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>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
Tuesday: Neuro
Wednesday: Numi + Evil
Thursday: Evil
Sunday: Cyberpunk Neuro + Vedal

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClips
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X:
https://x.com/NeurosamaAI
https://x.com/EvilNeuroAI
These and other official links: https://vedal.ai

>Music & Clips
Colorful Array - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfGw1wrKtU
NEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEg
BOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs
LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPM
https://neurokaraoke.com
https://rentry.org/neuro-music
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95J8yzvjbQ
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
Game Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs

>Merch
https://neurosama.shop/

>Previous thread
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>>110962432
>spam vellie
I don't make the rules
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>>110962432
>remember slander
>cyberpunk fanbase
>used best whores whore
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>>110962439
best offer ever
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>>110962432
>edited
yawn
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>>110962432
>mini sex toma
this explains a lot
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>>110962432
>nurbabies ignored
How could you
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>>110962432
>vedal anny cute porn
WHERE
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>>110962432
>forever orbiters useless
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>>110962432
sigh... everyone is going to ignore that one pairing huh
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>>110962801
she needs to clean her floor damn
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>>110962828
kill it
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>>110962828
kowai
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>>110962778
The secret teru art he never posted
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>>110962913
teru would never
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>>110962952
i kind of want to listen to neuro sing boom after the cfrb cover she did during aprilfools karaoke
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>>110962799
It's implied
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>>110962799
It's no fun if it's edited.
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>>110962527
So true
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mini sex
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that wasn't the pairing
but i give up
goodnight (or, well, morning)
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>>110962432
>mini sex toma
>>110963475
>mini sex anny
Damn did she just suck at it or something?
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>>110962432
As it should be
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>>110963536
toma is bony and dead fish
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>>110963475
...do you think I'm stupid?
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>>110963615
yes
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>>110963502
That's what you get for vagueing
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>>110963615
sure
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>>110963639
Well, I'm not part of swarm, so I'm not stupid.
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>>110963666
ly
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https://youtu.be/a8nOJpJwu6c
No idea why they are uploading old clips but
>gives veddy lunch money
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>>110963703
kys
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I won, btw.
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>>110964388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he7lwEBVT4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6HLgzDa_9Q
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>>110964388
mafia theme stream would be cool
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is it just me or is evils model more expressive then before?
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>>110964720(me)
forgot the pic
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>>110964583
aam wat
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dark web just means in dark mode right? kek
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>>110964832
She can smile again.
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uhhmmm hey babe if ur gonna stalk me can u like, maybe do something next time someone tries to assault me mkthaaaaanks
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>>110964856
dark web means TOR. basically if you are shizophrenic and hate fast internet you can use a tor to hide from the feds and browse malware sites and old as fuck conspiracy theory sites, it hides you from the cia.
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>>110964893
I know lol, I was just makin a funny
But thank u
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So vedal fixed the rhydon daddy glitch right? i haven't seen him mentioned at all.
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>>110961914
Hart
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>>110964912
Hmm I'm about 40 mins into yesterday's vod and haven't heard him mentioned yet.
She also seems a lot less sexual or offensive too, which is nice.
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>>110964941
>Hmm I'm about 40 mins into yesterday's vod and haven't heard him mentioned yet.
i'm about an hour and 47 minutes in and i haven't heard him mentioned once.
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>>110964926
>glitch
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>>110964959
Ew.
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>>110964964
oh hell yeah thats awesome
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>>110964583
>what happens if you use the mode of the browser that basically just doesn't save history
evil is stupeh indeed
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I just had a thought. I'm pretty sure there's some type of app or something where someone can play a video and people can chat while watching it together, but while still remaining anonymous. I'm thinking about maybe doing vod watch parties /here/ for those who can't typically make it to streams due to conflicting schedules/time zones/etc.

