Vtubing corpo viewership for Q1 2026Nijisanji is growing, everyone else is shrinking. But you guys told me Nijisanji was dying?
>>111378007>Makes catalog bait after getting laughed out of numbers
niji is dying, post their smash bros tournament numbers from yesterday
>January-March>stats before the bots die
>>111378155>>111378310holocope
>>111378386What happened to kuzuha numbers?
>>111378007uuhhhh phase bros...? where we at?
>>111378386Okay I'll do it for you. A tourney with kuzuha and kanae did worse than a tomodachi life stream
>>111378530I've been out of the loop. What's going on? Did Niji start falling off or was there some kind of bot purge? Did cloudflare die?
Makes senseJanuary and most of February still had the engine bots at full powerThey’ve been trying to replace them to mixed levels of success
>streams chartsLmao come on man
>>111378007>But you guys told me Nijisanji was dying?Only a dumbass would think that the loss of a few ENshitters could kill the largest vtuber agency in the world. Just as stupid as people saying Gura's graduation would kill Hololive.
>>111378864Except their overall numbers went to complete shit after march 5th and this chart shows the period where their botting was off the rails
>>111378007imagine watching a corporate vtuber in 2026
>>111378525less than 1% of the 5.2% other category
>>111378637King Engine died a month and a half ago. Also OP is pretending not to know the difference between "Niji EN is dying" and "Niji as a whole is dying" in an ill-advised and utterly ineffective effort to try to convince people that Niji EN does not have a foot in the grave.
it's fine, the botnet is back, ramp up those hours, kings and queens!
>>111378637>Did Niji start falling offThey're going to hit half of their box viewership they had in 2024 despite massively botting over 3/4 of their entire roster throughout 2025. They already lost 1/3 of their 2024 viewership in 2025.>some kind of bot purgeOne of the bot viewfarms that anycolor and brave have been using for a while either got noticed and culled by YT or they stopped paying for it. They've been actively employing it for almost exactly one year on the dot(though some testing started 4 months before Feb 2025, on Oct 2024 with Ars and some other niji JP members that were actively botted with it throughout all of 2025). Dubbed "the king engine" to mock wilson from niji EN who was the first niji to take notice of his inflated viewcount, who eventually claimed it was natural(it wasn't).>did cloudflare dieNo.
>>111378007NijiJP is doing fine. But in what world is NijiEN *not* dying?
>>111379122Wake me up if they're still relevant 5 years later.
>>111379469vtubing's barely been relevant as a whole for 5 years.
>>111378525Niji and every other vtube corpo are botting to hell. It's hard to compete when you're the only one playing fair
>>111378007Where is vshojo?
>>111379122>NijiJP is doing finefive of their 8 new debuts from THIS WEEK are already sub 2k viewers
niji is so dead that it hosted the biggest one-fandom doujin fan event in japan last week, but this doesn't count because /#/ said so
>>111378007are niji gonna nuke en branch now?
>>111378007Indies are where it's at. There's no reason to watch corpo vtubers in 2026.
>>111378007>But you guys told me Nijisanji was dying?Because it is.
>>111379828I hope there's only one indie Vtuber standing. No other indie Vtubers shall stand before them.
>>111379687>banned from comiket>less visitors than a single day of Holo EXPOlol nijifujos would rather make porn of their shitters than go to their official events, as evidenced by niji FES downsizing
>>111379625still living rent free in your head for some reason
>>111378007phase got less than 0.6% now?
>>111380015Vshojo is dead because the whole thing was a scam and "muh talent freedom" was a complete lie, actually.
>>111378155Tbf its Ryushen but if any of the heavy hitters like Kuzuha or Kenmochi put up those kinda of numbers you would have a point. Would it do better numbers if it were on the main channel then.
