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>LAST STREAM: ホロライブマリオテニス大会!!Hololive Mario Tennis Tournament!!【#ホロマリオテニス大会】
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>Previous Thread: >>110263842
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Zeitplan
>Return stream TODAY CCST
>AvJ watchalong? Sunday 1am
Rest TBA
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Useful things
https://files.catbox.moe/jy69xb.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/g1zwc2.mp3
Also her solo fes performance
https://gofile.io/d/gUtEIR
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Schedule
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1 Million before stream?
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>>110321230
Probably
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Only 51 more
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>>110322658
Cute. But why does she look so worried?
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@otomoGPT summarize the 67 meme for me
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>>110323017
Mental retardation found in kids and young adults
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>>110323010
I'm not sure, maybe she's seeing some things
>>110323017
It's meaningless
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I bet you can't name 5 things you love about CC.
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>>110323017
It´s a stupid meme, completely unlike the memes we had back in the day. Remember that picture of the cat which goes "Can I have cheeseburgers?" - pure intellectual gold
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>>110323362
Nice!
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>>110323148
>Her beauty
>Her lovely voice
>Her silly cute personality
>Those hips
>Jackie Chan
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>>110323362
WOOOOOO!!!
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>>110323148
Correct. I love CC, not specific attributes.
You shouldn't be fishing for compliments here, CC.
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>>110323148
I love her streams, her cutenesss, her creativeness, her wide hips and big ass, and how she's comfy to be around
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I love her calm rationality and the fact that she has never hated anything in her life. The big boobs certainly help too. Although I wish her legs were a bit longer.
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The "feeling of impending-" is worrying me
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>>110324379
I also love those things about her
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>>110324379
>>110325242
These are Omotos
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>>110324652
That's so cute...
This art is like "the cute girl in class comes up to you", that's the feeling it gives me
>>110325241
That's probably just a reference to the thumbnail or something
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I lomf CC's dorkiness, her sexy slender legs, her haughtiness, her cute giggles, and how passionate she about things she loves hates
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>>110325739
Feels right at home
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>>110325765
It's nice being back home finally
>>110325663
Yeah! She's very nice
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>>110325739
She HATES us
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why is she late
what is she doing
why the fuck is she late bro
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is she fingering herself
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>>110325882
No no, she's prepping something kino
Or still trying to fix the echo, one or the other
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Starting
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Aw yep kino
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It's Immerkino time
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We are spelunking tonight
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she's literally in a cave lol
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Already kino
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Cecilia Immergreen's allegory of the cave
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It's echo and her mic is giga peaking and audio balance is off and her entire setup is all sorts of fucked lmao
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>Döner
Perfect
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>Get CC pregnant
>she forgets the next day
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She's addressing the flaws her fans lament woah. She actually loves us. That's my oshi.
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The dementia rrat is slowly happening
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>>110326182
That's gonna be a surprising birth later
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>still moving
Fugg
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>She's in the middle of moving
Knew it
>Kitchen, Office, living all in one room
Explains the echo kek
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IRyS and who?
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So she's actually gonna move to Japan, sigh
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Lmao, just sitting in a completely empty room
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>>110326269
>>Kitchen, Office, living all in one room
That was the old apartment.
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>>110326283
no nigga she's in the new appartment now and she's talking about EU time. Meaning she moved within Germany.
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>Air mattresses instead of sound proofing
Ceci... kek
>>110326304
That's the current one, it's completely empty still
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Do immerheimian automaton makers use goldfish brains in their creations?
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Man I missed Cecilia Immeryapper
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wtf is she talking about?
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Ah, there's my Immerhater. Now with echo.
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>>110326428
fated mates
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>>110326428
First time on a CC stream? This is pure stream of consciousness yapping. Well... Stream of consciousness hating, really.
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>Can't understand her own writing
Relatable
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she writes her journal like i used to because i was forced by my teacher in primary school
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I like how she audibly has trouble deciphering her own handwriting, kek
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She can't remember what she did on the same day she was writing in the journal...
Ceci...
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i miss her live2d...
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>you're a streamer
AIIEEEE idolfag cover your ears
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>>110326581
Same. For reasons I can't articulate I prefer 2d CC over 3d CC
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>>110326581
dont you love shots like this though?
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>>110326182
sounds like a doujin that could exist
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>>110326581
The 2D's rigging is so bad that she defaults to 3D for better expression
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>Bae desperately called her to help with Shakespeare
Guess they were even after fes
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it's so windy...
