>a woman gets the free reign over her model>it all goes to shitWhy is it so common?
>hair vents in 2026
>>111547519You're supposed to start with an example, OP
Nice soulless asexual corpo sloppa.
>>111547519every time
I miss pon miko
>>111547519Both are cute
>>111547519Rin Penrose chose a more girly design than what I would have expected and she looks like a Japanese idol. Why are coomers on this board even complaining about the redesign? It might not have a booba window but isn't this a lot more feminine?
>>111548038Holobronies are currently lashing out and throwing shit at everyone. It happens every time Cover makes another fuckup.
>>111547519Her original artist abandoned her?
>>111547519the new model isn't even bad it's just painfully generic compared to the old one
>>111548038You cannot deny that her original design is iconic in its own little corner. The new model looks free to use.
>>111548038It doesn't matter which direction the redesign goes, there will always be an existing fanbase that is disappointed with the change because they became fans when the old design was used.
>>111547519Male collabing whore
>>111547519Wasn't Rin's entire thing of playing with tumblr gender shit? This is absolutely feminine, way out what she was usually doing.
>>111548140Og rin model is one of the most recognizable and best in the industry.Its the gender bending stuff that confuses people into unsubbing. General audiences dont understand the bit.That said, im happy bc a new model means shes planning on continuing to stream and I really like her brand of humor
>>111547519Why would you go from a unique looking design to generic as fuck?
>>111548038The old design is more striking and memorable, this new model design looks AI generated and indistinguishable from the 100000 chuubas who look exactly like this
>>111548038The closet homos are mad because they can't get off to girly stuff.
>>111547519Rin isn't a particularly creative person so it makes sense that the design wouldn't be interesting. She can't hold an audience and nothing she produces is particularly notable.
>>111547519when you have a model people recognize, it is best not to throw it away. alter it with new outfits, but this may as well be a new ip that is how drastic it is.people spend entire careers to try and find a look that people will remember them for and never find it.
>>111547519grimall esekai designs were great
massive downgrade holy cape canaveral, batman!
>>111547582Based
>>111547519i will sexualize the new model the same amount as the old one
>>111547519It doesn’t even look like the same person anymore
>>111547519She transitioned
>>111547519That is a downgrade
>>111547519Looks good to me.
>>111548038>coomersWhere did that come from?
>>111548038The issue is when you ahve a bunch of different outfits the brand you built gets diluted. The characters look nothing alike.
>>111547519Both of these designs are complete dogshit.
Hi Rin, now that you just confirmed you are /here/, anything you want to say about your botted redebut?
>>111547519usually a man makes and designs the first model they getwomen have no appreciation for beauty, their beauty standards are what's being projected out onto the culture with all the faggy feminized menit's a death sentence, they need their hands tied around a tree and to be fucked straight again, beat around a bit, before anything goes back to normal
>>111549395I wonder if she reads /slag/
>>111547519Should've at least kept the same color scheme for the hair and eyes. This is just unrecognizable.
>>111547519>The free reign.You never use an article with the term "free reign" like this. Its always "He has free reign", never "He has the free reign". I don't know why that's the case, but this is a rule that applies 100 percent of the time and breaking is very noticeable and sounds very wrong.
>>111547519homo
>>111548486>The old design is more striking and memorableOkay but there was some reason that Rin Penrose decided on a major redesign and I do wonder if the boyish prince character simply has trouble keeping viewers in the vtuber market. Ao had a similar handsome theme and her character was struggling even in Hololive with marketing from a large corporation. I am not saying that every vtuber has to be hyper feminine but I do think the vtuber market does reflect what they watch in anime and being too masculine would be a debuff.
why does she say hefucking faggots, the UK is a fucking a shithole
>>111547519Did Kamito sue her or something? Why the change?
