2 year later, what led Nijisanji to the delusion that they could get away with firing and slandering Selen?
well she’s gonna kill herself soon so who cares
>>110706080Unironic Nijinigger cope, see >>110706423
>>110706080Nijisanji is a Japanese corporation they are used to fans having complete brand loyalty and management believed that publicly smearing a suicidal employee was a clever strategy while firing her. It's more shocking that Elira and Vox were fully behind that foolish idea which indicates they were stuck in the fan echo chamber. They really believed that NijiEN viewers would agree with their smear campaign since the dedicated fans were affirming every horrible decision.
>>110706080It working with Sayu
>>110706857And then they found out the hard way that it only works once. Selen's termination was such a massive black swan event that it retroactively reclassified Zaion's termination as a black cygnet event.
>>110706080Well its usually pretty easy to point out how BPD women work if they'd just drop all the messages, but being a Japanese company they are stupidly private. Just go full Turkey Tom Niji, it'd be funny as fuck.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL9GA0znSnsBut Selen clammed up the second she found out a court would have to scrutinize the "bullying" messages, which saved her ass since the simps would never question their fat BPD queen. For better she isn't like other BPD whores that regularly run to other youtubers to get railed; see itschaeiry.
>>110707720oh wow, Dokischizo is still alive
Today I will remind them.Also it's funny how NDF tries to deflect with> it were antis who botted them!> a suspiciously rich crazy NDF member who didn't know better botted them!> company itself DEFINITELY did not bot them!
>>110706080Getting away with it hand over fist the first time they did it with Zaion. They snapped their fingers and their entire corner of the internet unpersoned her. Second time around they tried to do it with a more established, more connected, far more well liked employee of theirs and it blew up in their faces
I know that Scarle has oilers and Elira is doing fine for a mid-3view but what is Finana's motivation?
>>110706080they're still active and dookibird has fallen to niji levels of viewership after her dramaboost dropped off.
>>110707988kys Dokischizo
>>110707988Dokibird outperforms the entire NijiEN on a good day
>>110708059not Meloco if we're to believe this >>110707815 but Meloco is pretty much JP now with EN branch in her name and nijiJP still does well
>>110707985Doesn't she still live with her parents? Pretty much any income she gets is disposable income, also she runs fundraisers for her taxes and debts on the regular and some retards actually fall for it
>>110707331There were the differences.Sayu was an outspoken newbie lacking in general support. This made it easy to vilify her with the assistance of others that had more popularitySelen in contrast was quite established and popular. When they tried, no one bought it and by this point, cracks were starting to show due to other departures. But you were right in it had people reevaluating Sayu's case
>>110708095There's one guy that singlehandedly dropped more than $1k on her latest debt
>>110706080The EN division being basically irrelevant.
they could have gotten away with it if they weren't so retarded and up their own ass, but I guess since it worked once before they had no reason to think it would fail a second time
>>110706080>What led to the delusion that they could get away with it?Because they did it before and it worked? Sayu was basically the blueprint. The thing that actually killed them wasn't even Selen, it was just them being shitty people on main and stepping on rakes.Every time they would try something, it would be the most cartoon villian shit ever and people would shit on them even harder.This anon brings up a good point as well>>110706825Niji is used to complete loyalty. The thing that changed was Doki had an active and devout fanbase as she was the literally the most subbed female in NijiEN at that time. They were loyal to her, not the brand. Also the west hates corporations.
when ike comes back from his cryogenic sleep he should do a tell-all
>>110709963Anon...
>>110709963Didn't he already? Or was that some other ex-niji?
>>110707985She's busy with school and doesn't have the time to focus on being an indie. Staying with Niji will at least give her a passive income that doesn't require much effort (hence all the low-effort study streams)
>>110709988>>110710309That anon is technically correct, Xandu (Ike) did not do a tell-all.What he did was more of a tell-enough-that-anyone-with-two-brain-cells-to-rub-together-can-fill-in-the-blanks. And anyone who can fill in the blanks could see that the company deliberately misled him with half-truths, whole lies, and/or other misinformation.
>>110706080>company who goes for the Twitter crowd>gets eaten by the Twitter crowdStory as old as time. I also wonder howmuch Vshojo money got spend on slandering NijiEN at that time.
>>110707988If she's doing the same numbers as NijiEN talents then she's definitely better off than anyone still there, since she doesn't have to give up most of her revenue to her employer.
>>110710734Misled HIM, but not necessarily Elira and Vox.
>>110710807Bitch, NijiEN at the time was already beneath notice. Fucking with Hololive was always Gunrun's priority. And the black stream was such a horrendous shitshow that no external effort from a rival company was even needed to tank their reputation.
