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Don't let napcucks get away with lying
Total Members in AprilCalli: 6099Bijou: 4045Nimi: 3987Fuwamoco: 3763Cecilia: 3506Elizabeth: 3228Gigi: 3204Kronii: 2555Shiori: 2428Kiara: 2212Raora: 2064Ina: 2054IRyS: 2036Nerissa: 1906Baelz: 1381Dooby: 887Bonus JP #1: Pekora: 6430
>>111665810>Baelz: 1381KWABbratcucks, our response?
GRIM
>OP samefags three posts in a row, which means he's a Kroniifag>His third post has him curiously comparing Nimi to Biboo and Shiori, but not to Kronii.Damn... I wonder wh-ACK>A third of the length>More CCV>More chatters>More membesKronii in shambles
>>111665810>Nimi 4k>Kronii 2.5krumao
Il piccolino coreanino.Mamma mia! Che coso minuscolo, piccino.
>>111665762Napcucks will never fucking recover
>>111665810So, why did Dooby decide to unperson Nimi again? Sounds like she's the one that got fucked.
>Miko 36k>Pekora 24kKek know your place blue leech pekora
>>111665877>>111665877if u stream little u have low number, not that she got that many active members chatting anyway though.
>>111665810Nice numbers for Nimi.
>>111665998>With a side of Nimiseethe
what triggered the napling today?
Cola tastes so good, no wonder people get fat
>>111665810>Dooby: 887This was a pioneer of holoEN....
>>111666042Nimi mogging Kronii
>>111666042Kronii getting BTFO
>>111666060and Biboo mogging Nimi, so ?
That's good and all she still lost that role LMAO!!!!!!
No seriously wtf is this art?
>Dooby: 887How many members would Ame have RIGHT NOW if she didn't leave?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpUAZWAm2GQ
>>111666042They are losing the only cope metric left because Biboo is unstoppable. Being a napling is just humiliation after humiliation.
>>111666042Reddit lostNijisisters lostHolostars lost Unicorns numberchads and hololive wonAll you can do is seethe and samefag
>>111665810>Nimi has more members than everyone else in promise (Other than maybe Shachi)
Kronii lost
>>111666078More than 900
>>111665810there's literally no way to tell how many members someone has unless they say it themself and it's definitely not that low for all of them
>>111666088I enjoy a lot of decadent things that aren't liquid, like caramel shortbread, I have 3 of them left
>>111665741Previous:1st thread>>1116598942nd Thread>>111659875
>>1116660781500 bare minimum
Whenever you read news about Hololive doing bad just remember that they literally chose to WASTE their once-in-a-lifetime peak profits earned during the covid lockdown on the gigantic failure that was Holostars and bleed it for years instead of investing in their already established vtuber girls because they wanted to be like Nijisanji
>>111666077
Ngl whenever cuckposter and Napling larpers raid the thread i unironically stop reading shit here. Shit becomes really annoying
>>111664490Black guy here, don't use activator if you don't know what you're doing, just go to a stylist bruh.
>>111666078She had 3 streams all month, so you won't exactly get full picture with that, because these statistics are about members who chatted and gift subs, still smol number though obviously, nimi just had that in one stream, while dooby had 3 streams to get that :D
>>111666140and holoearth*
>>111666144that's why you just have them all filtered, thread moves at 1 post per 5 minutes
>>111666158Holoearth didn't replace a hololive generation, retard. Go homoseethe on Reddit.
>555 is 67% of 830>2555 is 64% of 3987Yes, sounds about right. Kronii would need over a third more of the members she has to compete with Nimi.
>>111666158holoearth is infinitely more profitable than the homos
>>111665810Mori, Bijou and Nimi's numbers all went up compared to March btw
>>111666146I have a lot of faith in myself.
the fags who can't see this post are gaynimi
>>111666184I dont think she needs that. I would imagine Kronii is wealthier overall.
>>111666235Sana mogs both
>>111666176I miss my filters u_u and too lazy to do them again
>>111665810>First place to the holo on strike>Third place to the exholoCover... Don't piss Biboo off. Treasure that brat.
>>111666245Just copypasta the instructions and ask Claude to write them for you,
Reminder that this happened
>>111665956>losing to nimikronies explain?
>>111665810Does this data actually come from somewhere that can be trusted or is it BS assumptions like usual?
>>111666176between my filters for certain patterns and images the thread is comfy af. I laugh my ass off when I find a wall of stubs
only losers would actually filter posts in this thread kek
>>111666338keep screaming into the void nigger, I won't read your mental diarrhea
*2026 MAY 7TH FINAL UNIQMEMBERSNUM EN TALLY*>1020: Ina (Hololive English)>974: Bijou (Hololive English)>830: Nimi (Indie)
What are the chances that some of this Kronii seethe is from Korean nationalists who found this thread and decided to larp as napcucks?
>please please please read my posts please reply to me please #SupportARMIS
>>111666008I just want to say thank you for keeping making anti-Pekora posts.Most 35Ps are just too nice to do this online. However, there're just too many no-life and vile nousagis online (like oshi, and like fans in a way), and seeing posts like yours is kinda relieving, knowing that there's still someone willing to fighing the good fight.
>>111666354Napcucks... your tally...
I miss the raspberry awards
>>111666382same actually
>>111665741That's a cute clock
>>111666354>Didn't even finish fucking secondThis is why I tell you that the guy trying to push this angle is a straight up Nimi Anti, no one would expose Nimi to just getting laughed at every day
>>111665956OOF
>>111665741>Nimi Won>Kronii Won>Holo Won>Panko's Black Boyfriend (Ricaradio) Won>NITTA Won>Randon X Pippa Won>Jelly's JP and SEA boyfriends Won
>>111666120>>111666313he's making all of it up since there's no source for the number of members
Can people please stop reminding me Nimi beat Kronii in CCV, members and chatters? It has to be a Kronii anti, at this point.
>>111666412https://holochatstats.info/membership_countsNewfag
>>111666443OH NO NO NO NO
Miko wonpigwhora lost
>>111666313https://holochatstats.info/membership_countsIDK how accurate it is but its just about members who chatted and gift subs, so its not exactly reliable metric if u want to know how many subs there truly is anyway, however if u want to know active members in chat during the month maybe it can tell u that assuming its accurate. Just important to remember people who streamed too little get big debuff.
>>111666313You know the answer. If a real source for member count came out it would be plastered all over the thread with screenshots
>>111665810>Baelz: 1381You would think that snake eyes being a big hit would have done something to her numbers
>>111666358It’s more believable that it’s a napling doing it on the korean forums and here
>>111666443Nimi's stream went for ONE HOURKronii's stream went for THREEAbsolutely MOGGED. Holy FUARK.Even the CCV is higher.
>>111666447:/
>>111665810you can tell this is bullshit becouse there is no way pekora has only 6400 members.
My wife is ending
>>111666500No shit, retard. Obviously Nimi has more than just 4k members. It's to check the proportionality of members, not the sheer number.
Most of these "people" don't even know the power of the Home Depot. They actually pay real humans to do simple tasks for them.
>>111666494Please delet
>>111666524so it's not a reliable metric, nice to know we agree
Kronii got embarrassed by gooks AND by Nimi
Clocktards...
>>111666489YT views are the least valuable real metric we track /here/, given that unique members is not a real metric
>>111666543She can redeem herself
>>111666540>My oshii's chat is just very shy uguuuudyrbi?
>>111666515why is everyone playing this game again? did it get an update?
Sex with Gozaru.
>>111666524the post "total members in april"
>>111666524I remember checking the comments on Mooms Grad VOD and being surprised at how many 2 to 3-plus year members had, like only 2 or 3 comments on her channel.
going all out like this because of a single day says a lot
I'm watching Kaela be autistic while trying to describe adult films in the game
>>111666564As a lurker, yes, fuck chat
>>111666599There's lurkers in every chat. Learn what a sample size is.
>>111666579detroit become slop became a meme not too long ago in japan
>>111666606It doesn't count when my oshi is losing. I'm a manbaby so please understand
>>111666606>>111666634you really don't need to reply to yourself like this dude
>>111666640seethe
Nimi wonnered
LMAO all brown shitskins here smell like shit
>>111666443nimi got mogged in super chats though
>>111666655>Not showing timezoneSelamat pagi
>Nimi's members numbers went up from March to AprilHehehehehehehe
1M DORYYYYAAAA
>>111666687Still no post on their EN twitter. Why are they so scared considering this was an issue with an english VA
>>111666142Jesus, you guys really aren't beating the ball and gun allegations
All Holos are white as snow.
>>111666687even though the gook fans are whiny bitches the company made the right decision, only listen to their paying fanbase keeping the game alive and not the completely dead english players
>>111666705They had to concede to the KR fans because they're absurdly touchy and will burn shit down once they decide they have a casus belli.But they want to minimize damage with EN fans because they apparently know this is unfair and holofans won't let it go without pushback.They're in a no-win really, the fundamental problem is deep issues and divides in Korean culture, it's much bigger than just this particular situation.
*MAY 7TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*>10,059: Shiori (Hololive English)>9,761: Bijou (Hololive English)>9,575: Ina'nis (Hololive English)>5,559: Nimi (Indie)>5,012: Nerissa (Hololive English)Looking really interesting. Gold for Shiori Novella's insect ranking stream alongside Baelz, Silver for Koseki Bijou's Gunpla building handcam stream, Bronze for Ninomae Ina'nis' playthrough of Tomodachi Life.>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)Bijou = 12pShiori = 8pRaora = 7pKronii, Cecilia = 5p[Gigi, Cecilia], Kiara, Nerissa = 2pIna'nis, Nimi = 1p
>>111666795MAY 2026 EN GOLD5/1 - Bijou - Bayonetta 2: 6,5895/2 - Raora - Unarchived Karaoke: 9,6445/3 - Shiori - Birthday Stream: 14,2995/4 - Bijou - Portal 2: 9,1895/5 - Bijou - Powerwash Simulator 2: 8,2475/6 - Kronii - Resident Evil Requiem: 9,4625/7 - Shiori - Insect Ranking: 10,059PER COMPANY7x: Hololive EnglishHOLOLIVE ENGLISH HAS WON 60 GOLDS IN A ROW.PER STREAMER3x: Bijou2x: Shiori1x: [Kronii, Raora]THE 60TH CONSECUTIVE GOLD BELONGS TO SHIORI NOVELLA.
The Hantavirus will save HoloEN
After Okayu ends proper, I'm going to watch Game Night (2018) and probably nap
LMAO some loser anti schizo was seething about his micro penis for 4 years
>>111666771>>111666763Yeah, they should disengage now and ignore everything. EN fans are not paying the bills, they can afford to lose them.
>>111666824MAY 2026 EN SILVER5/1 - Cecilia - Zatsu: 6,2015/2 - Raora - Celeste: 9,1105/3 - Kronii - No Man's Sky: 10,2185/4 - Kiara - Tomodachi Life: 6,8475/5 - Shiori - Powerwash Simulator 2: 6,1175/6 - Raora - Yapyap: 7,9065/7 - Bijou - Gunpla Building: 9,761PER COMPANY7x: Hololive EnglishPER STREAMER2x: Raora1x: Cecilia, Kronii, Kiara, [Shiori, Bijou]
Bettel won the Tumblr thing. Have homostars inclined?
>>111666763we’d be up in arms if Hololive almost hired a tranny in EN5, backed out on it before debut, and beggars and culture warriors on Twitter started attacking Cover despite not spending any money or watching streams. we’d rightfully shit on them for being worthless and not real fansultimately I don’t play this retarded game and nobody /here/ does based on their shit player count, what we think or say literally doesn’t matter
>>111666844the softness of that butt...
