Oh yeah, it's fucking over.
She should graduate.
>>111510327she just wants to be indie and get all the money now
>>111510327all the best girls leftthe one who should have left didn't.aka that bitch
>>111510327It's only a matter of time before she graduates, she's big enough to survive on her own.
You left this out dramafag
>>111510327Cover is finally cutting StarsEN
>>111510327Kiara too
>>111510327>Mori graduating after ruining hololive for 6 years I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY BROSSHE'S FINALLY FUCKING OFF
>>111510327This biz is so unhealthy because unicorn faggots like you post cropped drama farming garbage and shit their pants when a girl just wants to take a fucking break from being your virtual babysitterGenuinely please just fucking rope.
>>111510327the signs were there
>>111510327I feel sorry for Mori, but the writing has been on the wall ever since Aqua left and no one wanted to admit it. Hell even now no one wants to find fault with Hololive and just makes it a stupid bait about them Vs Phase or Niji or whoever else you can deflect to at that moment.
>>111510453She worded it like she's going on worker's strike
>>111510374>never streamed>best
>gets literally everything in the world>pushed as the face of the branch>WAAAAA WAAAAAAAAA I'M DISRESPECTED>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M UNDERVALUEDYou're overvalued, bitch.
>Sees a bunch of other corpos rise and fall around them>Have some stable gaijin workers that attract the largest audience in the Vtubing space>poke the bees nest>lose the shark>poke the bees nest some moreLET'S GO GAMBLING
>>111510411>>111510453What did you think that bit changed? Didn't really change anything.
>>111510576power of vagueposting
>>111510453>cropped>>111510411This genuinely changes nothing
>>111510493>Sakura petals and a shooting star during the golden 2022 yearsHm.. I wonder what year 2023 was that turned things sour..
>>111510327Why did cover do it?Why greenlit a project that is obviously stolen?Are the bloated staff just so out of original ideas?
>>111510327So no one is really gonna ask for a link, proof or when/where this was posted huh?
I can't take seriously any Myth member saying they've been mistreated or undervalued or anything of the sort. If you're not happy with your contract, that's one thing. If you're not happy with the legal stuff, that's understandable. But to say you're disrespected and undervalued? Like what exactly aren't you getting? You've been given everything from day one.
>>111510411Ok so it's like when a few of us got bummed at work when we cut some of our drivers because of diesel prices. Yeah sure, she can take a break. Kys Op
>>111510595>>111510597Without the last paragraph it sounds like she's not coming back for a very long time. She's only rescheduling the first two karaokes she had planned so she'll be back by the end of the month
She finally found out that she will never be japanese
>>111510643I know it's genuine and Mori wrote it because there's a faggy yall in there.
>>111510453>unicorn faggotsNigga what does unicorn have to do with bait?
She's mad because Suisei completely mogs her now and Cover told her to her face that her performance has been disappointing on every metric lmao
>>111510453>unicornsAre you ok buddy?
>>111510327Can I open the champagne bottle I've been saving for Mori fucking off?Homos gonemori goneHololive is healing
>>111510657lol myth barely had any support/management for the 1st 1-2 years and still somehow put en vtubing on the map.
>>111510643If you can't identify a person thru their sentence structure then you failed as a real fan or as an anon.
>>111510327Undervalued and disrespected? This ish got 2 sololives years before anyone else in EN got them (including Gura) and she's made the host of all EN events up until recently when Kiara decided to do the Hytale event that everyone else in EN has pretty much ignored. What more does she want.
>>111510712finally a sane post
Chuubas really need to learn how to politic harder. Get Kevin Nash in as a consultant and learn to say "that doesn't work for me, brother" in Japanese and you could head off so many of these meltdowns before they happen.
Reminder that the current ENs who are vagueposting behind the scenes shit are the same whores who either directly or indirectly support the homos and want them to succeed.
>>111510657Especially when it's from Mori, she got absolutely everything compared to the others in Myth.
>>111510750It's cool. She'll finally stop ruining every collab she's in.
>>111510712>>111510754>MindbrokenNice
>>111510597>>111510595>I'll be back, thoughIt changed a lot. She is still very obviously pissed off, but she isn't considering graduation so no one but deadbeats cares
>>111510750Sounds like being overworked or the other talents would not be able to handle that much work. Kiara tried i guess.
THD is actually happening and these whores are just using it as an excuse to not stream in the name of 'protest' lmao
>>111510750>>111510576She is mad because Cover stole her idea and gave it to Lui as "official show"
>>111510715Nobody got anything year 1 and 2 of Myth, including the JPs. It was COVID. Everything was locked down. We all subsisted on Minecraft.
>>111510327Everything will be okay. Either Cover starts respecting her, or she goes her own way.
>>111510327>>111510433how do we fix white women always being the problem?
>>111510797Mindbroken why. I'm getting what I want. Mori graduating>>111510828Management. I kneel.
>>111510773>Get Kevin Nash in as a consultant and learn to say "that doesn't work for me, brother"That was Hulk Hogan you gAyEW watching tranny. Make like Nash and get raped in an alley.
>/VT/ still can't read
>>111510666>>111510798I didn't think she was graduating. Her break didn't even register in my mind as important. The big lines here are the disrespected and undervalued part and the being unhappy behind the scenes part.
>>111510854bro she literally did the 'differences with management'
>>111510657I could kind of understand this take coming from year 1 Mori but now? Seriously? This bitch has had a sololive and is the face of EN, she's on all the merch, the advertisements, everything. What the hell more does she want?
>>111510432we can only hope
Gura and Ame leaving hurt Myths position and killed all their leverage. Mori still thinks Myth are the flagship and everything runs thru Myth, but they are half a gen now and life went on without them being the flagship.
>>111510327Cover has no money
>>111510327This is why she's acting out, she sees what the competition is doing and knows Holo's about to get mogged this summer, and Holo talents are getting another pay cut because "budget cuts"
>>111510843>Cover starts respectingIf these en bitches can start getting the bottom line up again like in 2020-21 then we can talk
>>111510411>>111510880
>>111510327Very based stand honestly, hope she will figure it out.
>>111510666She literally tweeted don't know when I'll be back, and the wording is pretty damning to cover
>>111510828what Lui idea? The Animal tournament? Lui been doing that.
>>111510712Not if Kiara is still there
>>111510890Myth is still the flagship. I even forget the original group name of gen 2. Advent is running on memes. Justice after all these years still couldn't find their footing.
>>111510917>Mori acting out because ex Holo are doing a low level concert in front of 800 peoplemeds
What's happening? I genuinely don't understand what more these people want.
>>111510327Didn't know there were still people seething about pink woman in current year
>>111510666>it sounds like she's not coming back for a very long timeInshallah.
>>111510917>this mogs holosummerShitters and liars shouldn’t have opinions.
>>111510917>mogged>1,200 people at max capacityRORU, RUMAO even
So what's she going to do about it? Oh, right. Nothing. Being a Indie is a hard, Mori.
