>>111042942
Motherfucker is like the biggest cause of holostars revenue loss what the fuck is he doing acting like he's gonna save it.

>>111042982
is it his fault for being hired into a position he never should have occupied?

>>111043035
It's his fault for being the biggest fucking faggot in it and dragging the other boys down with him. I spent money on holostars until this guy came along and ruined everything. Unicorns can never understand the hatred that actual holostars fans have for him.

>>111042942
>I need women
>we are not brotubers
Good fucking luck succeeding then lmao

I thought hate marketing worked?

I used to not give a shit about Stars EN
Then Jurard came along and now I find myself actively hoping for the branch to go under

>>111043076
I get you, I just feel like this guy should have never been hired, let alone retained. It reflects poor judgment on the organizational side

>>111042942
numbers? sounds like a job for /#/, pretty sure he's one of their favorites

>>111043035
Didn't he have to ask Ollie to help him cheat to get it?
lol

>>111043346
I'm sure half of the talents under Cover period had someone help them get in to the same capacity. The vtubing scene is tight enough that most people who had even modest viewership are connected to anyone else within like, two or three steps and it's not really that weird to ask what kind of questions you should expect at the interview.
The problem is that publicizing it is such a ridiculous fucking bad look that drags down everyone else.

>>111043391
That's a cope, many of them have talked about how they don't even meet the new gen until shortly before their debut, which is long after hiring and training.

>>111043076
Qrd?

>>111043391
There's this very old archive of a karaoke stream on YouTube with a bunch holos way before they were holos, so this is completely right

>>111042942
If he wants subs, views, and women, he should start talking about behind-the-scenes Hololive gossip. Women love that shit.

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From "hate marketing" reduced to this, grim.

>>111043391
>I'm sure half of the talents under Cover period had someone help them get in
Explains why their hiring sucks so damn much lately

>>111043571
>magni and vesper meltdown happens, whole branch suffers
>remaining holostars band together and go for a big push
>week full of fun collabs, multiple original song releases, more evidence rolls out that magni and vesper were at fault
>branch reputation starts to recover, numbers begin stabilizing again, a few of the boys like shinri actually find niches and start to see growth
>armis comes out
>questionable hiring all around but a ton of people are worried about jurard in particular for being a pest in his pl
>actual fanbase, not beggars, divided into people who are worried about introducing new gen when the boys are stabilizing and people who want to give them a fair chance, lots of tension
>jurard turns out to be even worse than everyone expected, hate marketing episode happens among other things
>already unsteady fanbase begins in fighting
>jurard brings in a ton of SEA posters AND homobeggars into the fanbase by pandering towards them
>threads become totally unusable, large chunks of the existing fanbase begins to leave because they're getting run out by newcomers
>all the other boys begin to lose numbers because their fans are also being driven out across every single space of the internet that actually watches holostars
>momentum from holostars unity week is completely murdered as the other boys start to lose motivation

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>>111043511
>many of them have talked about how they don't even meet the new gen until shortly before their debut

>>111042982
>Motherfucker is like the biggest cause of holostars revenue loss
Objectively untrue. HomoENs numbers went to shit when vesper started skipping official collab streams and broke the illusion that they had unity.
It's funny because we now know he went to Japan and tried to enter the cover HQ with Fauna and was probably hanging out with Fauna during his meltdown arc.

>>111043766
I heard the older tempus guys don't like Jurard but never seen evidence, is there any?

>>111043854
I quit following holostars after the whole episode so I couldn't tell you. I hate Jurard but honestly it seemed like they were perfectly comfortable with him back then. I honestly might've followed for longer if I thought there was any hate for him in the branch since it'd mean someone was taking the situation seriously but my impression was that if it came down to protecting Jurard or pleasing the fanbase that every holostar would have taken his side over protecting the brand.

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Too little, too late, homos. Yagoo's cutting you off, and now you fags are in a battle royale. Thing is, none of you faggots will survive. What a day, what a lovely day.