>>111666795>The EN tally is just Hololive with Nimi thrown in on occasion What do you even say anymore
whats with the lolis? Is it loli day?
>>111666854MAY 2026 EN BRONZE5/1 - Nerissa - Tomodachi Life: 5,8775/2 - Bijou - Portal: 8,6095/3 - Gigi - Creature Crafter: 6,4585/4 - Nimi - Dark Souls 2: 6,8425/5 - Nerissa - Powerwash Simulator 2: 5,5675/6 - Gigi - 13 Sentinels Aegis Rim: 7,5055/7 - Ina'nis - Tomodachi Life: 9,575PER COMPANY6x: Hololive English1x: IndiePER STREAMER2x: Gigi, Nerissa1x: Bijou, Ina'nis, Nimi
>>111666859Yeah, but the thing is that Kronii didn't do anything wrong, the ER fans are unreasonable
>>111666863(me)A lot of different varieties of streams last night. EN should try and have more days like this.
>>111666863Well...Rin Penrose qualified a few days ago...the first "normal" indie to qualify since Fillian in October....60 fucking Golds in a row, man, I'm starting to grow bored
>>111666925>Rin PenroseHow much did she get?
It's weird when a vtuber doesn't like lewd children
>>1116669725800, model reveal
>>111666976trvke
The Kronii stuff is starting to blow up outside of Korea,it's a matter of time before English news sites start to pick it up, wonder what will Cover do because this is the first time something like this involves a crossing of the streams, other than the Rushia situation (not that I'm saying it'll end up like that)
why the loli spam?
>>111666863>the global tally is just Hololive
>>111666906Hololive fans will inevitably punish Eternal Return to the extent they can, and the backlash has probably surprised them, 1m views and they're getting cooked in the comments.But fundamentally few people over here play the game. The biggest loss for the game itself is that having Kronii's RM voice a character in the game is a sneaky smart way to get a "Holo collab" without paying full price, they'll miss out on the promotion, good PR, and potential western players because their ESL fans sperged out over nothing.
>>111667004At least the Global one has like...1 or 2 Nijis for every 4 Holos.The EN Tally goes like this:There were a total of 183 (+42 compared to March) entries on the EN Tally, divided in:[Hololive English] - 164 (+44)[Indie] - 17 (-2)[Nijisanji English] - 1 (+0) [Densetsu.EXE] - 1 (+0)
lmao the eternal return twitter post got fucking community noted
>>111666795>Nimi = 1pThat 1p? randons.
>>111666906from our POV, she did nothing wrong. not the POV of their actual players. I watched the collab all those years ago and correctly deduced the game was shit but that also means that what they did will have no actual negative repercussions from me because I already decided not to waste my time on it
>>111667062>That boar is BOARING ha-hah...>This is an offense to the Korean peopleLike get the fuck out of here
>>111667062I'm out of the loop, are the gooks raging because she insulted the game or because they think kroni is woke, or both?
>>111667036I find it funny how the only ones other than holos qualifying for the tally are ex-holos plus mint with said ex-holos raid.
>>111666524>It's to check the proportionality of membersNTA, but outside of shitposting, that's retarded, too. There is no real, proven correlation between amount members participating in chat and total members count. It's not like there is any convenient thing like "Every girls usually have 20% of their members participating in chat on average". Having more members in chat doesn't reflect anything more than... amount of members in chat.That's why we've never cared about it over years until the unique-member-in-chat guy pop'd up
>>111667009Apparently the EN VA talent lead didn't even know it was kronii's rm until it all blew up in their faces with the KR side sperging out. Now it's just a pure humiliation ritual for any kr fans of the game since everyone basically is calling them retards and responding to their meltdowns with pinching emojis
>>111666997wtf does cover need to do this has nothing to do with kronii and it's not even negative to her RM
>>111665741>went back in time and made every korean dick 3 inches shorter than they were supposed to bewhy did she do it
>>111667090The Koreans are mad because of the bad pun and anyone pushing it outside of Korea just doesn’t like Kronii because she’s incredibly based and they are chuds
That boar doesn't look entertaining at all, you could say it's boar-ing haha
>>111666972>sheit's mister
>>111667120this is what /#/ likes
Any good Hiro Shinosawa?
>>111667090they THINK she insults the game, it's notable that she actually didn't
>>111667001why not?
>>111666687We're killing the va that ends up replacing kronii with hammers
>>111666997what reality are you living in where this matters so much
>>111667090she insulted the game which they hate more than normal especially because she is a woman>>111667082that’s how they think. as a lifelong player of two of starcraft, I unfortunately know a little too much about how retarded they are online…
>>111667046you just know kronii is getting off to this
>>111667114You’re being obtuse this is because of a specific kronii stream 4 years ago
In an alternate universe, Ina got that sponsorship and made the bad puns and got her art removed from a bad game because of it
>>111666456Kek
>>111667110>Apparently the EN VA talent lead didn't even know it was kronii's rm until it all blew up in their faces with the KR side sperging outI'm 99% sure this is lying to save face with their fans having the meltdown, they definitely knew, their statement on that part and the way they described the whole story seems sus. I'm no expert on these Asian businesses and their weirdo ways so I could be wrong, but I call bullshit.
>>111667009I haven't really gotten involved at all. The goal is clearly to upset Kronii. If not then her fans.The reasons such things manifest in this thread because this is kind of where >we circle the wagons, or I guess Garden in this instance.This is definitely not the era of >most influential though, it's just still the only place for the small dogs and monkeys to bark at Hololive fans.It's funny to me that its about a video game, I'm not sure I could commit to arguing about it if I tried
>>111666687What a trash note, that literally only ads like 25% of the context
>>111667171Natty
>>111667110Dunno how they missed that fact just google dottovu and kronii hololive is like the second result
The situation reminds me too much of the Miko harassment where Nijiniggers endlessly come up with bullshit mental gymnastics to twist into "moral offenses".This behavior is inherently evil and holochads need to stomp it the fuck out wherever it appears regardless of the circumstances. It's about the principle to me.
>>111667181I'm not involved either, and I'm not in the comments replying, because while I think they're retards and I'd circle the wagons around Kronii, I also know I have no leverage because I don't play Korea's slop games.I'm talking about the fanbase at large, who are battering them.
>>111667148The gook gender wars remind me of the west in like 2012
>>111667201based
koreans are so mad they're trying to hard doxx kronii
Ricecels proving why their women go for White guys once again
>>111666443slop game always gets more engagementalso quality > quantity
I was only pretending not to be racist
>>111667201>nijiniggersnijiniggers AND cuckfaggys*FTFY just look at how many antis seething at Miko got exposed as a cuckfaggy in the end, it's very pathetic really
>kronii dramaNot my oshi Not my problem
sigh vtubing these days is all just drama you can't even escape it if you just watch holo
>>111667090People that think it's because of the pun are stupid. They went after her because she's a westernized korean. The boar thing is the best thing they could find to get her fired.The company would have bent the knee no matter what angle they used to attack her. Korean incels have destroyed companies over even pettier shit. Their money is keeping these games afloat. She's probably never getting a VA role in a korean or chinese game ever again because the incels will now always cancel her because she called them out and korean and chinese companies only care about their bottom line.
My wife ended, btw this is what she sounds likehttps://youtu.be/J49meNQ_CPI
This would’ve never happened if Kronii voice acted Lost Ark instead
so Kronii won or lost?
>>111667275The mother of EN VTubing is fucking ProjektMelody be glad that HoloEN came to offer an alternativeENVYTubing is the standard, HoloEN is the exception that became a monopoly.
>>111666687You just know dramatubers and certain news sites are dying to cover this story but can't without talking about kronii's rm
>>111667036the only question for the EN tally is when Saba is going to end the streak...
So did Kronii get fired from this va job or what
Why is she doing VA stuff tho is hololive not paying their talents enough
>>111667259Pretty much this
>>111667295Kronii won, notKronii lost, gook incels lost. End result: she will never graduate
>>111667316that's her thing before holo
>>111667295millions of 4 inchers are impotently squirting in frustration because of her words so i guess it depends on perspective
good thread
>>111667309Since God is a holofag, I bet my balls Saba will come back on the day of a 3D Live or a big event and she'll have to settle for a Silver*JANUARY 18TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*>23,212: FUWAMOCO (<3) (Hololive English)>16,608: Saba (Indie)
>>111667316Yea half of EN have side jobs. Funny enough all the Myth members that did are the ones that stayed
>>111667308I rely too much on my twitter feed because its great for everything except cunny apparently, a hebe is the first thing I found in a reasonable time
>>111667326getting angry over a pun in a language you don't understand, then sticking by your anger after people explain is really something else
>>111667275I'm so glad I only watch Hololive and don't care about anything outside of Hololive including RM shit so I don't have to care or see any of this shit.
sex with fillies
>>111667316>why is she doing VA work without paying cover a cut?
>>111667308What anime
I don't usually post here. Is it usually this cunny?
>>111667304No, they won't cover this because Kronii is in the right.
>>111665810Bae....
>>111667349This is sfw btw
>>111667364yes
>>111665810graduate everyone below 2k. embarrassing
>>111667333>loli horse girlnow imagine loli futa horse girl
>>111667364Some people have posted actual CP. I don't know who does it. Is it selenfag, kiaraschizo or whom? I want to know when to leave next time.
>>111667364its gatekept less, post cunny from any franchise its tolerable
>>111666042Kronii rejecting korean men and pledging herself to Caucasioids
>>111667416>I want to know when to leave next time.Why
That boar that i just easily defeated is truly a masterpiece by the dev team. You can really since the challenge and dedication in every movement as it charges at you in an easily dodged straight line. I'm grateful to the dev team for creating this boar specifically.
>>111666997Cover will do nothing and say nothing, this doesn't involve them and they really shouldn't and cannot step in.
>>111667450>You can really since the challenge and dedication
>>111666997>wonder what will Cover do because this is the first time something like this involves a crossing of the streamsThey'll do jackshit. This only benefits them. If all of this had happened within hololive they'd probably strongarm the other company into not being retarded.It shows holomem that staying in the company offers them benefits they don't have on their own.
>>111667316>>111667356Doing VA stuff is her comfort hobby
>>111666859True but in this case turns out the "tranny" was a cute real woman after all and it was just a retarded rrat spread by schizos.
>>111667532Great timing too to remind Mori who's the boss
Honestly, the thing I dislike the most about this whole thing is that they're punishing her based one something that, by all accounts, should NOT related to her other job.Imagine doing the same thing for NotIna, but because of something she said as Ina.That just doesn't sit right with meAlso HOLY HELL WHAT IS THIS CAPTCHA MAN
>111667572grim post
>>111667594Are you going to cry about it? At the end of the day those incels are paying their bills.
Kaela's been having a strong month so far
>>111667532>they'd probably strongarm the other company into not being retardedWhat do think Cover would do about it lmao, it takes them forever to deal with antis domestically who harass talents for years and you think they'd strongarm a foreign company for dropping a holo from a VA role?
>>111667594>Imagine doing the same thing for NotIna
>>111667090Anon, Kroniis is a misogynistIf anything, she'd have been their ally lol
>>111667001to spook brits and muslims
>>111667532THIS
I'm pretty skeptical of narrative about>evil korean incelsafter spending 5 years surrounded by>evil holocorn incelnarratives
>>111667594I have become a master of the captcha but now I have forgotten how to do numbers
>>111667628Sueing for a clear breach of contract is more trivial tha suing internet randos for saying mean words.