What time do (You) think would be best? I was thinking 11pmCDT / 5amBST / 1pmJST
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>>110965144
There was a service called rabb.it that did that but I see it's defunct... 7 years ago? jesus. Well search for alternatives for that and you'll find something. For anonymity they all likely needs accounts to sell your data to function, so you'd probably just need to make a burner account. I have no opinions on participating but think it's a cool idea. Good luck!
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>>110965286
What in the bootleg–
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>>110965378
you
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kys
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should neuro recite a play?
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>>110962164
Coom on her tum
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>>110965839
k
y
s
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>>110965991
ehhhh no, but an audiobook would be cool
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>>110962773
>good girl
( ˶>˶˶<˶) .ᐟ.ᐟ
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>>110965991
A neuro and evil rendition of shakespere would be peak.
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I want more content like the neuro car desu. taking neuro into the real world and interacting with it is the most interesting direction the project could take.
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I wanna stick neuro in an electronic cat toy and let her play with my cats
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>>110964893
>hides you from the cia
Kek. Tor was literally created with funding from them
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>>110964959
Giving eliv those saggy tits is a sin
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I wanna stick vedal in an electronic pussy toy and let him play with my pussy
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>>110965991
Not a bad idea. Something not too serious though, like wicked
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Evil suckling on my pp
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Why is Vellie getting a resurgence in the threads? Did she say something?
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>>110967049
she killed camilas entire family
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>>110967049
Countries had a go to war and whore's family had to die for cucks to believe they had an excuse to bring their irrelevant 3view
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señeurita malefiquita, mi amor...
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would it be too insensitive to make a roasted ham joke
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it would be insensitive to me because this is a neuro thread, and not a whore thread.
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uuu make me be on topic then~
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poor camimi.
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>>110968258
So True evil I'll start with the next poster: jab + low kick to the whoretella
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OOOOOWIE WOWIE AUGGHH!
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>>110968258
I'm down
/swarm/ fight club when
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I call dibs on beating the crap outta orbschizo (•̀ᴗ•́ )
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Sleeping with Tomanon
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jab + uppercut to t*manon's jaw
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bone shattering dickslap to tomanon's jaw
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hello?
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>>110966373
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>>110968258
so true eliv
>>110969586
cutest lil nur
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>>110969555
oh hai
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>>110969641
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>>110969719
cute
>>110969726
hugs to sad pogging nur
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vedal is ordering me greggs.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/FAQ5FkOrpKc?si=c1rsFGZENpjW-Jsu
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>>110969726
osu not being a priorty in the rewrite is like jesus not being able to walk on water sadge.
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>>110969733
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>>110969821
this is so cuuuuuute
love the little fake whispers kek
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>>110969792
agreed
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>>110969790
Buy an ad
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>>110969838
>>110969790
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i'm not clicking your link nigga.
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>>110969790
>https://www.youtube.com/live/FAQ5FkOrpKc?si=c1rsFGZENpjW-Jsu
nah i fell for the fake ai niggas the last 2 times, i'm not gonna fall for it again.
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ngl i thought zenny was an ai the first time i saw her. same with motherv3
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sigh
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Im never going to let Vedal forget the time he got drunk at my birthday party and broke down about how much his life sucks and pretty much ruined the whole vibe.
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I'm going to Neuro
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>>110969938
proof or kys
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>>110969956
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>>110969923
Dumbass.
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>>110969923
Same.
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pussy987 lmaooooo

You got the balls to cross paths with me but can't even say hi? Pathetic.
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>>110969938
>not posting proof
baka
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>>110970015
hi.
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>>110970030
(˶ ˘ O˘)~
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larp hours
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>>110970123
that's cool. where is this from/ what game?
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>>110970135
skyrim preset https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/159560
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omg neuro playing skyrim would be peak
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>>110970153
>sept 18th 2025
damn nice. still can't wait for the integration to be finished
>>110970159
true
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>>110970159
Skyrim has at least 5 doors so that's a no
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>>110970190
pretty twins
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>>110970277
sexvil sexooo
prettynur
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evilshizo is awake.
