what is officially the biggest YAB in vtuber history?
probably the implosion of Vshojo
Selen Shock and it's honestly not even close
>>111626025Rushia marriage to mafumafu
>>111626097nah.at the end of the day, NIJIEN still exists and they have lived on.Ironmouse quitting Vshojo literally killed the #2 en corpo in 48 hours
>>111626124nobody gives a fuck about vshojo and grifterrat's video didn't "cause" the collapse
>>111626124Every ex vshojo is bigger than nijien many times over
Filian shitting herself.
>>111626219compared to NIJI where there was really no collapse at all. it is still around and streamers still streaming. even hiring a new gen right now. there was pratcially no fallout from Selen being fired compared to what happened when mouse blew the whistle on Vshojo. Vshojo went from the #2 agency on a Monday to being out of business by Thursday
>>111626025Rushia incident(s). For a lot of people that just brings up a lot of bad memories.
>>111626025towa has a big yab, if you know what i mean
>>111626025Nimi's LLD
>>111626333Taiwan yab has to be up there too. Changed Hololive forever
>>111626442True, it forced an entire branch and my original oshi that kept being anti'd at the time to eventually leave.
>>111626025remember when all of the holo JP members got exposed for having sex with me?
>>111626333I can't believe she invaded Ukraine.
>>111626025Suspending Komori Met. I hope VSPO dies
>>111626310Saying there was no collapse at all is really selling it short. The branch still exists but it's a husk of what it used to be, and its decline is easily verifiable that it began due to the selen debacle.
>>111626097I would narrow it down more specifically the black screen stream. Before then, the majority of people thought the fault rested solely on management. When the black screen stream started, people thought it was going to be Elira, Vox, and Ike speaking on behalf of the talents to soft rebuke management and that management has assured them they'll do better. But no, it was them trying to drag Selen through the mud and the entire agency lost trust in their fans overnight. The ironic thing is that Riku's dogeza right after that was actually a pretty decent corpo apology.
>>111626097>Chink BPD dyke lying was the biggest yabKek
>>111626025benchnye.png
>>111626025The existence of China
>>111626413Not a cuckling, but Nimi's LLD isn't even comparable to what's happened with VShojo, Niji, Holo, etc. VShojo ceased to exist, NijiEN declined hard in viewership afterwards and talents lost sponsor deals, Hololive killed an entire branch, but Nimi's doing fine even after her LLD. A bunch of faggots crying on /here/ isn't even close to Doki attempting suicide or Coco leaving the company.
>>111629054>Doki attempting suicidehopefully the suicide is successful next time
>>111626025not even closehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLuZQsTNas
>>111629112All the forumposting in the world won't restore NijiEN back to its former glory, but you can keep trying. I genuinely believe that if anyone in this thread killed themselves right now, the world would be a better place.
>>111626025In the English speaking side, Vshojo imploding or Gura quittingIn the Japanese side, probably Hololive abusing artists, the China bullshit or Rushia getting fired
>>111629112NIJISEETHE
>>111626025This creature. Along with the fact she was doing marriage related merch at the time along with a "promise ring" for the parasocial fans she cultivated. Her ex-fans literally went out and vandalized shit in public that had her advertised on it. I can't say other yabs lead to shit like that..
>>111629119YABWe have a winner>>111629320She's still a sweetheart
>>111629149>I genuinely believe that if anyone in this thread killed themselves right now, the world would be a better placegood idea. You should kill yourself and make the world a better place. Take >>111629247 with you
>>111627446dont get it twisted nijisanji did suffer, but it did not break.ultimately, their punishment was dropping from #2 to #3 as a corpovshojo started a week #2 and by the end of the week didnt exist anymore
The Rushia yab and it's not even close. Still the world's #1 superchatted vtuber 5 years later btw. People were crazy for her.
Womtons
A comparable one in west was Yuko Yurei's activities being exposed and forcing her to begin from 0 (she even lost her fans as Rye)
>>111626310If there was no collapse at all, how was Vshojo the #2 EN agency?
>>111631371Not them but I'd argue that they did a good job making themselves look bigger/etc than they actually were. Before it all fell apart, it wasn't a crazy notion
Is it me or has Ironmouse lost her invincibility to criticism/etc since VShojo went down, likely because without it, she moved to other more disiive ventures
>>111631486Vshojo jumping to second place had nothing to do with anything they were doing, and everything to do with Nijisanji shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly until they were functionally out of the race.