>>111510327AI LOVING BLACKLIVE
>>111510949https://x.com/moricalliope/status/2049835360755347589.They literally took the name too so you can't claim that it was a coincidence either
>>111510974They want creative freedom over their personal projects rather than JP management postponing them indefinitely, outright shutting them down, or making so many changes that they've completely lost sight of the original vision. It's not a big ask yet it keeps happening, no matter how many talents leave
>>111510712Nice try troony but I'm still not gonna watch phase
>>111510974Probably because you don't have a whole context anon, and you won't have any as it's a thing inside the org.
>>111510854This is pretty much a boycott until either Cover starts treating her how she wants or she graduates. She literally says she feels, "disrespected and undervalued." This is all language designed to get fans to put pressure on Cover to change things and even effects their rep. "I'll be back though, ONCE I FEEL I can continue streaming with a smile for you all."
>>111511009Is she really butthurt because a smaller talent is being given a chance to shine instead of her? She's already hosted 10000 events already, let someone else have a turn
>>111511005*A hard mode
>>111511027>or she graduatesBased hololive will finally be rid of the cancer
>>111511005>Being a Indie is hard
>>111511040lui deserves nothing because she is a blight on Hololive
>>111510327She'll be back in a week, a week and a half tops. she is too much a workaholic to take any meaningful time off.
>>111511005If Mori goes indie, she will be forgotten in oblivion kek
>>111511027What you want, bitch?
>>111511040Did you actually get run out of /#/
>>111511009>greenlighting a stolen idea creates a rift between holojp and holoen>theme of this year's enreco is civil warBravo kojima
>>111511040It's not just giving the presenter to a smaller talent, they outright stole her idea, name including, and passed it over to someone else without telling her
>>111511060Isn't she ramping up activity on her roommate?
>>111511040lui literally collabs with EN nijimen she is the worst thing that has ever happened to Hololive
>>111511065Did you? Mori has way higher noombers than lui does, she's just being greedy and selfish. Haachama had a mental breakdown because she still hasn't had a sololive in 7 years but Mori has had 2.
>>111511027>disrespected and undervaluedObviously anons here can't understand, because they are faced with it on a daily basis, they are used to being treated like shit by chuubas like most vtuber viewers desu
Sounds like another Fauna 'disagreement with management' to me, just another Selen and a way to get fans on side to support your inevitable pre-planned, pre-merched indie career, only for it to turn out to be a completely selfish act that leaves the rest of EN picking up their pieces and dealing with the aftermath. Hope Mori just fucks off at this point she's caused so much damage for the branch during 2020-2023 and we're STILL dealing with it. I hate white American vtubers so much it's ALWAYS them.
Lol Kiara had a talk show/interview show long before Mori, what is this bitch talking about, also Chloe was trying to do a show like that as well (Baku Radio) but it got canned after 1 episode
her PL just dropped some merch too. i think she in particular would be fine if she graduated
>>111511109Good fuck off already
>>111511027READ RETARD>>111510411
>>111511093Lui Mogs Mori in numbers, Mori only crosses 5k with raids + bots, Lui gets that playing anything
>>111511109Every time she feels like graduating she tries to push her RM with a new album/concert but then inevitably comes crawling back to holo.
>>111511109You can make a comfortable living on like 500 CCV. No Holo is going hungry.
Lui should just get out in front and say that she had the idea the same time as Mori so it's fine if they share credit
>>111511027>until either Cover starts treating her how she wants or she graduatesShe already said that (which OP didn't include in his picrel) she will be back so graduation is out of the question. She still plans to attend events so I'll give her break 2-3 weeks max
>>111511011Oh no, they're getting the baby's first corpo job experience and now all of the sudden its woe is me? pathetic
>>111511133lui won't say anything because her mouth is full of ren zotto and vox akuma cock.
>>111511124read this one>>111510327
>>111511103Bro Shuba has this talk show thing already and Suisei still does her NK radio thing, this Holo talk show is just being redundant
>>111511155So basically she's pulling a Gura?
This doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Cover. It could be third party contracts and stuff. Dramafags stay dramafagging
>>111511128cause no one is gonna take her rm seriously if shes still in holo.
>>111511145Yep this is definitely the first time it's ever happened, and isn't indicative of a deeper ingrained issue at all, Mori should just let all her ideas be passed around the talents like a blunt, fuck it why not give the lyrics she's written for an upcoming song to someone else too? Fucking retard
>>111511131If that was true, mid-level indies wouldn't have graduated left right and center. Or more accurately, you will be fine if your goal is only to live without enjoying any luxury or saving for the future.Like, everyone can lives "comfortably" making $4K a month. If your job only ever gets you that much, though, you won't want to stick with it for long
>>111511124Maybe you should read anon. That bottom quote is from the second one.
>>111511183>fuck it why not give the lyrics she's writtenBecause no one would want them.
>>111511133Mori already did a few episodes 3 years ago. It was just on break / on hold. Gong to be hard for Lui to explain why she sat on the idea for 3 years, then
>>111510917I thought Mumei was less than 100 words from losing her voice forever. What is she going to perform?
>>111510327This board has worst reading comprehension then your average shonen fan
>>111511177You anon, is denser than a neutron star.
>>111511177You can't be for real
>>111511222I hope cover punishes lui (deserved for collabing with niji en men)
>>111510850Lay off. OP probably realized his mistake but tore his quad when he was trying to correct it
>>111511224she talked on her last few streamsI think she can only talk when not sucking 1000 cocks per day
>>111511177Kiara recently doomposted about something behind the scenes, which obviously is in reference to Cover >>111510974
>>111511224>What is she going to perform?Sign language
>>111511249so once a month?
>>111511254>cover not mentioned>management not mentioned>''obviously''Uh-huh, doomposting dramafag
>>111511177the only one dramafagging here is mori herself. whatever is going on she chose to vague post and is throwing cover under the bus. Has to be annoying for the other girls when she is effectively telling people to boycott cover until she is happy - that is being a dramafag
>>111511190They graduate because being an indie means hard work by default. You can earn $4k a month or $40k, at the end of the day you're the one handling social media, communication with other indies/artists, taxes and all the other shit unless you decide to hire a manager or multiple like Doki, but even then you're still responsible for those people to not fuck shit up. It's just easier to let corpos handle everything
>>111510327ANOTHER ONETHE AVENGERS KEEP WINNING
>>111511267This is big cope. She knows what 99.99% of people will take away from this. If she doesn't intend to have anyone looking at Cover's direction, she would say so.
>>111511098fuck off nijisister
>>111511061We already know what her indie does, Jakarta shows and iron mouse
>>111510327I wish she'd left before killing all hope that Patlabor could be good in 2026.
>>111510327>>111510433Once Mori and Kiara are gone, will they merge Ina into promise?
