>>111638069
because nobody likes treacherous whores. They know exactly why she quit the job millions of people dream of and they have no respect for that.

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Reminder that whilst Bae work working her ass off, carrying her lazy gen, Fauna was repeatedly lying to her fans to work on her indie debut behind the scenes, knowing she was going to quit soon.

>>111638069
The same reason why she backstabbed them to boost her indie career

list of people who have unpersoned her
>Kronii
>dooby
list of people who have dropped contact
>Bae
>IRyS
>saba
>Mint (pending)

>>111638291
>no loss
>no loss
>no loss
>no loss
>no loss
>maybe loss?

>>111638069
Bae literally cried eat shit schizo

>>111638291
GG also dropped contact after the first few months.

>>111638069
Hard to not get second hand embarrassment from what she did

>>111638364
She cried because she took the vampire away from her

>>111638377
I don't blame her after she went out of her way to keep her promise to Fauna in her 3D debut, and then Nimi streamed over All For One after promising she would watch Gigi on stage

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They are jealous.

>>111638291
IRyS dropping contact is even more damning considering she still talks to Sana who was there for a year

>>111638069
cucklingniggers seriously need to get the memo their whore left in bad terms with everyone, even though I get a good laugh when their "Fauna" spam gets completely ignored every single time , it's getting tiresome

>>111638445
Not-Kronii literally collabed with Sana
Bae still talks to Mumei
Kiara still in contact with Ame and Gura

Nimi is literally the only one no active vtuber associates with anymore

>>111638291
Kronii has a motive to spread nasty rumors and Ame talks and hangs out with her. What's most likely is Kronii got jealous that she got double cucked and retaliated in the most feminine way possible.

>>111638228
>>111638069
white girls cant do anything wrong

Half the claims here are wrong, the rest is exaggerated.

>>111638550
Why is that none of her genmates ever mention her then anon?

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Brownfeet thread
If there were actual issues, Shachi wouldn't be friends with Nimi

>>111638550
It's all the same spammer

>>111638722
Your bitch queen of the vibe check mentioned her, doesn't stop you guys from sperging out tho

>>111638863
nta but qrd?

>>111638848
>If there were actual issues, Shachi wouldn't be friends with Nimi
>if there were actual issues, a (now) proven Nimi-tier grifter wouldn't be friends with Nimi
kek
kekaroo, even

Oh right, forgot holodrones call Shachi a grifter now. Sad.

>>111638228
>playing videogames and watching jojo is work
I almost hate you as much as I hate cucklings

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>>111638898
>voice hort
>voice hort
>voice hort
>merch run ready
>voice better MIC ON
>oh hii~
>$$$$$$$$

>>111638921
>made up by holodrones
>merch after a year
>mic was already announced months before

>>111638921
she did her best to nuke her streaming career for 10 months and you absolute brainlets still think she is doing something for money

>>111638921
If Shachi is grifting, then that has to mean that she makes more money doing random literal who streams with less CCV than she did as Mumei on hololive.

Does cover pay that badly?

>>111638881
What about Kiara? Is she a grifter too?

>>111638988
>she did her best to nuke her streaming career for 10 months
People who try to nuke their streaming career don't stream; she continued streaming and found out (to her surprise probably) her napkek-tier cucked fans would turn up and throw money at her even for the laziest and most insulting content she could possibly make, so she maintained that grift until her merch was ready. The fact she gaslit you into thinking that lazy ass no-mic content was her way of actually being genuine and humble is fucking hilarious. You deserve to lose your money to these white American ewhores. They've always been the issue since day 1 in Hololive. I'm glad it's mostly Asians left now and it speaks volumes.

>Nimiseethe out of nowhere
What happened to Phase this time?

>>111639033
>I'm glad it's mostly Asians left now
Asians are fucking boring

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>>111639131
all ENs are boring, at least the Asians don't lecture you about not ACTUALLY being friends irl and LLD their parasocial fanbases. Shachi teaming up with Nimi is the biggest red flag btw considering Nimi's recent collab partners so you continuing to defend her isn't going to pay off for you lol

>>111639168
What's wrong with Nimi's collab partners?

>>111639183
they're all openly married and their fans bring up their husbands all the time

>>111639199
I doubt Mumei is married, she probably has a bf, she's not gonna bring it up on stream though

this thread is worse than vtweeters

>>111639209
Not a collab partner

>>111639220
what?

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Nimi is one of those women who see marriage as the ultimate status symbol. In her head she's part of this exclusive club now where she will only associate with other women who are on her level and fell for the modern day scam. One will no longer entertain or collaborate with peasant unmarried skanks. Only married women are allowed in Nimi's circle so they can all yap about each others' husbands and their terrible sex lives and inevitable affairs and swinging.

>>111638228
Bae hates you for badmouthing her genmates while using her name
BAESED BAE

>>111639268
lol, you unironically typed and posted this

It really is extremely weird how different the reactions are depending on how close the person used to be. Fuwamoco still talk about Fauna like it's nothing, and they're like the unicorn queens of EN, so the LLD had zero impact. It's something only those who were closer to her were aware of that made them completely drop that woman.

>>111639033
She ghosted her fucking audience for 9 months lmao "kept streaming" you're a baboon

>>111639268
She's only engaged not married you retard, so much for that prestigious symbol she can activate at any point

>>111639435
or most were just coworkers and not actual friends

>>111639033
>tanked her ccv from 8k for 4 days to 3k with her muted shit
>she's doing it for money

>>111639464
Right, which is the point. Those who were just coworkers and barely interacted but were still obviously aware of the LLD still talk about her. Those who were with her since before she even debuted dropped her. Doesn't sound like a small thing.

