This whole thing seems so dumb in the first place. It's essentially telling viewers that these girls aren't good as holos and then also begs them to support them or the girls get axed. However the girls can also be axed if they don't fill some arbitrary criteria from the management side

holoGODS love kekky mog nambers

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>>111686460
>what if we relied on the saviorfag gimmick but for entire gens but for real this time and we'll actually fire them if they don't do anything

>>111686584
>we'll actually fire them
DYRBI

>>111686584
>we'll actually fire them if they don't do anything
lazy whores BTFO

>numberfagging
Hololive is a corporation and if you aren't a numberfag in hololive you need to fuck off immediately. I'm tired of this board and its "I'm a millennial and I'm fine with my life being over" or zoomer doomer mentality. Win or die, retard.

>holoplus
Yagoo is really wedded to his failed techbro shit.

>>111686584
>girl has a MALE yab
>get thanos-snapped out of existence
I see nothing wrong with this. Too many chicks in hololive e-begging while being basically whatever matsuri is.

>>111686460
It doesn't matter what (You) think. Investors wanted this.

>>111686621
this is a good thing ngl

>>111686460
>friendly competition
If your horse loses too many horse races they're a bad racehorse. This is a good idea and Nijisanji has seen great success with VTA so Cover absolutely should follow suit.

>>111686740
this is not friendly competition. this will cause at least ONE suicide when someone's oshi of 2 years is fired without a real goodbye because her group didn't sell as much merch as the other group despite him emptying his life saving to try and keep her alive

>>111686740
VTA never had the members compete with each other over ccv, this is just going to make the girls hate each other, it's like when Rushia was seething behind members because someone was streaming during her timeslot or overlapped her stream.

>>111686834
>VTA never had the members compete with each other over ccv
Every single New niji debut is essentially 4view or 3 view
What CCV are they going to compete 2 view?
Like litreally you cannot even share a single vta channel and say hey look this person was successful during VTA days look at their channel during VTA days

>>111686834
and it's not just CCV apparently according to the site since they describe fan support as including fan creations like fan art and shit. Imagine being forced to graduate because your design wasn't lewdbaity enough for some fan artist to include you in an art trend.

>Sorry, your golden week bikini art didn't get as many likes as another member, so you're fired

>>111686740
>and Nijisanji has seen great success with VTA
Such as...

>>111686740
What great success? Which supposed VTA debut is actually successful and not just another body in the Niji army of Vtubers?

>>111686610
They literally just downsized holostars, and Yagoo LIKED them.
This is a disaster waiting to happen.

>>111686460
>mfw /#/ actually won
GRIM.

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>>111686949
niji's vta female group Idios outsell both Regloss and Flowglow

Oh, so this is how they're going to debut new talents from now on? What a wild choice, especially given some talents take a year or two before becoming their gen's most popular.

this does sound insane in paper but i strongly believe that they'll let every talent pass unless one majorly yabs.
it's basically just a charade and a LARP, they know people will lose their shit if a cute girl "doesn't make it" based on numberfagging lol

Nexas and its consequences

>>111687544
Dude they nuked a whole branch...
>buh-buh they are homos
Don't funking care, they are clearly going for the classic current "profitability over everything" now that they are a public company. And that was a clear sign of it.

never mind the absolute poison it will be for any collabs and the general vibes of all streams in general, there is now active incentive for you to shit on your non-oshi and try to drag their numbers down by any mean necessary, in order to have your oshi survive.

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>>111687143
>cd sales = popularity
This doesn't work when there are batshit crazy women involved, anon...

>>111687544
Even if it's all performative, fandoms tend to get extremely toxic on there survival show type things

>>111687868
holocope

What does this mean for participation in things like FES, EN concerts, or the World Tour? One of the best times to scoop up new viewers from other talents is during those extreme lulls caused by events like those, especially for new debuts who aren't in it because they don't have their 3d model yet. Why participate when you could try to gain more viewership and members during those periods instead?

>>111687868
I can fix her

>>111687868
Idios is an all female group

>>111686460
Now /#/ really does become a Holo on Holo war ground. Fucking poetry.

They will 100% all pass if they stay.

This is clearly some additional pre-selection to filter out the bad apples/uncommitted girls
Look how gen 5 lost a member early
Look how gen x had massive marketing and produced a quitter, a anxious ninja, a complete wasting talent brat who tried to use holo a stepping stone
Look how regloss 1-2 struggled

>>111688546
>They will all pass
Says who? Do you think this is some plot to create bigger sympathy for runts and pumps numbers more or something?

