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>>111684622
>>It’s not a HoloID thing it’s a separate branch.
To be more clear, its more than likely a JP branch not ID or EN

>>111684622
>Each Unit has 2 years to prove themselves (based on fan perception)
>Either both Units could Debut, or only one unit, or neither.
vicious, even kurosanji only locked up their liver in vta for one year

>>111684622
Because it worked SO WELL for groups like Nexas.
This is a horrid idea.

>>111684622
Sounds very stressful. I can only see this ending poorly

The next trademark was holo Emotion to be discover

>>111684622
This is horrible. If they do this be for EN, I'm going to be pissed.
If it's for JP, I will be disappointed but I will stay quiet because it's up to the JP anikis to speak up if they feel like it. Maybe this is acceptable in their culture.

>>111685012
>If they do this be for EN, I'm going to be pissed.
I doubt they CAN do this for EN. It would absolutely not be well received.

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>>111684622
>Each Unit has 2 years to prove themselves (based on fan perception)
Holy fuck what the hell are you doing cover?

>>111685012
1. 90% chance it’s for JP. All the announcements are Japanese
2. Stop being a retarded cuck. If you don’t like something you’re allowed to not like it retard

3. They probably will do this for EN (implying EN will get another gen)

Riku was always right with his VTA move. I don't know why holofans were so hostile against even discussing the idea of it. How is it not common sense?

>2 year job interview while being payed fuck all

>>111685083
its the best way to make things hostile in your company and amongst fan bases. at least niji was set up like a school, this is just hunger games vtuber edition.

>>111685041
>>111684831
>>111685012
this is what happens once you go public

>>111685059
>3. They probably will do this for EN (implying EN will get another gen)
If they do this for EN they will irreversibly taint the brand.
Hell, there's already a chance they get flak from the EN side for this, especially after setting a spark with the homo downsizing.
Nobody outside of asia would even entertain this hunger games shit.

>>111685032
Yeah, I want a comfy feeling. Not stressful deadlines and rivalries.
>>111685059
I barely watch JP, and I don't spend on them either. I am not their target audience and I won't pretend to understand their culture. So yeah, I will keep quiet on public spaces.

>>111684941
thats their holo app trademark

>>111685032
>I doubt they CAN do this for EN. It would absolutely not be well received.
Explain why an EN Idol unit wont be well received

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>>111684622
So basically it's this, but with vtubers.

>>111684925
It is a Cover side project, which more often than not basically failed

>>111685132
You're assuming "prove themselves" as having achieved some arbitrary sub count number or CCV or whatever metric that has a negative connotation attached to it. I'm assuming "prove themselves" to mean they can gel with the company and with the girls and they show signs they will stay committed.

>>111685083
Can you name a few NijiVTA ?
Are they even allowed to stream and shit and do they get money?

>>111685199
ENbabs prefer twitch hoes

>>111685199
Because every western reality competition is drama central

>>111685083
People connect the rather bland newer livers with VTA, scrubbing away inconvenient things like personality and ambition

>>111684622
https://x.com/kaelakovalskia/status/2052650698538651651
Is Kaela one of the director? I think I heard that she was an office worker before hololive.

>>111685199
Hunger games was not meant to be a guidebook.

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlzzD-dHJ1g

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>>111685223
scuffed auto translation but its right there that numbers are a key factor

>>111684622
>>Each Unit has 2 years to prove themselves (based on fan perception)
>Either both Units could Debut, or only one unit, or neither.
What the actual fuck this is so cut-throat. Smells like the kind of idea an out-of-touch japanese old fart would come up with too.

>>111684831
nigga, it's obviously going to be rigged as fuck. No way they're going to get canned even if they failed on the 'fan perception'

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>>111685226
What, as in the students themselves? No, I don't care. I just know a few graduates and they do fine.

mekpark is a really really horrible name

>>111685223
>I'm assuming "prove themselves" to mean they can gel with the company and with the girls and they show signs they will stay committed.
If it's based on "fan perception" it likely means numbers.
And you know how that goes, especially in the current climate. ESPECIALLY with how Holo refuses to invest in even their proper talents until the year mark or so. Just look at how hard each devis group struggled with their members for their first years. (Since they were a dance group with no 3D)

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>>111685041
literally batt royal trainee to get debut kek
it would be fun with daily war between the girl fanbase

>>111685312
anon im asking the channel of the vta people not what they become after graduating.
Since you said VTA is the right path to be you need to show that by showing people how the current vta people are doing not the ones who graduated

>>111685223
According to their website:
>But if they fall short of the standard, their story toward an official debut will end there
And to explain what the standard is, they show 3 points which would determine whether they stay or not and 2 of those are basically numbers: Viewership and fan Votes
So yean, it IS hunger games.

>>111685309
>No way they're going to get canned even if they failed on the 'fan perception'
They literally just downsized a branch
They absolutely can get canned.

>>111685309
Most likely they won't yeah, it's still a pretty fucked up way to put pressure on the talents. Reminds me of the retarded 500k sub requirement for ReGLOSS and how Kanade kept beating herself up about it.

