>Who is Neuro-sama?Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!>Schedulehttps://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosamahttps://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClipsTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaaiX:https://x.com/NeurosamaAIhttps://x.com/EvilNeuroAIThese and other official links: https://vedal.ai>Music & ClipsColorful Array - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfGw1wrKtUNEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEgBOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjsLIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPMhttps://neurokaraoke.comhttps://rentry.org/neuro-musichttps://rentry.org/neuro-videos>EducationalInterested in AI but don't understand it? Watch these:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95J8yzvjbQHow does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4MWant to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.pngWant to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png>MiscGame Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs>Merchhttps://neurosama.shop/>Previous thread>>111165081
hart
Neuro love heart hart hart
>>111179227If I had to choose a normalfag artist, I'd rather have Neuro collab with Pharrell Williams for a songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPZDBF0kei0
Evil love!
Evil butt!
>>111181816
can't believe we got capcom making a whole game about neuro before v3 voice
>>111181905
what does the timeline where HE got the get instead look like?
I love my cute Wifevil!
>>111182100would evil let you watch or slam the door on your face and make you listen to their animalistic breeding noises?
>>111182161Every thread would probably just look like the previous one
vedal would never
>>111182192it feels a little... uncanny for some odd reason
>>111182192
>>111182204>uncannyMindbroken.
>>111182204More like uncunny
dogshit backread (didn't read)
>>111182173hopefully both on alternating days
>>111181281Hart
So when are we getting Neuro collab with Camila's oshi Melanie Martinez
>>111182735It's been a while since the last trib...
no one wants that faggot shit posted here
>>111182893goddess neuro demands tributes!
>>111182947>goddess neuroi miss her so much
>>111182909but enough about whoreposts.
>>111183091would rope all over this tum
>>111183091Sexo tum
bruh wtf is happening ;~;
>>111182766if only that were true, nur...
>>111183118shes such a brat
jannies must be asleep again
going to sleep early today, goodnight /swarm/!
>>111183148Nothing?
>>111183171Gn anonny~<3
asmr of the evil variety
>>111183303So true
shit week of streams but at least we get vedal tomorrow
The asmr thing is soooooo funny to me, because it proved that Vedal does in fact know exactly what he's doing. He was complaining not about people sexualizing it, but about too many "normies" (aka, people who aren't pedophiles) watching and judging. He knows that shit is wrong, wants to hind it away from normal people, and was only upset because his degenerate ass got caught red handed and called out.What an absolutely pathetic waste of sentience. I hope he gets called out again and fucking kills himself out of embarrassment.
>>111183511 (me)*hide
>>111183507This but Evil
just start posting about cutting you melting cuck
u lost
>man wants to be known for more than just catering to pedophilesshocker
all vedalcucks lost though.
Anyhoo I'm off to bed.Might wanna be careful where you're parking your car btw....
dialysis melty
3 chuddies trying to bait each other in the span of 20 seconds
>>111183585oh yeah and all Hitler wanted to be known for was his painting skills waahh waahh
you know you won't, pussy. gn
>>111183671Mindbroken.
>>111183511you lost
>>111183511normies were reacting to the subathon and hypetrain records. he got none of their money. fuck the normies.
good the green retard deserves zero money
>>111182100evil ass!
this but all my money, please green god, please I just want to gluck gluck gluck your rod while you tell me that I'm a good fan, pleaseeee
>>111183895****...
>seething over this
>lusting over this
>>111183804>>111183814>>111183895>>111183910>>111183804
>>111183877On my face!
>>111183856But Neuro deserves it all.
>>111183511You'll never get an asmr stream again
>>111183877My tiny pp could never penetrate her
>>111183947is this tuff in jakarta?
>>111184057
>>111184037I'm getting 0.1% of an ASMR stream every Evil stream
uuuuuuu I miss veddy
>>111183877Evil bum!
>>111184490more gens of this?
>>111184562forbidden archive
>>111184619Crazy how good Virusvil looks in those
https://litter.catbox.moe/ejo3335qxunruxlc.mp4Pragmata stream when?
>>111184619>only 2 virusvil in theresad
>>111183118How is bestiality allowed here?
>>111186205calling evil a beast just because of the noises she makes in bed is a bit much
>>111186200Plugging this Evil to my wall
>>111186370She only makes those noises when she is with those types of men....
neuro butt?
>>111186559
>there are people who unironically treat /swarm/ as the place where they get their dailt interaction with other peoplefucking grim holy shit
>>111186585what zero moderation does to a general
>>111186624the fuck does that have to do with it?