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Im fucking overdosing on CCium. I cant handle her cuteness.
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>People who have cars seem to have their life together
If only
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>the ina one
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Biboo... kek
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>>110326661
perfect lmao
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when is she going to find the cave's bluntsmoken?
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>Picked Biboo so she could write there
>Picked IRyS up a bit too, but she mainly jumped
kek
Those shoes sure helped her a lot there
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>Wanted to give the Otomo book at first, but it was too heavy to carry around constantly
Cute...
>>110326964
Rivals in love
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Otomo stone tablet kek
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Is the book heavy or is CC just weak and dainty
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>more fes
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>Ceci asked for Above Below because she wanted their first song for their first fes
That was a nice idea
>>110327034
Yes
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>didnt get rights for 4 songs
god nippon is so fucking retarded
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>Didn't get the rights for the first 3 songs she wanted to pick, didn't even ask about the 4th
Damn...
But she managed to get a nice song in the end, and she got her violin solo aswell
Pretty nice ending
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>gushing about how much she loves idol performances
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>>110326964
cute cultist runes
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CC MELTY
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uh oh melty
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Emotional support dogs
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The hell is a "menty"?
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She's waaay too woman today, if you know what I mean.....
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Aww FWMC cheered her up from all those last minute worries
My cute nervous automaton wife...
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>>110327264
mental breakdown if I had to guess
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CC loves the twins
She's going to rape Mococo while Fuwawa helps
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>>110327282
But FES happened outside of her time
She probably synced with one of the girls in Japan
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CC CRASHOUT
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What are these meetups like?
I went to the tower one because I don't think I could stand typical discordtroon behavior irl
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Is she not using a noise filter right now?
It sounds like it's raining or something in the background, but it's not raining anywhere in Germany at the moment.
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>>110327519
She's in a cave retard. Caves are wet
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How does she lose the key cards so much
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>Lost keycard
>Went to get a new one with Kronii
>Gave her other one to Gigi just incase
>In confusion gave her the other too later
Ceci...
>Gigi had a bunch of cards from Kronii and the other girls too
The cardmaster... kek
These girls...
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>>110327543
I need to take care of her...
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>i have to...you know
she has to what?
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>two takos double teaming their oshi
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If CC can give Biboo uppies, can she beat her in a fight
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>CC typos a lot
>I typo a lit
WE ARE
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My privacy conscious wife
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A SECOND CC CRASHOUT
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i too hate autocorerect CC, this machine wont tell he how to spek
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kek i feel this one
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>Biboo gets really jealous and competitive
>Ripped the marshmallow out of Ina's mouth just to put it back in
Biboo...
>Autocorrect rant
kek Based
>>110327519
She has cave noises on
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Did she ever say what new phone she got?
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CC, even Oxygen can ragebait you...
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CCMoom love!
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Do you miss Mumei
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OH!
She force fed Fuwawa in the middle of the cuddle party kek
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>>110327874
Who
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>>110327874
never watched her so no
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>>110327874
moom...
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She loves the doggos!
>>110327874
Yeah...
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>>110327874
Not even a little
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>she watches critical roll
Her terrible taste is so cute
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>I love Critical Role
I guess no one is perfect.
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>>110327980
>>110327996
it's bad?
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>Loves Critical Role
No idea what that one is, but it looks like DnD stuff
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>>110328008
No, but they're liberals so the conservative/burgertomos are sperging.
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wtf is she talking about
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>>110328008
A bunch of gay ass quirky chungus members of the voice acting cartel play DnD. It's just how you would imagine that.
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>>110328035
No I'm a ttrpg player who hates what critical role has done to the hobby
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>>110328035
is it watchable if i'm not american and dont care about burger politics?
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>1-2 Switch was originally meant to be with Raora
Man...
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>>110328077
i still cant believe they killed off raora in season 2
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>>110328066
It's fun roleplaying stuff.
>>110328060
No idea what you're talking about mate, the hobby is as it ever was. Unless you're talking about/hating daggerheart of w/e their DnD knockoff was called.
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>>110328066
It's not just politics that make me hate those tumblr kind of people, but I think you should just give it a try. I watched like 12 episodes of their second campaign, but I just couldn't stand them. I really tried to like it, but I just couldn't. But I unironically ended up enjoying a DnD campain with AI celebs.
