I do enjoy watching small vtuber for the reason that you actually are able to chat with them and a closer/smaller community they have feels more authentic in terms being able to connect with new people etc. So here is the thing;I watched this smaller Vtuber for like a month and I enjoyed her content, and she was entertaining. Out of nowhere she started to do a whole week collab with a streamer friend (a dude) and I really dislike their dynamic. Like they're overly flirtatious "I give you kisses on the cheek " 'Stahp I blush', "wow its so insane how much we have in common. Its like we are soulmates. It kinda gets scary" "right ? Where were you", and or they do jokingly sexual remarks "ha, I have such a big thing" "what ? I hope you don't mean in your pants, right? hehe." After that collab week, they did another week, while on one day she streamed something alone, he is in her chat and love bombs her.Why am I telling this ? Well, as I said, I started to dislike this dynamic they have, while I'm cool and happy for her that she seemingly enjoys her time, I feel like I'm imposing myself and 3rd wheel a date. Like it is something I just don't enjoy as entertainment to watch in my free time. So I silently left her community. Now I got a dm a couple of minutes ago from her. She asked why I left and if i'm unhappy with something, so I told her like I told you guys.She started to get very upset with me and calls me a parasocial freak and "it's just between friends" and that I'm reading way to much into their relationship.Honestly I don't get it. Am I "parasocial" for leaving, because I don't like to watch this type of dynamic on streams and in her chat ?
That's her boyfriend, and no, 'I don't enjoy this' has nothing to do with being parasocial. But people leaving means money leaving, and she'd like to have both the money and her boyfriend.
>>111331601She wants to have her cake and eat it, tooYou spoiled it for her, and that's what made her upset
>>111331693I'm not sure if the guy is her boyfriend, she does streaming for fun. I do have a subscription for her, because I like her emotes, but I doubt her dm was her being upset losing financial support. The 2 bucks she gets from my subscription probably don't hurt her.
>>111331601Welcome home, unicorn man.
IDK, I don't rly like watch couples stream in general either especially if they are acting all lovey dovey... I suppose its a normal thing among normies however.
>>111331601Your feelings are valid, bro. Obviously she’s not going to like what you said but it was a reasonable choice.
>>111331601Hello, OP. I don't think you were acting parasocial at all. If you don't like a stream you're free to leave. On a different note, since it's a small community I guess it makes sense that she messaged you to check up on you. If anything you only gave her constructive criticism and she took it the wrong way. Maybe she's had a bad experience with an actual parasocial viewer in the past?
>>111331601Watching a streamer because they are entertaining or because they are flirt machines are two very different things.If the moment she invited that guy, her streams moved from being entertaining into a straight up romanceslop, then you are in your full right to leave, completely justified.
>>111331601you already made the choice to leave, so there's no reason not to be honest. she started making content you didn't like. you have other options. it'd be more parasocial to sit and watch and be unhappy.
>>111331601Tell her she’s only mad because she’s parasocial for you and that it’s inappropriate to contact you outside of the stream. Clearly crossing boundaries, um, problematic much?
>>111331922I don't really know. She never talked about something like this before, or atleast when I watched her, I don't recall hearing anything about that.
>>111332150I'm not OP, however, I just wanted to say that if OP and the vtuber have messaged each other in the past, then it's not really "crossing a boundary". It's all relative. Since it's a small vtuber I assume she has a small community and if one regular has been missing for a while she can tell.
>>111331601>Why am I telling this ? Well, as I said, I started to dislike this dynamic they have, while I'm cool and happy for her that she seemingly enjoys her time, I feel like I'm imposing myself and 3rd wheel a date. Like it is something I just don't enjoy as entertainment to watch in my free time. So I silently left her community. Now I got a dm a couple of minutes ago from her. She asked why I left and if i'm unhappy with something, so I told her like I told you guys.>She started to get very upset with me and calls me a parasocial freak and "it's just between friends" and that I'm reading way to much into their relationship.lmao peak woman momentshe could have just said nothing and not confirm your suspicions
>>111332150Would've been maybe a good comeback, but I blocked her. I don't see any merit to entertain any talks further after she disrespected me in dms. I was just confused on her standpoint calling ne parasocial, even tho I left without a word and not having any demands on her. Just a shame, I enjoyed her humor and her interactions before.