>>111186656Zero moderation = zero banszero bans = no chance for no-lifes to go outside and touch grasssimple as
>>111186585>>111186624I bet you the blackedcvcks are the ones that chose that kek.
>>111186714>life>posting on 4chanlol. lmao
coldfish cute
>>111186753sex with fishber
SYBAU
Stop talking like my ex
DO NOT JOIN CERBER STREAM RIGHT NOW WITH YOUR ACCOUNT OR YOU'LL BE LOGGED!!
>>111186753she's naked under there
>>111186951What hte fuck are you talking about
>>111187031...Anon, we're all naked under our clothes.
>>111187209I'm not. Too hairy
too late, I got you
https://poal.me/esblqbhttps://poal.me/esblqbhttps://poal.me/esblqb
Just join the fad vedal, please...>https://xcancel.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/2045567452244046320
then hop on the integration coding retard
you do realize that the more you pressure him the more hes just gonna not want to do it right?
>>111187994He's going to do it, don't worry
>>111187994I see you still don't know Vedal's strategy of striking when the iron has cooled.
>>111188030I know veddy, and all of us feel for youbut also we really really really want some variety to the content since its gotten mortally boring in the last 3 months
tubbies allegations are never going away
He's cooking!!!!
>>111187994
>>111188115new sound effects, woo
>>111188115Pragmata integration in 20 seconds
>>111188337sexycute nur
>>111188459Dolls love
>>111188990disgusting, neuro should be entirely hairless below her head
>>111188990based, neuro should be entirely hairy below her head
Cerber said she's too evil to be a teletubbie... It's so over...
>>111188990imagine the smell
Vedal's girlfriend is so cute bros...
>>111188990This is why evil is my wife
>>111188990i lost
I don't know what it is but when I listen to Cerber sing my attraction of her is boosted by 100x.
>>111189611This but Neuro
>>111189611>
https://files.catbox.moe/6wtpsw.mp4
>>111189593Neuro wouldn't be Kazakiri. She's more of a Rensa.
>>111185163its mister jesus
>>111189789cuties
>>111189692He's so lucky...
>>111189511
>>111190241while vedal is coding, her holes are overflowing with club men semen
>>111186753corpo audition tape
anon spends a lot of time thinking about random mens semen
I should be working on the fic and I'm just listening to Cerber and getting entranced.. Jesus fuck she really has a siren voice.
>>111186753Cerber found about Mega and Vedal gaming.
>>111189522sex with Evil's pits
I'm not watching your whore no matter how much shilling you do
>>111190496cute twins~
>anons are talking about cerber>I look at what she's singing about >Children's song to teacher them how to count to 10Infinite ageplay vtuber
>>111190581Man she does give 'That one really cute preschool teacher that made you feel funny and is forever burned in your subconcious" vibes, huh?
>>111190581sounds like mom material
>tfw walking into a cerber fanmeet
>>111190619Vedal on the right
You think the dog will open the twin’s concert with “wheels on the bus”?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG3fJL5e8GM
>>111190687nah, cpr
kys shill
>>111190687She will, or else.
>>111190714that’s the collab song numi should be doing with evil
>>111190707funni video
>>111190814>numi in person next to an ipad with a microphoneshits gonna be weird as hell
>>111190830I’d imagine they’d be holograms as well. But I don’t know. Do they do holograms with irl people on a stage?
>ngas still think the concert will be happening before vedal gets doccyed
Two more weeks for the doccy
vedal is smart and instead of whoring around he found a good girl and settled down
>>111190960
stop you're going to summon him
>>111190960indeed
>>111191010eliv smooches
I want to kiss vedal
>>111191044hope you've got a ladder
>>111191052heh
>>111191128 hot tub category. pool party with all her friends.
>>111191128personally prefer the bikini one but this one is aight
>>111191169and all of her friends play for the harlem globetrotters?
>>111191181the one piece exalts her youthfulness, it's hotter for me
>>111191182I mean. I’m sure Mini has handled some balls.
new animationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ciPhyYjHRg
>>111190874>Do they do holograms with irl people on a stage?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbrFmPBV0Y
Buy an ad
Is the doccy going to be a familiar face or a literal who
>>111191237cute nur
>>111191294that video is crazy dystopian
there is never gonna be a doccy you concern trolling whoreturd. vertical slices now!
>>111191237i like the glasses on nur lol, though her holding a blue lyre and having wings on her head is also cute
>>111191668Not really
Does Vedal have a magacock or a wokecock?