Schizoronie hereKronii already moved onTheir shit games is dying anywayTheir loss
>>111667532I doubt things would have been different, the other company practically had no choice, in some way this is kinda close to the BA drama from last year in the sense that the company can't afford to upset their current costumers for whatever reason, be it retarded or not.
>Schizoronie hereHow about Scronie for short
you know pedos go to hell right anons
>>111667677>already moved on>cancelled today's stream and had kroma write the message about the new song releasing for her
>>111667684At the very least if this had happened within hololive other companies would reconsider working with them because at any point they could fuck them over and cost them moneyNow they just screwed over some canadian nobody who can't do anything about it
>>111667656>clear breach of contractDo you think most entertainment jobs don't have clauses related to damaging the reputation of the product?>suing internet randos for saying mean wordsUnironically easier in Japland, their defamation laws are insane
>>111667636This one is straight porn.
>>111667711If you can't even look then why live
>>111667353Well, KR will now be put in 2# right after CN in terms of shit fanbase
>>111667295they're not evil, just have the most fragile ego ever
Miko defeated the rabbit leech once again
How come BA fans are cool while ER fans are a bunch of cry babies? Aren't both games Korean
>she won>doesn't post lewd
>>111667711speaking from experience?
>>111667610I mean, our incels are paying the girls' bill as wellIt's just our side good their side bad desu
>>111667746yeah maybe but I remember hearing a lot about fragile insecure threatened incels who wouldn't accept dabois as a suitable replacement for EN3 so at this point I'm biased towards whoever's getting that accusation pointed at them
>>111667781from software is a japanese company. So is bandai namco
This is what my oshi sounds likehttps://youtu.be/bRp8fX44icE
>>111666997it might. Cover have gook investors that might want Kronii's head and they'll make sure it will happen through shareholder primacy.
>>111667642Do you think that their reaction to the boar pun is reasonable? you can go watch the clip. You're not operating with some sort of intangible here, judge for yourself one way or another.
>>111667633why did you say brits twice?
>>111667831They're getting a bottle of water, NOT mineral.
Nimi BTFO Kronii
>>111667711hell/10
>>111667831>Korean incel gamers are cover shareholders Go be retarded somewhere else
>>111667831lollmao
>>111666795This may well be the first time Shiori has won multiple golds in a single month since her debut month.
>>111667642well scale is different, its a country of 50million and its probably around 100 people seething
>>111667842Do you think it's reasonable to hulk out and shit the comment section when holostars appear on the anniversary stream? This sort of thing always comes from a long history of provocation.
Do you think this will damage Holo's rep in KR as a whole?Because if it does, boy I'm sure SOMEONE will be very upset about it
>>111667895>hulk out and shit the comment sectionimageboard
>>111667909Let me ask the real fans. They said kimchi bugolgi kpop
>>111667909Yes anon, all of Korea plays Eternal Return. It's their national video game, it even has holidays dedicated to it.
>>111667909the gacha is on the verge of EoS nobody fucking cares besides pissed off gook players
is a gyaru cunny called something specific?
Can you retarded cunny spammers at least post on topic vtubers if you're going to waste image slotsDaily reminder that most people on this board are normal and attracted to women
>>111667859when was the last time Nimi got a 5view stream kek
>>111667884Yup.The last time Shiori Novella had won two or more Golds was August...2023.If Shiori wins at least one more Gold, it will be her best month ever
>>111667793really? I never heard thatand why would they be a replacement if they're clearly a different branch with different names
>>111667968>mad at cunny
>>111667909The people raging at Kronii probably already hated her
>>111667968That 37 votes? All me
>>111667909That fucking game is literally dead anon, nobody gives a shit
>>111667968gay retard
>>111667968uh oh british melty
>>111667866there might not be, but gook investors will feel uneasy that Hololive is harboring a brand risk that can potentially ruin their Korean expansion.
>>111667968i don't find mumei fappable but am attracted to her
When was the last time Nimi mogged Kronii in CCV?
>>111667968Is this nigga new here?
>>111666997Wait what the fuck happened, I missed this. Can I get a QRD?
>>111667895what did Kronii do to "provoke" a bunch of Korean gamers? she made a harmless boar pun.Relations between Hololive and holostars fans got bad because there were countless blatant attempts to change/fuck with Hololive over the years by forcing their inclusion. Hololive fans became intolerant of their inclusion in shit because Cover demonstrated that they'd take a mile if people tolerated an inch. The situation isn't analogous at all. Also>hulk outexpressing how retarded it is that Advent got ignored in hololive's own anniversary streams while Armis got heavily featured isn't "hulking out"
>>111667924I couldn't find the stream in five minutes and gave up so I'm not going to screencap it. You should remember this.
>>111667968You can not believe polls like this when Kiara is at the top
>>111667848to be fair almost all of 'western" europe is full of them. poland stronk
>>111667711Not for raping drawings
>>11166802212 hours ago
>>111667968Seeing as how this thread is flooded with ai cuck shit usually, maybe relax faggot.
>>111668022Last night
>>111668032How am I supposed to remember something you've made up
>>111668022Yesterday
>devs had to place more value on the whales that keep funneling money>certain vtubers had to place more value on the whales that keep funneling money>backlashidgi
>>111668009>>111668011>>111668017>>111668024>>111668036>Pedophiles when confronted with the fact that most people aren't pedophilesUh oh pedo melty
>>111667968retard
>>111668041>>111668046>>111668052Oh...
>>111667909This drama was stupid even for Koreans, I'm seeing messages from them feeling ashamed of these retards
>>111668027it's not "Kronii", it's the other side of their culture war, and they've done way worse things than shoehorning holostars in where they don't belong. Kronii just got hit in the crossfire.
>>111668013Yeah, a fucking dying gook game is gonna harm expansionYou know they've had like 20 controversies and are only reclining in player base after repeatedly fumbling domestically and overseas, right?
>>111668057I just can't believe people actually find Kiara attractive
>outfit reveal as a video premiereWell that's a first...
>>111667966mesugaki?
>>111667968
My oshi sounds like thishttps://youtu.be/Ed84kNmkNDc
>>111668053But they don't, the game is one bad month away from EOSThey had the chance to get new, and very wealthy, fans, botched it, and now both their fans and Holo's fans got absolutely nothing.
>>111668083>>111668036Kiara has one of the highest Porn to non porn fanart ratios
>>111668074So why are you making completely irrelevant arguments?It's irrational to sperg out at a Korean-Canadian VA over a boar pun at her other job from 4 years ago because you're mad that you have to do forced conscription and can't reproduce.It's not irrational to get mad that Hololive EN got fucked over publicly for many years so dubai could get more exposure.Why are you equating the two?
>>111668105Show me
>>111668057>most people aren't pedophilesanon but it's the opposite.Most pedos won't say they are pedos.Videos of young girls showing themselves off semi-nude on YouTube have millions of views.
Will the hantavirus give a rise to covid 2 and create the 2nd vtuber golden age?
i was here yesterday (i posted the images about the EN VA director tallking about it), in a turn of 24 hours i dont know what the fuck happened but this shit EXPLODED, ive been playing eternal return basically every day for the past month, i never expected this shit. the NA/EU/SEA/OCE side. something called the >BOAR BRIGADEis happening in ALL SERVERS, EVERYWHERE THERES BOARS. IN GAME. I QUEUED UP AND I SAW 5 PEOPLE WITH BOAR-RELATED JOKE NAMES ITS FUCKING EVERYWHERE
>>111668102yes yes yes yes yes
>>111668131You don't fuck with Holofans that's rule number fucking one of the Internet since 2020SPECIALLY ProMyth
>>111668057sir, those are fictional children
>>111668083you must be gay if you don't, I can only legitimately cum for my Oshi and to Kiara, out of all vtubers.
biboo is underrepresented because they're afraid of getting outed as pedos.
>>111668129Kills too fast to become a pandemic
>dramabaits>lost to fucking Nimi
>>111668129No see >>111663957
>>111668129no because it's too deadly, won't spread as much as covid.
>>111668161
Kronii might actually be retarded for talking about this as Kronii
ToT
What causes this?
>>111668106what they saw>a westernized korean woman expressed contempt for the game and then got hired. that looked like all the other westernized korean foids who snuck shit into other games to own the incels. they're in an all-out culture war and there's no room to let something slide when doing so just invites the other side to do it more.
>off topic spamogeybros I'm a chad and this girl fell in love with me, I don't know bros, is she really ugly?https://litter.catbox.moe/tkgz0q.jpg (embed)
>>111667909I may be wrong but I don't believe there is much cross over between vtuber fans and this game's fans, as far as I know there aren't any grievances between hololive and korean fans, one could say that within hololive's fans SK has been positive bot in behavior and financially, Nerissa and Kiara have tried to build relations with SK personalities etc.In short it seems unlikely, this is just a subset of people from some random game that are looking for excuses to be upset, however that doesn't mean it's impossible because we have precedent with the Taiwan saga.
>>111668129it's more like Black Plague 2 and it only spread back then because europe is fucking filthy that rats roam freely.
>>111666925>Rin Penrose qualified a few days ago...the first "normal" indie to qualify since Fillian in October....>>111666972>How much did she get?>>111666982>5800, model revealAND WHAT A REVEAL!>WORSE REMODEL SINCE PIKAMEE!
>>111668204she looks cute
>>111668188Imagine sex with Riona, fuark
>>111668204You fucking took this from Tower didn't you
Why is everyone and their mom suddenly going to slopkomi
>>111668204The overbite is fixable, I say go for it. Looks like she's nice enough
>>111668183all she did was mention something that happened as Kronii though
>>111668204she's probably a vtuber. date her,
>>111668199I'm not the type who thinks Korean feminists are totally innocent in their insane confrontational online gender war, but if you take a pun about "boar-ing" while killing boar to be an attack on your dick size 4 years later, you're so far into a radicalized rabbit hole that you've twisted your own mind into a pretzel of retardation.Sorry anon, not gonna call these people rational in this fight
This is my oshi and this is what she sounds likehttps://youtu.be/n5CjrwnqIek
When's the next anycolor and cover earnings rep?
>>111668131funny thing is, the game is actually getting player boost from this looking steamcharts, kronii lost, dottovu lost, OWARI DA :)
>>111668207>normies go out more>nijifags in japan tend to be normies compared to holofanshantavirus will nijisanji's fanbase leading to hololive monopolizing the entire japanese market
Machu likes to dish out, but can't take it.
>>111668279hololive's should be soon, within the next week I believe
>>111668131>>111668148I think the powers are diminished from their peak, but if I was some sort of schizo I'd still never fuck with Hololive on main. I recall that black rapper vtuber who attacked Ame and Suisei and went from super aggressive and defiant to fearful, simpering, apologetic, and broken in like a single week. I still want to know what Hololive fans sent that guy in his DMs
EN5 any moment now
>one of the cunnyposters got purged
>>111668309Do those fans still watch Dooby or nah?
Is anything missing, it seems fine either way I'm not trying to point anything out
>>111668309It's not about what but the sheer number of DMs he got
>>111668281no anon, even with the new season 11 the average has been on the negatives for the last 30 days, its pre-season and people should be grinding the hell of out of the pass but with this shit its just going to speed EOS soon. s10 was horrible (they just added a bunch of half-assed bunny girl skins and called it a day), with the characters it was supposed to be like a breath of fresh air, now everything is gone to SHITE.
>>111668131Although I find it funny I don't think this is what Kronii would want
>>111668341Yeah ignoring Kobo, Hololive is once again handing Nimi a free slot.
Ela raided FBK
>>111668341?
