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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://vtubertracker.info/en
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vstats.jp/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/
>https://holo-tracker.vercel.app/
>https://www.holostats.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/
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TOTAL
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VICTORY
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>>110778536
What about my boy roberu?
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>>110778746
He's gonna stay. He seems to be doing fine.
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>>110778458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzdLB-Z14SE
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Today's theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OIRgPdjQ-c
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So nothing has changed,the cancer that is stars en is still there,no one got canned,They will be making some money out of this but it will be entertaining watching them bleeding out.THD
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>>110780176
>stars
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>Wake up
>Kiara is being a whore
Bummer I guess lol
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>>110780519
yeah, mine
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>>110780519
yeah, Dwight Howard's
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>>110780964
Amelia Watson on suicide watch
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>>110780964
is this that japanese corpo thing where they transfer you to a department where you do nothing to make you quit instead of firing you outright?
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>>110780964
So how come this is such a big deal for Shien who barely does shit but not for Roberu?
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>Back from Good Friday fishing
>Something happened to the Homos
Is it an Easter blessing? What happened anons?
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>>110781209
I'd be willing to bet this whole "quasi-indie" treatment the Homos got is actually Yagoo&friends doing their absolute most to keep them on instead of just closing the branch outright like the other suits demanded.
This still gives the Homos a fighting chance if they are motivated enough and barely even affects Roberu who has been working his ass off doing everything by himself for years already anyways.
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>>110781246
they are dead
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>>110780964
>Sales of birthday
>Anniversary goods
If this is real, these are the two factors that we should discuss, because this proves that Holostars have absurdly low merch sale, and this includes Roberu and Oga.
>But why?
There was some retards botting their streams with a rather high frequency, giving the idea that their male and female collabs are pulling numbers for these two, OBVIOUSLY fake, and I patiently just wait for information that can prove otherwise, like this one.
Other than this, it's either Indonesia or Flipland fucking itself with floods or quakes, since these two are the main nations hosting massive bot farms since their country is composed of 100% politician corruption, and you can freely do crimes there as long as you pay in advance.
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>>110778547
Will Kanata return now that homos are gone?
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Hello, the Bolivian guy that draws porn of Stars x Live here, I noticed some dude kept spamming my art here passing off as me which cool, thanks for the publicity.
Usually I only post on /v/ or /pw/ and sometimes /sp/ depending on the game day.
I just wanna say I am actually more surprised at the amount of "fans" who are shocked this shit is happening than the announcement itself and am laughing, I been watching Altare and other talents for a while and they has been making comments about this on his streams all the time, which these "fans" would know if they watched, hell the Unicorns that hate the branch seemed to tune in more than these people and the sad part is its so fucking easy to support a VTuber even if you are poor.
The can blame the company or the girls who don't want to collab with them all they want but that won't change shit, Kiara could collab with the entire branch now and tomorrow nothing would change for stars, because their fans think sharing shitty tumblr tier fan art on x is enough.
Anyways, sad if they die but the branch had it coming, I am used to disappointment so I'll just move one to something else once they are gone.
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Kiara schizo will immediately post bait once the previous thread dies
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>>110781415
>and this includes Roberu and Oga.
I don't have any numbers or evidence to back this up but I doubt either of them have good merch sales. It's probably more Izuru, maybe Astel and Shien that push merch since they do have a respectable amount of yumes for their size.

Roberu didn't really seem to give a shit about Cover ceasing their support of the branch, I honestly can't imagine merch being a big part of his income with how chill he seemed about all this. Guy came across as weirdly happy that Cover is making things clear like this if anything, there's a lot of people saying it's even a positive for him since he doesn't have to waste time on official Cover business anymore and can just focus more on his own things like he always has been doing anyways.
Oga is a bit of an odd one since he never gave even an iota of a shit about numbers, guy is just in it for the love of the game. He's a huge idol and vTuber otaku, what for most of the other Homos is a desperate attempt at a career is just a hobby for him since he never stopped working his day job.
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>do nothing except watch and support CGDCT
>win
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>>110780964
ame will never get to call this guy cool again...
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>>110781665
like I said, only homo collabers can give shit to cover without looking like a bitch.
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>>110781611
She just wants attention and she got a lot of it. I don't think there's anything to analyze, people are now talking about her more than the dead dying bois
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>dooby deactivate her membership because of inactivity
Why can't Saba do this?
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>>110781619
years of homo welfare turned me off
I was a holofan. WAS.
it just feels bad when you buy merch and it keeps going to those parasites
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>>110781620
Why is it always a fucking kfp twitter celebrity lol
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I won
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Thread is off to a good start, thanks for coming bros and sisters
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man... im going to get a fatty milkshake. today is a good day.
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>>110781658
Kiara disagrees with your assessment
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The homonigger trying to peddle that SCs matter more than merch just to go
>they're going to axe the other branch bros
Is pretty funny
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>>110781415
Schizos think if they lie enough reality will change and their delusaions will become the truth
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>Today is a good day
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>>110781711
>Deactivates membership in support for dabois

I knew she was still an ally!
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>back to back recycling
I hate this
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>>110780964
SCopesisters...
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I'm not defending Kiara. The fact she said anything at all and caused drama for herself was retarded.
I'll say this though, as a few pointed out Kiara probably feels a certain way because this happened to her before (or something similar) so she would disagree with what they are doing.
She forgot that this is a business.
I lied, she KNOWS it's a business but she just hates when It happens.
yeah, Kiara makes cover money and got a duo live which sold out but
>"when that stops, or the branch becomes less profitable, will this happen to us too? Will I have to go through this again?"
is what she's thinking about. I doubt she cares about Dubais whatsoever but using them as a way to portray her hate towards the isolation/sink or swim method.

do I agree with it? not really but I see where Kiara is coming from.
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>>110781723
where is the fat grem pic?
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>>110781731
Happy good Friday anon
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im gonna get a borgar to celebratino
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>>110781715
fan reflects oshi
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>>110781674
you were right
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>Kiara and GG
I literally can't think of a worse sounding duo with those voices. I ain't watching that shit.
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I predict that some former homo staff will leak numbers in the next 24 hs
can feel it in my balls
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Hololive is dying
ID and EN are next
Rip
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Today was a good day, even with the pathetic virtue signaling from kiara lmao
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>>110781749
shes to dumb to understand how her fans feel seeing THEIR hard earned money and support get wasted on the sharts
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https://files.catbox.moe/ci6kn1.mp3
>FRIENDLY REMINDER!!
we love Mori here
we love Kiara here
we love Dooby here
we love Ina here
we love Saba here
we love Namie here
we love Nimi here
we love IRyS here
we love Shachi here
we love Bae here
we love Kronii here
we love Fuwawa here
we love Mococo here
we love Nerissa here
we love Biboo here
we love Shiori here
we love ERB here
we love Cecilia here
we love Raora here
we love Gigi here
we love Randon OUR HUSBAND here

we hate Kiaraschizo/Egguardo/Baeschizo here
we hate Selenfag/Ennacuck/Donie Darko here
we hate homobegging nijishitters here
we hate all schizos here
>Umm, achuwee, we hate-
We hate YOU, you falseflagging cocksucking son of a dead drunken fat whore
>We
Yes we, You can kill yourself and go to hell
We all would be happy if you killed yourself and died right now, nobody would fucking miss you, especially not your whore mother who takes dicks inside and out 24/7
We won't fucking miss you when you are gone, we will celebrate
if I could hire a hitman on you right now, I would
I wish you nothing but the worst and most painful death possible and eagerly look forward to the day you die alone and miserable
Amen
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>>110781770
>2 more weeks
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>>110781763
Add in Ollie for ear destruction
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>>110781638
You can say they are wrong, but you are not them. If I ever see/hear how they prefer you SC instead of buying merch, I would be willing to say otherwise.
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I crave Raora's breast milk
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>>110781766
>some former homo staff
They've only had like 2 managers total for the bunch of them, nobody is gonna leak shit when it's this obvious who it'd be from.
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>was about to go to sleep
>just heard the good news
>too giddy
>can't sleep now
I blame the homos
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This thread is nothing but shitposting so might as well ask here. I have a flu and my head and ears have been itching like hell a lot for the last few days. Why? Could it be some allergic reaction triggered by the flu?
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>>110781750
i'm an otomo, that obese grem is a distant cousin
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>>110781813
Focus on your rest Kronii
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>>110781770
>Holostars is dying
>EN is next
>Rip
ftfy
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>original songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYNYhSsR8EE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxRbAEjDS9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1A76PvsqD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDyrIDHAdDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag9t15y7JwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAkdw_McUD0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl0C3ggGtfM

>covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqXrBy_FIU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OffTXFgbn7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ZfsVVhdww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTCXfRbdVb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LEc7es4_rE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwIGMSZL2Ho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5TuPiW2DK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2zDT0yIi6E
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>pop in from Towa
>more mentions about Kiara than Homos
Glad schizos get permabanned in other places
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>>110781766
Most of them got poach from FSP already.
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>>110781686
Is it not simply coping? You are not contractually obligated to participate in company events.
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>>110781781
Even If there's a 1% chance of cover changing their mind and reversing it because talents like Kiara disagree with it then she should speak her mind.
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>>110781819
probably cancer
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>>110781813
https://youtu.be/wZGLkYVwcCs
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>>110781855
oh oof
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>>110780919
They gonna boycott something they already don't watch?
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>>110780176
>stars
One of the funniest sights is beggars trying to blend in
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>>110781752
this is a GOOD FRIDAY
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As I predicted, Fes and Kiara's concert are over so Cover is starting to release all the "bad" announcements. I suppose graduation announcements are gonna start trickling down next. Kronii will probably be this Sunday.
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>>110781855
And cuckposter woke up too
Even when THD happens this thread can't be normal
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>>110781855
once a beggar always a beggar
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Oh no the boring talentless leeches can't get their welfare anymore, stay tuned to what happens next!
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>>110781886
They will boycott it by refusing to watch clips!
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>>110781819
Take some allergy meds
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>>110781841
Yeah those darn schizos forcing Kiara to tweet not once but three times about it. It's a tragedy that there really is no way to prevent this. Those damn schizos forcing her to speak her mind.
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>>110781890
>suppose graduation announcements are gonna start trickling down next. Kronii will probably be this Sunday.
its that time of the year
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>>110781890
Your pathetic.
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>>110781819
you are going to die nigga AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!HAHAHAHAHAH!
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>>110781749
Stuff like this is abit divisive; a minority are happy with the homos getting sidelined (because their money doesn't go to them}, a minority are gigalivid and most would just go "damn that's sad" and move on. She should've talked with her coworkers or her friends she felt the need to vent insert of dragging it for all to see
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>>110781698

No mention of EN Stars?
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>>110781726
I'm one of the most hardcore unicorns and I'm celebrating THD for hours, this only makes my SCs better as now none of it goes to faggots anymore, you're the one dogmatically pushing that merch pays more without a single logical reason.
Tell it to my face that 400$ in merch (130$ value) is better than 400$ in supas, make this math work and I'll believe you.
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>>110781926
yeah EN Stars are good and thriving
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>>110781859
>You are not contractually obligated to participate in company events
They are. Official Cover business is official Cover business.
They can't just say "Nah, I don't feel like joining this group collab meant to shill the new Voice Packs they forced us to record half a year ago".
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>>110781711
Find out last thread!
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>>110781915
You got permabanned and called out by mods on Towa and infinity for samefagging have fun talking yourself I'm gone
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>>110781726
Why do the homobeggars always try so hard to drag ID down their level?
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>>110781290
>this whole "quasi-indie" treatment the Homos got is actually Yagoo&friends doing their absolute most to keep them on instead of just closing the branch outright like the other suits demanded.
This much is obvious. People are seething but clearly this was the merciful option.
The talk must have been
>the branch is running at a deficit for six years now and will have to close it
>”what if we don’t spend anything on it, so at least the loss is minimal”
>have it your way
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>>110781686
>Guy came across as weirdly happy
I think Roberu honestly does hate the Stars most. From what Astel said about their meetings and shit Roberu probably just looked at the others, knew they weren't going to try and were just going to coast, and gave up on them all a long time ago. The idea that their funding/resources are getting revoked probably doesn't bother him because he can simply cut down a little and chill while doing what he's always done, but to the ones who just wanted a free lunch, the free lunch isn't free anymore. Means the dead wright might shave itself off and he doesn't have to care about it anymore.
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Good night bros, today was a good Friday.
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So this means more homo jp debuts right? EN please next
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Graduate the homos
Graduate the homo beggers
Graduate the homo collabers

Keep the Hololive clean from filth
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>>110781936
I laughed, thanks anon
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>>110781929
>you're the one dogmatically pushing that merch pays more without a single logical reason.
The only reason i need is the girls talking about his
I'll take their words over some larping retarded cuck on 4chan trying to push for his BS when his whole shit argument started with trying the "holoEN can get axe'd too look the homos had good SCs"
You're mistake was to think anybody here is half as retarded as you are lol
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>>110781926
give it a few months
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ive chafed my nipples from seeing all the beggars tears
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>>110781906
Yeah that sounds like a good idea
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>>110781711
Well you see Abraham came to the Land of Canaan as commanded by God, then he had a son Isaac, Isaac had a bunch of descendants those became the 12 tribes of Israel from which all the modern jews are descendant including one Sameko Saba.
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>>110781992
The girls can say you're a faggot and it will be true.
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>>110781980 (me)
*no more
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>>110781929
Shes not getting $400 in value of those supers...The Homos are getting shit taken away because they dont sell merch, some of them do ok in SC but those SC dont mean much.
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>>110782010
Hmmm but why cover doesn't suppor teh bois?
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>>110781926
No not yet they are facing an ultimatum probably where they have to start showing a turnaround or they get the same fate later this year
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>>110781992
That's the definition of dogma, reject your reason, only listed to the words being said.
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>>110781686
Roberu's stream earlier was funny as fuck he just used the announcement drama to advertise his new outfit and upcoming (self-funded/organized) 3D project lmao
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>>110781662
>thanks for the publicity.
This thread has about five regulars, three of them schizos. Going by the fact your manifesto of a post had zero replies you can rest assured nobody noticed before or even now
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>>110781939
Seems like a minor thing to set aside 1 hour occasionally compared to losing ALL company support so it comes across as cope. Otherwise why not just go indie?
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>>110778458
ACTUAL PREVIOUS
>>110774761
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>>110782016
Right so the girls saying that personal merch runs matter more are correct, thanks for agreeing with me. Btw my oshi told me i was cute and retarded, i took it as a truth.
>>110782058
Who do i believe anon, the girls themselves that get said money on their bank account or your stupid nigger ass on 4chan. Unless you wanna try and pretend for some reason the girls are lying about getting more from merch?
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>>110782078
I am actually
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSpAbEJlwFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSpAbEJlwFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSpAbEJlwFE
ultra orange soon
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Based?
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BANISHMENT ROOM
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>>110782010
This image lacks the most important example of pro-homo favouritism and the reason pushback began by the Holos