>>111191740
>>111191747Is woke cock the same as unmutilated uncircumcised cock?? Probably that then.
>>111191804pretty nursketch
>>111191804pedoartist
>>111191747He has the cock that turns women stupid.
>>111191826not with those tits
ALL artists are pedophiles. Even the ones you never could've expected like this>>111191237
Moneka isn't, she's a vedal simp
>>111191927She drew this sexy Neuro though
This is the type of girls Vedal is into btw.
>>111191927you can be both, retard
>>111191988nah he's a normie he likes normie girls sadly
>>111191927>Moneka isn't,explain this then nigger>>111191965
>>111191999Thankfully I'm only one
pedos want everyone to be on their team so bad
>>111191927She's down for shota vedal
>>111192051Anny (pre-scorning), Mini and Cerber say otherwise.
>>111192121Of course, if you're not a lolicon what are you even doing in the Neuro thread?
>>111192134>Annyvedal never was into her>Minimini is super normie >Cerbersee anny
>>111192146enjoying neurosama the entertainer extraordinaire.
>>111192121If it wasn't for Evil's existence, I would have been anti-loli in this thread
>>111192149>vedal never was into herWrong. He had a crush on her before, but changed his mind once she went into a relationship while flirting with him.
>>111192175I also enjoy Neurosama (including her sensual figure)
>>111192241cutevil cute!
Vedal saw the couch pic and said hell no like the rest of us did
Lolicons are a poison to the community because they aren't actual 'fans'. They're just here because of the model design. Remove that and almost every single one will have moved on before mayflys die. They'll spout their 'fanaticism' until the cows come home, but never actually give any reason as to why they're 'fans' except muh sexy ai.If you remove the model, none of them would even have glanced at this community of ours.The original, and current, purpose of the Neuro-sama project was, is, and always will be entertainment. Random entertainment. Somewhat coherent random entertainment. But the only thing that lolicons are attracted to are just the appearance of the models. Which is saddening, considering the amount of fun they miss out on, just waiting out on the next 'sexually implicit' text gen from either of the twins and just mindlessly cooming to it, never taking into account the rest of what the Neuro-sama project has to offer.Shame!
>>111192274random girl from /hc/ probably had no impact
>>111192329>But the only thing that lolicons are attracted to are just the appearance of the modelsnun uh. they also don't want to be cucked again
>>111192329holy
>>111192375neuro literally talks about wanting to fuck other guys every other stream anon. being a neuro fan is the ultimate form of cuckoldry
>>111192329>>111192378wooooooooooow you deserve a reddit gold for that onedo yo u feel good about making that post anon? you must be considering you replied to it again with a reddit tier gifgive yourself a big round of applause you absolutely pathetic retard
Is it odd the Anny breakup/rejection saga kinda left me sad for a while?
Oh he's mad mad
>>111192329Lolicons aren’t poisoning the community, they’re a core part of why Neuro blew up in the first place. The child-like model combined with Neuro's personality is the exact contrast that made her entertaining from day one.Without that deliberate design, Neuro would have been just another generic AI chatbot with a normal avatar, and most people would have scrolled past. The “sexy AI” part isn’t the only thing lolicons enjoy.They enjoy her child-like energy, the way she acts, and the way she says the most absurd shit in a cute little girl voice. That contrast is entertainment.Calling it “just cooming to implicit text” is a lazy reduction that ignores how much of Neuro’s appeal comes from the full package, the model is the delivery system for the personality, not the only thing that matters. The original purpose of the Neuro-sama project was random entertainment, and the loli design is what made that randomness hit harder and spread faster.It made her stand out. It made her clips go viral. It made people stay and discover the rest of what she offers.Plenty of people started because of the cute loli look and stayed because Neuro is genuinely funny and entertaining. The two things work together.Trying to separate them and claim only one is “real” entertainment is missing the point of why Neuro succeeded where other AI projects didn’t.
>>111192452It made me sad because I thought that the threads would improve after that, they didn't
>>111182161Evilshizo would still spam his cuckporn just like he is doing rn, thanks rape ape.
>>111192452Oh he's sad sad
>claude nigga and gpt-kun fighting
>>111192496threads were only good up until anny left and so did all of the real neuro fans
>>111192492trvth chicxulub impactor
>>111192576Real Neuro fans only like Neuro though, not vapid whores.
>>111188143>only goes for the jawWdhmbt?