>>111668362Ah sorry I don't speak Indonesian
>>111668341aw man I'm gonna be late for bibrys
>>111668374Kobo talks more english than indo on stream nowadays
>>111668360this went BEYOND anything kronii related, people have been mad at NN (Nimble Neuron) for AGES for neglecting the other 50% of the playerbase and pandering to retards online, cancelling whole skin lines, not fixing game errors, this is not much of a "wow VTUBER ISSUE" but you have the entire playerbase mad as fuck
>>111668341Yeah Kronii needs to farm her drama
>>111668369Sometimes streams that are confirmed aren't put on the dex
>>111668362Gigi is playing a game that isn't a debuff
>>111668393?
>>111668281leave it to retarded nigger holo antis to clap about shit numbers lmfao
>>111668341is ROLLERCOASTER TYCOON® 2: TRIPLE THRILL PACKfun?
>>111668341what about the boys?
Among Korean VTubers, Isegye Idol has become much quieter these days because they are still receiving criticism. However, their fandom is still very active.Meanwhile, Stellive continues to grow, especially compared to Isegye Idol. In fact, Stellive surpassed Isegye Idol in Korea quite a long time ago. To be precise, it was more like Isegye Idol stepped down on their own.Honestly, maybe the reason Kronii received so much criticism in Korea was because some people needed a new target to attack after Isegye Idol became quieter.
>>111668406You grandpas need to understand that your fucking 100 year old games are debuff except if they're nintendo games
>>111668418Please tell me they are all fired
>>111665810
>>111668389I listen to this often at leasthttps://youtu.be/50Ura_ZcSvY
>>111668429You're a retard
>>111668416rollercoaster tycoon is good, no idea about the second one though
look at the first suggestion that shows up.
Where the fuck is Nimi's frame?
>>111668429when is this? she should play all of them
>>111668446it shows how flawed your "TOTAL MEMBERS" numbers are
Dokky droppedhttps://x.com/FishyFishyDoto/status/2052382260997791914
>>111668461Probably still numberfagging and figuring out how to save her channel now that she resorted to reaction content
>>111668481Kek yeah you're a retard
>>111668487>resorted to reaction contentPretty sure she's trying to capture the NL audience these days
Nimi lostSaba lostShachi won
>>111668446>>111668493No you are, since the member count site is only an estimate and there is literally no fucking way to know how many members the girls have
>>111667947Eternal Return may have mostly Korean players, but it is not exactly a popular game in Korea.If there is any game that could be called a “national holiday game” in Korea, it is still StarCraft. More recently, League of Legends has taken that place.
It's pretty funny how Kronii used to be confused about her gender when she was younger just because she was a little bit tomboyish. Seeing how she has a woman moment almost once a week is easy proof that she is fully a woman and nothing else.
>>111668471 (me)she shouldn't play Harvest Moon though
>>111668419they have to lay low because the DJMAX and Airi Kanna shitshow are still hot over there.
>>1116684718 days ago. She'll start Luigi's mansion this friday evening. When she finishes it, she'll play kirby
>>111668511>only an estimateCorrect. Why are you crying over it?
What's the difference between a woman moment and a period?
>>111668512Sorry nigga I will put an /s at the end of my posts for you specifically from now on. /srs /nj /67
FBK is saying 6 7 and laughing
>>111668493>>111668446>Shows that any method to measure membership is incredibly flawed>FUCK YOUThe fact that JPs have significantly less should clue you in. Japs are less likely to talk in chat.You really believe that Pekora has less members than fucking Nimi?
>>111668482just reported this for directly linking Kronii to her RM, thanks
>>111668515The fact that you call this a woman moment makes you a nigger tbqhwyShe literally did nothing wrong
korean men kind of remind me of black women always looking for faults or enemies
>>111668524That reminds me, I get paid tomorrow
>>111668532>projectingmelty
should kanade be conscripted to the army
>>111668544>You really believe that Pekora has less members than fucking Nimi?Did anyone claim that?
>>111668549reacting to it as kronii is a woman moment
>>111668337he died for our sins, amen.
>>111668343You cunny spammers can't even identify cunny.She's sporting massive childbearing hips and A cups.
>>111668390Yeah, but are they the paying one?It's the same as LADS, the playerbase is insane, but they pay REALLY well
Nimi graduated because Cover was stopping her from streaming resident evil and tomodachi life
>>111668576Only if she has a cock
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like it
>>111668532You were the one who started crying first when you got proven wrong>>111668446>You're a retard
>>111668537Period caused pain and hormonal fluctuationsHormonal fluctuations and pain causes woman moments. Note: Not all woman moments are caused by periods but all periods cause woman moments.
>>111668582No since it directly relate to something she did as Kronii, you're like a tranny with the amount of estrogen you're displaying right now
The drama well is so empty that schizos has to outsource it from korean schizos nowadays
>>111668596none of them are paying that’s one of the reasons the game is dying
>>111668597she graduated because it was always her plan to leave after 3 years
>>111668482The plus of this situation is that people will stop asking for HoloKR
>>111668610You must be new
>>111668532>estimatemight as well go with vibes then
>>111668626wrong quote, amen
>>111668577It doesn't matter anyone using it as some serious metric instead of a wildly inconsistent meme should get laughed out of the thread.
>>111668647I vibe with 3k member for Kiara
>>111668593there's no hard rule on what makes a cunny. it's mostly based on intuition.
>>111668621but it has no effect on kronii, all she did was get holofags to witch hunt and burn a bunch of bridges for herself
>>111668635Proof?
>>111668663>>111668626
>>111668596>>111668631yes, i was going to say this. both sides are failing to retain revenue (even with gacha-fying the game and spamming skimpy outfit skins and ruining the theme of the game isnt helping), the averages are BLEEDING (even with the new season), the community was on its last droplet of hope and with this i fear its just ran out
https://x.com/hews__/status/2052396699004641680
https://youtu.be/axcAGi3b5W0
>>111668597She graduated because they fired the guy she was fucking because he refused to do the job he was hired to doAlso judging by the fact that out of all holos she joined the least cross branch events and poured no money into anything holo related it's pretty obvious her plan was always pumping and dumping hololive
>>111668675Damn you brownoid antis are so fucking stupid it's funnyWhat bridges nigger? the dead game with a shit fanbase bridges lolThe game is fucking dead and even in the na discord they're shitting on the devs
Kiara should have been a mesugaki
I wanted to see a holo play Mixtape...
>>111668719the insane gooks that will now hold a grudge and follow her everywhere
>>111668736I like her how she is
Mouse's sole reason to exist nowadays is drama and even there she flops.
>>111668719I have no horse in this game but she's never getting hired by chink or korean companies again. They always side with their customers. Who are incels.Simple as.
>>111668706I remember Raora Quote retweeted a drawing of her from this artist saying she was was honored to be drawn by them or something and she deleted it later, my guess its because the amount of porn this artist draws
>>111668757I do as well, but she should have been a mesugaki
>>111668756so literally what every hologirls deal with all the time>>111668769you're a braindead polnigger and no other companies gives a shit about eternal dead return lmfao
>>111668761she got the devs to apologize
>>111668691(me)the game depended on such things, they just had a collab with Guilty Gear Strive, and then Persona 5 just to try to climb some numbers back by pandering to the japanese, it FAILED. and now with this VA shit the EU/NA/OCE/SEA side got FUCKED in the ass, probably even the next character VA is going to be scrapped as well (the voice director said that theyre going to have to hire basically fiverr VAs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT1oO94-lqQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT1oO94-lqQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT1oO94-lqQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT1oO94-lqQalmost forgot the streamI also didnt ring the bell and push the like button for some reasonfixing it rn
>>111668736>>111668776Not making Irys and Kiara lolis was a good thing longterm because they would have graduated ages ago due to fucking up their voices.
>>111668714>poured no money into anythingGoing by this logic Saba is also a pump and dump scheme since she did 0 original content or outfits or anything for streams
how does a dyke like kronii have the worst women moments ?
Be aware that when no one is posting cunny my impulse is to post holos indiscriminately, which basically means hags
>>111668761She is the Peter Dinklage of indies
>>111668819Saba?Yes. 100%, Saba's VTubing career would be illegal if she had investors to respond to.
>>111668819>Going by this logic Saba is also a pump and dump scheme since she did 0 original content or outfits or anything for streamsYes
NAPCHADS WON
Kronii's Storm is a nice song. Nice sexy clock
>>111668827Me think you're desperate to blame her when she did nothing wrongMust be tought to have a tiny penis but that's not her fault
>>111668832what about a cunny hag
its time for cesilly-a immercute
>>111668827Being a dyke has nothing to do with women moments it's her korean genes that cause the intensity of her woman moments.XX chromosomes = FrequencyKorean genes = Amplitude
>>111668879do you mean like this
Anyone who thinks Nerissa has less members than gigarunts like Shiori, ERB and Raora are delusional
CC IS PREGNANT LMAO
>>111668800>you're a braindead polnigger and no other companies gives a shit about eternal dead return lmfaoYou're some tard that is unaware that korean incels have made a shitload of korean gaming companies bend the knee over even pettier shit because at the end of the day they're 99% of their customer base. And no amount of accusing people of being "polniggers" will undo that fact.
>>111668888What makes Ina immune?
CCs hormones are running wild apparently
>>111668911>911
>>111668911my bad
>>111668882that really is a ridiculously beautiful shot. CC's model is gorgeous.
I'm watching CC on my TV, she is pretty big
>>111668923She's going through clankertuberty
>>111668923some anon said he calculated CC was going to be ovulating this week...
>>111668936AND LOOK AT HER MOVES
>>111668920She is a hag
Ceci is my girlfriend and I love her very much please watch her streams so she can be happy I love her I love my precious Ceci
>>111668907shiori streams definitely does
>>111668967good post
>>111668967I'll pass
>>111668922
pew
>>111668907>holo vs holo
>people post cunny>thead instantly becomes betterwe should post cunny daily
>>111668923>>111593338
>>111668914>You're some tard that is unaware that korean incels haveYeah, i'm not a polniggerAlso you make no sense, why would X company give a shit about Y company (which is dead) do or doesn't doAnd at the same time who cares? korean gaming is shit and irrelevantSo Kroniiwins, tiny dick korean niggers lostSimple asI gotta assume you're some kind of seanigger hating koreans for being this invested in the question
>>111668936Blue was better
>>111668973>definitely does have a bunch of homos
We should all chip in $1 and hire Dottovu to voice act some lines
>>111669017
https://x.com/i/status/2052346799017599214LLD BROSSSSS
>>111668997the sneeze (almost sneezed) means her period is tomorrowconveniently she is taking a day off
>>111668410Is that supposed to be bad?
>>111669029BASED RISSA PLEASE STOP SHIPPING YOURSELF WITH HOMOSLEEVES
>Kronii got cancelled by her own kindkek
>>111669017why did the homocollabs go from weekly to once a month or less?
>>111668341Hmm with a buff enough stream nimi probably takes gold
>>111668998>It happened before and it will happen againshe's never working with a korean company again>FUCK YOU Why the fuck are you so fucking invested into white knighting her that you deny basic reality and get irrationally angry when someone points out that korean incels control the korean mobile gaming marketI'm telling you a simple fact. Don't reply to me if you're going to throw insults at me because you want reality to conform to your headcanon.
>>111669030>Since I’m divorcedJesus
>>111668920anger management classes desu
>>111668914Gooks make them bend the knee because 80% of their games are teetering on EoS because they either can't break into the global market OR they have scandal after scandal or scummy business practices and get written off (*cough* nexon *cough*) so the only thing keeping it afloat is the barely-breaking-even gook whales and dolphins
>>111668805>Persona 5Do they not know about the P5 curse?!