>>111631588eh, Vshojo had a lot of momentum when they got Henya and NijiEN was kinda stagnent
There was that one Japanese Vtuber who ripped her fingernail off on stream because her company wouldn’t let her stream insanely long hours. I’m pretty sure that is the biggest YAB.
>>111626025the phase connect shooter
>>111626025When hololive revealed its biggest secret
>>111631978He looked so young
>>111631628Vshojo was lucky that Henya fell into their lap when she did, or they might have been exposed as frauds much earlier.
>>111631712Ishinomaki Tsumuri, the menhera snail. If you want an example of a truly black company, read about the entire "Room 201" situation. Start here:>>18620984>>18796129>>19356564
>>111626025The stuff she got up to between 1938 and 1945 was pretty bad
>>111627447I remember seeing its chat going from what happened to nonstop Ls in real time too
Defending einshine
>>111629054Nimi only lost two thirds of her live audience and her sub growth went from 4-6k a week to 1-0k. I think to most shocking fact was that it was with Randon. But that isn't common knowledge yet, so the damage is somewhat mitigated
>>111626025Literally YABA Vtuber agency contracting important work to a guy that doxxed their talents is insane
>>111629112Cry about it phasecuck
>>111636981Was this the same guy who drugged talents?
How has no one mentioned the yab of hololive hiring an underage shion only to dress her like a slut and use her as a sex symbol?
>>111637089That's praiseworthy, not a "yab", you fucking moron. Learn what words mean.
>>111626025Riro's yab bring the jew corp down
>>1116260251.Selen Shock2.Rushia3.Vshojo collapse
>>111631132Honestly I respect boobros like a motherfucker for dropping that bitch on the spot.
>>111626413LLD?
>>111637843The tweet that started with "Little lore drop" Where Nimi revealed she's getting married (to Randon/Vesper) and wants to become a mother
>>111627447how did elira survive making the fucking CEO of cover have to naked dogeza live on streamwhat leverage could she possibly have to survive forcing her biggest boss into such a terrible loss of face?
>>111639042Anonchama, Riku is the CEO of Anycolor
>>111636981WACTOR?
>>111626025when Aqua slapped Pekora in front of Yagoo at the hololive office
>>111626025Vshojo collapse AINEC.
>>111631132Eh going from loligrift gfe whoring to not wanting to do that anymore will cut off the easy money but that is obvious to everyone. I don’t think she even did much wrong overall and it comes down to two groups calling each other groomers and one being mad they “lost”.
>>111626025
>>111626273Never happened. The fake bitch never really took any laxatives
Wactor was pretty fucked up but ES vtuber yabs in general all sound pretty fucked
>>111637049>phasecucksorry sister but I don't watch phasekek
>>111637985I am heartbeokwnBecause I used to ship Vesper and KroniiI cant believe that whore Fauna broke up my otp
>>111626025While not the biggest, nothing will beat the girl samefagging several vtubers, agencies, boyfriends and mods on her discords in terms how fucking insane it just is that that actually happened.
>>111642820You speak like a brownoid, of course you do
>>111644295are the "phasecucks" in the room with us right now?
>>111644749>see how he recoils, "I've been found out"
>>111639042She didn't. Both "she didn't survive it (the black screen)" and "she didn't make the CEO dogeza"She didn't survive it. It's the most-viewed video on her channel, and the most heavily disliked video, and the last anything she did on her channel for 60 days. It killed her channel in the algorithm, and she's been losing subs nonstop since then (I think she's lost something like 100k subs from then until now)And she didn't make Riku apologize for anything. He apologized only to the shareholders, and only for the negligible paper; but did it on the Niji EN official channel, in English and with English subtitles, specifically so that the shareholders would think he was apologizing to the EN fans for firing Selen and/or for the black screen. There's also the issue that the suit think that the western fans are morally obligated to uncritically accept his grossly insincere "apology" solely because he's of a higher societal "rank" than the fans.
>>111647662>she didn't survive>survived and streams every day and has for 2 years>even gets merch and does concerts>but she didn't survivewhat is this mental gymnastics?
>>111647760Maybe more accurate to say "gets by with Japanese fans but has no future in the west"
>>111643396>samefagging several vtubersThat doesn't just happen, it isn't even unusual, the second you step out of the holosphere you regularly see people with 3+ personas.
>>111645013so no proof that that anon is a phase fan???