>>111549779>boyish prince character simply has trouble keeping viewersthat is what attracted me to her but the problem with her viewership numbers is that she was not consistent with her streamers, awful political takes and the beef with gamersupps. her new model looks nice but it does not fit her at all and her looking like every generic space princess anime
>>111547519>design was too boyish before, so she chose to become a lot girlier>dropped the two-tone hair because Shiori kind of took that gimmick away>some sort of cute Suisei/Kanata at home idol feelingPretty based of her even though I don't see anything from her prince theme in it now.>>111547672>asexual
>>111549877She looks like this now
>>111548486>this new model design looks AI generatedI love this cope when you can't find anything bad to complain about a design. Just call it AI and everyone is forced to agree with you
>>111547519going to feel more awkward using he/him pronouns 90% for a character that's clearly very girly
Rin Penrose 2 more like Rin Penrose U
>>111549942>didn't completely change her design, just got a bit older and adopted gaming into itFinally a good redesign
>>111549996She became slightly less retarded after being a corpo, globie managers did at least some good I guess
>>111549395Rin if you are /here/ I coomed to R18 art of your design when you were in idol and there is no shame in that
>>111548038Her old one definitely stood out but this isn't bad
>>111547519why are you guys pretending both aren't awful
>>111550040too bad she quit globie right before they went under.she would have had her forever IP for free it was by far the right charatcer for her
>>111547519/thread
>>111550298women are retarded thougheverbeit
>>111550321big tits upgrade
>>111550321Did that sleepyhead cuckcage guy make anymore art of her?
>>111547519Looks like fucking shit. What was she thinking?
>>111547519Welcome Rin
>>111549996>became a veibae/lumi clone>good redesignmeh.
>>111551298Most examples of this are a girl forcing either something she genuinely (but wrongly) believes is better, or what she thinks the fans want. This one was intentionally designed to be uglier.I'm honestly not sure if that's better or worse.
>>111551298Love it or hate it, it is recognizable and you know it is girl_dm.Kinda like old Rin.
>>111551802>became a veibae/lumi clone???She looks nothing like either of them
>>111551802Lumi is a Veibae clone there is no need for the "/"nobody knows who she is compared to Vei
>>111552003there are what 2-3 veibae clones in phase connect alone
>>111547519Rin is a girl
Where's the plot twist where this is actually Rinako
>>111548038the new design just looks like every other twitch vtuber out there..even rigged like it too. Nothing about it stands out.
>>111548793>She can't hold an audience and nothing she produces is particularly notable.picrel
>>111552053John Vtuber doesn't sound like a girl's name
>>111549395Who is Snebby? Is it the snail? Is it some guy she pretends she isn't banging?
>>111550321Good. De animified for her Western comic cuck audience.
>>111547519i like it
the people who hate the model change the most are her nijisister audience, just look at this reaction'israeli colour scheme' kekaroo
>>111557447>original rin stands outThey both look like generic vtuber anime girls to me.
>>111550321Who is that? I'm actually getting obsessed over these two designsLeft model>Cute mouse>Unkept, frail, delicate>Looks almost like a doll>G11-like dormouse moeRight model>Subtle eyebags>Unkept, probably a bit smelly>More western-ish design>Half the face covered by hair, like she doesn't care to show her face as long as she can see the screen>Beauty mark makes the simpler, flatter design have more character>BIG messy older sister vibes>Less moe, replaced with the soft allure and comfort of someone who feels familiar and, well, safe, for lack of better wordsIt's no downgrade, both are perfect, even in completely different ways, she's so fucking beautiful that it hurts
>>111557597OG rin is clearly a tomboy with contrasting colours, really sells the character of 'royal tomboy who insists that she's a prince, not a princess'Nu rin has the same silver/purple/blue colourblocking that so many other vtubers have and to the extent she even remotely stands out it's because she looks like a character that pops up to give you advice in a chinese gacha game's tutorial
I had a feeling she’d go more girly after I saw the girly nail polish in her handcam. However, I also thought it would retain a tomboyish spirit because it seemed like she didn’t want to attract coomers. This is a full on idol model with a gentle quiet girl vibe. The John Vtuber jokes just aren’t gonna land the same.
>>111548109he only works with corpos. Shiki ran into the same thing after Prism ended and got new artists for her other outfits.
>>111557746>spoonfeed meheavy's voice: no!
>>111547519The only fucking reason the name "Rin Penrose" has any sort of relevancy in 2026 is down to how recognizable that model is. Changing it is career suicide because the individual behind it just isnt entertaining enough to be known for anything else outside of the model
New model has Rinako vibes
>>111557868Ugly new model
>>111548038Autistic folks hate change.
>>111547519
>>111550321Damn, go back
>>111557846Has she unironically become feminized now?
>>111549961AI as an adjective is just another word for generic, goysloppified, mass market, consumerist, etc.