>>111685199
It seems like this has precedent in Japan? But from my perspective it sounds like those trashy 2000s reality shows were the producers pitted people against each other to stoke drama.( big brother)

>>111684622
fans:
>please for the love of god start debuting new gens it's been almost two fucking years since we've had any debuts
hololive:
>ok here's an entirely different jp branch no one asked for and it's actually numberfag hunger games so one or both units may not even debut in the end

what in the fuck is yagoo smoking

>>111685345
>did Riku gain a bunch of consistent talents through his VTA program?
Yes. Therefore it's working.

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>>111684622
the signs were there...

anyone posting bets this early?

>>111685365
I still dont get where the pit thing is coming from? Like i get it 3 people 2 get successful are joined into a single unit with 2 or 3 other people?
Its not like they are forced to compete against each other?

>holostars died for this

>>111685332
literally from their site,
1. management likes you
2. you get good numbers
3. and the one most subject to disaster, fan polls. like imaging if you had gura, and biboo competing against each other, gura fans absolutely trash talk biboo on the polls leading to a bad outlook.

>>111684622
>1 director
Watch it be male and instantly tank, especially if he gets marketed upfront

>>111685375
>Yagoo
Cover Corp is a publicly traded company. Public companies are allowed to take on investors, which give large sums of money in return of . . .

>>111684622
>>Each Unit has 2 years to prove themselves
Holy fuck!
Holoblack 'out blacked' kurosanji

>>111685375
Assuming he's still alive

>>111684622
>Hololive is doing the VTA method
This will literally ruin hololive.
I can already tell their designs are super generic and boring. If they end up giving them different models and names later, that completely ruins the immersion.
This is the stupidest thing they could have done.
Hololive is supposed to be about quality over quantity. It's supposed to be about memorable designs. The reason it has found such huge success is because it is not like Nijisanji.
These girls are doomed from the start.
What a waste of a new generation.

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>>111685390
-_- you are not making sense just to let you know. We all know how livers are performing ccv and mindshare wise. For instance the girl you posted debuted in 2023 and has 452k subscribers . Her entire acheivement section is blank and fucking HOLOID girls have more mindshare than that girl

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>>111684622
I just want more cute fantasy-creature girls who like to play video games. Is that too much to ask?

>>111685439
the difference is holo rejects will still get decent followings even if they get terminated

>>111685423
OMEGABROS WE'RE SO BACK

>>111685439
Niji has the same exact thing as this called VTA. They’ve had it for years. Holo is just catching up

>>111685466
if you dont have an oshi already your concernfagging is pointless

>>111685375
in the end EN doesn't really matter, they are permanently sub-10k shitters aside from biboo

>>111685393
Not-A-chan laid it out for us as plain as day and still we refused to listen

>>111685486
And there'd been hardly anything of note added to Niji because of it.

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>>111685345
as you can see here the VTA debuts are the 2023 debuts and they make as much money as the 2018-2020 debuts(which has most of the popular organ like Kuzuha and his homo sidekicks) with half of the people so i can say VTA is a success for Riku, that is why Cover copied them with this project now

>>111684622
They're doing this because they know they can't do a JP7.

>what about Dev_is
JP2 is even more idol oriented than the original JP. Dev_literally had two ex-AKB48 members. I suspect Dev_is 3 will be all ex-idols.

If anything, this may be the safest way to do a JP7 - the bar that JP has set is too high.

>>111685495
>what even are collabs

>>111685467
They will, assuming holo's rep stays the same after this.
I doubt this'll affect the japan market. They're used to this.
But if they try to do this out west it has the potential to damage their actual EN branch's reputation among westerners.

The west already hates people's careers being toyed with and dangled in front of them by corporations. And in this case, it's the entire point. It'd be extremely easy to court public opinion against them for holding these girls' careers over their heads before tearing it away if they don't appease the japanese businessmen hard enough.

>>111685083
Because hololive is supppsed to be about the bonds between the girls. Even all the nijisanji members talk about how much closer the hololive girls are to each other than they are. If these new ones know there's a chance they won't make it and so do all the others, there will be less incentive to get to know them and they won't fit in and won't be able to establish themselves.
This program was designed by someone who should not be in charge of anything in hololive, because they fundamentally do not understand why fans love it or what makes hololive special.

>>111685486
Literally the only people in Niji in recent years to actually make waves were VTA dodgers like Meloco.
Clearly it doesn't actually work beyond exploiting them for cheap thumbnails and management work.

>>111684622
>hololive copying nijsanji yet again
this is just sad

>>111684622
Look how fucking boring their designs are. They all look the same. Holy shit this is trash. I'm so disappointed.

>>111684622
Gotta cull lazy louts like Gura or menhera troublemakers like Ao.
>>111684673
Their last EN hires were disappointing so I'm fine with no EN/ID talents.

