Spooky, isn't it, that constantly trying to harass a girl to suicide is actually... le bad.

Any lore on the Claire cover song? I usually only visit the holy sister to climax, I sadly know nothing about her music

>>110945680
It's been lost in all the shitting on Nijisanji but Selen really did fuck up majorly. She didn't need to get terminated but she pretty much forced their hand by being menhera. And somehow everyone blamed Nijisanji. Fucked up shit.

>>110945680
>paying artists out of her own pocket because management refused to pay them for months
>issues with other talents (the clique) that management refused to step up and intervene (elira was pulling the strings)
>only friend leaves after being blocked from work opportunities herself (elira most likely not wishing to be outshone)
Kurosanji removing the video was the last straw, there was no other way it could have ended.

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There's been like 5 million covers of this song so I don't know how you can still get it wrong

>>110945680
It was the last straw, not the only issue. Anycolor never actually gave any legitimate reason they took down the video.

>>110945758
It's not been lost, but you are happily pretending that and rewrite history as it suits you.
Anycolor management fucked up hard, didn't communicate with people, dropped every possible ball and behaved extremely unprofessional in regards to Selens cover. This was independently confirmed by every third party involved in the cover.
And it's far from the only time Anycolor management did their best to disappoint the organs, just look at the Pomu wing desaster.

>>110945680
If Doki waited for them to greenlight uploading the video again, she would still wait to this day.

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>>110945680
it's ridiculous how many times I've seen the same message from many talents and there are no guidelines for the unpaid interns to follow to prevent this

>>110945857
Pomu finished her debut MV like a day before her graduation....

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>>110945902
>>110945978
Rikus bukkake princess.

>>110946038
Management staff relief duty whenever she's in Japan

>>110945680
Of course a japshit corposlave is better at taking it up the ass.

Even if Selen took the apologetic route, another situation would have delayed the inevitable. Hell, the worst case scenario may have actually happened. NijiEN was a ticking time bomb and their downfall was inevitable when left as is.

>>110945838
I hope someone saved the original so they can compare

>>110945758
NIJISEETHE

>>110945680
Nah, some other shit will happen eventually, because the most damaging thing to NijiEN's reputation isn't what Selen did or was planning to do, it's the fucking Black Stream. If the people in charge of NijiEN are still the same, other incidents similar to the Black Stream will still happen eventually.

>>110945680
Black screen stream is what killed NijiEN.

>>110945680
Thank God she didn't. Nijisanji's death made the EN vtuber scene a lot better.

>>110946541
pretty much this. It was a yab, but they would have gotten over it. Corpo using talents to save their image is what irreversibly destroyed it.

>>110945758
Her getting terminated wasn't the problem. It was the way Anycolor terminated her that was the problem. There was no need for the laundry list of reasons for terminating her, there was no need for the black stream, etc. All they had to do was put up a single page document with the sole reason being "repeated violations of contract" and left it at that. There was no need to make a spectacle of her being fired.

>>110945758
you stick out too much, millie

>>110945758
It all literally started because some niji intern got assblasted because Doki tweeted "Management took down the cover" instead of a writing a 500 word essay apologizing in behalf of management, and it only got worse from there with niji management fucking up at every step.

>>110945758
Yeah. When niji kept cancelling most of her projects, she should have just stfu and streamed apex alone
When niji refused to pay contractors hired for selen's projects, she should have just ignored them instead of paying them out of her own pocket
When niji constantly harassed her and kept pitting her against her colleagues she should have just accepted it and quit.
When niji refused to let her quit she should have been better at committing suicide.
When niji threatened her with legal action and terminated her, should again have been better at committing suicide.
When niji found out that she has attempted suicide twice and put out the black stream in a desperate attempt to try to get her to try killing herself again, she should have, once again, just been better at committing suicide.

>>110947105
All they had to do was publicly suspend her for telling people to reupload the song and let her graduate as she requested, but noooo they had to go the Zaion route and try to make her look like she was worse than Hitler when terminating her. All because they knew she had dirt on the clique and were afraid she would go public with it at some point, so they needed to primitively destroy her reputation and get control of the narrative.

>>110945758
You tell them sis!

