>>111210557
She's a better voice actor than Kronii.

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>>111210557

uh oh melty

>>111210557
every space is wasted except Biboos

>>111210557
Nah Fauna was worse because she threw her genmates under the bus for vesper

>>111210557
Wait this isn’t a Holostars image

>>111210944
If she did it because of penis, that's normal.

>>111210964
OP here, I love the stars. They're much better than any of the girls!!

>>111210557
that's not bibot

>>111210557
false, that's Sana
at least ERB has stuck around

>>111210964
so you're saying holostars are part of hololive

>>111211147
OP here. That's true! They are!

That isn't Kronii, Baelz, Bijou, or Raora tho?

>>111211408
When you put it like that it's just the whole branch

>>111210557
That's not Nerissa

>>111210557
ERB is so kind...standing in front of Kiara like that so it looks like you're talking about ERB instead

>>111211408
Say that to my face and see if I don’t rape you to death

original songs doko

>>111210557
her roomate wastes a lot of space on planet Earth

>>111210557
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can tolerate her obnoxious voice and mannerisms

>>111216693
KEK ok I laughed

>>111210557
Meh it's good to put the homobeggars in safe spaces. Keeps them away from the decent chuubas.

>>111210557
not even the worst in her gen

>>111216693
kek good one

>>111210944
Hi Kronii!

why would they put someone who is pushing 50 in a group of 25y olds?
She doesn't fit in at all

Hard agree

>>111210557

>>111210638
Kronii is better British person than Elizabeth is

>>111210557
Thats not shiori

the literal "worst" thing she's done is support men. she's not niji or vshojo tier no matter how much you cry about it.

>>111223604
A group can work with an awkward person being part of the dynamic, look at how Mori behaved for the first like year or two of Myth (and still does with other gens sometimes).
I think ERB is pretty good in some collabs and not that great in others - the same as any other talent.

>>111210557
It’s amazing how she makes any collab she’s in worse. If she graduated “full justice” collabs would actually improve.

Waste of fantastic 3D ta-tas. Anyone have any good 3D porn of her?

>>111230859
Her last cover (with Ao??) was fine.

>>111230859
I think OP is talking about ERB anon not Raora

>>111210557
I like Liz. We needed a proper actress in EN.

>>111231236
I do feel she hasn't hit her stride yet. She has talent but doesn't seem to really have a 'character arc' yet, so to speak

>>111210557
Her Cecilia impression in the Easter stream was genuinely the hardest I've laughed during a Holo stream in a long time, She really does sound like Mickey Mouse kek.

>>111210658
>>111210789
ah, hololive ID fans I see
>>111210557
I still don't get why they hire girls like Liz who actively hate 99% of hololive fans

>>111230807
holostars are actively evil and supporting them is like supporting child rapists

>>111231438
>actively hate 99% of hololive fans
This is more true of your average catalogshitter than it is of her.

>>111231268
I don't really watch much of her but I do make the time to tune it to her VR RP streams and it's a whole lot of fun

>>111231550
anyone who supports homostars hates hololive fans. people like hololive because it's CGDCGT. if people liked homostars nijiEN, vshitshow and the various indies would be more popular and hololive and phase would be less popular

>>111231632
nope

>>111231711
yup. homostars fans and beggars are exclusively trannies and holoID fans. that's why no one ever watched stars

>>111231464
And vtuber fans regardless of their political affiliation are some of the most rizzless, chudite, culture warriors that nobody wants to be associated with on the internet. People would literally rather hang around the average ghetto nig than you "people"

>>111231741
why are you here?

I like her, she's funny sometimes.
I also think she's legitimately autistic.

>>111216732
That's pretty gay, anon

>>111231928
he's not wrong

>>111210557
I don't know what you are on about, she was a lot of fun singing and dancing with Ren.

Think she's genuinely one of the nicest people out there honestly, I enjoy her karaokes a lot and they make me happy and I like how supportive she is.