>>111557847They did a model for Camila though? Unless they’re too big for indies now after Gigi. Anyway it sucks because Rin being model siblings with Gigi was really fitting.
>>111549877Jesus Christ
>>111550321It's not only that I want to have sex with the left, there's just more visual interest and cohesion.
>>111550321i actually like the one on the right
>>111557746Clauvio / ClauviCopy paste image into reverse image search on google and crop. Most times you'll get what you are looking for.Old model https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCFD0bgm4ikNew model https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Wfqd2KvlCsgAll her stuff is mostly nuked e.g. yt and twitch https://www.twitch.tv/clauvioI can remember when she had a comeback stream with the new model, she talked about mental struggles. so I just put 2 + 2 together.
>>111551939When I think girl_dm, I still think of her old model. The only reason I can recall her current one is just our sheer astonishment of how much of a downgrade it is.
>>111557746Clauvi
I hate almost all male vtuber designs but fuck man, what was he thinking
>>111558321Camilla is Mythic, she has a talent agency even if its not an actual corpo.
>>111558399Her Oni model was better then her villain one too
>>111547519This is probably the worst one
>>111558461Made me spit out my drink my desk. What the fuck is this cursed shit?
>>111558497It still hurts
>>111558526>>111558551fuck
>>111558526>>111558551What the fuckWomen for how much they go on and on about interior design, fashion, makeup, styling, etc, should not ever be allowed the final say in their own vtuber design
>>111558551Holy fuck that's insane
>>111558378No you don't, you THINK you do because the right one looks like an achievable goal. It's not a superior design objectively
>>111558526Fuck it, still would.
>>111558461the model that killed a thousand fujos
>>111549942Looks like a decent upgr->paws
>>111547519Don’t worry guys he’s back to normal now
>>111547519Who?
>>111559167i still prefer the old model but those slight tweaks would massively elevate the new model
>>111548038Her old design was hidden feminine moe. Its just not the same when the design is already feminine.
saddest downgrade
>>111559933Not when she freed herself from corpo bullshit
>>111559741I hope sunsetskyline continues drawing her og model
>>111547519>Rin trooned outFuck this gay Earth
>>111556505It's the snail plush on her head.
>>111558461
>>111559167Unironically way better
>>111548038it's uglyand I will always be against complete redesigns. your vtuber model and design isn't a cosplay outfit you can change when you get sick of it
>>111547519Elia Stellaria: from cute to crackwhore
>>111547519I feel like her original design with longer hair styled differently, some make-up, and more feminine clothes that keep the same color scheme would have allowed her to keep brand recognition while also giving her the girlier cuter look she probably wanted.
>>111559167>her smile and optimism: gone
>>111547519For the first time since her debut, I do not want to have sex with rin penrose
>>111559974I hope so too
>>111547519Do not redeem the card.
for me, its rin penrose+ male swimwear challenge
>>111547519this is just mornye
>>111561263she is a crackwhore so it's fitting
>>111550321Right looks way better. Love the frog eye; it reminds me of Tsuyu which can only be a good thing. Also, kemonomimi are played out and I can't really get excited over those kinds of designs anymore, even if the left does look like a discount Botan.
>>111559933I actually like Roa's design better.
>>111559933I think both of these suck.
>>111558461This.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VILgSsesD0He was thinking this.
>>111557991And Rin is the biggest autist on the fucking planet.
>>111550321I prefer the original, but both are fine.The eyes on the right aren't my favourite style of eye though, not a fan of those.
>>111561263That new design is genuinely uglyHer old design felt soft and comfyThew new design feels harsh and giga-bitch lookingIt's like yellow womans change from her old to new model, same reasons.But at least yellow womans newer model looks good and mostly matches her old designs features, the only major difference visual-style wise was the harsher eyes which I'm not a big fan of.
>>111558497The face tracking and animation on that model was the most memorable thing about girl_dm to me. Her newer models don't stand out as much.
>>111561263>ClusellerI remember they designed their own model. Probably never used it.
>>111563082Maple from Glitch Stars is the most recent victim of cluseller I know of. As usual, eyes completely ruined.
>>111563496Maple should have gone all in on her pixelart models, I know she's proud of her own rigs but they have so much personality
>>111563726 (me)Sidenote, I always assumed she was fat from her deep voice but turns out she's your average SEAcadian twig. That's so fucking hot.