>>110945857
They got cocky since they succeeded with zaion

>>110948235
Narcissist's prayer, niji edition

>>110945680
Their fault for hiring her in the first place
What did they get selen, rosemi, and petra?
Holy shit imagine making that wave should have just launched proto-krisis

>>110945758
well that was the point
she wanted to leave and it was intentional

>>110945680
It's easier to lick the boot than try to move your head from underneath it, not really impressed when Nijiniggs like to be treated like slaves kek

>>110945680
Niji's determination to bury Selen after she left was their downfall. Black screen and tons of yabs from the alleged bully group after.

>>110945680
I'm still confused at what possessed them to not put out a simple termination notice saying she was terminated for violating her contract. Like that's all they needed to do and let people be upset at management instead they paint a target on the organs back and then the black screen was them shooting themselves in the face. Like who approved this????

>>110948790
Because they knew she had evidence of all the bullying, favoritism and mismanagement in NijiEN and were afraid she was going to make it public, which is why they tried to character assassinate her and the specific choice of words in the termination of how "She claimed that she was no longer able to engage in her activities as a Liver due to the decisions made by ANYCOLOR, was being harassed by other affiliated Livers due to mismanagement, while refusing to acknowledge her responsibility for violating the Activity Rules".

>>110945732
It was an April's fools cover of her singing that mesugaki song. Claire hired kanikama-sensei that horny bastard for the MV. Since the cover video was outright deleted and not privated, the current speculation is that her channel got community striked for lewd content, so the 'adjustments' mentioned will be mostly about toning down certain illustrations in the video.

>>110947105
>There was no need for the laundry list of reasons for terminating her
Clearly there was if retards still don't think she deserved to get fired
>there was no need for the black stream
Clearly there was if she decided to threaten to sue and/or dox them

>NOOOO DON'T BE TRANSPARENT MY FEELINGS CAN'T HANDLE IT
lol

>>110948235
>When niji kept cancelling most of her projects
Didn't happen
>When niji refused to pay contractors hired for selen's projects
She was supposed to pay them. It's been proven non stop. Even as an indie, she doesn't pay her workers. lmao
>When niji constantly harassed her
Your manager telling you to do your job isn't harassment
>kept pitting her against her colleagues
coworkers being upset at you being a drama merchant would be your own fault
>When niji refused to let her quit
Didn't happen. She wanted a graduation. It's been proven people can quit whenever the fuck they want
>When niji threatened her with legal action and terminated her
Are you completely braindead? She threatened them with legal action and threatened to release a doxx document attacking other NijiEN members
>How dare you release a video defending yourself? You're gonna make the suicidal baby kill herself some more
KEK

>>110945758
BPD is like that usually

>>110945680
NIJISEETHE
and fuck this Cleaire person too
next time buy an ad

>>110949661
>>110949744
>>110949762
hello there, dokishizo

>>110945680
Yes. I am grateful things played out the way they did. It is like the American civil war allowing the end of slavery. A cataclysmic reckoning was needed where a more superficial solution would have left the underlying problems to fester. Likewise, the Selen crisis forced a reckoning over Nijisanji's business practices, exposed them for who they really are, and allowed Dokibird to go on and reclaim everything that the company had denied her all these years.

As a wise man once said, never let a good crisis go to waste.

>>110949845
>Everyone who acknowledges the bpd bitch that got disowned by her family is liar must be the same person
KEK

>>110949871
>bpd
>KEK (all caps)
Not really helping your case, dokishizo

inb4 "fagoon"

>>110949871
Nta but you don't even attempt to alter your posting style; it's very obviously you every time. What I don't get is why you're still making/engaging in doki bait threads - pretty sure it's long past the time when you'd get many (You)s by doing so.

>>110945758
That's just what being drama obsessed does to monkeys. Even if she had handled it like this, people would have still tried to make Nijisanji the bad person. Dramafags don't know how to form their own thoughts and opinions.

>>110950040
NTA but sometimes I falseflag as dokischizo, but whenever I do it, I go out of my way to portray her as some sort of dark lord mastermind type who used her palpatine-like manipulative abilities to destroy her old corpo out of spite and now seeks to remake all of EN vtubing in her image. Sometimes I'll even throw in wild schizo conspiracy theories like the nyfco-style talk of secret doxxcord servers or dragoons offing would-be leakers, mafia-style.