The no overlap rule
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>>110781819
could be small reaction to cough and congestion drugs in cold medicine. try only fever suppressing drugs
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>>110782078
She and CC should do a Chrono Trigger collab
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>>110782078
yes cute sheep
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>>110781929
wrong anon, its me you should be replying to. im a unicorn, but that doesnt fucking matter for this argument does it? you're using assumptions and "we did the math" with margins we dont have (fed to chatgpt), you're just mad because you got caught by your own circular logic
>saying merch needs ~70% margin to match SC, which is “impossible”
but that number literally comes from your own assumed model so you're literally using your assumptions to prove your assumptions, how is that an argument?
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GLORY TO HAMAS, GO GO HEZBOLLAH, ETERNAL VICTORY OF NASRALLAH. WITH FIGHTER JETS AND MIGS LET'S BOMBARD THE HOMOSIS
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>>110782108
if you know a way to add it in, please do
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>>110782107
Then fucking leave? Lol
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Just how fucking low of an openion the homos have of themselves to stay in a company that is scilently screaming at them to get out? Literally none of the fags have the confidence of retaining their already meager audiance outside? How pathetic dude.
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>>110782107
how come robe isn't affected
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>>110782107
they're contractors, its how it works
when you don't want a contractor's service anymore you just say bye bye
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>>110782046
The IRyS Trojan Horse to join the program for the singular purpose of exposing management as outright begging girls to do collabs and killing the entire project was perhaps the most devastating move of grim era
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>>110782046
This way so gay. Imagine the meetings that led to this. The first dude that pitched this shit.
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Hololive lost
Niji lost
Phase lost
Homos lost
Mori lost
Biboo lost
Nerissa lost
Shiori lost
Bae lost
Nimi lost
Kiara won
Saba won
Dooby won
Shachi won
Kronii won
Mint won
Grimmi won
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>>110782107
>oboretai
lol
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>>110782107
Imagine being starved out like this while you still have a massive debt to Cover
Astel is gonna have to go whore himself out at this rate
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He won, but at what cost?
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>>110782147
Its not that homos, beggars and sisters can't read the room its just that they hate the room and want to shit all over it
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>>110782116
pecorine x subaru how crazy is that
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>>110782107
Cover is a black company, the boys show shove it to the japs and mass graduate to stick it to them.
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>>110782167
You dont need to just spam whatever to keep ppm up, were doing fine today.
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>>110782166
>The first dude that pitched this shit
You mean Omega?
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>>110782107
>Oboretai
I haven't seen this shit stirrer in forever. Guessing his bad faith clip channel got shadowbanned.
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I went to see how the homo sister reddit was doing and the top 3 posts on it right now are all about the girls reactions KEK
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>>110782107
rip in piss faggots
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My entire timeline is filled with homo discussion.
what the fuck is going on??????
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I give it this weekend for people to forget this happened because no ultimately gives a shit about the homos outside virtue signaling for brownie points.
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>>110782107
Imagine Cover taking all your money and then failing to market you while other male vtuber groups like Plave rake in tons of cash because female fans are the richest and most willing to spend demographic
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>>110782203
>mass graduate to stick it to them
*looks right*
*looks left*
y-yeah, g-glory to holostars... *gulp* they should mass graduate to show their power!
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Can someone post that one image where people love a cube which says "thing" and the one guy wants the manufacturer to change the thing. Then nobodly likes the new thing any more
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>>110782226
Performative theatre from people pretending they cared about the homos
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>>110781145
I doubt she cares anymore. Didn't evrn give him a proper description in the Aquarium
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>>110782107
>Oboretai
ahahahaha, god yes imagine his tears right now

