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>What is /lig/?
/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.

>Why /lig/?
Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.

>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?
Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.

>Wait isn't that one a corpo?
/lig/ is a thread for chuubas of a decent size who aren't defined by their corporate branding, either due to the small size of the corporation or the independence and lack of oversight granted to the talents

>/lig/ Numbers
https://lignumbers.neocities.org/

>Twitch Clips Guide
https://pastelink.net/34vd5

>VOD Archival Guide
https://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide

>/lig/ VOD Archive
https://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig_

>Koikatsu cards
https://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA

>/lig/ Wheel of Names
https://wheelofnames.com/5jh-93j

>Tiermaker
https://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3

>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)
https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg

>Upcoming Birthdays
April 11th - Ume Aino
April 19th - Yoclesh & Zuma
April 23rd - Coqui & Limealicious & Momotexx
April 24th - Sugi Aoki
April 27th - Peach Milky
May 3rd - CharlottexBear
May 4th - Dya Rikku & Imakuni
May 6th - Nino Egyn
May 14th - Peo Yukinoshita
May 17th - Grimmi

>OC material for the OP
https://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw

>/lig/booru
https://ligbooru.moe/

>Ducks
https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (bat) (embed) (embed) (embed) (bat) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (bat)

Other useful threads:
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rip madi
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I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
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I love Lucy
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Thoughts?
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>>111007548
onahole
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I don't even think the tinder stuff would have been a big issue if saru didn't also ruin the streams vibe and constantly go on witch hunts about parasocialism and constantly getting mad at people saying they like her and so on.
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>>111007580
>send message
I know what you are
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>>111007573
>cuck let saru man sex guy
not iike this, sarubros, not like this
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>>111007580
i would fight for israel if the feds guaranteed me cunny
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Why does the lady in the swimsuit keep spontaneously growing new limbs.
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>>111007594
her faggot mods didn’t help either
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Belgian tomboy
https://www.twitch.tv/fraiki
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>>111007615
why neuro sad? :(
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I've seen it all.
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>>111007503
She's right, you know. There's absolutely zero excuses for cheating in a monogamous relationship. If you do cheat on your partner they should cut you out of their life. Cheaters deserve no second chances.
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>>111007618
many US officials have said this
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tomoe umari but's shes fat send post
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>>111007629
it’s the cutie from earlier yippee!
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Italian fox love
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>>111007628
They got what they wanted, they said the new rules are great because it made them very uncomfortable when chatters said they like saru
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HalO kisses
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I Love Lucy
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>>111007615
Don't be sad! Now I'm sad!
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>>111007629
I keep forgetting to follow Fraiki.
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tomoe umari but's shes bat send post
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>>111007628
I guarantee not all of her mods are happy about her doing out dating. Some of them will leave her when she does get a bf.
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>>111007686
evil krum mogs her
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https://www.twitch.tv/ch4i
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tomoe umari but with a horse cock send post
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>>111007670
>mods trying to cut down the competition to have a better chance to get in to her pants
Color me surprised.
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>>111007697
too bad she's DEAD
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stop sending posts
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>>111007650
Well said Grimmi
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>>111007734
>chatters or mods ever having a chance with the streamer
lmao
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>>111007545
Im blaming that e-boy faggot for delaying my snuffy streams
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>>111007734
saru gangbang with viewers when
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what if grimmi gets stupider from the cyst
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Why can't more male vtuber be like aethel?
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>>111007629
this girl is cutie thank you for recommending her
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>>111007777
like what
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>>111007777
Successful groomers?
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I can understand modding for someone you're in love with, people do stupid shit when in love and will put in a lot of effort that will look stupid to outsiders or to you when you fall out of love. I also understand modding part time for a friend. But I can not understand what kind of person would mod for someone they arnt in love with and doesn't know as a friend. Imagine spending 10s of hours a week working for free for someone in a job where experience doesn't matter and you arnt even friends with the person.
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>>111007628
Some of mods have always been against it, plus they have a clique of chatters that brown nose them.
I remember her explicitly shutting them down during several GFE streams because they kept shitting up chat.

Ironically I think she might cool off once she has pookie 2.0, I think all the MILF/mommy stuff upset her since she's always wanted to appear younger.

>>111007696
I dunno, they all seem be positive about this new direction.
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>>111007777
male vtubers who are openly in a relationship tend to not be the problem. It's the one's who are hiding it that are the secret sexpests
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>>111007777
>why haven't more male vtubers tried to kill themselves
Good question...
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>>111007777
I feel Nyan would actually violently kill him if he cheated.
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>Whores out themselves desperate for 4view cock
>N-n-nnno feel bad for us!!!
How delusional are these holes?
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got my para hello :D
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>>111007734
Mods have the same chance of fucking the streamer as the average chatter which is to say no chance but mods love to turn female vtubers into their personal attention toys to hang out and play games with.
Not to mention hanging out durring cons IRL when they tried their hardest to somehjow get into streamer's pants.
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>>111007684
This goes for “managers” and head mods too
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>>111007801
I give my oshi +50 helpfulness and +40 damage control
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>>111007794
*Successfully groomed
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>>111007836
more like BoringAtVideoGames
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>>111007794
>>111007805
>0view vtweeters are seething
funni
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theres no one live
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>>111007832
that's a big hat
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>>111007814
anon...
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>>111007811
They feel like simps giving them money for no reason have to emotionally support them for no reason as well.
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>>111007864
my mom is live