The funniest thing is that some people actually will post in agreement with me, and I genuinely can't tell if they are fellow falseflaggers. Those people are my real target: I want to feed on their seethe but first modify it so that it presupposes Dokibird as someone powerful and "winning," thus building her up rather than tearing her down.

>>110950031
>The fagoon unironically believes only a single person has been saying fagoon for the last 6 years
>>110950040
>The fagoon thinks pointing out someone has BPD is a "posting style"
Haven't used this board in months. Rent free

>>110950409
Sure thing bro.

>>110950131
You're a pathetic piece of flesh

>>110945758
>Manager fucks up
>Gets perms too late
>Doesn't communicate about the deadline with the talent
>Just posts some vague bullshit with no clear instruction or anything
Nah nigger it just showed that Nijisanji is a fucking farce of a company that cannot even handle basic business communication at the lowest possible level of competence. You have to be completely fucking retarded to think any of that is on the talent.

Whole reason management exists is to tardwrangle, you can't then turn around and go "w-w-ell t-the tallent is a t-tard?!" as if that excuses the fact that you failed at your most basic fucking function.

>>110949661
there literally was not any need to discredit. more damage is done by doing the corporate silent dismissal and being factual. The fact that niji management got baited by /vt/ says it all really how they were always going to over react.

I seriously want to know who the fuck thought all this dogshit was a good idea. Who deserves to get merc'd for this? Elira and co or management? Ike said a bit but not nearly enough. I want to know who lied to who and what was said. It's fucking disgusting that anyone can get away with this shit.

>>110951839
Riku we told you it was Noor

>>110949531
I hate Kanikama passionately and wish him nothing but the worst

>>110951059
Management literally said to wait while they checked something internally.
Selen ignored them and posted it anyway.
Management took it down and told her to WAIT.
Selen ignored them and put it back up.
Management took it down again, then Selen had her emotional outburst.

>>110952960
If that's where it ended, NijiEN might have lived.

>>110953194
Correct, Nijisanji fucked up with how the termination and black screen stream were handled. Doesn't mean Selen wasn't in the wrong in the cover fiasco.

>>110953249
Sure. If that's all they cited, it would've been fine for them.
Granted, whether or not they ACTUALLY would've ever released the cover is another story, but that would've been a perfectly valid reason to let her go.
Drumming up the charges and making everything so ridiculous really blew up in their faces

>almost killed herself
You know now that I think of it, recently I was kicked out of a vtuber's chat for getting too hammered and calling her a cunt who sucks at videogames and her chatters annoying simps. And then I deleted that account, because it's just a random account I made tied to nothing important.

This makes me realize I've never taken any kind of drama or whatever seriously, these aren't real people to me. And if you don't want hecklers, just work a real job instead of e-grifting. Why is there even a billion dollar company dedicated to milking simps lol. All of this has become very stupid.

>>110945758
Shut up flip woman

>>110953344
>And if you don't want hecklers, just work a real job instead of e-grifting.
This is silly because you can apply this logic in particular to any front-facing job.
Don't want druggies/teens/retards coming in and fucking up your store/lobby/business? Just change careers lol

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>>110953344
>The elbows of this anon

>>110951880
Pretty sure Noor left shortly Niji after their hired Harry Igarashi as NijiEN director a year before the Selen Shock

No one cares about this

>>110956407
The same thing happens to Holos and every other corpo. Perms are an issue everywhere

>>110945758
What's with all the seethe responses to this post? It's not even wrong. You can assign however much fault to Selen that you want but objectively if she behaved differently she would still be here.

>>110948790
And they scheduled the black stream during her first gaming stream. It just made them a cartoonish villain.

>>110961144
Which is even more bizarre! Like why wait till her first gaming stream if they were supposedly worried about her going scorched earth on them when she could have done it in the what 2-3 streams that happened before that? Especially since the the black screen was obviously recorded in advance.

>>110960838
She forced their hand, sure, but not in a way that would make them shoot their own foot off and destroy whatever was left. The action she forced would've been a simple "due to creative differences/her tweet about pirating nijisanji IP, we're letting her go) message, not all the hilarious nonsense they tried to pull alongside and after it.
It's disingenuous to blame anybody but Nijisanji for their own death, and had they responded differently to Selen's actions, they would've survived.