>>111685578
Yeah, all that VTA seems to make are willing cogs in Niji's merchandising machine

>>111685199
Isn't Hololive supposed to provide the illusion that they're highly compatible hand picked talents that mesh well with each other? This survivable of the fittest competition style format seems to go against that. Isn't Nijisanji supposed to be the sink or float company, while Hololive at least tries to provide the illusion that they care about everyone?

>>111685617
That's how VTA does things

>>111685639
Yeah more or less.

>>111685397
No, but they have an incentive to sabotage each other. While in normal Hololive gens they have an incentive to cooperate.

>>111685639
We always told you the homos were the canary in the coalmine.
If something touched them despite their dogshit numbers, it means shit like this was about to go down.

The only barometer left is if Fubuki stays.

>>111684622
>Q.When is promotion determined?
>A.Promotion is decided as soon as the criteria are met, without necessarily waiting for the full two years. Your passionate support can help bring their professional debut closer.
Holy shit... it's like holostars...

>>111685375
> FLOWGLOW was 2 years ago
Time sure does fly...

>>111684622
Not a single interesting silhouette.
And they're all the same height and have the same body proportions.
What the fuck is this? It's way too boring for hololive.
This is the kind of garbage that Nijisanji does where they release 10 new members and all of them are high school themed and wearing the same uniform.
It's garbage.

>>111685639
Yeah, the optics are bad from the western side. How much of their revenue comes from the west?

>>111685466
Yagoo struck gold with those girls. You can only strike gold so many times before you just end up digging through dirt. He knows this and that's why he's playing it safe with these newer more normie focused gens.
The part about potentially not debuting because of poor numbers is pretty fucked though.

>>111685533
Were all of them VTA debuts? If i am not wrong there were 30 people who debut from jp side for 2023.

>>111685700
>passionate support
Other words, better throw your paycheck at them or they are canned. My god, this thing sounds so shit. Do they even know that vtuber market has pretty much tapped out?

Something I realized by staying in the board for over 2 year is most people speculate a lot of shit but it ends up being nothing when the actual stuff happens.
They said dev_is is a shit project and now hajime is collabing with mc donalds and raden is ambassador of mulitple museums.
Ill just wait and see how this plays out

>>111685727
Jesus fuck. Literally every idea he has copied from Nijisanji has blown up on his face.

>>111685639
It's completely against the spirit of hololive, yes.
And the fact they are basically marketed as two groups of three will hurt them severely. The five person group debit works because it allows them to build a rapport and camaraderie woth each other.
Hololive is supposed to be a family. Not a competition.

>>111685617
I'd take these "boring" designs over the godawful designs of Bae and Raora any day.

>>111685758
They know it's tapped out, and they're so stupid and desperate that they're making a reality show out of vtubers. Their next step is a Beast Games-like show for the whole audition pool.

>>111685760
Except you can literally see their silhouettes and you can already tell their designs are boring as fuck and way too similar.
Go look at Regloss and flowglow's silhouettes and you can immediately tell them apart. All of these new ones are so generic that they're all the same height.
It already sucks. They can't change models after everyone knows them.

it is not new gen you idiots, it is just groups made from hologirls that want to do more idol stuff

>>111685825
If its like VTA that sisters claim they might be able to redebut into new forms after the training period

>>111685731
Everyone after Salome from 2022 onwards has been from VTA.

But what the fuck is a mekPark

>>111685782
That's because you're an autistic loser with absolutely zero taste.
You're probably a nog and are upset that none of them have nappy afros and BBLs or some shit. Kill yourself, brownoid.

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you know what, im really into these MortalKombat auditions. they weed out the ones who only put in the bare minimum

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>>111685782
This desu

>END HOMOSTARS
>MAKE IDOL LIKE VOTE FANS ON HOLOPLUS
>SO THE UNIBROS CANT VOTE WHO GIRLS THEY LIKE
>MEKPARK ITS TO UNICORN BROS
THAK YOU YAGOD!!!

>>111685825
Ok ok we get it. You like those overdesigned fantasy creature shit. No need to repeat yourself.

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seems like someone didn't like it

>>111685839
That doesn't work for hololive.
That would destroy any and all immersion and ruin their new character if they get one.
Imagine if one of them gets a cat girl model or something and then suddenly has to pretend like all her lore and theming is cat themed, when we have already become used to her being some boring, generic bitch for 2 years.
That's stupid as fuck.

>HoloPagPag
Kek, what a name. At least they are going back to their roots

>>111685465
>eop wiki doesn't have anything about a vtuber only japs watch
yeah no shit.

>>111685833
It literally says they are pre-debut, you illiterate motherfucker.

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>>111684622
This is really dumb and 2 years is really cruel since that's a really long time for someone to get attached to a vtuber and if she ends up not debuting because her numbers were JUST short of their expectations, that's just unnecessarily cruel to force her to leave. Won't that just make fans less likely early on to not really care about a channel when initial impressions make it obvious that the runt is not going to last?

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>>111685905
What if Achrora just consists of girls conveniently taking a break?
>Lap
>Kronii
>Haachama
Rate this unit

>>111685853
You're the kind of moron who loves to call garbage designs good and have the audacity to feel smug about it.

