>>110122076
He chose to upload this on BTB's 1-year anniversary, too... what a scumbag

>>110122076
>replaced by seductive men
The fuck did he even mean by this?

>>110122076
Fucking asshole, he makes Hololive and Phase fans look bad

>>110122076
He says that Rosemi was "replaced" when he and everyone else on /here/ were begging for her to go indie, but now he grays her and Mint out, like they never meant anything. He should graduate, like False

>>110122225
When was Mint's reason for graduating being replaced by guys, I don't remember that?

>>110122076
I hate Anycolor as much as the next guy, but this is just disgusting. Leave the girl be.

>>110122076
Lmao, she's scum. She's trash. Ask me how I know? She's nijien. It's that simple.
I'd like to remind everyone that rose still hasn't been acknowledged by doki or mint. Know why? Because she's nijien trash too.
Wake up, sisters.
You lost.

>>110122225
Nobody cares about da wose and da leech

>>110122076
This is the most attention she has received in years. Its free PR.

>OP replied to his own thread 7 times

>>110122334
You act as if Doki and Mint were never in NijiEN, and I haven't checked if Doki is, but Mint is following Miki on X. Miki seems like she is getting settled and becoming comfortable with streaming again, and so what if they don't collab, who knows if Miki was even friends with either of them?

>>110122380
I didn't, actually

>>110122334
>she's scum
Hololive has done some bad things, too, does that make all of their talents scum? No

>>110122355
Fuck off, you obviously don't know her personality or streams. She would never want to be called "the only good one"

>>110122076
Parrot is a retard and all he can is stoop low
Culture vulture

>>110122076
It's one thing to make videos when the livers themselves are voicing their issues/disagreements with management, but this ain't it. Scarle is perfectly happy where she is, with her manager, with her wavemates. Parrot is trying to force her into a position she doesn't want to be in. Absolutely abhorrent behavior.

>>110122334
Both of those stayed in NijiEN until Luxiem's popularity died off and they couldn't coast off it anymore. It was NijiEN on easy mode and they still couldn't grow.

>>110122076
I don’t see how calling her ”the last good NijiEN” is in any way controversial.
She literally is the last one there who’s not a bitchy flaming dumpsterfire of a person and makes worthwhile content.

>parrot
Irrelevant and off topic.

>>110122076
The only good niji is a dead niji

>>110122076
No one watches her except her oil baron which makes me feel like a peasant if I stay in her livechat

which niji liver made this thread?

>>110122623
Huh, why is it that the vtubers at Nijisanji are still among the most entertaining and talented in the EN sphere then? The reason Parrot keeps reinforcing hatred towards them is because there are a lot of dedicated fans that still love the streamers, maybe not the company, but the streamers are still beloved by many

>>110122076
Skimmed thrugh the video and this parrot dude just seems to be reading posts from the board and other peoples thoughts
What am I missing? (This being me not having watched the whole thing)

>>110122884
Holy delusion. "Dedicated fans" yet their viewership continues to spiral downwards. Luxiem are all 3views now. Other livers are dropping into 2view territory.

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>>110122935
Also, inserting his own commentary and opinions

>>110122825
I am not a vtuber, but I have been a fan since Lazulight first debuted

>>110122990
Oh okay. I think they did that a bit at the end so I'm guessing they do that more in the video (aside from those random reaction clips)
I mean I don't see how this video is worth caring about since it's just a ""meme"" comp"

>>110122944
Every corpo's numbers have dropped significantly, and HoloEN's superchat earnings are not that different from NijiEN's. The golden age of EN vtubing is over, and everyone is just doing their best

>>110123021
The context of the video is unfair to Scarle, by singling her out, to mock her company

I miss desertorium

>>110123030
No HoloEN has dropped as hard as Luxiem has, from 5views to 3views.

>>110122076
>Leave the poor girl alone
>posts a catalog bait thread about her
kys

>>110123037
It's a bad faith video, it props her up as the best of NijiEN, but then slut shames her while using memes if the Hololive girls. It is obviously meant to prop Hololive up, at the expense of degrading Scarle and NijiEN

>>110123037
I mean I guess that's fair. It doesn't seem mean-spirited towards her at least. But I can see how someone probably wouldn't like their image to be "used" in that way
Granted I probably don't know as much since I just took a look at their other thumbnails and it seems like they just cover "drama" surrounding Niji or whatever else via memes but again, fair enough
I don't really wanna watch all their stuff so you probably know more than I do. Don't think it needed a thread but I feel that way about a lot of threads

>>110123085
Would you rather no one talk about how messed up it is? 70k+ people are watching that disgusting clickbait video, that is a public humiliation ritual, but people aren't allowed to defend someone they really like?

>>110123094
>>110123095
Weird how you don't want people to call it out, when it is harmful to the streamers at NijiEN, do you have no conscience or something?

>>110123138
Dude fucking relax. Stop characterizing my intentions and reread the posts. That's not what I said
I said a skimmed through it and gave the person I was talking to the benefit of the doubt. Learn to read. It makes whatever "side" you're on look ridiculous. I have no stake in this, I was just inquiring sheesh

>>110123177
Of course I'm on Scarle's side, I'm her fan

>>110123177
If you don't see the video as propagandistic and degrading towards her, then maybe you should watch it. I get if people hate Nijisanji or Anycolor, but treating the streamers that way is wrong

>>110123030
superchats were always such a cope metric
>my vtuber has better cash whales than your vtuber!
ok lmao

>>110123247
The point was that vtuber earnings are at an all-time low for everyone, genius

>>110123259
and my point was that superchats aren't a good indicator of earnings since all they show is how dedicated some mental patients can be
are you going to tell me that ame's earnings were low just because her SC numbers were low? the same ame that bought properties in LA?