Hey tourist here, I also heard that the Naplings harassed the Kroniies and Bratz. What's up with that? Also, I can see how her gen mates would be mad after doing all of those, but for them to completely cut her off. There must be something more she did to them, any ideas? And Kronii spreading misinformation? When did she do that? And Randon as her husband, how did you all connect the dots to conclude it was him?

i like how they were all right about management being shit; see mori's latest melty

>>111639595
>And Randon as her husband, how did you all connect the dots to conclude it was him?
Because Bae and Kronii were the biggest Fauna haters, and Bae and Kronii also apparently hated Vesper (they unfollowed him on Twitter after he graduated)
Then Fauna graduates and follows Randon and Magni on Twitter
That was enough to plant the idea, then I looked at their streams to see if I could find any incriminating patterns, and when you actually look there was so much evidence that there's no way that they can't be married

>>111639706
why are spending so much time thinking about men

>>111639595
Fantasy that lives on this board, and literal doxxing

>>111639641
EN management was never good.

>>111639706
>schizo babble when you just doxxed them 2 years later

>>111639730
I didn't dox them

>>111639721
tell that to the holomem bootlickers who defended cover

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Man I Love Nimi

>>111639736
We all saw for the several weeks you guys spammed it, don't pretend otherwise . Everything else is you guys desperate for something that isn't linked to you just doxxing them

>>111639435
Mumei was closer to Fauna than most and she was nice to her the whole way through.

IRyS and Fauna were never close.

And I think the Bae Fauna rivalry is completely overstated. Pure headcanon territory.

Kronii Fauna was the thing that actually happened and people have tried making connections off of that ever since.

>>111639029
She's a talentless hack in their book. Either you stream thus a hack or barely do so and be grifter.

>>111639738
they'd just turn on mori too if she ever does the same thing

>>111639744
>you guys
I'm an individual

>>111639764
an individual part of a mindbroken collective

>>111639773
No I don't approve of doxxing

>>111639748
But I'm not saying they hated her, just that the difference is clear compared to any other graduation from any other gen. Gen 5 still talk about fucking Aloe.

>>111639744
Do you think people went comparing every single person's details with what was found? They looked into Vesper's because he was suspicious and what they found confirmed the suspicions. It would've been impossible to find anything without Nimi's actions.

>>111639789
When was the last time Kronii brought up Sana? Even though we know for a fact Kronii still likes her to this day?

You guys are reaching the conclusions you want to reach and then working backwards from them.

>>111639809
No it wouldn't lol they used her address to find his ass, you're only chatting because of doxx

>>111639820
And all it would've showed was some random dude's name without people looking into him specifically to find a link, and people only (mostly) looked into him because of Nimi drawing attention to him

>>111639903
Glad you're not denying it, don't care for your other drivel

>>111639595
>And Randon as her husband, how did you all connect the dots to conclude it was him?
it was a shitpost rrar from day 1 because the followed each other immediately after leaving, Nimi got Magni to make her intro and she uses the same clipper as Randon
But due to the absurdity nobody really took it seriously

then it was irrefutably proven by hard dox, that are registered at the same address (honestly pretty impressive work since it required the few fragments of randon doxxing himself throughout years of streams, ultimately his older brother was the smoking gun that connected everything)

then people dug in more and connected more dots, such as the twitch founders badge and analysis that they haven't overlapped a single time in 2+ years, had multiple simultaneous breaks, and the only times they tap into one another's timeslots is when the other one is away

>>111639706
Thank you! To all the fandoms here, rest assured, I do not hate your Oshis. I watched both of their streams and for me, I genuinely enjoy both. However, there's are just so many weird things been happening in the Fandom lately. I am not here for the drama either but I just really want to know and understand the perspective of both parties. Because for some reason Kroniies and Naplings were fighting like Groudon and Kyogre. You guys don't have to answer this but the term "Kronii won" still bothers me to this day. Anyway folks, you guys have a wonderful day. Take care as always.

Active is good, inactive is evil.

>>111639955
so it's just jealous incels? lol

Her married roommate makes Nimi "evil" in the eyes of unicorns. However, for fans who value great content, her frequent streaming makes her a "good Chuuba."

>>111639994
No rumor has been proved harder than this

>>111639994
melty

>>111639996
What makes her a good chuuba is that she hasn't mentioned the shit once since lld

>>111639595
>heard that the Naplings harassed the Kroniies and Bratz. What's up with that?
Saplings always had some real bad cases, so when the graduation was announced they went nuclear and starting attacking everyone near her as the reason why their "mommy" was leaving.
From memory it got so bad that either Bae or Cover corp had to address the level of harrassment they were doing, but that could've been another time saplings decided to be psychos

>>111638069
She hid her personal relationship with a Holostar from her fans and coworkers, which not only put their reputations in danger but also denied her colleagues the right to judge her actions regarding that actor as self-serving.

I understand that being disliked for seemingly outsmarting others is common. Even in JPHolos, Sakamata is more distanced from Holos compared to other retireds

>>111638291
She raided into mint and shachi recently.

>>111639814
>Even though we know for a fact Kronii still likes her to this day
You know that for a fact, but can't say the same about her and Fauna, using the same sources. You're doing exactly what you're accusing me of.

>>111639996
>Her married roommate makes Nimi "evil" in the eyes of unicorns.
Unicorns twist every action she does as evil because they want her to fail because she announced her marriage. They interpret everything she does as bad which includes being honest to viewers. Now with that being said Kronii was upset with Fauna for leaving because she went through Hell because of her boob jiggling design. After Sana left because Cover refused to give her a model redesign Council was demoralized. They did call 2022 the year of fake smiles so I am guessing that Promise was a gen name that was likely chosen by the talents. I do think some of the EN talents were legitimately upset with her decision to leave while others understand that if things went bad they would likely make the same decision.