>>111510327fake and gay
>>111510917this poverty concert will have less than 1000 people therehololive has never made a concert with that little of attendance
>>111510581Cover is a japanese company. For a japanese company only japan mattersEN and ID have no power
>>111511306No VTuber with 500 CCV is making $40K a month unless they sell their bodies too.I.e: Doki (since you brought her up) is at around 2K CCV most of the time and she isn't making $20K, much less $40KThe point wasn't that indies can't make a lot of money (they can), but that those with 500 CCV or below usually can't.
>>111511027the year Calli lost her smile. shes on break to become born again she'll be back
>>111511381It's a member post, anon.
>>111511334Take her. We never wanted her.
>>111511381>Join
>>111510327I hope it was "Calli-san you are no Gura" for maximum mental damage. Holofags have been extra annoying lately.
Oh God, Kronii is going to be the only one left standing in en, isn’t she?
>>111511425THD motherfucker
>>111511392I wasn't talking about CCV. Obviously if you earn $40k you have a bigger viewer base, but your workload doesn't get any smaller from that, often on the contrary
>Suisei has one foot out of the door already, making her own studio since Cover can't support her enough>Marine is only holding on to play Tomodachi Life>Mori is now going on strike because they stole her ideasHow many more of their heavy hitters need to quit before Cover get their act in gear?
>>111511249Gah, how could I have missed it? Cum guzzling, sore throat, mouthful muffles akin to an Orca call, and it's now live on stage!
>thinking Mori is going to graduate over thisShe's way more resilient than you fags are
>>111511434IRyS, Biboo and Bae ain't going anywhere
>>111511447Marine isn't big on streaming in general nowadays. She prefers to do work behind the scenes related to idol activities.
>>111511434>Promise circa 2026>a Korean, a Chinese and a half-JapaneseThey'll be fine
>>111510327If she thinks that she can make it on her own as a dorky white girl weeb rapper she is very mistaken. She might do alright for a few shows, but she's going to be K-son tier without Cover.
>>111511442Well, you weren't the anon I was replying to then because he said>You can make a comfortable living on like 500 CCV
>>111510327>undervalued & disrespectedgood lord this would be like if a phase origins girl in the year 2026 was crying about this. nigga what have you not gotten that you have wanted within reason?
>>111511447>meanwhile pekora.Please tell me the rabbit is still okay?
if mint can be a successful indie, mori can pull it off too
>>111511488The anime con circuit beckons her
>>111511254Mori said in a stream recently they had an "all hands on deck" meeting with everyone in EN, the Stars also had a meeting like this few weeks before the budget cut announcement.
>>111511434
>>111511489You probably can. What I say is low CCV isn't the reason chuubas apply to corpos
>>111511447>making her own studioCover made her Studio Stellar AND invested into her new agency (which allowed them to establish themselves into a proper agency from just a group of individuals) so Sui isn't going anywhere. Both Studio Stellar and Nerd Inc., have Cover's names all over them
>>111511489>>You can make a comfortable living on like 500 CCVnta but you can make low 6 figures on 500 ccv depending on the variables
>>111510327>yall
>>111511222If you don't work on a project for 3 years you deserve to have it stolen by someone who will
>>111511488She can become a successful VA for funimation
>>111511458This. I'd too would want to take a long break if had to deal with Cover's corporate retardedness
>>111510411>Back >On my other account You forgot that part
>>111511462I was thinking if anyone is jutice would stick but they're all showing signs of flaking off already
>>111511489You can make a living on 500 ccv especially if you also sell merch which most ex-holo indies have done.
>>111510327The based individualist westerner inside her soul that she's kept suppressed to work in the shitty psycho tiny dick jap corpo hell is raging and is finally coming out. I love it. I feel like she has enough pull to put some pressure on them herself
>>111511381>3 days agoanon...
>>111511576???
>>111510327But it was supposed to be just orange woman bad that complains about Cover
>>111511593Why would Gigi complain?
>>111510327Honestly Mori is fucking based for going on a protest hiatusCover needs to fuck off with the smol indie company mindset and start toe-licking the talents like they are deities. the fucking nijinigger cost-cutting bullshit where organs are treated like cogs doesn't fucking work when the talents actually carry the corp and you aren't doing zergrush wave spammingstupid fucking suits
>>111510453>when a girl just wants to take a fucking break from being your virtual babysitterWhy does this make you so angry? Genuinely I don't get it, go watch ERB or Shiroi, why does this make you so upset that a chuuba does GFE? Calli chose to do this so don't you blame her audience. You get the target you shoot for, not deadbeat's fault.
>>111511615Cover would be more based if they fired her right now. I've been waiting for 6 years
>>111510327Lot of out of touch antis in this thread: Mori is HoloEN now. She is the ringleader. If she leaves they won't recover. I don't think she will, but this is not a good sign of the behind the scenes at Cover
>>111510668Kiara as much as said its the reason most of the girls who left left.
>>111510890eh, Myth is still the flagship and Gura is still the flagship talent.It is like when FIFA ended their relationship with EA Sports and forced them to change the name of the game to EA FC. People still call it FIFA and know it as FIFA and buy it as FIFA.
>>111510327THANK FUCKING GODDDDDDDD
>>111511651>Mori is HoloEN now. She is the ringleaderTop fucking KEK
>>111511566>>111511529See my other post >>111511392. They can live but unless they are living in some 3rd world country, I doubt they would've gotten much to save up / spend beyond just, well, living.>nta but you can make low 6 figures on 500 ccv depending on the variablesI really really doubt a VTuber at 500 CCV is making 6 figures a year without selling their bodies but I guess there might be exceptions. Who, though?
>>111510890>Ame leaving>Hurt mythAme glazing was mostly ironic and the gators wanting her dick. She added nothing to the group aside from minor technical ability, which was only relevant because of how overall new everyone else was. Gura leaving was the real loss, but Gura had been gone in all but name for nearly two years prior, so even that wasn't as big a deal. Myth is the flagship of EN. Even now the only real EN merch out there is Myth, with some Council. The opportunities (think concerts) still are myth, despite other gens having objectively better singers. The newer gens have basically nothing still.Mori/Kiara are probably upset at this fact. That while Myth is doing well, everyone else is being sidelined. Not only would they find it unfair, but also overwhelming. My actual guess would be the Ina/Kiara results came back, was considered a large success, and rather than allow other gens to expand and have a chance cover shut it down.
>>111511488>You wouldn't believe this retired ex-rapper idol vtuber did for 20000 yen.JAV is waiting.
>>111511675>I really really doubtAnon, that's not a compelling argument
>>111510828What idea?
I thought /vt/ liked her again after she redeemed herself? Now you all suddenly want her gone lol
>>111511669NTA, but just curious - who else do you think is the leader of holoEN? However /vt/ thinks of her, she is the one both friendly towards all members and is well respected by her peers. There are holoEN members with better viewerships than her, but none of them is as well connected and / or respected by the rest of holoEN
>>111510327Maybe soon holofags will just move on from their dying corpo and start watching actual talents.