>>111561263its not even that new is bad, but it's so wildly different in key areas that they basically not even look like the same person
>>111563082Rape
>>111548038I didnt care for Rin but her old model was hot and I would fuck it while the new one I wouldnt.
>>111563811>but turns out she's your average SEAcadian twigwith a deep voice and hyper autism for Kaizo Ironmon
>>111558675they're not even the right type of paws, she's supposed to be a panda
>>111558526>Yes, I'm a democratic socialist. How did you know?
>>111562428Unfortunately, she has the gender autism and not the train autism, so she does shit like this instead of anything that people actually want to watch.
>>111547519was rin a tranny all along?
>>111559974He rarely draws her anymore anyway, he never really got over feeling guilty over drawing lewds of her after her little asexual tirade.
>>111547519I hate her but this is objectively a better model than what she had. her troon grift paid off
>>111547519this is an upgrade desu
>>111547519Spiritually israeli design. You can take her out of the jew corpo but you can't take the jew corpo out of her.
>>111566892From smug to dokiclone
>>111547519it's a fine design and outfit, but it doesn't look like the same character at all
>>111547519How can she would be able to attract the clip watcher audiene with that model?
>>111547519Lemme guess, she finally got over her twitter-induced gender phase?
>>111566933its a better model but the problem is, it doesn't fit her personality. She's too masculine in terms of voice and personality
>>111547519It's the exact inverse of Doki who went from a generic girly model to a unique one that actually suited her persona and personality. Yet wellcursers shit on that too. Make it make sense.
>>111567540Rin is super feminized now. She might become my most watched indie.
>>111567650She kept calling herself "he" that stream. It's really funny that she is doubling down on the enby stuff while getting a more explicitly feminine model.
>>111567540Rin isn't remotely masculine. She's just a coddled autismo that's scared to grow up and terrified of womanhood. Thats what all the asexual/gender stuff is about with her.
>>111559974he hinted he might but he lost interest
>>111567641Old = goodNew = badIt's a kneejerk reaction most of time, sometimes used to shitpost by people who don't even watch that VTuber anyway
>>111558461It was already bad with how it looked, made even worse when it was revealed that he fucking asked to have the chin pubes added in.
>>111567891>Old = good>New = badits not. there are plenty examples of New = much better
>>111568046I'm not agreeing to that, I'm just saying that that's the mindset behind this kind of reaction every time a VTuber updates or changes their model. Most of the times, at least: there are some genuinely bad redesigns, but nowhere near as many as /vt/ claims
>>111550321>>111558393she's also completely disappeared again. 2+ months since her last stream.
>>111550321Both are cute, is she an EN indie?
>>111568107>every timeliterally un ture.people like an update if they like an update, which happens a lot of the time. what you are saying is the customer is always wrong and is out of touch with the product they like.people like what they like they are the customer; if cracker barrell changes their logo and the customer says it is shit and are vocal on it, then who is in the right? or is a sports team changes to a bad logo and people reject it, there is a reason for it.
>>111561263New fits her real evil whore personality better
>>111566892Left is better
>>111550321this looks like shit"erm my model is literally just me" english vtubing was a mistake
>>111559933Roa is a cuter design and let's be honest that Shion was a level of pedobait design that was extremely sleazy even for Hololive. It's noticeable that Cover never went that far with their newer loli designs and it's obvious that it was an embarrassing design that was somewhat controversial even in Japan. Considering that girl_dm almost quit because of the sexual comments she was getting it's easy to imagine how bad the situation must have been with Shion.>>111561219>and I will always be against complete redesigns. your vtuber model and design isn't a cosplay outfitA vtuber wants a Live2D model that will attract viewers but they also want something that they like so choosing a vtuber design will always be a balancing act. Fans often do get attached to a specific design but it's the content and personality that is the soul of a vtuber. There is also short term backlash for every vtuber redesign due to emotional attachment and nostalgia.
>>111567520more solidified it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OQx3tLXWXA
>>111547519Rin Vtuber Penrose addresses 'The Controversy'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OQx3tLXWXA
>>111571180>the new model is not female or maletell that to the person you hired to draw it
>>111550369qrd?