https://www.twitch.tv/boricatvt
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I don't like to be alive anymore. Vtubers for this feel?
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>>111007846
He had a couple more vtubers on the line, but actually did cut them for Nyan. Felt bad for Yuzu
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>>111007777
nyan was aethels literal discord kitten
he just got lucky
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>>111007802
Well obviously they're not gonna say out loud they don't like it. I'm sure there's some game of thrones shit going on among the mods and they try to undermine eachother to be her favorite. Disagreeing with her is just giving the others ammo to use against you.
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>>111007864
https://www.twitch.tv/batatvideogames
https://www.twitch.tv/batatvideogames
https://www.twitch.tv/batatvideogames
https://www.twitch.tv/batatvideogames

also rate my dindin
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>>111007777
People who glaze Aethel are funny. He is a textbook sex pest who got lucky and managed to successfully groom a female vtuber. If he failed, he would be on the same level as the million other male vtubers trying to fuck with anything with a hole in the community. If he had failed with Nyan, he had like three more female streamers he was close with.
He is not a good guy by any metric.
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>>111007892
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>>111007580
I do not like flat chicks
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>>111007807
same desu
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Kiba is looking for more VTuber friends that she can hang out and do collabs with
https://x.com/kibawooo/status/2042898098951778673
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>>111007836
KnottingAtVideoGames
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>>111007511
uuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>111007921
just buy friends?
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>>111007921
you lost
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>>111007573
bad oshi bat
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>>111007807
I hope Nyanners gets violently killed lmao
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>>111007511
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>>111007891
How'd you know without talking to any of them
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my do nyanners and vei have the same voice
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>>111007921
Kibawoo more like Kibawho ehehehe
Anyway, didn't she used to have easy access to vtuber friends? Why not call them back?
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>>111007921
Just cold DM people on Discord
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>>111007758
yeah just ignore the many instances of mod bfs
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>>111007892
>Brazilian keyboard
I knew it
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>>111007801
True, what does JCRouzer get out of moderating for so many 3views?
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>>111007952
Unironicly this, every ligger I cold DMed has been very nice and responded back except for zen
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>>111007807
Pink Cat Crazy
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>>111007964
batposter being batzilian is a known fact and is often cited
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>>111007954
In many cases those mods were bfs before vtubers started streaming.
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uuu
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>>111007901
>if I say this shit in an authoritative voice maybe people won't realize that I'm just making it all up
okay
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>>111007964
That's a Scandinavian keyboard. Notice the ÅÄÖ.
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>>111007972
I imagine Zen has a million unread DMs simply because of the volume of messages they receive
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>>111007954
a bf can be a mod but a mod can never become a bf
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>>111007949
You guys always say this and I don't hear it. They sound similar, but easy to tell apart.
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>>111007801
powertripping is addictive
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>>111007951
She has a couple core friends in Para and Kiba but she got burned a few times during her time in CyberLive and Phase Connect so she receded for a while. Also she's been dealing with a lot in her personal life so she hasn't had much time to keep up with people online
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>>111007864
https://www.twitch.tv/nyufie
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>>111007996
Explain rosedoodle
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>>111007975
aren't we all a bit crazy?
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>>111007999
Fatty excuse for eating like a dumpster
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>>111007951
no one wants to deal with insufferable retards like her
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>>111008007
She sounds like bao
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>>111007954
9/10 mod bfs are preexisting boyfriends given mod status rather than the other way around
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>>111007948
Brother, this always happens when a bunch of guys hand around a single girl. And I'm sure she's aware of it and finds it flattering that a bunch of sweaty nerds are all fighting for her attention.
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>>111007987
You can glaze him as much as you want, guy is a textbook sexpest groomer that got lucky.
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>>111007996
>a mod can never become a bf
except when they do lol
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>>111007952
this is illegal now
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>>111007999
>Get stressed
>Stress eat
>Get even fatter
>Being fat gives you stress
>Stress eat
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>>111007892
ducky?
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>>111008012
obese
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https://twitch.tv/noro
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>>111007999
Need plumpy pyre
NOW
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>>111008028
99/100
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>>111008051
Sorry, no idea what that is
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lucy having modest a cup mounds only works if you’re petite. stop stuffing your face.
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>>111008051
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>>111008046
my life loop
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>>111008068
keyboard maker. so i guess not
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I'm gonna date my oshi and you're all gonna look stupid when I do.
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>>111008065
eh, there's at least three known cases of it happening the other way around. In two of those cases, the vtuber was married to someone else at the time, kek
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>>111008082
It's a Logitech
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>>111007794
>>111007901
i dont think you guys know what the word groom means
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Saw some people talking about delusional goals and how it's a good thing to have them and work towards them even in the face of overwhelming odds. And I thought isn't working to date your oshi one of them?
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>>111008085
Im already dating your oshi
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>>111008101
You're a logitech
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I honestly think everyone here is more than capable of getting a ligger harem.
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Which ligger would you like to punch in the face?
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jacking off to morch for 17 hours straight
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>>111008114
tf you mean by that
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>>111008105
Please excuse the Zoomers. They have brain damage.
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>>111008105
grooming is when someone expresses interest who is not me
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https://www.twitch.tv/lucypyre
https://www.twitch.tv/lucypyre
https://www.twitch.tv/lucypyre
Get in here faggots
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>>111008112
You could never because I am the one that's gonna date her, stupid.
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Annybaker is my mom
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>>111008006
>WHY ARE YOU BLACK
>...what?
Gets me everytime.
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>>111008135
Finally, a good streamer
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>>111008129
You know what I mean you logitech
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>>111008134
saar...
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I will not watch Lucy. In fact I will HIT Lucy! I will beat the shit out of her! Push her to the ground
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>>111008114
what a horrible thing to say
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>>111008006
>>111008148
but why is she black?
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>>111008146
He's my dad...
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>>111008156
stop that
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>>111007901
uh oh 1view melty
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>>111008158
And then this Anon was never seen ever again. No one missed him.
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ligger ryona
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>>111008023
People put up with you just fine, they'll have no problems with Kiba
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>>111008114
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>>111008172
Oh I guess the logitech is getting uppity now
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>>111007901
trvke
>>111007987
>>111008105
>>111008173
cucks
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>>111008134
isn't it flirting by an unattractive guy until it works
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>>111008135
>watching satanists
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>>111008158
she is weak af. you can just push her a little and she would probably fall down and break something
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>>111007999
Is having "high cortisol" the new tism/adhd//random-sciency-sounding-cope-buzzword-of-the-day? I keep seeing it being used to explain away random personality quirks.
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>>111007921
I would like to see an off collab where a chuuba whips Kiba's thighs
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>>111008122
You're so positive it makes me jealous.
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>>111007949
Only Tob Zuma and Ecto have the same voice
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>>111008197
high cortisol post
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>>111008181
cancelling krum for using the racist chinaman teeth
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Who are the most titfuckable ligs?
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God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)
Been seeing many vtubers graduating or hiatusing today.
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>>111008197
some zoomer thing
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>>111008189
>big 2026
>still jealous of aethel
just let it go man
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"teach me how to goon" - HalO
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>111008191
No. It means finding someone who is in a desperate or otherwise vulnerable position and slowly making them dependent on you until they get coerced into having a relationship (usually physical) with you.
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>>111008221
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Who are the most footfuckable liggas?
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>>111008146
>>111008165
YOu're both not getting an allowance
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>>111007999
It all goes to her pussy
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me? I'm happy for Aethel. he's a cool guy
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>>111008114
You are a number 1 packet sniffer
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Female juniper should fondle boy male juniper until he cum
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>>111008002
I had to listen to their original song and I could not tell them apart
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>>111008181
eating all of krum's cheese
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>>111008271
Look at that PATHETIC tiny tail HAH
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>>111008243
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>>111008278
I don't speak your Logitech lingo speak english
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>>111008243
Ch4i has some good feet pics
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>>111008265
No he isn't, making fun of chat and making jokes about cucking chat while dating Nyan and at the same time calling anyone who notices it a schizo isn't something a cool guy does.