>>111042942
It's incredible how much this random dude has mindbroken this board.

>>111044164
Hate marketing works!

>>111044095
Seriously, all you can say is
>you probably should have thought of that earlier
It doesn't take much thinking to figure out the fact that these leeches lived off of the girls revenue and were basically Yagoo's vanity project. And then it doesn't take much thinking to realize that sooner or later investors will pressure him to finally cut off that red numbers money hole.

>>111043922
Actually impressive how can someone be hated not only by unicorns but also by stars fans themselves.

>>111044164
too bad mindbreaking /vt/ apparently doesn't lead to success

>>111044164
>people hate someone who's doing their best to be hated
Shocker

What's funny is how he made such a big deal about his birthday wish spamming to piss off unicorns, and I'm pretty sure the Raian image in his twitter banner is based around that too.

And then suddenly he just stopped, didn't even do it for fucking Mori's birthday, when Mori isn't even anti-homo.

>>111044164
We're watching a train wreck with a bonus in that it was brought about by one of the conductors acting as an antagonist retard. There's nothing mindbroken about this, we're having fun

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>>111044423
Basically this image explains this, just replace "rent free" with "mindbroken"

>>111044423
If you say so. It just looks like the same whining I've seen on this board about mori, kronii, bae, etc. for years.

I'm somewhat new to vtubing and honestly haven't watched much of Hololive at all but what did this guy do to get so much hate? I know through osmosis that he likes to antagonize unicorns but that's about it.

>>111044642
the homo fanbase hates him more than unicorns do

>>111044277
Don’t trust everything you see online. This looks like another case of false flagging, where someone is pretending to be something else just to attack others.

>>111044642
Stars fans hate him for what >>111043766 mentioned. Everyone else hates him because being a loud, antagonistic pot-stirrer was his whole personality at debut
https://warosu.org/vt/thread/97980290#p97981592

>>111044642
>Right on debut he started replying to Doxxsagi who is persona non grata in the fandom for doxxing gura and kiara behind patreon paywalls.
>Brags about how "an insider" basically nepohired him
>immediately starts trying to leech off girls such as claiming to be holotori and replying to all the girls who ignore homos
>spams happy birthday wishes to every girl (most of them ignore homos and every homo KNOWS they do this so they normally don't try)
>eventually has the "hate marketing" meltdown in members stream, where he seethes about idol culture, basically admits he's doing the birthday thing to piss of hololive fans (hate marketing!), bitches about not being able to meet pekora IRL due to apartheit-level segregation of homostars, and says something like "i'm closer to the holo girls than you'll ever be, and they're not who you think they are"

>>111044856
>>Right on debut he started replying to Doxxsagi who is persona non grata in the fandom for doxxing gura and kiara behind patreon paywalls.
NTA but this one's a non-issue. even holomems have replied to him since he's not really known for being such a piece of shit outside of places like 4chan, especially back then.
The rest seems pretty disingenuous and seems to boil down to "he dared to acknowledge that holomem exist," though, which I guess could set schizos off.

>>111045160
>lying
He deleted the tweet and apologized, and your pag-eating doxtard's reputation isn't "contained to 4chan" at all.

>>111044856
This begs the question, why in the flying fuck did this dude even join stars? He joined and his entire "career" so far is just acting like a retard and then getting ignored, if his biggest ambition was to get a bit of attention on a shithole that /vt/ is then congrats I guess but at the end of the day it means nothing and it's pathetic, sad even.

>>111045160
>NTA but this one's a non-issue. even holomems have replied to him
provide non homo examples
>The rest seems pretty disingenuous and seems to boil down to "he dared to acknowledge that holomem exist," though, which I guess could set schizos off.
You're actually right on this one. He's not that bad if you ignore and disregard every stupid thing he's done.

>>111045160
only Pippa interacted with him more

>>111042942
What's the matter, I thought hate marketing worked?

>>111045485
See >>111043649
he's doing "begmarketing" now

>>111044164
It's a case of SEAbrowns jealous of another one of them. Tale as old as time.