>>110782147
Most homos are only here to try and sneak into a holo girl's DMs and get to fuck her eventually like Vesper did
Their end goal is scoring a holo gf and then running off
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>>110782107
>starved out
Yes, you dont deserve a paycheck if no one is buying what your selling. Fucking entitled mindset.
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>>110782226
The day of reckoning has arrived
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>>110782242
>NijiEN
NijiEN is dead dumb nigger. Mixed groups don't work.
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>>110782226
They were finally killed >>110780964
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April - Kronii
May - Kiara
June - Ina
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Why do redditors talk like actual LLMs
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>>110782223
>top 3 posts on it right now are all about the girls reactions KEK
it has ALWAYS been like this
fucking leeches
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>>110782242
>nijiEN
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>110782252
If only Xitter posts translated to stream views than the homos wouldn't have been in this situation at all
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>>110782282
Kiara takked about her plans for 2029 yesterday tard
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>>110782242
im a krfag and plave is NOT a male vtuber group, theyre a virtual kpop boyband that gets featured on major kpop conventions and features ex-kpop idols as other digital personas, its a WHOLE DIFFERENT MARKET
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>>110782203
Based I will support them as indies!!
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>>110782055
the ultimatum was before the homo concert, it's already over.
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We hate Kiara now???
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>>110782284
>he doesnt know
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>>110782107
sounds like Astel wasn't very fiscally responsible!
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>>110782282
Kronii is literally working on her next EP and is going back to japan this month and all the other months of this year kek
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>>110782314
Oh, the homos should try that, they will probably do well.
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EN Girls are going rogue against Cover
its actually over
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>>110782307
So did Aqua, Chloe, Fauna, Ame, Shion, Gura, Mumei, Ao and Kanata
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>>110782331
I like her new song, i hope she makes more of that genre
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>>110782306
I hate virtue signalling performative theatre retards, Kiara included
This decision by cover was long overdue
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>>110782284
Other way around, the LLMs were all trained off Reddit posts
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>>110782282
make it erb instead of kronii and shiori instead of ina and also add iofi and ollie and I will support it
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>>110782322
Kiara is based
-OP
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>>110782345
RIP cover
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>>110782345
They are literally not going to give a shit after 24 hours
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>>110782346
Link next thread
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>>110782346
You didnt watch a single JP and no, none of the EN's said that.
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>>110782345
>3 runts desperate for drama clout
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FISHMAN, now is your chance to create a Male Phase Invaders comprised of Holostars
1) Your PR will be through the roof while Covers' is in the gutter
2) Unlike Hololive, the phasefans are not unicorns and won't chimp out at 'potential' male interactions
3) You will shed yourselves of the 'chud' status by pleasing the 'left' side of Twitter who are your current antis
4) Unlike the bland HoloENs, the phase girls are unhinged just like Stars and will produce the most chaotic, crazy collabs. Easy clip farming and pathway to the mainstream audience
5) The main attraction is that you will be stealing the unityfans from HoloEN fanbase which is like 25-30% of the current EN audience.
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>>110782230
Everyone normal will. The homo "fans" never will because they remember everything negative about the homos to use to anti the girls. I've watched them do that for years.
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>>110782359
>mindbroken
nice
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>>110782107
the fuck does he mean lost all their income? from what? merch?
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>>110782391
no one wants to watch the holostars
7 years proved the market just isn't there
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>>110782386
the "runt" in question
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>>110782400
You lost bigly today, all your beloved guys are getting quietly fired
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1SMtDFxfVY
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>>110782226
Yagoo finally axed his beloved boiz
>Time to put you down my little Faggots
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>>110782386
Nimi shitmare isn't doing too hot lately
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>>110782345
>Covers reclining mutt
>A runt
>Another older runt (Who pretty much says "I'm still not collabing with them lol" in the tweet)
Oh no lol
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>>110782386
Are you sad that no one is talking about your whore, napcuck?
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>>110782242
>female demographic is easy to penetrate
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Genuine question: why remove even voice packs From a company's perspective I can somewhat understand removing merch or company-run 3D events because of the cost it takes to produce for profits that may be low. But what about voice packs? Genuinely, what high production costs do voice packs even have to suggest removing them?
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>>110782344
kpop scene is the crab bucket of crab buckets, plave only exists and is able to do such things because theyre backed by the big hats of samsung with their tech and gigamoney, those niggas barely have time to breathe, knowing how homos are lazy they wouldnt even pass auditions
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>>110782345
they should all graduate in solidarity
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>>110782442
Cover better watch out lol
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HoloID would never go down in Reine lifetime, idk why these homoniggers keep making them as the hostage
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phasefags are on our side?
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YAGOO, DISBAND ID NEXT AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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>>110782432
You Lost Tranny
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Hololive won
I'm going to have a really quick nap
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>>110782453
because management wants them fucking GONE
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>>110782423
>beloved guys
didn't know ERB, Shiori, Iofi and Ollie were men
>getting quietly fired
they aren't, the girls will continue thriving, it's just the homos getting axed
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>there's tards in here trying to turn THD into a negative
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>110782453
they are trying to make them quit without firing them
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>>110782391
Holup you are cooking, I will watch any epic unhinged Collab fishman sama cooks
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>>110782345
What all of these girls re saying is basiclaly ''life sucks but that's how showbiz is'', Mori knows this and Kiara knows this better than anybody
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Let me put it like this Nijisanji has gotten the male members multiple collabs with big brands, Multiple record deals, Anime OPs, 3D concerts. Even the EN new gen got a record deal. What has Cover done for the stars on par with that nothing they keep taking resources year after year while Niji males keep getting more. That why we are upset.
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>>110782107
>not counting someone like Astel who's in deep debts to COVER thanks to the 3D lives.
KEK, even the most mongoloid anon in this thread realized FIVE years ago that 3D Lives aren’t a vanity project but a very expensive 60 minutes infomercial whose whole purpose is to advertise merch in the final minutes in hope to recover the investment and a little profit on top
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>>110781711
is she have a normal job now or what? Doesn't her family depends on her for money and doesn't she own at least two different houses? Her attitude makes no sense.
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>>110782453
They usually hire someone to write the script for the voice packs
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>>110782493
>tranny
watch your mouth nigger
i wonnered bigly
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>>110781969
>good night
sea
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There's so much hate radiating from this thread
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>>110782486
He is just a /pol/ drama faggot looking for views
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>>110782521
Yeah but sometimes members themselves write it so that's an option too
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>>110782515
No one is upset, go spam twitter how niji should buy the homos from Cover.
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>>110782156
Kek this would still be alive had it not been for IRyS
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>>110782137
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>>110782519
Hopefully she told them to stop leeching from her, she probably has savings.
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>>110782515
Astel mentioned it already, the stars themselves are to blame
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>they actually think CC doesn't watch the homos
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>>110782107
>Astel is deep in debt to Cover
That guys family is rich apparently. I doubt he has to care that much.
Also his fault for going in the red for them.
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>>110782528
>Kronii X Fauna Forever
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>>110782514
Their first statements were fair enough but Kiara didn't really need to outright say that she disagrees with cover to build hate against them
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>>110782567
no one watches the homos thats why Cover got rid of them
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>>110782571
kek i blocked the fag posting this art
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>>110782515
Let me tell you this, we all know all of the NijiEN branch is botted to hell and that's how they look appealing to people, if you are right and think that the UMJ label thing with their new EN gen will save them then good for you, but people have a hard time forgiving a bunch of bullies who made fun of a talent they bullied into almost succeeding on killing herself.
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>>110782567
CC hates all men
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Would the homos have survived if 2022 didn't happen?
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>>110782550
Nothing stopping them from doing anything they want to do at their own individual expense is what I understand from the change
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>>110782567
She never had any interest in them even before she joined and she even found holo through the girls
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>>110782574
>but Kiara didn't really need to outright say that she disagrees with cover to build hate against them
she was getting roasted in the replies so she had to double down
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>>110782242
>while other male vtuber groups like Plave
Except they’re NOT male vtubers, they’re a virtual kpop band by their own promotional material, one created by the same producers of the likes of BLACKPINK
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>>110782453
They're clearly sending a blaring signal that they aren't welcome anymore.
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>>110782515
The stupidity is thinking those things are source of popularity when it's opposite. You only can get those when you are popular.
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so I give homoen maybe another year before they get the same press release
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>>110782216
Last I saw years ago his channel got demonetized so he made another one (evading), that got demonetized, and then he made a third. Don't know what happened after that.
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>Kiara GG collab
This has to be a weapon of mass ear destruction
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>>110782612
>She never had any interest in them even before she joined and she even found holo through the girls
Remind you of anyone?
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>>110782614
Better to say nothing than care about twitter fags
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>>110782453
It’s called banishment room. They effectively have to do everything on their own while Cover still take their cut. Why stay at that point? They want them to quit on their own
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>>110782602
LMAO
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>>110782608
Now you don't have to go to the other extreme because both are wrong
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>>110782629
starsEN is thriving
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>>110782608
even me?
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>>110782488
SHOOT THE BALL
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so they're defunding the homos and took auditions for EN5
everyone who said da boiz weren't taking resources and opportunities from the girls were so fucking wrong
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>>110782629
This is probably their last year, especially if they get nothing new going forward.
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>>110782634
Weak
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>>110782636
No since lemonleaf was following randon and other nigger like jutard's rm before joinning Hololive
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>>110782453
>Genuine question: why remove even voice packs
Anon, this is the MERCIFUL solution for them. It’s not that they’re getting everything taken from them, it is that THEY WERE ALLOWED TO KEEP SOMETHING
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>>110782653
>have to work 2 jobs to survive
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>>110782653
one of them had 60ccv before it got pointed out /here/ and management told one of them to end stream and raid him
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>>110782574
agreed, I know this is her trauma speaking and thinking she's next but she has to realize that everything will be better after they are gona and if you underperform then that's really on you. The homos had the opportunity to rise above but Omegay and their own delusions fucked them over, imgine the homos being separated from Hololvie doing their own thing, telling magni to fuck off with the OTV collabs and clique and to just stick with the Jps and Ens... THAT was the box, an acutal Holostars box being formed but they didn't had a tardwrangler but a fucking nijisis who tried to nijify HoloEN
If I was in charge of the homos I would have told them
>No Hololive collabs
>No indie begging
>No fleshies
>No politics (looking at you altare, you fucking prick)
and basically every rule the girl has and it would have been dandy, but alas
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>>110782653
hitting their lowest numbers
no events
no 3D live
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Btw, whilst we have a lot of new eyes ITT and as there are anons /here/ from towa, you should know (if you don't already) that Randon is UNIRONICALLY Nimi's fiance/husband. They've been together for 2 years.
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>>110782107
>Oboretai
Knowing this fuck, he's likely lying and overdramatizing their words
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>>110782515
lel, Nijisanji has the dubious honor of having niggers being mogged by UYU of all people. Out of the 100 or so Niji males about 90 of them are homo-tier
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>>110782727
It's true
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>>110782701
How do I get a job where I get paid to do literally nothing but sit in a room all day? Doesn't even sound that bad, if I got a phone I can do it
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>>110782728
isnt he a "trusted" homoclipper?
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>>110782629
stars fans decided to boycott cover to own the unicorns so it might be even faster
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>>110782107
>starved out
That proves they were subsidized by the girls, they were literal leeches living of the girls money.
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I don't see any bad takes coming from the best girls
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>>110782750
what does that mean, anyone who assosiates with the homos are demons looking to cause harm to good
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>>110782727
Based
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>>110782749
>Doesn't even sound that bad
You might say that but that’s because you’re fantasizing about a well paying job.
This type of strat is used in low paid office slave jobs and no, you can’t do anything outside your assigned work tasks (which is nothing) otherwise you get dinged by HR and it builds up for your “at fault” firing
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>>110782453
Google 追い出し部屋
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>>110782789
>what does that mean
Some genuinely mentally ill fag that actually watches them, I dunno how true it is that this one does that.
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Death to Phase Cucknet
Dox every Phase Whore and her nigger brown boyfriend
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THEY JUST NEEDED MORE SUPPORT
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>>110782786
irys,ina and bibs are already very drama averse so they wouldnt comment on this.
kronii has been rehabilitated and gg doesnt care about homos
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>>110782767
Imagine a football game where one team keep shooting their own goal while the other teams don't even show up for the game.
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>>110782749
>If I got a phone
That's the thing anon, you are forbidden from taking your phone out and do stuff, they restrict you from using your pc for other stuff that is not the meaningless work you're doing, People say ''Oh well I'll just play games lol!!'' but you are literally put in solitary confinment
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>>110782809
What happened to the hate marketing?
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>>110782636
>Remind you of anyone?
Actually no all the other ones connected to them have a history of interacting with them in some way
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>>110782832
SOMEONE POST THE COLLAGE!
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>>110782786
hololive gave me yellow fever
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This is all thanks to my shitposting btw
I killed the homos on my own
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>>110782809
Shiori will save her fellow countrymen
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>>110782809
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>>110782852
this but me and unironically
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>>110782786
Besides Kiara tripling down, their takes thus far have been the most inoffensive thing ever that you'd need to lower yourself to the level of a swamp monster that doesn't understand human languages to possibly misinterpret as negative
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>>110782845
kek his 2nd tweet is literally more mature than kiara feeling the need to drop opinions on it
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>Homobeggars finally seeing what happens when you don't actually support the boys
Will they learn from this or just use it to shit on the girls even harder?
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>>110782852
ernoul your posts did damage to both sides so they balance out to nothing
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>>110782540
More like basking in glory. Once again justice prevails.
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>>110782845
I worked on Shiori
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>>110782852
i was the 2 more weeks poster
you're welcome
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>>110782828
THIS! Death to homos too while at it