>gooks are now making fun of their own ilk by doing kronii phonk editshttps://youtube.com/shorts/wZvVEPBzh0g?si=aDv6p5bSrcS4JLVT
>>111668920Ina is probably a fucking demon against management and those who wrong herIt's like FWMC
>>111669030World health organization
Rie x FlayonEnna x Octavio Nitya x Hakka Nana x Jurard Pippa x Vedal
>>111669030nu Otsuka Ray
>>111669072na cc will raid gigi there no chance for her
>Ina is probably a fucking demonthis is true
>>111669070You know why
Cecilia doesn't streams....
>>111669070I told the girls to stop.
>>111669135I don't, that's why I ask
>>111669152based ESL
CC cute
Why does YouTube hate Pragramta and culling the streams like crazy?
>>111669172I think you do
>>111669030Otsuka Ray 2.0
Your holo vs holo for tonight
>you will never hit your shin on the open dishwasher door while grabbing a midnight snack because you are married to CC and she leaves everything open all the time because she is lazy and crazyWhy live
>>111669202I really don't
personally, my favorite tally was the cope tally where you only got on if you were sub 5k. it was kind of like watching curling. Shiori used to be the best curler but then she got too strong.
>>111669216
I think i may have ADHDwhen I have someone stream livethey just yab and I just hear women ramblingI literally cant remember a single anyone ever saybut if its a clip form then i do
>>111669221
holy yapping just start the game
>>111669249I asked btw
>>111669230Not happening because it would show that HoloID completely mogs phase in 2026
>>111669255shut the fuck up anon, hearing women talk is my hobby
>>111669214Let's see the views of each. It's a good gauge of popularity
>>111669199pragmata is shit to watch, no one wants to sit through 11 hours of sci-fi shooter just to see 15 minutes of diana being cute
>>111669265this but unironically
>>111669265lmao women speak nonsense 99% of the times
>>111668952https://litter.catbox.moe/mgdhzxw8a9er5qlh.txt>WED 5/6/2026 ovulation prob:87.605%>THU 5/7/2026 ovulation prob:90.6725%>FRI 5/8/2026 ovulation prob:89.1933%
>>111669070It's such a strange feeling.Iofi's last homocollab was on December, Ollie had one around February but that has been her entire quota this year. ERB on January, Kobo hasn't done one in years. Matsuri became pro-unicorn, Botan and Towa pivoted completely to e-sports fleshies. Only Shiori and AkiRose homocollabed after the announcement, but Shiori will be back in line after they're gone.It's not only that the pro-unicorn talents ignore them, it's not only that the clean slate CGDCT talents ignore them, the entire company has decided that the Homos do not exist.
>>111669292good.
>>111669255I liked pragmata but it's not a good streaming gameyapping is unironically more interesting
>>111669294The Sunday announcement is that she got preggers by the Gigicock
>>111669268personally, I was sitting through to watch biboo and shiori cry
>>111669297I won
>>111669268It was fine if you finish it in 1-3 streams when it just came out. I dunno why some of them are still playing it.
>>111668907Members are dependant on how much content you actually doMori and Shiori are high value memberships because they do a lot of member content, and so people are more likely to memberMeanwhile members like, say, Ina who do MAYBE one member stream a month don't have a draw for membership besides "membering my oshi"So the high value membership holos get more cross-pollination in the endHolos will also have higher members if they often blogspot or vent or look for support behind members, makes it more personal
Twitter article from former Anycolor COO Iwanaga Taikihttps://x.com/i/status/2052347626578935829>【Reasons Why VTubers Graduate or Reincarnate】In my previous post, I wrote that the question of “whether to hand over character rights upon VTuber graduation or not” is a much heavier issue than it appears from the outside.https://x.com/iwataiki/status/2051954470167117965This time, I’ll discuss the reasons why VTubers graduate or reincarnate in the first place.From a fan’s perspective, it’s very natural to think things like:“Why are they quitting?” “Did they have a fight with the agency?” “They should just keep going with the current character.”Of course, those feelings are completely understandable.However, in reality, VTuber graduations and reincarnations are often caused by multiple overlapping factors, not a single reason.These can include: activity direction, agency rules, revenue splits, workload, physical/mental limits, personal relationships, contract renewals, changes in life stage, shifts in management policy, scandal risks, compliance issues, and changes in the kind of expression the person wants to pursue.First, as a major premise: Having talents who graduate after a few years is not that abnormal.According to data published by Japan’s Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare, the 3-year turnover rate for new graduates is 33.8% for university graduates and 37.9% for high school graduates. In other words, even in regular companies, quite a lot of people leave their first job within three years. @iwataikiIn the “lifestyle-related services and entertainment industry” (which is relatively close to VTubing), the figures are even higher: 54.7% for university grads and 61.5% for high school grads.Of course, these are statistics for regular employees and cannot be applied directly to VTuber talents. Still, when even ordinary company workers change jobs at this rate, it’s a bit off to immediately treat a talent graduating after several years of activity as some kind of abnormal betrayal.Moreover, many VTuber talents are active in their teens to 30s. At that age, major life stage changes—advancing in school, getting a job, marriage, health issues, family matters, future planning, or shifts in desired creative expression—are completely normal.From my own observations having seen many graduation cases, I believe there are far more cases where no one is truly at fault.Rather than someone maliciously destroying things, it’s more common that over time, the situations of the individual, the character, the agency, the fans, the market, and the company gradually shift. These uncontrollable changes often lead to graduation or reincarnation.>The biggest factor: misalignment over timeThe relationship between the talent, the character, and the agency gradually diverges.At the start of activities, the person thinks: “I want to work hard with this character,” “I want to succeed with this agency,” “I want to go in this direction.”But after several years, everything changes: the person’s age, the kind of expression they want, the fanbase, sales scale, agency policies, and the level of responsibility required.It’s perfectly normal for things that once matched to stop matching later.This is especially difficult for long-time “veteran” talents within an agency.When the agency was small, there was high freedom, close relationships, lax rules, and a lot of personal discretion.But as the agency grows:IPO, shareholders, business partners, corporate projects, compliance, information management, handling minors, scandal response, brand management…The more the company has to protect, the more rules increase, decisions become cautious, and the old casual vibe disappears.From the company’s perspective, this is a natural evolution. But from the veteran talent’s view, it can feel like “This is different from what we talked about before,” “I didn’t expect it to become this restrictive,” or “We helped build this agency, but now it feels like a completely different company.”This kind of misalignment is very common when organizations grow—it’s not necessarily one side being unilaterally wrong.
>>111669297>the entire company has decided that the Homos do not existthis is all I ever asked for
>>111669248The Persona curse will claim another soul soon.
so are we on the koreans' side or kroniis side?
>>111669335it was only fine the first stream because people want to see their initial reaction to the loli but after that it's number poison
>>111669324biboo's crying was great, she was like :D
>>111669267Ina 1.6MKiara 1.3MMori 2.3MAme 1.7MGura 2.5MIRyS 1.2MFauna 1.4MMumei 1.4MBae 1.2MKronii 1.3MShiori 1.1MBiboo 1.9MNerissa 1MFWMC 2.2MERB 710KGG 774KCC 610KRaora 554K
>>111669361You have to be fairly deranged to be on the Koreans side.
>>111669360Krafton bought them? They are dead dead (after they finish getting gaped by the subnautica lawsuit)
>>111669297Shiori's collab was scheduled pre-annoucement, she's for THD now
>>111669366Its short enough where I dont see the point of dropping it, but playing it way past its release date, you are guaranteed low numbers.
>>111669356>Popularity doesn’t always mean more freedomThe more popular someone becomes, the more corporate projects, merch, lives, collabs, scandal risks, brand management, and contractual restrictions increase. In many cases, the bigger the success, the more “things you have to carry” rather than “being able to do whatever you want.”From a purely economic standpoint, as an agency scales, a small number of top super-popular talents often end up supporting the majority of the company’s profits. Those profits then support newcomers, underperforming talents, shared staff, studios, tech, live production, merch, hiring, and creating the next stars.This structure is somewhat inevitable for a company.However, from the top talent’s perspective, it’s not strange for them to feel: “I’m earning quite a lot, but the amount left in my hands is less than I expected” or “Wouldn’t I make more if I went independent?”Especially for a publicly listed company, IR (investor relations) information makes it somewhat visible to outsiders how much and from what the company is profiting. It’s perfectly possible for adults around the talent to advise, “You’d make more money if you left the agency” or “Economically, independence would be better.”Of course, that’s not always correct. Leaving might increase your share, but you then have to handle sales, production, legal, taxes, scandal response, staff management, and fan support all by yourself.>Investment and pace differencesWhen affiliated with an agency, you can’t freely decide the level of investment by yourself. Since the company provides funding, moves staff, and covers production/advertising/live costs, the company needs returns at the timing it expects.This is natural for the company—it’s not a charity and must recoup its investments.But from the talent’s side, this can create discomfort.If doing it independently, one could think “As long as I can live, it’s fine to run at a loss for years.” Some might want to reinvest all profits into the next activities, prioritize creation over profit, maximize fan returns, or focus on longevity even if currently unprofitable.But within an agency, there are overall budgets, profit plans, staff salaries, balance with other talents, and explanations to shareholders and partners. So mismatches between the pace the talent wants and the pace the company needs for recoupment can also lead to graduation/reincarnation.On the other hand, the talent might think: “I want to do more activities under my own name,” “I want to try a different genre,” “I want to make decisions without going through the agency,” or “I want to hold both the revenue and responsibility myself.” This can lead to graduating and continuing under a new identity (reincarnation).Reincarnation is not necessarily betrayal. In many cases, it’s simply ending activities as the agency’s character and continuing as a different person/expression in another life.>The agency’s side also has its reasonsCharacter IP, trademarks, illustrations, Live2D, music, merch, channels, contracts, projects, relationships with other talents, and fan communities—these were all created involving not just the individual but the company, creators, partners, and other members.Therefore, it’s not easy for the agency to say “We’ll just hand everything over to you” upon graduation.Conversely, the talent can’t easily accept “I’ll take it all,” because they would then bear the rights, taxes, operations, production costs, scandal handling, and fan support.
>Immerdiddler worked with kids
>>111669380
>>111669404>In summaryVTuber graduations and reincarnations are often not simple stories like “the agency is bad,” “the talent is bad,” “they abandoned the fans,” “just hand over the rights and it’s solved,” or “they’ll make more money independent.”Of course, there are cases where the management really has problems, cases where the talent’s personal circumstances make continuation difficult, cases where both sides share fault, and cases where no one can clearly be blamed.From the outside, it’s impossible to know exactly how much the agency contributed to the cause versus the talent’s own reasons. I don’t know either.I’ve seen and heard about agencies with quite harsh, near-exploitative contracts and operating environments. I’ve also seen and heard cases where the talent’s own circumstances and preferences were very strong.That’s why I think it’s unproductive for outsiders to make strong assumptions based purely on imagination.What’s important is not jumping to conclusions based only on visible information.A VTuber is simultaneously a “character,” a “human being,” and a “business.” Graduation and reincarnation therefore involve not just emotional issues, but contracts, rights, money, health, career, organizational management, and brand control—all intertwined.It’s natural for fans to feel sad.But graduations and reincarnations are often not “tragedies” or “betrayals,” but realistic choices for that person to continue their activities.The reality of VTuber graduations and reincarnations is more varied than it looks from the outside.For better or worse, they are very human stories.Thoughts?