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>When she was younger she wanted to be a teacher
I'm glad she didn't become one, for multiple reasons kek
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>CCmama is very smart
So she took it from her father
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>>110328060
are they responsible for the gay tranny orks and wheelchair characters?
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ImmerGrok is that true?
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>"Weaponized incompetence"
>Automama is generally smart, but sometimes she acts helpless
Ahh...
>Spreading misinformation to her mom
Ceci... kek
Same
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>>110328191
I don't think they are solely responsible for that direction, but they certainly helped bring in that sort of audience.
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>>110328191
Lol, no.

Wheelchair characters were a player-made module that Hasbro endorsed, wasn't ever anything serious and it just blew up because people decided it was some major/official thing. It was dumb as fuck as a concept but who the fuck even cares?

No idea what you mean by "gay tranny orks" I only heard about the dumb nonsense of how orcs being some allegory for black people and how that's racist, which was just absurdly stupid nonsense and had nothing to do with them.
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>>110328126
>No idea what you're talking about mate, the hobby is as it ever was.
If you aren't aware of the damage Matt Mercer has done to DMs then you are luckier than most. It's been a subject of discourse in the scene for a while
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Autopapa...
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>>110328289
I really have no idea what you'd be referring to, so what's the problem? You mean DM's asking their players to act shit out or something like that?
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>>110328281
Yeah, everyone knows orcs are turkish
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>>110328281
>No idea what you mean by "gay tranny orks" I only heard about the dumb nonsense of how orcs being some allegory for black people and how that's racist, which was just absurdly stupid nonsense and had nothing to do with them.
Oh yeah that's what it was. Easily confused stupid burgerot bullshit.
>>110328263
>but they certainly helped bring in that sort of audience.
I see.
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So she gets her smarts and gaslighting from her mom and being scared of tech from her dad
What a fun combo
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>Bought fake flowers and vases yesterday
Oh Ceci
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>Her ear is still clogged
>Going to the doctor this week
Ceci... Your health...
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>Childhood bestie is literally Ceci, but she loves sports instead of nerdy stuff
Imagine
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She LOVES US! She's embarrassed but she loves us!
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>She might finish Elden Ring
its been 1 thousand years...
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>>110328323
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3b6RUcLpQc
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>E33 soon™
>ER finale next week™
Nice!
>>110328501
SHE LOVES US SO MUCH
She gets so embarrassed about it too, so cute...
That's how you know she really means it
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>>110328281
NTA, but wizards of the coast recently removed race-based bonuses in the newest version of DnD because they said it represents "racial determinism" and so now halflings can be just as strong as orcs, there is no functional difference between an elf and a dwarf, and race-exclusive abilities and backstories are no longer allowed. It's baffling that you think the wheelchair crap and making everything fake and gay was a player-driven initiative. It was because liberals infiltrated the company, subverted it, and decided that there were too many "problematic" elements in the thing that everyone has loved for half a century.
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She's been watching Leon memes too kek
They're so funny
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>>110328579
>It's baffling that you think...
Anon, that's the actual facts of the matter, not what I "think" happened.
>T-they removed racial bonuses!
And you're an idiot for not expecting it after removing all the class/cross-class requirements. They already neutered tieflings to pander to their popularity, this has sweet fuck all to do with your /pol/ crap.
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>>110328579
Dont engage with them. Theyre doing the typical oblivious act.
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>This and next week is pretty chill
Yay!
>One big stream related thing soon™
Oh?
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>next 2 weeks will be chill
So after that either doctor or japan trip
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>>110328855
She said she hinted at it, I don't remember anything
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>>110328882
I remember the April thing being hinted, but I think that was the IRL thing she said
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>>110328882
yeah she did 1 or 2 weeks ago but it was sooooo vague that it could have been anything including her going to the moon potentialy.
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When did IRyS become part of the onsen???
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Aaaww Nina is still her best friend.
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>Another childhood bestie
Not sure that's how it works, but okay
>Forced Ceci to watch LOTR a couple years ago
Based
>>110328935
Different onsen trip, Kronii talked about it first
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>>110328935
maybe Irys was Gigitomo all along
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>>110328995
She has like 3+ best friends at this point minimum
Also she was talking childhood friends
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So I'm guessing Sam was her favorite?
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>She still wants to take her revenge on Bae
Oh yeah
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She already knows what duo song she will have for the concert, nice
Wonder who though, Rival?
