https://x.com/fsp_english/status/2051497747837313174 Thank you for your continued support of FIRST STAGE PRODUCTION EN.We would like to clarify that while FIRST STAGE PRODUCTION JP will be closing, FIRST STAGE PRODUCTION EN will continue its operations without interruption.For more details, please refer to the full announcement below.
>>111609216[nigga voice]WHO? [/nigga voice]
>>111609216I only ever wachted Nilim, does she get to keep the model or is it owari?
>>111609216Unfortunate. I would've liked to see EN sink too. Maybe next year, I guess.
>>111609216>First StarsEN is safe, now FSP EN why are japanese men so lazy?
>>111609527https://x.com/LidiaVtuber/status/2051506939020861659Being transfered it seems
>>111609216The EN faggots barely crack 100-200 viewers how much longer can they stay afloat?
>>111609587Glad at least they're savaging Sorabin. Sad about the onahole (if Niji makes a new mascot hopefully she gets the part). Tetra was pretty efficient so she'll reincarnate somewhere. Marina as well. Himeya will probably do some ASMR elsewhere. Didn't really watch Bomber and Taiga. Good luck to the 9 people left in the company...
>>111609773They can get 4-views in special events and almost get 5-views with debuts. If they can get their tourists to stick around long enough they'll be there for the long haul.
>>111609773Depends on how much they make and what their upkeep cost is. 100-200 viewers can be sufficient if they are all paypigs
>>111609817You make one mistake how many pay pigs do they lose? A new gen comes out and some move on to those instead? A new company releases a wave and they move their? It all just seems too volatile just look at JP do you think there was no whales there?
>>111609842JP Male market for VTubing is mostly locked down by Niji so there isn't much room for anyone else EN Male market for VTubing is still mostly unexplored (or partially explored if you count StarsEN and NijiEN's SEA fans)
>>111609809That makes it worse because and they were on the low end of both spectrums of 4view and 5view theres a big difference between 1000 viewers and 9999 viewers. Their growth has been abysmal compared the recent phase connect gen which was their rival at debut since they gained more subscribers than them.
>>111609780>NijiYeah cool lmao
>>111609999>abysmal compared to the newest phase gen>half of the FSP gen is already higher than the entire phase genGreat job, numbermonkey. You made me check.
>>111609216Funny how Stars sisters were starting to praise FSP for being a better male idol agency and then the company decided to shut down JP branch just like how Cover did to StarsJPI guess male VTuber market is now completely monopolized by Niji's Kuzuha and I wouldn't be surprised if Anycolor saw this as an opportunity to go all in on sister pandering now that they have 0 competitors
>>111610262Cover hasn't even shut StarsJP down yet, though. Shien said just the other day that he is still being paid around as much as average nip salaryman now (around $30K / year) with salary. Salary, not income - which meant it didn't include stuffs like SC, ad revenue or similar
>>111610188Holo doesn't accelerate anymore so the odd of going there are next to impossible. Higher chance of getting into Niji than Holo (maybe Brave has other units).
>>111610416Incorrect. He said salary but it included everything he earns. There have been multiple clarifications about this even from jp listeners. He isn't the only one who uses the word salary to talk about overall earnings. Plenty of niji members do this as well in en and jp and we know they do not earn a salary the way we use that term.
Gen 3 for FSP was a major dud, I give them two more years tops if the newest hires can't pick up the slack
>>111610573Holo members do earn a salary exactly as we use that term, though?
>>111610655By "they" he meant niji members, not both holo and niji, anon
>>111610262>male VTuber market is now completely monopolized by Niji's KuzuhaBy him and his bots? there simply ISN'T a male vtuber market for corpos, the margins are small enough that only indies can survive.
>>111610716>By him and his bots?Anon, even if you dislike it, Kuzuha, Konoha or whatever his partner is called, and the other niji boybands are objectively popular in Japan.
>>111610655Yes, but he was talking about overall earnings. He used to earn double years ago but with the branch stagnating and loss of viewership they've all taken a hit. He earns overall less now. The point I was trying to make is that lots of people use salary to refer to an average in overall earnings not just him. Others in holo have used that term as well in the same way. It's pretty common to use it like that.
>>111609581FSP jp is a mixed branch
>>111610573>>111610416The best thing about that is they can have a regular job and just stream a couple hours every few days and this means they earn double the yearly salary if they do this consistently. You'd be able to earn what you'd earn in 10 years in just 5 years.