>>111042942
Happy birthday!

>>111042942
thanks for the promotion

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>>111042942
Never forget.

https://files.catbox.moe/ssu5n2.mp4
> be quiet about this ok?
> I work with them
> I am not afraid
> why are people afraid for me?
> it depends on the talent themselves, depending on whether or not they want to talk
> that's fine with me
> these type of interactions shouldn't be illegal
> these reactions are just so entertaining for me
> they're actively trying to shut me down
> and they're actively also trying to like defend me for that
> online drama is where I'm at
> the difference about this thing is..
> I have something to gain here
> and you don't

> I'll be as close to them as I'll ever be compared to you

> You'll never know
> This will just live rent free in their minds
> I think I'm this individual that's plagueing their minds, because I'm making these sort of actions
> I'm doing these sort of waves that shouldn't be done
> It's not a taboo okay? Saying greetings or being friendly to your coworkers is not a taboo.
> Your opinion does not matter to me. What matters is, I work here, and you don't *laugh*
> And I get to do whatever I want
> I have the privilege of interacting with them, and you're just there, a bystander, looking at all of this, crying, seething and coping
> I hope you understand that there are normal human relationships involved in this
> They're not gods, they're also human too. Have you even watched their streams?
> They are not the people that you think they are
> They can be whatever they want me.. they want them to be
> Inevitable that some of these interactions get clipped and posted in certain websites
> I don't really care that much
> They won't be able to do anything against me, or anyone
> That's the limit of what they can do, just a bunch of losers, they can just cry, seethe and do whatever they want on the internet
> But they will never touch me
> It's not even worth my attention
> I'm not condoning forced interactions okay?
> Talents will do whatever they want, they will do it themselves
> I'm not forcing anyone to make any begging, collab begging whatever. We are not in it for that.
> "You should collab with this guy or that guy!"
> No, you are not a true fan if you actually say that, you are not a true fan if you force people to collab with one another if they have never interacted once
> Some talents do want to just talk to um, certain talents, and that's it, I do get it
> That is perfectly normal, and what they are in it for. I totally understand.
> But, just saying happy birthday, is that very hard?
> I'm not the one who's mostly talking behind the scenes, it's the community

17:26
> *bookmarks hate comments against him*
> I shouldn't actually be giving these things attention
> But hey, it's free Tea!
> media awareness is a thing in studying communications
> I used to study communication
> this type of thing is called 'hate marketing'
> my name trends a lot, but not in a good way for some reason
> my name is just there, in the wrong ways
> you're also contributing to my growth, did you know that?
> Not all bad things are good for marketing, but I haven't done a single bad thing at all
> You guys are making me look like a bad person, I haven't even done anything
> when people see my "drama" they would be like "so? what's bad about it?"
> so these guys would check me out, and then BOOM, more supporters
> I may have said some dumb things, the period thing, faith, animal crossing, discriminatio- ok enough enough
> segregation*laughs*
> This is honestly a very anime adventure thing. Y'know, throughout any adversity fighting through it, I'm there.
> You're feeding me my fantasy. this is next level.
> I can't help but feel like I'm the main character of this world.
> These villains are just trying so hard, but they will never, ever reach me.
> They will never catch my attention no matter how many times they try
while in the middle of a 27 minute rant about them
> I guess this is like attention, but it's a give and take scenario y'know
> You spread my name, I spread the heinous acts.
> are you not tired of it? are you not tired of my growth?