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>>110329140
>Wonder who though, Rival?
We all know already, there is only one option
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Ah yes, the Otomo eternal servitude
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>our eternal labor and service is unpaid
>no vacation days either
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>>110329163
Also needs to be in kicking distance too
Lovely
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Imagine a Song with Kiara in German. I doubt it but the chance is never 0.
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One Otomo gets a drum what the helly
There's a triangle too! And 3 pieces of grass!
LET'S GOOOO
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>>110329245
She's so generous
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She still wants to do a flip, nice
One day
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>>110329291
The splits too, she remembers still
Eventually we'll get that kino moment
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AIEEE SCHIZO MENTION
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>CC is a biter
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she's a biter remember that one
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Imagine getting bit by cc...
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>Very physically affectionate
>Is a biter
>Forgot why she bit ERB, but they were messing around in the elevator
>Doesn't bit people often
>When she was little her main defense was biting
Alright
>"Biting is fun"
My poor imagination...
>>110329408
I will never forget
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CC's main defense in a court would be that she doesn't remember doing anything
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POCKET SAND
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Can CC beat you if she fights dirty
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I will think of biting a lot now
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>>110329478
she cant even beat her Shadow...
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>>110329478
she can beat me off easily
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>>110329495
Shadow is the ultimate life form, no one can beat shadow
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>Boba story
>CCGG ordered some
>Got an extra, gave it to Ina
>Fuwawa making fun of her
>So Ceci forced her to drink, got on Mococo during
Oh yup
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Is CC Jack Hanma
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>sometimes you just need to have the taste of a child
Oh my, Ceci
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>>110329536
kek
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>>110329478
depends on the kind of dirty, she could easily lower most Otomos guard
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>Might pay for a string quartet for a 3D live
>Taking our instruments away so she can pay for it
Damn.
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Crazy levels of irys slander its all true
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CC is bad at planning in regards to time management, but a natural at planning how to bully
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IMMERHIPS MENTION
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Can CC beat me in a fist fight
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>>110329659
She just loves idiots
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Remember when some of you complained when they gave her pants instead of a skirt
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>>110329659
Of course hehe
>>110329700
Yeah
>>110329716
Pure sex
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>>110329709
she's gonna bite and kicks your balls in and will not hesitate to commit the most dirtiest of tricks to win
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>>110329716
Absolute Sexo
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>>110329659
Every time I think irys might have some degree of intelligence she does or says something stupid enough to prove me wrong
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>BaeRyS Star Wars watchalong with maximum gaslighting
Soon™ maybe
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Incest mention. We are so back.
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>>110329659
>>110329770
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>>110329780
Only indirect though
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>>110329737
I will just hold her down
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>Small Ceci watching a horror movie with her parents
>90% of her nightmares came from that night
Aww...
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i think i watched a video that theorized madame web was supposed to have spider-man in it but every scene with him was cut. forgot who it was.
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Wow Streams, now that's good news
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>Forced soon-to-be sister-in-law and brother to watch Madame Web
>Marriage coming up soon, has to ask about her job there
Ceci will be so happy around that time, that's gonna be really cute

Zeitplan
>Wednesday stream maybe, depending on how the moving goes
>Thursday no stream
>Friday stream
>Sunday 1am AvJ watchalong
>Sunday stream
Pretty nice
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>Kronii getting fucked by DST
kek
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Has CC ever passed out before
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RATE STREAM
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>the BYEEEEEE chat tradition died
It's so over
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>>110330091
it was ok.
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WHAT A GREAT STREAM
She's finally home... Comfy times are back! Yay!
>>110330091
LOVED IT
What a great return stream
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>>110330091
Cute yapping/10
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>>110330091
I LOVE CC/10
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>>110330091
Screw this place I love Ceci/10
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>>110330091
10/10 keycards lost
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>>110330096
Whaet?
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>>110328810
>you're wrong! Liberals subverted and destroyed the franchise a few years before the time you said they did!
Hmm. Okay.
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>raids shiori and not Gigi
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Ceci is scary
It's unbelievable how happy she can make me
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>>110330180
>Removing class restrictions is somehow a "liberal" thing
You know you can just admit you're talking out of your ass and give up, right? You don't have to double down and make even more of an ass of yourself.
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>>110330300
NTA, but isn't the whole point of class restrictions to promote different playstyles?