>>111640080
>She hid her personal relationship with a Holostar from her fans and coworkers
This might be the most delusional unicorn belief that anyone in Hololive is having to hide their boyfriend or husband. Cover might sell the idol illusion to boost merch sales but even they don't forbid relationships. That level of sexism by idol companies is barely tolerated in modern day Japan and would be completely illegal outside of Japan. The only thing the contract forbids is announcing a relationship, like a marriage, in a way that is connected to their Hololive character. The mandatory trips to Japan while wanting to raise young children is really the big reason that she left. Cover can't legally get in the way of them having children but on a cynical level I do think they have reasons for wanting to make it more difficult. The increasing number of 3D recordings for concerts would mostly hurt the foreign talents but I don't think Cover would consider that a negative...

>>111640588
Matsuri did say that dating between Cover employees is forbidden. Do you think she was lying?

>>111639706
This fag watches male vtubers lmao

>>111638069
>>111638291
>>111638445
I think they just find her intimidating since she's so much smarter than they are.

>>111640667
Employees, not other talents

>>111640588
Stfu outfitschizo

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>>111638069
Because she abandoned them because of Vesper.

>>111638228
No amount of paid posting can anyone sane look past that terrible mess of a design and horrible annoying voice.
Actually worse than Kiara holy shit it's so bad.

>>111638069
There is no need to wish someone happy dick rides when you aren't getting any. They knew she would be the most satisfied of the bunch.

>>111638069
Rent free

>>111638069
>Bae
CCP plant
>IRyS
sociopath
>Kronii
angry because Fauna stole her meat dildo Vesper

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>>111642272
The Vesperonii rrat doesn't make sense.

Kronii is not romantically interested in men. But ok, that's a whole different can of worms. Let us for a moment take some extra potent imagination pills and stretch our imaginations to the limit and asume Kronii is into men, and let us then stretch it even beyond and assume she's into men like Vesper(lmao).
1st let's be clear about the rrat and its evidence. The rrat is that Kronii and Vesper were dating eachother and at some point Vesper ditched Kronii to get on with Fauna(this requires further stretching of the imagination) or was cheating on her with Fauna and was caught. This rrat would explain why Kronii decided to unperson both of them, the rrat is supposedly supported by the "confirmation" of Vesperfau.
There are several problems with this narrative.
1: Kronii is against workplace relationships: https://www.youtube.com/live/QUPjHbpJ0YY?t=10768s She would never date a co-worker.
2: The timeline doesn't fit, if the rrat were true, Kronii would have gotten angry at them at the same time, but that's not how it happened, she got angry at Vesper and Magni mid 2023 and at Fauna early 2024. This fits in with a work related dispute with Vesper.
3: Some of the girls are angry at Nimi, and others are not. Gura, Kiara, Sana and Mumei are not angry at Fauna, if Fauna had stolen Kronii's man, I don't think anyone would have forgiven her.
4: There's no evidence Kronii had any interest in Vesper, she never complimented him, asked him a personal question, or talked about him unprompted, she never took interest in any of his hobbies or adopted any of his expressions or mannerisms. Their collabs were rather cold and awkward. The biggest "vesperonii" moment was her laughing at her own mistake, not at his jokes.

What most likely happened is that Vesper did something that greatly ofended Kronii, Calli, Ame, Ollie, Altare, etc. And Kronii got angry at Fauna for taking his side (by dating him). Also got angry at her because she hid their relationship and lied to her, this is assuming Vesperfau is even real. If it were false then it would indicate that she got angry at them for 2 unrelated reasons.

>>111639739
I say this

>>111642104
asking questions is Rent free? Do you know how retarded that sounds?

>>111642852
>asking questions is Rent free?
yes

>>111643044
face it cuckling. The holo idols don't give a shit about some orc's cum rag

>>111643142
You forgot the bonus: Napling Seethe, napling.

>>111638069
wh*Te

>>111640135
without their consent, she's grasping at straws.

>>111643263
Only you seem to care so much about these cuck fantasies. Rent free as the other anon put it.

>Fauna asked Kronii to visit her on her birthday
>Kronii flew and stayed for 3 days
>fruits basket marathon
>watched Mario movie at a theater
>reminisced and watched clips of devour and other old collabs
>cuddled on the couch together with snail
>slept in the same bed
>Fauna was too shy to try on a dress at a mall, so Kronii asked the shopkeeper and bought the dress for her.
>https://youtu.be/NqS7aleMTLM
>trimmed nails
>itchy nose
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOPE-7wej8
>Fauna lost on purpose and let Kronii win for 5 games
>https://youtu.be/Zkvb0-6Kzo4?t=5788
>Kronii: You're patient? oh really? You weren't so patient when that happened.
>https://youtu.be/BeSe4nvYws8
>last tweet, retweet, or mention Summer 2023
>last 1 on 1 collab Summer 2023
>last mention on-stream (Kronii's end) Summer 2023
Reminder that they had sex, were in a relationship for a while, and then stopped talking to each other. Even in Japan, they went on dates together, they signed the wall together climbing the same ladder while holding hands.
Their relationship ended sometime late 2023.
Kronii was heartbroken about it, never mentioning Fauna, re/tweeting her, avoiding her in collabs, etc., Kronii only said goodbye to her in the graduation stream because the others agreed to do a group goodbye.
The fundamental reality is Fauna wanted to try girls, Kronii wanted something more. Fauna got bored, Kronii was used. There’s only one villain in this story. Kronii has no ability to recognise if she’s being used (Sally/Fauna now Kaela (Raora if she keeps it up)) and if she does realise then she keeps intentionally hurting herself by letting herself think she’ll have something she’ll never get.
It’s well understood Fauna is a vindictive bitch, why else would her successor partner with one of the people who worked hard to ruin Kronii’s life.

>>111638291
How many have unpersoned or dropped your contact?