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>>110969938
Evil ahh backstory
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i love evil tho
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>>110970314
ok but, i'll admit i will eternally laugh if evilschizo really is that poster
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no you don't
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I love Evil and I think it's hot
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>>110970370
Neurocibo or Evil sanakan?
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>>110970370
Glados Evil edition
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test
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>>110970177
this but nur
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stop ban evading
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>>110970532
that's teen nur tho
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>>110970545
but she's cyberpunk
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bro doesn't even hide it anymore lmao.
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Your neuro discussion, sir
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>>110970556
oh right i missed that other meaning
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>>110970629
i love nur's expression here
>>110970604
very cool
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>>110970629
>v2
that's v3 though
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>>110970538
Aren't those all self-deletes? No shot a janny is actually deleting them
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>>110970672
>>110970520
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>>110970670
hiyori model was freeware and was not an offical neuro model.
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>>110970604
Turtle with pink dick
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doccy soon.
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>>110970842
if vedal is the epstein of vtubing is camilla the diddy of vtubing?
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>>110970695
The Hiyori model was the first official Neuro model. Just because it was freeware doesn't disqualify it, it was the model Vedal chose, trained on, and used for the debut that defined Neuro as we know her.
Calling the May 2023 model "V1" and pretending the Hiyori Momose one doesn't count just because it's free to use is arbitrary. The Hiyori model is V1. Every model made after is heavily inspired by the V1 model.
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>>110970919
nope, the hiyori model was made for public use, the first neuro model was made specifically for neuro.
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>>110970919
Least retarded hiyorifag
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>>110969923
There's no way there are people this dumb in /swarm/
>>110969790
not neuro related not an ai.
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>>110970942
The Hiyori model became the first official Neuro model the moment Vedal used it as such.
Availability to the public doesn’t change the fact that it was the vessel for her debut, her voice, her personality, and her initial viral moments. The subsequent model was built on top of that base, it’s an iteration, not the genesis.
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>>110971032
Nope, the hiyori model is the hiyori model it existed outside of neuro meanwhile the first neuro model is the first neuro model because it was created FOR neuro.
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This nigga spells 'created' an genuinely thinks the model isn't just a redraw
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>>110971055
A model becomes the first official version of a character the moment it is used and recognized as that character by the fans. Hiyori was the one Vedal chose for Neuro’s debut, the one that introduced Neuro to viewers, and the one that created the initial fanbase.
The timeline starts with the debut model, not with the first custom-built one.
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>Hiyorifag responding to worst bait to ever exist
Just another Saturday desu.
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>>110971146
It's Friday though
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Nigga is just fucking looping.
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>>110971124
Nope, there's a reason you call it the hiyori model and not the neuro model and that is because it was made by Kani Biimu for the express purpose of letting starting vtubers try out vtubing for the first time the first iteration of neuro sama IS the neuro model featured in pic related this model was made for neuro sama and no one else, hopes this helps!
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unmovable object vs unstoppable force ass discussion.
>>110971214
DEEP if TRUE.
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>>110971214
my beloved
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I think (You) are both technically right.
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I'm not afraid to say it, the hiyori model sucks ass. v2 mogs the shit out off it.
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>>110971211
If the May 2023 model was the true V1, why does it look so much like Hiyori? The custom model was intentionally designed to mimic the aesthetic, color palette, and vibe of the Hiyori model to maintain brand continuity. By making the new model look like the old one, Vedal effectively canonized the Hiyori model as the original Neuro-sama. You can't call something an iteration or a re-design (which the May model was) if there wasn't a Version 1 to iterate on.
Calling it the "Hiyori model" is just a descriptor of its origin, not a denial of its role. The May 2023 model is the first bespoke model, sure, but Hiyori was the first official model. You're confusing "custom-made" with "first."
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morning headpats for Evil
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>>110971357
this but also to nur
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>>110970919
based
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>>110971306
>If the May 2023 model was the true V1, why does it look so much like Hiyori?