>>111511705>/vt/>liking anyone
>>111511705>she redeemed herselfShe never did
>>111510327>Not actually posted anywhereDidn't happen.
>>111511676>She added nothing to the group aside from minor technical abilityWrong. You really don't understand how different HoloEN before 2023 was from HoloEN after 2023. That's the dissonance a lot of people feel hearing about how great Gura and Ame used to be because by 2024 they were shadows of their former selves and their departure didn't really hurt HoloEN as it was speculated
>>111511705>Redeemed herselfYou actually believed the fucking deadbeat discord spam. I hope she's finally gone.
>>111511735https://x.com/i/status/2050200161822146853
>>111511705/jp/ liked her because she farted /vt/ has never liked her
>>111510453Have you considered a different career path foid?
>>111511190Plenty of sub 4 digit streamers showed their earnings after critikal dropped that one video, full time 500ccv is fine but most these bitches stream 8 hours a week
>>111511751She isn't gone.
>>111511505ib4 EN has to compete against each other in sales and revenue. Strap in for ultra begging to stream songs, buy merch, click on sponsor links, turn off ad blockers. There will be referral links to buy concert tickets, member price increases, and begging for more fan art and clips. Lowest scorer is getting cut by the end of this year to make an example.
>>111511224You thought wrong nigger you believed the holo defense force over her own words
>>111511781>Strap in for ultra beggingLike they haven't already? Multiple of them are pumping out sponsorslop
>>111511705It's just typical 4chan contrarianism. Also it ain't the whole board it's five faggots in Malaysia if I had to guess
>>111511675>I really really doubt a VTuber at 500 CCV is making 6 figures a year without selling their bodies but I guess there might be exceptions. it would shock you. all it takes is consistent streaming, a big boob model, or know how to donobait to saviorfags.>I doubt they would've gotten much to save up / spend beyond just, well, living.that is en vtubing in general unless you are gura. none of them make fuck you money. they make "I have a respectable job" money just for streaming 20 hours a week instead of it being a real job. they make good money, but not "all I have to do is work for 3 years and I am set for life" money. They are not professional athletes or movie stars here who pull in 7 to 10 figures a year.
>>111511651No one cares mythfag, not even the management. If mori or kiara leaving, cover would just abolish whole gen and put any of them as solo gen name. This applies to 2nd gen too. White women are troublesome
>>111510657you must be mistaking myth for advent
>>111511839Learn to speak English before typing again, ESL retard
>>111511425SISTER SEETHE
Wonder if somehow this has something to do with the time she accidentally linked her PL Instagram on Youtube.>>111511705/vt/ is filled with Tsunderes
>>111511856Only biboo matters to en from advent
>>111511935Biboo doesn't even have 1M subs
>>111511651This is why I think management will capitulate and smooth things over with her.
>>111510327So she graduates (good), who else is she dragging along or will leave in solidarity over the coming months? Half of what's left of EN are Myth fans, can they stomach another leaving before the dream is dead?
>>111511935>Biboo>Not Fuwamoco, the ones who are in literally EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN Ad Holo has made, including being the faces of TWO (2) sets in the card game
>>111511975>So she graduatesNo she won't
>>111511975Anyone that fucks off with Mori should fuck off in the first place
shes not graduating, shes using her position and power to force something throughif she graduates she loses the record deals as they are with mori calliope and mori calliope belongs to coverbest she can do is start over with connections and have fraction of the fame & power, see the "indie avengers"
Reminder that Suisei hated Holo management so much that she had Cover spin her off into an entirely different company with its own management separate from the existing staff. This is their biggest talent with the most mainstream success.
ahhh, finally found that japanese pay piggy that will carry her through her 30’s
I think we're not seeing the picture here, I think some one is graduating, Mori tried to bargain with management in order to stop the graduating talent from leaving, but she got blown off thus showing that her power is limited.
>>111511956there won’t be any smoothing over, capitulation in this case is someone in management getting fired for pissing her off
>>111512043>their biggest talentNo, that'd be Marine.
>>111512043>This is their only talent with actual mainstream success.FIFY
>>111512043Suisei is a total Gangsta ngl
>>111511098>Selen>>111511098>I hate white American vtubers so much it's ALWAYS them.are you retarded?
>>111510327hololive is donezo
also as more holos graduate, it weakens their position as indies. it isn't 2024 anymore where mint and doki and dooby took over and it felt like a huge deal that these big corpo girls are indies and imagine what they can do.
>>111510327you play video games from your bedroom for a livingits a joke how easy your life is
Women can be one of the biggest virtual names in the biz, and still find a way to be sad. I swear to God, vtubers make me more misogynistic every year. Pipe down, slampig.
>>111512154it is more money more problems conundrum. the disease of more.
It's almost bedtime in Jakarta, they'll be gone soon
>>111512043cover still owns her and everything she doesthe "new company" is literally just meme marketing
Mori putting up with japcel management for as long as she did is impressive desu.
>>111511975if she took bae, rissa, shiori, and liz down with her that would be sick.
>>111511935I'm not jaded or anything but the kusogaki schtick will even run dry and another "new" kusogaki takes over.
guessing she wanted her own company too
Lazy streamer isn't happy having half of their income go to paying 30 japanese office drones that exist solely to tell her "well look into that later" or "We can't do that at this time."
>>111510327shes mad about the homos not being able to leech anymore lol
I'm blaming Nerissa for that
>>111510327faggot OP not posting the whole shit and maliciously cropping
>>111512110Sachi seems to be doing okay considering she did everything in her power to ruin her indie debut and doesn't have an actual model. Mori could do okay if she tried and utilized her connections. If she went fleshtuber mode she'd be out of luck though.
>>111511975See I would have said Gigi but unfortunately for Mori she is a chinese and will instead try to swoop in to advance up the ladder for the good of the company. She'll overlap the graduation stream with a big game sponsorship and introduce commercial breaks to streams to thank additional sponsors like Better Help and Razer. Gigi will truly save EN and set an example for the new direction of Hololive.
>>111511538To be fair she's literally texan
>japanese office drones that exist solely to tell her "well look into that later" or "We can't do that at this time."Reminder that this is a common nijinigger talking point.
>>111511090she dropped two songs for video games back to back
>>111512186That's irrelevant to the point I'm making: that Cover management is incompetent, doesn't care about the talents, and Suisei used her clout to escape them.
Being in halo was always a grift for her she doesn't care about the culture just wants to advertise her music
>>111510433It's so funny that fags try to run PR for what has been an obvious shift in Cover's approch to their talents and the general pressure they've received about both their content and work amount over the last 2ish years. I've got a 5 year badge, a 3 year, and a 2 year but I don't suck Cover's cock enough to completely ignore this shit.
>>111510327>this wasnt actually posted anywhere, just checkedop is a tranny
Based BBC enjoyer is gonna get fired lol
AmeSame spelling bee was the last time HoloEN was a real thing, and Odyssey was it's send off (and the only good thing Calli ever contributed to the company).
>>111512357Anon... always hit refresh before posting. Try scrolling up.
