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Take the indie pill bros
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Who?
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envy is an ugly character trait
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>>111563558
This is exactly what Hololive looks for to know who NOT to hire. Why can't indies just be nice and stay in their lane?
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>>111563558
The best thing about Saba is that you can now use her to shit on indiefags crying about Holo merch
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>>111563558
>GIVE ME MONEY I'M INDIE
Corpo talents have corpos taking a significant cut of their earnings so they need support more than indies do. So I'll continue supporting my corpo oshi. Shan't be giving this entitled indie bitch a dime.
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>>111563558
ew male collab whore
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>>111563558
the most sane shondofag
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>>111563558
>genuinely seething
wonder how many times this bitch applied and was told no kek
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>>111563558
Sour grapes
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>>111563558
I know this whore is here, maybe even made this thread. So just know this, whore. You will forever be a floundering two view nobody whether Hololive lives forever or shuts down within the next year.
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>>111563694
A lot of indies do, it's mainly a loud minority of shitty 2-view Twitter keyboard warriors who spoil the pot.
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As a trans woman of color (brown) how does supporting indies affect me?
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>>111563956
Yeah I see tons of them show up after that UK bullshit
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>>111563950
>two view nobody
You gave her too much credit, she is a full time vtweeter now.
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This reads to me trying hard to turn people against indie, what a dumb bitter bitch, I’ll support whoever deserves my support, thank you very much.
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>>111563558
They’re right, but said it in the absolute worst way possible
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>take the indie pill bros
>The indie pill
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>>111563558
Actually mindbroken
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>>111564246
Nijisanji is barely mentioned here nowadays. It’s just ligs, phase and hololive
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>>111563558
>fails the vibe check
>selfposts on vt
everytime lol
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>>111563558
I don't like her but she isn't wrong.
Merch is overpriced
Knowing friends to be hired is standard at this point.
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One of the best and most successful gens in Hololive (Gamers) is full of nepo hires. Just don't let EN nepo hire anyone.
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>>111563710
Looking at Weather Planet's fan club price, it made me feel like one of the reasom they went this way is original corporation they belong to wouldn't allow this sort of marketing scheme. Although with the way they interact with their fans being much more focused on dedication even when under corpo, I guess this way fit them better
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>>111563694
Piwwo cute
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>>111563558
I think she's about 95% right. Some of them actually are really talented (Mori, Kiara, Bae and ERB immediately leap to mind, although there's plenty of others). I don't know how much nepotism played a role in their hiring, but they're all extremely good at what they do.
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>>111563982
>As a trans woman of color (brown) how does supporting indies affect me?
If you're telling the truth, the odds are good that you're an indie.
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>>111563722
>Corpo talents have corpos taking a significant cut of their earnings so they need support more than indies do. So I'll continue supporting my corpo oshi. Shan't be giving this entitled indie bitch a dime.
Corpo chuubas signed the contract. They knew what they were doing. I wish many of them luck in getting out and going indie, and I'll even support a few of them personally when they do. But they wanted the resources that the corpo was bringing to the table, so I'm not going to cry for them, either.
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>>111563950
I would like it if Hololive shus down, even though it would mean that we no longer have a containment zone for shitheads like you.
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>>111563558
peak sour grapes
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>>111563558
>vtweeter
>former twitch whore
Why the fuck should anyone care about this waste of oxygen?
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>>111563558
Holo and Phase has plenty of vtubers whos first time being a vtuber is their corpo persona
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>>111564830
Maybe don't start fights for no reason if you don't want to get hit back? Whore.
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>>111563558
Support an indie that will actually respect her viewers, doesn't play secret clubs, doesnt play favorites too much and doesn't scam her viewers, now you are down to like 1.5 chuubas
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>>111563558
i'll never support anyone who tries manipulating me into supporting them lol
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>A LOT OF THEM ARE NEPO HIRES
Do these retards understand how the real world works? Networking is as important as qualifications for most jobs, they'd have no problem if they were the one who got picked
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>>111563558
no
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yeah there are good indies out there but this butthurt bitch ain't one of them
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>>111565082
lol I'm not the tweeter, but proceed as if I am if that tickles your underdeveloped pickle.
>>111564891
She's right, corpodrone.
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>the corpo talents were once indies
yeah thats why I liked them
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>>111565938
funny that sounds just like what a seething 2 view would say
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>>111563956
Nah, some of the bigger indies like Bao, Smugalana and Buffpup are always shitting on corpos. I've seen indies go out of their way to edit out or skip over react content of Phase and Holo chuubas.
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>>111566104
Going out of one's way to shit on corpos does seem kind of petty. Either ignore them entirely or put some actual skin in the game and start advocating for communism.
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>>111565543
kek she's definitely one of the people /here/ seething about how sana was a wasted slot
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>>111563558
holy retarded seethe, why does she think anyone will ever watch her after this?
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>>111566104
that lucypyre girl is always shit talking hololive, its strange
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>>111563558
you can tell this retard posts /here/ regularly
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>>111563558
Funny because when my corpo oshi was indie she never made seething tweets about corpos. Quite the opposite, she was supporting them and helping spread the word to western fans since way back in the day.
If she did she would never have made it in and would not receive my support, I don't support people like that.
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>>111566104
Bao has very good friends in holo and phase
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buy an ad
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>>111566776
>Bao has very good friends in holo
literally who
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>>111563558
>with cheap merch forced down your throat quarterly
Yeah I can watch twitch indies with cheap merch/subathons/donothons/birthdayathons/twitchanniversaryathons/newmodelathons/emergencymoneyathons monthly instead.