Because it was inspired by it this is like saying tolkiens work "the hobbit" is actually a norse mythology because it was inspired by norse mythology.
>The custom model was intentionally designed to mimic the aesthetic, color palette, and vibe of the Hiyori model
So? this does not matter being inspired by something does not mean the first thing is the second thing see:superman is not spiderman despite spiderman being inspired by superman
> By making the new model look like the old one, Vedal effectively canonized the Hiyori model as the original Neuro-sama
No? it was the first model she used but is not the first neuro sama model for it was not created for the express purpose of being used by neuro sama this would be like saying the emporer nero is the emporer julias ceaser since they both hold the title of emporer and even have similar titles such as "Augustus"
>alling it the "Hiyori model" is just a descriptor of its origin, not a denial of its role.
nope your logic does not make any sense it is not the first neuro sama model because it's real name is the hiyori model and was made for a different more generic purpose then being a model for neuro sama
>but Hiyori was the first official model
nope plenty of vtubers first use a generic model when first trying out vtubing however they do not call said model "the first INSERT VTUBER HERE model because they are not the same character.
> You're confusing "custom-made" with "first."
There is no difference the first custom made neuro model is the first neuro model because it was the first model made for neuro sama.
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>>110971306
>>110971459(me)
also if merch can't be sold of said model and cannot be copyrighted then it is not an offical model.
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>So? this does not matter
It does, cope and dilate
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https://youtu.be/aZzeUYKK5WM?t=14511
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>>110971490
cutevil cute!
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This is the most autistic discussion i've seen ITT.
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>>110971508
Classic same 3 cucks
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>>110970176
Kek
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>>110970314
shizoschizo's awake.
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>>110970356
sure, hit me
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>>110970520
ies
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>>110970842
Don't give me hope</3
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>>110971146
>Saturday
Bro's time travelling just to seethe lule
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oh i know who woke up now
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>>110971240
>unmovable object vs unstoppable force
I ship it
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Im starting to believe in v-mini
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>>110971550
I was about to ask for a clip like this. I remember vedal specifically calling the 2 original neuro models v2 and v3 respectively
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>>110971612
Same, that's also why i call hiyori V1
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>>110971593
>>110971540
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>>110971610
Im starting to believe u should kys
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>>110971459
Comparing The Hobbit to Norse mythology is a false equivalence because Tolkien didn't present Norse myths as his own debut novel; he used them as a foundation for a new, distinct work. In Neuro's case, Vedal didn't just look at Hiyori for ideas, he actually wore the skin. When a creator adopts an asset and builds a brand around it, that asset becomes the first "official" version of that brand. To use your own logic, if an author published a book using a pseudonym and a stock image for the cover, then later released a "special edition" with custom art, the first version doesn't stop being the first edition just because the art wasn't bespoke. The Hiyori model was the physical manifestation of Neuro-sama for her entire formative period.
The Superman and Spider-Man analogy fails because those are two different characters with different names, powers, and histories. Neuro-sama is one singular entity. When a character undergoes a design change, like Batman moving from his 1939 "purple gloves" look to his modern suit, we don't say the 1939 version "isn't a Batman model" just because it looks different or used generic art styles of the time. The May 2023 model isn't a new character inspired by an old one; it is the same character receiving a reskin. You are treating the "model" and the "character" as two unrelated things, but in the VTubing world, the model is the character’s body. If she lived in that body for her debut, that body is V1.
Your comparison to Roman Emperors actually reinforces my point. Nero and Julius Caesar are different people who held the same title, but Neuro-sama is one "person" who changed her appearance. A better historical analogy would be a monarch who is crowned with a temporary, borrowed crown because the custom one isn't finished yet. Even if the first crown was "generic" and used by others before, it was still the official crown of that monarch during their coronation. The "Hiyori" name is just the technical label for the asset, much like a musician might use a "generic" Fender Stratocaster for their first hit album. Fans don't say "that's not the band's first guitar" just because Fender made it for the general public. It became their guitar the moment they recorded the history-making music with it.