>>110945680
What makes NijiEN so great that it's worth saving anyway. Don't tell me that so you can spam da wose for the 1000th time.

>>110961242
Because, contrary to the shitposting here on /vt/, they likely didn't schedule it to overlap her, otherwise they could have done it during her earlier streams, not waited until later.
They scheduled it for 8PM primetime in US-East, to ensure they would have the west's eyes on it. This is also around the time Elira normally started streams (6PM to 9PM ET).
And why care so much about "first gaming stream" anyway? Would it have been OK if they scheduled it during her first return stream? What about her monetization stream? What about first zatsudan? Why so much offense to it being the first gaming stream?

Don't get me wrong, the way they fired Selen and the sheer existence of the black screen stream was a fucking retarded decision and signed NijiEN's death certificate, but this board has tried to force so much schizo shit just for the sake of trying to add to the list.

>>110960838
Did you get dropped on your head as a baby? No one is taking issue with the "if she'd just bent the knee like a good little corporate drone she'd still be with Nijisanji" point, a retard could tell you that. They're taking issue with the idea that in the scenario where the company displayed excessive incompetence and the talent crashed out over said incompetence it was somehow the talent who fucked up "majorly", despite the company continuing to demonstrate their incompetence by stepping on a rake at literally every subsequent pain point in the entire shitshow.

>>110962134
>otherwise they could have done it during her earlier streams, not waited until later.
They couldn't have. That gaming stream was Doki's very first scheduled stream. All the others had maybe an hour to half an hour of warning, but that one she announced days in advance in an attempt to start up a weekly schedule/routine again.
On top of this, Niji's stream wasn't scheduled for that time. It was announced a few hours prior, and then delayed shortly after Doki announced her own delay so that they would match and everyone at the time noticed this.
The likely reason the timing mattered was because this would be the very first time they'd be able to catch her on stream and force her to react without being able to first consult her lawyer for a preapproved statement, potentially opening her up to saying something stupid on camera and discrediting her, which she very nearly did.

what kind of two-bit operation are they running over at Niji?

>>110945680
Not fair she's a beautiful sexy nun

>>110945680
nah, Selen was well and truly negligible. She doesnt matter, and never did. Pomu mattered. Pomu leaving sent things down the train, all Selen did was speed it up a little. We'd be in the same position now either way.

>>110963044
*drain, I wish there was Pomu train though

>>110962380
>They couldn't have. That gaming stream was Doki's very first scheduled stream. All the others had maybe an hour to half an hour of warning, but that one she announced days in advance in an attempt to start up a weekly schedule/routine again.
Her return stream waiting room was put up 3 days ahead of time. (>>68255009)
Her Chinese New year stream waiting room was put up 8.5hrs ahead of time. (https://x.com/dokibird/status/1756355801046736921)
>On top of this, Niji's stream wasn't scheduled for that time. It was announced a few hours prior, and then delayed shortly after Doki announced her own delay so that they would match and everyone at the time noticed this.
The BSS waiting room went up at 7:35PM ET (>>68861517), and went live at 8PM ET (https://www.vstats.jp/video/o65VwnQvWW4). Doki's stream was not delayed, it went live at 8PM ET (https://www.vstats.jp/video/A1YCUbQOJB0) just like it was listed on her schedule (https://x.com/dokibird/status/1756948500728676618)

>>110946304
>Hell, the worst case scenario may have actually happened
BPDbird's parents would have come and "saved" her again, before she throws them out in another BPD rage?

>>110963018
>Her return stream waiting room was put up 3 days ahead of time..
And at that point the actual severity of the backlash had not developed yet. The gaming stream, however, happened a week after the first wave of backlash and they had days to prepare.
The actual stream start for Doki's stream is also not entirely accurate as she did spend extra time preparing her stream, the difference of which which was easy to see when they were both live.
I won't be responding further though because I really don't want to trudge back through all of those old tweets again. It was a horrible event and I'm glad it's years behind us now.

>>110945680
I think we can also agree that if Sister Claire isn't a Japanese who lives in Japan she would've reacted exactly like Selen.
She only reacted like that because she's still in the firing range of Niji lawyers who can exploit Japan laws into their favor.