I know people started hating Battlefield because they got rid of it
Also the reason for them removing it should matter too, but I don't know anything about that
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>I don't bite people - that often

I don´t think Hololive should risk it and allow any interaction between Laplus and CC
it would be like throwing water at a grease fire
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>>110330383
If I had to wager they’re just removing anything even slightly mechanical for the sake of popularity. The big dnd shows brought in a ton of new people that just want collaborative storytelling with a d20 in it just for checks.
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>>110330383
Nah in this case it opened a lot more playstyles and player freedom. Druids had to be neutral, that's no longer a requirement so you can now play a chaotic evil druid if you so desire. Monks had to be lawful, no longer the case, you can be a chaotic neutral drunken brawler monk if you want to. Paladins had to be lawful good etc. A lot of those restrictions were removed so people could play how they wanted (you could and people often did houserule that shit anyway)

Racials were a very old holdover from outdated design ideas where even many classes were strictly tied to races, like the Wizard was always an Elf, that sort of thing. It was stupid that you had to houserule or juryrig something just to roleplay something that'd be very normal for an "adventurer" character, being an odd-one out. A dwarf that's more intelligent than wise, or some such, but then being held back because dwarf was just a terrible race choice for an int based class.

No idea how conservative retards made it all about politics somehow, but those drama tards always find a way.
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Do you think CC will take in the Two Towers with Gigi?
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>>110330526
Reminder
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>>110330562
I guess that makes sense, probably still sucks for the older players though
>>110330589
Ah I see, that would explain it overall
>conservative retards
OI
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>>110330647
>will take in the Two Towers
Whaet?
>>110330657
Well she did say that she's been a biter since she was small
Guess that developed into something a bit different since
PLEASE CECI BITE ME
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All I know about Critical Role is that D&D cartoon my friend made me watch. It was the most unpleasant thing I've ever watched
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Another thing that only got mentioned a little
BIG BRO MARRIAGE SOON! YAY!
That's gonna be so fun for her, she seems VERY excited about it
Cute stuff
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>>110329725
Until 3D gets proper working clothing physics I'm going to prefer tighter clothing. I'm too autistic, the stiff planks that clip through everything take me out of it.
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>>110329725
Oh yeah, I did admit after fes that that outfit was overall a good pick afterall
Still very much prefer skirts though, especially for 2D
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>>110330907
You should take my stiff plank.
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Is CC dainty
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>>110331188
Yes
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>>110331356
proof?
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>>110331412
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Am I right in assuming that she doesn't quiet realize how she moves?
https://youtu.be/taeamQuD9pQ?t=8645
If so, then she has no idea just how sexy she is
Which makes her even hotter because all those moves are just natural to her
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>>110331456
cute
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>>110331856
Did you see the 3D karaoke stream she did together with Gigi? How she moved there was 100% unplanned, but she still had insane natural elegance and sexiness.
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Anonymous otomo, you have been chosen to compete in a Cecilia Immergreen ragebaiting competition. What do you do to win?
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>>110334523
Say coffee is better than tea. Easy, next.
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>>110334523
Rob her but make it very clear that I like her biting and kicking me.
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>>110333593
Of course I did
The fact that now we know for sure that she did all of that and more just completely naturally is the crazy part
This girl is a pure elegant lady and she doesn't even know it, perfect
>>110334523
Hmm
Same as what's been ragebaiting me for the last few days I guess
Release a tiny flying bug in her room that occasionally flies in front of her monitors, distracting her, especially when she's trying to focus, but she can never really see it clearly enough to catch it, and even if she does another shows up a few hours later to do the same thing
That should work pretty well
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>>110334523
Pretend to be too dumb for a repetative boring task and try to make her do it for me. Bonus points for playing dumb when she's explaining what to do
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>>110334523
She forgets everything, so just ask her when she'll fulfil the promise she made to you
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>>110334904
Automama?! Stop pretending to be a bimbo and fix your things
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>2:37
Good Night!
Today was so fun! She's finally home! I'm so happy!
Hopefully her move and doc visit goes well, but we're back to comfy times, yay!
Might do it tomorrow, kinda in the mood, but most likely won't be detailed if so
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so err.. who's currently holding the bongo? just asking
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What are you sinking about, fellow Otomos?
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>>110337138
Beating my drum but (heh)... I don't have the bongo.