>>111380088>Would it do better numbers if it were on the main channel thenkuzuha's recent SF6 finale only hit 55k on the main channel lol
of course Niji is thriving... it's even becoming it's own genre called "Game with a lot of characters but most of them are negligible"https://i.ytimg.com/vi_webp/t4faDr7vUOU/maxresdefault.webp
>>111379828Streamcharts had to add literally every single fucking indie with 1 viewer to get this result. They went so overboard phase got dropped below 0.1% on their chart.It's why absolutely nobody takes them seriously anymore.
>>111380136But that was the free part. He already 6-view SF6 prelim tournament. Who knows what it would have been if it wasn't paywalled.
>>111380315Hours watched is, and always will be, the stupidest metric. It has become popular because it is so easy to manipulate.
>>111378007How many debuts has Niji had in the past two years? How many has Holo had?
>>111380463This, it's no surprise that the day niji started employing the king engine they had all of the ones they used it on start grinding endurance streams to farm watch hours.
>>111380542Nijisanji JP has 10 debutants in 2025. They have 10 debutants this year so far and they'll add more before the end of the year.
>>111378007>indies 50,4%FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOM
>>111380743The freedom... to kill each other until there's one Vtuber standing. Hope your oshi is not on the kill list.
>>111380993more like freedom to fuck sykunno lol
>>111378007>sample size is still 11000Looks like they realized people caught on to their tactics and stopped increasing it every chart update.
>>111381311Or maybe they're still increasing it but not updating the number since 11,000+ still counts for any number higher than that.
>>111381175And after they cancel him and unalive himself, they'll surely kill each other or bully someone because they're not satisfied in bullying someone to death.
if your priority is jerking off over numbers instead of jerking off to your oshi and watching and enjoying streams, you're gay. plain and simple. you are below me. you are the scum on my shoe, i am intrinsically better than you. never forget that.
>>111381423I kind of hope he just returns to streaming and watch as they all flock back to him in a year.
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>>111381982Nigga they went from tracking 3000 vtubers to tracking 11000 to get that result.That's 65 hololive members vs at 10000 indies.You consider that a win? Nobody takes streamcharts seriously after that shit.
>>111382039Cope corposlave.
>>111382090>Need 10000 people to get 3.3 times the market share of 65 people>You're the one coping not meAre /lig/gers serious?
>>111382131Meanwhile Kiara herself is talking about how she's sad that she's not able to directly ask her community's opinion on things and how she's lost freedom over some of her decisions and how she's demoralized. I'm not sure why you guys oshi that company so much. Controlling Japanese companies simply don't seem like they're a very good fit for many of the girls.
>>111382131/lig/cucks oshi women that revealed they fucked sykunno that should tell you what type of person they are and why they're so miserable
>>111382305>He thinks breaking Kiara's spirit isn't based Fucking /lig/cuck
/#/ was a mistake
>>111382305Meanwhile your average indie
>>111379687That's cool. Can you tell them to stay in Japan and never leave again?
>>111381311>Looks like they realized people caught on to their tactics and stopped increasing it every chart update.What's wrong with increasing it? A larger sample size is always better
>>111382636post the one nijinigger that robbed and stabbed an old person so they could use the money to superchat nijis
>>111379653Quantity is a quality all its own. Or did you think that they debuted an 8-member wave, for the first time since 2018, and right before the end of the fiscal year; for some reason other than to pad the main branch's end-of-fiscal-year headcount?
>>111382039>You consider that a win? Nobody takes streamcharts seriously after that shit....Why? You don't "win" with data. It's data. You're not supposed to use those charts as some kind of tribalistic scoring system, retard.
>>111378007Holobronies have been getting bad news pretty much every week this year, so coping that Nijisanji is dead/dying is the only thing they have left.
>>111382718>Or did you think that they debuted an 8-member wave, for the first time since 2018, and right before the end of the fiscal year; for some reason other than to pad the main branch's end-of-fiscal-year headcount?No I think they did exactly that and it's to try and convince their investors they aren't falling apart. Same reason why they're using different bots shortly after their engine bots died out for nijien. Gotta keep those watch hours up.