Imagine your friend knows you like a girl and he starts dating her and instead of telling you he starts making fun of you and making jokes about how you're cucked and gasslightling you when you ask why he has been hanging out with her so much, does a cool guy do that?
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The cold hard truth is that the first era of lig is almost over
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>>111008197
It literally just means that you're stressed out. Stop getting triggered by the language of the younger generation
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>>111008310
It's long over, people have sucked the fun out of it.
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>>111008310
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>>111008310
is there a new lig emperor on the horizon
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>>111008307
This feels like one of those posts that even if theres is a grain of truth it sounds butthurt enough to be schizo resulting in their point being dismissed.
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>>111007999
going to stress lucy out with my weiner and make her overweight with my child
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>>111008314
leave him be. his cortisol is spiked already.
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>>111008307
A legendary Nyan gosling. Many had claimed they'd gone extinct.
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>>111008344
Yeah me
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>>111008240
she's just so cute...
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>>111008307
Learn to take a joke, ex-gosling
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>>111008350
You don't have to be a gosling to remember what they did
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>>111008307
holy shit. i feel like i lost some braincells reading this
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>>111008362
Cuteroll I like that
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>>111008362
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>>111008383
iq levels critical
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>being a Nyan gosling in the year of our lord 2026
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>>111008362
uguu
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>>111008383
i don't think you had any left
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>>111008307
Are you the nyan gosling who went into therapy after nyan and aethel became a couple?
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I'm just a gosling, there is no particular chuuba I just yearn.
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>>111008383
Damn there's like one cell left in there sugeee
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>>111008410
why did she say that
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>>111008412
No I'm the one who made the video about it
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>being a nyan anything in 2026
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>>111007843
cute
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Do you remember when Filian joined a public VRchat world and a guy started saying nigger on repeat and Pippa was laughing?
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>>111008419
so you're desperate?
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>Watched the Layna poledancing stream

