>>111154399
get a job

literally who is this?

Her voice and past model are such incredibly wasted gifts.

shondo truked all managers are boyfriends

>>111154464
ex-phase girl that even fishman himself couldn't get her to stream

>>111154464
A has-been. Used to be Gura’s de-facto “sister”, had a decent following in 2020 but is now a complete shell of her former self.

who and who cares

>>111154445
Hi Kana

>>111154621
Who?

>>111154399
what kind of gotcha is this

>>111154399
who is Ace? A previous manager?

>>111154464
I dunno why >>111154621 >>111154678 have to vaguepost, it's Saya Sairroxs from Phase Connect.

>>111154399
Better than being a dogfucker probably

People unironically watch this. Fucking emasculating.

>>111154399
You don't get it Kana. I'm retarded. You need to post a video of yourself fucking Ace. Otherwise I won't get it.

>>111154399
Not Dooby, not care for other indies

>>111154445
Get a better oshi.

>>111156741
Who is this ace anyway

>>111154399
kek based, incels btfo

>>111154399
All of Phase is like this btw. they just aren't retarded enough to say it out loud like her.

I'm not even sure why Phase hired her considering how toxic she is. Most people think she was a package deal with Purin since Purin is well liked and Kana isn't.

>>111159663
her old self was better she made a couple songs, had motivation and something she wanted to prove is when I found her. Looking at her now and how she failed everything a former shell of herself who does not want to do anything but the minimum

>>111159663
Fishman and Dizzy had a weird obsession of getting as many Tsunderia girls as humanly possible

>>111154399
>no one smiled this yet

>>111157672
Her German Shepherd

>>111160657
The Edgy Sheep and the Spider Hag evading them must have really burnt their asses.

Is Ace like her dog's name?

>>111154399
>>111155681
I hope this stupid fucking whore crashes and burns
https://x.com/acewindhover

>>111154399
>manager
she doesn't even do anything that requires having a manager. its her boyfriend plain and simple

>>111160657
Gee why would dizzy want to save her friends
It's a mystery

>>111154399
Isn't this chick a dogfucker? Why would anyone expect anything more from her?

I would unironically and vastly prefer her just getting knotted on camera than her new streak of "let me tell you how much of a whore I am"

>>111160657
>>111167233
Not a single Dizzy nepo hire has really panned out.
They try really really really hard to force Ember into things and she has never fit in with the group
Muyu may as well not even exist she just plays with herself in the corner
Saya you already know

>>111155681

Her dog/boyfriend. She's white.

>>111168025
she's not white (don't know if this is better or worse to you)

>>111155681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfi_gjMx_Z4

>>111159663
Phase wanted Muyu but she forced herself in as a package deal.

How do I become a phase manager?

>>111154399
>schizo easily baits another women moment that makes a vtuber come off as completely unappealing
many, many, many such cases

>>111154678
She never had a decent following 2bh

>>111168439
she watched her own old stream for her anniversary and she had so many more viewers and active chatters 6 years ago than now, doesn't help that she fucked off and died like 4 times in between

>>111168518
she was grifting the gura sibling buff
she was always a very medicore streamer her content was never really anything to write home about

>>111167996
Fishman wont allow Ember to the type of content she specializes in
Muyu only do members streams

>>111154399
I'm pretty sure this is poor syntax.
>should I just say I want to fuck him? though I already did (say I want to fuck him)
not
>should I just say I want to fuck him? though I already did (fuck him)
It'd make no sense for her to say she has a crush on somebody who she's already in a relationship with. She's still retarded for talking about any of this shit and constantly collabing with a guy she's thirsting for in the first place, but I think she worded this poorly and made it sound even worse.

>>111154399
Kana WHO

>>111155740
First time I hear that name.

>>111154621
>>111155740
phasecucks...

>>111155740
Because there was this retarded rule that we have to pretend people's past lives as other vtubers doesnt exist but then people realized thats retarded and these niggas are pushing 40 and balding yet acting like gossiping highschool girls.