>>111610745ChroNoiR is doing pretty well with both Kuzuha and Kanae being on the main stage at NijiFes and receiving solo lives again later this year. And MECHATUA (Niji JP Heroes) have a sololive at the same venue as Kuzuha (K-Arena Yokoyama). Their male units and artists are averaging 100K album sales per album. Its clear that AnyColor is going to continue with this direction. So far there are no Female units to have a sololive this year other than CONCERTO DAY 1 at NijiFes.
>>111610862They tried to become Hololive starting with Gen 4, but it failed too!
>>111609555Why? What did EN do to you?
>thread about FSP>can't stop talking about HolostarsYou guys are weird.
>>111611015Isn't that basically what that one Temma guy did?
>>111609999>Their growth has been abysmal compared the recent phase connect gen which was their rival at debutThey have two completly different demographics, they are not competing at all. Show me all the bfe anime guys in phase faggot. Its like comparing sales of car to boat manufacturers and claiming boats cannot compete with the nooooombers of cars.
>>111609216qrd?
>>111615371fsp jp getting dissolved, some talents will go indie, some will stay under them
>>111609581>StarsEN is safeNot anymore, they currently got the same treatment as JP. No merchs and free stuffs.
>>111615494>No merchsThis doesn't affect them as much as you think. Unless Cover put their foot down since last time I watched, some of the Stars looked like they were going around Cover to sell merch? Or maybe I'm completely misunderstanding. But iirc Gavis had some tshirts from some print shop on Amazon lol
>>111614269You can't expect numberfags to be that smart. They see one word and their small monkey brains jump to a completely different conclusion.
>>111615646They're slowly getting there.
>>111610416Japanese Holo talents have a call their entire weekly payout, (which includes everything from streaming revenue to merch to sponsorships and events) as a salary. It's a Japanese idiosyncrasy that makes it confusing to find out if they still have the small stipend that was referenced in the old days. But no, Holostars do not have a base $30k salary for simply existing. That's all his income rolled into one figure. Arguably still better than getting a day job since your work is fun.
>>111609216>fsp jp - mixedcloses>fsp en - not mixedstill goinginteresting
>>111616709Corpos cant do mixed. Nijisanji gets to be the only outlier.
>>111616709This and Specialite (Reality Studios's female only branch) closing should be a wake-up call to people begging for a female gen in FSP EN.
>>111609587>perfect bomberdid they turn arthur harris into a vtuber
>>111618815he was so cute too
>>111616709The market for male vtubers is small but the females that do watch them don't necessarily want girls in the company that will bring in male fans that will then get mad at the male talents for interacting with the girls. Adding girls to FSP EN would just be a headache.
>>111622452Save for the dykes that keep nagging about wanting a "female wave in FSP" (you can tell where they're from with that statement), but thankfully the people in charge are smart enough to ignore that minority and give us a 4th gen of boys.
>>111609216 crossing fingers that next announcement is bankruptcy and closing down entirely so all their talents get their dream of audition to Nijisanji and get mistreated there instead
>>111625008>Because FSP killed my grandma, okay?!
>>111609216will the bloodbath never end
wtf is fsp
>>111622452I always thought it was more that they wanted a Hololive/K-On fantasy of cute boys being cute together without all the intergender dynamics that a co-ed cast brings. But fanbase drama would be annoying too, yeah.
>>111616709EN just had a LOT of things going well for them, Avallum was a golden gen from launch and they zoned in hard of the fem-gachikoi market. Their connections with the other corpo boys and how hard the agency was willing to bat for them helped a lot.They believed in the female audience and got rewarded for it. Honestly as a male Stagelight one of the most refreshing things about the agency is how it doesn't even pretend to appeal to guys lol.
so FSP EN is the first all male vtuber corpo then?
>>111610598The funny thing is I ended up liking Shiki quite a bit but the nepogen accusations REALLY hurt the agency.
>>111633172>it doesn't even pretend to appeal to guysInstead they do it accidentally with their game choices lol
>>111633593>liking whitebread guy with a small dick rage complexyou're not selling them
>>111633946That's his appeal. That pretty face with that ego despite being an entity meant to serve others makes you want to see him be fucked into complete submission to wipe that smug look off his face. He should keep it up.
>>111634023and the receding hairline?
>>111634601You won't be lauging when your boyfriend's hair is going