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>>110337138
Me
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>>110338948
hand it over or die a la vehicular manslaughter
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>>110330589
You're a dumb nigger and your disingenuous exculpatory bullshit is not fooling anyone. WotC specifically cited indignant critical race politic horseshit when making the changes. Dwarves making poor thieves and elves making poor barbarians is A GAME DESIGN CHOICE. It's essential to the world building and lore of the fantasy races which would naturally have advantages and disadvantages when it comes to abilities, resistances, etc because of these races' specific cultures, the geography they come from, their physicality, the work their society values, etc.

And you're example is fucking stupid. Elves are not always wizards and wizards were not always elves. Your DMs were free to apply whatever bonuses they wanted, so it's not even like these things were set in stone (I suppose they still aren't), however the difference is that now officially, the lore is DEAD. Races are not seen as collective identities or part of larger groups with historical ties. Every city has to be as racially diverse as possible in new DnD. There are no longer underground mines or dwarven cities because they disfavor homogeneous populations in new lore. Every DnD city now has to resemble New York or London to comply with the goals of real world globalism that the entryist faggot liberals associate with IRL. Races are no longer recognizable mechanisms to convey specific trait advantages or communicate to players what solutions might be advantageous. Encountering a troupe of Orc highwaymen now means nothing, because now these Orcs might just be traveling accountants or drag queens instead.
Their design philosophy has been ruined and decades of game design, community lore, and world building has been destroyed.
This has nothing to do with /pol/ or any stupid shit like that. I never go to /pol/ and I hate you people for stealing and then destroying things that people love.
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What the hell
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>>110340468
The nerds are just slap fighting on the wrong board
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>>110334523
Invite her to play La Mulana and tell her it's an Indiana Jones homage game without any nazis.
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Is CC a deep sleeper, would she find out I’m holding her hand now that she’s asleep
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>>110340642
CC liking Critical Role was terrible news in more ways than anyone could have predicted
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>>110341057
Guy who just wrote that wall of text here.
I don't even hate critical role. They're unfunny, woke as fuck, and annoying, but they're ultimately harmless. They're a bunch of eceleb/hollywood types that are the DnD equivalent to the Big Bang Theory. CC liking it is not a big deal.
I'm sure they've introduced at least a few non-faggot normies to DnD who then went on to get really into it and enjoy the old stuff.
Critical role are not WotC. They aren't the ones responsible for making terrible, politically-motivated overhauls to game systems and lore.
I wasn't going to let the cum-felching queer ITT lie and pretend all the recent changes were done to "streamline" the game, however. That's all.
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>>110341057
Elaborate, I don't know much about critical role
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>>110341700
NTO You know the dialog writing in Dispatch, that's their whole thing. I don't like their style of comedy
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I fucking love Keenbiscuit
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>>110327874
Very much so
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>>110339757
>Y-you're a poo-poo-head
I'm sure whatever follows is going to be entirely sane, and not utterly retarded.
>WotC specifically cited indignant critical race politic horseshit when making the changes.
Except they didn't. At all. You're literally making shit up.
>Dwarves making poor thieves and elves making poor barbarians is A GAME DESIGN CHOICE.
And the moon is an orbital body. What the fuck are you even trying to say with this you dumb fuck? Oh right, you don't actually have anything to say, you're literally just sperging.
>It's essential to the world building and lore of the fantasy races which would naturally have advantages and disadvantages when it comes to abilities, resistances, etc
Sure, and we've already been over why there would also be exceptions to this which would make hardline "racials" a moot point. Drow are evil by nature, it's was their default racial setting, yet Drizt, a non-evil drow, is one of the most popular characters in the setting. It's almost as if binary defaults in a fantasy game about being special is fucking stupid "game design" and WoTC have been changing away from those settings since fucking second edition, which you probably somehow never even heard of.
>And you're example is fucking stupid. Elves are not always wizards and wizards were not always elves.
Case in point. You are literally a fucking tourist to the hobby, fuck off back to /pol/ you retarded sperg.
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>>110344522
>Sure, and we've already been over why there would also be exceptions to this which would make hardline "racials" a moot point.
One of the things I have often noticed low-IQ liberals do repeatedly is they often try and explain how generalized rules, definitions, and patterns are defined or broken by outlying exceptions. It's bizarre.
Things like: there aren't 2 sexes in nature because hermaphroditism exists.
I can't determine if they're being disingenuous to such an extreme and consistent extent, or if they really are just this unimaginably stupid.