>>111512369Why now?
>>111512357nah Mori is just semi smart and has a shit tier membership for gifted subs and then a second one at normal price for actual memberships
>>111510327>Montserrat fontwho the fuck does that lol
>>111510327Things must be pretty sour at Cover if she feels like this is the only way to be heard. I'm sure she knows jap corpo culture better, but from the outside looking in I have a feeling this isn't going to do jack shit. That horrible grad queue from last year didn't change anything either.If jap suits are good at anything it's being stubborn even if it's to their detriment.>>111512369>RM activityFor what even?
>>111510496NIJISEETHE
>>111512369Cover isn't really bothered by her RM activity. They even incorporate some element of that to their MVs and other shit.
When do we start celebrating?
>>111512432>For what even?An increasingly successful music career.
>>111512412>>111512432two different song sponsorships for gamesCover probably sees that as overlapping too much with her holo activities
i genuinely wouldnt notice if she leftsince she debuted and to this day i think that the algorithm has show her to me a grand total of 2 timesi have no idea what shes does, the only thing that would worry me about her graduating is the effect on girls i like that consider her a friend
>>111512344people forget this. But mori forgot that people only listen to her music because she's in hololive. This whole thing will probably blow over. Her ego needs to get deflated every 2 years or so.
>>111512465I doubt this is a cause for celebration. In fact this is a glaring alarm on behind the scenes. If mori goes, biboo might go too and the whole en structure falls apart.
Isn't she doing a live in-person past life performance at another vtuber's concert in the coming months?Maybe she's getting shit from management for that.
>>111510327*BRAP*Na-nana-na-na, nani the fuck?I'm the Satan-flow demon on the set, what's up?Originality? Yo I got that shit on tap 'cause I've been drowning in the melodies of Japanese net rapJesus *BRAP* Jesus *BRAP* JapanesusThe far-east vibes are my goddamn steez butProbably a little strange-lookin' to some, soAllow me to elaborate on where I came fromThey say America’s the land of milk and honeyMore like the land of crime, drugs, guns, hos and moneyAt least according to the SoundCloud rappers today“Gonna make it in the game" every time you press play*BRAP*
>>111512059"Oh no please don't make ERB and Nerissa graduate. We were going to make so much music together as the musical ones">"Here why don't you take Shiori Raora and Bae instead"
>>111512333And as usual that's what anycolor's staff does. They've lost multiple niji girls over the years because they did literally nothing to help them against harassment, stalkers, etc. Lulu returning took almost 5 years but they lost multiple others before that.
>>111512517Anyone that supports Mori is part of the cancer that's been killing hololive for 6 years
>>111512504Based
>>111511335not her fault a monkey like you can't comprehend english
>homocollaber has her idea used by someone who DOESNT hate fans insteadOh no the horror
>>111511052She already acquired generational wealth. Vtubing is just a hobby now.
>>111510327>There are a lot of things behind the scenes that I'm pretty unhappy aboutTwitter:>taking some time off and don’t know when I’ll be backI had zero trust in Cover after the 2025 graduations so I had the feeling they would delay things with Ina and Kronii. Yagoo wouldn't even give Shion a model redesign that had been with Hololive for 7 years he certainly doesn't care about the EN branch.>>111510411That doesn't change anything else that Mori said or the doomposting from Kiara. After having several graduations due to disagreements with management in 2025 it looks horrible that talents are still doomposting in 2026.>>111510890>Gura and Ame leaving hurt Myths position and killed all their leverage.If anything having another EN graduation would look far worse for Cover since it means nothing improved. That even a year after Gura and Mumei left they are still fighting with management.
whats happening in holo en man? I'm out of the loop
>>111510327She and Kiara filed an HR complaint against Ollie's sexual harassment but they were presented clips of them laughing along so it was thrown out and they were assigned team building worksheets instead.
>>111512668Homos and their whores leaving. They're healing.
>>111512611ask me how I know you're a retarded EOP
>>111512660Fuck off outfitschizo
>>111510327>It's fucking overWe've had many warnings in the past.Therefore I'm not surprised.You refused to listen.
>>111511164North Korea has proper radio shows? I thought they only got them from across the border.
Have most anons /here/ considered working as an art critic? For real, overanalyzing the most basic and obvious bs that means nothing to make a big statement that's worth shit but sounds good, it's key for the industry.Some anons would make unironically pretty good art critics, since the retarded art enjoyers want just that kind of analysis.
>>111512299Saying teehee I'll be back after multiple paragraphs talking about how the company is fucking you over and you can no longer smile is a nothingburger. You don't go on a rant like that and then handwave it away with a /s besides to play a pr game with management. It doesn't change that it appears she's getting increasingly upset with cover and the retards in charg.
>>111512553Who said I support mori? I'm just stating the obvious. You could pin point the real reason for every graduation so far but if mori goes, the umg artist, that means things in cover has degraded so far that she would rather choose obscurity than still work under holo. The canary in the mines isn’t compromised friend, it's mori... or ina
Why does this board hate her so much anyway
>>111512299Just sounds like she's essentially going on strike. She's not doing shit for Cover anymore until they fix whatever it is she's pissed about, including streams**except for some things she feels like would screw over other people and she can't commit to do that over her issuesTLDR: It's Nerissa's fault.
>>111512777Go back to your thread jailbird
>>111512504SameI only started seeing her show up after she collabed with Ceci and I still never bothered because she was a chore to watch during those streams too
>>111512769>Insert the "popular demand" vesper and Mori clip
>>111512791That thread is unusable and, guess, what, it's Nerissa's fault.
>>111512769Because the board are gays, foreigners, and gay foreigners.
>>111512769Because of a house party, some podcast faggots, and other random nonsense.
>>111511228What do you expect from a bunch of thirdies who grew up speaking and reading bastardized English?
>>111512855This, but unironically
>>111512660oh hi outfitschizo
>>111511434Fuwamoco will always protect our smiles. Always.
gaijins outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_WtCAG
>>111510411kek, they really can't help themselves
>>111511615first of all, this is retarded but Cover does need to treat it's talents better. Without it's Hololive talents Cover absolutely plummets. They suck at making video games, their face tracking is mogged by indies, and they aren't premier AR or VR tech. Really the only thing Cover's got going for them sans Hololive is their state of the art mocap studio.
>>111510453you want the idol industry glam you get the idol industry churn
>>111512949https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_WtCAGBzMY
how retarded is Cover?they got a good thing going, they're THE vtuber company, and they can't do the most minimal things so that their talents are happy and continue working for them? for what?
>>111510327/sp/ fag hereThis is textbook "my contract is almost up and I'm trying to pressure the team to give me more money" talk.
>>111513050>>111512979Fucking over Mori is based. I hope she finally graduates.
>>111510917>rewind timewhy is vtubing so much about how great it was in the past?>>111510327>I'm someone who doesn't really complainhalf the shit i see from mori is just her being doom and gloom.