>>111644373
It's clear that all the women will drop Kronii; in the end, they'll marry a man, and Kronii is denying that.

>>111644373
Raora will overcome the odds

>>111638910
Playing video games is too much "work" for the average woman, as evidenced by just how lazy all vtubers are.

>>111639814
>When was the last time Kronii brought up Sana? Even though we know for a fact Kronii still likes her to this day?
We only know this because they streamed together on their PL accounts.

>>111644795
If I were in Hololive I would only drop Kronii for Ina

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>>111638069
When I watched the Super Mario Galaxy movie, I automatically thought of Fauna and the Saplings whenever Rosalina and the Luma's were onscreen.

It's actually a better way to enjoy the film, I heavily recommend doing this mental replacement if you watch it.

has anyone ever been more cucked and raped than OP?

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>>111639268

>>111645644
getting cucked and then raped by the same guy would be terrible no cap

just imagine: he pulls out of her swollen, quivering slit, leaving a trail of semen and her love juices on the mattress. he confidently strides over to you and sticks his still-hard cock in your face and tells you to taste it because it's the closest you'll ever get to her.

before you make your decision he turns you around and drapes your body over the chair like a sports coat and starts thrusting. no lube is needed because randon's member is slick with nimi's vaginal secretions.

>>111644373
I've never really believed the kronii fauna relationship rrat. It seems more likely to me that kronii just wanted orc cock, fauna did something that could be deemed underhanded to take orc cock from her and the resulting tension from that caused everyone else to side with kronii over fauna.
Too many plot holes for the lesbian relationship thing to make sense and the evidence for it is mediocre - too many "this is what lesbian lovers do!!!" things which make no sense to do publicly if it were actually the case unless they wanted it to be publicly known. Far more likely to just be standard yuribaiting.

>>111640667
>Matsuri did say that dating between Cover employees is forbidden. Do you think she was lying?
She was referring only to relationships between management and talents. Matsuri never said anything about talents dating each other which is why unicorns are so attached to even the most absurd soap opera rrats related to Holostars. Cover usually doesn't interfere with relationships but that might be the one area they would strongly discourage it since that would cause fan backlash with HoloPro unity.

>>111642597
>she got angry at Vesper and Magni mid 2023 and at Fauna early 2024. This fits in with a work related dispute with Vesper.
Or the guys were fighting with management because they were asking Cover to offer a model redesign to Kronii and they were fired. Vesper was able to get a new design in less than a year he likely was furious that management was throwing out excuses for why they couldn't do that for Kronii. If they were fired while helping Kronii that would explain why she didn't want seething unicorns attacking them.

>>111642597
>What most likely happened is that Vesper did something that greatly offended Kronii, Calli, Ame, Ollie, Altare, etc
Than why does Axel still have them in his stream opening and why does Shiori casually mention them in 2026? The rrat that they did something horrible doesn't line up with how other talents refer to them. They were fired (regardless of the "graduations" announcement) but it was only management that was angry with them.

Kronii being cold towards Fauna only started after Fauna told the others about her graduation. The recent video clip from Iroha about Chloe leaving HoloX and her feelings about that is likely similiar to Kronii when she found out that Fauna was leaving Promise. Iroha was sad but wanted to move on because Chloe would no longer be active in their gen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkfjtpFS3EM

>>111646543
>why does genmate who's just as bad and girl who never actually met him not have an issue with him
you really typed this and thought you were making a point outfitschizo

>>111638069
Well, why should they? She's a liar and a grifter and a snake too evidently. Pretended to be CGDCT all while secretly already dating Vesper.

>>111638069
Because they were excited at the prospect of Saplings naturally gravitating to one of them.

>>111646793
who in their right mind would want
>saplings
for fans

>>111638291
There is zero proof of any of this. The only one that's plausible here is Kronii given her actions during their last year together. but everything else is schizo cope.

>>111646934
at least they're not brats

>>111647275
Ticket scalpers are absolute scum.

>>111638069
Less competition.
They're co-workers, not friends.

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>>111638530
This. Honestly, it's easy to tell that all the shitflinging at white women vtubers is from jealous and desperate Nijisisters. Like corpo like fans I guess.

>>111638492
Do the Homos still talk to Randon?

>>111638069
>>111638228
They're racist. Kronii literally said she didn't want to sit next to a white woman on a plane because she felt "uncomfortable" then sat next to a japanese woman and said she felt "better"

>>111639033
We just need to filter it further to East Asians maybe then Vtubing will regain its reputation of superior entertainment.

>>111647491
>Korean
>Gay
>Racist
Wait a minute...

>>111647491
Proof or that's bullshit because it sounds like you're confusing her with that Nijifag

>>111638910
back to the construction site paco

>>111639955
>doxxing himself throughout years of streams
Well it is inevitable considering in order to stay relevant and relatable you have to toss out bread crumbs from time to time. It's also the way LEO's and intel services find people. A numbers game really, talk enough and people can complete the picture. Resorting to a hard dox is basically saying fuck it.

>>111647517
>>111639033
Well Americans don't play by the same set of rules that Asians do. The big mistake was thinking you could replicate the culture and mannerisms. Americans hate purity culture and their celebrities are encouraged to be bad as a statement. But we do see what happens when vtubers do play by Japanese rules in America and they end up not being popular. Vtubing just doesn't connect to men in the west like it does in the orient and there is the idolshit hate going around too not helping.

>>111646543
Matsuri used the word for employee (社員), not management (運営) in the clip I've seen. Why would there be a distinction?