>>111686460
>InteIntention (fan support)n: Survey results on holoplus, etc
>In particular, "intention (fan support)" is the largest weight of the judging
Is this how they force us to use holoplus? "Post on holoplus or we terminate your oshi"?

>>111686509
This. basically a branch they can cut anytime without hurting the Holo brand

>>111688596
Is a filter about work ethics and basic streaming ability/behavior
At least one will quit for "corporate streaming is not for me", that's the point, to filter those.

>>111688779
How does any of that correlate with viewership numbers? Just look at someone like ERB, who's in the lower half of EN's hours streamed. She's still the most popular because of an extremely early boost through doing a ton of karaoke and being good at singing.

>>111686460
The retard that ran NEXAS must think he hit gold and the world wasn't ready for his horrible Battle Royale audition concept

I like the idea of holo having like an idol training bootcamp but it would have to be relatively unknown vtubers. Rather than it being a competition it should be more like trainees learning how to sing and dance etc. Essentially polishing diamonds in the rough.

>>111688779
>At least one will quit for "corporate streaming is not for me", that's the point, to filter those.
They can quit normally too. What happens to the rest of the gen if they have to keep up while short a member, are they just screwed?

>>111686460
Such a bad idea. It’s a sad world.

>>111688830
and a guy buying a ton of views to spite everybody that hates Elizabeth ReBroadcast cough cough cough

>>111688864
>Bootcamp for idol work
I've got enough people not streaming in my branch already, thank you very much. Give me someone who gives a shit about consistancy for regular entertainment.

>>111686460
Can't wait for the inevitable:
>crash out on stream due to lower popularity
>someone being isolated by the group because they don't get big noomers
>saviorfags viewbotting so bad it gets a channel banned
>someone just quits because they feel they are bringing the unit down
this is what people thing VTA is, but actually isn't (its still bad, but not this bad). This is much much worse.

>>111688830
Dude, members (who pay) are more important than plain ccv/subs, ERB is fine for that.
Her actual problem is the lack of original songs and albums to sell.

>>111688871
Nothing will happen, the race is fake, they are 6 member gen.

>>111688894
Gotta try and convince more advertisers your newer gens will be worth buying the IP of somehow. With the decrease in NOOMBERS for all of the talents/groups after HoloX, Cover needs to show their numbermonkey partners that they're worth investing in.

>>111686460
>there's not enough competition for us out there, let's make our own internally
Uh, alright. So what happens to fans of the girls who get Old Yeller'd for any reason or no reason at all? They're just supposed to move over and support the ones that killed their new oshi? This seems ill-conceived.

>>111687869
Yeah, there are still people shitting on an artist I like that won one of those because they're bitter their favourite didn't win instead, and it's been like a year now. This will be terrible.

Entire gens based around the Kiara/Nerissa model of ever more desperate sub begging.

>>111686460
Finally something good. New holos are lazy. With this, they will at least try to work hard if they don't want to be sacked.

>>111688697
Thats how you get your service swarmed with bots.

>>111686509
QRD on this?
Is the a new JP group like DEVIS that they for whatever reason just dont want to call Hololive?
Whats the difference? From my understanding they make them compete with each other for a permanant spot and the ones that get no views/subs can fuck off again?

>>111686584
>we'll actually fire them if they don't do anything
Kino, pure kino.

>>111686509
If it turns out someone like Ao or a lazy bum like Gura, they are going out. O-U-T, out!

>>111688944
Not for selling the IP they aren't

>>111690410
Gura's numbers would put her at the top of the whole lot, lazy or not.

>>111687808
Get over it already, homosister. Your branch was a just dead weight and a money sink. And in case you forgot, homostars are NOT hololive. They never were, and never will be.

>>111690410
>>111688736
Honestly, it's Genius. This is why Yagoo is ahead of every other CEO. He actually innovates.

>>111690410
Funny you say this, because someone who acted like Gura would still be in if she pulled the numbers Gura pulled. It's not like this actually kills off lazy fucks who won't stream, it just incentivizes pounding the pavement hard on entry, skipping out on things that won't get viewers, and becoming the most generic, approchable talent possible to absorb as many casuals as possible.
Also if there's an EN set of these, expect them to pander hard to JP because they won't have a shot without some JP fanbase. It's why FWMC went so hard chasing numbers and splitting their content to about a 4 to 1 English to Japanese streaming.

>>111686778
thats based
its like real idols

>>111690502
Noombers are jack shit if the talent in question barely streams.

>>111687437
theyre given 2 years you illiterate retard

finally. i've been talking about hololive survivor and voting out girls for years. they read my posts here. i know it. no need to compensate me for my idea yagoo, i'm just happy you listened to me. this will be so kino to watch.