People also exaggerate hard about her having no chemistry too, I think she's fun on collabs, her collabs with Gigi have been fun, I liked her joining in with Raora on her horror game to VA and even with Justice I like the motherly role she plays, I don't want all of them to be screaming and shouting all the time, I like that she is laid back. The hate is retarded honestly..

She should stream more though, I can't tell if it's cause she's self conscious about her gaming or whatever but I would like more streams

>>111232057
he is and you are, samefag
>>111232362
>nice
>hates 99% of hololive fans
>>111232108
>liking that queer

>>111223329
this is why i love 4chan

>>111230835
fair take. was gonna say something something ina, but maybe calli is more

>>111232478
she very obviously doesn't hate 99% of hololive fans you dumb fucking retard

>>111230807
she doesn't stream retard

>>111232362
Her vocal challenges stream was really good. She does need to learn to remove them from the wheel so they don't duplicate too often

>>111232478
From the way you keep talking, I think I understand why you feel like everyone hates you

>>111232478
>>liking that queer
He grows on you when he's hanging out with your favorite Dog, Plush, and Demon.

>>111232509
she does, retard. any girl who likes hololive fans denounces the homostars, like Fuwamoco did
>>111232529
I don't. I just think hololive ID fans hate me
>>111232556
I'd drop anyone who hangs out with that queer. he should be arrested on anti sodomy laws

>>111232775
Fucking retarded monkey, jesus

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>>111210557
Be sure to watch her 3D live on the 25th, okay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGppUhILuP4

>>111232831
turn your monitor on, you are getting confused by your own reflection

>>111232848
Wow. Her guestlist is already stacked

>>111232848
Holy stacked lineup
>Marine, Korone, Polka
HAGS GALORE

>>111211034

Can you really call streaming once every other week in a members only stream "sticking around"?

Cover culled the JP boys, there's quite a few of the girls that should be too.

>>111223604
I think they thought since she's older she may have a better work ethic. Boy were they wrong.

>>111230835
Calli is, and will always be, a solo act. She's absolutely horrible in collabs because she's THE saltiest gamer out there. Says the most horrible shit to others then acts like "oh I was just playing!" all because she thinks multiplayer games should always go the way she wants them to.

>>111233145
She got back from JP on the 4th it seems, since the 4th she's had 8 public streams on her channel, 2 members and 3 off channel collabs. It's nothing crazy but she's streaming a pretty normal amount nowadays.

>>111232956
we don't sign our posts here, it's against the rules

>>111232775
>I'd drop anyone who hangs out with that queer. he should be arrested on anti sodomy laws
Can you point on the doll where he touched you?

>>111233482
I hate him on general principle for being a queer and trying to message Gura

>>111232954
I hope I'm not overlooking something but I think that's Iroha in the frame.

>>111233701
That last blue silhouette is pretty clearly Polka but yes you are also correct

>>111233750
Pol is a top-tier entertainer so I do agree on that. I wonder who the rest are

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>>111210557
I beg to differ.

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>>111233844
There is some predictions from /innit/ but this one has been hitting it all

>>111234000
It's nice seeing Choco in there

>>111233145
What mori collabs are you watching

>>111210557
That would be Sana and Ina.

>>111232004
It had to be terror gay

>>111233595
And where is Gura now?

>>111237520
irrelevant, the resoto faggot should be gelded and jailed

She’s the only one that can sing. The rest are yelling into a mic. Holobronies literally do not want good idols.

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there's more to being an idol than simply singing guppy

>>111231464
Cmon it's no where as bad as being a pedophile.

>>111237907
>collabs with homos
>idol
>>111238065
it's worse

>>111238018
It’s a prerequisite like four Holos meet.

>>111210658
not OP but it's about Liz not really doing anything of note, most of her content isn't even on her own channel or even a Hololive channel, she is just randomly streaming with twitch indies.

while the rest of Justice has gotten settled into Hololive, Liz still behaves like an outsider who isn't really used to streaming on youtube and making regular content, most her livestreams are restreams of her karaokes

Liz has done pretty much everything possible to kill any growth and momentum on her channel, which will disincentivize Cover from investing heavily into her music career, which should have been the entire point she even joined a company to begin with.