>>111382740We dont sign our posts here
>>111382707>What's wrong with increasing it?Because 50% of 11,000 and 50% of 4,000 are completely different things.
>>111382794What things are they, anon? Why would 50% of 11,000 vtubers somehow be worse than 50% of 4,000 vtubers? >>111382774Haachama just came back and there's been several 3D events announced or taken place recently. They seem to be doing greatJesus christ, is /#/ always like this?
>>111382774Saying this when this is the best few months many Holo fans have had for over a year is yet another example of nijinigger shortsightedness. Niji is losing sponsors, their stocks halved in value in two quarters, they got caught manipulating their stock with the help of chinese companies, they have billiions of yen worth of unsold merch, and their biggest official events have been downsized yet HoloFES and EXPO expanded.Haachama is back, Miko off hiatus, Hololive Dreams is going to hit 1mil pre registrations, even EN and ID are getting more concerts and even sololives now. niji is dying and Holo is thriving.
>>111382832>What things are they, anon? In case I wasn't clear enough: 50% of 11,000 is 5,500 and 50% of 4,000 is 2,000. Hopefully, you can understand that 5,500 and 2,000 are two different numbers.
>>111382740>Why?I just explained why. Streamcharts slowly increased the amount of indies they included in their numbers from 3000 to more than 10000. In their write ups they didn't acknowledge them doing it and acted like Holo's market share was decreasing while it was in fact unaffected or even increasing.
>>111382834>Haachama is backOfficially announced skinwalking, not allowed to stream.>Miko off hiatusWho cares? Afghans supposedly.>Hololive Dreams?>EN and ID are getting more concertsMore wasted HoloJP money.
>>111382988>skinwalkingShe'll be streaming soon enough, they want to ease her back into it.>who cares>image stolen from a nijibaba's twitterLOL>?typical nijitard>wasted HoloJP moneybut enough about holostarsHere are your new nijis not even a week after debut.
TOTALCORPODEATH
>>111383130>>111382317
>>111382866Wow, anon! You learned kindergarten math! Now explain why one is somehow better than the other to the point of whining about it on a mongolian basket weaving forum. >>111382900Sure, anon. If by writeups from "steam charts" you mean "/#/" More data being recorded isn't some kind of us vs them contest.
>>111383130BASED
>>111382900...And? You make it sound like this is some conspiracy. Helll, look at the charts themselves in >>111381311The corpo numbers were virtually untouched going from 4-6k. Adding another 5000 0-1views wouldn't cause some kind of dramatic shift for the top dogs because in the end, it's still just data. You also have to look at the period that it was covering: July through September, during which there was a severe lack of streams due to the events and concerts going on.
>>111379980>banned from comiketYou shouldn't need to make things up to shit on Nijisanji
>>111382715
>>111383109not only that but that image has already debunked, it's just antis (a nijinigger of course) using fake labels to discredit Miko because they're jealous of Miko's popularity kek. Miko mogs nijishit and other vtubers everyday
>>111383657>nijiniggers rob and kill old people to give kuzuha superchatsjezas
>>111382988This post reeks of noupagi smell
>>111383392Because that's a pie chart, meaning it works on percentages. Going from the first chart on >>111381311 to OP's chart, you'll see that for example, Hololive's value decreased from 23.5% to 14.3%. Wow, such a sharp drop isn't it? But then you pay more attention to the data, and you see the sample sizes: going from 4k to 11k means that Hololive decreased from 23.5% of 4000, which means 940, to 14.3% of 11000, which is 1573. Wait, Hololive's value decreased from 940 to 1573? It actually increased! Huh???What does this actually mean? That the chart is dishonest. It tricks people who only pay attention to percentages into believing that certain values decreased due to having a lower apparent number, despite how due to the fact that the sample size they used increase, those values actually increased as well. And (You) fell hook, line and sinker for it. Nice job needing me to explain everything in this much detail after failing to grasp the issue 2 other times.