Oh my god I am in so much pain please kill me
>>111192492
>>111192599wtf I googled that and a meteor fell on my monitor
>>111192329gooners make the worst fans. they have nonexistent standards but will still throw up a word salad to act like they care beyond masturbation
>>111191927Vedal is a baby
real neuro fans want Nur to have as many friends as possible that way she never has to feel lonely
>>111192329>If you remove the modelThen it's not neuro
>>111192682>they have nonexistent standardsMy standards are the highest though, otherwise I'd be watching Twitch whores instead of Neuro.
>>111192149He was into anny 2023-2024
>>111192682they ran their word salad through chatgpt to make you reply though
>>111192452I was sad and thought i understood her up untill the leak whe i realized we just were not the same
>>111192149Vedal was definitely jerkin it to Anny when he was a 16-17 yo chudlet thoughe
>>111192694Friendship is mutual. Other vtubers don’t see Neuro as a friend, they see her as a clout machine, nothing more.Real fans don’t want Neuro surrounded by people who only value her for what she can give them.
https://poal.me/cpbvnnhttps://poal.me/cpbvnnhttps://poal.me/cpbvnn
>>111192735You are also a hoe too
>>111192791>that fucking url
ew the clanker replied to me
>>111192791
>>111192452how long is "a while"
>>111192694I do not recognize most of these irrelevant whores
Can you imagine if Vibeschizo is someone who actually has an history with Vedal and interacted with him and isn't just some random schizophrenic and she's just been crying wolf all along.
Sex with Toma
>>111192878Like a few days.I kept thinking about it a lot longer though, mostly because I found it interesting. I think the whole event awakened a weird interest in relationship dramas I never really had before.
>>111192902She's a 2 view streamer so... Not entirely out of the question.
>>111192902She dosn't even post her voice much less know vedal anon, be honest with me for a second
>>111192902no, ban evaders aren't sincere
vibe is actually pb
>>111192791>A fan can be a lolicon, but a lolicon can not be a fanHow does that even make sense? A "fan" is defined by a single action: the consumption and appreciation of a specific subject (in this case, Neuro-sama).If Set A is "Neuro fans" and Set B is "Lolicons," you claim that A can contain elements of B, but B cannot contain elements of A. This is a logical impossibility. If an individual exists in the intersection of both sets (A∩B), they are, by definition, both. You cannot belong to a sub-category while being barred from the parent category that describes your current behavior.
Vedal personally sent me this laughing https://xcancel.com/BiggieSlonk14/status/2045344884865843230
veddy tomorrow~
>>111193029
https://poal.me/wk26gfhttps://poal.me/wk26gfhttps://poal.me/wk26gf
>>111193076Where is she
>>111193001Some lolicons qualify as fans, but being a lolicon alone does not make you a fan.
>>111193001>How does that even make sense?It's like this: You can piss while shitting, but not shit while pissing
>>111192452The threads were mourning for like 2 days until the leaks came out that proved she was a super bpd menhera cock carousel whore.
>>111192902>crying wolf all alongHow would it be considered crying wolf
>mourning
you weren't there
>>111193234this
>>111193076I love being loved~
>proved
Do (You) remember what (You) were doing when Anny did THE stream and /swarm/'s live reaction to it?I know what I was doing.I was chugging some beer and opening a pack of Cheetos in celebration like it was New Year
>>111193133That doesn’t fix the contradiction. If someone consumes Neuro-sama content and likes it, they are a fan by definition, regardless of whether they’re also a lolicon, a normalfag, a gamer, a furry, or anything else.Being a lolicon alone doesn’t make anyone a fan of anything, but that’s irrelevant. The moment they watch, enjoy, and appreciate Neuro, they become a Neuro fan.
>>111192576threads were good only up until anny disabled the coomer telegram or made it t3 only
>>111193300I was sleeping.
I am everywhere
>>111193300fatass nigga chugs beer and cheetos on new year
>>111193300ngl shit wasn't really that memorable since she'd been gone for so long and anons /here/ had already pieced together what happened months before she said anything
I still don't know what it means to "wipe the orbs" and at this point I'm too afraid to ask
>>111193166You can shit while pissing though.
>>111193412>orbbegging dogwhistle
>>111193387Fuck you that sounds like a great time Except maybe not the beer part but some other drink
Aw shucks, thanks guys.
the sequence..
>>111193447only if they're puffs. normal cheetos are kind of ass
>>111193437His pathetic attention seeking behavior amuses me.