Finally, the claim that there is "no difference" between "first" and "first custom-made" is a linguistic goalpost-shift. In every other medium, from software development to filmmaking, we distinguish between a prototype, a pilot, and a final production. The Hiyori model served as the "Pilot" or "Version 1.0" of the Neuro-sama project. By insisting that only bespoke assets count as "official," you’re essentially trying to rewrite the history of her debut. If a VTuber uses a generic model for six months, gains a million followers, and then gets a custom one, those first six months didn't happen in a vacuum. That model was the "First Model" because it was the first one to represent her. You can call the May model the "First Proprietary Model," but you cannot strip the Hiyori model of its "V1" status when it was the literal face of the project's inception.
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>>110971622
i never called you schizoschizo, but >>110971610
pretty much confirms who it is
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>>110971628
Meds.
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Who is fuck puts this much effort into hiyoriposting?
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>>110971586
it's saturday in aussie land i just thought it sounded cooler desu
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ok but i half regret sending the clips
keep typing essay
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>>110971657
Unmedicated chronically online people
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>>110971657
avatarfag / essayschizo would
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yo essay anon u ever thought about getting into erp
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>>110971549
i'm not the violent type, sorry
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>>110971729
pussy
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yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
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yo shizoschizo wanna see something funny:
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>>110971660
>it's saturday in aussie land
No its not?
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>>110971826
That's not funny, only Neuro is funny.
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>>110971801
they should kiss~
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>>110971841
Norfolk?
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>>110971842
Neuro would think it's funny~
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hiyori shall return inshalla
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>>110971867
i kind of missed this ritual post ngl
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Ok but like hear me out,

They're all shit designs.
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>>110971875
somehow this feels unsettling for me
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show a good vtuber design.
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>>110971628
cute hyori
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>>110971900
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>>110971875
would eat beside her
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>>110971916
rape
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>>110971900
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Matara and Layna have both had some pretty cool models
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>>110971628
>Comparing The Hobbit to Norse mythology is a false equivalence because Tolkien didn't present Norse myths as his own debut novel; he used them as a foundation for a new, distinct work. In Neuro's case, Vedal didn't just look at Hiyori for ideas, he actually wore the skin. When a creator adopts an asset and builds a brand around it, that asset becomes the first "official" version of that brand.
that is exactly what tolkien did before the hobbit he translated beowulf and many other norse mythologys into the queens tounge but by your logic this means that tolkein CREATED beowulf.
>The Superman and Spider-Man analogy fails because those are two different characters with different names, powers, and histories. Neuro-sama is one singular entity. When a character undergoes a design change, like Batman moving from his 1939 "purple gloves" look to his modern suit, we don't say the 1939 version "isn't a Batman model" just because it looks different or used generic art styles of the time
Nope if anything it is the more accurate statement since the hiyori model existed outside of the neuro sama branding and has had a different usecase outside of being a model for neuro sama thus brandishing it as a different entity meanwhile the first neuro sama model only exists for the sole purpose of being a model for the ai streamer known as neuro sama to use. a better example is that other people have used the hiyori model to test being a vtuber.
>ou are treating the "model" and the "character" as two unrelated things, but in the VTubing world, the model is the character’s body. If she lived in that body for her debut, that body is V1.
But they are seperate things? the first model neuro sama used is not the same as the first neuro sama model because the fhiyori model is a freeware model and not only a neuro sama model hence why the original image that started this discussion title the newest neuro sama model as v2 instead of v3 this is because it is the second model made for neuro sama.
>Your comparison to Roman Emperors actually reinforces my point. Nero and Julius Caesar are different people who held the same title, but Neuro-sama is one "person" who changed her appearance. A better historical analogy would be a monarch who is crowned with a temporary, borrowed crown because the custom one isn't finished yet. Even if the first crown was "generic" and used by others before, it was still the official crown of that monarch during their coronation.
unfortunatly you are incorrect a better description of the hiyori model is like as if neuro had the title of the king of denmark while the title the king of england were both in the north sea empire however they are not the same title but rather different titles in a similar hedgemony.