>>111513050They're not japanese, its that simple
Mori is the EN Suisei she's literally the face of the branch since gura left and gets tons of huge deals, concerts, albums, Outfits, sponsorships ect.WTF could have her feeling under valued?
>>111511998I said to EN you sperg
>>111513050their fans are brand loyal enough to turn on any talent who leaves, so they honestly need to do just enough to keep them from doing that - no more and no less
>>111512401hard agree, it's been become jp-lite idols since
>>111513161>their fans are brand loyal enough to turn on any talent who leavesbut enough about Niji
>>111513147Being a white woman on her period
>>111513050gaijins out
>>111513095>why is vtubing so much about how great it was in the past?you need to be 18 to post here
>>111513203that's what everyone asked for.>>111513161i still watch rica and roa and some weatherplanet, and i don't watch kson. there are reasons people turned on en who left.
>>111513236>insert daily shachi threads since she used her mic
>>111513261didn't she just increase migration again?
>>111513261>>111513110then why make an EN branch in the first place
>>111513275I asked for them to get all those things without having to move to japan and disappear 4 months of the year
>>111513236>but enough about Nijiniji's western presence literally collapsed overnight because people liked the talents they mismanaged more than the rest of their branch or the company itself, they never really had the brand loyalty that hololive has or it'd be a completely different story
>>111510657Meanwhile the other pink Mori is doing better than ever
Why do anons keep pretending that the corporation is their friend? You don't HAVE to go>GLUCK GLUCK GLUCKevery time they fuck up.
>>111512688Sister, you're seethe is showing.
>>111513350THD and Mori graduating is good
>>111513297They will eagerly take your money while treating gaijin like shit. >but they'll lose that cashflow if they-They don't care, nippon banzai
o7
>>111513350the best corpo girls are the ones that figure out the corpo views talents as a orange and wants to squeeze every ounce of juice from them as they can, but then turn it on the corpo and squeeze everything they can out of the corpo.
>>111510917For real, why join a massive company wide fest/concert, waste time, months and months of work planning just to sing 2 songs on stage and still get paid the same. Hololive just might be too big now, sink time and effort to support colleagues you barely know now to concert goers who are not your fans. She wants to be in more close knit projects and not have to stagnant in bureaucracy, go in there, work directly with the concert managers and get shit done.
>>111512895>A Hololive talent who has never shat on Cover in this capacity (as she herself stated) has expressed her profound dissatisfaction with the companyYou'll need to go overtime to spin this into a win for Cover
Mori is doing the Mint concert soon.
>>111513481chatGPT ass post
>>111511493God I hope so, but I do think she is. She always like +15k CCV an she runs solo and I;ve never seen any drama with her. Also they love Pekomama
>>111513363>you're seetheoh my bad you don't speak english either
>we must hate corpos because they finally are getting rid of MoriYou indie avengerstards can have her. I'm busting out the champagne.
>>111512485RM>game PR dude or even head dev or whatever approach her through any mean>they directly negotiate the terms and everything>she records it in 5 minutes because of course that's what she does>another "masterpiece" (in her eyes)>song ships, everyone is happypink woman>same person sends an official inquiry to the official e-mail, complete with certificates from the local rabi>1 month passes>pink woman gets approached by manager>"what do you mean you took one month to reply?">begrudgingly accept>management replies after another month>pink woman is dragged by the ankles to record it because she has only 1 day to submit it>half-ass the song>management sends it away after one month>she gets some peanuts after 12 months>+1 graduation points
>>111513283Threads made by Phasefags?
>everyone with talent graduates>d-rank amateurs with no talent stay loyal since they will never be anything on their own>company fills up with shitty d-listers
What's RM?
>>111513573hololive fans try to not hate hololive members challenge (impossible)
>>111513560how new?
>>111513678RoommateAka the real person not the avatar
I like calli, her songs are great.Why do you all hate her so much?
>>111510327>new month rolls in>antihomo rules are now live>mori immediately spergs outcouldnt have made it any more more obvious lol
>>111513678It means you’re a dumb newfag and need to lurk at least 2 more years before posting.
>>111513703where do you think you are?
>>111513703It's /#/. Must hate anyone who complains about the dorito
>>111513703The whole point of /vt/ is to whine and cry, not to show support. It's mostly a containment unit for autistic babies to have tantrums.
>>111513697
>>111513703>her songs are great.KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>111513694Really, most Hololive fans have never watched a single stream. They just talk about views and how much the corporation is winning.
>>111510327Happens to most corporation that go public and get large shareholders such as Blackrock.By pure coincidence, of course.
>>111512769nigger music really. or collabs also feel very preformative, fake anger, fake being cute
>>111510327>>111510433>Homos get the boot>Their sextoys get all mopey
>>111513672https://brucefwebster.com/2008/04/11/the-wetware-crisis-the-dead-sea-effect/
>>111513694I don't support homo supporters
>>111513906They are.
>>111513938Commiefornia's headquarter is the worst problem for Cover at the moment, but crooked noses know how to cause issues as well.
>>111513963I'd take Bae's songs over hers any day of the week
>>111510493Rei-chan makes me feel like good things can still survive outside the bright lights of fame.
>>111513989Bae's songs are also great. You don't need to choose one over another.
>>111513837lurk more kid
>>111510493I don't understand this image.
>>111512769Because... WAHHHH SHE IS LOUD AND IT SCARES ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>111513926>most Hololive fans have never watched a single stream>They just talk about views and how much the corporation is winningthe funniest example of this was this one, while basically anyone who actually watched mumei would have seen this coming. imagine being brand loyal to a vtuber company when you don't even watch the streams
>>111513050streaming too hard...gotta do idolshit....oh yeah...idolshit is called idolshit for a reason...
>>111514075says the EOP ESL that doesn't know Lui does male collabs
>>111513989Bae dances like a slut, she locking into the monkey fanbase
>>111514100It's from an MV of "not A-chan" where the place she used to work and have fun slowly became soul crushing corposlop that made her quit
I really hope Cover is not retarded enough to think that the talents (THE GIRLS) aren't their most valuable assets. Yes, you move merch, but the reason why you move said merch is because of the girls. You have concerts sell out because of the girls. And one has to hope that all the graduations hadn't taught them that important fact cannot be dismissed. They lost Kanata, for fuck's sake. We're past the canary in the mines when she went.
>>111514315>They lost KanataIsn't that more due to her wanting to quit at her peak instead of slowly being dragged down due to her illness?
>>111514315>Cover is not retarded enough to thinkthey dont do that anymore, the investors now do it for them lol
>>111514315I wouldn't be surprised if Cover believes they've reached the "too big to fail" state, and that they can survive as a revolving door of talents.>"Who cares if they leave, we can replace all of them in the next gen"
>>111514315Mori should have never been hired. She supports the homos. Good riddance.Yagoo I kneel.