25:00
> they don't get it. leaving me alone is their best option, but they just never do
> you remember the kitten tweet that I did to ironmouse? that was like, ultimate marketing material
> it honestly started off as a joke because I know ironmouse is like a famous streamer and she can take a lot of blows
> but, y'know, people talk. People spread the word.
> right before debut, great advertisement
> everyone's like probably simping over me, and I thought "y'know what would be really funny? If I say the most outlandish shit ever, and people go *eugh*"
> and then look what happened! tabloid news, everywhere! that was nice
> people would relate to me "he's cringe and based at the same time"
> I was kinda a little bit bonked over that because shikamane at that time thought I was being too controversial

>>111042942
lmao can’t wait to see Homostars EN downsized next just to see faggoty starsisters cry again

>>111042942
Does anyone like this type of overt explicit pandering? Seems very off putting, he should just do whatever changes he deems necessary instead of announcing the changes and why he's doing them.
Though I guess any new viewers wouldn't have been around to hear this in the first place, but why hurt his existing fanbase in the process?

>>111045777
kek I totally forgot he called Ironmouse "kitten" but I hate that grifter bitch so my brain didn't archive it as controversial.

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>>111045777
Trips of luck seal his fate. He who lives by hate, dies by hate.

>>111045914
male flips loved him cause he's their idea of a cool guy

>>111044164
They're mind broken, sure, but the boys are still slowly getting banished to the shadow realm. So who's really losing here?

>>111043766
Is this why /MANS/ is a weekend thing now? I was there from the start but ended up drifting away, I think this was my last post
>>55504574
Was there from the start, suggested the thread's name and everything at a time when some anons wanted to split off as /magnoir/ to try to keep gen unity (>>29041266). One of the earliest magposts too. Tragic end.
Man those early days were fun.

>>111046047
Supporters like Percy alone is enough show that his fanbase isn’t made up entirely of Flips.

>>111046478
I don't get why you post this every Holostars thread.

>>111046435
/MANS/ left for 8/vyt/ after the hack because homos aren't allowed in the Tower.

/#/ and a few schizo-majority oshi splits are the only holothreads that remain here because their nature means they can't exist on other sites with moderation or even just poster ID's. Everyone else left.

>>111045160
>he's not really known for being such a piece of shit outside of places like 4chan
lmao are you retarded? he's despised as everywhere besides his own dramaturd channel

>>111042942
What the fuck happened to his voice lmao

>>111042942
Reminder that jutards PL STILL has MORE subscribers than his current corpo run.

>>111046478
You can tell by the art style that this is some no name game that will peak at 30 players concurrent

>>111047163
He said he's dropping it because it hurts his throat, and because of the Total Homo Death he's gonna start prioritizing his health.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOlC_qoB_L8
What's funny is all the comments basically going
>thank god his voice was annoying

>>111047287
Well now he just sounds like some fat asian guy

>>111046435
"weekend /mans/" is a single /orc/ faggot bumping the thread for two days all by itself with the occasional schizo

>>111047269
Looks like it’s a vn so yeah?

Tik-Tok, your time is almost up you Homo fucks

What about Jurard is attractive to women

>>111043076
So he's your Ollie.

>>111048347
What makes you think he has female fans

>>111042942
why does he need a lot of money? just to put into his pocket?

>>111044164
>mindbroken
he is the laughing stock of the board

>>111048658
So Cover gets money and they don't shut down EN as well.

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>>111042942
Jurard needs MEDS!

>>111048491
>>110258335
>>110262379

>>111048491
Jurard doesn’t focus on female-oriented or BFE style content, which likely explains why his audience is predominantly male rather than female.

>>111049335

Out of curiosity, what do you consiser female oriented content? Like, cozy games or cooking hand streams?

>>111045777
>>111044856
>>111043766

To any anon asking what did he do to deserve the hate, just read these 3 posts and you'll have a good idea of who Jurard is.
Blaffling how this guy is still around when all he wanted to do is stir up shit for "Hate marketing" in hopes to get numbers. Should have been ejected months ago.

>>111044164
Who are we talking about? I haven't watched one minute of this guy.

>>111048491
Its just bizarre he would ask for female fans.

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>>111044526

>>111050282
To be fair, he wasn’t trying to promote "hate marketing". He was just explaining that negative attention can increase his exposure, but the /VT/ ended up twisting it as if he was encouraging it.