>>111237907
Only one that can sing but hasnt released a single OG song yet. Even her releasing a cover is rare. Says shes always super busy but has nothing to show for it. That a good idol to you?

>>111210557
she was the last resort after grimmi and pandora dropped out

>>111237907
>She’s the only one that can sing.
where's an ERB song with 100+ million views? because she's been a bum for over a decade now and hasn't been doing a whole lot without latching onto a pre-existing fandom

>>111240076
That anon said sing, not promote. What makes artists succeed isn't just talent.

>>111240095
she hasn't made a song in hololive yet worth 100+ million views, this is a work ethic issue

>>111240165
Who has?

>>111240173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZP5eqm4JqM

personally i feel Stellar Stellar is the 100+ million view song, but that's the reality of being more popular at different stages of your life

if Shigure Ui can come out with a 100+ million view song, surely ERB can, but she applies no effort to her channel or brand, instead she treats rosarians as just passive income for her to just exist as a wine aunt travel vacationer through twitch indie streams that do nothing for her career but eat up the only relevant years remaining in her life

>>111240173
Suisei, basically. And just the one.

>>111240375
So you're saying other than Suisei, no one else in Hololive can sing or has good work ethics? You can shit on ERB all you want but you don't have to drag the whole company down too

>>111240375
It's a meme song. Don't be stupid

>>111240472
>It's a meme song. Don't be stupid
you do realize the only really popular song of ERB's past life is a meme song latching onto the FNAF fandom?

>>111240685
No you implied that to be a good singer or have good work ethics you need to have a song with 100+ million views
>where's an ERB song with 100+ million views?
>she hasn't made a song in hololive yet worth 100+ million views, this is a work ethic issue
Are those 2 posts not what you meant?

Hey where did the autism post go

>>111240434
you seem to be confused, let's break the comment chain down

random anon said
>>111237907
>(ERB)'s the only one that can sing. The rest are yelling into a mic.
i responded with
>>111240076
>where's an ERB song with 100+ million views? because she's been a bum for over a decade now and hasn't been doing a whole lot without latching onto a pre-existing fandom
then this anon butted into the conversation
>>111240095
>That anon said sing, not promote. What makes artists succeed isn't just talent.
which i respond to with
>>111240165
>she hasn't made a song in hololive yet worth 100+ million views, this is a work ethic issue
which an anon ignorantly responded with
>>111240173
>Who has?
who was then informed by two different anons with
>>111240375
>video of BIBBIDIBA on suisei's channel with 170 million views
>personally i feel Stellar Stellar is the 100+ million view song, but that's the reality of being more popular at different stages of your life
and >>111240377
>Suisei, basically. And just the one.

which comes back to you >>111240434
>So you're saying other than Suisei, no one else in Hololive can sing or has good work ethics?
nowhere was it stated that no one else in hololive can sing nor has good work ethic, you implied that randomly through poor reading comprehension

i stated, in no uncertain terms, that ERB being represented as "the best singer in hololive" has no statistical basis on the merits of the argument, and no factual basis as of her own inaction as a singer developing her own songs.

>>111210557
true
>>111232848
no

Lol

>>111240753
>No you implied that to be a good singer or have good work ethics you need to have a song with 100+ million views
incorrect, i refuted >>111237907 stating that if ERB is "the only one that can sing," where is her 100+ million view song

>>111240753
If you are a good singer and have good work ethic you should have more than a 2 million view cover of someone elses song on your channel to be labeled as the only one who can sing in holo.

>>111240803
That post was clearly a troll but you're now saying that if she's the only good singer, she would have a song with 100+ millions views.
Well ok she doesn't, but Suisei does. So does that mean Suisei is the only one who can sing? If I said "Suisei is the only one that can sing", would you say I'm correct?