>>110123085
>>110123095
>don't call out the guy who bullies streamers regularly
ogey

>>110123192
Well good. Then just don't readily assume negative intent in what I was saying
You run the risk of making yourself look like you lack credibility
>>110123308
Again you too. Not what I said dumbass. Learn to read
>>110123214
Again, I said I skimmed through the video, I didn't see the entire thing. I am not saying you are incorrect
Skimmed through a bit more and it just seemed like other posts, lusting over Scarle which I guess counts, and kinda shitting on what's left of NijiEN (mostly the new male gens designs) mainly people's post, and talking about some YAB guy's misconduct
Maybe I'm too "I don't autmatically believe what I see on the internet"-brained but maybe I should probably watch the whole thing in it's entirety but I'm not getting brainwashed by this but I guess I can kinda see where you're coming from

>>110122076
Funny how the same people who claim to care about Doki, support a video bullying Scarle, when she is just happy doing her own thing. Ironic

>>110123351
>It makes whatever "side" you're on look ridiculous.
And I said that I am on Scarle's side, which is why I am against this video that degrades her

>>110123308
>Leave the poor girl alone
>posts a catalog bait thread about her
>kys
>>110123095
>Don't think it needed a thread but I feel that way about a lot of threads
It sure seems like you didn't want someone adverse to it

I just wanted to see what kind of model she'd use as an indie.

>>110123094
I just don’t get why the outrage now? He has been making these videos for years and no one minded when he was targeting elira, vox, enna, reimu, etc.
But now he does a couple on Rosemi and Scarlet and about why they are still there and taking their time when more sensible colleagues jumped ship and suddenly the board hates him?

>>110123415
You will see if she ever makes that decision, but it is up to her how long she wants to stay.

>>110123386
You replied to the wrong post but yeah, again good. There was proabably more in there that I didn't see
Most of the Scarle portion I saw was just gassing her up numbers wise and doing the typical vtuber lusting thing
>>110123408
>It sure seems like you didn't want someone adverse to it
I couldn't have not wanted someone to not talk about a video I didn't even know existed before I even saw there was a thread about
Get your head out of your own ass. I'm not even disagreeing with whatever your conclusion is but when this is the level of comprehension you display, it makes you look desperate
Again. Not disagreeing with whatever you think. I only said what I happened to take a way from a quick skimming of the video (not the whole thing) since I was interested

>>110123431
Maybe if it wasn't obviously laced with ulterior motives and making fun of her half the video.

>>110123446
Then why are you putting up such a fight and saying I should have never posted it on the catalog if you don't care?

>>110123214
Fuck then streamers, that whole branch is rotten whether complicit or not. After all Matara, Mint and Dokibird had to deal with I am in no forgiving mood at all. I doubt Scarle took part in any of the smearing but by staying and giving the branch some sense of legitimacy she has made herself open to a target on her back, albeit a smaller one than the likes Elira and Enna have

>>110122076
People on r/kurosanji even think that the video sucks

>>110123482
The company sucks, so she deserves to get bullied for something that she didn't do and had no hand in? Ok...

There is high chance parrot himself is here defending himself

>>110123479
Dude it's really not that hard
>Then why are you putting up such a fight
It's not a "fight" when I'm responding to the way you egregiously misinterpeted what I said
>and saying I should have never posted it on the catalog
Not what I said. I said I skimmed through the video and asked what I was missing as to what the big deal was specifically
>if you don't care?
I learned about this from this thread and was just curious enough to bother giving a minimal look into it. That's it

>>110123449
Have you never watched any of his videos? He is very upfront about his disdain for NijiEN and his desire to see the branch entirely destroyed. This isn’t new, he just got around to finally using Scarle

>>110123499
Yep because by staying g she gives it legitimacy just like Rosemi.

>>110123520
>>110123509

>>110123085
Parrot is the one that made this thread, retard

>>110122076
>last paragraph of parrot's video essay
>"why scarle doesn't leave nijisanji makes no sense to me. but her almost never interacting with any other nijis and somehow being the most successful in the branch is very telling. nijisanji en is just a fujo pandering branch now. and i just hope there aren't any more twistys who are detached enough from reality to attempt to join what is clearly a system that is designed just to profit off of lonely chinese women. only a desperate enough male aspiring to make make minimum wage at best should ever consider it. it's not even a joke anymore that joining phase connect is just better."
reeks of desperation

>>110123540
>I don't see what the big deal is since I don't watch their content but you guys are probably right or have some basis at the very least
>STOP DEFENDING HIM (oh no, not you other posts slandering Scarle and other Nijis)
Critical thinking at it's finest

>>110122145
>>110123094
>Parrot
>Hololive fan
The guy fucking caused people to attack kronii and bae for being "Corpo bootlickers" with his Nimi video by amplifying her "disagreements with management" bullshit which we now know was her being buttblasted because they fired the guy who is dicking her down for not doing the job he signed up for. He also spun a narrative that wasn't true by showing all sorts of retarded rrats about Nimi and cover from this shithole.
He also had a fucking melty on twitter during the Clara announcement and was white knighting phase.
He's a fucking phasefaggot through and through.