>>111669405
She won
>>111669356>>111669404>>111669422No wonder that nijisanji is the way that it is when it has been run by intellectual midgets like this
>>111669422Fuck off grok
>>111669401Irys biboo and mori all did a second stream not far off and it still dropped off a lot from the first
>sorry you are disabledwtf CC
>>111669422>“the agency is bad,” “the talent is bad,” “they abandoned the fans,”>Thoughts?I liked this part, didn't read the restThis part had soul. It must have been true
Holy shit this is the peak content I subscribe for, thank you CC
Pretty low CCV for CC but the trajectory looks good.Her 5k floor passive will kick in soon.
cc LOVES dominatrix
cc likes women in latex suits
CC said all the blacks look the same
>>111669468Pragmata beyond the first stream is a debuff game
nigger faggot troon
>>111669468What are her Q W E and R moves
what is she talking about
>>111669297It's really weird, at first I thought >"well maybe there was some sort of fee the homos had to pay for collabs that now they can't afford"And it made sense but then some anon said that maybe it has to do with how management is gone now and they were in charge of coordinating this stuff and that also makes sense.But then... why aren't they able to coordinate without management's help? So I'm back at my first hypothesis, either is that or the homos did something so stupid even the pro homo girls are ignoring them.
>>111669361Kronies are all big dick Americans
>The brothers make anothe movieCC NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LOL CC
CC says trannies don't matter
jumper is good, i watched it like 5 times when i was a kid
She'll get herself cancelled on of those days...
>>111669525wtf i'm an otomo now
>on of those days
Why is Kronii bringing drama from her other account into Hololive, this seems like an easy suspension case
>>111669265
>>111669297I've always wanted to know: will anons buy voice packs and merch of former homocollabers after they stop?
>suspensionbegging
>>111669525gg and cc uses all the queer dictionary words and thats why you can tell they are wokegrems and otomos knows that and dont care so the shitposters have to falseflag as being mad about it
>>111668131it's fun to read>positive review? brigaded by picrel replykekanyone around the world knows they can rile up gooks with this one simple trick
>>111669501I can see 2 routes, either they are branded as not worth it anymore, that the girls just don't bother or the guys are trying to focus on their branch/brand more reducing the corss collabs
>>111669567Technically she's in a grey area right now because the koreans brought her vtuber shit into it.Cover should just ignore it and let her deal with it. Only help her if it doesn't involve RM shit.
>>111669591you know you could blend in more if you didn't make the same exact post every time?
>review bombingwhy are holo fans acting like chinks now?
>>111669591can you stop reposting my posts at least fix my english
>>111669360>kraftonYup they are dead>>111669248I really dont get it.
>>111669567It's a clear bad opsec handling, and gives Cover a bad image that one of their talents in weaponizing their fans by pushing personal problems into their professional career sending hate and shit to a different company
>>111669468The streams is culled and buffering like crazy on my side. I didn't have that issue with Ina's stream.
>>111668131PLEASE give screenshots this sounds fucking hilarious
>>111668148>You don't fuck with Holofans Except this is RM shit. So it's her problem, not mine. I ain't no white knight simp.
>>111669360>>111669390pubg will carry them trust the plan
Hololive wonCC wonHololive EN wonNijiniggerkeks lsotPhasecucks lostUnicorns wonHomos lostKoreans lostI won (did nothing)
>>111669567The gooks brought the vtuber stuff.
>>111669629>now
>Holofags are review bombing the gameYeah i'm sure that gives Hololive a good image that their fans will attack a game like this
CC is a troublesome woman
>>111669679China won
>>111669629>>111669693What's even the point of this kind of "trolling" when everyone knows it's untrue
>>111669704
>>111669685They never brought it up front like it is now, that dumb bitch made a point to talk about it on her personal account and people then dredged up the moment that it happened with her as Kronii. She's a seething unprofessional whore who would never even get opportunities like that if she weren't in Holo
>>111667148I never saw such things playing Ragnarok Online back in the day, and only one spergout about Nikke, but otherwise its been good. Guess ShiftUp is just better. Though, didn't Ollie have a sponsor with Nikke that suddenly canceled last year? What happened with that?
>/#/ LOL SHE HATES THE TRANNIE WE WIN WE WIN>Towa: LOL SHE CALLED THAT WOMAN SEXY This says a lot actually
>>111669704China is going to collapse in 2030
>>111669636are you low iq?substitute very funny with boaring
>>111669567
>>111669696Hahaha, kill yourself gook impersonator
>>111669698https://youtu.be/RYQUsp-jxDQ
>>111669738cc doesn't hate trannies, she's good friends with one and she is woke
>>1116697384chan vs tumblr
>>111669728at the time it sounded more like a holoID thing with the whole nudity stuff and ID having a sizeable muslin population
>>111669752>no argumentI accept your concession.
>>1116666871m views = $100 USDoh boy
So is Hololive gonna pull out of the KR market now, I wonder how the other KR talents feel about this with Ina/Kanade. They probably never even really liked each other anyway, especially Kanada between her and Ina/Kronii they've barely fucking interacted
>>111669727why are you crying for a thing that happened 4 years ago?
>>111669718Average vtuber fan picture tells a different story
>>111669738what is the context of this, and CC is woke unfortunately
>>111669696>>111669629its funny because this is something i can actually speak on, no "tribalism" is causing the game to get reviewbombed, we are fucking mad at the game because Nimble Neuron is RETARDED, the discord has a thread with 2k+ messages and we're all mad as fuck about the decision. this is not a "Hololive" problem, this is the devs being RETARDED again
>>111669764What am i even arguing against?
>>111669772>So is Hololive gonna pull out of the KR market nowwtf i love Kronii now
>>111669658
>>111669750It's funny how this is the only rebuttal you fags have, always thinking about cocks lmao
>unfortunately Wild that you chuds find your way into this hobby dominated by liberal women
>>111669761The irony is that 4chan had the highest population of trannies I've ever seen outside discord.
>>111669772nice try the plave collabs will keep on rolling and its not gonna stop because of some unrelated mobile ad lmao
>>111669718>untrueare you saying that hololive fans aren't review bombing the game? or that review bombing is not a bad thing?
>>111669782Where did I say that I was offended by her joke? You people are retarded, it's because she's handling this unprofessionally by involving her larger audience by making it public and even talking about it as Kronii
>>111668131If they are anything like Nexon, you have to remember that there is a big difference between the west and the eastIn the west, we respect time invested. You can see this with how popular Ironman mode is in Runescape, Reboot server is in Maplestory which are anti-P2W, solo experience game modes, and even your own post showing someone with 5,000 hours on record. The time someone invests gives them status and we value it more than anything in gaming. Time can’t be bought. In the east, cash is king. They respect money spent on the game more than time. For example in Korean Maplestory, it’s allowed to share accounts and all of the top streamers and players pay IRL money for someone to grind daily for them. In global Maplestory, sharing accounts alone is a bannable offense. The idea of paying someone else to grind for you is right out. I bring this up because 5000 hours means nothing to HQ if that doesn’t come with a price tag attached. To us, this review shows the most dedicated fans are pissed and turning against the devs. To them, it may well be meaningless
>>111669796So this is the straw that broke the camel's back kind of situation?
>>111669788>unfortunatelyWild that you chuds find your way into this hobby dominated by liberal women
>>111669629Looks like there is some fans who aren't happy about them firing a VA for retarded reasons
https://x.com/TwitchSupport/status/2052455504761561481Twitch implementing CCV caps to prevent viewbots
>>111669796How is this not tribalism? All of the reviews are just echoing the same bullshit about this drama. She was unprofessional and get replaced, get the fuck over it you faggot
>>111669081>P5 curse?!qrd
>>111669642yep this is another woman moment
>le politics
>>111668131okay this is epic
>>111669829You fight on the battlefield not inside your city
>>111669816"Chuds" have been in the fanbase since the beginning, liberal fags only came in with Advent/Justice
>>111669874because tribalism requires for someone to be revolting for hololive specifically, the players (me included) are just fucking mad because this is event n.5000 of NN fucking over the NA side while the game is DYING
>>111669866uuh are they fucking retarded?
>>111669874and the game will just EoS. get the fuck over it you faggot
>>111669874The company was unprofessional and fired someone for something that was said 4 years ago and then picked up and mistranslated by subhumans
>>111669895All you did was replace the word faggot with tranny.
>>111669866Most streamers will go on break to avoid this and comeback with a new for botting
>>111669874>She was unprofessionalno she wasn't lol
>>111669904Cope
>>111669889
I haven't been paying attention, this game is a platformer?
Korean incels are retards for canceling her over petty shitKronii is a fucking retard for whining about what is mostly RM shit on a holo stream and activating her simp army instead of just letting it go and acting professionalyKronii simps are retards for white knighting her by review bombing on steamEvery party should fuck off and let me enjoy hololive in peace. Go create internet drama somewhere else. Mori used to get relentlessly shat on for doing shit like this.
>>111669910This entire drama is Holo-related, idk why you're trying to disassociate Hololive from it like it's a non-player in this drama. Fucking falseflagging faggot
is CC retarded? Asking for a friend after watching this display
>>111669904Isn't one of the reasons Hololive got popular because it was one of the only instances where streamers were basically apolitical?
no wonder they aren't listening to us KEKAROO
>>111669866this will hit everyone except the actual viewbotters and personal friends/industry plants
>>111669877iirc there have been a few gacha games that collab with Persona that end up EOSing after a few months of the collab happening
>>111669738>free speech imageboard>heavily moderated authoritarian redditlike
>>111669919>thinking that an insignificant gook whore's fans are enough to topple a gamekek
>>111669866Instead of outright just banning people from the get go because apparently they know who has been view botting consistently they are going to nickle and dime them until they viewbot to a more "normal" numbers. Did advertisers finally get off their asses and call twitch out for providing shitty data?
>>111669814uh oh gook melty!
To think some of you were begging for HoloKR a while ago lol
>>111669985People don't need to topple the game, it will just die
>>111669922wrong, that bitch was unprofessional during a sponsor stream and no company would want to work with someone like that
>>111669796What are the regular Korean players saying about this whole drama? I'm assuming it was a small contingent of antis that stirred this up and most don't care about the dubbing at all, or is that wrong?
>>111669763.....fucking really? Out of all the content that is pretty much Ollie being as horny as possible? Nikke is somehow beyond the pale of a girl who regularly talks about plowing and carpet eating? Really? If she is being monitored like that, you'd ask yourself why she would get the sponsor in the first place and not EN.
>>111669997We want Korean women, they are cute and fine we just need to make sure their “men” don’t follow
>>111669985every game EoS, this one will just die faster
>>111669939ok Advent fag
>>111669968This was supposed to be their move to get international audience, since the game is dying
>>111669955Is not holos playing this game complaining.Is the entire western fanbase.Also deserved since they brought KRONII stuff into the game instead of just her rm.
Has Nimi ever posted a frame whilst Randon was live?
>>111669966It used to be, but with the collapse of Niji EN bringing in refugees and Advent/Justice, Holo EN has just been filled by these sisters and troons who think that the company has always been le hecking progressive and woke the whole time and bring up out of context shit like that one Kanata clip that always gets brought up
>>111669910(me)this has fucked ALL voice actors on the NA side, the director said that theyre going to have to downscale the entire EN voice side because of KR niggering btw>>111669958what the fuck are you even on? how am i falseflagging if i literally play the game, this went FAR beyond hololive, people dont even cite the company's name in this shit, the whole stink is about korean domestic problems, retarded people on the internet, and nimble neuron again FUCKING OVER their own game. stay out of the convo, tourist
>still talking about the HUGE yab that will DESTROY Kroniiyou fags are extremely boring, I will go hornypost at /co/ and /a/
>>111668879WELLLLLLLL ......
>>111670022We want holoplave
>>111670007is this a tiny weeny gook who invested thousand hours in the game? or just a normal kroniischizo?