>>110710871Yeah but Elira and Vox are more deserving of the benefit of the doubt than the company is.It doesn't really help the company's case one bit that Elira had arrived in Japan only a few hours before the termination - a few hours into her weeks-long or months-long stay in Japan, on a work visa whose validity was contingent to her remaining gainfully employed by Anycolor. Between that, the company's history of fuckery, and Xandu having privately shown Doki hard proof that the company was less than honest with him, it's more likely than not that Elira was acting under duress.
>>110711203Lel
>>110711241I'd be willing to believe that. Unfortunately at this point we will literally never know, because even if, say, Elira quits at some point in the future and then after getting out apologizes or says she was misled, it might just as well be crocodile tears. I wouldn't anti her but I also don't think I'd give her the benefit of the doubt (as an ex-viewer). If she wanted to feel bad and quit the company over it, the window for that helping her reputation is far gone at this point.
>>110711241>Yeah but Elira and Vox are more deserving of the benefit of the doubt than the company is.True, but compared to Ike, they're not THAT deserving. They were the company's darlings and effectively the two biggest faces of the EN branch. Even among Luxiem, Ike was effectively a second class member who got virtually nothing. He had one single drop of unique merch that wasn't part of a luxiem set, and it was several years in, just a few months before he broke down and quit. Between the messages from the Raz leaks, as well as after the Reimu shit, we got a ton of messages discussing/showing about how he was treated, and it was a far cry from Elira/Vox.Like seriously, as far as suspicious folk go, they're the top. The only two who might be more suspect than them would be Millie and Luca from the leaked DMs.
>>110706825This, that kind of black company behaviour is/was all too common in Japan, which is why the current defamation/libel laws are what they are, so companies can't just slander their employees after they kick them out and ruining their chance at finding further employment. Companies would threaten employees with publicly airing all their grievances if the employees spoke up about the company etc.And they were technically correct, because Selen was a foreign contractor they *could* get away with it legally. What they didn't get is that this was such absurdly heinous behaviour that anyone with an actual soul would hate them for it, and only soulless imbeciles would keep backing them.
>>110707815it's obvious anycolor waited until they released their financial report to reduce how much they've been botting niji en
>>110706080It worked once and they got cocky
>>110711241I tried watching Eliras DMC and Mother series, she was constantly disinterest, distracted, sick, canceled stream in the last minute. I have never seen the black stream I was done with NijiEN long before that. I watched Selens Black Mesa streams and the one puzzle game where you draw a dick on the map. The dragoons behaviour was cringe, superchatting for cents to get a thank you thank you and trying to hold conversations over superchats. That's ID tier.
>>110711722Firing Sayu was like capturing Maduro. You get away with eliminating a minor player and you suddenly think you can fight an 800-pound gorilla with an army of religiously loyal followers and not take a hit
>>110711496A public exchanging of olive branches with Doki would fix her reputation almost immediately. It worked for Ike.Hell, Doki saying that they had made peace privately would be enough. She wouldn't need to use names or even gendered pronouns, just something like "That person and I cleared things up privately, I've forgiven that person for what they did/were forced to do, and that person and I will not comment further on the matter" would get the job done.Of course you're right that Elira would need to leave Niji before any of that can happen publicly, even if they've already made peace privately months ago. Doubly so if they spoke privately about Elira staying in Niji EN despite everything, and Doki giving her her blessings - if that happened, they'd DEFINITELY have to keep quiet about it.
>>110711689Why is that obvious? Unlike the coward Yagoo they publish NijiEN's livestreaming revenue, so it's completely meaningless for their financial report.
>>110711514Ironically Elira's favor was due to her Japanese popularity/etc, not so much her western one>>110711589>so companies can't just slander their employees after they kick them out and ruining their chance at finding further employment.Somehow they found a way with Zaion/Sayu. Thankfully nature is healing
>>110711864That's assuming that she can convince Doki herself. (Though Doki could just do it to take the high road either way.)People were already more weirded out by Ike being there, since he and Selen got along really well at Niji, so I think in the eyes of a lot of people that already made some sense and was easy to accept. Meanwhile Elira and Selen famously basically never interacted during her entire time at niji.
>>110711891there's the nijiseethe, deflecting to holo at any criticism
>>110711241Nothing stopped her from hopping on a plane back to Canada and tweeting out "The company tried to make me put out a hit piece on my suicidal coworker" as soon as she landed.
>>110706080Dunno
>>110706080because it always worked in Japanistan