>>111237730
You sound like someone gassing up Mal to drop a google dockee.

>>111240873
100m+ might be a bit much by typed by this anon. But i agree if someone whos basicly known for being a good singer and thats it. she should have something to show for it which she doesnt

>>111240989
Is that her fault or Holo? It's not like they're a hit factory. Suisei literally split away to have her own agency

>>111240989
My point is that if you want to say she's not a great singer, fine. Just don't set some arbitrary standard where no one else, other than one person, can reach just to do it

>>111240850
Lmao who cares she just need to show up at fes and concerts do a little singing here and there and it's all good

I don't get you people, if you don't like her that much just stop talking about her, keep bringing her up is not going to work in your favor

>>111241021
Its her own fault for not being cosistent or litteraly putting out anything at all. Sure holo is not a instant hit factory but it surely helps

>>111240873
i stated previously that Stellar Stellar would be the 100+ million view song, this is due to the nature of singing ability and good work ethic leading to natural growth on the channel uplifting the tide and base reach of all songs.
while Stellar Stellar is the superior song, it walked so BIBBIDIBA could run

this mentality is how every serious career singer maintains relevance
ERB is the exact opposite of a serious career singer, which is why claims that she is the "only one that can sing" in hololive has no clear basis

many of the hololive girls split their time between streaming and as they call it, "homework," because many of them do not actually have the work ethic of a serious singer
this is why IRyS and AZki never really succeeded as singers in the same way that Suisei did, they prefer streaming to "homework"

as long as any of these girls consider a serious singing career as "homework" and prefer to be streamers, at best they can hope for a one off meme song to pop off, which will ultimately do nothing for their music career other than be an impressive accolade

a singer is something that takes life focusing dedication that many of the girls just take for granted as just something to advertise their streams, which they consider to be their true calling

calling ERB a singer is like calling a kid a commercial fishman because he likes fishing and once caught a big one, ERB has never had the dedication to prove she ever wanted to become a career singer, it was always tertiary to her other goals like voice acting

>>111241067
Thats why i said 100m might be a bit to high but even 3-5m should be doable for someone whos known to be one of the best singers in holo no?

>>111241164
I think it's more likely you're probably just retarded

>>111241209
And that's fine kek
Let her be the wasteful space that you're all talking about, do you really want to see her succeed? That's very contrarian of you anon

>>111241163
>keep bringing her up is not going to work in your favor
I will keep bringing elizabeth up until she makes an original song that proves she can sing

>>111241209
Holo is not a music label anon. It's why it frustrates some of the members so much

>>111241067
Suisei is a serious singer, it's the difference between her and ERB
your singing ability is a lot like your ability to have sex, you can be the greatest fucker in the world but if you aren't having sex then wheres the proof

>>111241265
>do you really want to see her succeed?
yes, and that will only happen if you call out ERB for being lazy

>>111241209
She technically is still more of a singer than the average Hololive girl. Compared to her genmates, she's been in more 3D lives. And I'm not even counting the ones outside of Hololive.
Not sure why she's not putting out more music but then again, even before Hololive she never had an original song, she's only been featured as the singer. My guess is that she doesn't have the skills to produce music like Mori does

>>111241249
Im retarded when u bring op suisei splitting away which has nothing to do with the convo sure buddy. ERB not bringing out any songs isnt her own fault?

>>111241324
Maybe we should see her 3D live first?