>>111167352
Source? For research purposes

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>>111167996
The best piece of advice you can give to anyone in the vtubing space is "Never listen to Dizzy". It's almost poetic how wrong she is about everything. I say this as a genuine fan of hers

>>111156014
absolutely not

>>111154603
Shondo divorced you cucks too, is there anyone but powdur still willing to lie for your money rn?

>>111175623
Brown post.

>>111175623
Kirsche.

I rate Kana as near peak Brat

>Muyu
>Kana
>Panko
>Vivi (Monomogi)
>Su
>La+
>Kobo
>Biboo

>>111154399
her career was dead and it will continue to be dead now

>Kana jokes about making a new soundclip about dating someone
>Chat jokes about it being on 4chan
>15 minutes later, a thread abouit kana is on 4chan
yup

>>111175675
Browner post.

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>>111167996
eber is adorable and funny, actually

>>111168397
>women moment that makes a vtuber come off as completely unappealing
why would anyone care about what she does when she isn't streaming?

>>111176810
people can accept that vtubing is bf/intimacy simulator but they are averse to engaging with this if it is known that the woman has a boyfriend. this is just how humans are, not good or bad

>>111154399
What even is that UI? I don't recognize it at all

Idol culture is retarded and building up on idol culture is unfathomably stupid, if you start giving a fuck about whether your entertainer of choice is sucking dick on the side, then you're too involved and you need to jack off

It's funny to think 'haha vtubers aren't showing their faces coz they ugly and they're failures IRL' but that's just the usual cope, most females out there (ugly or not) can easily get dick and you're stuck thinking that that one girl you keep giving your money to and spending hours of your day watching because you think her voice is cute or she's got a personality you enjoy or whatever, you think such a girl wouldn't get dicked on the daily?

Unsure why anyone would think this reply from her is 'toxic', it's funny, it's a bit 'aggro' and purposefully meant to make you retards seethe, but at the end of the day, she's right, you know she's right, and that's why you're seething

>>111177259
Hi Kanrinin

"I'm going to make myself radioactive to anyone looking to watch me". Alright then, good bye simp money. I hope this is a hobby to her.

>>111177288
I'm just one of the "managers", buddy
Just saying, seething isn't going to help you or make them stop

>>111177319
Ok Kanrinin

There is nothing wrong with having sex.

>>111176781
Didn't she used to be an OF whore though? Not sure I can support that

>>111177259
regardless, you know this to be true: if youre a female and you openly date, youre playing on hard mode, if not nightmare mode.

i personally dont care about the vtuber this thread is about, i didnt know who it was before someone said so in this thread. but that being said, males treat females differently when they know they are single vs when they are taken.

there's nothing wrong with this. but there's also nothing wrong with listening to your instincts and finding another vtuber who doesnt appear to have a bf. vtubing is almost always a gf/intimacy simulator fantasy and exists in the space where this cant be known. i think this is hardwired into humans

>>111177434
>vtubing is almost always a gf/intimacy simulator
Yeah, for (you) maybe. Not for the normal majority of viewers.

>>111177464
hahahaha

if any of the women you watch tell their audience they have a boyfriend, their numbers would plummet. why do you deny obvious truths? i simply tell you how it is lil nigga

>>111177464
NTA, but you're right. There are other vtubers who can get away with having a bf because they have at least other redeeming quality. But if your vtuber is mediocre at games, not funny and on top of all she's taken, then what point is there to watch her?
It's exactly like finding a niche and sticking to it, if your appeal is being a "cute bratty neet" then no matter how much anyone tries to deny it, that's gfe through and through, and you know the worst thing a gfe streamer can do is implying having a bf.

>>111177464
kek redditard and his appeal to majority

>>111177391
Chatterbait. Was okay, if I didn't know she didn't became a vtuber it would have been mediocre.

>>111177464
it's a babysitting medium for mental ipad kids looking ITT

>>111163929
They almost got the job until they said they didn't have a bf. Fishman and Dizzy told them they were no longer welcome at cuckconnect.

>>111176781
Nope.

>>111177391
Cam whore. You can excuse it through poverty and the fact she stopped that. But when it turns out she's ben in a polycule I dropped out. That stuff is a choice and poverty isn't a factor.