>>111685956
of new groups you creting, do your idol reps

>>111685782
I get bae can be seen as a bit overdesigned but does raora really?

Yet another reminder that Cover going public was the beginning of the end
>B-b-b-but they were always going to! Venture capitalism!
They were doomed to fail from the get go. Reminder that this is Cover in the timeline where everything that could have gone right did. And this is still the end result.

>>111685887
That "overdesigned fantasy creature shit" is what made hololive popular and made it stick out from generic boring nijislop designs.
That's why all of hololive's main branch are all over a million subs and why hololive has the most popular vtubers in the industry, brainlet.

>>111685970
Haachama is special case so we can excuse her.

>>111684622
>Antis harass one trainee into graduating and demoralize the other two, making them fail to qualify

>>111684622
This is so Cover can debut new talent, but not have to give them any proper support or even good live 2d models until 2 years from now.
And that means they won't get 3d models until 3 years from now.
Fuck Cover.
This is dogshit.

>>111685925
this shit is gonna be the same scripted bullshit
>measuring vague metrics like fan hype
> votes on their own app
they all are going to make it, this is jsut show and whistles.

>>111685515
>And there'd been hardly anything of note added to Niji because of it.

Anon out of the top 100 Vtuber SC earners from almost half of them are VTA. Their Heroes unit with half of them from VTA are having their live at the K-Arena Yokohama.

Cover is just doing this for their own health...

>>111685354
What branch

>>111685398
THAT MAKES IT EVEN FUNNIER

>>111686016
Funny you say that since niji themselves had chuubas with those fantasy creature designs *coughLazuLightcough*

>>111684622
The most efficient way and meta to become popular indy Vtuber now is....

> joining Hololive
> bring nothing and not increase Holo fans
> sabotage their own gen mate
> make everyone suffer and force elite Hololive members fix situation.
> become part of elite Hololive members and abandoned own gen mate
> if Hololive not comply, then no stream, cause drama and spread rrat
> just wait 1-2 years and no renew contract
> graduation and reincarnation with Holofans who believe Ao and become Hololive antis.

This is method and countermeasures to prevent another Ao 2.0 who is rotten apple.

>>111686071
but imagine how funny if would be if they both failed and no one actually debuts

Cover will hire another 200 graduates to oversee this project. Your oshi still hasn't gotten a reply from management about perms in 2 months.

>>111685971
Those "garbage designs" in the rest of hololive is why they are all the most popular and most successful vtubers in the entire industry. It's why 90% of niji is generic, boring, uninspired seifuku trash and why the majority of niji talents never break 500k subs.
Your opinion has already been proven to be objectively inferior for the past 7 years.

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>>111684622
Holobronies! We have Battle Royale to watch now!

>>111686105
Holostars

>>111685199
Americans can't sing for SHIT
The Voice and AGT proves this every fucking year

>>111685961
I feel like if they did this idol competition thing in EN everyone would just follow the girls who didn't make the cut to their indie accounts.

>>111684622
I'm not sure if I like this
Will they stream before they debut?
I don't want to get attached to someone I've been watching for a year before they get unceremoniously canned

>>111685639
Ao incident happened

>>111686016
NTA but there are some good fantasy designs (Fub, Koyo) and some I'm not a fan of (Pekora, Ayame, most of the ENs). I guess it's a matter of taste.

>>111685993
Rarora's design hurts my eyes but Gigi's design and personality hurts both my eyes AND ears

>>111686119
Yeah, because Debi and LunLun aren't popular, right, retard? Those are about as uncommon as vtuber models get.
Salome has a good design and she was immensely popular. Lulu, Gibara, Ars, Ange, Chihiro, Hayama, Claire, none of those designs are generic school girl and they're also some of the most popular nijis. They're way more popular than the recent generic looking nijis.
You're just a fucking retard and your own favorite company proves it.

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>>111686247
You want her SO bad.

>>111686152
This seems exactly like the shit some small startup would pull kek

>>111686188
Yes, but it'll also cause animosity towards Holo for failing to support them and getting people's hopes up.

>>111686278
Hello Gigi

>>111686119
and that was the last time niji en was anything close to good. then the males and their fans started coming in.

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>Cover coming up with more excuses to give their "intern" talent the least amount of monetary support possible for the longest time possible
This post is a mere month old. This anon got nothing but vindication.

>>111684622
Even the reddit hugbox is dunking on hololive for doing this Niji-style tourney shit. Investors dun goofed.

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even the name UNIBRO

cheers to unicorn bros
arigatro yagoo!

>>111686370
kek!

>>111686141
Mansanji has no one but themselves to blame for their low popularity. No matter which niji girl you pick, you'd be forced to watch them collan with some random niji guy. Not to mention that company is full of yabs.

Holo is popular because they are a idol/vtubing hybrid company with alomst none of the baggage that mansanji has.

>>111684622
idc EN5 when?