>>111514346There was some semblance of that. She was always inevitably going to have to quit because of her illness. You remember the project with the Holowitches that ended up getting cancelled? For some reason, that all ended on Kanata's shoulders on top of all her other responsibilities. There's a bunch of other things, too, such as being the fucking talent to train the new managers because she was easy to work with and well, it pushed her into exhaustion.It came off as Cover didn't understand how insanely valuable Kanata was. How absolutely miraculous that they had a talent like her. I know that I'm being a fan right now, but like her accolades were nothing to scoff at. She was the closest of the idols to Sora in terms of what "Virtual Idol" was about and they weren't willing to budge on their bullshit for her of all people. Its a little infuriating.Mind you. We'll never have all the details. So please don't take what I'm saying as the end all be all, I guess.
>>111514315Cover themselves want to market the IP not the talent behind the IP. They see Saber as being sucessful for her image not because Ayako Kawasumi voices her in anime and games
>>111511027Reminder that she is comanaged by Universal and this could be her lashing out on them for ruining her enjoyment of being a streamer because she has to decline fun collabs for another ghosted production meeting with 2nd rate japanese rappers
Hey can you anti corpo commies talk her and the homos into graduating instead of writing boring essays. We never wanted her and her homos.Thanks.
>>111514353Any investor would know that idolshit makes no money.
>>111514400>They see Saber as being sucessful for her image not because Ayako Kawasumi voices her in anime and gamesThat may be true in saber's case but saber is a character that only says and does what the writers decide, which I don't have to tell you is different from vtubers.
Why are retards making this about the homos as if the unicorn triforce hasn't been a rotting corpse for over a year?
Say whatever you want about Saba being demotivated by her isolation, but the first indicator she wanted to quit, the uh oh tweet, came a few months before Cover went public. It's clear as day who was in the wrong there.
>>111514433I want her and the yuri-bait, though.
>>111514122/#/fags are so retarded that fucking Fubuki could graduate, put out a post saying "It's over, nothing can be saved", and they'd be celebrating and saying there's nothing to worry about
>>111514400And yet, if they did a "soul transfer" like with Kizuna Ai, the company would get kyoani'd kek
The moment Cover went public as a company, I knew shit was bound to get bad. The only way to make things good again is to go private.
>>111514433She isn't quitting. Calm down, anti-kun.
>>111511676>She added nothing to the group aside from minor technical ability, which was only relevant because of how overall new everyone else was.Are we for real right now
>>111514443Is it though? Some producer has final say what projects get approved because they enhance the IP's image (make more money). Sure Mori can control what she does day to day and smaill things like streams and stuff, but music, major projects, and other stuff thats a bit more than hey lets do a collab in Minecraft today has to get approval by some manager/producer.
>>111514470So true trannybeat. Foobs is actually useful and beneficial for the Holomembers, unlike Mori.
>>111514419she could easily just drop Universal, other talents make music just fine without label
I only recently started watching holostuff.Someone catch me up on why we're hating calli.
>>111514484anon this is quite literally one of the most blatant "change now or I quit" threats to be posted in public
>>111514553she got within a quarter mile of a male, which is basically the same thing as sex, so she's forever tainted in their eyes
>>111514517That's a separate issue.If it was only about the character, why isn't there a new person behind gura?
>>111510327
>>111514400>They see Saber as being sucessful for her image not because Ayako Kawasumi voices her in anime and gamesDumb example because that's true
>>111510327Stop hiring white womenSimple as
>>111514563She is coming back in two weeks.
>>111514470They've been operating like that for years. Truly drone behaviour.
>>111514651Ah, yes. White women specifically are the problem. No other race. It's all women, anon.
>>111514614I trust Friend
>management was the problem all alongso after all that shitposting about her graduation message she was right in the endkek
>>111514685Not really noAsian women actually know their place
>>111510432why would the girls be upset about it?
>>111514614And why should I trust the fox?
>>111514614Corpo bootlicker
>>111514592because they don't need one since the IP itself is valuable not Gura herself. Why do you think they parade her corpse even a year after graduation
>>111514770Meru...Rushia...Hitomi Chris...Artia...
>>111514400This would've been true if Cover actually did anything with the characters beyond the streams. Saber is such an iconic character because she's the face of one of the biggest franchises in the world. She was in anime, manga, vidya, and literally everything else. Hololive never managed to get ANY multimedia project off the ground. No anime, no vidya, nothing. The only things they have are streams and merch (and also music in some rare cases, like Suisei).Meanwhile, Mori is testing the waters. Her roommate got a gig in the Pukey Goddess Shot Trick game, so she's clearly trying to gauge how strong her own brand is while taking Calliope Mori off the air. If that release makes money for her, she will graduate. If not, she will most likely grit her teeth and stay.
>>111514850All miles better than western whores
>>111514861>testing the waterShe already said she is staying and she had 4+ years to "test the water".
>>111514791It's called having empathy You should try it
>>111514813Can you really be distrustful of a fox this cute?
>>111514828I guarantee you that the sales now are nothing compared to what they used to be when she was alive.
>>111513261>gaijins outIf I was in Japan and I saw the number of Indians moving in, I'd get out
>>111513939>hates mori for being "performative">but worships fuwamoco, the most performative vtubers in existence
>>111514685Asian women, and Asian people in general, are more collectivist. They don't like to rock the boat and see the group's success as more important than individual success. It's people like Fubuki or Suisei - they will never stop the Hololive grind as long as either of the parties exists because it would feel like betrayal to them.Westerners have no such allegiances; we only exist for our personal gain. This leads to more innovators and free thinkers, but also turns society into a toxic zero-trust cesspit.
>>111515109TLDR Asians are soulless bug people
>>111514448Muslims in Indonesia, Pakistan, and London, along with no-hopers in the US.
>>111515109you sound like you really like the joker movie
>>111515109Why are they more collectivist if it makes no sense to be collectivistIt's not like asia has equal societies
>>111515211Because it's not collectivism, but a feudal mindset ingrained into their DNA after thousands of years
>>111515109Nimi is such a free thinker for fucking off for vesper's cock
>>111510327>disrespected and undervaluedsure, call me when she gets half the mistreatment Promise did instead of another huge project on a silver platter
>>111515139Westerners can be collectivist too; that's how 60s America was. Everyone rallied for the common good (that being beating communists).>>111515211It makes perfect sense when your tribe, whatever the size, is faced with a common challenge, and in East Asia, that challenge came from literally everywhere, from poor harvests to constant conflicts with their neighbours. Banding together meant survival; individualism can only grow in an abundant society where people don't have to rely on each other, and there are no threats one person can't solve.
>>111514187now type that without crying, beggarkun
>>111515109They aren't "collectivist" just very obedient and conformist
>>111515498You could say they are more civilized
>>111515003nah, I dislike FWMC just as much as Mori, I was a sapling. Nimi is probably the least preformative and most real, now before you go "Napling cuck", are there anything other bitches in the vtubering space that actually willing to tell you the truth?