>>111547519I agree I watched her briefly her Tomboy appeal was better
>>111567774I could fix her
>>111568252she joined Mythic and was booted for inactivity
>>111547519It's because a lot of these girls are posers and have no actual taste in anime
>>111571182>I wanted to prove you don't need a generic feminine design to succeed in corporate VTubing>Now that I'm an indie, I need a generic feminine design to succeed Also, Jesus Christ, slow down.
>>111570443outfitschizo? what are you doing here?
The video made sense as dumb as this model change was , i also didnt realise that many people exclusively watched her shorts even though thats exactly how i found her. But dear god that proving a point shit was bad. Most people pushed through her quirk chungus humour because of her design and interaction not sure wtf shes gonna do now.
only vtweeters with 3 fans praised the new model are they trying to drag her down
>>111558637You spend too long in /lig/ if you think that
>>111570443>Roa is a cuter designGenuinely, are you a woman?
>>111570443How do you cope with kroniis retweets outfitschizo?
>still refers to themselves as a 'he'>rebranded to a much girlier modelClearly this means Nu-Rin has a cute little cock and I'll give Rin a reacharound as I pound that they/themussy
>>111549942This is all she had to do years ago.
>>111567942I will never understand why the hell male vtubers think pube beards look good, and I will never understand why the model artists draw them.Good beards do exist in anime (pic releated), so it's not like this is uncharted territory. It should be a no brainer to just copy how anime does it.
>>111547519I think the model looks good.
>>111562111I remember calling her wannabe Botan in her chat and she read my message out loud and didn't ban me. Maybe I'm the reason she changed her design.
>>111548038>she
>>111558526What the fuck. Did they change TO this?
>>111575708Yes https://www.twitch.tv/sigridandbird
Boy am I glad I oshid Juna and not her.
>>111576065seat 5 next to Junny ofc
>>111575708I'd say that beaver girl model is still worse
>>111549779>Ao had a similar handsome theme and her character was struggling even in Hololive with marketing from a large corporationBecause Hololive has a larger capita of unicorns per chuuba and thus the presence of a boyish looking chuuba compulsively flirting with their oshi meant it would inevitably generate a significant amount of blacklash towards that chuuba in return?
>>111571180>"You can say the new one is cliché. But perhaps the old one is too"Yeah no. That is solid deflaction right there
>>111579980deflection*
>>111571180>>111571182this is probably the best way she could've addressed the issuebasically:>she couldn't work with her old model mama because nihongo jouzu and corpo autism>eventually wanted a big rebrand because her old model was rushed and she didn't get everything she wanted>she gets that people don't like the change and says she's not immune to criticism just because she spent money on a new model>but she would like it if other people like it and maybe you'll get used to it if you don't>original model art was motivated by the idea that corpo vtubers can succeed without being titty monsters or lolibait, but that doesn't apply any more
>>111547519Giving people not versed in a field free reign to tell a person versed in a field to design something exactly like they want with no pushback results in disasters
I don't careI want to fuck Rin pregnant and give her a gender identity crisis.probably the hottest vtuber
Wait, Rin didn't pay to keep that model? What's the point of paying for it if you gonna to discard it that fast?
>>111580179>her old model was rushed and she didn't get everything she wantedI mean there is changes and features that didn't get make it onto the current model.But then there is making a completely making a whole new character with so little connection to the og that it might be a new vtuber all together.
>>111547519Cool (not really) 4th (technically 6th) iteration of this woman (not including the original splatoon png or the failed idol vsinger project avatar) to appear in the past 5 years. At least she finally kept the name/channel, but then again her current identity is too big now to get rid of that.
examples of models that were considered upgrades?
>>111547519>>111580179>>111580642Crelly is probably the best example of having wild changes. Where she makes a whole new character, but core recognisable elements still make it through.I quite like the 2nd model myself, but it didn't fit her personality. The 3rd one on the other hand. It is iconic and just feels right. She also pilots it very well.
>>111547519I remember when he had a melty and dedicated an entire 2 stream to rules.