Maybe chat will get to decide a xitter pfp for a week. Exciting stuff.
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>>111563558
nah
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>>111564246
It's the ones that primarily stream on twitch that aren't authentic vtubers. It's an important difference.
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>>111563558
https://x.com/EroHarumeiji/status/1757638190540730648
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>>111567080
grim
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>>111563694
Yeah, people like this is the last I would want to watch.
If envy and hate is the first things you go to in order to raise yourself up, I'd rather not interact with you at all.
It's why I avoided Shiori for example because she acted really shitty during Moe, especially to her chat way back when people were bringing up the joke that she was Project Melody, which she even joked about herself, but then she did an instant 180 and started banning people.
No "Right can we stay on topic now though?", no, just instant ban for some random fucker for pretty much repeating the same joke.
The irony that I was checking her out for the first time to see what she was like and see that shit in the first week of watching her.
"Oh yeah Moe is pretty chill", is she fuck, fuck you anonymous whoever said that.
>>111564238
kek, holy fuck.
I mean some clippers ARE like that, some of them are genuine stalkers (see that weirdo creep Matsuri clipper from years back, forgot his name, L-somethin)
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>>111565938
>lol I'm not the tweeter
Uhhuh.
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>>111563558
I would rather be in a micro corpo than a girl like this. Even they have more going on in their careers than a vtweeter who is not good enough to pass an audition
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>>111563558
>they aren't some golden people hand raised and selected
Gura was literally created in a lab
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>>111563558
unless you are the tip top, the whole indie mindset is a disease of make believe. in an age of kickstarter and donothons to fund your own shit and you can attend minor league vtuber conventions so everybody can feel like they are making it, what is lost is that the good vtubers in an agency are good enough to get those expierences provided for thme and better.