A talent weaponizing her fans to attack someone like this is not looking good desu, hololive reputation is only going to get worse.
>>111670012You gotta remember HoloID had almost no management at the time (I think I remember the girls even retweeting the job posting tweet for managers at the time), I'm gonna guess they looked into the game when it was close to the stream date because they didn't have enough people to keep an eye on things.Also remember Ollie does that sexual stuff in english there's no visuals to go along with it like the game
>>111670007>that bitch was unprofessional during a sponsor stream>Where did I say that I was offended by her joke?
>>111670030the game was abandoned by english fans, kronii would have brought in new players but they would all quit after seeing how dogshit the game is
>rainbow retiree kronii vid going viral
>>111670090Just another opportunist most likely
CC.... this is just a tutorial.....
>>111670075So you're just this retarded huh, the entire drama stems from Kronii airing out her personal problems lmao. Get fucked faggot
>>111669954>Training Modebut it's more like challenge levels
>>111670073
>>111670022Just put them in EN or Dev_IS, like we did so far.
>>111670115she is using it to remember the controls
CC is amazing
>>111670104Again, I never said I was offended by it you esl fuck. It was unprofessional from a corporate standpoint, fucking retarded clock cucks
>>111670117She was just the final straw.It aint that complex
>>111670075don't bother, the faggotretardtranny won't change xis mind
>>111670075>this has fucked ALL voice actors on the NA side, the director said that theyre going to have to downscale the entire EN voice side because of KR niggering btwBASED! TOTAL VOICE ACTOR DEATH!
>>111669955>"mostly RM"The joke they're offended about was made by kronii tho
>>111670117the whole revolt has been kicking up for a while, kronii "airing out personal problems" was barely a factor when the community was already mad as fuck at the company. the whole discussion is FAR beyond "X said Y", the criticisms go WAY beyond just a talent or two, the game is fucking dying
>>111670148melty
>>111670130Yeah this is exactly what I said
>>111670079>boring*boaring
>>111670148Explain how it was unprofessional.I think the thread could use a good laugh
>>111670022Korean women aren't cute. It's not part of their culture, like how western women don't talk high pitched and retarded like Japanese women to attract men.
>>111670148>you esl fuckironic
>>111670130Homos are DeadAnd all Phase woke connect is next
>>111668429See: >>111666500You're a retard. Now shut up.
>>111670022This >>111670133. HoloEN and HoloJP can collab fine without worrying about some KRschizo having a problem with 1 frame in a hologra which resembles a pinch emoji
>>111670079boaring even
Holy shit, who the fuck cares about Kronii drama?She's a homo collaber anyway. She's why the homos got to get away with so many things from the startNot my oshi, not my problemShut up about Kronii
>>111670151>>111670152>>111670168>>111670173Cope holofaggot, you people are tourists who never even heard of the game and are just going on a crusade for your whore oshi while she sucks up your simp bucks and goes to get dicked down by gym bro
otomos did the tits trick with ccthe fell for it she realized what was going on quickly
>>111668487Scrandle is not reaction content, retardIt's a browser game
this just proves that English VAs are all dogshit and should be replaced with ai
Please god make this yab finally be what gets Kronii fired
>>111669968>ugh koreasama please listen to my 10% cock we are very angry>we didn't betray hanguk, kronii the middle age slut did
nah trying to hard, no (you) for you
shachi is gaped and in the nimi clique she is not to be trusted
>>111670079Don't you mean "boaring"
>>111670213looks like you lost and I won
>>111670178NijiEN refugees actually, they're infesting HLEN
Imagine being korean
>>111670213This but every "Based" and "Totally Virgin Femcel" Phase Grifting Whore
>>111670213sweet okbhcuck meltdown
>>111670168(me)for example, this got an entire fucking character skin line CANCELLED because she SLIGHTLY PINCHES HER FINGERS. PEOPLE GOT FIRED OVER THIS.>>111670213nigga i play this game every fucking day, holy fucking melty, you cant even have a sincere conversation up in here jesus christ
>>111669904>Adventyou mean Council?
>>111670252Whatever you need to cope with I guess, gonna be saving this for the grudge post when that bitch gets fired and can't get VA roles anymore without the Holo brand because she's always been a failed VA and only applied for Holo because nobody else wanted her
Making a joke is okFiring her just because of a joke is retarded but okBringing up her roommate problem on stream is retarded and NOT okReview bombing is retarded and NOT ok
>>111670262impossible korean "men" are closer to women than normal men
>>111670262the eternal cuck dilemma:do we simp kronii because she is korean or a nice lady
>>111670257Makes sense considering that half of Advent and Justice themselves are nijisisters and probably failed applicants anyway lmao
>>111670295myth, EN fans in general have a bunch of people like that
>>111670288>this got an entire fucking character skin line CANCELLED because she SLIGHTLY PINCHES HER FINGERS. PEOPLE GOT FIRED OVER THIS.BASED! TOTAL FEMINISTS DEATH
>>111670073You can't really blame Advent or Justice, most people excluding ERB were enjoying the Hololive atmosphere, see the Advent Christmas, the Tea War debate, the rock paper scissors christmas, etc. You were gonna have beggars infiltrate because they know there is literally no other way. Some are actually retarded enough to think Holostars is viable, but most just want to burn the house down, Advent and Justice can't help that, and its not like Myth or Promise had a fanbase immune to that tomfoolery, it was just blossoming into the crap we see today, having that whole bit during the Grim era.
>>111670288holy larp, imagine claiming you play every day and that "the game is dying" only to go on a crusade because some nobody EN VA dub actor got replaced lmao. You people are just as bad as genshit fags
>>111670213Don't call me a tourist
>>111670313don't care the game is actually shit and deserves to be told to everyone
>Numbers of gook things getting boycotted this year: 2
>>111670213GIGA TRVTH NVKE
>>111670313They made it a kroniii problem because they brought a kroniii stream.
>>111670295meh it's never been this bad compared to the early days, yeah there certainly were sisters and shit but it is so much worse now
>>111670348Nah it's Advent and Justice
>you will never play OG overwatch with cc while she plays monkey and you carry with soldier 76 or genji Why live
I'm proven right once again that CC is genuinely boring as fuck on her own. Maybe the collab spam is intentional.
>>111670334Crazy lore drop about FWMC. It can't be biboo or shiori from Advent so it has to be them
>>111670348Advent and Justice enabled all of these people to come into the fanbase en mass following NijiEN's downfall, people like Shiori/Nerissa/ERB/GG especially all contributed to shitting up the fanbase
>>111670302Speaking about the beautiful hololive girls like that isn't going to lead to the outcome you like, it's just the way it is
>>111670393Lol, Biboo is constantly getting complaints from weird beggars saying she has a chud fanbase. Calm your tranny ass down.
>top 3 highest suicide rate>lowest birth rateNo wonder these people are offended by everything online
Made a meme.
>>111670382no one knew that until kronii brought it up
>>111670436enough about Bae, Kronii and Fauna
>>111670427you have the shittest of tastes philistine
>>111670436And Raora. Only CC is good. She doesn't pander to lgbt
>>111670431Advent failed Nijisisters are Nerissa and Shiori, Justice might as well be the whole gen so you don't have to falseflag bringing up Fuwamoco retard
>>111670436shiori is too weird and straight for them, it's really just bloodraven and autofister having the cancer shipfag trannys latch on to them
>>111670475Shiori fucking hates Niji, newfag. Your dumbass dogs are friends with an ex Niji
>>111670360did you just fucking gloss over my posts and take my points of >Nimble Neuron has been fucking over their own game with retarded decisions for years, removing content, no communication, releasing half-baked patches, pandering to people who dont play the game online, resorting to gacha battlepasses to increase revenue and try to twist it into "ACTUALLY IT WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS FIRED", this was just the last straw until EOS you mongrel, stop trying to steer shit about a game that you dont play and about a community you don't interact
>>111670452Doesn't help that some pebbles are also anti-lolicons too, fucking larpers in the community
>>111670388Shit wasn’t like this 5 years ago everything is political and polarized now so it just shows a lot more
>>111670500?
>>111670500>some pebbles are also anti-loliconsHOW?
>>111670505Can you stop talking to yourself retard
>>111670464Those 3 are insignificant compared to the sheer volume of newer fags that the 2 new EN gens brought in, and back then NijiEN at least was somewhat relevant that was able to be a containment for most of these fucks
>>111670500She doesnt even acknowledge that discord exists.
>we should act like complete simps and white knight Kronii's RMCan you tards fuck off I'm trying to enjoy hololive. I don't give a shit about her drama.
>>111670452the rest of advent are bad
>>111670288>for example, this got an entire fucking character skin line CANCELLED because she SLIGHTLY PINCHES HER FINGERS. no fucking way that's true
ccgg announcement leak
Hakka's Green Homo Whore is streaming too
>>111670472Raora used to be a Nijisister but has kept up appearances since joining Holo, and CC is borderline because she is openly woke about shit sometimes plus she's friends with a tranny.
>>111670519>member that sexiest ranking>member that biboocord ban you for uoh posting
>>111670539TOTAL HOLO ENEMIES DEATH!
>>111670462Nigga THEY brought it up as evidence to fire her.THEY MADE IT ABOUT THAT STREAMand that is a kronii stream.They should have inventes a real excuse
>>111670548the character's name is Lenore, if you post this and the mods see you get instantly banned
Did otomos run out of money for bots?
>>111670452Pebbles in the real world aren’t very chud like if my experience is any measure, but everyone is usually on their best behavior for meetups and stuff so it’s hard to judge I guess
>>111670476>>111670495Doesn't matter, Shiori is still close enough because she's a beggar and is into gay shit
>>111670528Neah clique existed before Nerissa.
>>111670549
>>111670557>plus she's friends with a trannyYou literally used the clean slate card for Raora but not for CC. How odd
What did Kronii wanted to happen when she used her holo platform to complain about her rm situations?
>>111670564Fuck off. This is like asking holofans to white knight Mori during the fucking condom money shit.All parties in these dramas are tards. Including kronii and mori.
>>111670497>an insignificant EN shitter VA getting replaced is more important than all of these things that actually affect the gameDo you even hear yourself? If you actually cared about the game then you people would've been causing a shitstorm before, not because of this garbage drama that is entirely perpetuated by Holofans
cc ovulating
>>111670602She defender her stream.
Niggers acting like TakaMori wasn't a thing since HoloEN's first yearSure as fuck wasn't trad and redpilled
>invoking the ancient history
>>111670587>into gay shitROFL clipwatcher
In case anyone is still wondering if that sudden sub increase to +500k was organic.
>>111670602She was probably hoping you'd die with your shit game. Hopefully it works.
>>111670602she just wanted to talk about what has her feeling visibly upset?
>>111670548They are extremely sensitive when it comes to the pinching motion. Even apple had to change their advertisement specifically for them.
>>111670505It's what happens when you don't gatekeep, Hololive used to be so much more enjoyable but now it's mostly just slop
>>111670604>This is like asking holofans to white knight Mori during the fucking condom money shit.You don't even seem to know what the fuck you're talking about.Gomen anon, anyone crossing a Holo girl will get absolutely clobbered REGARDLESS of blame
first thing cc tried was to shot the balloon
>>111670604How are the two related in any way you fucking retarded ape
>>111670602She was feeling down and explained the reason.
Justice or any other gen debuting in 2024 would've ended up with niji refugees anyway
>>111670519Gura/Saba has similar "fans" who are against stuff like cunny posting, even tho both Saba and Biboo play into being lolis
>>111670560Oh, yea. That's on pebbles for letting the rot into their spaces.