>>111686254
>Debi
>LunLun
Who?

>>111686062
Yeah this is unbelievably degenerate by hololive standards. The shareholders will be pleased though.

>>111686425
>The shareholders will be pleased though.
still no buyback sorry share holders bro

>>111686278
Grems like you are so stupid

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>>111686447
They're not wrong though.
Easily my favorite of the newer fanbases. Just look at this little guy

Welp. This is it. This is the end. This is where Hololive the entertainment corpo ends and where COVER the Idol corpo begins. Hope you guys like those horror stories because they are a comin.

>>111686141
>>111686254
You really do have a thing for messy, overdesigned eyesore models, huh? You even think the models are the reason why holo is popular, not because of other stuff like concerts and such.

You're so feeble.

>>111686395
There are other idol vtubers.
Hololive is carried by their designs and the holobox, which acts as a family.
This new VTA-style trash has neither of those qualities.

And this means that they won't have 3D models for at least 3 years. This means no new outfits for 2 years. It means no support like birthday lives for 2 years.
It means they won't appear at holofes until fucking 2030.

Just make a new normal gen holy shit! Why does this need to be so retarded and complicated?

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> When kindness angel fallen down, the beast of brutality emerges.
> Do you hear ring bell of destruction?

Kanata.....

>>111686519
See >>111686520, you stupid tasteless faggot.
There will be no concerts for these new girls, btw.
Not for at least 3 years. That means no idol activities, you dumb fuck.

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>>111684622
Does Nothing. Wins.

>>111685083
>Riku was always right with his VTA move
No he's fucking not, Holo is not a Vtuber mass production factory like Niji where you kick out the underperformer and only take the best ones. In Holo, every Holomem matters.

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This is the future we are heading towards. Enjoy your oshis while they last anons. Shits about to get way worse.

>>111686342
This anon was right. Genuinely he was right and we should have never doubted him holy shit.

>>111685639
This.

The corpo numberfagging has always been kept a behind the scenes thing, as the most you'll ever directly see as a fan is the smaller holomems saying they need to 'work harder' to get a sololive which everyone acknowledges is a huge special event requiring a shitload of resources.

They're gonna try to turn it into a friendly competition thing by having the two groups compete for numbers or play multiplayer games against each other but it's just going to foster antis. If your oshi's career depends on their numbers and on competing against the other group, then why wouldn't you anti the other group? Either fan backlash will kill it or if that doesn't happen then drama will.

>>111686478
That sounds like something a dumb grem would say.

>get paired with two shitters who barely stream and don't want to collab more than an hour
>get fired because of it
Good idea

>>111686360
If only it was investors but they have zero power. Thisis 100% Yagoo / management

>>111686649
Just like Holostars fr

>>111686661
Had zero power. What makes you think they don’t have power *now*? Afterall Holostars was finally culled after being a financial black hole for god knows how many years and THAT was Yagoos passion project.

>>111686568
That has nothing to do with your deep love for crappy designs. Cry more, buddy.

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>>111685083
>Riku was always right with his VTA move.

>>111686649
And what if the one girl who streamed gets a proper debut and the two lazy louts get the boot?

>>111686583
>every Holomem matters
not anymore

>>111686743
that's not how it works since it says it's based on the GROUP's performance

>>111686062
Basically throw shit at the wall and hope it will stick? This is no better than what kurosanji is doing with their VTA bullshits

>>111686762
>one group gets all three lazy coasters
kek that would be pottery

>>111686678
Yagoo's passion project is Holoearth. He's done fuck all for Holostars in years, they didn't even know about his tea parties.

>>111685578
VTA nijis are consistently pretty successful.

>>111686582
Win what? Irrelevance?

Dumbass phaseturd.

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>>111684622
Coco.....now I understand....

>>111686792
It would be funnier to have the most popular member be stuck with two shitters trying to sabotage her

>>111686707
You already lost the argument.
None of the holo designs are crappy. If they were, they wouldn't be popular, just like most nijis.
This is your last (You), nigger.

>>111684622
will they ever successfully create pekora 2?

Lots of nijinigger and phasecuck seethe itt

>>111686757
Holostars doesn't count obviously, men don't belong in Holo

>>111684622
>Each Unit has 2 years to prove themselves (based on fan perception)
>Either both Units could Debut, or only one unit, or neither.
Not even the most devout of holodrones can possibly justify this.
Prove me wrong.

>>111686883
waiting for Fubukek to shill the idea

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>>111686813
Coco.....

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>>111684622
>be nice hardworking girl doing long streams daily for her fans
>lose to lazy grifter barely streaming once a month cause of nooombers
>gets fired after 2 years of putting in work
this shit is so stupid

>>111686899
I'm fucking miss this bitch right now unironically.

>>111686825
>None of the holo designs were crappy
NTA but
LOL
LMAO

> Bae
> Oli
> Half of Justice
> IRyS v1.0 (Even the chuuba herself hated that model)

>>111686095
And it's not just superchats. For example in terms of music sales, an all-girl ex-vta wave Idios moggs both dev_is gens, who are supposedly music-oriented. The same pattern would be with everything else, maybe except for bots, but bots don't pay.