>>111640015
Never proven lmao

>>111648258
Cope, the chances of everything matching up perfectly is less than 1 in a trillion, you're basically the attorney arguing the DNA matching the defendant is a coincidence and doesn't count

>>111639033
>>111639168
stfu gokischizo you're the only one who spams this image and you do it while samefagging JP vs EN arguments
>>92104567
>>95917425
Or you use it to samefag while shitting on Bae
>>80972423
Funny how I also found it used in a phase bait thread to deflect, but in that one it was posted hours later to try and change the conversation
>>83590600
Could it be? You've been a shitposting phasefag who larps as a holofag this entire time so you can shit on holos and exholos?

Now that I think about this, maybe this entire thread is AI generated, no one even pointed out for that 3rd post that Bae doesn't do schedules anymore and the napling defenses seem awful (x likes her, so y not liking her means she did nothing to piss off the others).

>>111648657
There's not a single napling on this board, of course fake defendes suck

>>111646574
Unicorns hate Axel because of the HoloPro EN songs but the guy had more reason than most to be angry over their "graduations" if they had been due to a selfish reason. That he kept Vesper and Magni in his stream opening indicates that he understood why they got into a huge fight with management (helping another talent). That is similar to the curious situation in Myth that no one got angry with Ame for leaving Hololive and if she optimistically returns after Serendipity that still means that she left for almost 2 years.

>>111638291
Turns out leaving your company and friends for a Homo might create some resentment.

>>111649746
people hate Axel cause he's a piece of shit, and no, Ame affiliating has FUCKING NOTHING to do with the 2 retards fucking off because they're menhera faggots

>>111638069
Because they can literally message her at any time lmao, she didn't die what the fuck looooool

>>111639789
I mean there's a pretty obvious reason why they stopped talking about her: she's not in the company anymore.
Even in Holo she was off on an island and focused on solo content. The few friends she did make there (Mumei, Gura, etc.) also graduated, and now as an indie she has new contacts to work with and focus on.

It's just a job, anon.

>>111640667
>Cover employees
legally they're contractors apparently
It's stupid but that's how it is.
As such, it doesn't apply.

I just assumed the Nimi x Rendon stuff was shitposting, what the fuck do you mean it's actually real
Who writes this shit?

>>111644275
>only you
daily seethe threads prove it isn't just me. Nimi lost a large portion of her audience. It would be more if she talks about her marriage on stream

>>111638069
There is a lot to unpack but to put it shortly backstabbing Kronii was the nail in the coffin.

>>111650087
Fiction can't keep up with reality

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>>111650095
>daily seethe threads prove it isn't just me.
...anon?

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Man I love my indecent shared wife.

>>111647398
>most dedicated to oshi
>scum

>>111649827
It's truly unbelievable that she chose one of them, and the one that's maybe a decade older too, just going off the differences between their life experiences and tastes.

How can you be mad at a twig?

>>111638228
Anon you can't bait with Bae's yearly full month of streaming.

>>111638069
Because she stole and bred the orc before they could

>>111651177
I thought women detest ojisan. Why?

>>111651519
You heard wrong. At least it gives the older anons some hope for their own.

>>111651903
I'm not a woman, can you explain what the appeal is? Why men who are past their prime??? It's not even like they're getting with oil barons, senior partners at JP Morgan or NBA retirees.

No one ever talks about Fauna in EN, admit it she was a bitch to work with.

>>111652005
NTA but anons have a very, very warped opinion on what women actually want out of a guy, which I guess is to be expected.

Bae did cry. And then Mumei said "penis."

>>111652005
Because its what they do. Remember back to when you were in junior high and you saw girls who bragged about dating high schoolers? Remember when you were in high school and girls were dating college students? Remember those girls who got married immediately after graduating high school to guys you never saw on campus and those guys looked like adult men? Dating older men is just something women do and it gives social cred to them. Hell, look at your parents and people who are older and the age gaps they have. Current day anti age-gap movement is manufactured and an attempt as psyop.

>>111638069
>Cover made a new group to make them closer
>left
And you wonder why they shed no tear whe she left

>>111639209
meat?

>>111640588
You don't get to play the "being honest with viewers" card after you told them to get their credit cards out and buy your merch before the LLD

>>111654326
>take your credit cards out
means
>make sure you're ready before the orders go live or you'll lose to the scalpers
retard

>>111639209
grape?

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>>111652211
Yeah, mine.

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She played you good. Greatest heist in history. Straight up DB Cooper in here.

If you are new to vtubing just remember this;

Stay away from green vtubers.

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>>111655985
NIJISEETHE

>>111638722
It's rare for graduated members to get mentioned ny name at all, except by Kiara.

>>111648085
>when vtubers do play by Japanese rules in America
???

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>>111639268
>inevitable affairs and swinging
SEEEEEEX

>>111638377
Proof?

>>111639033
Im a former hooman and I find it hard it argue against this

>>111656072
>pic aged like milk

>>111656449
are you also a former ruffian who writes paragraphs about how you dropped them? i see a lot of those in the catalog for some reason
also reminds me of fhe "former otomos" who shit up CC's thread

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>>111656503
>Still seething

>>111656511
>former ruffian
no such thing they've always protected our smiles

>>111638228
that's the part that stuck in my craw the most

>>111656584
just saying i see a lot of supposed former ruffians in the catalog whenever a fwmc bait thread pops up and then suddenly people dogpile them
seeing the stuff that gets said about those in those threads has basically made me dismiss most catalog seethe, you guys will say shit about everyone

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>>111656565
>seething
>pic only has half of the previous one
Not so slick king

>>111656618
falseflagging beggars most likely

Now I see why Kronii hates women.

>>111656666
nice quads

>>111638175
>>111638228
obsessed

>>111656712
>obsessed
>not a lier

>>111656503
>literally in a concert together

>>111657389
>never again

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>>111638069
>Call her a mother/mommy for years
>>WTF SHE CAN'T BE A REAL MOTHER

Wow

>>111657504
An upcoming one, genius.