>>110123543
He wasn't tho, nice lie
ig, a positive is that Parrot has vetted out all of the most horrid fans and sent them to Phase and holo

>>110123563
>I don't watch his videos
>Yet I obsessively defend him
Hmmm, very sus

>>110123585
>Asks what's going on
>STOP DEFENDING HIM (oh no, not you other posts slandering Scarle and other Nijis)
KEK

>>110123571
He sure uses their likenesses to bully others though, doesn't he? And 90% of his rts on X are about holo

He'll make this, anything but talk about Phase's Yabs.

>>110123594
>says kys and to not post the thread
>then postures as an aloof guy that doesn't care
You're incriminating yourself with the stupidity of your logic

>>110123611
>Literally lies
>No, I'm not delusional
Wow the projection is rea

>>110123611
>>110123585
are you fucking retarded?

>>110123408
>>110123615
Proof is in the thread, my man

>>110122935
*Reading posts that were made by his discord that constantly raids this place

>>110123623
Not my fucking post idiot

>>110122076
Parrot bitched about a video where he bullied someone getting taken down too, the audacity

>There is high chance parrot himself is here defending himself

>>110123635
Kind of unbelievable after you asked me why I had to make a catalog thread about it two posts after that one

>>110123645
Not what I fucking said jackass. Unless you're a "everybody is the same person" schizo

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>>110122076
Even kurosanji is clowning on him... lol

>>110123663
What damage does it do to call out someone who is causing harm to other people? Why ask me why I had to make a catalog thread about it? Even if it wasn't you

>>110123639
>>110123663

>>110122076
nousagi rape victim

>>110123697
I never said not to "call out someone who is causing harm to other people"
I never directly questioned you or disagreed with the thread being a thing in the first place
All I said was that I skimmed the video and asked what information I was missing about it. That's it.
I didn't defend the parrot bastard or whatever. I only said what I saw and said everyone who had a problem with it probably knew more than I did because they actually saw the video
>>110123704
Dumbass

>>110122076
this is low... fuck parrot

>>110122145
Tbh parrot is phase exclusive. It's just he like to pits holo and niji against each other because phase is unironically 0.6%

>>110122099
Parrot is a shit but the fuck is a BTB

Also why did parrot put Mint there as if she was ever in Niji alongside 4 Nijis?

>>110122475
Congratulations you feel for the phase nigger psyop. Wake tf up

>>110122962
Oh damn gunrun is that you?

>>110123677
Tbh I don't like nijien or it's stupid tranny fan base but going for niji even after phase having so much controversy is just bad taste. He could have covered the whole phase jelly or clara shit but bro said you know what scarle.
Half of the people don't even know who she is because she doesn't even Collab with most of nijis and stays in her own bubble which is good considering how organs are crashing out these days

>>110123943
Apparently nijinigs think btb their new released niji Organs are doing well. Meanwhile almost all of them are sub 3views with very little fan following

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>>110122962
It's really weird. I've noticed that Henya in particular has a lot of overlap with seemingly unrelated fanbases. Like sometimes I can just go into random fleshstreamer chats and see Henya emotes.

>>110123992
>tranny fanbase
how bout shiori and erb though?

>>110124000
By The Beat is doing pretty well, even with the concerted effort by dramafags to take them down

>>110124095
well I haven't heard of any yabs from them at least, so that's some improvement.

>>110124064
A lot of bottom feeders seem to have latched onto her because of the whole HL drama, and usually that kind of person gets bored and leaves, but apparently Henya's have stuck to her like leeches. I guess it makes sense, she is so inoffensive that it's impossible for her to do something that would shake them off.

>>110122076
I've never watched one of this paparazzo's videos, and I never will

>>110124482
Same, everything I know about him I know against my will.

>>110123556
>it's not even a joke anymore that joining phase connect is just better
>shows cute pictures of fwmc
Parrot is clearly pro-Hololive, makes you wonder why he and Nousagi are so pro-propaganda with them, it's almost as if they're getting incentivised to do that

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>>110124808
>Parrot is totally pro-Phase, not shilling Hololive at all
kekaroo

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>>110122076
>everyone is bad but this one person I like trust me
>my proof are rrats and things other places also do but I ignore
I hate Parrot.

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>>110124871

>>110124877
Me, too
Only teenage tourists buy his shit

>>110123992
This. Even if you hate Niji EN vtubers for the wrongs or yabs committed during Selengate there has been so many wrongs or yabs committed since then. From memory: the model drama, and award yab with Filian; the Sinder drama; the events of Off Kai 2024; Vshojo with their auditions before they fell; the Mythos drama, the Jelly drama, the Holo girls being low keyed being worked to bad health; the effect of merch tariffs; Ironmouse and the awards drama, etc.

That Parrots ignores so much stuff is hypocritical if he moral grandstands all the time about the Niji stuff.

>>110123489
That's the biggest hugbox of Niji EN there is. It has been for years. nijishitters started congregating there and started mass downvoting every negative opiunion while writing their woke ones. Not hard to distinguish them at all. Ever since Ike quit Niji, the reddit has been co-opted by damage controlling Nijisisters. It's no different than discord and their brown mods.

