty for realcheck her out
>>110110226Chihaya is cool
>>110089302Justice
>>110108861I love her dumb happy face everytime this gets posted
>>110110226I do, I love riri!!!
>>110121443My nigga.
Adjustment disorder just sounds like a nip-specific woman's disease like ibs or fibromyalgia
Women are weak. Joos forced them to be part of the workforce and they're not suitable for most work if at all.
>>110086174>recovering from the death of her cat.At this point I just assume she gave birth and the cat dying is a made up excuse.
She's so fucking bland, nothing of value was lost
>being sad your cat died is a disorderwhat? They just make up some shit because she's struggling with her workload. Nothing wrong with taking a break, but it is pretty sad they have to lie because vtuber fans are just dumb
>>110086174Get well soon
The gen that killed hololive EN5 will finish the job if they really hired the rumored people
Is there a single redeemable Tiger vtuber?
>>110099245>>110099528>>110099760Marine's decline started way before Ao joined the company.
I've never heard of adjustment disorder before Ao and now there's a second one?
>>110127644Apparently she bought a new cat but was so busy she couldn't give it enough attention and it died. Who knows what that means guessing the cat got sick with one of those weird cat illnesses that you need to pay attention or you miss it. The cat got sick and died and then she tried to work through instead of taking time off.
>>110133180I never heard of BPD before vtubing so yeah.
>>110133466Literally how? Every other woman has it, if you've ever seen a guy's life be completely ruined by his menhera whore gf she's 100% a BPDemon.
>>110106073Isn't this the thing where a womans child dies and they begin treating a doll like it is their dead child?
>>110133505no that's post-mortem infantile psychosis