>>110782852
You jest but “TOTAL HOMO DEATH” caused a rip in the universe fabric and willed this outcome
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>>110782540
More like victory screech to me
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>>110782859
Lol she wouldn't give a shit if they close the branch. I dunno if that will make me watch her again though, since it means she stopped collabing with them not out of her own volition.
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>>110782851
EN5 needs a Chinese girl https://files.catbox.moe/ckl59i.mp4
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>>110779603
I feel bad for Roberu but at least he seems to have a sense of humor about the situation. Cover is definitely cutting the budget for Holostars but it doesn't sound like he is worried about whether they can stay but it will be closer to Nijisanji. The 3D will be rare and the Holostars merch will be generic merch.
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>Every cover vtuber doesn't need cover they would be huge on their own
>Homos failed because cover didn't support them
So which one is true
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>>110782750
Trusted, lol. He's purely beggar agenda driven. It's not out of his repertuar to purposely misinterpret something if it fits his goal.
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>>110782919
fuck off lignig
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lol The homobeggar comes to melt here
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>>110782916
If you think she will stop homo collabing if they leave think again
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What's /ourguy/ Donie's opinion on this yab?
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>>110782922
Why feel bad? If hes one of the only ones that did the right thing and for the most stayed away from the girls and the other homos and tried to build his own career.
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>>110782914
>You jest but “TOTAL HOMO DEATH” caused a rip in the universe fabric and willed this outcome
Isn't it from the same anon who said it was karma that Korone's SF trainer died IRL
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>>110782107
Just declared yourself bankrupt bro.
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Total beggar meltbrown what a great day
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>>110782922
why feel bad he's the only one who said nothing will change for his streams since he actually does have fans
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>>110782941
They worked for cover and were supported but still failed
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Why is Dooby pausing her membership
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>>110782922
>The 3D will be rare and the Holostars merch will be generic merch.
Anon, the underlying issue and the subtext to this is that BOTH (3D and merch) are UNPROFITABLE and that’s why it’s getting cut along with anything else that could cost money.
Why the fuck would the company engage in something that has 100% of chance of costing money without any chance to recover it? It’s a lot less time intensive just to take the same money and burn in a pit, at least it doesn’t tie up the 3D staff that can be used to make money with the girls.
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>>110782976
She hasnt collabed outside Hololive nor outside Homostars so its on you to prove otherwise.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSpAbEJlwFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSpAbEJlwFE
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>>110782134
that number comes for the best case scenario, so the only variables needed are:
>YT 30% cut (HARD CONFIRMED)
>Cover 50/50 split (confirmed multiple times by holos themselves, would be hard to justify cover getting more than this, I bet some holos could negotiate even better splits)
That's all you need to the to the 70% profit needed from merch, also that's considering an average of 100% extra cost from shipping + taxes, but in my case for my country it's 200% of the value so the final profit to match SCs would be in the 90%s.
I'll even help you, many things can make merch better, like bundling reduces the shipment cost but the fact is that it will never be better dollar for dollar than a Super chat and that's a fact.
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>>110782976
Homocollab with who
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>>110782985
kek he is quite based
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>>110783025
She's coming back now that they fired the homos
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>>110783025
She is coming back
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>>110782863
Grotesque
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>>110783025
EN5 bros!?
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The drama isn't over yet. There's more to come.
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>>110782832
y-yeah hololive was thriving because cover decided to give them all the resources while ignoring holostars... yup.. totally what happened
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>>110783060
as Ame?
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Why can NijiEN have an event TREND for days with thousands of viewers
Meanwhile Cover can’t even get their boys above a hundred sometimes
Why does Niji mog Cover so hard to this day?
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>>110782914
Except the signs have been here for a year + now with them slowly cutting off homos from official stuff
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>>110782282
>Inb4
>2 more months
Kek
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>>110782885
no they are literally making plans to not support them even harder
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Total Homo Death.
I win.
"THDschizo" what a joke you are.
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Ok but does this Holostars news hurt or help the stocks?
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>>110783040
There is one more thing there tho: different merch has different cuts and different production costs.
But for cheap to produce high cut merch (birthday and anniversary) the margins for the girls beat 35% EASILY. That’s one thing
Another thing is that most girls have a lifetime SC gross revenue of a couple hundred thousand dollars while they can move that amount of money in a single yearly cycle of bday + anniv merch meaning even if the cut were lower the bigger revenue makes up for it for them
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>>110782978
>/ourguy/
the indog was being a retarded shitposter as usual and made a bunch of posts begging for more hololive and homo collabs, retweeting doomposts about ID being next, and agreeing with people shitting on cover
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>>110782391
Phasebros will love this.
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>>110783097
Niji has literally never beaten Hololive ever.
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People that say EN ID is next are retarded
Homos have been doomposting about losing benefits for years
Meanwhile fucking ID members like Risu and Iofi have been saying that management is giving them whatever the fuck they want (within reason) these days
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>>110782919
wow she sounds like Nimi
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>>110783170
ANYA
GOT
MIKU