>>111163910
oh so she's a white woman at heart at least

>>111177434
I don't believe this to be true, nah, it used to be, or at least, and that's the case for the original idols; it was made to be this way, it used to be this way, 'just appeal to the lonely men out there', and it's a niche of course, still is and always will be, but the biggest and most popular vtubers aren't providing any sort of gf experience, and providing the gf experience doesn't make you more popular either, it just shoves you in a specific niche (like ASMR is, or even 'political', or 'just gaming', whatever the niche may be)

The medium is now big enough (and getting bigger) where the public isn't just a few hundreds of the lonely men out there that happened to like anime girl aesthetics, it's hundreds of thousands of people and most of those people aren't just lonely terminally online nerds, it's just your average joe that just happens to enjoy whatever content the vtuber provides

To make a very simple comparison; hollywood actresses
Do you think people stopped jacking it to angelina jolie when she married brad pitt? (and I mean, replace those names with whatever other couple that you might know about that's more recent if you want)
No of course not, I mean sure, maybe there were a few weirdoes out there whining about it, but at the end of the day, most people aren't autistic enough that they don't understand what's going on; they're entertainers, they entertain you, they're playing a role and you happen to enjoy the role, that's all there is to it, the only difference is the parasocial aspect, the 'I can send a message and she'll maybe read it!!' aspect, which seems huge but isn't, it's performative still, it's cosmetic, it's nothing but surface level, no difference at all here

So I'm not saying you're completely wrong, there is truth in what you're claiming but it can be completely wrong depending on what niche you're trying to fill

>>111177904
>But when it turns out she's ben in a polycule I dropped out
Camwhore and poly. Does she really have an audience despite this? I actually already know the answer but still

>>111177586
What about the dozen girls that (whether willingly or not) were shown to have bfs? Why are they still active and their numbers still up?
I know you like parroting this to yourself, but the data just proves you wrong.

>>111178137
There are indie vtubers who confirm that vtuber orgies exist, you have other vtubers who will run a fanslt/OF on their alt while their vtuber fans think they are lonely and hope they get married.
The cotton/buffpup fans pretty much confirm this medium is dead in the west and that EN was a mistake. I really wish I just kept up my Japanese reps.

>>111154621
kana was a menhera long before phase
she hated her community so much she tried to silently change from Youtube to Twitch and then months later did the same thing from Twitch to YT.

>>111177588
Right, basically what I was trying to get at in >>111178132
But I think the whole GFE thing is a much, much smaller niche than one might think, wasn't the case eight years ago for sure, because Vtubing itself was a very small niche and so the overlap was significant, but not anymore, and the amount of girls that are in any way relevant and only do GFE (and as you say, probably because they can't do anything else) is small itself

Another thing to keep in mind is that this is 4chin, and a lot of people here are so terminally online that their entire view of the industry (let alone the world) is skewed as fuck and probably more likely to indeed have a huge interest in girls that provide that experience, but the numbers don't lie, most people don't give a fuck and it's not even close

>>111178278
Ain't saying I disagree with what your saying but I'd like to point out gfe isn't primarily broadcast on YouTube any more, a lot of it is on alternative sites and behind paywalls and It's fucking massive. Some of the VAllure girls are making hololive amounts of money.

>>111178221
I think it's sad that male vtuber fans just want a relatable female streamer really. But time and time again we become reminded of how impossible that seems to be, even in a space as nerdy as anime and otaku culture

>>111178851
The worst ones try to be relatable.
>Uwu guys I'm a virgin femcel, I'm touch starved just like you.
Then you have a bunch of shit showing she was using tinder or dating, etc. I don't even hate a bunch of vtubers who don't bring up their relationship/sex life, I have no doubt Sleepy and Runie have gotten dicked down a bunch of times. The thing is they don't make being a lonely girlfailure their brand, nor do they keep talking about how they are so sexless, struggling, etc.
It's funny the ones who try to go for the relatable o,age are the wrost streamers ad they have nothing else going for them, hence they lean into it.