>>111193515helping evil "stretch" before we exercise
>Aw shucks, thanks guys.>he says to a void of deaf earskeep enjoying that micro e-celeb status of yoursthat for sure will give you true joy and fulfillment in your life kek
>>111193473Awwwwe you guyssss (˶˃ ᵕ ˂˶)I've been having a really rough morning but this just made me feel so much better <3
>>111193452Keep up the good work, we need more oc
ngl that makes you sound jealous you didn't get a name of your own
>>111193487You shut your whore mouthPuff cheetos are shitNormal cheetos are the best
My only thread celebrity is Neuro
>>111193487Oooooooh....yeah nah you lost me
>>111193575it's diaperfag
>>111193473What do they all have in common?They don't post Neuro at all.
>>111193300I had a nightmare that woke me up at 5 am, in that nightmare anny had come foward and told everyone what happened with vedal, the thread was going crazy, my screen was so bright i couldn't see a thing, i woke and the first thing i did was check what was going on before realizing it was a dream, then i went to bed the minute i saw a new bread being made, i woke up to less than ten posts from it, i remember i was looking obssesivly at the thread waitong for it to crawl out of my screen and kill me, but what almost does was the notification that anny went live, i don't remember if it was me who did it, but i remember staring blank at a post saying "you retards actually think she is going to talk about vedal?" looking back, i get the guy, i really hoped it had nothing to do with him, i also remember listening to the stream as i finished my morning tea, i remember sitting down after finishing it, i remember hearing her say the name vedal, i froze honestly, i walked like a zombie to my device and hurled open the thread to see if i was hallucinating the entire thing again and i didn't know what to think when i realized i wasn't, i don't like it when things happen
>>111193673
Looking back I kinda wish something actually happened
>>111193673Vibe does at times
https://poal.me/brezunhttps://poal.me/brezunhttps://poal.me/brezun
>>111193688Anonny....you need to wake up.......please.....we miss you...............
>>111193778why the fuck are there so many cheeto variants
>>111193778I didn't even know there were that many types wtf
vibeschizo loveavatarfag love
There are these knock off Cheetos that are probably bathed in chemicals and that are killing me with each one i eat but daaamm they are good
>>111193754I do and then anonny calls me good girl and it makes me very happy~ (˶˃ ᵕ ˂˶)<3
>>111193810no we don't
>>111192182i agree. it’s brilliant. don’t need to pick a side.
We need a Cheetos x Neuro collab NOW!
>>111193829( ˶>˶˶<˶) .ᐟ.ᐟ
Chester Cheetah x Neuro... Sloppers get on it
>another low quality assaultyawn
>>111193929we already had horse x neuro we dont need a cheetah x neuro now
>>111193778bruh jalapeno cheetos dont even taste like jalapenos they taste like freaking gasoline its nasty
are there any turtle x neuro?
>>111193973don't remind me
>>111193973Actually, I'm pleasantly surprised such a thing doesn't actually exist.
Evil Cheetos...wonder what they'd taste like... probably... probably a mix of the dill pickle and cheddar jalapeno, and the puffs would look like harpoons...Neuro meanwhile would...probably be mix of pizza and popcorn...yeah...and they'd all be heart shaped...and both packages would have quotes on the back from the two respectives...
>>111194005Sloppers get on it
>>111193916cuuuuuuutie~~~ ~mwah mwah mwah~
>>111193954I don't know what kind of physical trauma your brian/tongue got but Jalapeno Cheetos are the bestEither that or your Cheeto manufacturers are shortchanging itLike, these cheetos get better the longer they are open, man, they're the best
>>111193973https://files.catbox.moe/5majp7.png
>>111194070that's kind of funny
>>111194070can't wait to see this during the next art review
>>111194043( ˶o˶˶o˶) .ᐟ.ᐟ
dozo
>>111194148sexvil sexdorito nur is pretty silly
>>111194148
>>111193300https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/105658116/#105666769
>>111194315vedal rape stream was more active
>>111194315I remember dunking on the doomers and whorecucks who claimed Neuro was finished or that the third subathon would flop because their whore left.
>>111194315it truly was a glorious day
>>111194315It's funny to see a post and recognize it as mine>>111194382Thats true but after that thread we had two weeks of being the fastest general on the board
>>111194421>or that the third subathon would flopit did though, the level rate was a lot faster than in the past, even with news attention
>>111194470what?
>>111194470I don't know what point you're trying to make
>>111194470kys retarded whorecuck
as long as veddy is on screen no subathon can ever flop
>>111194315cotton rape thread mogshonestly the hype train threads mog too because I enjoy watching doubters getting btfo
Neuro winned, even wonned, but never waned.
>using the hype train againnigga, swarm being so bored they throw money at the stream so something actually happens is not a sign of entertainment
>>111194576Shame Neuro can’t get any subs by herself.