THESE NIGGAS ARE DOOMPOSTING ABOUT ID WHEN COVER JUST WHIPPED OUT 750K FOR THEM
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WE'RE IN THE THREAD
WATCHING THE NUMBERS RISE
WHEN THE NEWS HIT
OH WHAT A SWEET SURPRISE
ONE LESS HOMO (branch)
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>>110783139
Neither. Outside of MASSIVE fuckups like the Selen Shock, the stocks only move in any direction either based on the state of the market or based on the financial reports.
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>>110782515
All this shit with 3x the vtubers just to lost to cover revenue.
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>gigikiara
God the screaming will make my cock so hard
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>>110782885
their own oshis tell them its ok to not watch or buy merch
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>>110783031
>Hasnt collabed outside of Hololive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x1tsjBlIvA
Are you retarded or do you just dont watch her? Shiori will collab with people outside of Hololive is she wants to
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>>110783040
you’re still doing the same thing, just more confidently. you picked a split that isn’t universal, treated it like a fixed rule, then added shipping and taxes again even though that money never goes to the talent, and built your entire conclusion off that. then you call it “all you need” like it’s objective, when it’s just one simplified version of the system you decided to use. of course your math gives you that result, because you set it up that way. saying “it will never be better dollar for dollar” doesn’t prove anything either, it just shows you’re forcing everything into that one frame and ignoring everything else. that’s why this keeps looping, your conclusion is already baked into your assumption
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>>110783214
This is the only indie collab she has done in 3 years of career
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>>110783170
Those retards attacking ID are going to have no one on the homos side within 24 hours when the ID fans are the most willing to support the homos
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>>110782629
Homoenfag are boycotting cover with homojpfag as a form of solidarity
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>>110782885
>learn from this
You well know they will never learn
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>>110783025
Shien is dying anon
She needs time to grieve
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>>110783259
They're unironically turning HoloID fans into anti-homo fans purely because they have spent the last 12 hours shitting on HoloID and trying to take them hostage
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>>110783143
None of that matters and this is considering zero split from cover, how many times I have to say this is a best case scenario calculation? read again this is not considering anything on the merch side, it's a calculation of what it would NEED to be to match SCs, it need to be AT least that, and it's obvious that it's unrealistic to expect merch to be 70~90% profit from the manufacturing and other costs.
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>>110782629
>before they get the same press release
Anon, most of what their JP branch lost the EN homos NEVER HAD IN THE FIRST PLACE
Actually they got cut from it from the start, reason to which they had this ATROCIOUS outside studio doing their lives
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>>110783214
I dont watch her since the brick, but yeah I guess I must have missed this single one like this anon said >>110783232. I guess you just need her to be an irredeemable homowhore, I just dont have that kind of hate for her, just didnt understand her retarded decision in supporting them.
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>>110783214
Barely even counts, she only joined because it was a Hololive birthday.
The one time she has even mentioned vtubers outside of Holo have all been either graduated or part of the vtuber history stream she did.
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>>110782700
>following jurrard
Gross
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gigi WILL save kiara
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>>110783139
no one on the market knows what HoloStars are so they dunno if they have to buy or sell
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>Gigi and kiara were talking about katseye
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>>110783280
His tweet has 93k
He's saved!
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Welp. Bye nerissa I guess. Grad announcement in two weeks?
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None of this would've happened if Hololive didn't force the homos into the same idol stuff the girls do. They could've just been their own thing and more stream-focused. Forcing them to do the same shit meant they had to share resources with the girls who will always earn significantly more. It's not really their fault but for the sake of the girls I'm still glad to see them go.
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>>110783220
what split? can you even read, where is this split you're talking about? the 50/50? so you're arguing it's worse than that? really?
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>>110783170
The only real doomposting the IDs have is that they will never get a Nendo
ID3 (mostly Kaela) can carry the rest of the dead weights very easily
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>why did you win
Because I believe good triumphs over evil and that evil is weaker than me who is good.
>why are you not a schizo
It was three words. Total Homo Death.
You know what was schizo? Larping as a unicorn, refusing to say THD and saying things like
>homowhores like Nerissa should graduate
you know what that is called? Divine Judgement.
I literally have God on my side. Cope about that.
To reiterate; I win, I'm not a schizo and Total Homo Death.
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>>110783319
Or you know, you can watch her and learn about her to know
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>>110783341
So glad I didn't even open the stream, garbage taste
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>>110783357
Half of them bitch and moan about wanting to do the idol shit though
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Instead of begging me to support your oshi, get out your credit card and do it yourself.
As for me? I'll be buying another album or two to show my oshi my support.
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>>110783298
>need to be AT least that, and it's obvious that it's unrealistic to expect merch to be 70~90% profit from the manufacturing and other costs.
For fuck sake anon, how much do you think is the production cost for a 30 EUR rubber mat?
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>>110783361
Even at their lowest the ID girls still get more views than the Homos at their best.
The fact that the ID concert was a genuine success means they're 100% safe
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>>110782832
>holo striving and popular because cover gave them all the resources
I swear homofaggot talk like an entitled manchild, holo earn those because they are popular, even if you took all those away holofan will still watch and support them monetarily.
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>>110783341
Katseye is having their Selen Moment combined with boyfriend yabe. HoloEN surpasses another idol group
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>>110783375
Why? I just dont support homocollabers in any way, thats the best way of showing disapproval. If she ever decides to change, good, I may start watching again.
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>>110782653
please anon, April fools was 2 days ago
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GG already sexpesting.
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Was the ID concert actually good? I missed it and assumed it would've been low quality.
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>>110783357
>because of the idol stuff
No, they could've been good because of the idol stuff, thing is they were breaking it and ragging Hololive with them, that's one of the reasons they got massive hate, the market was there, the vampire grandpa and magni were killing, a FUCKING VIRAL MEME PROPPED MAGNI UP and what did they do? Nijification, something Hololive fans absolutely despise, the idol formula works but Omegay thought he could be better
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>>110783355
THD
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The truth is vtubing in general is on the decline. Selena’s graduation destroying keyfabe kneecapped the industry
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freezed eggs
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>>110783335
KEK
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>>110783446
>Selena
The TexMex singer?
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>>110783411
Need to cost 9$ to be even with SCs
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>>110783446
who?
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>>110782885
My 10yo nephew have more iq than them.
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>>110783360
im not arguing the exact split, im saying you're treating it like a fixed rule and buildin your entire conclusion off it, even if i grant you 50/50, your argument still depends on assumed margins and you keep dragging in shipping and taxes like they affect the talent’s cut when they don’t. so the issue isn’t whether it’s 50/50 or not, it’s that you picked one scenario, called it “all you need,” and turned it into a universal claim. THATS why this keeps looping, you're using one assumed setup to prove a general conclusion
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thank you god for making me a CGDCT fan
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>>110783361
That’s mostly because the upfront cost for GoodSmile to even look in the general direction of producing them (plus the time and effort spent in the production process, tying company resources for months) makes them very conservative in what projects they accept.
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>don't pull all your eggs into one basket
kiara hinting her graduation
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God loves hololive
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>>110783466
>>110783411
9$ with zero cover cut.
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Why is no one talking about the ultra orange collab?
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>>110783484
>>110783491
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I wonder if the Nijisissies are going so hard on twitter because the NijiEN bots got put on blast there yesterday
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It's going to be funny when Cover admits that Burnt Peanut exploding made them realize how utterly useless dubais are.
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>>110783494
THD discussion is occupying most anons.
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>Selena
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you couldn't pay me to watch a kiara gigi collab
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>>110783460
>>110783467
Auto correct. Doki/selen
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>>110783488
I really don't think Kiara would make it as an indie at all
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>>110783483
It doesn't like I said it only takes in consideration 3 variables.
>YT SC cut
>Cover SC cut
>Shipment/taxes cost
this is all that is needed to calculate that, and I'm using 100% for shipment which are half of what it actually is for me personally (200%)
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>>110783549
What about her? Shes a shitter now.
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>>110783466
The mat itself, for the quantities Cover runs, you can produce for under 2.50. The only additional cost is the illustration commission but that as well won’t be over 1 EUR per unit.
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>trying his shit bait still
HOMOS ARE DEAD
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me me me me me me me me me me me me
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>loud
>obnoxious
>orange
>homosisters
Gigi and Kiara have a lot in common when you think about it
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>>110783556
>>110783488
the real question is would Kiara have given up drawn to dawn in order to give the boys more support

I think we all know the answer to that...
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>people always misunderstand me
>people always misconstrue my words and actions
god kiara is actually seething
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>>110783025
>Why is Dooby pausing her membership
That is unusually sudden with zero warning from Dooby. Optimistically maybe she actually did sign the Hololive contract for Ame to return and she noticed that she had to immediately cease vtuber work on YouTube.
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>>110783494
People don't eat in a place they shit.
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>>110783586
I like this post
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>>110783488
I was hoping she'd go sometime after the 50% duolive but I guess she wants to stay for a potential sololive in 2029
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>>110783592
>when you think
i dont
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>>110783335
Kekypoo
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I love Gigi but I hate Kiara so even I won't watch this stream
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>>110783466
>>110783492
>>110783580
Notice these prices are for much lower quantities that Cover runs AND Cover is not procuring on retail but directly to the factory.
They’re not paying anything over 4 bucks a mat and you can assume acrylics will be even less expensive
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>CC mention
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>>110783629
based falseflagging homofag
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>>110783570
She killed keyfabe for the whole industry
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A toast even if this thread has become irremediable it still somehow won in the end
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>>110783672
But I don't like the homos either Kiara is just annoying
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HOMO NO PASARAN
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>>110783580
The holo merch quality isn't nearly bad enough to be 2.5$ for a rubber mat, the average price for good quality ones are in 100~200$
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>>110783562
you just proved the problem again anon. you said "this is all that is needed" and then listed shipping and taxes as one of the variables, but that money never goes to the talent, so it has nothing to do with calculating what the talent earns. you are mixing YOUR (you) personal cost with THEIR (talent) revenue and calling it "logic", and then you’re saying you’re being conservative by using 100% when your real number is 200%, which just shows you’re scaling your own expenses, not anything on the talent’s side.
your entire model is literally built on a variable that doesn't belong in the calculation in the first place. thats why your points keep breaking, your blending it with
>your total checkout
and then treating it as proof. if you remove shipping and taxes, which you SHOULD if you’re talking about what the talent earns, your whole conclusion stops being “obvious” real fast
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>>110783657
PFFFF, of course Gigi can't go one day without talking about her GIRLFRIEND, PFFFF, PFFFF

I bet Gigi misses her more than anything and texts her all the time just to hear the soft sound of her voice, PFFFF, I bet they even fall asleep together on voice call, PFFF, PFFF, I'm not JEALOUS or anything
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>>110783529
Yeah sorry but no
You guys already got exposed here too
Even twitter knows all of Holo’s support is botted nonsense
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I support Holostar rights!
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>>110783697
*wink* got it sis.
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>>110783687
I dont care about the industry just Hololive.
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why hasn't shiori made a tweet about supporting the boys yet?
As a starmin I will have to anti her if she doesn't by the end of today
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>>110783714
wtf is this post?
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>>110783720
Those