>>111639641
Where can I find her meltdown?

>>111638069
Because she went out of her way to try and burn their place of employment down, basically trying to take away their jobs. If your coworker quit and tried to get you fired along with them you would get pissed too.

>>111657904
>Because she went out of her way to try and burn their place of employment down
what

>>111657983
she pretty much blamed all her issues on managemnet and the covercorp, which then caused her fans to go rabid and start bringing shit up in the other girls channels and when they didn't get the same response as what Fauna gave them they decided that the other girls were the enemy.
Fuck that was such a stupid time that could have been avoided.

>>111658054
She literally gave the same canned response as all the other girls. You're retarded.

>>111658114
NTA but that's wrong
> "I'm not leaving because I don't want to be here. I'm not leaving because I don't want to be an idol"

>>111658160
Yes, we know you're ESL.
She didn't leave because she didn't want to be a vtuber anymore. That's all it says there, and she proved it by immediately coming back and continuing where she left off. .

>>111658175
Yes, and she blamed the company for it.
Instead of responding defensively, think about how saplings took the announcement and who they ended up blaming once they saw the announcement. Because, logically, why would someone want to leave if they were still an active streamer and still wanted to be an active streamer? That's why Fauna's graduation caused the most infighting within the Hololive fanbase. This did not happen with any of the other graduations.

>>111658241
>Yes, and she blamed the company for it.
Yes, and I believe the specific words were, "disagreement with management."
The exact same phrase said by Aqua, Ame, Gura, and Chloe.

>>111658241
>This did not happen with any of the other graduations.
I still rememebr all the fucking saplings trying to force hate towards Mumei becuase when she was graduating beause all the other girls actually wanted to do things with her.

>>111658257
You still don't get it, which is why you keep on going back to that statement while ignoring all the other stuff that all the other girls talked about and the fact that most of the other girls were already seen as soft-graduated even before they graduated
Meanwhile Fauna had none of that, she only talked about management. Do you see the difference?
>But x had issues with management too
Even active Hologirls have issues with management, again the issue remains that Fauna named only management as the issue and she graduated because of it, which is why half of EN had to come out with damage control statements about why Hololive was not a black company when they didn't have to do that for any of the other graduates.

>111656449
>hooman
kekaroo

>>111658241
I'll take things that didn't happen for 500

>>111658323
No there is no difference except your seething and your idol work rrat has also been disproven she's done more than ever

>>111658484
I said nothing about idol work at all. I said she blamed the company and only the company and as you said she proved it by still doing idol stuff and everything else she was already doing outside the company.

>>111658160
>> "I'm not leaving because I don't want to be here. I'm not leaving because I don't want to be an idol"
>went out of her way to try and burn their place of employment down
Holy mental illness

>>111658461
Tired of this cope so I'll link proof this time
Go and compare the reaction to her graduation to how people reacted to the other graduations
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1h3rqx2/announcement_regarding_ceres_faunas_graduation/
The sentiment is far more negative and angry because the statement itself was unambiguously negative and left no room for cope with the majority of the comments bashing management and crying out for a statement from others

Meanwhile for the other girls, the majority of the comments are sad/wistful. Yes, even for Gura's graduation - most of the outcry about her came from outsiders:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1fl615c/an_announcement_to_our_fans_regarding_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1fl5ojv/amelia_watson_of_holoen_is_graduating_on_sept_30th/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1k09zmn/announcement_regarding_gawr_guras_graduation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1jlkxvd/announcement_regarding_nanashi_mumeis_graduation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1elewef/minato_aqua_announces_her_graduation_last_stream/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1pc2xhd/announcement_regarding_amane_kanatas_graduation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1h2kf5z/an_announcement_to_our_fans_regarding_the
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1nws69l/announcement_regarding_hiodoshi_aos_graduation/

Note that several of the other girls also put out statements specifically asking fans not to blame the company or included that in their graduation announcement - Fauna never did this, which only added to the problem

>>111658781
>Fauna is a bad person because she told the truth so people couldn't cope and pretend there was nothing wrong with the company

>>111658513
Again, all of the other girls said the exact same thing, if not worse.
There's zero reason to single out Fauna for this.

>>111658827
>>111658834
>Note that several of the other girls also put out statements specifically asking fans not to blame the company or included that in their graduation announcement - Fauna never did this, which only added to the problem

>>111658839
Why shouldn't they blame the company?

>>111658834
>if not worse.
Curious, what statement would you say is "worse"? Go ahead and point them out to me

>>111658781
She was simply the first with the statement and you niggers containment break all your tranny drama

>>111658538
>went out of her way to try and burn their place of employment down
>>111658461

>>111658852
Fauna is free to blame the company and you are free to think she should have blamed them, the point is that it's obvious to see why the reaction to them was different despite some people trying to say all the graduations were the same

>>111658839
Fauna cultivated that rabid fanbase, so there was no way in hell she was going to tell her fans not to be angry, she just focused on her indie and merch debut and let all the other girls deal with the saplings.
I don't even hate Fauna, but naplings deserve the cucking.

>>111658839
Yeah, because Fauna was the first one to use the management coined line as a guinea pig, so afterwards they started preparing for the backlash.
It's even in their IR, anon. They specifically mention coming up with the "disagreement with management" line to minimize friction, not realizing that people would still chimp out without further actions.

If you want an ACTUAL exit where someone feels forced out, go watch Ame's notgraduation again. The entire stream is an uncomfortable mess that feels like a girl desperately clinging on to her last stream, coming up with more excuses to extend it and keep the magic going. No fancy produced graphics or Cover-produced events like the other girls, just a girl in her ramshackle home 3D trying to make do, nervously hoping you remember her and saying that maybe one day she could come back, "but only if Cover lets me."