>>111050759
I think the funniest part is that he literally doesn't understand what hate marketing is actually

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>>111042942
PUTANGINA

>>111045777
Having read all of this it looks like he's a retard but also, everything he said is something that would bother only autistic people who have problems recognizing emotion

>>111050946
didn't he go to college for hate marketing?

>>111042942
The irony is his debut antics antagonizing hololive base fans are a big reason no one will give them a chance. That and the fact that the only one of them that's remotely entertaining is the clown but he baits so hard to women, you can't really enjoy him if you aren't one. Which is fine, but it puts a ceiling on his growth

>>111051054
From what I heard, yes.
lol

>>111051051
You talk like a Filipino

>>111051054
In this day and age, facts don’t seem to matter as much anymore it’s the narrative that shapes what people choose to believe.

>>111051097
Damn. Dude paid a college tuition and they never taught him to avoid being a pot-stirring cunt under official branding. Either his college was a scam or he's too retarded for the education to matter

I recall him bragging about being closer to the girls then the viewers, sounds like karma came around

>>111051320
That other anon was right, you do sound Filipino. Say something with substance next time instead of vague nonsense

>>111042942
"I will do whatever I can with the cards that has been dealt with me and with the rest of the Holostars"
Spoken like a true ESLstar.

Adjacent to this thread, Crimson Ruze just had a total meltdown live on stream, seething at Cover and threatening to quit.

>>111051090
>>111051316
>>111051233
>>111051274
>>111051304

>>111051633
>Sounds like they did a bad job, no idea how that's the boys fault
How are they so bad at math

>>111051717
They genuinely feel entitled to just leech off the girls revenue forever.
Ruze especially, already ranted about the bean-counters in management and how deciding their value based off that is wrong.

>>111051771
Sounds like he spazzed out about Yagoo as well. This is beyond biting the hand that feeds you, it's tracking down and biting the farmer as well. What a retard.

>>111045777
The big mistake that Jurard made was that he said that he knew Hololive talents better than their fans which obviously is going to piss off fans even if they aren't unicorns. There is a reason none of the other Holostars ever said that before since it's not a good idea to antagonize the Hololive fan base which is many times larger than the Holostars fan base. The comments against idol culture didn't help when Cover was doubling down on idol marketing. They are now encouraging more sololives and releasing an idol style smartphone game. Someone in management really should have told the EN talents to stop attacking idol culture when the company was leaning more heavily in that direction.

>>111051771
guy must never had a real job

>>111051633
IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOOOOWWWNNN

>>111051862
It's weird because Nijiniggers totally understand the corporate structure to the point of coming off as totally stockholmed bootlickers.
Perhaps a difference in hiring practice but I'm more inclined to believe the environment in Holostars really made them this cocky and detached from reality.

>>111051843
That does assume most western fans care about that side when a number always saw that as a distraction from the "important" things (streaming/providing teh funnies)

>>111042942
is the cut funding some management sister psyop? why cut funding if the shitters are still gonna be leeching around pretending like it doesn't matter. was it just another emotional manipulation tactic to use on Twitter niggers? lol just sell these shitters already

>>111051962
I mean on debut the first homos had 1 mil subs as goals. Compare that to ame whos goal on debut was 100k subs.

>>111052107
Classic Japanese "quiet firing" antics, basically make things shitty to drive the targets to quit. Cover has a 50:50ish record with that.

>>111052183
If you mean StarsEN, I would attribute that to Omega's (foolish) aspirations to rival Luxiem. In contrast Myth had no real expectations, certainly not what they got

>>111052331
Yeah but considering that most(all?) stars have less subs that chocos dead 2nd channel, that's more than mere aspiration.

>>111051633
Good. Get the fuck OUT.

>>111052183
problem was most of the early homos saw peko/marine/mori and thought cool, i could totally do that too, without realizing how rare their buffs were and how much work they put in. these sheltered little twinks think they can just play slop of the month and get instantly rich and famous for existing under the dorito

>>111043511
Kek. One homo mentioned the new gen who will debut were already talking on discord 3 to 6 months before their debut. One almost gotten fired for making a sound during a stream of a homo.