>>111686460
>Somehow Nexas returned

>>111688422
Fujo means rotten for a reason.

>>111688922
Shut up phasepag

>>111690704
Why yes, I would like lazy fucks who use idol work as an excuse to cut down heavily on their streaming output after the first year!
Fuck yourself, very few talents actually keep up their pace after starting the idol shit. It'd be fine if they managed to stream somewhat consistantly outside of the 'busy periods', but far too many of them fuck over their daily-ish content with this horseshit as their excuse

>>111686584
the sounds insane, definitely gonna watch, I hope I don't like any of the girls tho kek.

>>111690330
It's a new branch like DEV_IS, but ACHRORA and Unit B aren't considered real groups until management deems them worthy of an actual debut. They have 2 years to do so, but it seems that each group lives or dies together, so they aren't directly competing with one another.

>>111690894
But they ARE competing to prove they're worth investing in in a public trial of sorts, which means it'll be rife with menhera breaks and spastic attempts for attention. If people thought Kiara was annoying with her numbers mind and thought she was a leech way back when, they haven't seen anything yet.

>>111686460
I'm looking forward to vtuber bloodsports

>>111691011
That's assuming it's all about numbers, if they announced that some of the girls were fired because they didn't hit a subscriber quota that'd cause an insane backlash. I think it'll be a mix of that and also seeing how driven they'll be to pursue Hololive as a career and the lazy bums would get shafted.

>>111691225
Being a lazy bum doesn't stop Cover from getting money

>>111691272
Then why would they set this up at the first place? If they don't care about performance and drive because they'll squeeze money out of the girls' image anyway why not just introduce them as a regular generation?

>>111686509
idgi. does cover want me to support people who might not get in for whatever arbitrary reason the management decide? why would i get invested in the first place.

>muh numbers
You know there is no metric they can be under that that will be the reason they won't be offered a debut, if only because they'll be saviorfagged by the holo fanbase anyway. It'll entirely depend on their activity.

>>111691387
Cover's betting on the viewers not knowing that and becoming more invested in the new units than they did with DEV_IS, driving up engagement, profits and HoloPlus users.

>>111691559
To add to this anon, even assume by some disasters they get "shit numbers" (under what standards? Cover clearly didn't specify there), there is always that fallback right on OP's pic
>In particular, "intention (fan support)" is the largest weight of the judging, and everyone's pure desire to continue watching this unit and this talent will determine their success or failure
That is vague enough that they can pass anyone they want because there is no way any of them will get 0 fan support at all

>>111686460
>numbers
Non-issue for female holo talent.

>>111691387
It's a reality show to gather supports for those girls so they can have better start (which benefits Cover, too). It's that simple.
It's like DEV_IS's 2.5M total subs goal. The outcome was mostly decided from the start, the process was just there to gain more supports - no different from how AKB's documentary movies showed their members having to get on street and sell their own tickets to their shows during early day, or literally fainted and hyperventilated behind the stage during their concerts.

Likely they'll get enough support on debut to be considered a success already, but have to go through a humiliation ritual for a year or so. Fucking retarded desu

holo's advantage is hako oshi and all girl love and peace culture. why throwing it all away, even vta is nothing near this level of survival of the fittest

idol survival show is nothing new in kpop and jpop, but 2 years is way too long, unless they pull an acxtually everyone gets to debut it's gonna be a shitshow

One thing to note is that the audience demographic for idol survival shows skew heavily towards female, regardless if the idol participants are male or female, so this may also double as an attempt to bring in more female fans into the fandom.

>>111692200
>bring in more female fans into the fandom
so this is how cover chooses to die...

>>111686460
this is interesting because this is the same process for industry K-Pop/J-Pop idols. Previously we've had v-tubers in multiple corps who didn't make the cut for being an IRL idol/musician and ended up being vTubers instead. I wonder if the trainees who succeed will end up having a large proportion of skill set/personality similar to Suisei where they aren't interested in streaming, but are using it as a means for an alternate music career like Suisei. The next stage of Vtubers is for increasing IRL legitimacy, so we may also be seeing more 2.5D content going forward especially if there is truth to Cover making decisions that would be appealing to get acquired by Bandai Namco

>>111690510
This is just the Niji VTA shit but worse. They're throwing interns at holopedos and if they donate to them all the cash goes to cover since supas are not part of their "salary" which is probably nothing.

>>111686460
Sounds like something good for the company but not for me as a watcher. In fact I hate it.