You retards had a slam dunk you could've used all this time but instead latched onto the most boring person to bait with.

>>111658861
>"Could I come back? I.. I don't know. That's not up to me. Maybe in the future ..if they let me."

>>111658917
If she wanted the company to hurt she could you know actually say something bad about the company, all this drama is in ur mentally ill mind

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Man I Miss Fauna.

>>111659129
But all the drama that ensued after her graduation anouncement was due to saplings harrassing hololives other talent, especially Bae and Kronii, Fuana didn't directly cause her fans to act this way but she didn't help put out the fire she inadvertently lit since she was too busy getting ready for Nimi merch.
During that month half the board was full of hate threads for HoloEN, saplings were causing shit in the other girls chats, it was so bad that Bae was almost crying on stream due to them
So i'll reiterate, S(N)aplings deserve to be cucked, and honestly a whole lot worse.

>>111658926
Aqua and Chloe literally left before Fauna and both of them did that. You're still hung up on the "disagreement with management" line when I'm talking about Fauna's entire statement and more importantly, what she didn't say.
As for Ame, that didn't feel like someone being forced to leave, that feels like someone who's always been a mess still being a mess on stream because she didn't know what she wanted to do, like the good old days of disastrous VRchat collabs. Only someone who has never watched Ame could think that stream wasn't just Ame being Ame. Did you even watch Ame or are you bringing her into this for no reason?
>You retards had a slam dunk you could've used all this time but instead latched onto the most boring person to bait with.
You really don't get it huh, you think people are baiting. Well, some people are (like the OP who made this thread), but you can't dismiss everything just because you have a pet schizo who spams the most extreme version of actual talking points.

>>111659294
>Did you even watch Ame
Consider who you're replying, do you really expect him to watch streams of the other girls?

>>111659294
Right, I forgot to be specific. It was the first time it was used outside of Japan, because the japanese were already used those kinds of lines.
And anon, the point of bringing up the ame stream is that she DID say shit that would be worse in a vacuum than the lukewarm nonsense Fauna said.
Fauna's script was something that only the most retarded ESLs would take as offensive.
Anybody with even a basic grasp of the english language would identify it as neutral corpospeech, which is offensive in its own right, but not for the reasons you're whining about.

Again, if Fauna wanted to hurt Cover, she would've actually said something damaging like the ex-nijis did. Hell, current holos say worse shit about the company all the time.
In the end, you're actively searching for something to get mad at because somebody left for a reason that wasn't health related.

>>111656511
I don't hate shachi, I just don't watch her.

I just lowkey wanted her to leave vtubing forever but she's crawling back little by little.

>>111659474
>Fauna's script was something that only the most retarded ESLs would take as offensive.
Guess what a large demographic of Fauna's fanbase is.

>>111658827
The truth would have been to say she's leaving to make babies with a former co-worker

>>111659587
mindbroken, 2 more weeks

>>111659496
of course you did phasefag

>>111659474
I'm not sure how "maybe I'll come back if Cover lets me" is supposed to look bad in any sort of vacuum. Affiliate has always been a cope graduation, obviously if she is gone she is not coming back. Ironically only ESLs could take it as some sort of bad statement instead of something hopeful (no appearances in the future -> maybe appearances in the future can only be a "good" thing)
There is nothing ESL about pointing out that the reaction to Fauna's statement was far more negative than the ones for the other girls and that her statement facilitated that. Should it have been? Well, we can continue to debate that but I have already pointed out the reaction that actually happened, with proof, without getting into the moral judgement of whether she deserved that reaction or not.
Also, I am actually pretty neutral on Fauna in the end. I actually dislike saplings way more because they were the ones stirring up shit and then pretending it was all false flaggers and it never happened, while also dragging other girls into arguments about Fauna and using them as shields for her when arguing with obvious antis.

>>111659615
2 more weeks until what?

>>111659645
>if Cover lets me
implies that Cover was the one who decides if she has a place there, as well as implies that there's a serious chance that they will refuse, which then implies that she was forced out.
Is it a stretch? Sure, but it still takes less steps than "I want to keep working as a vtuber" as it directly puts the spotlight on cover potentially refusing her return.
In the end, the whole thing is retarded, and from what I've seen those types of members were excised when she left Holo, thank god.

From what I've seen, most of, if not nearly all the manic, militant fans didn't seem to follow mooms or fauna into their next lives as they focus more on the brand than the members, despite the outburst, especially as time went on. We saw similar cases with Nijisanji's exes with Nina, Selen, and Pomu having more chilled out fans once leaving. (though Selen did drag some dramafags in for a bit, her case was unique and they fell off pretty quick)

>>111659697
your illusions will manifest

>>111645192
Your point being?

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1542&v=gxNFbw7N8jo&feature=youtu.be
Is this NTR?

>>111661433
Oh my god

Kronii deflection thread?

>>111662452
Nah, this thread was posted before that,
Also, what the fuck is wrong with Korean gacha dudes?

>>111638069
Kek @ this thread
Napcucks are as manipulative as their oshi. Bae, Kronii and irys haven't mentioned her since her departure. While 2 of them mentioned Sana and Mumei since. Bae and Kronii outright ignored her in fangames.
Doob unfollowed her on twitter and refollowed her after people started talking about it. They haven't interacted or mentioned each other since.
I don't know what she did to these people. It's like she fucking kicked their dogs. Although in holo's their case she basically tried to end their employer's existence over cock.
Also the Kiara shit is retarded. Kiara said herself that her and Fauna never spoke or interacted until 7 days to die. Nimi interacting with her after she fucked off because people are noticing her ex-colleagues might not like her anymore is borderline sociopath behavior.

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>>111659129
All the YouTube comments and chat messages calling Bae and Kronii "traitorous corpo shill bootlickers" are still there for all to see.
And people still call them that in certain subreddits that are dominated by napcucks.