>>111239963
the whole point of anyone who's good at singing is for Mori to sabotage them with homos or stupid advice

Mumei got away cause she didn't apply as a singer thus didn't listen to the advice of a senpai who's out to ruin them
it's the typical ugly women behavior

>>111241282
any girl in hololive that is serious about singing can get a music label contract outside of hololive to work with them

there is a lack of serious singers in hololive, songs are just used as marketing gimmicks for the most part
which is why i take offense to anyone that would call ERB of all people the most qualified singer in holo, she is no different than Shigure Ui, she had one meme song over a decade ago, and has put in very little effort since

>>111241346
A 3D isnt a way to say she wasnt lazy. Every single member does a 3D and keeps streaming and/or bringing out music in between

>>111241387
Surely that's not true. You don't think someone like Nerissa wouldn't jump at the opportunity if she could? I'm not familiar with the JPs but surely there are some of them who would drop their streaming activities to get a music label

>>111241324
Yeah bud just call her out on her livetag or something, you're not doing anything bitching around here
And look she's live on twitch, say hi

>>111241405
>Every single member does a 3D
Technically not true. They get 1 a year but it's not mandatory

>>111241415
the reason why they aren't jumping at the opportunity, is that they will not fully own their own stuff like they did in their PL

the other side of it is, honestly, a lot of these girls are addicted to being lazy streamers as opposed to the hard work and stress of being a serious singer
even Nerissa is no unaffected by this, look at her sister as well, these women would rather make low effort streams than put in the real consistent effort it takes to make it as a serious singer

>>111237907
>can sing
>showboats and ruins every song

>>111241506
That's easy to fix though. Just chill tf out a little

>>111241551
an easy fix yes, she used to sing like a person pre-holo, but nothing she's done in Holo has been any good, basically the only song I like her singing in is Above Below, and her parts aren't really the highlights of that song either

>>111241474
I cant name one who didnt do a 3D per year. But if we exclude those everyone streams more and brings out more then ERB. So saying she isnt lazy cause she worked on her 3D is BS cause everyone who does them has to deal with that

>>111241504
Even if the music label didn't own part of it, Cover still does so they will never have full ownership. I can't say laziness is the biggest factor. Bae isn't lazy, why isn't she taking up this opportunity? And Kiara. She'd kill for a music label

>>111241551
Belting in women is directly related to ego, it's not easily lost.
It's like telling Madonna to speak normal.

>>111210557
Still lasted longer than Sana

>>111241594
Right off the top of my head, Shiori and Kronii didn't do one last year

>>111241681
Kronii was supposed to have one for her anniversary last year, but production issues moved it to her birthday this year instead

>>111210557
Unironically the best asmr in EN, she just needs to do it more.

>>111241605
>Bae isn't lazy, why isn't she taking up this opportunity?
Bae actually has been slowly investing in it more, the issue is she has been too tied to streaming for too long and uses it as a crutch.
SNAKE EYES is the type of song that could have gotten more popular if she focused more heavily on building up her singing focus and IRL events in Japan these last few years
>And Kiara. She'd kill for a music label
Kiara only wants to be a singer for her own vanity and self-validation, because she's gotten success as a streamer after not having success for so long, she would never abandon streaming for singing out of fear of losing what finally worked for her, but this exact mindset is what prevents her from ever really breaking out as a singer

>>111241785
They don't have to give up streaming entirely to focus on their music. Mori still streams

>>111241785
Getting a music label doesnt mean u have to give up anything in return. Look at Calli she still streams and has one. Sure maybe 1 day less streaming here and there

This thread is yet another proof that /vt/ is made up of like 2 actual unicorns, 10 shitposters that are in every single thread ever, and actual redditor sisters that came to 4chan to "fight le unicorns".

>>111241785
Bae leans too much on hip hop and rap, the fashion, the dances, how the VM are shot with the colours the camera work. Some find that unappealing and with 2-3 originals, VM and 3d per year and eating up her time to make those I think she painting herself into a corner. She used to be pretty cute, knows JP and now her image is the slutty rat bitch that carves for black cock.

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>>111210557
My hot British wife

>>111241964
Yet SNAKE EYES is doing crazy numbers. The people have spoken and the numbers don't lie.

>>111241964
Not everyone is going to be ur cute lolli shy JP girl bro like what? I think its actually a good thing that not everyone is going the same direction with music that would make it boring af

>>111241964
are you retarded? that's all Kpop shit, which is the actual direction her music is heading not whatever nigger shit you're spouting

>>111241964
What is VM? Do you mean MV?