MY FUCKING DICK AAAAAAAGHHH WHY DOES SHE HAVE TO BE SO HOT I WANT TO BE HER BOYFRIEND FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCKK
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>>111008307
I don't have anything against him personally but he single handedly ruined nyans streams
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>̶͇̈́͆͘͝b̶̧̯̯̙̿͆͐̋ë̵͙͕̬̭́̑͂̎i̸̢͙͈͌̈́ͅn̵͙̔ͅg̴̡̮̩͋ͅ ̶͙̜̎̇͊͜ͅà̸̧̹̈͂ ̵̟̗͕̉̑S̷̯̞̀́́͝K̷͔͊R̴̫̈͂E̴̗̾͝E̶̢̮̖̾̚Ẽ̶̓W̴̠͖̱̑̈́Ỏ̶̢͓̤̉ͅW̴̺͈͋D̴̯̦͐͘Ḋ̴͔̍ ̵͖̘̚R̷̛͇̩͔̿̾Ŗ̷͖̌O̸̱͙̒͊D̶̰̯̐̓̈́M̴̮͑̾́͜͜F̸̝̝̈́ ̸̼̖̌͘ḭ̵͍́̎n̶̯̤̏̓͂ ̸̦̭̊͑̽ť̸̢ĥ̴̻͚͘̕͜ḛ̵͙̔͘ ̷̮̀̓̈͠q̸̛̳u̴͔͒̓̚ẻ̷͚̉g̵̬̔͂̕ ̷͎̘͑̃̍͝o̶͇̒̎ͅf̸̜̘̔́̃ ̷͓̘̂͐͊ô̵̥̈͛ü̶͕̼̿͝͠r̵͕͒ ̴̨̩̣̹̑̈́͠k̷̳̩͈͆̎̓̑l̶̨̢̻̬͋̈́̊ỏ̷͕̤̜̄͌̄ͅf̷̪̱͒̈́̎͝ ̷̱̃̂̚7̶̖̖̈́8̵̭̾̒͝1̷̯͈̈̀̋2̸̛̗̤̄̽͌
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you know you fucked up when even batposters are clowning on you
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>>111008450
https://x.com/TheDarkEnjoyer/status/1888239689817075766
he fights for freedom
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Fraiki...
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you know you fucked up when even batposters are clowning on you
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>>111008427
I lost the video, do you have a link? I love that edit
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>>111007864
anon?
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>>111008307
i agree with you unironically
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>>111008460
Yes
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>>111008484
You don't really have to do anything for that to happen
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>>111007954
>>111008028
You guys are so silly. Imagine wasting your time trying to understand if someone over the internet is having a relationship. Watch the show, if it's not engaging enough, watch something else. You just don't want to accept that you aren't having fun with it so you manufacture drama to keep it appealing, but then the appeal is not with the stream anymore but with the drama.
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>>111008519
the trvke of all trvkes just dropped
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Who was the neymar of lig
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Migrating my Jets status here
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>>111008462
You got a good year with her before she break up with you
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I drank 2 glasses of Dr Pepper. It's so yummy. But I need to be careful I don't want to drink it all too quickly.
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>>111008519
>manufacturing drama is when you remember things
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>>111008492
Absolute stream gold
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>>111008519
reddit post
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Nino in 5 years after 8 pregnancies
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Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love amd support
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>>111008492
he killed her
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I wish Lyra streamed earlier, she would be my oshi.
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>>111008462
I liked the rain poledancing stream too but yeah, the layna stream made my dick explode
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>>111008426
https://www.twitch.tv/parasi/clip/PlacidSlipperyWhaleCorgiDerp-TEIFOPteWkrowFBH
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>>111008310
Mentally I view the creation of /flip/ or /BIG/ to be the end of the first /lig/ era. We used to have so many Snackers posting here.
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>>111008344
>is there a new lig emperor on the horizon
But she might be too big.
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>>111008566
he locked in
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>>111008546
>Jets status
Assfrauding with her anterior pelvic tilt. She needs to start squatting heavy.
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>>111008573
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>>111008492
a hero in our time
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>>111008310
Call me a schizo but everything went downhill the last time the OP rules were changed (right after 3am formed).
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>>111008579
I need to see para’s reaction to that
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>>111008492
lmao
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>>111008492
A certified lig classic
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>>111008560
I am drinkin bepis
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Lucy will put her two toes in my mouth
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>>111008615
>her two toes
Lucy only has two toes?
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>>111008634
Yeah she's a two toening whore
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Huh, Bella (Thinkerbella) is a 4view today
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>>111008615
Lucy with hooves being a full demon sounds hot
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whenever halo gives kisses, sometimes it kinda sounds like she is sucking di
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>>111008582
Bigger than she looks
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>>111008650
yes, that's the point
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Mako keeps sucking up to Saru lately huh.
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>>111008614
I drank so much Pepsi Max the regular Pepsi taste weird now
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>>111008615
I made this post
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>>111008650
must be pure coincidence and in no way intentional
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>>111008650
Her catchphrase is "slurp slurp" for a reason
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*squats down, squeezes hard, brrrrrrrpt, a torrent of shit lands on Coquis face*
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>>111008430
Are you saying pinkers are cia assets?
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>>111008667
and zero calories
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>>111008676
I thought that was the whole saliva fetish thing
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>>111008667
Me too I love the cola flavour on max :)
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>>111008683
Are you saying they aren't?
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>>111008588
Jets needs to squat on my dick
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>>111008581
Stop making me miss ocs you're going to make me cry
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@Junifemanon
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>>111008719
This but she picks me up by the dick she will be squatting 82kgs she will have a dumpy in no time
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Was reminded of this and thought frogfags might like the memory
https://files.catbox.moe/7g9i4q.mp4
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>>111008655
heh
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She had to stop the stream midway yesterday and it seems like her shitty misadventure continues
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>>111008762
Someone ITT is for sure jerking off to this
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>>111008762
This brings me flashbacks. Pooper trooper
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>>111008540
Overhyped "golden" talent with a penchant for silly theatrics who never quite lived up to expectations and whose career ultimately went off the rails? Brazilian? Clearly that's you know who.
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>>111008762
>omg liquid
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>>111008757
IM GOING TO KILL YOU
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>>111008450
>>111008492
If filian was racist she wouldn't have gone missing
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>>111008785
bats career trajectory is up only
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>>111008785
>Overhyped "golden" talent with a penchant for silly theatrics who never quite lived up to expectations and whose career ultimately went off the rails
you know how little this narrows things down
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>>111008794
REAL SARUCUK