>>111331816>I suppose its a normal thing among normies howeverNot really. I often go out with my friend and his wife, to see movies or eat at a resturaunt, and when we do neither of them do that kiss-kiss flirty PDA shit. Even normalfags know it's impolite in that scenario, that's private one-on-one date behavior not group activity date behavior. Normies would tell the vtuber and her male to fuck off and get a room.
>>111332181If she has been streaming for a while chances are she has dealt with an actual parasocial viewer sometime in the past. By the way, as I type this I just saw that you blocked her. I think that was the best move. I once had an experience in which I was disrespected by a streamer and I had to block her too. It sucks, she was my favorite vtuber, but oh well, good riddance. My best advice would be to just move on. I created an alt account once to keep watching her streams and it was a bad idea. Not worth it.
>>111332181a 2view I watch recently had a slip up out of nowhere, too
>>111332257Will do, it's not like I was her friend or anything more. We occasionally talked in her community discord casually. It's not like I invested emotionally in her. Just was really confused how I was the bad guy in this scenario and if i'm really like these parasocial guys
>>111332441One day you'll learn that women never take responsibility ever. It doesn't matter what she did, she's never at fault and you're always at fault. This is a universal truth that cuts across all women.
>>111332441I've been thinking about this for minute. Another possibility is that she might have a very fragile ego and she took your feedback in a hostile way; clearly that wasn't the case.At the end of the day everyone has different personalities. We all take feedback differently, and maybe she isn't used to that. It might suck right now, but just remember that you did not do anything wrong. Furthermore, I bet that in six months time the fact that this situation ever happened won't even cross your mind.
>>111331601You don't owe her your viewership and support if you're not enjoying her content. Its that simple.
>>111331601You would be parasocial if you stayed.Forcing yourself to watch something you don't enjoy for someone else is peak parasocial behavior.
>>111331601>Like they're overly flirtatious "I give you kisses on the cheek " 'Stahp I blush', "wow its so insane how much we have in common. Its like we are soulmates. It kinda gets scary" "right ? Where were you", and or they do jokingly sexual remarks "ha, I have such a big thing" "what ? I hope you don't mean in your pants, right? hehe."Yep, just friends, lol
>>111331601>they're overly flirtatious "I give you kisses on the cheek " 'Stahp I blush', "wow its so insane how much we have in common. Its like we are soulmates. It kinda gets scary" "right ? Where were you", and or they do jokingly sexual remarks "ha, I have such a big thing" "what ? I hope you don't mean in your pants, right? hehe."Unless you're some kind of serial shipper addict, I cannot imagine how any straight male would enjoy watching thisYou're not wrong.
>>111331601>Why am I telling this ? Well, as I said, I started to dislike this dynamic they have, while I'm cool and happy for her that she seemingly enjoys her timeI can tell you're brown just by the way this whole sentence is phrased, lmao
>>111331601vtubing is an inherently parasocial activity if a streamer doesnt enjoy the parasocial aspect or building and engaging with their community then theyre just a grifter trying to get chat to fund their con trips and e-celebrity ladder climbing
>>111333017Can someone give me a quick run down of the life of someone who watches Vtubers? I don't get it at all. I'm here because YouTube got me with cute clips of Korone being retarded literally like 5 years ago. But HOURS? Spending HOURS watching Vtubers? Don't you guys have jobs and stuff?I work out, I study, I have a job, if I had free time I'd probably use it to learn how to draw or something. As much as I'd like to watch Korone like 8 hours a day or whatever, I can't justify living life like that.Someone please help me understand.
>>111333146neets or anyone with a second monitor or a smartphone
>>111334111But is that fulfilling? What are they doing on the first monitor? Won't they miss things? Like how do they pay attention?I'm an asocial caveman so maybe I'm not understanding something about this.
>>111331601"Friends" but flirting.