>>110125234
>Even if you hate Niji EN vtubers for the wrongs or yabs committed during Selengate

I hate Niji EN for
1 "Fans" and Managers Bullying talents for eating Mcdonalds
2 Niji talents not able to get Youtube plaques for the effort they put into streaming
3 Vox visibly being favored my management (getting access to Selen's medical record) and never answering for what transpired
4 Vox extending hand to China and praising China
5 Pomu visibly hating her time in Niji after Selen's drama, in the end throwing a present into Luca's face when he stalked her irl
6 Matara kan complaing many times about how management was tyrannical didn't allow questions and castigated the talents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byotI0_VBu0
7 Allowing insiders like Ike's girlfriend into Nijisanji EN work discord to read it and bully Reimu
8 Nijisanji management lying & refusing to take side in Aster / Delulu Deliria feud for a year
9 Ike being ostracized and alienated by everybody
10 Millie not answering for the proven ways she hated Ike
11 Neglect of Indonesia branch resulting in promising talents like Mika being forced to quit

>>110122076
If she doesn't like it, leaving is always an option

>>110125234
He has been quite clear about his bias, Niji came after him and the others didn’t. If you are looking for a fair and balanced arbiter he ain’t that and in surprise led so many here think he is.

>>110124113
It's doing moderately well for a post-black screen group, because appealing to your core fanbase just works, no matter how rotten it is

>>110125234
>the events of Off Kai 2024
>the Mythos drama
>the Jelly drama
>the effect of merch tariffs
nobody cared about any of this. these things are like claiming a fender bender is massive car accident with deaths and totalled cars and explosions

>>110124857
>>110124871
>>110124881
You know I have a niji anti account that actively tweets out good things about niji while shitting on phase and to this day phase niggers call me out saying all nijifans are bad.
Some of you are born to fall for propoganda

>>110124095
>>110124113
NTA but nijien is supposed to rival holoen and none of those people have any amount of subs or mindshare as justice girls have so your argument is invalid

>>110126419
>nobody cared about any of this
People care more about all of those than they do about Scarle just existing in Niji, yet what did he decide to make a video on...?

>>110126656
>People care more about all of those than they do about Scarle just existing in Niji,
I assure you, they do not.
Jelly in the big picture is a complete nobody does she even have 100k subs? fucking Filian had no idea who Jelly is and she loves Phase
Mythos are nobodies
I dont even know what OffKai thing is
what kinda of loser would care about tarrifs on a multi million dollar company

Sisters pls...

>>110125594
Just address some as the post will be too long otherwise.
>1.
I agree but that is the problem with identity politics pushed into vtubing which has been happening a lot lately thanks to popular political vtubers like Kirsche and a vocal section of the Phase fanbase with the Jelly/Clara drama, this will keep happening everywhere if people don't stand against it
>2-4
The plaque withholding is fucked up but I suspected Niji is not the only place it happens. I don't like Vox but the bigger issue is the male favoritism, which would continue to impact things even if Vox left.
>5
From everything I saw in past vods and clips Pomu was one of the gang, integrated her there and was genuine liked by most. For a long time Pomu refused to comment on the Niji stuff before adding on the fan gifts being withheld. The thing about Pomu I've never figured out is that she ghosted most of the ex-Nijis even Miki but is always available for the Holo and ex-holo girls. The way her involvement with vshojo was handled with her strongly denying being a part of it while taking a lot services and advantages that were publicly known (ex: she was suppose to make money off the Summer podcast) to even Doki not knowing the extend of not-Pomu's involvement comes off as too opportunistic.
>6
Matara is nerfed by the NDAs too as you see how open Matara is with Vshojo with weaker NDAs. So you know there is more. While Matara hates Niji she has generally tried to help a lot of the ex-Nijis: Quinn, Kyo, Michi, Miki and Mint. She also doesn't like dramatubers even though their coverage of her is positive. And her old gen mates to seem to care about her more than people think.
>7
What throws me off is the night and day coverage with the Haachama statements around the same time which also expressed the same type of issues from a person who clearly upset. And Haachama is more reliable as she is presently employed there
>9
Kuro kept in contact with Ike after Kuro himself left and after Ike left. Doki had to of had a line to Ike somehow for the collab to happen. Guess: Matara is the best bridge from Kuro to Doki.

>>110127100
>The plaque withholding is fucked up but I suspected Niji is not the only place it happens
where else does it happen then? there are not many vtuber corpos that actually have produced talents that got playbuttons

>>110126687
Scarle has even lower ccv than Jelly. Nobody cares about Scarle.
Offkai gets bigger attendance than Scarle's streams.
Tarrifs affect paying customers, Scarle affects nobody.
And yet, he spent time making a video about a complete nobody who happily stays in her own secluded bubble.

>>110127194
>Scarle has even lower ccv than Jelly. Nobody cares about Scarle.
10x the people know who Scarle is compared to Jelly. Jelly has no mindshare in the industry.

>>110127216 (me)
this gives you a glimpse as to how well recognized a vtuber is in the overall en vtuber scene
https://www.sporcle.com/games/the_echo/name-that-vtuber/results

Jelly does not register that high. The fact remains more people know who Finana is than who Jelly is.