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>>110344806
>Anon fails at basic reading comprehension
Nice try faggot, but you're not even responding to the post you're replying to, you're just writing weird fucking fanfiction at this point.
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>>110344522
>It's almost as if binary defaults in a fantasy game about being special is fucking stupid "game design"
Wouldn't making a character that existed outside those defaults make any such person wanting to "be special" feel even more so? Are you sure you play DnD?
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>>110344868
Yes, but if you take your head out of your ass a moment and think about it you'd understand that "race is like this in the narrative/setting" and "race has these strict restrictions in game design when you make your character" are not the same damn thing. The old design punished people for making such special characters because "sure you can play a Dwarf Bard but you've got that pesky -2 charisma gimping your character forever" and they now moved away from it. WotC doesn't write your world, your setting for you, thats up to the DM you feckless idiots.
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>>110344943
Then just play with a DM that won't apply the -2 charisma penalty to your Dwarf version of Tim Curry from the Rocky Horror Picture Show or whatever other faggoty shit you want to play as.
I assume you have a friend group you play with?
I don't understand why you think WotC has no control over your DM's setting, lore, or characters, but some magic spell completely controls your group's ability to play whatever numbers you want.
>but how am I supposed to carry my totally unique character from one campaign group to another? I wanted to explain all his cool previous adventures to my new friends who are totally interested in me.
You don't, you autistic fucking retard. No one likes starting a new campaign where everyone starts fresh but some asshole has a level 9 mage because of all the previous campaigns he's done with other friends. That's the only reason I can imagine why you would be against modifying the rules on a per-group basis.
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CC's a biter huh? I want her to bite my neck and then move down to my cock and stretch my foreskin with her teeth!
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>>110345178
>Then just play with a DM that won't apply the -2 charisma penalty to your Dwarf
Yes, that's what basically everyone who actually plays the game did, which is why WotC no longer bothered with predefined and restrictive racials. Well done anon, you've figured it out.
>I don't understand why you think WotC has no control over your DM's setting, lore, or characters, but some magic spell completely controls your group's ability to play whatever numbers you want.
I don't understand why you made up a narrative to get confused over, when no such thing was ever stated or implied.
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>>110341700
>>110343836
>>110341057
she's a german, germans notoriously have very shitty, very pedestrian, very braindead senses of humor

they love American sitcoms and poop jokes
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>>110345409
She's also a woman. If you're not occasionally disappointed in a woman's taste in something, she's not very feminine. CC watching critical role is just a typical woman thing you roll your eyes at, then move on. Are we forgetting her Twilight obsession?
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I want to arm wrestle with CC
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what the helly?
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>grün getting camped by a shitter for months
>decide to stay away until ccs schedule clears up
>cc is home so i take a peek
>just some retards argueing about dnd
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What are CC’s stats in DND
STR:13
INT:13
WIS:10
DEX:7
CON:13
CHR:9
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>>110346397
too much str and con
too little chr and dex
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>>110346324
Would you rather have that or the other
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>>110346397
What's the difference between INT and WIS
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https://x.com/hololive_En/status/2033830701791879420

Does CC even use this? Do ANY en members use this? Has anyone /here/ even used this?
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>>110346397
High chr
(Instruments, dancing, singing)
Argueable high con
(Indestructable body but sensitive to pain so high ac makes more sens
Low str
(Sticc)
Rest mid
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>>110346484
street smart vs book smart
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>>110346495
Jps, Ids and Fuwamoco
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>>110346324
like that other anon said I would rather have two autistic nerds clashing instead of our usual schizos
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>>110346324
>No stream rn
>No xitter post to talk about
What did you expect retard?
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>>110346830
After reading through the rest of the thread i agree. Was just a weird first thing to read
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>>110346846
Pregnant silence. Retard.
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Good morning
Why were the nerds fighting last night?
>>110337542
Sinking about the comfy times ahead
Also the jelly Bib
>>110346495
>Do ANY en members use this?
A few, rarely
I mainly only saw FWMC and Shiori so far
>Does CC even use this?
No, she can't because it's not available in Europe yet
But she was interested in trying it
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pov: you don't let her bite your collar bones
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holy fucking fuck
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>>110346975
She really wants to bite it, but can't explain why, cute
>>110347046
That's a nice tummy, less sure about the legs though
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>>110347046
olive oyl lmao



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