>>111378007phase still 0% despite being one of the few big western based corpos left
They were so desperate that they had to rerun the old Gura merch lmao
>>111383874Anon, I'm sorry, but if a number is a smaller percentage of a whole, it's a smaller percentage of a whole. Because it's a percentage chart. a percentage of viewership recorded, not a raw stream watch hours chart. I'm sorry you don't like that the data doesn't show your favorite person in 1st place or whatever, but that's quite literally your problem.The chart shows the raw data and you're mad because it decided to be more accurate by adding more samples. You can't "win" with a chart like this, as baffling as it may sound to your tribalistic monkey brain.
>>111378914When it comes to agencies, "overall numbers"or viewerships in /#/fags term matter little. Profit is king and AnyColor profit is higher than any other higher than every other competitors including Cover
>>111384516Didn't they just report an absolute disaster of a quarter that missed every single goal by a hilarious margin, on top of having to admit to an entire warehouse full of unsold merch?
>>111384526No? And that isn’t mutually exclusive with having higher profit than every other competitors either
>>111384627The investor's report doesn't go away if you pretend it doesn't exist, anon
>>111382832>Jesus christ, is /#/ always like this?It's worse
>>111384627Nigga I saw the investor report they took a huge loss on unsold inventory they had to destroy
>>111382832>Jesus christ, is /#/ always like this?this is specifically a nijinigger(most likely a nijiEN nijinigger) that still stays there even though nijiEN's been the laughing stock of the board and vtuber world for over two years
>>111378007ugh why is their site so shit to navigate. What's the direct link? I wanted to see the breakdown
>>111381311>independents rising up like crazy, while the overall numbers stagnateinteresting, I was for sure under the impression that vtubing was gaining in popularity overall, tho this is just a one year period so we'll see how things move
>>111379625bankrupt and dead
>>111379687Jeez, that's way smaller than lines at holoexpo, how embarrassing
>>111378007>>111382988>holo dropped 40% while niji dropped 20% in march>somehow it's nijibot diedlmao at /#/nigger cope
>>1113835495000 1views with just 10 watch hours average per day (5 people watching a 2 hour stream) would increase the indie category watch hours total by more than 1.5 million
>>111386013they made double the profit money compared to cover in the same timeframe so that loss is negligible
>>111389379Anon? Going from 8214 to 6345 average ccv is a smaller drop than going from 3236 to 2277 average ccv. That's just basic fucking math.
>>111378007Huh? Where's Phase?
>>111379687>niji-only event: 7000 creator booths, biggest of all time for an one genre event in japan, bigger than touhou at it peak>comike's vtuber catalog: 1k5 booths that share between holo, vspo and many other vtuber in the marketreally make SEAnigs seething huh
>>111389495Can you point me to the list of 7000 circles that participated or is it just a "it came to me in a dream" kinda thing?
>>111389484irrelevant :)
>>111389596yes, it came to me in my dreamhttps://checklist.familiar-life.info/?e=2434117069 circles
>>111384452A smaller percentage of a bigger whole is a bigger number than a higher percentage of a smaller whole.
>>111378637marine barely streams anymore so she has gura's old buff. holokeks pretend that noombers that high are completely normal for their faction.
>>111379687NIJISEETHEit paid off most of htose attendees and everyone else is just trying to get on the merch speculation market just like what they tried to do by pretending that one kansai bitch was a reincarnated angel
>>111380188kekcan you imagine someone being into NPC bitches?instead of pursuing the headliners, you cuck yourself by giving up on them and settling for mobs which is all blackisanji is
>>111381328>>111382707>>111383549>>111383874Sisters really are retards. Do you only ever have cock on the mind or what?