>>111232775
You love Ren. You want to become his woman. Got it.

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>>111210557
Yeah, whatever...

>>111232848
Whoa, that's a fun lineup.

>>111240076
>without latching onto a pre-existing fandom
>a pre-existing fandom
Like Hololive?

>>111241387
>any girl in hololive that is serious about singing can get a music label contract outside of hololive to work with them
This doesn't sound right, or else we'd have more than literally just suisei and mori with large contracts

>>111230465
Kronii is deep in bong culture alright

>>111244160
Kek fuck you

>>111240173
NOT!IRyS

>>111240875
fucking what?

>>111242900
I do not, I want him in that el salvadorian prison

>>111246005
What did he do to you personally? Did he touch you?

>>111231464
DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF

>>111246305
he replied to Gura on twitter. ergo he has harmed me more than any nazi ever has and he should be sent to an el salvadorian prison
>>111246349
how am I wrong?

>>111232848
Hag love

>>111246409
You REALLY need professional help and an Aussie man inside you.

>>111246433
why shouldn't I hate a child raping scumbag who is actively trying to ruin vtubing?

>>111246540
Really. Get some professional help.
After that, come out of that closet.
>actively ruining
your asshole in your head.

>>111246593
>no you need therapy
lmao no
>everyone who hates faggots is gay
everyone who hates spiders wants to fuck spiders
male vtubers are all pieces of shit who hate vtubing and are trying to ruin it. they are the dei fags from vidya and tv/films who try to replace male characters with fat black women and ruined star wars and star trek and everything else they touched

>>111241266
Alright big macho man, call her out on that when she’s streaming.

>>111246709
Get some help, touch some grass and get a man. You are really messed up in the head. Maybe someone like Donovan would be perfect for you.

>>111241266
>up until she makes an original song that proves she can sing
That's going to be a while.

>>111246779
You sound like a faggot. sodomy should be banned along with male vtubers, queer

>>111246409
YOU COMPARED SUPPORTING MALE VTUBERS TO SUPPORTING CHILD RAPISTS
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

>>111246961
supporting male vtuber is worse, desu. there objectively were child rapists who did cool things like that guy who made that song they play at every sporting event or rob lowe or roman polanski
can't say the same thing about male vtubers

>>111242040
Do you not know that Kpop culture is 90% recycled from american rap and hiphop?

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>>111210557
Every time I hear her talk I get irrationally angry, I have a visceral hatred for her that she probably doesn't deserve but I just can't fucking stand the way she talks and acts
I'm literally the person on the left in this image, except the kid is a 40 year old British woman who acts the same way

If the 3D live is kino, some of you may feel pretty silly

It's still really funny that everyone calls her absolutely amazing at singing but she still hasn't put out an original song. I have a feeling she'll announce it after her event coming up, but the fact it's taken this long is hilarious

>>111247104
>supporting male vtuber is worse, desu
NO THE FUCK IT ISN’T YOU FUCKING RETARD. WHAT THE FUCK ASS BACKWARDS LOGIC IS THIS.

>>111251100
roman polanski and rob lowe made more good things than male vtubers, faggot
all male vtubers should be sent to that jail in el salvador, they are worse than roman polanski

>>111249378
To be fair, just because you're good at singing it doesn't mean you can do much without something to sing.
An original song takes a lyricist, musician, editor, mixer, not to mention the MV

>>111247935
When's BTS gonna show up on some other band's door with a SMG?

>>111210557
you remember sana?

>>111240057
Pandora would have been good

>>111210789
/thread

>>111253269
Imagine being one of the girls who auditioned for the spot, having to come to terms that you'll probably never achieve that dream, then watching someone who got it dip out before a full year passed

>>111210557
Second place to Sana, but not by much.

>>111246890
2 more weeks

>>111251794
All of her genmates have one, why doesn't she have one yet? Why did it take this long to do that?

>>111261009
Realistically you'd premiere it for the 3D live