AND A REAL LIGGEEEEEEEEER
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Barbie love!
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>>111008777
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fucking you dead wife is kind of romantic
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>>111008811
Those were the golden times...
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>>111008744
nta but why it lookin' like she got a bulge :skullemoji:
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>>111008827
Necromantic even
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>>111008827
whats the legality on having sex with your dead wife
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>>111008546
both holes filled with cum
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Fertile Yoro
https://www.twitch.tv/yoroyoyo
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>>111008836
DOKI DOKI WAKU WAKU
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>>111008832
It's okay anon. Nostalgia happens from time to time, good times will come again in other forms.
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>>111008833
She got a bomboclat big pussy mon
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>>111008757
1.0 model was peak, others were beter on a technical level but they don't compare on the feel
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>>111008840
uh oh niggy gonna chimp out
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>>111008842
probably counts as desecrating a corpse unless you can believably argue you didn't know she was dead at the time
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>>111008840
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>>111008842
Illegal.
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>>111008595
GIWTWM
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>>111008861
Is bomboclat the funniest word ever devised by any language?
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bat is hunting rathalos
again
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>>111008842
property damage
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>>111008857
But it won't, I saved this image almost 4 years ago. We didn't know how good we had it
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>>111008891
Yes
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>>111008840
Lucy is racist
(and that makes her hotter)
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>>111008907
She never stopped, she never will stop. It's all rathalos 24/7.
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What if lucy raids bat
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To Halo gooners, when you're watching her are you imagining her she's like sitting on your lap and she's talking to you while making out, or she's sucking your dick?
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>>111008757
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>>111008927
It will anon, I'm telling you as someone who lost his oshi in nam you'll forget about her eventually
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Liggers for this feel?
https://litter.catbox.moe/61dwk4.mp4
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>>111008954
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>>111008939
I'm something of a Racist myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXw-lN7tIDk
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What if Lucy gets cancelled for being racist
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>>111008973
Meat
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>>111008976
back when rockstar had kino aura
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liggers are making me a misogynist, maybe I should stop watching them
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>>111008973
Meat
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>>111008990
Back when they new how to make actual videogames.
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I AM BALLIN

I AM FADED
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>>111008993
Start watching male vtubers to become a misandrist
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>>111008993
Nobody cares or asked niggerfaggot
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>>111008993
Time to start watching Males
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I only watch prime liggers and have never has an issue.
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>>111008927
Remember when these 2 were the canonical little sisters in lig
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>>111008990
I rember the times when you bought EA games and they were good, what an era.
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wait
why did vivi stop using her loli model?
shondo worked very hard on it
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>>111008973
Kek thanks for the clip that's a good one
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>>111008993
*whores are making me a misogynist, maybe I should stop watching them
There I fixed it for you, maybe watch some nice chuubas and restore your faith in the fairer sex.
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>>111008993
real women like misogynists
dont fall for the feminism meme
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Bunny should have put on brown body paint and a rabbit mask for her Lopunny cosplay set
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>>111008993
liggers made me love women but they made me hate women
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>>111008993
lain is so pretty
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>>111008993
>they weren't already a misogynist
FAKE FAN.
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>>111009027
Has she ever even used it? I thought it still needed to be rigged.
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>>111009027
we dont care about those bf havers cuck. Now fuck off.
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It's funny Aethel broke nyanfags so hard they went from goslings to literal faggots acting like they always supported some failed musician grooming Nyan. Not only that, Aethel groomed Nyan so hard nyanfags are now acting as his personal defense lmao
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>>111009036
>real women like misogynists
but why
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>>111009024
Yes
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>>111009050
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>>111009046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIRwP5wIF-A
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>>111008993
>liggers are making me a misogynist
it's a very normal part of the journey to understanding women, you shouldn't worry about it
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>>111009073
no male can ever hate woman like women hate woman.
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>>111009063
>>111009027
samefag
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>>111009027
what does it look like?
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>>111008993
>misogynist
Doesn't this turn on women though?
Women HATE nice men
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>>111009078
before they got old and bitter...
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>>111009024
Yeah, we peaked with the double imoutothon
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>>111009078
imagine those hands giving you a double handjob
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>>111009094
retard
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>>111009095
Shut up bitch
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>>111008891
it also means ass rag or toiletpaper
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poophoe
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>>111009088
delicious addition to my COLLECTION
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>>111009082
why do they get smaller when shes a fur
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>>111009106
Saru was always old and bitter.
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bros my sister started going to the gym and now she's hot, before she was fat, I feel weird.
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I'm getting sad with the nostalgia
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>>111009143
Nobody cares or asked niggertroon
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>>111009144
same
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>>111009143
You need to masturbate to her until you get bored of her
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>>111009143
Have sex with her
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>>111009143
Love the seethe this little comic created.
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>>111009143
>man finds a fit woman hot
HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE HAVE A MOTHERFUCKING EINSTEIN OVER HERE WITH US
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>>111009143
leak her nudes
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>>111009143
grimmi is fit now?
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rememba when filian streamed?
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>>111009073
Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm Erm
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>>111009143
Have sex with you
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loli vivi is lost media
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>>111009144
Anyone have the link to that video that recaps the first year of /lig/ threads?
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>>111009143
post her nudes
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>>111009143
Sweet Home Alabama
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>>111008504
https://litter.catbox.moe/oi9h5a.mp4
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>>111009071
Fuck you! I wanted to fuck aethel before nyan was there!
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>>111009143
the guy in that comic is literally me seeing the hairy femanon
trim that shit and shave it below bush
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>>111009143
She's taunting you. Get back at her by going to the gym too, see how she likes it.
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>>111009201
absolute cinema
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>>111009188
its for the best it was hot dogshit
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>>111009143
Pin her down and sex her
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>>111009219
>broken
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>>111009219
dead...
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>>111009143
>>111009166
This is the answer, if you let it bottle up it could be bad
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>>111009211
Now you can have a threeway. Lucky you.
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>>111009201
Never watched either of them but I'm glad he's sickly and crooked fuck them both. JUSTICE FOR THE PINKER GANG
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i just tapped on a 4chan ad for some sort of indie game online convention because it featured a highly sexualized brown cartoon woman with visible underboob labeled as "big, bushy & untrimmed" i am far too weak
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https://www.twitch.tv/chiwadesu
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>>111009250
they know that young liggerman ojisans are weak to older brown women
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Not a single good person uses 4chan
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>>111009263
sexualise
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>>111009273
Are you saying vtubers can't be good people?
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>>111009273
what do good people use?
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>>111009273
thats not true, many liggers use 4chan and they are good people
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>>111009263
>no more chiwamiwa
fuck this gay earth
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I love Japanese flower fairies
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>>111009273
Olivia Monroe has used /lig/
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>>111009250
I'm sorry anon, but you might be coming down with a case of jungle fever
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>Hal0: The banana flavoured rubber is the best one.