>>111626025Either Rushia's crashout or the NijiEN black screen stream.I'd say the Vshojo implosion but honestly it basically changed absolutely nothing other than the company itself going under and Ironmouse no longer getting spammed on every news article about vtubers.
>>111637089this is japan we're talking about.
>>111650233>it changed nothing other than the #2 agency disappearing over nightbut yes, Finana and Millie losing subs changed the game
>>111633634It was hard to stomach watching the nail vid. That screaming was a bit too much
>>111626025in terms of company repercussions, I think Vshojo's immediate implosion was the craziest. It destroyed the company in under a week. For lasting effects, it's probably the holocaust due to it beginning the incredibly annoying practice of waiting for perms
depends how we are measuring the yab size. i think the most significant perspectives are the viewer's, and then from a business perspective. here's the first yabs that came to my mind with some analysis>the holocaustremoved some variety from hololive's content and forced the company to grow their legal department massively. but one could argue those changes were inevitable, and that the "yab" was down to mio having to stop streaming for a while. the long-term effects of this aren't that significant.>coco / haachama / taiwanimmediately resulted in two talents getting suspended and 6 others fired. the company also cut business ties with one of their largest partners and temporarily ended all business with an entire nation for several years. was a major factor in company reforms that lead to several other talents leaving later on, though one could argue those changes were inevitable with how much the company was growing.>rushiaone popular talent ended up fired. the company lost a very high earner.>various compounding luxiem yabsnobody mentioned this one yet but luxiem shrank from top-tier popularity to small-corpo tier in a short period of time, but it was due to several different things. debatable if it can be counted as a single yab.>selen shock / black screen streamthe whole event caused a massive lost of viewer goodwill that cannot be understated. every talent in the branch became significantly smaller overnight, one was fired obviously, multiple other talents ended up graduating over it, and the company lost sponsorships and a significant amount of revenue that has yet to recover years later.>vshojothe company immediately died, the talents lost a bunch of money, the executives are probably going to end up in some trouble, but there doesn't seem to have been any effect on the viewers.looking at both perspectives, it seems clear the main contenders for biggest yab are taiwan and the black screen. both were significant events for both their companies and the viewers. and out of the two, i think it's clear that the niji yab was far more significant. my reasoning is that we are now two years post-black screen stream, and niji en is still struggling massively. if we compare that to hololive 2 years after the taiwan yab, that would be 2022, and at that point the company had grown to be larger than it was during the time of the yab.
>>111626025Any answer except Nintenogate/Holocaust is wrong.People don’t realize it started when a certain company made a backroom deal with Nintendo for streaming permissions, and that basically kicked off everything that followed.It literally pushed the entire industry into a worse position. They gave up all their leverage to game developers for a short-term advantage over competitors.Now we live in a world where nobody can openly criticize the games they stream.The Rushia situation can still be considered significant, though on a smaller scale, since it basically destroyed the superchat + GFE market overnight. But by that point, the scene was already dying anyway.Those insignificant Western dramas had no real impact on the industry’s direction in any meaningful way. If anything, they just showed how unprofitable those scenes really are.
>>111652906>the long-term effects of this aren't that significantThe perms autism still persists to this day.
>>111626025holocaust for jpvshojo shit for the west
>>111626025enough with this yabs one upping another, can we just all agree to make like a tierlist of these mother of all yabs, plus there might be some yabs i dont know that i wanna know.
>>111653144perms autism means that they are a week or two late to hop on fotm indie game trends. i would argue that's pretty minor. they always get perms for big game releases.
>>111626025the capcom vodpocalypse was the vtuber equivalent of the burning of the library of alexandria. unless someone at cover decides to unprivate everything, it's years of lost media because of retarded jap bureaucracy.
>>111640874Why does nousubhuman support the nagishit?
>>111643183Kronii can't believe it either. Why do you think she was so mad at Fauna?
>>111627015Vesper….
>>>/jp/
>>111626025Rushia with Mafumafu. Coco with Taiwan. Hololive with game perms causing their channels to get nuked and being unable to stream the same variety of games ever since.
>>111652906vshojo yab was never drilled and investigated into. All their fans are simps that their vshojo personalities could do no wrong and it was ALL management. stinks as fuck. you can clearly tell Twitch helped cover it up as well
>>111664526>they stole money from themselves saarsmartest TVAjeet
>>111649544Fake it till you make it, I guess