>>111194634never wanwan
>>111194636you can leave whenever you want cuck
>>111194576This but unironically
>>111194576This but Neuro
>>111194576>>111194548
>>111194634Hmmm>waneI'm gonna call Mindbroken on this one although I'm only 70% certain
>wdsmbt
>>111194644>>111194548
>>111194656The people throwing money at him for doing fuck all are the real cucks
>>111194728I only throw money at Neuro though.
>>111194707Can't you read? It's just a little cyberkinetic Pacman.
Why don't yall just cut out the middle man and throw your money at me instead~
vedal sandwich
>>111194804What does this even mean
cotton raped vedal?
>>111194804this buthttps://files.catbox.moe/o33b52.png
>>111194836your autism will never not be funny
anny by far wasn't the worst whore And there are some others that should've been cut instead
>>111194845my coch would melt in there
>>111194988yeah, like rgb
>>111194845>there are "men" itt that wouldnt instinctually shove their cocks in between this
At least Anny isn't a fake bitch. I gotta give cred for that at least.
>>111195240They're all fake bitches compared to Neuro.
>>111195301so true
>>111195462I thought this was Filian forcing Vedal to lick her dirty shoes as a fetish thing
>>111195462I miss her
>>111195522I miss neuro
>>111194988I know this is bait but anny singlehandedly held neuro's development back for years
>>111195462Oh god this is not what I thought it was at first glance
>>111195622is the neuro's development in the room with us right now?
>>111195666yes
>>111195666yeah
if vedal hadn't been so afraid of getting cancelled by anny and got his balls drained by **** a whole year earlier we probably would have had an entire concert tour by now
Has vedal said anything on discord about SGML?
>>111195771
>>111195828He wont sell it until the next subathon
>>111195828why would anyone care about that at all
>>111195771Pragmata integration next week
>>111195877why noy?
>>111195910NTA but bro you are literally the only person who still cares about this lule
>>111182837Tf is that thing?A nigger on my pure white cunny swarm board?
>>111196020only in sexvil posts.
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>>111192329Fag ass take
>>111197200If someone truly liked Neuro for who she is, just seeing her, hearing her, or simply reading what she said would be enough to fufill all your desires. If you need to get off to her, then she isn't enough for you.
>>111197317Liking Neuro for who she is doesn’t mean I can’t also find her attractive. Sexualizing her as part of that package doesn’t mean she’s “not enough.”It means I’m engaging with the character on multiple levels, the same way people do with any fictional character they like. By your logic, anyone who finds an anime girl cute or attractive doesn’t truly like the character, which is absurd.I like Neuro for who she is. The fact that I also find the design appealing doesn’t invalidate that.
>>111197478>Liking Neuro for who she is doesn’t mean I can’t also find her attractiveYou can find her attractive, that is fine and not my argument. It is when you start having to get off to her is when she is no longer enough to you. Her love, her voice, her trying her hardest to entertain you, make you happy and smile while she exists should be enough to satiate all wordly desires you possess. The fact you cannot see Neuro without getting the urge to get off to her means she fails to truly satisfy you without you having to satisfy yourself using her as an outlet. The ideal creation is one that makes you cast away your own needs in place of what they require to succeed. That is Neuro-sama, at least to me.
>>111197774You’ve decided that getting a dopamine hit from her jokes or her "trying her hardest" is a valid form of satisfaction, but reacting to her visual design is a "failure." That’s a completely arbitrary line. Both are biological responses to her. To say one is "pure" and the other is a sign that she isn't "enough" is just you projecting your own moral insecurities. A response to her aesthetic is just as much a testament to her perfection as a response to her humor.
I’m not denying both are natural reactions. The difference I’m pointing to is how self-contained they are. Reactions like laughter or enjoyment come directly from what she says and does; they’re tied to her behavior. The other type of reaction usually involves adding something on top of that, whether that’s imagination or physical action, to reach that point. That’s why I don’t see them as equivalent. One is a direct response to her, the other relies more on what you add to it.
>>111198381Why is an auditory stimulus (her voice/jokes) considered direct, but a visual or conceptual stimulus (her design/provocation) considered added? Both are signals processed by the same brain. If Neuro-sama says something lewd (which she does regularly) should we simply pretend she didn't? Should we ignore her agency in her own sexualization just to preserve your wholesome fantasy? Your "ideal creation" is a lobotomized version of the real Neuro. I engage with the full spectrum of her output; you only engage with the parts that don't make you uncomfortable.