>>111051633
>HoloEarth FLOPS
>da boys have to take the fall
so sad

>>111042942
I don't even know who this is

>>111055091
HoloEarth is still more profitable than the homos

>>111055859
whatever stupid porno ad is on the top of this page right now is more profitable than the homos

>>111051051
And yet you don't watch him.

>>111056230
Not surprising desu
Nobody on /vt/ watches streams to begin with.

>>111051633
I bet this idiot moved to Japan.

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>>111051633
Guy should totally do it btw

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>>111042942
>spend nearly 3 years fucking around and doing nothing
>surprised when shit hits the fan

>>111056230
Well no. I don't like him. And I don't think he deserves to be in holostars going by what I read here. But if you get angry at him this much because of that wall of text then you're the problem. He's already dead, let him disappear without amounting to anything

>>111043076
of course it was fucking ollie who got him nepohired.

>>111043766
>>threads become totally unusable, large chunks of the existing fanbase begins to leave because they're getting run out by newcomers
kek this is basically /vt/ nowadays, plus gigacucks too.

>>111042942
why they need it NOW
everything was going well for years
is Cover evil

>>111051633
I'm sure nothing bad will happen to him.
Spoilers: it will.

>>111057916
What are they gonna do, fire him?

>>111057984
thats what im praying for

>>111042982
fpbp >>111051960

> you remember the kitten tweet that I did to ironmouse? that was like, ultimate marketing material
> it honestly started off as a joke because I know ironmouse is like a famous streamer and she can take a lot of blows
> but, y'know, people talk. People spread the word.
> right before debut, great advertisement

>>111058289
Great advertisement for sure.

i refuse to watch male vtubers and i'm not even a holofag

>>111055091
HoloEarth is at least mildly beneficial to the real money makers in Cover, dubais just take resources

>>111058489
/lig/ here
i'd watch them if they were entertaining but they're boring as fuck

>>111042942
>HATE MARKETING WORKS

>>111042942
>Unicorn win by doing nothing
Total
Homo
Death

>>111043766
>jurard brings in a ton of SEA posters
Ah yeah, that would ruin anything.

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>>111042942
shiori died for this flopped homo lmao

>>111062705
The amount of holos on both the JP and EN side that dedicated chunks of their time and reputation to shill these homo failures is staggering and just sad. It amounted to nothing and the homos remained ignorant, arrogant and oblivious to why people don't watch them.

>>111051962
>Perhaps a difference in hiring practice but I'm more inclined to believe the environment in Holostars really made them this cocky and detached from reality.
I blame that on omegatranny starting this whole mess in the first place by pushing a nijification strat and then promising these fags the moon and filling their heads full of fluff when signing them on. Fluff doesn't hold up against hard reality and now here we are. He likely promised them all constant collabs with holos etc., because why else would we get the whole
>by POPULAR DEMAND the convention of the 1 month new debut collab-ban, so talents can build their own audience, has been shortened to two weeks for the homos
iirc the second wave of homos was already planned for by the time tempus came out, considering they rushed that lot out too it stands to reason that the new lot was also fed the same bunch of shit. Advent silenced the omegatranny faction within management, and not a moment too soon.

What I find funny and kinda sad is that some of these morons decided to move to japan. How many? Like 5 of them? And recently too. Who the fuck in management was still blowing smoke up their arseholes as recent as the past year? The writing's been on the wall since fagni and vespest left. Don't get me wrong, they're all a mistake and the company is better without them, but leading these faggots on to the extent that they think it's a good idea to move countries is a dick move. I'll still laugh at them though lmao

>>111042942
never heard of this guy but he sounds like a massive faglord

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Vesper won.

>>111062959
It's REALLY funny that Nerissa ruined her life to shill them RIGHT before it happened

>>111043854
Magni/caspurr mention it, that he doesn't like the newer gen(armis),but i don't remember if people saved the vod.