I see we have a bunch of historians on here
can someone give me the QRD on how 39daph was somehow involved? there was a recent thing too

>>110945680
Sure, but on the other hand, had Niji management dealt with Selen better, NijiEN would probably stll be alive today. Selen didn't try to kill herself because her video got taken down.

>>110963647
>can someone give me the QRD on how 39daph was somehow involved?
One day she just typed a bunch of shit on her stream chat about how she had insider knowledge about how Selen was wrong and shit.
It's assumed that she got her information from Kyo, who was her only real contact within NijiEN and was also known for being a retarded dramafag desperately trying to clout chase.
She had no real relevance but she was preaching to her audience that she did.
As for the recent thing, idk but she was a retard again.

>>110963715
>Selen didn't try to kill herself because her video got taken down
Yes, she quite literally did

>>110963715
She didn't try to kill herself JUST because the video got taken down. It's just the thing that finally broke her

>>110962134
Just like how they padded Zaion's and Selen's list you could say

>>110950131
You're based
Keep fighting the good fight

>>110965599
She literally did, she is mentally ill, it's okay to admit she didn't fit with corpos life. She was one of the most privilege nijien livers but you fuckers sleep on that fact.

>>110963647
She said that Selen wasn't telling the truth. And she wasn't. Dramafags attacked her anyways

>>110965728
probably because the privilege of EN is worth less than what she was able to get on her own.
Pretty funny in hindsight.

>>110963497
>If Sister Claire was a mentally ill and immature Canadian BPD princess, she'd have tried to killed herself over a video too
Not the argument you want to make

>>110965879
You mean she got everything she has now because she was in Niji and pity grifted over being in Niji

The only thing she was able to earn on her own was her parents disowning her and the entire twitch community hating her

>>110945758
>>110945680
Selen wanted to get fired because Pomu was quitting so she decided to make a super big deal out of it and try to do shit she knew would get her fired.
You don't find it suspicious at all how it happened only a few days before Pomu's graduation was announced?

>>110965984
Girl, if that were the case the other nijiENs would have been able to even resemble her accomplishments.
After all, they stayed in NijiEN far longer than she did, taking in all the advantages Niji could give them.

>>110966095
What other Niji got fired then "attempted suicide" over it?

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>>110966134
Dunno, but there's a few dozen who stayed and yet still couldn't replicate her success even with the full force of the corpo behind them

>>110966095
she tried to apply for twitch partner for years and was rejected every time. it was only after getting the spotlight in niji that twitch handed her twitch partner for free.

>>110966199
I don't think living in a box and losing your friends and family is considered a success in most parts of the world but maybe it's different in SEA

The only good Niji is a dead Niji

>>110966210
That's showbiz, baby!
Being a springboard is all that shitty corpo's worth.
Basically the McDonalds of vtubing

>>110966199
Because they didn't suicide bait like selen. How about zaion? Well she said she attempted after it worked when selen said it first.

Her success was coming from internet social point and now it's running out. She also a typical someone who never keeps her own words, what happened to the vtubing unity goals she had before?

you can find it on bilibili

>>110946654
There is no more en vtubing scene

>>110964904
She did it after she got harassed by NijiEN management and "livers" for complaining about her vid being taken down

>>110966223
It's a job. Making more money than most of your peers in the same field is considered more successful in most parts of the world. Being more loved is the icing on top, too

>>110945758
did you check with manesan (me) before posting this?

>people actually believe women when they talk about attempting suicide
How can you be so retarded?

>>110945758
There was an entire two years prior to Selengate of management shitting on NijiEN and fucking them over at every point. The Selen situation was the culmination of all of that peaking at them trying to bully a suicidal girl they'd already fired.

>>110968783
>Bully
Just admit your oshi is a pussy with a fragile ego. Everyone can be suicidal, doesn't make calling the BPD princess a cunt a bad thing

>>110945758
Trying to rewrite history doesn't work when its on a board full of autists who committed that shit to memory ãñõñ~

>>110968904
Admitting you're autistic and a proud liar isn't a win

>>110968783
Nijien management are incompetence, but you also believing every lies selen said on her prechat vents, especially how she been feeding her fans to hate management and build an ultimate victim image.