>>111378007the numbers do not lie
Let's see what has happened to Niji since March 5th>NijiEN lost up to 70% of their average viewership and watch hours>Their Mario Kart tournament went from a ~150k CCV peak to 52k.>Ryuuden's Super Smash Bros went from a 77k peak on 2023 and 75k on 2024 to a 39k on 2026.>Kuzuha had two of his worst streams ever, including a 5.7k peak CCV playthrough of Overwatch>Their eight new debutants dropped to the 1k-6k range on their first stream after debut>NijiEN had their first, second, third and fourth 2view streams in history (all Ryoma, lmao)And you have probably watched the spreadsheet by now. I made it, did you like it?
>>111390588A percentage is a percentage is a percentage.
>>111391390Percentages are indicators of numbers. If you think 100% of 1 is more than 1% of 1000, you aren't much different from a brainless monkey who thinks bigger numbers are better but doesn't even try to understand what those numbers mean.
>>111391470No, a percentage is a percentage. I'm sorry if you don't like that a percentage isn't as big as you want it to be, but it's still a percentage of a larger whole. Nobody gives a shit that you REALLY want one number to be bigger than the other when it's not compared to everything else and REALLY wish X or Y wasn't counted so your number could look bigger.This is why you numbermonkeys are a plague. You look at raw data and just think, "Oh man! I bet I can use this to beat the other guy!" Go the fuck back.
>>111391570NTA, but you do know that the fucking Peanut is counted as "independent" and his Twitch YT and KICK's numbers are added together just to skew the everloving shit out of that graph?Yeah, they added fucking non VTubers into the sample of course it's bad data
>>111391654Sure, and plenty of other nontraditional JP vtubers were added beforehand, too. It's data. Nobody cares about your dick measuring contest in /#/.
>>111391570Yes, percentages are percentages, and percentages indicate a proportion of a number. People use them to make statistics easier to understand. That's why you say "whatever% of some number", that "some number" is just as important as the "whatever%" and both are used together to make comparisons easier for monkeys who have at least 1% of the average brain mass.It was very amusing seeing a numberfag completely fail to understand how percentages work, insist that bigger is better without a frame of reference, and then accuse anyone who tries to teach him how percentages work of being the numberfag instead. Thank you.
>>111391849VStats added Peanut to their website just to put Miko as #2, why are you running defense for something so immature
>>111391242>>111391140
I'm sure they're supported by some illegal shit they have ties to behind the scenes
>>111378007>Hours watched cope againlollmao
>>111390538Wow, with the artistic prowess to put a few letters on a page and for top left to even go the extra mile and open up MS Paint and make a few ellipses to portray the "spilled milk" designated in the title. I mean, these are just monumental works of art that could only, only be put on display at that convention I'm sure (because they'd be rejected from literally any other)
>>111391906Because caring about who's #1 or #2 with data like this is retarded. It's a fun factoid at best and it does not matter. If you don't like that peanut was there, remove him from the sample yourself and say Miko is the best. It's like whining that a cheetah is faster than a lion because you really want lions to be the fastest big cat and you think cheetahs are disqualified because they can't roar. It's childish.
>>111392360It's more like saying that the average speed of a cheetah decreased by 3% in comparison to all felines because your cat gave birth to 10 kittens since the last time the speed of all felines was measured.
>>111392431If your cat gave birth to 10 kittens and that was enough to tip the balance of the cheetah population's control of this communal speed number, then the cheetahs objectively lost control over a percentage of this communal speed total. After all, last time when you nearly doubled the number of samples there was no change in the rankings. Again, a percentage isn't a comparison between a group and its past self. It's a comparison between a group and the rest of the whole. It's not difficult to understand.
>>111392620What if the sample size you had previously was 1 cheetah and 1 fat pregnant cat? "All felines" could mean "all felines you have seen and you live in the middle of a jungle where there's a cheetah running around".That's why everything matters when you're dealing with percentages, and why jumping from 4000 to 11000 sampled items completely changes all the data shown in a chart. The "whole" shown in the chart changed, so everything else also changed.