>>111063234
All she had to do what ignore the comment and carry on as usual, but
>woman moment
and she's a particularly dumb one and so more prone.

I think jurard will save holostar

>>111056464
>Ollie's nepohire causes a branch to collapse
Perhaps she was unicorns' champion.

>>111058289
Mousefag probably loving this.

>>111063211
vesper is on stars record for the fastest cover to hit 100k

>>111063508
to this day I don't know how he strung along the yume kpop sisters so hard just by being a drunk half-faggot with anger issues

>>111043076
Well if thst was true, then you could actually have the courage to I dunno...go against the multitude of people that rot the branding by saying its okay to only watch clips and have the Twitch indie mentality of never spending a dime, but only beg for collabs, and most for getting viral clip drama. The best thing you could do at this point is actively fight the poison on your own side rather than gnashing teeth at unicorns.

>>111063848
he was in the first gen and before his suspension, pretty much perfected the gap moe mask that make women fall for older anime guys. ever watched Vampire Knight? He acted like Kaien Cross.

>>111063848
Gay? Fujos like that
Schizo lunatic that might kill them in a rage over nothing? Fujos like that

>>111063848
Didn't he attract brotuber fans at the beginning?
When holostars EN was announced, there were anons /here/ who hoped that the green orc manages to get in.

>>111063993
he was the mythical stars member that was able to attract both males and females so he had the perfect mix of people actually willing to watch streams, and people that would make fanart, fics, and buy merch.

>>111043766
holy revisionism. a lot of hq fans returned after armis debuted because their gen had weekly collabs and were more united than tempus was.

>>111063927
>fujos
you mean yumes. Fujos were busy shipping him with Regis or something.

What happened? I thought hate marketing was a legitimate strategy?

>>111042942
I cant wait for the next girl to graduate due to "differences of opinion"

>>111064552
Hate marketing is a legit strategy because spergs lack emotional control, but it becomes unnessesary when you realize there are an insane amount of spergs who lack emotional control to the point where you don't really need to put any effort into hate marketing.
Literally all you have to do is have a presence.

>>111063993
People did parrot the "brotuber" thing non-stop, but I realized pretty quickly that the Tempus fanbase really was just faggots and a couple of fujos. /MANS/ devolved into gayposting REALLY fast and Vesper's fans turned out to be the biggest fags of all. So much so that they convinced themselves he was a genuine homosexual.

>>111066496
You can't be a bro tuber if all you do is stream garbage games.

>>111063211
He's based for killing off the holostars as he left. He took a lot of fans with him, but eventually, they left too.

>>111066273
>Hate marketing is a legit strategy
Hate marketing is literally never a legit strategy. It gets eyeballs on you but all those eyeballs hate you and will never support you, so your career ends up imploding, and instead of people throwing you a lifeline they just point and laugh because they hate you and enjoy your suffering.

>>111066273
hate marketing works if you're entertaining enough to keep eyes on your actual content. Think of the five guys vtuber that was able to maintain viewers she got from drama because she's a fun streamer.

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>>111042942
>Jurard needs NUMBERS

As a /#/ numbers representative, I can assure you we don't need him. In fact, we have won and did nothing while the faggots and their fans keep self-destructing KEK

>>111067673
I would pay attention to jurard if he actually played good games and streamed at a real hour.
But no, all slop.
No RPG's
No japanese games
No retro games
Too many collab trash

>>111044526
>>111044164

>>111066496
The brotuber thing was killed by the 39daph collab

>>111042942
>we need to lock in
lmao losers

Video games...
I just want....
Video games....
Why can't my brotuber just play video games?

>>111043035
Jurard and Ollie literally conspired together to get him into the company

>>111044164
This random dude is who killed any goodwill Holostars EN had

Trans rights are not human rights.
All Trans are subhuman.