>>110127216
>>110127283
Knowing of somebody's existence does not mean they care about that somebody. The fact that Jelly gets higher viewership than Scarle means people care more about Jelly than they do Scarle.

>>110127194
nobody but twitter troons and tva cares about jelly, anon. dramatubers didn't cover her because they have little idea who she is

>>110127331
based on you logic, more people care about olivia monroe than jelly

>>110127331
The fact that Filian, a massive and unapologetic Phasefag, had no idea who Jelly was when she was presented a picture of her tells you just how not known she is.

>>110127150
Gura went vague when the whereabouts of her play button was asked saying staff received it and she didn't know where it was. Another playbutton is with her father (likely the first one). A lot of entertainment idol industries in Japan might have a similar culture where their talents accomplishments are their accomplishments so even fan gifts are taken. That is why I just say suspect for now.

>>110127393
i thought gura said she gave her playbuttons to her manager?
in general, it seems holo lets the talents keep their awards
phase connect lets the talents keep their awards
vshojo let the talents keep their awards
chroma/idol lets the talents keep their awards
kawaii let the talents keep their awards

best that we know, nijien is the only en agency that takes them from the talent

>>110127360
Olivia Monroe is botted. Everyone knows this. Thousands of viewers yet less than 100 people in chat.

>>110127455
Oh, what's this? Viewership isn't king anymore because more people watch Olivia Monroe, Crelly, KokoNuts, Cerber, ChaCha, Peo etc

>>110127216
shhhh phasekeks think people know who their vtubers are
reminds me of a time i saw a phase cosplayer on twitter at a con and there was a vtuber fan meet up, and she went dressed as leah but was the only phase cosplayer there in a sea of holo & niji cosplays and she tweeted "where are all the phase fans at it is just me :("

>>110127494
Legit viewership is king. Olivia's viewership is not legit, she's being botted. Jelly has legit viewership.

>parrot still handing them free pr
nice of him to keep niji irrelevant kek

>>110127540
>noooo this vtubers viewership isnt real!
>only my whore's viewership is real!
lmao
regardless, more people know who the smallest nijien is than know who you phasewhore is. jelly is a mid level phase talent based on mindshare

>spreads fake screenshots painting ryoma as a sexpest, laughs it off when called out
>uses thumbnail that sheds twisty and aster's sexual harassment incident in a humorous light
>other thumbnails joking about niji girls getting sexually harassed
>defends actual sexual harassment period tracker site
this guy could never stoop low because he was always in the gutter to begin with. like he's a genuinely abhorrent person who's probably on a list himself.

>>110127808
Kevin Spacey is a dirt bag but a helluva creative talent and actor, Partot videos make me laugh that is all I care about.

>>110128367
>Partot videos make me laugh that is all I care about.
my condolences.

>>110125594
>I hate Niji EN for [bunch of schizoid delusions]
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh wow I knew you dramatrannies were retarded but I didn't knew you were THAT retarded

>>110123992
Phasefag will never beat the cancer of vtubing allegation, worst than niji.

>>110128404
Don’t need your thoughts and prayers nijisis

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Sakana paid parrot to shitposts every other corpo/lig confirmed here

https://youtu.be/T2O2XGcX6pE?t=8798
>shit on everyone
>phase shitpost slipped pass the vetted
>instantly apologise to them and shit on finana to deflect
>alana laugh because she know he fucked up.
Kek

>>110123571
>>110123940
>>110124857
He used to be a phase fag but they gave him the boot when it turned out he really was just a grifter
Since then he became a holo orbiter
I think every fanbase should come together and agree he's shit

>>110122076
7 minutes for her and then 10 minutes simping for phase again. Nothing on the whole drama with Nyana, just hyping shit up.

>>110128815
>used to be a phase fag
He doesn't know

Scarle is low intelligence. She's been cajoled into staying because of begging branchmates probably imploring her "think about what it would do to us!" Possibly suggesting the branch will end if she chooses to leave.
In reality they're getting her to make an extremely self-destructive decision, that hurts her tremendously, giving up most of her income just so they can continue with their grift, and wage an imaginary war on the haters.

Niji offers Scarle nothing. She doesn't participate in collabs, or rely on events or 3D shows as a cornerstone of her popularity. To that effect, Nijisanji brings her absolutely nothing, she has no reason to be in Nijisanji. In fact the Nijisanji brand name is doing tremendous damage and limiting her reach. She's not just sacrificing 50% of her income, but much of her potential audience.

The 50% income split is ludicrous in itself. It's even dubious if that's justified for a high paid JP member. But for Scarle? It's completely ridiculous. The company isn't making 50% of her money for her, in terms of generating popularity and interest, and live shows. Instead, the company is actually hampering her.
To put it another way, in a vacuum, would she pay 50% of her income for a couple 2D outfits, which is what NijiEN provides her? Probably not, anyone paying that pricetag would be getting ripped off.

Scarle is surrounded by toxic people who care more about how her departure would affect themselves, than about her and her own career. The people urging her to leave actually care about her.

>>110129621
>Scarle is low intelligence
Ever watch her streams? Obviously not

>>110125778
>I am the good guy because I am bullying her so she leaves for her own good
Ogey, retard, you're totally the good guy and not some shitty asshole

>>110129621
Doesn't Scarle have a doctorate? She plays ditzy sometimes but she doesn't come off dumb to me.