>>111334201>What are they doing on the first monitor?code, excel sheets, whatever their work is>Like how do they pay attention?ADHD is a thing
>>111331601>The indie pill
>>111333146I get up at 6am and have coffee, and breakfast, and a shower, post on 4chan a bit and go to work at 9am. I get off work at 5pm and start cooking dinner for myself, and my oshi streams from 6-10pm 5-6 days a week so I start watching her while eating dinner and continue to watch her until bed time. I don't go to the gym. I don't have friends. I don't socialize. I rarely play video games, or read, or watch movies. I go outside once a week to buy groceries. Before vtubers life was work, eat, sleep. Accumulate money for no purpose. Feel loneliness get worse every year the older you get, like tinnitus that starts off barely noticeable but grows and grows until the never ending ringing becomes the only thing you can hear all day long. Make plans for killing yourself once you're 40 just because of the exhaustion of it all.
>>111331601screenshots or did not fucking happen
>>111333146Not OP, I've lowkey been a neet for some months now, but when I was employed my day went like this:Workout early morning (7am). Remote Job (focused). Lunch. Remote job (while having a Euro hours chuuba in the background). Spend time with family and doing house chores until dinner. Watch my oshi from 10pm until I pass out from exhaustion
>>111331601Congratulations. You finally found out indie vtubing is for matchmaking. Wait till you find out the corpos are advertisement agencies for products and services.
>>111331757>She wants to have her cake and eat it, tooI never understood that sayingWhy would I want to have a cake if I'm not eating it?Did I make the cake? Did I buy the cake? Why am I not allowed to eat cake if I have it?It doesn't make any sense goddamit
>>111334948If you eat the cake, then the cake is gone. You no longer have the cake, because you ate it. To have your cake and eat it too is saying you want two mutually exclusive things to be true at the same time.
>>111334948When you eat the cake, you no longer have the cake. But I'm ESL so don't take my word for it.
>>111334948"have her cake" = keep her cake, in this contextso what >>111334989 and >>111334992 said.
>>111334238Do you watch Vtubers while coding? I do Python a lot. Which 'tuber do you watch?Will your Oshi comfort me while I go tickety-tack on the keyboard?
>>111335046my oshi is a 2view so I won't say who she is in a catalog thread
>>111335089What is a 2view? Sorry for all the questions (lel).Is this like a pay-per-view Vtuber?
>>111335046Chibidoki never fails.
>>111331601>I do enjoy watching small vtuberfailed pluralization detected/#/SEA larp thread confirmed
>>111335174Concurrent viewers during a livestream, 2view means between 10-99 viewers. 3view is 100-999 viewers, etc. 2view means she has a small audience.
>>111335174it means her average viewer count is in the 2 digitsgo to the numbers thread /#/ if you wanna learn some lingo
>>111335182I used to watch some of her YouTube clip montages. I actually really miss the old model. I think it was her second model. Totally unrecognizable as smashed head gremlin with wonky eyes, lmao
>>111331601kys noufagi
>>111335218What if her name is "small vtuber"?
>>111335677Her name is
>>111331601>I watched this smaller Vtuber for like a month and I enjoyed her content, and she was entertaining. Out of nowhere she started to do a whole week collab with a streamer friend (a dude) and I really dislike their dynamic. Like they're overly flirtatious "I give you kisses on the cheek " 'Stahp I blush', "wow its so insane how much we have in common. Its like we are soulmates. It kinda gets scary" "right ? Where were you", and or they do jokingly sexual remarks "ha, I have such a big thing" "what ? I hope you don't mean in your pants, right? hehe."take the indie pill they said
>>111331601It's not on you and she's trying to guilt you with labels. If you don't like her cuck seating her fanbase, than leave her. I respect you for leaving that vtuber anon. You have more self-respect than you think
>>111331601>Am I "parasocial" for leavingAnon, you were parasocial the instant you participated in chat.
She's a thin-skinned nobody and you're a parasocial retard. Anyone insisting you aren't is also retarded.
>>111331601Who the fuck wants to chat with someone go get in irc