Spoken like a true oral queen
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>>111009273
youre right
fallenshartow is a terrible person
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>>111009289
pickme
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>>111009136
Maybe they're not smaller, maybe they're just compressed because the top acts like a sarashi.
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>>111009276
she just wished she could lay face down in the snow choke herself to death while jacking off
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>blowjobs with a condor
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>>111009307
She'd know, she did a entire condom tasting stream
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>>111009201
Thank
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>the mods just give him a 3day every time
what's even the point
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>>111009289
If she loves Chatty why did she say she didn't find flesh humans attractive right after seeing Chatty at a meet and greet?
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>>111009273
epstein has used 4chan
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>>111009273
There are some good eggs, but also many zoomers who come in and think you have to be a le heckin edgelord to fit in
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>>111009273
Allegedly Krum did but she got scared away by weird posts
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>>111009335
Because she likes Chatty as an abstract gestalt entity and not as human males.
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>>111009296
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>>111009335
the chatty she saw was likely an ugly brown creature
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>>111009325
I love her laugh
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>>111009178
Shes fitting 24 inches of love down my throat
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>>111009337
Yeah and the nazis ate bread and wore pants. You gonna stop doing those things too?
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>>111009361
its definitely unique
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>>111009273
What about a married good person?
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>>111009143
Is she a Vtuber at least?
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>>111009344
My favorite 4chan poster is the guy who is hyper aggressive for no reason and calls you a niggerfaggot like he didn't just come fresh off the boat from reddit. Who are you trying to impress big dog?
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>>111009356
It still hurts me deep in my soul that she lost the files for the Peofish model.
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>>111009344
Their brains aren't fully formed (and never will to be honest)
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This is my first time watching HalO, does she normally sound like she's jilling herself while doing the whole ASMR?
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>>111009366
I'm not doing either right now what's your excuse?
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Lucy should put her fat mound on my face
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>>111009374
Goofy and wholesome. Cute.
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>>111009395
Yes
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>>111009371
>DONT CUM INSIDE ME AGAIN THATS GAY AND RETARDED
>okay morch
>*cums inside her again*
>YOU FOOL
>I WONT BE AS FORGIVING NEXT TIME
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>>111009389
but its right there >>111009356 just use it
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>>111009395
yeah, it's great
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>>111009268
>>111009306
i did it more for the implied bush than the skin color
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>>111009416
>>111009436
Is she actually doing it? She comes off as a genuine pervert instead of a performative one.
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>>111009371
Moriko know how sexy this outfit is, mint or nina should compliment her a lot and boost her confidence. Seeing bat melt from kindness would make me smile
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Saru doesn't know what a chud is.
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>saru: what is a chud?
>10 different definitions from chat
>saru: what's a joj jack, is that that black and white guy
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Did HalO suck off Clancy, otherwise how can she constantly get away with this shit
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>>111009470
lmao
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>>111009419
batatpregnancy
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Chat what is ligger
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>>111009465
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>>111009466
>>111009470
saru is a normie foid at the end of the day
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>>111009219
how about now
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>>111009501
It's okay he's from Uganda so it's not racist.
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>>111009501
Filian's return stream she be her just saying exactly that till she gets banned.
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nyaru is my chubby chuddy
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>>111009501
still fucked with time but oh well
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>>111009501
You can watch this without sound and tell what is happening by Pippa's face tracking alone
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>4 ears
>elf
built for Orcs
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ELEKTROLOKOMOTIVE!
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>>111009519
EVERYBODY IN UGANDA KNOWS KUNG FU
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>>111009449
Brother she did a condom taste test on stream, I don't think it's performative at this point
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>>111009542
clown language
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>>111008757
LOL
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>>111009544
SUPA KICKA
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>>111009488
Yes I have a clip of Neppie saying that
https://files.catbox.moe/jw3bf1.mp4
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>>111009501
average vrc experience
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>>111009544
chat is this real
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>>111008195
Hail Satan
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>>111009571
Lig DESTROYED
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>>111009571
I like when she called chat dad, did downie shondo end up saying that again or was it a one off thing
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is pippa YOUR sister?
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>>111009579
Yeh
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>>111009571
why is she laughing at us like that… not cool…
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>>111009571
Neppie my autistic acquaintance that I no longer watch
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>>111009604
Pippa is my little onahole.
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>>111009571
dumb bitch
hit neppie
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>>111008606
click on "Watch Full Video" :)
but dont do that because shes a meanie
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>>111009604
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>>111009604
yes
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>>111009601
>downie shondo
fallenshartow is the downie
neppie is actually smart instead of just acting like it
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>>111009623
Don't be mean :( she's retarded
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>>111009296
>>111009356
i love peo
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>>111009604
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>>111009571
why does she sound retarded
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>saru: do you guys like yanderes
>chat: they might end up killing your friends and family
>saru: but that's the sexy part!
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>>111009637
>neppie is actually smart
>gave her address to an artist who left shondos community and he showed up at her house
lmao
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>>111009637
calm your tits brah don't be a stuck up cunt
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>>111009650
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>>111009579
>chat is this real
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>>111009667
you are replying to rin, so of course his take is retarded
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>>111009650
performative pickme grifter
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>>111009667
high int low wis
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>halO plucks her pubes
that sounds so painful
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>>111009650
she's so fucking real for that
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>>111009650
i love whatever the fuck is wrong with her
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>>111009650
A chuuba posts this and everyone's like "oooo coom sexy" I post this and you call me an autistic retard

IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>111009699
Yeah, men and women are not equal.
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>>111009685
To me this looks like a legit rambling very horny message, maybe even a little humiliation kink thrown in
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>>111009335
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Does anyone know where I can find Halo's condom-tasting stream.