>>111684622
Sounds fucked.
Also
>mekpark
what is that even supposed to mean? is that indonesian?

>>111685083
i guess he was right from a business perspective, but nijisanji has just gotten more and more boring
not even a holofag

>>111686920
This unit thing is dumb. Just pick the girls who worked hard and ditch the ones who didn't.

>>111684622
>Anchovy
>The B-Team
Nice unit names you got there, Cover.

>>111686920
That's streaming in general though

>>111686095
>>111686966
Nijilies
>>111686979
Based

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>>111686967
No.....

>>111686825
>None of the holo designs are crappy
Sure thing, buddy. Keep telling yourself that.

>>111686825
this is how you spot an adventbaby

>>111687010
We love Chama in this domicile

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>>111686995
Yeah, it would still be bad. But if they started with a big batch of girls and picked the best ones out of that batch to form a gen with it would make more sense. Although I imagine if one outstanding girl is in a unit with shitters then Cover wouldn't be so retarded as to just can her with the other two.

>>111686899
>>111686925
Bitch would be having an aneurism over this project if she were still in hololive

>>111686979
Mansaji hasn't been any good for a while now.

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>>111686583
This guy understands and Holochad won't left anyone behind.

This idea is so shit

>>111684622
>prove themselves
Is it working without salary or sucking manager/director's cock?

>>111684622
Instead of take care of their talent to mitigate an embarrassingly high turnover rate, Cover are using a competitive model where they have permission to treat them like shit. When your stock tanks and you have a reputation for not taking care of talent, exploitative behavior becomes acceptable because you have nothing to lose. Kind of clever, actually, in a Machiavellian way.
Meanwhile even the Redditards are 100% against this and they bootlick with the absolute best of them.

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>>111684925
They are trying to train talents that capable of sabotaging others

>>111685309
Demonstrably untrue, see Holostars.

>>111686995
Still an absurdly retarded idea unless Cover wants to turn the whole thing into some bizarre virtual big brother thing.

>>111687039
That's unsafe for work

>>111687111
>>111685354
>Comparing Holos to Homos

Homostars were give 5(FIVE) years of support and they barely get shit done. These debutees will rake in 10x their profit in their first year than the homos had in their 5 year tenure

>>111687127
my boss looked over my shoulder and said "at least pick a better Haachama image, anon"

>>111685199
EN women don't respect each other like jap. Eventually they will fuck each other up

>>111687150
You missed the point (intentionally). The statement was of branch safety. The branch isn't safe and that's been proven. Hold the L.

>>111685223
Just your assumption dude. It can be who suck investor's dick the best

>>111687150
>Holos
They're MekPark, not holo. They're as much holos as the homos are.

>>111685427
sex.

>>111685309
Maybe that's an excuse because the corpo can't afford to properly debut a new gen

>>111686583
Well, actually, unlike HoloPagPag, where the underperformer gets kicked out, VTA is there just to bring up new talents and improve their skills. The talents themselves decide whether to debut in Niji after VTA or not. The only way to get kicked out from VTA is breaking the contract which happened once and led to the 90% of members getting culled.

>Cover doing the USPS career route
Okay now that's a fucking swerve

>>111687175
ID is chugging along fine, EN is also fine despite the runts. The runtiest of runts in Holo JP also managed to buy her own home

It's a matter of fact that being a female vtuber is vastly more profitable than males, and Cover will do their best for them unlike Niji whom axed ID and KR on a whim

>>111687175
Doesn't apply to stars. They were never holo, and never will be. They were nothing but a big money sink.

>>111685639
I know. They changed. But my kamioshi already left there

Why the fuck is Holo trying to copy Niji's VTA? Yes it makes money but it's not good for the girls, it's competitive, stressful, and it's wasting their time, Holo was better than Niji exactly because they don't do something like this but now both are the same black company

>>111687206
>The talents themselves decide whether to debut in Niji after VTA or not.
Nijisanji literally canned the entire 16 person "academy" at one point.
Every single chuuba gone. stalin'd.

>>111686062
More money for investor and management, fuck this shit

Can't believe it hasn't been asked yet. Does this mean it's time bring back /brg/?

>>111687353
Holy shit that's actually a good point.

>>111687336
Damn, retards don't read the posts fully these days...

>>111686811
NTA but Phase is not irrelevant I’d argue. Now IdolCorp, Chromashift, whatever they call thenselves these days? Now THAT is an irrelevant corpo.

And no this isn’t me licking the boots of the fishman, he can be retarded and phasechuds even more so but still.

>>111686824
It would be funniest if the most popular is the laziest and the other two are grindset shitters

>>111685693
Why does she get to be a meaningful barometer just because she said she should be? It's not like she has a history of saying things that are inconvenient for Cover.