>>111692331
Bandai Namco has no reason to purchase Cover when they already have several successful 2.5D idol franchises of their own (Idolmaster, Love Live, Aikatsu) and have also dabbled in VTuber / VTuber-adjacent stuff in each franchise (3.0 Vision, Hasunosora and soon Aqours, and Aikatsu Academy).

>>111692478
>Niji VTA took in dozens Vtubers. Passed a handful of them (less than half). Doesn’t pay shit
>MekPak is going to take in 6 VTubers and likely will pass all of them. Pay them salary so it won’t be a waste of their time either
How is it worse?

>>111692703
MekPak will be live talent out there broadcasting with superchats on who will see zero of that until they "full debut" in TWO YEARS, I understand you're retarded because you know, holocattle but at least at the bare minimum you should try using your brain.

>>111692703
one is a school and the other is a reality tv competition

>>111692743
Again, how is it worse when it's still more beneficial for them than VTA "potential livers" making nothing during their VTA journey? I don't care if Cover benefits from it, too

>>111692743
No indication whatsoever that they won't be getting money from SC on top of the bare minimum salary, btw

>>111693069
Cover said that they will be
>Trainees are supported through a fixed compensation model, allowing them to focus fully on their creative endeavors without concern for revenue.
so that's the indication depends on how you interpret it

>>111686460
>Activity level (activity data): ... level of engagement in fan-made content (UGC).
>In particular, "will (fan support)" is given the greatest weight in the judging process, and your genuine desire to "continue watching this unit and this talent" will determine whether you pass or fail.
This criteria is pretty fucking retarded too, because success/failure can easily come down to the model/design the company ends up giving you. Someone who gets a shit design will have a much more difficult time meeting this criteria than someone who gets a sex goddess model.

>>111693162
Lucky they are judging this based on the entire unit / group as a whole instead of individual, then. It's unlikely that the entire group looks like shit

>>111693162
imagine getting an IRyS 1.0 model and just seeing a wide sub gap on predebut. I think you should just quit on the spot instead of going through a 2 year humiliation ritual

>>111692609
Sure they do, rather than continuing to develop tech and marketing themselves, they buy a company already doing this and then just integrate those staff and tech into those existing IPs like you mentioned or use them to bolster other IPs that currently don't have that presence. Remember both companies had that similar hard on for metaverse and other money sinks.

>>111686460
Holoslop

this is so fucking retarded

>>111686937
I really like Meruto and Ruri, not sure about great success financially but I'm glad the sex goddesses are here

>>111693803
Very fitting for cover to do retarded shit.

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>>111686584
It's been done before

>>111686667
>whatever matsuri is
a mentally ill attention-whore?

>>111686460
Nah, this is an amazing idea. It will make that only the best of the best remain. They saw how many shitters niji's vta produced and instead found a way only top tier makes it.

Yeah imagine a company taking in interns. Work with them to see what they can and cant do, then offer a potential contract based off their work done as a intern. Yeah how can they do such a thing its not like this happends litteraly everywhere wow

>>111686584
>Three Generations of Homostars!
>Girls? I guess we can open a side branch where they won't contaminate our Holo brand and we can get rid of them if they don't make enough money

>>111686460
As a holo hater, I think this is great idea, taking a bunch of attention seeking girls compete with each other in public for everyone to see will be great for the Holo brand. Nothing can go wrong here, perfect idea

>>111686460
Is this from that one audition Nene mention in her stream?
With the minimum requirement being university graduate and fluent in English.

>Hololive basically kills Holostars
>They immediately start a numberfag Battle Royale program

Speed running black corpo behavior

>>111693838
nexas did a shit job at it. run by a crypto bro. forced them to stream on some app that wasn't even in the app store. used AI to gen models.

>>111694282
>and fluent in English
Huh

>>111693838
Not gonna bother but I imagine reddit defending it because hololives does it.

>>111686460
Investors demand infinite growth. They literally have the minds of a cancer.

>>111693838
>BR
Not the same, then. Holo's is going to pass everyone

Talent contests always suck. Not watching any of this.

This is based. Lazy, grifting ewhores get OUT.
>but-
Cope.

>>111686460
Too many people with participation trophies giving their loser opinions in this thread

>>111686460
This is just an all around retarded idea
>sorry your oshi of 2 years is gonna die cause she didnt meet the numbers

>fall in love with some 2d girl
>she gets gonged for /#/ faggotry

>>111698855
Alternatively
>oshi this girl while we make her wear training wheels for the next two entire years before she gets to join in with the holos 100%

>>111693838
is one of these honest to god named Tecmo Koei

>>111686460
>literally VTA but worse because its sink-or-swim for everyone
How do you outblack the Vantablack company?