>>110129621
>All these paragraphs seething at a random vtuber
You can just say you have no life and save us all a lot of time.

>>110129621
What does it matter to you if she leaves or not? Are you actually thinking about her, obviously not since you're not really her fan, or are you just trying to break the company apart for ulterior motives or more cheap drama content?

>>110130714
[continued] I think Scarle might have low self-esteem and I know she's concerned that the model and branding are part of her appeal. She might even be partially right, it's a really hot model and she's shameless with it. That wouldn't be fun if she wasn't a fun streamer though. Anyway, the upshot is that she has stability in Niji and it's sensible to be afraid of fucking up a good thing.

>>110130752
His brand has become "the Niji mines" so he has to fabricate drama, even when there is none! I have seen plenty of negative yabs against Phase or Hololive streamers on /here/ so he can't pretend that it is just him blindly reacting to /vt/ at this point, there clearly is a motive and narrative that he is pushing

>>110126687
>>110127360
>dramatubers didn't cover her because they have little idea who she is
this one bugs me
Size doesn't really matter for dramatubers and jelly's little yab got a few million views + forced Phase proper to make a statement.
It's free content for a dramatuber and is the perfect kind of drama to jump on. Just look at the non-vtuber dramatubers like asmongoloid that pounced on it.
What matters to them is the size of the drama as much as the actual players involved, and Jelly's was objectively big, especially for that slow news cycle.
>>110128650
This was such a fucking mask off moment, jesus

>>110129269
know what? everyone laughs at the fat ass in /pcg/

>>110130799
Why do you have to constantly put her down? Even the Parrot video is degrading to her... clearly she is a competent woman who is entertaining, smart, and funny, and she knows her value, as well as her boundaries and how big her social battery can last before running out. Scarle is a great streamer, yet you have to poke at her intelligence and self-esteem, why?

>>110129621
Ever think that they don't leave because they don't want fans like /you/?

>>110130919
I'm not trying to put her down. I like her handcams. She's got a great sense of fun. I think she's clever and she uses her model to its best advantage. She's so fun and likable that people end up watching her even though she's in Nijisanji. The obvious next thought for those viewers is
>Why doesn't she just go indie?
since she isn't visibly close to other organs and we know Nijisanji takes an unreasonable cut from their talents, doesn't give much back, and is full of lies scheming and betrayal.
However, realistically, the fact is that there aren't a lot of viewers to go around outside of hololive, she has a consistent pool of donors, and the exact combination that makes people stay is hard to quantify. Scarle's made it work for her and, no matter how much I like her, staying is pretty reasonable because there really is no guarantee that she'd find the same success with a rebrand. Hope she gets scouted for EN5.

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>>110129621
>Scarle is surrounded by toxic people who care more about how her departure would affect themselves, than about her and her own career. The people urging her to leave actually care about her.

Well at this point that's likely not true, or only half true. The people who like scarle watch scarle and she's a very easy person to point to as a victim due to her panicked actions during each niji yab, but it's not like she has a sizeable audience waiting for her exit. Really only Rosemi had that from the late graduates. (shown by her indie numbers being on par with late-stage rosemi)
Whenever Scarle leaves, her audience will probably move with her but at the same time it's a risk that she's probably scared of taking since they might not even if she gets a very similar or higher quality model.

>Niji offers Scarle nothing.
They offer her security if nothing else. It's easy to coast along as Scarle. Leaving is risky and there's no guarantee that she'll be able to even get the same whales if she graduates. Not to mention that Niji DOES provide shit like artists and riggers to work with and the staff doesn't seem too bad if you only work on one project or model each year.

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Nigga skipped Holo mass quitting and a lot of other Hololive shenanigans. He only attack Fauna now that she's Nimi. Same with Saba. He also made fun a lot of ex-corpos in general.
He's a holoniggers through and through. Though now you people said it, the lack of Phase material says a lot...

>>110131120
Every corpo takes a huge cut, including Hololive, do you think it is less worth it because of the scandals and bad press? Why single out the Nijisanji talents?

>>110131246
>Every corpo takes a huge cut, including Hololive
Nijisanji takes more
>do you think it is less worth it because of the scandals and bad press
Yes, I think that Nijisanji is less valuable to the talents because of their bad management, toxic environment, and poison brand
>Why single out the Nijisanji talents?
Nijisanji's fall from grace is an industry-wide spectacle

>>110130982
This is who you're responding to btw >>110131356

>>110131376
>Nijisanji's fall from grace is an industry-wide spectacle
This still doesn't explain why you are singling out talents and bullying them

>>110131376
>Nijisanji takes more
Proof?

>>110131424
>>110130982
>>110129621
Gaslighting seems to be the only tactic that Niji antis can use to cover up their shit behavior

>>110122076
>last good one
I remember retards saying the same about rosemi/miki and then it turned out she chosen elira's clique and had her, enna, millie, vox, luca and uki in her indie redebut lore video lmfao. There are no good ones left in niji, the good ones were only Pomu/Mint and Selen/Doki.

>>110132424
Why should Enna, Millie, Vox, Luca, and Uki be alienated? The only sort of proof that any of them were bullies is with Vox, bc Ike's ex-gf revealed it. Shouldn't Miki or Scarle be allowed to associate with who they want without being publicly shamed or witch-hunted?