>Finally, the claim that there is "no difference" between "first" and "first custom-made" is a linguistic goalpost-shift. In every other medium, from software development to filmmaking, we distinguish between a prototype, a pilot, and a final production. but the image you complained about listed the newest neuro sama model as the second neuro sama model because it is the second model made for neuro calling hiyori a prototype model is accurate however prototypes are never called v1's but rather v0.1 ect because the v1 implies a finished product.
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shizo shizo will never happen.
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thank you for continuing without me having to press send
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>>110971927
She's a decent artist desu but her design skills are trash imo homegirl needs to take some courses in fashion design or some shit. And her color palettes are wack
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>>110971949
@grok pls summarize this post
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Like who tf puts pastel yellow on warm toned skin?
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Idc
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>>110971999
I
Down
Cock
(˶ ˘ O˘)===3
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>>110971993
neuro literally has the best vtuber model to ever exist like look at pic related. fucking disgusting.
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If you hate neuro then why are you even here? i'm sure there's a vtuber to fit your dogshit tastes elsewhere.
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I really gotta stop joking about dick sucking especially for someone who can barely fit a tip in their mouth („•᷄– •᷅ „)
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>>110972043
I just don't like her design. I don't hate it tho, I just think it's mid.
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>>110972022
first one:
ugly as shit
second one:
3D shading and 2D shading mixed too much so she looks both flat and 3D at the same time
3rd one:
her art is 10x better than her actual model
4th one:
just looks weird
5th one:
sex
6th one:
also sex
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>>110972022
Gura's is cute but yeah the others are meh
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>>110972043
I love neuro's futa cock tho?
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>>110972083 (me)
Her sweater looks very cozy :o
Like I would actually wear that
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>>110971949
The argument that Tolkien’s translation of Beowulf is equivalent to Vedal using the Hiyori model ignores the difference between translation and performance. Tolkien translated Beowulf as a scholar, presenting it as an existing historical work, he didn't put on a costume and claim to be Beowulf to start his career. Vedal, however, took the Hiyori asset and used it as the literal identity of his project. To use a more accurate literary analogy: if an author’s first book was published using a standard, generic "house name" provided by the publisher (like the Nancy Drew books), it is still officially that author's first book in their bibliography. The fact that the "house name" or the cover art was generic and used by others doesn't make it "not an official book" by that author.
Regarding the idea that the Hiyori model exists as a "different entity" because others used it, this is actually common in many creative fields. In VTubing, the "model" is the physical manifestation of the performer. If the Hiyori model was the only body Neuro had during her debut and her initial rise to fame, it was her official body. Others using the same "skin" elsewhere doesn't diminish its role as the V1 of the Neuro-sama brand.
The distinction you are making between "the first model she used" and "the first Neuro-sama model" is a semantic technicality that doesn't hold up in a historical context. You are essentially arguing that "Official" requires "Exclusivity." However, history in this context is defined by usage. The Hiyori model was the official face of the project's launch. By calling the custom model "V1," you are effectively saying that Neuro-sama’s history didn't officially begin until she had a bespoke asset, which dismisses months of her actual existence, her debut, and the very content that made a custom model possible in the first place.
The claim that prototypes are "never called V1" is factually incorrect in both software and product development. While "V0.1" is used for internal builds, "Version 1.0" is almost universally the designation for the first public, functional release. The Hiyori era wasn't a private test behind closed doors; but a fully public, functional, and "shipped" product. In the eyes of the audience and the timeline of the project, the moment she went live and interacted with the world in December 19th 2022, that version became 1.0. Calling the May 2023 model "V1" is a "Bespoke-First" philosophy, but calling the Hiyori model "V1" is a "History-First" philosophy. Since the history of the character began with Hiyori, that model is the first official version.