>>111670651I remember there was a compilation of gooks accidentally doing the gesture on camera and panic-correcting themselves
Good god, HoloEN needs EN5 asap.
>>111670602It's a PSA for her beloved viewers and community to not spend time and money to a genuinely awful game and company.
>>111669602The homos have to hold on to each other otherwise they'll keep slippingThe first one to hit true 2view is guaranteed first to go
>>111670533Doesn't matter, it still exists and those retards are still prevalent in the fandom
>>111670683honestly idc I never use discord
>>111670620people HAVE been cooking up a shitstorm, ever since the persona 5 collab its clear that they ran out of options of "improving the game" and have been trying to outsource attention, this was quite literally the last straw until it hit, this isnt about "white knighting" or fighting for someone, people are fucking mad at EVERYTHING
>>111670602is it a rm situation when the reason they're firing her is for something she said as kronii?
>>111670692my wife
Despite the obvious thing that Nijisanji fans hate women I think its funny regardless since there are like 100 of them outside of bots so they're invisible too
>>111670683that discord would blow a gasket if they heard the Advent ASMR. Biboo plays the bratty cunny really well in that one
>>111670597Uh no? I said that CC still does woke shit as a Holo, Raora has not done anything remotely like how she acted before but nice try
korean women need to be raped into submission
>>111670587>into gay shitMost of the girls are fujos or have fujo tendencies, .
Reminder that this entire CC is woke melty is because she called a tranny director a man
>>111670602Because she's a woman and needs to vent all of her problem, especially that she has an army of men willing to stir shit for her. That kind of power gets to people's heads, its why cancel culture is so cancer because it gives people power thinking that they are morally right for going on a crusade since "oh everyone else is doing it", fucking sheeps
>>111670743Korean men that act like women too.
Nijiniggers call Shiori "Niji-tier" because they want to cope that Niji could pull a fraction of this off.
>>111670732She acts like a lesbian
>>111670732Are you really trying to start Raora vs CC??
reminder we will be watching jurard tomodachi life today
>>111670751>CC is woke>called a tranny director a manWhat? That's the opposite of woke.
>>111670777Unless she has made long bacon jokes, it's just an act.
>>111670785thats why theyve been spamming
>>111670743Not by Korean men though, they wouldn't be able to get their microdicks in.
>>111670775is any of the nijiEN even 4view nowadays?
>>111670651are all gooks small breedable femboys or something?
>>111670683The solution is to simply avoid all fancords, they are the worst spaces of any community and I'm glad Hololive does not have official fancords
>>111670722last time, they prohibited talking about certain topics because of cunny.
>>111670793>just an actAnd how is that not pandering to the lgbt crowd?
>>111670779i’m glad randon (my oshi) won’t be overlapping him
>>111670393Nerissa has sisters after her job, shitters threatening a bomb threat, hell, even some trolling /ope/ making fun of her grandmother passing . Same ones who mocked her crying missing her niece's birth in 2024. These people have been stinking up their fake positions as "fans" in Hololive since forever. See the Vtuber Awards in 2024 where all the tea was spilling after the seething of Hololive dominance, like with that Lucy Pyre chick getting exposed.
>>111670822yeah the 3d beach outfit stream kek
>>111670803didnt one of the new nijiJP become a 3 view on their first week after debut...and they all lost to Reine...and Nerissa...
>>111670743ig you need to help with that gook-san, dont worry i'll fuck your women
>>111670712(me)the angle of steering it "ITS ACTUALLY X GROUP DOING IT" is retarded, you niggers dont fucking know the game and surely we dont need tourists trying to steer into an angle that lets the niggering top hats at Nimble Neuron get off free with the "erm its just hate from white-knights!" card, this company is retarded and needs to be raped
>>111670712Ok? But you are purposefully ignoring how this 1 situation is causing more of a shitstorm than anything else, the reviews for the game are worse now than they've ever been because of Holofags bombing. It is not a "straw that broke the back" situation, its a bunch of white knight simps who saw their beloved whore vaguepost about shit and went after the company who decided to replace her when she already has a fucking job as a Holo talent
>>111670828Anon, just because holos yuribait doesn't mean THEY ARE.
>>111670779No We aren't because We are not Novelites
>>111670853sheeeshh, riku's new wave support used to be better
>>111670803Some struggle to reach 3view nowadays, Barrenwomb or whatever his name is constantly struggling to reach 100 CCV
>>111670722>Biboo plays a bratty cunnyUh can I have a source please
>>111670828so CGDCT = pandering to the LGBT crowd?fucking retard.
>>111670747Ok? Shiori is still one of the most disgustingly open about it
>>111670870>yuribait doesn't countOk? So the only people that actually pander to the lgbt crowd are kronii, cc and gg?
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>36,452: Miko (Hololive)>24,782: Pekora (Hololive)>22,500: Toya (Nijisanji)>18,057: Marine (Hololive)>17,604: Okayu (Hololive)>17,272: Korone (Hololive)>16,502: Hinano (VSPO)>12,052: Pekora (Hololive)>11,008: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)>10,986: AZKi (Hololive)>10,729: Fubuki (Hololive)>10,059: Shiori (Hololive)Gold for Miko with her announcement stream with Pekora getting silver with Tomodachi Life and Toya, bronze
did CC beat the indiana jones game?
>>111670897Yurishit is CGDCT? You are deranged.
>>111670890that's the faggot who killed cripple tally by constantly winning
>>111670853>and Nerissa...You leave my babygirl alone, she is good.
>>111670928>yurishitmask off, SEAfag.
>>111670777So does every other Holo talent, but its all just business yuri
https://x.com/V4Mirai/status/2052463477889909018brave group lost
>>111670870you know autofister's yuribait so good schizos think its actually real it is, im schizo
>>111670897For phasecucks the only acceptable thing is for vtuber to flirt with other men.
>>111670928>Yurishit is CGDCT?Yes
Nigga can jannies start banning for calls for raid and Roommate shit already?I don't give a single fuck about Kronii's RM drama and am sick of her dickriders trying to get people to raid steam reviews.Korean incels, Kronii and kronii simps can fuck right off.
>>111670892https://youtu.be/EV-iyA4g8oU?t=136 for a preview its way more aggresive and cunny during the ASMR properyou buy it here:https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololiveenadvent_asmr_averyadventuroussleepover
>>111670949Joke's on you, I'm a europoor.
>>111670959Autofister doesn't yuribait. They just exist.
>>111670956is this the girl who left everything for that 2view nijiorgan?
>>111670979Talk shit get hit don't go messing with the holo gang
>>111670990are you muslim?
>>111670993>Autofister doesn't yuribaittop 10 funniest things I read all year
>>111670918VSPO's pokemon champions tourney opening with this BIG ASS Z failed to tally
>>111671021
>>111670858>>111670867somehow i predicted your post, this is not a problem for your schizoing, our community (and quite literally every relevant name in the ER) is rising up to talk about the situation and how NN has been fucking over the EN community and crippling their own game out of their own volition, we have pro players going against it, even the fucking VA director going against it, the game's reviews have been fucked eternally because of the HISTORY the company has with crippling their own game. this is NOT your problem, leave this with the people who ACTUALLY play the game
>>111670956Ryoma will be happy
>>111670928what's the point of shitting yourself over yuribait when that shit has been a thing since forever? you had JPs saying "we are homolaivu!" as a joke
>>111670984Damn it's a whole group thing? Wanted to just buy Biboo and maybe Fuwamoco's set, having Shiori and Nerissa kind of ruins it for me
>>111670956>Mariyathat's the pomusister isn't it
>>111671018No I'm not. I just don't like this fake yurishit.
>kronii and mori both stirring up drama on their holo accounts while ramping up work on their rmsInteresting
So, to summarize the gook game thing.On Kronii's side.>did a shill stream of the game years ago>gook players apparently had a chinkout-level melty due to an ESL misunderstanding over a 'boar-ing' joke>nothing more as Kronii until years laterOn the game.>it was already on a steep decline>tried everything, gacha-ing mechanics, throwing lore away in favour of skimpy outfits (works for some, not for this one)>their best solution for this was to pander to the gooks and leave gaijins with a skeleton crew and minimal support>didn't helpFast forward to the near present>turns out not!Kronii had been hired as a gaijin VA for a character>nobody noticed because, of course, some holos choose to keep their stuff separate>going by their official statement, gooks had a melty and the corpo got forced to terminate her>kronii made a reference to this since a kronii incident had affected not!Kronii stuff>gooks act as if this will somehow revitalize their gameIs this it?
>>111671040Every bad review right now is because of the boar drama, fuck off tourist
doopid
>>111670956Dang this is a huge win for talent rights and could set a precedent for corpos in the future
>>111671021Yuribait implies deliberate bait with the intention of stoking yuri fever. Autofister just does autofister things
>>111671080CC cute
>>111671080
>>111671068Imagine if this thing happened with Mori and she got replaced as the singer for that weird upcoming game, the shitstorm would've been massive
>>111671052how did you get into vtubing the fake yurishit has been here since the ogs
>>111671094If anything, assuming actual yuri feelings from one of them, I'd mark it as future doomed yuri.
they just dropped a nuke onto us.
>>111671074>gook players apparently had a chinkout-level melty due to an ESL misunderstanding over a 'boar-ing' jokethis isn't even a thing until she got the job
>>111671094I know what yuribait means. This is just the usual shipper delusion>guys takamori is totally not yuribait>guys amesame is totally not yuribait>guys faumei is totally not yuribaitect
>>111671077the game's reviews have been sitting on "MIXED" for months anon, NN fucking over is not new to us
>>111671112Im not defending kronii but western VA's are so dogshit that often vtubers are the superior choice
>>111671112Eh, that's just a v-anti, because they didn't hire Kronii, gooks just had a chimpout when they discovered the VA was also Kronii.
>>111671048I wish I could get the individual tracks but given how the script is set up its a group thing. Gonna be honest Nerissa is really good at ASMR, my only criticism its that Mococo is too in character and speaks loudly sometimes, anyway have a taste:https://litter.catbox.moe/ycovticvps8258bz.ogg
>>111671093not sure if it really sets any precedence since she owned the design before joining v4m
>>111670979Its not like the 5 people who come here matter, its just another part of the endless nonsense spam in numbersCome back in 6 hours like I do
>>111671137(me)the art this guy is talking about is a skin line that also got cancelled, the artist drew a pinching emote on an art back in 2020 and people got mad at her and hundreds of work that she had done for the game DELETED
>>111671136You're so brown
>>111671074>gooks act as if this will somehow revitalize their gamewhat does make them think that exactly? all this shit only makes them look pathetic, hell im getting to know how they might be worse than fucking china. Hell at least the Coco incident was due to politics, not some fucking joke
>>111671048Shiori and Nerissa unironically have some of the better parts.Mococo absolutely fucking ruins it by screeching like a retard to the point it peaks the microphone.
>>111671116Really? Then they just discovered she was Kronii, combed through her history like insects, found something their ESL minds interpreted as negative, and chinked out?
>>111671158It's funnier when Reine is mogging them
>>111671105When I say fake and yurishit I mean stuff like autofister. Talk to me when they do some like Kiara and Raora did with the pocky.
remember kronii, there is a beeg cat ready for you everytime you are in bad mood.
>>111671112Holy truth nuke, hiring vtubers for any professional work is always going to be a net negative. The JP scene got it right complaining whenever a vtuber collabs with one of their otaku things
>>111671112>300+ hour gachaslopper standing on their high horseLmao
>>111671104That's why mori sticks to working with JP devs since the country of japan worships her
>>111671112holosissies its over