I need it for...reasons...
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>>111009730
pickme shit
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>>111009734
yeah
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>>111009742
I accept your concession of defeat
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nobody cares what 4chan thinks ok vtubers just use subliminal messages to reference 4chan in a mocking or endearing way because... they really just dont care ok!!!
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>>111009742
Pff performative anon... Not impressed
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I want to huff furry Lumi's nape and rub her tummy
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>>111009734
wasn't that the dog girl that quit a while ago
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>>111009699
Vagina is free pass for life
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Oli has been too much recently, I miss her acting more innocent.
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>>111009730
>went to Weebcon IN PERSON
>didn't do irl meet and greet because she's disgusted by her fans
She went just to party lmao
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>>111009667
Who did that
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>>111009658
She's not retarded just an autistic daughter
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>>111009730
lucy has never said anything heartfelt or true in her life. She's in permanent sarcasm mode
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>>111009786
Lucy is entitled to her privacy. Clip or screenshot of her saying that she's disgusted by her fans?
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I need to be rapped by a bug girl
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*in Snapes voice*
Performatiiiiive, deriiiiivatiiiive, talentlessssss, spinelessss Vchuuuubaaassss
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>>111009779
oli should be more indecent but only in my dms
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checked this HalO girl and she sound almost exactly like vei
its like im listening to vei from a different timeline where she isnt a bitch
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>>111009815
Proof of this?
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>>111009831
nitanya my beloved
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I need to be loved and cherished
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>>111009790
kiirokuma aka renpc
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Pippa's feet
Thoughts?
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>>111009831
A familiar face...
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>>111009849
How much are you willing to pay per week?
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https://www.twitch.tv/yoroyoyo
I like it when these dumb corpos pay our chuubas to play their stupid games and they buy VR tracking stuff and nice snacks
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>>111009857
im not a footfag but i would lick them while balls deep in her
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>>111009875
None, has to be genuine
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What the fuck is she talking about
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>>111009841
just read anything she's ever written
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>>111009853
I vaguely remember this guy going schizo over gura not streaming i guess he flaked to shondo then nep lol
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>>111009875
a decent lifestyle and 3 foreign holidays together each year
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>>111009857
should be in my mouth
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Girl_dm just said Ye Ye again. Is that a Canadian thing, or is DM just autistic?
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>>111009878
I'm not sure of the logistics of that. Can you illustrate?
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>>111008840
>>111008973
kek
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>>111009891
If it's so prolific you should have no problem producing an example
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I miss Nina...
I miss Miia...
I miss Nino...
I miss Krum..
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>>111009667
did her dad shoot him?
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>archive diving cause I'm bored
>Para ate a fucking block of spam for breakfast one time
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>>111009833
Thank you for clarifying it was snape you were doing an impression of
My first guess was Richard Dawkins
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>>111009857
https://files.catbox.moe/28d7s3.mp4
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>>111009922
>british people
>owning guns
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>>111009894
I'll let my sister know, I will (You) you again if she is interested.
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>>111009779
She needs to do a hard split between her wholesome and her degenerate sides.
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>>111009899
She obviously played Anonymous Agony and is secretly based.
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Pleasuring myself with Pippa's feet as she doomscrolls
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>>111009899
i think its both
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>>111009955
smoothie time
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>>111009929
looks more like canned corned beef
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>>111009949
I think shew would lean more into her degenerate side if she had to pick.
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Pillow announcement in one hour
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>>111009929
thats bully beef not spam
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>>111009946
My apologies, I walk around like this
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>>111010005
Plush merch
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>>111010005
bf reveal (me)
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>>111010005
She is going to announce that she is running for president of the united states
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>>111010005
That new Holo gen is gonna go crazy if they bag Pillow
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>>111010005
if pillow graduates i will literally go schizo mode
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>>111010005
Is she also graduating?
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>>111010005
pregnancy
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https://gofile.io/d/n9XLFi
Here's the HalO condom taste test, I uploaded it just now because she's crazy at taking down content
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>>111010005
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>111010024
supposedly not
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>>111010005
who?
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>>111009944
Oh I like that though, that works too!
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>>111007580
Tomoe you slut.
I know you're here.
Anyway you're cute I'd absolutely smash.
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>>111010024
>>111010023
>>111010022
BIG announcement = merch
Important announcment = graduation/hiatus
we've been over this
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>>111009946
I've seen Hot Fuzz I know those township folks are fucking strapped.
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>>111010029
Based! Thank you!
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>>111010029
baste
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https://x.com/CottontailVA/status/2043026157000626459
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Goddamn Silver is hot!
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haha pinis
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The double edged sword of indies is that you need them to be small enough to get personal attention and large enough for them to make enough that they don't instantly sell out to join a corpo.
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>>111010059
ew
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>>111010059
spoiler and put a warning on that shit
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>>111010059
FAT
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>>111010051
this guy cracked vtuber speak
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>>111010066
I wouldn't be upset if my oshi joined a corpo, she gets to chase her dreams and quit her regular job.
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>>111010059
gross spoler that shit
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https://www.twitch.tv/miwa
https://www.twitch.tv/miwa
https://www.twitch.tv/miwa
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>>111010066
and when they make enough to not join a corpo they simply don't care about you anymore.
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>>111010059
This bitch has weird toes!!!
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>>111007580
I'd be down for naizuri horse but I'm too conditioned from her jugs wobbling like water ballons every time she talks.
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birb wife is live
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>>111009945
Warming up Pippa's feet
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>>111010066
DM has said recently that she attempted "something" that didn't work out so we're stuck with her. I'm convinced she's still trying to join Niji so she can sexpest the boys easier.