She lied about management banned her from hosting tournament, because she hosted a holoniji apex custom later on the same year with her manager help and support. Lied about the outfit competition regulations. Lied about lack of opportunity when she was on multiple theme merchs, audio drama, cafe collab, and 3rd party collab. On top of that, she was the first niji en that got 3.0 brush up and had many new outfits compared to lazulight girls & luxiem at that time.

She also part of 2022 nijifes and not everyone in nijisanji have a chance to be part of the event.

Then one year later you watched her going menhera after 2023 nijifes event especially on christmas eve just because she was asked to wait by her manager.

>>110968767
Having photo proof helped unless you believed that her hospital was in it with her

>>110966293
>Well she said she attempted after it worked when selen said it first.
Note how she only mentioned it once in passing because she didn't want to make a big deal out of it

Bitch is so fat the rope snapped lol

>>110945758
>Reasonable guy Niji route
Attempted suicide is a point of no return working relation-wise and a major PR bomb in the West. So let's soft-terminate her with mild wordings and keep the archive alive as a gesture of good will. Both sides separate amicably.
>Clingy menhera Niji route
Let's harass her during the ordeal. Let's draw out the negotiation. Let's set the co-workers against her in the meantime, then character-assasinate her in the surprise termination message as a final fuck-you. See the community pushback, and try to character-assasinate her again, this time with her co-workers. People don't buy that shit, and begin digging up. People figure out the power structure and who the real management had been all this time. So you fade into irrelevance, but even years after you act like a clingy menhera that blames anyone but herself.

No matter your thoughts on all parties involved, I think we can all agree that if Elira/Nova hadn't try to kill Selen then NijiEN would probably still be alive today

>>110970230
Elira could have just done a better job and made sure that Selen does more than swallow a couple aspirin.

>>110945680
In that case: Thanks for killing off NijiEN, Selen!

how can nijisissies still defend their failing branch in the big '26?

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>>110968919
>>110969407
sisters... the red ratard wanted her to do a naked dogeza before she was sent to the firing squad, she was already terminated after she posted the video.
just because your misinformed on the latest information doesnt make us liars, her channel was instantly deleted after she posted the MV and i have no doubt she was trying so hard to get management approval. but they fucking banished her videos instead. if she rebelled and refused, it would've made sense to just delete the MV instead. not her whole content.

her ass was already in GREAT STALIN's death list whether she posted the video or not. they just needed to find an excuse

The only thing in this story (besides the degree of Rosemi's involvement) which is still unclear to me, is the source of the rift between Elira and Selen. I don't buy personalities clash for a second, Selen/Doki has demonstrated the ability to vibe with pretty much anyone over these years. So my best guess is that there was a push to give Selen's sister-model to one of Elira's "besties", and that didn't go well.

>>110969485
I know that women cut themselves a lot, that doesn't mean they tried suicide.
You know how many fat goth chicks cut themselves for fun in high school or even middle school? More than half of their population.

>>110970940
Kill yourself

>>110971046
Sorry I'm such a failure, anon. I can't even accomplish that.

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>>110970940
It's not just cutting herself, but the photo of her being inside a hospital, with a "special attention" / "close monitoring" color-coded wristband. That's why anons were guessing that she attempted to kill herself long before she said it.

>>110970841
Vox is evil
Elira is evil

Dokibird is the kindest vtuber in the world, she love to talk shit her teammate when they were underperformed, she often went solo queue whenever her team on lose streak in the middle of the match and make the host waiting for her to start a new match.

I love the toxic gamer girl icon. She definitely got bullied by nijien members.

Doki"i won't be silenced anymore"bird.

>>110950040
the resident Dokifags are more insufferable than this guy.

for anyone who doesn't get it, what's bad isn't that Doki lied about her suicide attempt, but that she didn't: she used it for pity points and cheap drama. it's undignified. if you go by >>110970841, for instance, Niji is bad enough that she didn't need to do that.

>>110971533
If you're Rosemifag, there's a reason both Mint and Doki memoryholed her like Reimu, despite Matara's attempts to parley. There's a story there, but it's more like idle curiosity for me at this point.

>>110971731
This but unironically. She's proved multiple times that she's a bad person without any push.