Those are fucking raids oh my God....
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>>110783713
You are retarded, I'm tired of explaining the same shit over and over again.
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If Kiara goes indie this will be her future content but in flesh
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>>110783697
yeah sis, you tell em
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What did they do to Yagoo to make this happen?
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>>110782060
This is why I at least respect him, oga, and astel since they at least DID things and reinvested their own earnings instead of demanding gibsmedats like the en homos did thanks to omegay
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>>110783720
Call me when anyone else assembles an IRL crowd this large
How do you explain this? Paid actors?
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>>110783756
Again, anon, this is the MERCIFUL option and clearly has his hand at it.
It is not that they were TAKEN EVERYTHING from, it is that they were ALLOWED TO CONTINUE EXISTING
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>>110783731
wait a few hours>>110783749
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>>110783731
THD
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>>110783720
>circling raids
hololive keeps winning because their haters are all sub 80IQ retards
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>>110783756
Not bring in money.
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>THD
THD is Total Homo Death
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Did Gigi and Kiara talk about the boys yet?
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>>110783780
I see
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>>110782832
Shit like this just reads like a skill issue, Sora made what Hololive is so why the homos don't have their own Sora?
>But now they have it easy
Do we forget the first years where holoEN got literally nothing and had to wait even for basic new outfits?
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>>110783756
Lose money for 8 years
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>>110783756
Honestly? i think the girls finally spoke up, investors can't do shit, WE can't do shit and Yagoo kept syphoning money to the homos... but I guess a bunch of them said enough is enough and that since they are making the money then it should be for them instead of subsidizing the homos, that's a lot of pressure
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>>110783735
HOMOSEETHE
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>>110783802
Absolutely. You should watch their stream. They're talking about nothing else.
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>homos axed
>new month
>Shiori ignored the announcement
I am once again going all in on the Shiori redemption arc.
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>>110783735
/vtumblr/ posting
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>>110783762
>and astel since they at least DID things and reinvested their own earnings
FOR FUCK SAKE, HE INVESTED FUCK ALL! Astel made all of those 3D lives ON A LOAN FROM THE COMPANY
>exactly like the girls
except the girls recover the WHOLE cost before the end of the live on their merch sales while he DIDN'T meaning he's in debt
>and that's why they cut his credit line, disallowing him from taking any more projects before he breaks even
If much he is even worse, it's not even that he did nothing, he contributed NEGATIVELY to the bottom line, both directly
>by costing money
and indirectly
>by tying the studio, causing both Ayame and Aqua (top earners of the company) to have to postpone their 3D lines
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>>110783731
probably crying
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>>110783748
you keep repeating the same model and calling it logic, but it still includes variables that don’t belong in the calculation. your posts are just a flailing flish out of water grasping at its own circular logic, reply when you have something to say
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>>110783720
Nijiturds everyone
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>>110783720
>nijishitter:"holo botting too guys"
Meanwhile, holo sold out multiple merchs, concert, duolive, birthday concert merch, other collaboration
>nijishitter:*cricket*
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>>110783632
These are shit quality, they are probably paying at least 15$ for that bae mat I would guess, if they were selling 5$ merch for 30$ they would be billionaires in half a year and wouldn't be half as stingy with merch choices.
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>>110783801
They're trying to defend this by the way
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>>110783840
might want to hold your chips
actions speak louder than words
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>>110783801
They pretend going from high 4view to mid/low 3view in a matter of a month natural? What a weird world to live in.
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>>110783840
Based retard
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>>110783801
Sisters are cut from the same cloth and don't want to admit their beloved groups are botted to hell and back either by the company or themselves
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>>110783870
Wut? Looks natty to me, if much a little bit in the culled side
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>>110782345
The usual homo collabers and the usual ME ME ME
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>>110783862
Because it is, you just don't get it because you're stupid, there is absolutely no question about it.
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Did Drawn to Dawn flop or not?
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>>110783876
These people are literally 18-20 years old and have never looked at a CCV graph in their life.
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I blocked Aruran and suddenly my twitterfeed was empty of seething homobeggars
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>>110783840
Based
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>>110783889
>BTS reclined
Nature is healing
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>>110783756
Homofag being an entitled cunt
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Reminder that if you've come from holotower, Nimi and Randon are together. He is unironically Nimi's fiance/husband. There's a ridiculous amount of evidence in the /vt/ archives if you want proof.
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>>110783906
you're not reading the posts past 1-3 words, are you? next time put my arguments into chatgpt instead of your negro logic so you have a chance of arguing back
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>>110783911
It beat all expectations and was praised by the big suits in Cover, Kiara said one of them went there personally to watch it, wasn't YAGOO.
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>>110783914
You dont even need to look at graphs, just the ccv in the corner should be enough. I guess its easier to stay in lalal land though.
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>>110783911
You tell me. Read this sign.
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>>110782345
This is considered going rogue? That's pretty tame
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>>110783840
"Redemption" is for holos who did it a tiny bit here and there.
Not for full blown whores who did it out of spite for months upon months, a year even now.

There is no coming back from all that, Shiori is eternally tainted.
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>>110783956
>>110783966
Wonder if this means more of these duolives in the future
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jwu (no really it's 3pm) - So they just fired every Stars member they have, no 2 weeks notice or anything? Or am I misunderstanding? If so, I didn't know companies could just axe a whole branch of people without a prior notice (cause you'd see doomposting beforehand), is it a Japanese thing?
Will they be forfeiting the models and everything too?
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>>110783987
its why I watch her
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found it funny how gigi steered kiara into not going in to the "MY WORDS ARE BEING MISUNDERSTOOD" rant on stream by sexpesting her, this chink really is something...
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>>110783987
Your mom had sex with a man with no commitment, left her while she was pregnant and thats how you exist.
Thats a whore.
Shiori is a good girl.
THD.
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>>110783749
kaned dogeza and ass shaking is shes meant to do in life
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>>110783948
Your arguments are shit and makes no sense, you can't grant the most simple logical calculation and that's all I need to know that you are too stupid to say anything of value.
I could literally tell you the sky is blue and you will deny it.
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>>110783987
>There is no coming back from all that
Ehh, you dont really get to decide that. I wont spend any money on her but might re-sub and check out a stream if she ever decides to stop collabing with them.
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>>110784007
No no, they're still in the company, they're just not getting a dime from cover for projects now and they don't get access to the 3D studio nor will they appear at the hololive expo or any other conventions anymore.
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>>110784018
Imagine the black viewers in chat
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>>110784007
They didn't fire them. They put them in banishment room.
No more studio, merch or really anything for them.
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>>110784015
Good girls wouldn't collab with the likes of Jurard, Flayon etc. every other week for a year.
Shiori is garbage.
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>>60878501
I win
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>>110784042
I won't because I'm not fucked in the head
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>>110784014
Gigi is incredibly professional and dramafree, mostly because she has seen her outside circle getting absolutely torched for the most minimal problems
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Man, Shiori not saying anything about the announcement really upset beggars huh?
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>>110783911
Ina was a huge success. Her EP ended up charting, and most of the audience were Takos
Kiara's album didn't even make top 50 of her week, which isn't too surprising since she already had the worst album in EN
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>>110783868
>if they were selling 5$ merch for 30$ they would be billionaires
Anon, they ARE billionaires (in yen). They actually breakdown the cost and the revenue coming from each side of the company and commerce (meaning merch) DWARFS the revenue coming from all "live-streaming" side (donations and ad revenue).

Here is the breakdown by area, from their report
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/3dc5c23b/fed8/4e1b/8390/7c71f67690ab/20260212151413733s.pdf

>47.3%: merch
>21.5%: donations + ad revenue + mermbership
>18.0%: events
>13.2%: partnerships
It is more than obvious that merch is the money maker both for the company and, due to sheer volume, to the girls as well.