>>111378007wonder why they dont include the original data's warning
>>111378007>>111392992>tl: The statistics for this period may be influenced by high-frequency concurrent user manipulation bots.
>>111392790Except each item doesn't have anything close to a comparable value because the chart isn't measuring the total number of streamers as its metric to begin with. As seen from the jump from 4k to 6k, adding more low view shitters doesn't make much of a difference to the overall totals, especially as the total watch HOURS increases (the value by which everything is cut a percentage.) The reason retards like you and >>111383874 are stupid is that you're comparing the percentage to the total number of SAMPLES rather than the actual value of them. Q2 2025 had 507.55m watch hours. Of which, Hololive made up 25.1% of that total. That's a value of 127.4 million watch hours. Q3 2025 had 426.5m watch hours. Of which, Hololive made up 18.5% of that total. That's 78.9 million watch hoursThis is a significant decrease. >B-but everyone went down-Yes, that's how percentages work.
>>111391140But they don't necessarily tell the whole truth, either.One of those companies pays its talents what they're worth, even if it means that the CEO is not the most highly paid person in the company. The other company pays its talents only 2% of the merchandise revenue, and has caused multiple talents to have major problems with their taxes. Can you tell which is which based on the companies' revenue and profit numbers?
>>111393049And comparing that Q3 2025 chart to OP's Q1 2026 chart, we get that Hololive went from 18.5% of 426.5 millions, which is 78.9 millions, to 14.3% of 571.93 millions, which is 81.7 millions. An increase, despite the lower percentage, because they also increased the amount of watch hours in the sample size.The best thing about numbers is that it's impossible to argue with them.
>>111378007/vt/ is overrun by tourists? no way
>>111392224SEAnig can't read huh? It wrote novel right there, of course it doesn't have pics
>>111378155Nah. Both Niji and Holo will be fine. Certain branches, however... homos and NijiEN, I'm looking at you
>>111378007holokeks pretend to be the big dogs of vtubing and they can barely get to 1/7 of the total viewership.Pathetic.
>>111393903>so good vets leave>holes so big they are still struggling to recoveri am getting mixed signals
>>111393980Yes, anon. And despite their increase, others increased more or were added to the record. You're refusing to accept that hololive is not isolated in a pie chart.
>>111398000So in other words, it's just a fanfic
>>111390538Seeing those faggots coping hard makes me laugh
>>111400113paid actors. If you go through the right agency you can get a mob pretty cheap. nice try though.
>>111389379March has FES+EXPO and it's common for some Holos to take a break after. You can see in your chart they dropped almost 25% in stream time and 16% total streams. Multiplicatively this leads to what should be around at least a -35% loss in watch hours, not far off the expected -40% reduction. A reduction in streams from some First Army members can explain the rest.Meanwhile niji streamed for longer and streamed more but their watch hours dropped, because their CCV dropped, because over 3/4 of nijisanji is botted. They should have seen around a 14% increase considering their total streams and total hours streamed both increased, but because halfway through March they stopped using some of their bots that's why you're seeing the -24.9% reduction in watch hours. The "king engine" bots made that much of a difference that their absence caused this. If anything it's not showing the full story because this happened mid-March so they still benefited from one of their largest bot sources for half the month and STILL saw a 25% loss.
>>111400113Not even 1/10 of what EXPO gets a year and it's the full might of nijifujos at their biggest con selling mostly porn fanfics, grim.
>>111378081try it again
>>111403280>Page 10 bump after thread was dead for hoursSchizo
>>111403316Some schizos have been bumping threads from page 10 for weeks just to kill generals faster and then make the new thread themselves. It's bizarre
>>111400113there are a couple hundred tables in this picture so I sure hope you've got pictures of halls 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and many more to fully show off the 7000 tables anon