>>110945721
>harass a girl to suicide is bad
Tsk, snowflake generation, am I right?
t. Nijisanji

>>110970841
I don't think you actually paid attention when the event happened. I think you shared a fake leak and shared misinformation of the event.

She posted a cover, management took it down, she shared her disappointment and asked her fans to shared the content, Millie asked if she checked the perms, fans mad at anycolor & send a report, anycolor replied the report, they said they will check her cover & they will up the video when they finished. She went radio silent, fans speculated she got suspended because this wasn't the first time she acted up against management.

Suddenly posted a pic of her wrist on dokibird account, fans assumed she attempted. Her fans got worried, anycolor announced she won't appear on hopconcert, the reason was they can't contact her. They got more worried and assumed anycolor silenced her, her fans started a tag called #WhereisSelen, her friends RPR said he also can't contact her & worried, even though someone shared her apex account activities on anonymous board.

after one month anycolor announced selen's contract termination and they also deleted all her content, the reason was because she "threatened" them with a legal doc of mismanagement and bullying accusations. Doki's made her own statement and said the accusation was true without any evidence, she said the company refused her departure and promised to gave more evidences, black stream happened on her comeback stream, she admitted her wrongdoing but she double down with "i attempted twice cards and my dad was crying for the first time", then she asked her fans to be kind and move on. But nijien lost in PR battles because selen use suicide cards. She gained popularity and nijien lost many opportunities. Now we are here.

>>110945758
trvke

>>110972503
>be mostly truthful in first paragraphs
>spew bullshit in the last one
good try

>>110972610
Lol, she only made a statement without any evidence, promise to provide more information and evidence but she never did it. Then black stream happened on her comeback stream, she admitted that she recorded vox secretly and shared canadian niji en members addressed on her legal doc but she countered it with en members read her personal information on the legal doc without her permission, mind you the same document she put nijien members information without their consent :)

She also said she attempted twice and her father was crying for the first time, but the only side who provided evidence were nijisanji. They have the screenshot of her chats with her manager when her manager asked her to wait.

>>110970890
>the source of the rift between Elira and Selen
Enna and Millie. They are the ones that started bullying others in the branch behind the scenes. Elira took their side, simple as.

Did this thread get linked in /nijien/?

>>110972976
Bro, I'm on mobile on don't care enough to correct you every second sentence. But your "legal doc" was first brought up by niji themselves in the black stream.

>>110954869
Igarashi was head of the EN talent management, not director of the branch. The position of EN director has been empty for over two years now.

>>110973181
They were brought by niji on her termination letter, if you actually read the letter. Not reading the information from here or dramatubers

>>110973245
Well, then you can surely post a screenshot of that tweet here with relevant highlight.

>>110945758
Kill yourself bint

>>110945680
Why, are there a dozen rapists harassing Sister Claire too?

>>110972503
>>110972976
>>110973245
assuming the discord leak is correct, no one knew about the legal document when Doki made the “I was hospitalized” post. the legal document only became public after she was terminated and the company then tried to save face by explaining the reason for her termination.
when they actually terminated her she went all out and said she had been bullied
it wouldnt have made sense if selen didnt include the “I got bullied” line in the “hospitalization” tweet if she actually wanted to destroy niji. or if she planned to be terminated.

also im pretty sure the legal doc can easily be handled behind the scenes, especially if you "take your talents concerns and safety seriously" it was not a document to sue, it was a complaint. AFTER she was hospitalized.

if your ass was being bullied, you would at least press legal action and not fight the bullies like your in high school. but not be retarded enough to post about it. because you still have some hint of respect.

but she probably did this because she knew the company and the rest of the nijisanji talents would misrepresent the situation and the reason for her termination, similar to finana, who said she was “manipulated” by zaion lanza.

you guys really need to stop blaming the employee as the reason why a professional' vtubing organization handled it so fucking poorly.
Was Selen in the NijiEN offices holding a gun to their head making them make horrible PR decisions?
No. End of story really. They chose to bury Selen by using the NijiEN brand. They bet and got fucked by the swinging dick of public opinion.
Everyone EVEN during the moment they made the announcement that they were fucking up by going to deep about the termination. Selen committed these reasons for her dismissal.
She drops a megabomb tweet. 'It WAS brought to our attention that one of our employees of our NijiEN branch, etc, we HAVE been conducting internal investigations at this time.
The problem is they were incompetent and got exposed.