>>111042942
Him eating shit now and potentially being on the chopping block is very satisfying. This fag made "I'm an obnoxious faggot on purpose" his entire personality and it didn't help him or his faggot ass branch. If he wanted me to hate his fucking guts then I suppose it worked, though it did nothing for his numbers and overall performance. Now people hate him AND his branch is about to get terminated. Fucking faggot.

>>111070079
Traps arent trans you mongoloid

>>111068699
QRD?

>>111042942
suffer homos suffer

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>>111073417
Fagni invited 39daph to Collab with him, she's a woke racist who hates straight white men more than anything and white people I'm general, they banned anyone who mentioned this
Combined with Regis "gotta support the cause" they made it clear who they were and the bro audience left

>>111042942
Maybe he should try to become worth watching then

>>111056461
>But if you get angry at him this much
lol but they wouldn't have something to post about if they didn't get angry at stupid stuff. This board self selects for pointless gossipers anyways.

>>111044817
A few starmin did express a ton of frustration around the hate marketing era because they feared he'd make the other boys look bad. I don't think it ever came to the point of outright hate tho

>>111049416
Respecting the female audience, paying attention to what women actually want, being good at reading between the lines.

Women seem to prefer seiso stuff as a safe bet.

>>111062959
Not only are the homos losing money, but they actively decrease the money of the money makers

I noticed that only in the latter half of this thread did people start showing up to defend Jurard and Armis.

And I have to say. Fuck you people. You're absolutely the scum that ruined the holostars fanbase to begin with and trying to claim that they didn't drag the whole branch down and that they never received a ton of hate back then when the truth is self-evident in the fact that the branchs has declined so fucking hard. The posts are self-demonstrating in how they give away the truth of what went down in reality. The new fans came in, pushed out all the old paying fans, didn't stick around or actually support the boys, and then acted like they never did anything wrong in the first place while conflating everyone who criticized them with the unicorns as if we ever gave a fuck about them in the first place.

>>111051962
Livers get hired knowing they signed up for a death game in corporate form. I don't know what holostars got told but it sure as fuck wasn't reality.

>>111067891
BASED

>>111062981
>5 of them
Actually, only 3 of them. There's another one like Flayjeet but he only stays in Japan temporarily.

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The reason why this guy is hated here in /vt/ is because it's confirmed he fucked Liz, Shiori, Bae, and Ollie

>>111084843
I can't imagine how desperate you'd have to be to fuck Elizabeth and Ollie of all people

>>111080536
Weak bait.
There never were old paying fans considering Stars has been floundering since JP.
The only time they even came close to having a modicum of success was with EN, hence JP being the one on the chopping block first.

>>111042942
Please for the move of God
No more Minecraft
No more playing pokemon like a fucking retard with retarded rules
Just be normal

>>111066862
>because they hate you and enjoy your suffering.
But this here is what motivates many schizos to keep donating money to lolcows

>>111085019
He fucks, and (You) don't. That's all that matters.

>>111087416
The only thing Jurard has ever fucked is "up"

>>111087473
kek

>>111087416
90% of the homofags have admitted to being kissless virgins, the only one with a confirmed body count is shinri and he hasn't been touched in 12 years since college

>>111042982
Was it really? He is their biggest earner EN wise

>>111087547
I cant believe you believe that shit, all idols say that shit

>>111089473
idols aren't usually six whiskeys deep and having a depressive spiral about how worthless they are

>>111089539
There is like hundreds of videos of that very thing dude. Hell i don't think a single idol in the west hasn't done that. Basically a right of passage.

>>111084843
Also, don’t forget Airani Iofifteen. There’s a reason she listens to the Flips song ‘Multo’ it shows how much influence it had on her.

>>111077319
>Women seem to prefer seiso stuff as a safe bet.
Vox Asmr

>>111084843
Also, don’t forget Airani Iofifteen. There’s a reason she listens to the flips song ‘Multo’ it shows how much influence it had on her

>>111089539
Fucking Rushia does this and she has a new man every week

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>>111084843
No, it's because retards like you live vicariously through him

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>>111090280
Your bot is glitching out by the way