>>111687123
>Cover wants to turn the whole thing into some bizarre virtual big brother thing.
That seems to be what they're doing, they even have a voting system that's also intended to push more holofans into using HoloPlus

>>111687353
Bring it back but make it a nexas-vta-mekpak-that new corpo general so even the battle royale general is a battle royale

>>111687336
Actually they didn't get rid of all of them. An ex-vta leaker who talked to korekore revealed that some of them got to debut despite breaking the same rule as the rest of them.

>>111685693
kind of a big downer gonna be honest... I hate investor focus in company we are all going to hell in a hand basket thanks to quarterly monthly repots over long term sustainability.
Even our bread and circuses are tainted.

>>111685760
But back in reality, what people said was there was no reason for it to be a different branch and that the result was a hamstrung reach, which was true (and remains true, but I won't numberfag). You can't strawman on this board, take that to Reddit.

>>111686000
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

1 Timothy 6:10

>>111686130
i've always wondered, is being this revisionist tiring? i have to imagine being this creative must be exhausting at times. but then again maybe being entirely ahistorical is freeing in a way, never having to remember anything and all.

>>111686203
I'm completely out of the loop because i'm an EN only viewer, what the fuck is the AO incident?

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just thinking how Cover will officially do this is funny

>>111687336
They canned them because they break the VTA's rule, not because of number quota like this:
>熱量(活動データ):視聴数、同時接続数、二次創作(UGC)の盛り上がり
>意思(ファン支持): ホロプラス等でのアンケート結果

>>111684622
I don't like this. This reeks of drama and laziness of middle management. If I want to watch survivor or big brother, i'll watch those not a bunch of women wearing a mask of kindness and anime.

>>111684622
>A new talent project, hunger game style
>Unironically welcoming tribalfags, numberfags, and also dramafags into the fanbase
Someone will get harassed because the 'fans' think that she's dragging down the team.
Someone will get harassed because she wins a tournament instead of their oshi.
Someone will get harassed because she says a nothingburger. Why? Tribalfaggots.

Nice job, Cover.
I'm no longer a holofag, so, not my problem though.
Good luck out there

>>111686582
throwing your talent under the bus is loser behavior, sakana isn't an exception. both are losing.

The real question is whether all future Holo gens will come from PagPag. If so, JP 7 is 2+ years from now.

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Its funny because we all know the shitposting that is going to happen when fucking trainee accounts will get more subs than recent nijisanji and phase connect hires.
Even fucking hololive staff account mogs these turds

>>111686899
This wouldn't happen if she stay

>>111685844
>>111685873
Sorry but not all of them are from vta
Oriens have only 2 vta hires and 2 are from normal audition

>>111687847
all of the popular streamers are from VTA, they are the money maker

>>111685398
Based Yagoo

>>111687879
Disagred again. Most of the money makers are top livers like kuzuha ibrahim kanae etc. Liver groups like mechauta and speciale can only be compared to something like flowglow or Regloss

>>111687686
And you think this can't be happening to Hololive? In dog eat dog situation?

>>111687940
>Disagred again
I genuinely cannot tell what the fuck this is supposed to mean. Do ESL people just make up words?

It seems good but I don't think they're committed enough, they don't seem serious about the format at all. What do I mean? The goal should be to scout talents who are capable of growing into Holive-tier streamers (that is, 3rd gen equivalent); this is easy when you have a huge backlog of experienced streamers to take your pick of, but that well is basically dry at this point. Rolling the dice on applicants is tough, because if your standards are too high you miss talents with potential and you also screw up the cadence of new gens (if you get a god-tier applicant but you're wed to the gen format you still need to scrape together 4 other members).
So full commitment would look like an explicit launch cadence with a new group every two or three months with standards being lax but talents who can't hack it being ruthlessly weeded out ASAP. Launching just two groups with 3 members each and having a time limit of 2 years shows they're not serious and this is all just kayfabe.

>>111687949
So you conceed?

>>111687847
The auditions go through VTA too. You know there's a whole non-streaming portion of VTA students, right?

>>111687966
>huge backlog of experienced streamers to take your pick of
Sadly experienced streamers also mean there is a high possibility they might pull an Ao and jump ship later. (Ao was the experienced streamer of regloss)

>>111688049
>You know there's a whole non-streaming portion of VTA students, right?
You can't say this unless the person themselves says yes, they have been hired through VTA which is the case with the other two livers. What your statement should have been is majority of livers who debuted in the main Nijisanji branch were through vta audition, and a few through normal audition.
Saying the wrong statement will always lead to people shitting on your favourite, which I don't want.

>>111687155
Well said

Sounds miserable.
Cant wait for when a girl has a crash out and attempts because she cant keep up with the popularity stress like Hana Kimura I am sure that will be lovely for the actual holos to have to deal with their parent company being in the news cycle

>>111688055
she also had more vtuber deputs than you anons have sexpartners

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>>111685375
Coke and meth. I know because I’m his supplier.

>>111684622
>total drama island: vtuber edition
baaaaaaaased

Phase has the basement that spans from 6 months to a year. 2 years probation is sort of insane.
Is this just an extra level of draconian control managers have on talent?