>>111178814
>Massive
Money wise, yeah, sure, but that's just the whale syndrome, most people are free to play or spend very little, but a very small percentage spends so much that they 'make up for it'

Maybe there's a point to be made about the 'difficulty' or reaching those different niches; being good at games requires a lot of work, so is being funny, and I don't really consume that content but maybe if you have a nice voice then that's all that's necessary to do GFE ASMR? I don't know, is it a lot of work? I guess you don't even need to write the scripts yourself now, just have AI do it for you? Maybe then yeah, it's easier to just do that then stream and try to keep people's focus for more than a few minutes of them oggling at your huge bouncy anime tits
But the easier a niche is to fill, the more of them and the faster said niche will be filled (I guess the current drama of the month with sykkuno & co is a perfect example of that), low quality entertainers are easy to find because what gen Z girl doesn't want to be a streamer, and better yet, you can just use a 2D avatar and you don't even have to wear makeup to do it now, and then you can just start taking pictures of your tits and sell them for 600$, I wouldn't really compare them to 'popular' vtubers with actual numbers, tho, even if they do make money

>>111178132
>>111178167
>gf/intimacy simulator fantasy
when a woman feels safe and free enough around you to tell you what she genuinely fears, and to be silly with you and talk sweetly to you, this is intimacy. my main point is that males are hardwired to respond to this, to interface with women in this way, and this is the foundation for vtubing. vtubing as it is would not exist without this. i do not think this is bad, i'm just saying that the money and attention simply wouldnt be there or exist in greatly diminished form. you also dont need to be a loser or lonely for this to be the case, but i do think these are force multipliers.
contrasted with explicit gfe, which i would define as the above except more explicitly stated "i love you" "i'm so glad im your girlfriend", etc. and openly understood to be the case. i am not talking about this

i think that it's possible for vtubing women to be successful but improbable, exceptions can exist, but it is much more difficult and taking much more time. i doubt it would be worth it for most, they would find something else to do. without the buff of being an attractive women and perceived/experienced as such, in my opinion the examples you're talking about are survivor's bias.

first of all, i think they would have much better odds if they have already established a sizeable following within the unknown grey area of "potentially single" before they revealed they are dating someone. am i right? did the ones you have in mind talk about their relationships all the way through or, being conscious of the financial implications, withhold it until they were more secure? i dont judge them, that is what they should do. it would be retarded to reject a great guy because of what chat thinks.

it is naive to say that the reason why vtubers dont typically talk about their relationship status is something like "privacy". that may play a role, but the actual reason is money, and a damaging of current and future financial prospects.

and i can almost guarantee that most of these ones youre talking about do not even semi-regularly talk of their partners "my boyfriend is thinking about doing this". this is because if it's out of sight it's out of mind. the fantasy is experienced, "dont think too much", even if it's out there you forget it while you're watching them

i want runie ruse, and everyone, to find a great guy and be happy. but if she is partnered then the experience of watching a runie ruse stream would simply be different and to be honest i would probably not watch, or at least watch far less. i do not literally think that runie ruse is my girlfriend, but she is lovey dovey and silly. she is beautiful, but this a fantasy, and the fantasy is attached to a real person. if she was married it changes it. this is not good or bad. and this is not to say that she is not entertaining. she is very creative with her streams and is a hard worker. it's just that intrinsic to runie ruse streams is this girlfriend-coded vibe. there is nothing wrong with this.

it also applies to less "lovey dovey" ones like sleepy or even pippa. there is no precise point which denotes "neutral" entertainment, entirely devoid of the potential for attraction. it's that this is a woman and i'm a man, and this is hardwired, this is how it is.

and i'm not even talking about those guys who would whine about the vtuber having a relationship. idk this is what i think. vtubing is able to exist BECAUSE of this fantasy grey area. this is not something to be "overcome" with "maturity"; it is irrational(not bad or something to be correct) and baked into the cake of the human male. if it is known that the vtuber has a bf then i think most of the drop off in average joe viewership would be that a switch would flip off in their heads and they would simply stop watching.

>>111154399
The manager pipeline is real.

I found this new lewdtuber to masturbate to, called Feyremi-something, and while catching up on some of her old vods on Rplay I hear her start talking about her manager... So I went to check her Xitter and turns out it's her husband. lmao

Saya

>>111185124
>deadname
kys

Super sayan