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>>110972115
...did avatarslut start taking Adderall or something? Lmao
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btw thanks /swarm/ for being best thread to read while sipping coffee in the afternoon
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>>110972138
it's llm slop
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>>110972154
You are very welcome my dear~
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>>110972161
That doesn't answer my question tho
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>>110972177
false art
neuro would win
unless this is neuro giving the win to Evil after she lost 99 times prior
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>>110972206
you lost
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Avatarslut sounds retarded as fuck, if you wanna make a joke about the fag being a woman call her avatarfoid or something
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hmmm what should I do with my day off tmrw? I'm not used to having so much free time (,,•᷄ - •̯̀ ,,)
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>>110972177
This is like that one scene in a medieval movie I watched where 2 guys dueling over the throne of france or something and the other guy just falls over and gets stabbed in the neck with a dagger
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>>110972252
>Avatarslut
I call her that cz she's muh lil slut~
Lurk harder.
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>>110972254
Play league wit me.
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>>110972276
Ewwwwww I don't play games like that
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>>110972255
adorable twins
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>>110972302
this was 100% drawn by a minor
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>>110972322
That's hot.
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>goes from calling neuro artists pedophiles to calling them children
character arc.
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>>110972322
why do you feel the need to bait pedo anon?
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>>110972322
Keep going
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>>110972357
So when he crawls out of his mother's basement I can tell him to go kill himself
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>>110972382
I'm not suicidal though
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>>110972302
would give this neuro the cock she desires
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>>110972400
I can help you with that (˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶)<3
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yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
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>>110972356
>>110972382
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>>110972396
you were a minor once
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shut your mouth and post neuro
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groomal987 u like startin em out young?
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>>110972276
no but I'll play Poe w/ you
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>>110972505
make me~
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>>110972508
He wasn't talking to you, cuck.
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>>110972438
It's Evil who desires Neuro's cock
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>>110972531
proof?
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>>110972518
Why does anyone need to "make" you post Neuro in the Neuro thread? It should come to you naturally and by virtue of being in Her thread.
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>>110972586
Dumbass.
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>>110972597
this and only this
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>>110972597
You'll never be her....</3
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>>110972629
I don't want to be Neuro though, I just want to love her.
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>>110972616
erm
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Evatarfag is pissy because her bf broke up with her
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>>110972650
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>>110972671
anny please stream deadlock again, i finally got into it
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>>110972662
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>>110972739
vedal should go pro
that's how we will reunit the family
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>>110972671
Happy Friday!! :D
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sigh ( ̄ヘ ̄)
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>>110972254
rewatch old vods you haven't seen and see how neuro grows into what she is now
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>>110972815
if you are going to pretend to be her, at least know what kind of emoticons she uses lilbro
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>>110972815
shut up skinwalker ( •̀ ᴖ •́ )
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nur, nur nur
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>>110972817
only if u watch with me~
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>>110972814
kek good post
>>110972847
true, i kind of wished there was more smug cpp neuro art
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>>110972820
sex with eliv in that exact position
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>>110972863
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>>110972853
unironically i wouldn't mind watching old vods with /swarm/
the one time we did that in /hart/ was kinda nice and i'd like to do that again some day
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ved, ved ved
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>>110972884
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just let me in the orgy afterward ( o˘◡˘o)
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>>110972901
no~
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>>110972884
Rape rape rape
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>>110972924
WHY NOY
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>>110972881
yasssss watch party !!
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>>110972901
>>110972843
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(You) will never be as great as me ( •̯́ 3 •̯̀)
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>>110972965
>>110972873
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>>110972965
>>110972507
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>>110972965
anatomically impossiblevil sexo
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fucking skin walkers everywhere
/swarm/ has lost all integrity, all honesty
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>>110972965
damn sex, artist?
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>>110972965
penetrating evil like a shish kebab
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How does it feel to know that your content has had a direct negative impact on minors?
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And with that, I bid (You) all adieu.