>>110132528
>nijitard retardation
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>110132424
Ex-nijis could say who the real bullies really were, but they won't, bc they want the whole company and anyone involved with it to burn

>>110132595
At least Ike had the balls to come forward with Vox and Reimu being his bullies

>>110132595
The fans have to suffer bc they have to live with the ambiguity of never knowing what happened

>>110122109
He gay

>>110132424
>her, enna, millie, vox, luca and uki in her indie redebut lore video
this list keeps growing every time it's posted

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>constant phase dicksucking in the video
>0 showings of the jelly/clara/gumbun controversy threads
if parrot had balls he'd make a video about it, but i just know this massive phaseshill will ignore it. in fact, why is every single dramafag vtuber also a massive phaseshill? him, smugalana, nousagi, rima. it's unbelievable.

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>>110122076
>When the Nijisister makes a 4chan account and learns how to make a Post

>>110122076
Good people wouldn't stay at Nijisanji.

>>110122884
>Huh, why is it that the vtubers at Nijisanji are still among the most entertaining and talented in the EN sphere
lol
lmao

>>110133622
>>110133656
>>110133952
samefag

>>110130714
I've watched Scarle's streams a few times. Frankly she comes across like someone who is stupid as shit. Like she's barely with us mentally.

>>110133370
It would be so easy for Parrot to make a video about the Ironmouse/award show drama not long ago for example. There are so many people to make fun of and different personality types. But no it's the same stuff he has talked about for about 20 videos now.

>>110131171
>They offer her security if nothing else. It's easy to coast along as Scarle.
Her income has been declining a lot. NijiEN is losing about 40% of its viewers per year. Scarle these days makes a fraction of what she used to. NijiEN is hampering her appeal, while providing her *absolutely nothing*. She gets some outfits and models, but that's not worth 50% of her income.

She makes somewhere around $50k, and the overwhelming majority of that is superchats from 5-10 gachis. If she left, that income would be instantly double. She could buy the outfits and models herself, easily. To put it another way, imagine if Pillowdear decided to join NijiEN. She would sacrifice 1/2 her income, and most of her popularity, and in return get...a bit of 2D artwork with some rigging? That's insane, nobody would take that bargain, except Scarle I guess.

She has a very small audience, so she largely doesn't participate in live shows or merch or anything like that. She is reluctant to collab in case her moneybags leave her. To that effect, she has literally nothing to gain from being in the company. It's not like a popular JP who relies on 3D events and big collabs to generate their audience, quite the contrary. So in this instance, it's difficult to see what the company is even providing her. Hex is another talent just like her, who realized this. He left NijiEn, doubled his income, and didn't lose a wink of sleep over it.

>>110130752
She is being cajoled into staying by people who don't care about her. They are compelling her to make an extremely irrational decision probably to benefit themselves. At some point her gravy train is gonna come to an end, and then she'll wish she took a different path. She is supporting what is basically an evil organization, and she isn't even profiting.

>>110128650
>Alana
Great he's a political shrill too. Guessing if Hololive wasn't so popular he would shit on them more because their unity is too woke or something bullshit.

>>110130832
simply put he can't put out any video that sheds any vtuber group/company that has the blessings of the majority of the vtubing community in even a potentially negative light because he'll get attacked the second he does that. his last non niji video was about the nimi (supposed) doxxing thing because it was a situation in which 99% of the people watching would takeaway from it that nimi was completely innocent and it was just /vt/fags being insane

>>110134315
You come across as stupid as shit

>>110134507
>She is being cajoled into staying by people who don't care about her. They are compelling her to make an extremely irrational decision probably to benefit themselves. At some point her gravy train is gonna come to an end, and then she'll wish she took a different path. She is supporting what is basically an evil organization, and she isn't even profiting.
You are writing fanfic about something you don't even know about

>>110134804
He is fine shitting on Nimi because Cover doesn't care about her anymore

>>110122076
Fuck this bitch, she should have graduated two years ago. She was sending every possible signal that she was one foot out the door in March and April 2024, only to rugpull everyone. Are the walls of Anykuro HQ smeared with honey or something? What the fuck is wrong with her, why is she staying?

>>110134853
If she left, she immediately gets a 2x multiplier on her income. She also gets additional appeal from not having the infernal NijiEN tag on her name, so her audience would modestly increase. It might even increase a lot, since a lot of Hololive fans have shown interest.
She would have no more controls on what she could stream, no manager lecturing her over trivial bullshit. I guess she wouldn't get to chat with Luca over discord, so that's worth $50,000/year to her?

>>110135137
What? By appealing to disloyal dramafags?
I can guarantee you that most of Miki's new audience were the same fans from Niji, too. Dramafags will only tune in for the debut, why would she wanna appeal to these people on /vt/ that think she is stupid and incompetent?

>>110135198
Imagine paying $50,000/year for the privilege of being in Nijisanji.
Your reward:
> A couple outfits
> The ability to talk to Luca's retarded ass on discord
That's worth it to you? She could be making 6 figures socking away for retirement. Instead she's working a 2nd job allegedly. What the fuck is she doing?

>>110125594
Didn't Aster try to rape one of his coworkers too?