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>>111010059
obese
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>Shondo: Are we under attack? Always.
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>>111010059
I did not need to see this
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>>111009779
She isnt streaming so gotta keep the simps paying
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>>111010005
ASMR VTubers....
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>>111010118
I don't know who's that is, but she not your wife though.
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>>111010005
Merch. Its always merch.
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Fraiki says she likes eating crickets and that they're like doritos filled with spaghetti.
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>>111010059
EWWWWWW WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
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shes back and hopefully feeling better
https://www.twitch.tv/aquwa
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Alphy doing a new model reveal.
https://www.twitch.tv/alphenavt
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>>111010158
yes she is
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>>111010059
no.
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>>111010059
Good day to not be a feet fetishist
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>>111010128
I know Girl_dm gets more openly horny for Niji males, but I don't think she'd be dumb enough to join a company like that. Also hi other DM poster!
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>>111010169
Fraiki should eat my cricket
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the usual big L for feetfags
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>>111010066
hardly any corpos are hiring these days
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>bat doesn't find leon attractice
what a pickme
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>>111010169
She needs Correction
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>>111010183
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>>111010169
I thought she's Belgian not Malaysian
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>>111010197
>>111010197
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>>111010128
and then she will Sykuno'd them
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>>111010211
She prefers fat bald men with bad personalities.
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>>111009945
too much downtime
https://files.catbox.moe/hqp494.mp4
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>>111010183
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>>111010211
so you're saying shes into fat bastards?
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Does she still have these toggles or nah?
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>>111010059
Well, do we have to burn her as a witch now?
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lol
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>>111010005
Going by how she wrote it, it's not bad, right? she'd have her model on the image and a serious tweet if it was graduation or hiatus
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>>111010211
Bat doesn't find human males attractive
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>>111010128
Not worth it unless she's going for the Dorito, maybe she got pretty deep into the audition process.
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>>111010228
why are you /swarm/tards such sensitive little babies
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfVbRj4ZitE
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>>111010228
You can't just make a fake bread like that Neuro-sama
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>>111010183
Sending caption energy so she feels better
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>>111010059
Did not enjoy this but I'd still dump a load in her pussy and kiss her real passionately with my cock inside
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>>111010248
I don't think it's bad
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>>111010191
She openly supports and defends Niji and loathes the majority of the vtuber sphere who accepts Doki. That's why she doesn't collab much anymore.
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>>111010265
say the guys who complain about /swarm/ being toxic then go back to arguing about which /lig/ger takes more black dick
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>>111010307
Is this genuinely true?
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>>111010295
Right, she'll pull my face into her breasts, not her toes
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>>111010319
>associating what a couple schizos sperg about with the entire thread
you're a faggot and should kill yourself immediately
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In isolation, sarus stream today was pretty good
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which /lig/ger takes more white dick?
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>>111010319
Begone with you Indian. Back to your thread.
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>>111010059
does ozempic not work on feet or something
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>>111010338
Probably.
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>>111010355
bao
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>>111010059
cute toe twins
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>>111010307
I know she supports Niji, but she hasn't said anything to hint she hates Doki or the sphere that accepts her. She's not the type to take someone almost killing themselves lightly.
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>>111010355
Nyan or Vei.
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>>111010341
She just has this aura about her in that she's so sexually inviting.
I don't know how to word this but like she would be easy to sleep with.
I don't mean get her into bed I mean like once you both decided to fuck she'd be very patient and nurturing and open while you prepare to fuck her holes raw and cum inside like you want to drain your life's supply of semen in one go.
You wouldn't need to worry about things you might have to worry about with other girls. And she'd really encourage you to have fun and it's not just all about the girl etc.
Yeah what a sweet slut. I'd love to fuck and kiss and cuddle with cotton.
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>>111010371
Girldm is such a shitty person that it's unreal
She's like the ultimate contrarian of personality.
She likes everything shit and hates everything good and she's just a bitch all the time.
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>>111010185
No she's not.
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>>111010355
more than who, you?
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>>111010478
yes she is
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>>111010436
Yeah I get it
https://files.catbox.moe/3bfskb.mp4
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>>111010211
more leon for me
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>>111010549
pickme shit
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>>111010570
Define "pickme" and explain how this fits that definition
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>>111010601
>uuuu i feel so bad for you all you should all be held you all deserve to be loved and held
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>>111010679
You still haven't explained what's wrong with that statement or what being a pickme is or why that's bad, you just restated the clip
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>>111010679
w-we don't?
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>>111010730
vtuber fans dont deserve to be held and its bad to emotionally exploit people for financial gain even if they are retarded incel manchildren
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>>111010060
Why? Did she post something new
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>>111010773
>vtuber fans dont deserve to be held
Why?
>its bad to emotionally exploit people for financial gain
How is Cotton doing that in this clip?
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>>111010548
Proof?
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>>111010679
That isn't pickme behavior
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>>111010549
tfw i'll never get to cuddle with cotton
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>>111010867
Kinda makes me sad.
She'd be really nice to cuddle (and fuck)
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>>111010238
WMLF
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>>111011126
I wish whores who fucked their fans were real
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>>111011185
kumbomb does
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>>111011185
The roblem with that idea is that it ultimately just becomes prostitution. You can't have sex with every fan who is willing to have sex, so you have to do some sort of gatekeeping process, and that usually involves bidding on it, which kind of defeats the point of the whole 'fuck a fan' thing. Plus there's the whole safety preucation thing and needing to screen every person etc. etc. etc.

I'm sure there's plenty of Vtubers that WOULD do it at least in theory, but don't do it in practice for the above reaspons.
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>>111011287
Doesn't have to be like that. Can just be sometimes



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