Anything animal based is soulless to me at this point
>>111580812
>>111580264Based Rincel
>>111580179>original model art was motivated by the idea that corpo vtubers can succeed without being titty monsters or lolibait>but that doesn't apply any moreA corpo is guaranteed to have a baseline audience no matter what the model looks like as long as it’s even just slightly feminine. Drifting out of the norm as an indie when everyone wants a generic e-girl? She’s just conforming to new standards. A reverse girl dm.
rinmega alpha
>>111548076qrd on the melty
>>111580976i still think it's a good design, i blame the downright horrendous rigging that plagued most of EN
>>111547519I don't know about the other anons, but the right looks more approachable than the left, because the left somehow urges me to punch her face, like she has a punchable face. Maybe the right will be changed if I watch her contents.
>>111576065Hell yeah.
>>111582407Someone has to design a character with this aura level sometime.This is one of the strongest visuals in vtubing
>>111572274I don't visit that schizo den
>>111580812Yeah my wife
>>111549758Well actually the term is "free rein"
>>111570443rare moment of outfitschizo making a good point
>>111584056new model is too fatnot a big fan of Meimi's ever increasing boobs either, but it's not too atrocious yet
>>111580595>that fastHasn’t she been indie for ages at this point?Idol blew up years ago
>>111580595No she didn't pay for it. That deal was that anyone that left idol corp when Brave took over was allowed to keep their model but they had to give Brave a 50% cut for a year after leaving (which is already over).
>>111563082this the kind of good shit i want to see in that crack circus new nijisanji wave
>>111581051Nah Grimmis old model had soul, she only changed it because people were calling her a pedo. Doesn't help that her content took a nosedive after too
>>111580812Huge upgrade
>>111547519This is the only flaw with the model. It looks really out of place (especially in motion) and is layered underneath the rest of her hair when it seems like it should be behind it all. I do prefer the old one. But there'd be nothing wrong with the new one if not for these.
>>111588766Incredibly shit taste.
This means I can sexualise the old model with abandon without ANY shame because it's just a soulless puppet nowSEX WITH RIN USING HER VAGINA
>>111581051Yeah I agree with this list. I'd put one of Numi's models on here too compared with her 1.0, but she's since downgraded herself so I don't think it counts.
>>111586045Yeah it looks good on an updated model
>>111590111Yeah bro. I even love her alternative outfit that she had made with the 2.5 update
Ngl, I have no problem with it besides the colours. The new model's colours seem very generic and don't stand out (unlike the old one) since it's honestly one of the most popular vtuber colour schemes. Someone swapped the old colours to the new model in this thread and it looks so much better imo
>>111547519is he/him the real pronoun for rin?
>>111547519>>111548038Nah I like it more. I get it the last design was more icon but this one is still pretty good. Once again like with Saba there are too many people getting mad when they don't watch her.
>>111580179>original model art was motivated by the idea that corpo vtubers can succeed without being titty monsters or lolibaitSo... she actually succeeded? Because she always looked like "that weird Vtuber that randomly appeared in YouTube Shorts"
>>111558461That looks like he was desperate to reclaim some masculinity but the artist had no idea how to draw that kind of thing.
>>111590485
>>111590007if I wanted to look at fatties I could just open facebook or go outside lmao
>>111580812Hard to call it an upgrade per se because the hero was also great but it was still high quality despite radical design changesand then she killed it
I will never forgive the events that led her from this to the overdesigned abomination that she is now
>>111547519Left is iconic and has particular sentimental value also it represented her gender from what I understandnow it's just another buruaka style vtuber modelit's not bad just has zero relation with the person or her audiencehonestly she could have gone the gradual change route if she wanted this idol/gacha cosmic princes vibeor she could have gone tomboy with a small feminine notes here and thereI think this change is too much and it clashes with peoples image off what kind of vtuber she is
Clauvio
>>111591314Or look in a mirror
>>111590485>Selen Dokiimho they both are good at representing her competitive spirit, unless you are a boob enjoyer there was no real loss>Nina Mata personally I prefer her fox model, since I'm not into bugs, but I can say both are good in their own way>male>Vivi Moguthis is very hard since her old model is peak, however her current one isn't bad, just the previous one is too good>Pomu Mintimho both models are good it's just a shame that the previous one is left with a black company>Kunai Sunnyidk how to say it butt her Niji model was shit, her current model is far superior>male>male>Zaion Sayupretty equivalent, not much to say>Twisty who? doesn't she have a different model>male>male
>>111581051>Nasaher old model is cute her new one is good as well and has better rigging, if she feels better driving the new one I see no issue Nasa cute so everything is forgiven>LiaHer old design wasn't bad, but her current one is much better>Mintboth are good the old one has worse rigging but both are good and suite her well>Camilaimho new model is much better, old one is just thirst trap nothing more>Neurocan you call it evolution if her new design is specifically made to avoid copyright issues and make her a truly her model, rather then free asset anyone can use>GrimmyI think her new model is more fleshed out and has more detail, the fact that she had to specifically make her model to have boobs to appease the anti crowd is an issue of western audiencethe fact that some people think that only children can have flat chest is ridicculous
>>111547519I love when females wanna troon out but still have all the benefits of appearing female. Fucking retard whore.