>>110124000
Kaelix hits 4view on the regular. Freo seems to have a pretty loyal following despite much lower numbers, and I've heard a lot of people really like Zeal's music stuff.

>>110122076
He's not wrong though. The only reason why she's still there is because of sunken cost fallacy. She’s being constantly abused by her employer, surrounded by toxic "friends," and all she's getting for it is tanked viewership. Staying in Nijisanji is only hurting her more than helping her. Why stay when she can just graduate and reconnect with better people to befriend and collab with?

>>110135549
>Kaelix hits 4view on the regular.
He's the most botted vtuber I've ever fucking seen.
This is a group of homosexual men doing homosexual roleplay content for their underage women audience. I don't know what Scarle has to do with that. It's been known for a while that NijiEN is extremely detrimental to any female vtuber.

>>110122076
He didn't say anything bad about her, the video is mostly fine

>>110135556
>abused
I don't fucking believe in that anymore.

>>110122076
She choose to be In nijisanji, that's her problem

>>110123571
Yeah Clara is a faggot so cry about it i guess

>>110135819
It's not about saying something bad, it's more about dragging her into the limelight for something she wants no part in. She freaked the fuck out last time something like this happened.
>>110135556
Anon, I know it sounds easy, but simply graduating doesn't = double money. You need a system set up beforehand and a guarantee that your old fans even know about your new (old) accounts. Especially in Scarle's case where her PL was a fleshie. Scarle's model is very important to her and she's invested a ton into it, so losing that would be a big potential hit. Even if she made legally distinct scarle, it's a huge risk.
Not to mention being indie means a lot of the jobs she would rely on management for are suddenly something she has to do herself. Management's lazy, but they do cover a lot of menial tasks for the talent and simply having the niji name gives you access to certain artists or opportunities that only work with corpos.

Not everybody is Doki with a million goals and the connections/drive to reach them. Some people just wanna go live and chat at a wall for a few hours each day. For that, Niji is fine.

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>>110122076
Since when is Da Whore considered in the same league as Doki and Mint

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>>110123946

>>110134237
cope
>>110123030
and yet the smaller ones (mostly indies and phase) have remained the same

>>110135722
Kaelix and Freo (my BTB oshi btw) seem to be popular on Twitter, I even like their tweets occasionally, and they're regulars in the clips of the few clippers left for male chuubas. I haven't checked them out for a while though.

Freo does ok-ish but last I checked Kaelix was amongst the highest earners in (whats left of) Niji EN... those teenage girls must be making some good fucking money, haha. I do wonder when they will their floor though, if only because no one else has really committed to offering the experience Niji does.

I'm sorry but the simple reality is that By the Beat were a success since their debut song, and I doubt that changed recently. I'll agree that NijiEN is -for now- kind of a terrible deal for any new femchuuba though. Dunno why Scarle sticks around. Maybe the indie wasteland really is that scary and she doesn't get much shit from the people inside Niji.

>>110133370
They're the only agency that doesn't ban them on sight. Also early Pippa's influence at least on the political front, and maybe the drama gossip shit went downstream from that.

>>110143490
Now post mint kek

>>110123943
"By the Beat"

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>>110122076
Stupid video watched by stupid people. There are no good Nijis.

>>110143490
>20k
nice bots

>>110143824
I really just wanted to screencap the revenue because our good sister was having flights of imagination again

>>110133370
Phase are the dramafag corpo, they don't attack their own, only organize falseflag attacks on others.

Wait. This was a bullying video? I thought it was a she's the only good one left, here's why, and she deserves better sort of video.

>>110144037
parrotfaggot only praises phase trash

>>110144063
They don't do anything.

>>110144097
lmfao sure phasetroon, all the drama in the past 6 months totally didn't happen KEKICHOKI

>>110144110
Huh? I haven't heard them getting into shit. Generally I'll hear holo having a fuck up before noise of phase drama comes my way. Also, I said they don't do anything as in what Is there to be praised for.

>>110144037
If you can't see the subtle digs at her and her content, you need to open your third eye and heighten your intuition a bit

>>110144037
I think what you're looking at is a bunch of nijiseethe and DARVO.
>Parrot is a BULLY and HARASSER for saying Scarle deserves better
>Now back to our regularly scheduled programming: bullying and harassing organ failures for leaving >>110139128 >>110122334 >>110143543

>>110144063
Parrot's whole X acct is full of Hololive orbiting, he even said that Phase being better than Niji was laughable until the drama

>>110143543
I checked on Social Blade and supposedly she makes twice as much monthly which would track with her having twice the sub number.

That stuff is probs super innacurate anyways specially if the channel is at a scale where merch or non-Youtube monetization enters the equation.

>>110140688
Phaseethe

>>110144209
Yeah, Nijisisters have this obsession with dramafags where they blame them for notifying the public of what a black company they are. They'll constantly call anyone who pushes back against their NDF shit "dramafags" too, and they are probably getting a little uppity after Falseeyed closed shop. Probably consider that a "victory."

>>110145713
>After Faleseyed closed shop.
I legit wonder where that guy's heading to. He was the only one of his type I would genuinely call a newstuber.

>>110145713
Exactly. They'll see a pile of dogshit on the ground and blame the pedestrian for complaining about it

>>110145713
>>110146562
It is sad when you have to agree with yourself lol