I'll be very charitable here and assume you're just dipping your toes in this subject and weren't familiar with the numbers because these are very well known in this thread since at very least early 2022
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>>110784004
One of the questions in their survey was about whether both on both days or a total split is preferred (or something like that) so they definitely consider duo lives an option for the future
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>>110783097
The amount of delusion nijiniggers are on is staggering
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>cover: suisei how can we get more funds to support your new agency Studio STELLAR?
>suisei: lets cut some funds from the homoJP
BASED
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>>110783966
Tin boi will never get this
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>>110784014
kiara is retarded but not ID levels retarded to talk about homos with other girls who don't care about them
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This whole thing has been so fucking stupid.
>hmm hololive is popular let's try holostars
>ACK
>let's try holostars again
>ACK
>let's rebrand the holostars and try holostars again
>ACK
>let's try holostars in english
>ACK
>let's try merging the branches
>ACK
>let's try replacing hololive completely with holostars
>ACK
>let's try incentivizing hololive to collab with holostars
>ACK
>let's try making a special non-hololive hololive to collab with holostars
>ACK
>let's try hiring actual antis for holostars
>ACK
retarded
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>>110784090
For holos who aren't quite worth a full sololive but at least half a live. It's a nice compromise.
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>>110784014
Gigi has had no drama at all she's good at avoiding it by just not saying anything at all and no the asexual thing wasn't drama
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>>110784078
She doesnt know a single of the JP ones, although if she does say something, it should confirm this affects the EN homos as well.
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>>110784078
What CAN she even say? She started homocollabing because management asked her the favor and now management is cutting the Homos off

If one day management tells her
>Hey bish, stop collabing with Homos and start doing GFE ASMR streams
She will. She is a member of Advent.
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>>110784056
>every other week for a year
classic beggar delusion, always have to add lies even if they have something
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>>110783363
Myron won because he had the power of god on his side. He started that tweet with
>in the name of the good lord
Now homos are gone. God smited homos because Myron prayed for it to happen. It's called divine intervention
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>>110784042
Imagine having a blacked fetish
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>>110784118
But she is retarded enough to dump her problems on them
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>>110784029
i’ve already explained why mixing your total cost with the talent’s revenue doesn’t isolate what they actually earn, and you haven’t addressed that once, actually, instead of arguing ANYTHING you circle back to
>"W-WHAT? I DONT GET THIS. YOU'RE DUMB."
you're repeating the same model and calling it obvious, at this point you're not defending your point, you're just asserting it. put this into chatgpt and generate a response, since this is the only way you can handle yourself in an argument
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A TRUE HOLOLIVE FAN NEVER SPEAKS OF HOLOSTARS
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>>110784167
I haven't been a hololive fan since 2023 because of holostars
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>>110784167
BAUSED
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So the Homos are dead?
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>>110783629
Based. I skipped sts because of that too
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>>110784154
reminder that I started Total Homo Death because of this larp you're doing right now.
Only real unicorns understand.
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>>110784151
Oh sorry it's much better because sometimes she would go three weeks without such a collab, that definitely means she's awesome and worth supporting.
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xitter is a war zone
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Homofaggots completely BTFO
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that location low key looked like Aushwitz
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>>110784165
I like how I can tell all this Kiara posting is one guy because that one Kiara tweet thread on catalog stopped being on page one after the Kiara seethe mysteriously died down here
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Mori
Kiara
Bae
Nerissa
Shiori
Erb
Gigi

Graduate all these homo sis! Clean up the cancer in hololive.

Graduate the entire homos
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>>110784165
You've never had a friend?
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>last year, Ame is resurrected on Easter like Jesus
>this year, homos are kill for Easter weekend

Easter has been pretty based for Hololive
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>>110784123
true male vtubers haven't been tried yet
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>>110784154
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>>110783426
who had a boyfriend?
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>>110784224
Show me some good posts.
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>kiara: how do you get off
>Gigi: I'm using my controller
Gigi masturbates with controller confirmed
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EN5 when
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>>110784157
In Kiara's case it's not even a fetish, it's more like KFP preparation for her old habits to resurface.
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>>110784274
dumb shonen protag gremlin
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>>110784221
>that definitely means she's awesome and worth supporting
No, but it sounds like you dont want her to change, if you have to make up shit.
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>>110784221
I'm nta idc what she does, just telling you that no one takes you guy's posts seriously because you're all retarded and lie all the time
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>>110784039
Ahh okay, thank you. So if they wanted to do something like 3D's or merch, they'd have to come out of pocket for it? Seems reasonable to me. The way everyone was speaking on this I thought the homos were GONE GONE, but them just cutting support - I can see being just another smart business move.
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>Cover
>"killing" males to save face
meanwhile, im@s on its brand new official eigo account...
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>>110784267
NT but go to jutard's statement, EVERYONE is blaming cover and the girls, how they never supported Holostars form ths start, nevermind all the shit they did to prop them up
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>>110784274
why is every single gigi interact with others a sexpesting. jesus christ
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STOP LEAKING
https://x.com/i/status/2040103483756749222
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>>110784224
Helmir is going beast mode
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>>110784081
this is such a blatant fucking lie
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>>110783844
Oh it's the Aqua studio schizo.
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>>110784324
Link?
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is this just little nightmares
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>>110784306
No holos and homos already had to pay for all the stuff cover can't provide (choreographers, dance teachers, etc)
They're not getting access to the studio period
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>>110783530
The homos are for appealing to fujos.
The botted peanut is closer to Pewdiepie than to a vtuber. His streams are just Arc Raiders 24x7 and appeal to extraction shooter normie /v/ermin. No stinky disgusting fujoshi is gooning to peanut playing this year's PUBG clone and the company wouldn't get ESG DEI woke credit for streaming to greasy gamer males anyway.
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Why the fuck does she keep calling her Ghee ghee?
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>>110784327
Shut up nigga she's expertfully defusing the situation

Let her sexpest it's unironically saving Kiara's career
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JUST SAW THE NEWS GAIS

THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-5kAK7vRUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-5kAK7vRUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-5kAK7vRUU
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>>110784301
I don't care at this point because I would never support her anyway, true. The damage is done, no coming back from this many collabs and handling the change that way

It was different with Mumei for example because it was just one group collab where she barely said a thing and that's it
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>>110784339
>Holofes is a lie
we know
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>>110784362
>The homos are for appealing to fujos.
THEY'RE DOGSHIT AT IT
THEY DON'T APPEAL TO ANYONE EXCEPT YAGOO
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>>110784306
They're as good as dead
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>>110784339
Numbers thread. Maybe global is more your speed?
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>>110782863
Dude really just made a meme based on the unicorn perspective yeah, totally accurate.
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>>110784306
Cover won't accept out of pocket, they have been BANNED from
>3D Lives
>Covers
>Merch
>Servers (meaning box games like Minecraft)
Anything that isn't the most basic 2017-style game streaming. It's a fate worse than death
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>>110784324
>HoloAnti talent has HoloAnti audience
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>>110784353
Yeah it's a spiritual successor to it since the dev doesn't own the rights to Little Nightmares
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>>110784396
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>>110784368
what situation stop being a retard no one gives a shit about xwitterfags
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>>110783530
>Cover admits that
Where?
>Burnt Peanut exploding
botted to hell
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>>110784410
Was this really better than spinning them off into Starmin Production with some startup capital from Yagoo's bank account? Why aren't people mad at him instead of Kiara?
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>>110784396
People who dont stream are irrelevant
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>>110784241
Nice try sister, total homo death, total holo love!
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>>110784241
I think this thread should will in to existence your death.
preferably from a funny but painful cause, like run over by a bus
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>>110784313
lel, they're four years behind Cover in making the same mistakes

>>110784341
Not really, I'm a run of the mill unnamed (but very persistent) holostars anti
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>>110784451
Because in the eyes of beggars, if the girls collabed with them regularly and destroyed the walled garden then all of us would realize that mixed collabs are kino and women doing their own thing is incel pandering, that's unironically their fuckign logic, I wish i was making that shit up
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>>110784368
Yeah because every other Kiaraschizo timeloop yab on this board has ended Kiara's carreer 10 times over
This time for sure it will end her carreer for the eleventh time now that this board is quasi dead
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>>110784333
holy kek
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kronii celebrating THD
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Now see all the channel that do shit like
>/vt/ reacts to X
Avoid another unicorn win the same way they avoided the day Vesper and Magni graduated
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>>110784333
kek
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I'm looping WAY 2 U while reading all the shitting and seething from homoniggers
What a funny day



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