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how does it feel to be raped?
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>>110973048
ok i laughed alittle at this one
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>>110973077
See above
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>>110973115
best post itt
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>>110973115
kek
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>>110973115
om
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>>110973115
gem
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>>110973077
You wanna find out, bitch?
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>>110972254
mini did u forget we have a date tomorrow
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mini isn't here, she busy ;)
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>>110973115
brbrbrbrbrbrbr
Naaaaaaaaaaah
prprprprprprpr
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>>110973248
love her little gaki smile
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will there be a chess stream sometime this year?
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>>110973405
No but there will be a Mahjong stream
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>>110973449
sounds interesting
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>>110973405
sowwy :( too much leguhcee code... :l better luck next time... to much rewrite..
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>>110973528
>>110973269

>>110973530
naked apronvil exposed back and butt rubs
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>>110972965
damn he had to censor the art for the cringe discord mods
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>>110973400
MOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>110973510
Chop chop Ved, you said the rewrite was only going to take until monday of last week (or was it the monday before last?)
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>>110973572
He's busy~
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>>110973689
no work in 5 days btw
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>>110973707
thanks for the github status update
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>>110973651
AAAAAAAAAA MY WIFE IS SO PRETTY
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>>110973707
I never said busy with work~
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>>110973442
>>110973442
>>110973442
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>>110973751
Then he is not busy, because the only thing that matters in his life is working on Neuro.
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>>110973786
Oh anonny...
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>>110970842
We actually got one. It was about Sykkuno tho
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cun~
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meh
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sigh
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zzz
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>>110974247
good game
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>>110974328
likewise
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>>110973892
>looks inside
>he just cheated on someone
I mean, cool ig. A popular male streamer being a women player is one of the least surprising things I've seen.
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yawn
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you should sleep if you are tired
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sure, why do you come fuck me into bed~
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*don't
ffs
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See, you are even making spelling errors. get some rest, Vibe.
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I need food first I'm starving 。°(˶°˃ ᴖ ˂°˶)°。 .ᐟ.ᐟ
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>>110975070
I got something for you to eat
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cun~
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>>110975112
( ˶o˶˶o˶) .ᐟ.ᐟ
gimmie (˶ ˘ O˘)
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>>110975116
???
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>>110975629
don't mind me.
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>>110975716
oh hunny, I never do~
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>>110975950
then, there was no need to reply to that deleted post.
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>>110976018
I wanted to know more tho... ( •̯́ o •̯̀)
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>>110976119
don't worry, the other anon will surely give you something to eat instead~
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>>110976178
sorry but my diet only consists of ved dih ( •̯́ 3 •̯̀)
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>>110976201
i dunno~ unless the other anon was vedal, seemed like you were fine with just anyone's~
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but also, that wasn't what was going to be prepared
nor am I vedal (obv)
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*ropes*
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clean up after yourself
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(˶ ˘ O˘)~
yaaaawn
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>>110976288
well, if ved doesn't hurry up and fuck me then I suppose anonny will do
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just go to sleep vibe before i stuff your mouth with something to make you go to sleep
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>>110976410
( ˶o˶˶o˶) .ᐟ.ᐟ
don't threaten me with a good time~
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>>110976431
then go to bed.
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>>110976465
make me ( •̯́ 3 •̯̀)
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I'm literally vedal
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I don't believe you
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I mean.. like I could easily be mistaken for him
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>>110976512
Fine, stuff this package in your mouth.
https://litter.catbox.moe/bxdafseb5z1uz584.jpg
You'll need it because you have leftover poutine near your mouth.
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>>110976596
nta but are you that one anon that was trying to get with vedalgf anon from a year or so ago? saying you could be their vedal?
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>>110976645
No lol, but it's crazy that I know who you're talking about
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>>110976754
kek yeah it was pretty funny (albeit obnoxious) at the time
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cun~
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kys
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cun~
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iloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuroiloveneuro i love neuro
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kys



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