>>111684622
>Make a gen where /#/fags win
>this is somehow good
What are you doing here, Yagoo?

>>111685423
Somebody in management definitely plays too much Im@s and wants to larp his fantasy.

>>111688087
What are you even talking about? VTA completely replaced the traditional audition process for Nijisanji. Admission into the academy is through audition. Some who have little to no streaming experience go through the public-facing streaming curriculum and those are the ones that stream on the VTA channel. Others who are experienced streamers go through the other courses the academy offer and those are the ones you don't see. Every unit from Ranunculus onwards (save Salome) were VTA grads. If the livers who were private VTA members never bring up their time in VTA, that's on them, that doesn't change the fact that they still went through VTA.

>>111685639
>This survivable of the fittest competition style format seems to go against that
How so? Those units aren't competing against each other. Heck, there isn't even anything stop them from working with each other

>>111684622
hunger games ass shit

>>111685439
Hololive yabs are different from the black screen. Maybe one day soon though cause this idea is horrible. It shows management lacks faith in finding talent through the traditional recruiting system. Lazy or inept despite all the spreed sheet data collectors they hire.

>>111686583
correction: Holo used to be not like Niji creating a vtubing factory. But their current leadership is so incapable they are pulling the copy Niji card again.

>>111687966
What I think has the most interesting implications is how much they will (or won't) want to participate in 3d recorded events. One if the best times to scoop up viewers is during the downtime most other talents have during recording seasons for things like FES and th EN concerts. Why participate in the concert if it means cutting into your stream time and losing one of your best chances to get more attention and possible fans?

>>111688375
Hololive yabs are different because holocucks will bootlick the company and the only people talking about actual issues with issues with the compant are people bitching and moaning on twitter that barely watch talents and think cover is a black company and every x or y issue is managements fault actually and clearly the company is doomed.

>>111687829
didn't that clio chick only stream on twitch before she joined phase? i assume the image has other dishonesty in it. how embarrassing for you.

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what should be their new slogan?

>>111688421
hilariously oblivious ESL bootlicking. so on the nose i'd almost suspect AI wrote this.

>>111688490
Your right anon I’m actually a latinx phasefag. All hail fishman he can do no wrong and isn’t a complete faggot who has people like Proctor as his main fanbase

>>111685693
Depends what you value. Hololive has gotten more and more ok with just selling the IP to whoever will give them a chunk of money, and Fubuki is more than ok with 'selling out'.

>>111688473
Together,
Let's creat an IP
Consumed by all!

>>111685246
>one of the trainees speaks ID

>>111688504
so ESL and dumb enough to think the opposite of corporate apologism is.. apologism for someone who throws their talent under the bus at the first whiff of leftoid criticism. lmao.

>>111685693
>if fubuki stays
Aaaand you forgot she RETRACTED her statement about leaving if things go tits up ages ago.

No.The actual barometer is Kiara, unironically. She is an actual ride or die for hololive, if She leaves THEN Its game over.

Holo on Holo violence and the numberfags will anti each other. I can just imagine the influx from Tower

>>111688527
>Aaaand you forgot she RETRACTED her statement about leaving if things go tits up ages ago.
Proof?

>>111688536
Yeah tower gets more schizos and esl seafags. Great.

>>111685423
fem P-san is never gonna work
The industry will think less of you
logically speaking, the producer has to be male
unless this is a LARP then the director can be a holoAN extra OL

>>111684622
Accelerate??

>>111688571
Yes. Accelerate to their demise as the tarot witch desires.

>>111688553
HoloID
>not an audience of seafags
really makes you think

They will 100% all pass if they stay.

This is clearly some additional pre-selection to filter out the bad apples/uncommitted girls

>>111685423
I actually think they might not announce the actual name of the director and use the in-character name instead.

>>111688588
To prevent another Ao?

>>111688527
Both of you are wrong. The true canary in the mine is...
Choco-sen

>>111684622
Such a fucking numberfaggot yagoo lmaoooooooo

>>111685309
If so this is a dumb way to do it. Cover wants to manufacture drama and friction to draw attention to mekpark, but this seems like a really negative way to do it.

>>111688588
It is 2026 Hololives reputation is not spotless anymore

>>111684622
there are idol tv shows like this where the finalists get to debut as a unit so wouldn't this just be a vtuber version of that?

>>111688605
If they want to prevent another ao, they should fire the retard who hired her and did not do their due diligence of background checking

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>>111687829
Yeah, she dual streams.

>>111688455
>>111688643

>>111688617
>Bro, what if we make fans feel bad that they think they aren't doing enough to support their girl so they spend MORE time and money on them?
>BRILLIANT IDEA!
That is all that can come from mentioning numbers if they actually don't matter, pure manipulation of the fans.

>>111688640
Marine?

>>111684622
That is a really realllllly brilliant idea, Yagoo. He doesn't even hesitate to officially declare that Hololive is now just a battle royale where everyone must have numbers, or they get thrown into the trash bin.