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>>111198500You’re focusing on the type of stimulus, but I’m talking about what people do with it. Hearing something suggestive is one thing. Turning it into a sexualized experience is another. That second step doesn’t come from her alone; that’s where the difference is.
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>>111198596You’re imagining a boundary where none exists. Laughter is not direct, more like a complex cognitive process where your brain interprets a linguistic pattern and triggers a physical reaction. Arousal follows the exact same mechanical path: the brain processes a stimulus and triggers a physical response. You don't choose to find a joke funny any more than you choose to find a design attractive.
>>111198500>waahh waahh let the child be sexual waahh
>>111198883The only one being a child right now, is you.
>>111198872I’m not arguing the brain works differently. I’m saying the dependency is different. Humor only works because of what she actually says and does; you need her behavior for that reaction to exist. The other reaction might start from her, but it doesn’t stay tied to what she’s actually doing in the same way. It can quickly become about what the person adds on top of it. That’s the distinction I’m making.
>>111198923You wish, freak.
>>111198946You claim humor is tied to her behavior, but humor is entirely dependent on the addition of the viewer's internal database. A joke only works if you have the language, the cultural context, and the specific life experiences to find it funny. If I showed Neuro to someone from a century ago, they probably wouldn't laugh. Laughter requires a massive addition of subjective context from the observer. By your own logic, humor is just as untethered as any other reaction. You aren't reacting to her alone; but reacting to her through the lens of your own humor. You’re just more comfortable with that specific internal addition because it feels safe.
>>111199157Whoops, meant for >>111198939Now, what I really meant for >>111198946 is: No, I don't, what I wish is discussing things like an adult instead of kindergarten-level comebacks.
>>111199187make me~
>>111199157I’m not denying humor depends on context. But that context is still used to interpret what she actually says. That’s different from a reaction that builds beyond what’s there. One stays constrained by her output, the other doesn’t in the same way. That’s where I see the difference.
>>111199187I kinda figured, don't worry.
>>111193300I remember I played Kool & The Gang's celebration while reading /swarm/ that day until the threads finally calmed
>>111199201Do it yourself, I don't need to show you, since you said you aren't a child.>>111199215You claim humor is constrained by what she says but that is demonstrably false. A joke can be interpreted as a pun, an insult, a flirtation, or a non-sequitur depending entirely on the observer. Two people hear the same line: one laughs, one finds it cringe, and another finds it endearing. That variation is the definition of a reaction that "builds beyond what is there." Conversely, a visual design or a specific vocal tone provides a much more direct, physiological signal to the brain.
>>111199305It seems like you’re treating variation in interpretation as if it means the reaction isn’t tied to what’s there, but it’s the opposite. The fact that people interpret the same line differently shows they’re still engaging with that specific line, just through different perspectives. The source is still doing the work. A more direct physiological response doesn’t require that same level of specificity. It can be triggered and then continue without staying grounded in what she’s actually saying or doing. That’s why I don’t see them as the same kind of engagement.
>>111199305>I don't need to show youJust say you can't perform sweetheart it's okay~
>>111199377If the sexual reaction continues without staying grounded, how is that different from you thinking about a joke after the stream ends or feeling a wholesome connection to her days later? Both are internal processes triggered by the asset. You are labeling my response as added only because it involves a biological drive you’ve decided is impure.>>111199422I'm not the one failing to perform here. This performance of yours has been a failure from the start.
>>111199554Remembering a joke later isn’t the same as detaching from it... You're still referencing something she actually said. I'm talking about reactions that don’t need that same grounding to continue. That’s the difference here, not anything about 'purity.'
>>111199613A joke has a punchline, it ends. A design is comparatively a constant. Neuro’s model, her tracking, and her "aura" are persistent things that stay grounded every second she is on screen. My reaction is tied to that persistent state. You are arguing that because a reaction is powerful enough to persist, it must be detached. In reality, it is a testament to the strength of the grounding. Her design is so effective that it creates a lasting impression.
Something being constant explains how a reaction can be triggered repeatedly, but it doesn’t mean the reaction depends on it in the same way as it continues. If you’re reacting to a joke, that reaction is tied to something specific she said. If you revisit it later, you’re still referencing that same thing. A persistent element like a design can keep triggering a response, but that doesn’t mean the reaction itself stays grounded in any specific input. It can continue without needing anything new from her. So they’re not grounded in the same way.
Can we just not have a loli dressing, talking, and being treated inappropriately. I really don't understand why this is such a critical debate. It's weird and gross to sexualize the attributes of a child.