>>111580872OG Crelly was dorky and had soul. She sold it all for the big reactslop bucks. Never trust a fucking cowtuber to have integrity. They will always disappoint you
>>111558603Aren't most prominent>fashion designers>make-up artists>personal stylistsmen too?
>>111547519WAIT THE FUCKShe changed that model?I barely know her name and I still recognize that model among the sea of EN chuuba because it was actually unique
>>111591561>nowShe went full retard even before she left VOMS.
>>111593715As far as fashion people yes it's men dominated. You got Christian dior, georgio armani, ralph lauren, gianai versace, christobel balenciaga, Calvin Klein, etc.
>>111547519Both suck
>>111547519GET THIS WOKE CRINGE BITCH OFF THE STAGE
>>111547519>himAs someone who doesn't watch this chuuba: that's new to me
>>111593561Man I miss this rosie design. The new one just so busy.
>>111580179>>original model art was motivated by the idea that corpo vtubers can succeed without being titty monsters or lolibaitWhile I think that's an exaggeration a lot of corpo vtubers do fall into the category of either cute loli or boob jiggling coombait. I get why Rin wanted something different but the redesign does imply that boyish prince is too niche for the EN market. If she had confidence in that type of design than she would have done an update to the original model instead of going with a more feminine idol design. The big issue with niche vtuber designs is they might get Reddit updoots and Twitter likes but that is worthless if fans aren't buying merch. A vtuber needs a design that looks good enough that fans would buy anime figures of that design.
>>111594828> instead of going with a more feminine idol desigis Rin gonna actually do idol stuff?even if she does, I think the old model leant itself to being viewed favorably in a concert. There was a Michael Jackson quality to it that I think would have stood out on stage especially as a solo act.Some vtuber models look preposterous when they do the idol thing because the design is a gimmick, where as others have models that default are ready for the stage and they will stand out.
>>111593475Should compare 2.0 to 3.0 base
>>111558603just look at Saba.
>>111594138>>111593842
>>111561263>>111593475whorses
>>111547519Both are bad
>>111591556>works together with friends and fans, a highly supportive artist and all her accumulated rigging skills to workshop a model she claims she's finally happy with and everyone says suits her best>trashes it less than a year later for corposlopI'm still so fucking mad.
>>111595549nitty wanted to achieve things on her own and expierence things and not have her career peak be "you are one of the girls that is friends with shondo"
>>111595640>on her owna corpo is literally the opposite of that. now she's "one of the girls in pippa's company" or "one of the girls in sakana's sad girl harem".hell, she got more traction from being neuro's rigger, not from being friends with shondo. not that I expected a real response from someone who instantly starts seething about shondo unprompted.
>>111595730You just wouldn't get it, anon.Most people want to be wanted and a lot want to be a part of something and working towards something.Staying as kitanya and doing what you always did with the Barbies and not venturing out on your own is tantamount to being that guy who decided not to move away for college and instead stayed at home and commuted and never got to experience new things they always wanted to experience. There is adventure out there
>>111595730>noooo you have to stay as shondo's lackey and be the rigging slave for other more popular vtubers!>you are not allowed to want something for yourself and go down a different path!
>>111595862I'm starting to think this isn't about tanya at all. I can't help you with that.
>>111596028she's still doing the exact same stuff as before right down to being a rigging slave for her genmates and a waiting room for her more popular coworkers, just with an uglier model and while selling some overpriced plastic garbage and meme coffee. sometimes she sings two heavily auto-tuned lines in a group cover I guess.