Like, it is the difference between self publishing an E-book vs. you can go into Barnes and Noble and buy a book that was produced by a publisher. Or the difference between doing a 3D live on your own channel or Offkai because you insist vs. doing a 3D live at AX or Anime NYC where you have to be a literal invited guest to be there they dont just let anybody in as a guest.
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>>111566585
I checked her Twitch, she hasn't streamed at all in 10 months
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>>111566104
>smugalana
No way a reactslopper is getting uppity.
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>>111566813
mori and kiara
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>>111568234
>very good friends
they are barely acquaintances
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>>111563694
Wow, Hololive doesn't hire people who hate corpos and have no interest in joining them? They are truly recruitment geniuses!
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>>111563558
She's not wrong desu
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>>111568405
>have no interest in joining them
>>111564891
No she has great interest in joining them, she's just seething because she couldn't get in
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>>111566858
true lol, that's one thing I like about corpos, no ****thon into vacation shit
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>>111570562
Although what am I saying, only big two don't do that, every other small corpo does donothons all the time I feel like
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I think we are just in the growing pains of vtubing in general. Weak corpos will fold, big corpos will streamline and adjust, and indies will come and go. Fans will have to adjust their expectations and even split up between modern and traditional tubers. I think it will all even out later on.
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>>111570626
>livers
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>>111563558
TRVTHNVKE
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>>111563558
how many corpos did she audition for and never get a callback?
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>>111563558
Eh, woman moment. They can't stop telling you how much better their or their friends' business is. It happens on all sides.
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>>111563558
wow an unironic sister willing to put a face to her name instead of exclusively threadshitting on the catalog
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>>111563558
I see no lies being told in that post just truth
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The best vtubers are the ones who are just open about shit. Like if someone openly said they were racist I would follow them immediately.
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>Making plans and projects to entertain my fans or
>getting super jealous of the VTuber company just for the sake of it?
That's why they stay at 1view, wasting their time on trivialities. It's not like the fall of a VTuber company is going to give you more viewers. It doesn't happen with the other companies that fall day by day, nor with Nijisanji. What makes them think that's going to happen if Hololive falls? Holy retard indie take
You deserve to stay as a 1view vtuber Harumei
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I hope one of the many corpos I'm sure she's applied to check the archive for a background drama check and see people talking about Harumei @Harumeiji
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>>111570853
We're not in growing pains of vtubing I think we're in contracting pains.
The industry is gonna be around for a long time but I don't think we're in the growth phase of a cycle. Weak industry incumbents are being shaken out (the small corpo landscape is a graveyard) and the indie ecosystem is way oversubscribed. a lot of these girls are seething that there's no free money for Random Vtuber #85,352
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>>111564289
there's /lazu+/, apg, and the occasional scarle post but that's about it yeah
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>>111563558
ik its just text but i can almost hear the jealousy and envy in her words especially the middle section

holo supremacy!!!
may they get rid of the rest of the homocollabers
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>>111563558
The absolute state of indie 2views
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>>111564246
Mindbroke sister. Probably a homofan.
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>>111568234
you didn't even name her one actual friend in holo
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>>111566642
Envy.
>>111568131
Alana's commie heart hates all types of corpos and constantly shit talks any vtuber company if there's even a hint of drama. Meanwhile she is profiting off capitalist corporate behemoths called Amazon and Google.
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>>111566642
nitromelting because Hololive didn't give her a job
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>>111563558
>Vindicated that hololive is confirmed a golden cage
What did Hololive do this time? Also, I'll support indies when they make a good TCG that doesn't feel like it'll die within a month.
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>>111581456
Kek, shes so bitter
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>>111564015
Maybe Calli went on hiatus to work on "Off With Their Heads 2"
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>>111581456
>>111582919
Lucy got to the final round for Hololive but ultimately didn't get in because they instead decided to debut Tempus. You got males where half of them graduated instead of cute girls. Not to mention everyone else that has graduated since then.
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>>111583298
Proof?
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>>111583559
Watching streams. June 29, 2022 is when she was notified that they wouldn't be moving forward with her. July 18, 2022 is when Tempus was announced.
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>>111583298
If true, In an alternate universe instead homos Lucy could've been part of advent holding the extra months. She might've even been that worlds current version of shiori, or nerissa. What a strange timeline.
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>>111583668
Why does she shit talk the girls instead of stars then? even weirder
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>>111583859
She can, but nobody not even lucy gives a fuck about stars.
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>>111583859
>Why does she shit talk the girls instead of stars then?
She doesn't. You took award show bants too seriously. She started vtubing because of Mori and loves Marine.
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>>111563558
>"they aren't some golden people hand raised and selected because they're more special than some regular indie trash lmao"
But they are. A vast majority of indies are boring as fuck and have absolutely nothing to offer. If they were worth watching they wouldn't all be following the same formula of
Hypersexualized model
Slutty toggles
Sexualized sound donations(I'm so fucking tired of hearing "Bustin'")
Parasocialism
Zero effort content like reaction streams
Hornyposting on twitter
Paywalled sexualized content

Etc. Even the biggest indies can't break out of that trend because they're all boring as fuck and completely incapable of standing on their own without pandering to the almighty penis. Who the fuck is this obnoxious bitch?
>checks twitter
>sexualized banner
>sexy succubus character with cleavage "womb" tattoo, short skirt and thigh-highs
>has the audacity to pretend that the tattoo is there for lore reasons and she's not actually just copying the success of others like Shylily(who is also a vapid whore)
>barely seems to stream and what few vods I can see are popular shit nobody except children actually cares about like fucking Fortnite or shit most people got tired of years ago like Apex
Of fucking course. Shut your fucking mouth you vapid, talentless whore. Improve yourself instead of bitching that you're not good enough to get put on a platform.
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>>111563558
No



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