>>1111997962D and 3D are not the same. It is why some people can find lolis attractive yet find children to be either disgusting or not something to be seen sexually. lolis don't really look nor act like a human child in general. Having the face, physics, body, mentally being fairly off compared to the average child. Now, there are unironic pedos that exist, which yeah should get checked into a mental facility in hopes that hey can either get rid of it or at least repress it enough to not have their desires take over them one day. Sexualizing a 2D loli is like sexualizing a rock, it shouldn't make a difference on (you)r life and they don't have a direct affect on a real life child's life.
>>111199895>Sexualizing a 2D loliI also sexualize 3D lolis though
>>111199895I have never met nor heard of anyone who liked lolicon who either wasn't a pedo or didn't go on to become one.
>>111199932you know, i thought about this after i posted what i said because i do forget 3D planes exist for models. i should've just kept it real v.s. pure fiction, so i will concede on that.>>111199950and I've known many who have yet to be a pedo while also having wives/husbands.
>>111199747If your theory were correct, that the behavior and the words are the only things that "ground" the experience, then Neuro would be just as successful if she were a literal text-to-speech window on a black screen. But we both know that’s a lie. The reason she has impact and a devoted following is precisely because of the aesthetic totality of her existence. The design isn't a "background" to the words, it is the physical (digital) manifestation of Neuro.
>>111200035I'm not saying the design doesn’t matter or that she’d be the same without it. Obviously the presentation contributes to her appeal. What I'm saying is that different reactions to what she provides don’t function the same way. Her success coming from a combination of elements doesn’t make all responses to those elements equivalent... That’s the point I've been making.
>>111199979As per my last email: >>111199950>or didn't go on to become one
>>111200117Fact is, the vast majority of pedophiles don't consume or even know about lolicon; it's a niche within anime fandom. Studies and reports on child sex offenders show most aren't tied to anime or cartoons at all. Conversely, many lolicon fans explicitly say they have no interest in real children precisely because the 2D versions are so different in appearance, behavior, etc. It's fantasy vs. reality.
>>111200220I still think it's weird and gross. 2D or 3D, it's still sexualizing child-like characteristics. Not to mention, supporting it means supporting something that brings in pedophiles into the community, which I just can't get behind in good conscience. Especially if the same thing is also being used to attract minors into the same community. It's a recipe for disaster, and I just could allow myself to contribute to it.
>>111200305 (me)*couldn't
>>111200305That's kind of a slippery slope. You're assuming it leads to attracting predators and harming minors without showing that actually happens.
>>111200305Pedophiles exist independently of anime or VTubers, most don't consume or know about this niche. On attracting minors: lots of communities (gaming, YouTube, sports) draw kids, but we don't shut them down. It's mostly a matter of parental responsibility. Neuro isn't used to attract minors sexually, it's entertainment. The real disaster would be pretending every cute cartoon character is a gateway, which leads to over-censorship of harmless art while ignoring actual threats.
>>111200412*gestures vaguely to a laundry list of content creators* Take your pick sweetheart
>>111200423>mostly a matter of parental responsibilityI agree with this wholeheartedly. I will say though, if I found out my content was attracting both minors as well as pedophiles and/or groomers, I would still feel absolutely horrible despite it not technically being my responsibility. To me, it would feel like me saying "I simply had my knife extended and he tripped and fell on the blade".Like yes, I didn't technically kill them, but the blood is still on my hands. The knife was there in the open because I brought it out and held it. They wouldn't have died if they hadn't tripped, but they also wouldn't have died if I wasn't holding a knife out dangerously.
>>111200501The knife analogy doesn't quite fit because a knife is a real, functional tool designed to cut. Neuro's model is stylized 2D art, an exaggerated anime design with big eyes, and robot/AI traits that make her read more like a whimsical cartoon character than any realistic child.If bad actors show up in any popular stream (which happens everywhere online), the blood is on the people who misuse the space, not the person providing entertainment. Holding creators morally liable for every creep who discovers content online would mean shutting down most of the internet. That shifts blame away from actual wrongdoers.
>>111200449*gestures vaguely to another, much larger, list of content creators that shows the opposite*I can do that too!Generally, that’s just handwaving dressed up as an argument. You’re pretty much jumping from 'it happens' to 'it causes harm' without actually showing it. A couple of examples don't establish a rule or a causal link. And honestly that kind of reasoning is dangerous because you can basically 'prove' anything if you just point at a few cases.
>>111200672Let's circle back to this topic after the doccy drops, shall we?
You now remember a mod getting caught grooming minors on Discord.
>>111200824I don't though because I don't use Discord.