>>110972081
will you kill yourself when they reconnect?

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>>110973306
https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1754459182412222481

Well, anycolor sucked. But doki never gave her story on public, but people jumped nijien and took her empty statement as an okay to bullied some innocent people online.

>>110973545
Vox said he read the legal document in the black screen announcement. I still wonder why they bothered keeping him on for that huge fuck up if you take NijiEN's stance in this situation.

>>110973668
All this paragraph means is that Selen reached the point where she sued them and that pissed the company off.

>>110973643
The opposite. I will be happy that they were able to put it past them, and my curiosity will be put to rest. Win-win.

>>110973668
FFS, where's the mention of her "legal doc"?
In their contract, if "liver" violates the terms, they own money. Big money, up to half a year worth or something. Unless it's the company's fault, or "legal responsibility".

>>110973875 (me)
*own->owe
I hate mobile-posting.

>>110973698
Anycolor made an action after weeks of silence because selen tried to sued them and threatened them to made a public statement. Probably they scared if she made a gdoc like zaion, because they are stupid, they thought making an advance statement of nonexistent public statement will help their case.

Later on doki claimed she never insists to public the documents, the legal doc anycolor mentioned on black stream, she admitted the existence of the doc. They both wrong, but people supported her without evidence and treated her as complete innocent victim.

>>110974097
like I said. Vox confirming a 'legal doc' publicly by his shitty choice of wording, then later Nijisanji changing their side of the story isn't a good look. They should have addressed Vox saw NOTHING.
They also should have explained that the call on Selen while hospitalized was from a professional checking in to see how she is doing. but they can't. Because they called her parents to 'set the story straight'.

There are too many things Nijisanji EN could not say because they didn't do the right thing in the first place like any other business does or else when exposed lying they are even more fucked.

>>110974211
and I am talking verifying everything in a proper public statement. All they did was triple down on a smear campaign. lol

>>110974211
Okay and how about the accusation? Are you fine with people with an empty statement without evidence accusing someone and creating a big witch hunt. Especially the bullying part. She is not completely innocent.

>>110974329
Niji wanted her to remain silent in limbo until the contract expiration. Or publicly take the blame. Or pay the stupid severance fee.
Selen wanted none of that, and claimed that she was unable to follow the contract's terms due to Niji's actions. And was ready to make public statement if worse came to worst.
They couldn't sue each other due to residing in different jurisdictions.
Here. Both sides. And I bet Ike went through the exact same shit when he was trying to leave himself.

>>110974097
why so ESL?

>>110945680

>>110971731
>>110972197
hohoho
look at that
another zaion slander attempt
not gonna work for selen isn't it

>>110974329
It is an employee vs employer situation with NijisanjiEN having a big reputation. The later freaks the fuck out. Why? They freaked out so badly and handle it so poorly their reputation permanently falls apart.
Let Selen accuse the org. Nothing will have come out of it if they handled the next step properly in terminating her and moving on. You don't fucking bite bait and approach it directly. Nijisanji could have deflected the suicidal yab in so many intelligent ways.

What you do not understand is that those people in their management were lurking here. Days in advance people were manipulating them to react in a certain way as they were piecing the situation together. Full passive aggressive responses to Nijisanji management defenders whenever they popped up saying that they new better than them and this was the right logical step to take. This went on for a month to a couple of weeks before the termination occurred. Then when shit hit the fan the narrative would flow chart the way it had been discussed for the last month. It would pain management as incompetent and lead to truth or it would double in intensity and reflect back onto the streamers. Guess which choice they picked.

>>110979788
We did it, leddit! ...I would say if this was true.
They freaked out because they royally fucked up the contract termination. All punitive clauses had been already invoked, and there was no additional NDA contract. She was basically free to run her mouth, and truth is the absolute defense for slander cases in her jurisdiction.

>>110981164
I know. I just add on the later because what pisses sisters off the most is that the simple solution was Selen had proper legal representation and she followed it.

Also, I just had a wayward thought. While Selen couldn't meaningfully sue Niji in Japan, she could probably try to sue Elira and the stooges in Canada for workspace harassment and possibly more. Since they basically worked at the same place from the same jurisdiction. Law is funny sometimes.