>>111515529Well with whites it's different. A sense of doing what's best for the community. Doing what's best for society.With asians it's just....obedience. Do what you're told, what's expected of you, do what other people are doing...etc. There is no 'honor', lie cheat steal
>>111515300It's because he gives her what she needs annon. Something you could never do. We're all sorry but it is what it is.
>>111515592Maybe they are more concerned with social status because they used to be poor
>>111515592>Well with whites it's different. A sense of doing what's best for the community. Doing what's best for society.Raiders and pillagers>With asians it's just....obedience. Do what you're told, what's expected of you, do what other people are doing...etc. There is no 'honor', lie cheat stealCivilized people
>>111514861HoloIndie Games too
>>111515581>now before you go "Napling cuck", are there anything other bitches in the vtubering space that actually willing to tell you the truth?nah I'm not gonna do that, my oshi is the bird so I get preferring vtubers who just say it like it is
>>111514873True but that doesn't make the asian women tame in comparison
>>111514762If management is wrong that means Vesper (and any number of females, JPs, etc) was right and that's something /vt/ will never accept
>>111515476>maybe if I act like I was trolling I can hide the fact that I embarrassed myself by not knowing what I was talking about
>Nimi is probably the least preformative and most realKEEEK
>>111515689They actually bow down and do what they are told your only argument is mentally ill exceptions
>the deep silence before everyone tries to get in the last word as the thread dies
>>111515715Mel and Chris weren't mentally stunted, retard. They just used their women charm.
>>111515109You are an idiot. All women are the same.Westerners are just more indoctrinated
>>111514925nice bait
>>111515691But they were right.
No wonder she's spamming shit on her PL lmao, Myth really about to be the 1st 1 person gen cause Kiara obviously has a foot out the door too. The absolute state of Hololive, and to think that Cali was one of the bootlickers who defended management during all the other graduations. This dumb bitch is probably gonna get fired for leaking shit to Connor first
>>111515804Westerners ruined vtubing
>>111515926It's sad you sisters keep trying to be cheerleaders for Hololive's downfall you're too distracted from supporting your organs.
Calli is popular in the lesbian community. This is devastating.
What can she possibly feel "underappreciated" about? Is she actually fucking jealous that Suisei was able to get her own company, because Cali somehow thinks that she's the "EN Suisei" or some shit lmao
despite all the shitposting she got for it, fauna was tried to warn you and was right in the long run
>>111512921>oh hi outfitschizoI am not shocked that things are going badly with management again but Cover are idiots for demoralizing the EN branch only a year after having multiple graduations. Fans will become cynical and jaded especially during a global recession. Hololive depends on their reputation and Japanese corporations really don't understand that western fans are less tolerant of corporate bullshit. >>111513161>their fans are brand loyal enough to turn on any talent who leavesThat wasn't even true for Nijisanji and their fans were known for being corporate bootlickers. When talents start hating their employer the fans will start hating the company as well. Japanese corporations are way too locked into brand name worship they really don't understand western consumers. >>111515691>If management is wrong that means Vesper (and any number of females, JPs, etc) was right and that's something /vt/ will never acceptUnicorns will always hate Vesper for the collabs with Kronii but if you listened to his stories the guy had a sense of honor. If management was being sexist in how they treated Kronii that would explain why Vesper got into a huge fight with management. A growing number of talents are now saying that management does not respect them.
>they'll stop at boys trust me bro>shareholders care about the girls!
>>111513110this is the only post that matters. nobody wants to say it, but japanese racism towards foreigners will always supersede any modicum of success they could have by simply not being intolerable dicks towards them.
>>111516620>getting fired for whiteknightingI know he's gay, but not retarded, outfitshizo
>>111512173>JakartaAnon its Euro bros shitting
>>111513939>nigger musicEvery time I see a post like this I imagine the guy who made it refuses to listen to rock music because delta blues ruined guitars for them
Is this about the homos? Let's go!
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>>111516620Why do you always ignore kronii's retweets or the actual reason why vesper and magni left
>>111511505Don't they usually do that before announcing a new gen? Which I don't think would be a good idea right now I'm just asking
>>111510346fpbp and she should phase in
Alright now that's enough retardation for one thread don't you all think?
>>111510327ENcucks we fucking LOST
cuckbeats are having a melty KEKKEK KEK
“Holoyoi” is an existing Japanese word and a very common expression.It means being slightly drunk or pleasantly tipsy.I think Cover either forgot about the project from three years ago, or they didn’t expect Mori to assert rights over something from that project.For Japanese people, if you were to come up with an alcohol-related concept for Hololive, “holoyoi” is such a common term that almost anyone could think of it within 30 minutes. It doesn’t really have creative originality.It’s even used as the name of canned chūhai alcoholic drinks.Since Mori is from an English-speaking background, she might want to claim rights to the term, but among Japanese people there has been some confusion and surprise, with reactions like:“Wait, you’re claiming rights over something anyone could come up with…?”That said, Mori is an important member of Hololive, so Cover may have needed to make her a regular guest in order to avoid hurting her pride.By the way, on 5ch there’s some confusion about Mori’s reaction, with comments like, “Are you really going to claim rights over a name that anyone could come up with?” However, 5ch users aren’t angry at Mori or dislike her.Unlike 4chan, Mori has generally been well-regarded on 5ch to begin with. The overall reaction there isn’t one of anger or hostility, but rather closer to a sense of puzzlement or unease.
>>111510411every single time
>>111514553She started out streaming even less than gura while actively shitting on idol culture
>>111512688I'm sure lui has some sort of positive feelings for her atms
>>111517757Damn she's doing a negative amount of streams?
>>111516860Vesper has a strong sense of honor and looked up to his older sister. If Cover was absolutely refusing to offer a model redesign to Kronii despite her being embarrassed by her design that could have easily triggered that huge fight with management. A lack of respect is a recurring complaint with the EN branch and it's obvious that a lot of talents think Hololive is sexist even if they can't say that directly.
>>111517321>Mori graduates and phases in so she can have sloppy lesbian sex with her pink oshi
>>111510828You niggers can't even fucking read. Lui and kobo are the guests. Not the fucking hosts
she is bigger than holoshit
>>111517526Thank you, pigeon-kun, but you have to understand that for Americans, being someone who was first to come up with something is very important. She might not have known how common such a word is, but in her eyes, management did clear theft of intellectual property.
>>111517829>>111517156
>>111510327Should have posted it publicly instead of behind membership for full effect
>>111517829more like a lack of respect for the genre and anime culture to want to e-chop off the tits of your 2d avatarthey did nothing wrong
>>111515935Ywnbj
>>111510327So is she talking about cover or umj?
>>111517790Hello newfag, year 1 gura streamed more than 80% of en does now
>>111518070Anon if you had a daughter you wouldn't want her to get some absurd boob jiggling design like Kronii. Respect is a two way street it makes sense that a lot of talents don't think Cover respects them because they treat them like garbage. That is the nasty misogynist side of the idol industry and Hololive will destroy their reputation if they keep having graduations.