>>111662452
Deflect from what nigga? Kronii did nothing wrong.

>>111662658
>And people still call them that in certain subreddits that are dominated by napcucks.
qrd?

>>111638291
>list of people who have dropped contact
I think my favorite aspect of you faggots are the ones that think they only ever have contact on stream or twitter.

why else would someone get married to one of the most narcissistic people ever hired by Cover unless they're also somewhat like them.

>>111662658
Already said it's you containment breaking troons

>>111652005
>inb4 troon gets thrown at me
anyways for me, it's because older men tend to have money and resources that younger men don't often have. I don't want to take care of an able bodied man unless he's my son. I want to be taken cared of by a guy i'm with. That's why I don't understand Fauna/Nimi. She's the breadwinner so why settle for a menhera NEET old man that is too lazy to even stream with effort.

>>111662658
>okbuddyholo sub
You just lost any credit you ever had (non)

>>111663332
>>111663353
>Didn't happen
>Okay it did happen but they aren't real
napcucks
I see you cucks are arguing in good faith

>>111662841
Lol
Lmao even

>>111663400
>okbuddyholo
>good faith
retard and redditor

Saplings are in full denial mode, neat.

>oh no they're on to me I posted the most unserious fucking sub in existence

>>111661433
No? Shes not talking about marriages here.

>>111664706
She was referencing her vtubing career. How she broke her oath to hololive, her genmates and saplings to marry a middle aged failed male vtuber

>>111663464
>>111663510
Nigga I could dig up every single instance of you napcucks attacking Bae and Kronii and you'd still say it never happened
There's no point to arguing with you fags. I'm just informing newfags of her deeds.

>>111665405
by using okbuddy LMAOOOOOO
keep fighting ghosts all the napcucks are on towa I just love seeing you retards come up with even more silly shit

>>111665455
>all the napcucks are on towa
Then why are you relentlessly white knighting her? You know she's fucking vesper right?

>>111665493
i could not care less who she's fucking buddy, i'm only making fun of you for thinking anything posted on okbuddyhololive is credible LMAO it's literally a competition of brain damage over there, you'd do well

>>111663500
atleast they aren't as bad as sabacucks

>>111661208
>Your point being?
We don't see Fauna hanging out with current Holo's on their alts.

>>111638069
Asian women hate white women to an absurd degree. Hafus are even worse.

>>111661433
Only if you remove the context of her talking about a fictional paladin character from her goon book? Which is something this board loves to do I guess, take things out of context.

>>111665958
Cope more cuckling

>>111665974
Also a typical response for this board.

>>111639268
>only associate with other women who are on her level and fell for the modern day scam

How's the eighth abortion from this month's line of 40 one night stands with guys you probably never even got the name of?

>>111639268
Sourest of grapes.

>>111666052
This is why I don't trust EN tuubers.

>>111666466
He was making fun of the OP. Reading comprehension.

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>>111638069
It's a mystery

>>111666987
Did I stutter? I stand by what I say.

>>111667063
Why are jeets always so angry all the time?

>>111667108
Being brown is a terrible thing

>>111666277
That's like 70% of the antis in existance.

>>111665809
So irys and kronii despise mumei, got it

>>111668305
Yes and with good reason.

>>111668415
You're genuinely retarded

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How much money did you actually lose to her.

Be honest.

>>111668563
0 I don't give to millionaires

>>111668788
>millionaires
retard there's no way

>>111668563
Nothing
Only retarded simps give any money to any streamer

>>111668823
5 digit streamers for years absolutely should be a millionaire and we have to seriously ask some questions about covers business model if they're not

>>111669063
even if she made a million, she is gonna lose almost half of that to taxes

>>111669098
Ppl doing their numbers are living in mansions in LA and NY, I'm not talking about a single million

>>111665309
>How she broke her oath to hololive
That is a baffling amount of corpo bootlicking even for a unicorn. Cover could have found some compromise and expecting Fauna to not have children so that she could be a vtuber is absurd. Hololive is going to struggle to keep any of their EN talents longer than 10 years if they have this unrealistic idol requirement.

>>111668823
Yea, it's true. The salary from Holo was about what a well paid wagie made. The big bump came during the debut of Nimi. She made millions. Even after the planned marriage announcement and plummet in viewers, she still cashes out $200K a year.

>>111669144
Most vtubers are from the California coast. Makes sense many are trying to be in contact with Hollywood type people out there. Poorfag vtubers are struggling to make the $3k per month rents. If they were smart they would relocate to Texas to be on the convention tour and pay $0 in income taxes, or Florida which has $0 income tax. Both have dirt cheap property too. Oh but Nimi can't drive so I guess she is stuck.

>>111669144
you act like they are Paul brothers or Speed. They dont make a fraction of a fraction of that.

>>111668305
Funnily enough they have actually acknowledged that Mumei existed since she graduated.
Fauna on the other hand...

>>111670043
She fucks vesper. They should have fired her on the spot.

>>111668823
>retard there's no way
We know the value of her home KEK
She left hololive as a millionaire

>>111670077
>Florida
>dirt cheap property
if you want to live anywhere worthwhile in Florida (which is mostly Central/South) you're in for tough luck. Housing prices have increased the past 20 years. Texas is the best place to live currently if you want more for your buck.

>>111670185
Texas is pretty sweet. A lot of youtubers and pod casters went out there and built nice studios. I love the central location in DFW and being able to get anywhere in the country by car in 2 days or less or 5 hours or less by plane. You can spoil yourself on all sorts of conventions in the area and follow some tours.

>>111670077
Nimi is in a bum fuck nowhere suburb tho lmao

>>111670086
Paul brothers in 2026 holy fuck you are detached no wonder you are so retarded