>>111596029Just trying to help you understand instead of cope with why kitanya left it all behind. You literally wrote "I'm still so fucking mad"Some vtubers want something else out of it, and they should go get it if they can.>>111596133Phase Connect is her team. Why is doing stuff for her team a bad thing? Right now she is helping work on a convention dedicated to the group she is in, something that has never been done in the west by a vtuber agency.
>>111558551Holy shit I almost forgot about these.
Kanna Yanagi remains the unquestioned queen of the model downgrade. And I would argue her Duck detective OG look was a downgrade from her original sex Tiger model when she was in that other dead corpo I can't remember the name of.
>>111581051>true>lia's personality fit her new model the most>mint was due for a touch up. I prefer her otaku outfit>camila is just less sexo, both models are pretty generic>fair>it's just a more rendered art style, it comes to personal preference
>>111597806vreverie? she wasn't able to acquire that IP, unlike Breastie
>>111593475This looks like the childhood friend tomboy you married and became the mother of your children.
>>111598575too bad she's a literal glowie
>>111547519why do women become flashbangs? it kills the viewing experience
>>111593715Male nurses get fast tracked to the top as well. The biggest threat to women’s success is other women (when they’re not self sabotaging)
>>111547519J
Remember /vt/. Trans Rights ARE Human Rights. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about trans people (knowing the site we are on, you probably hate them with a burning passion)
>>111590485Twisty, Kyo and Vivi are the only unequivocal downgrades here. Hex and whatever his new Gaelic garble is called are awful in different ways.
>>111599742>HexAre you talking about Fulgur? Hex is the fourth from the top on the left, and as much as I dislike the guy his new model is good
>>111599713There is no such thing as "trans rights"
>>111590485>DokiA sidegrade at worst. I miss the boobs, but the model as a whole is just as good as Selen's one, and over time I even came to prefer it>KuroUpgrade>MintUpgrade>KyrioUpgrade>SayuZaion was really good, but Sayu is not really a downgrade>FulgurPic related>MataraNina is really hard to beat>MoguLikewise>SunnyThe queen outfit in the image is probably her weakest one, but the base model and the punk outfit are good and arguably better than Kunai>KyoDowngrade>TwistyTwisty is really hard to beat>U-sanUpgrade
>>111547519Gura into bijou was a massive downgrade
>>111600034Seconded. Well said
>>111590485Fulgur had 3 better looking anime style versions for his castlevania model but went with the ugly western slop on the left
>>111600034>I miss the boobs
>>111600591I miss the permanent boobs
>It's just Gura with better rigging
>>111590485I don't like how babyfaced Matara is, doesn't even match the body on the model.
someone post nene
>>111600642Hated how half-assed the concept was. She could have commited to being a fox or committed to being a fish again, instead we got a nonsense hybrid because she wanted to branch out from Gura but also wanted to squeeze every drop of her Gura fame.
>>111590485>DokiMore of a sidegrade, besides her goth outfit from earlier this year, that one is really fucking cute.>MataMata is great, I love the Warhammer outfits, but fuck Nina was immaculate.>MoguSidegrade, Vivi was amazing, but Mogu feels cuter so less of a downgrade.>MintoWas a dowgrade, but she grew on me a lot, all the butt stuff helped out.>SunnyStraight upgrade nothing more to say.>SayuLosing Zaion hurt a lot, she was hot as fuck. redebut is great, NOA was a mistake and her current one is a good mix between redebut and Zaion so it's an upgrade.>DeluluMeh, twisty was better.>Bonus: MarieGood design, but I liked Reimu's bag eyes a lot more. Also Reimu back>GuysUh... Kuro is good, Hex looks boring, Kyo somehow got worse from the insecure buff up he got. Cu is an upgrade when he goes full Castlevania edge, the other fits make him look like shit. Don't watch U-san, but looks great
>>111548038She was originally in a certain company and those people believe in Rebis/Adam Kadmon, aka creating a perfect androgynous being. So Rin Penrose is moving away from their Luciferian plans.
>>111600881You got a problem with my wife?!
>>111589977>the only flaw with the modelIs not. If anything It's a good proposal, that area of the hair is rarely touched, but they could have done better.
>>111597806Yep, just can’t vibe with the new model. I think she’s nice still, but is been a constant decline. Joining a mailing list corpo does nothing for her. She was better when she didn’t quit her real job.
>>111593561Didn't even know that model existed. The face would match the voice, but I would change the outfit