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>>111692703
For what it's worth VTA is essentially a free streamer course. You don't pay anything, you don't have to join though you're basically fucked out of free success if you don't, and nobody else fails if you're shit or decide to quit. Even if you're shit you can still debut, plenty of VTA members were boring as VTA members and at least some of them stayed boring after they debuted. Also all of the members are on equal footing, no managers or directors or whatever the fuck theu are getting the boot with them.

Literally the only comparative upside is the salary and that Hololive = success (which might not even be a factor because they're not Hololive and even if they were it'd depend on how much success Cover wants), but otherwise it's worse in every single regard to the point where neither of those things can be seen as a real boon in their favor. Genuinely retarded move.

>>111686460
eh, I guess theyre tired of the grifters only joining for a while for a quick indie boost later; but in the end of the day this is just a waste of time

>>111700364
What grifters have joined just for an indie boost? Ao-kun, maybe?

>>111686460
Things like America's Got Talent do great

>>111686778
Oh please, we all know even if some bitch gets the axe she'll just reincarnate as an indie 2 weeks later. Graduations mean nothing anymore.

Jesus, Mori, Kiara and Shiori vocalizing issues suddenly now makes sense...

I love this thread, I get to see what hololive fans really think about the girls they claim to support.

>>111700364
if that’s the case, they shouldn’t be doing this. any girl who gets eliminated will automatically be promised success in her new persona. look at the selen shit for example, people love banding together to hate a black company. in fact, if any of those girls are smart, they should do exactly this grift. they’ll unironically make more money that way

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>>111700985
>she'll just reincarnate as an indie 2 weeks later.
Yes, but without the resources of hololive, retard.

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>>111701427
>she'll just reincarnate as an indie 2 weeks later

>>111701427
what resources? is their name hoshimachi suisei? if no, why give resources?

>>111693838
how is poette doing nowadays?

>holobox except you can't interact with anyone in the box unless you beg for enough subs and sleep with the executives
genius

This is horrific. This is "Line Must Go Up" in VTuber form.

>>111698702
a homofaggot made this

Place your bets on which drama will sink this terrible idea first
>someone gets bullied to suicide by the other team
>someone gets caught botting their views for a competitive edge
>someone gets caught sleeping with a manager to make it through the elimination

>>111701925
she tried to tell us
we didnt listen

>>111700136
>VTA is a free school
More like free content for Anycolor.
It’s funny seeing people justify anything in the entertainment industry as “free” or “educational.”

>>111701989
I imagine the first bit of drama will be fans complaining about overlap directly to talents on stream.
CCV will actually matter and the most die hard fans will see overlap as a personal attack on their oshi.

>>111701989
3 already happens so probably the other two

>>111702165
That's an angle I hadn't even thought of. Fans are bound to take the 'competition' far more seriously than Cover intends and the resulting fandom will be absolutely cutthroat.
I wonder if we'll get some old fashion jtv-style raiding.

>>111686460
>popularity of fan works will be taken into account
jesus christ

>>111702127
>More like free content for Anycolor.
Incorrect. A majority of the members of VTA don't even stream or have a name.

I won't say there isn't a catch but by definition it is free as nobody is paying any money and only giving their time. Just because there's a 50% chance it'll lead to nothing doesn't change that fact.

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>>111701229
............Coco definitely hate this shit.

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>>111701539
Now....I understand more and more why she said about no reincarnation.

>Ao incident that bleeds Hololive
> Nagifaggot and VMarie virgin
> now MekPark project

She chose this part to not make Heimin feel betrayed by her so she will never return to make her life more "weight"

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>>111700985
Say this in front of Heimin and Haatons anon....

>>111686460
>>111686509
What the fuck is Hololive doing?

>>111703384
Then the mekpakpak thing is even better because they actually got paid. At the end of the day, both are still jobs designed mainly for the benefit of the company, no matter how much you try to cope about it.

>>111702127
Anycolor doesn't monetize the vta channel, basically they are losing money to run it, unlike cover who will monetize the trainee channel

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>>111701229
luv me girls
'ate corporate suits
simple as

>>111686460
if they fail they'll just bot them like they do with Bibou

>>111686460
>>111686509
>>111686584
NIJISEETHE

>>111707449
holomonkey

>>111707636
You out yourself too easy nijinigger

>>111707878
ook ook

THE NIJIFICATION OF HOLOLIVE IS PROCEEDING AS PLANNED

>>111707449
>>111707878
If you hate niji you hate holo, simple as

>>111686584
Funny, my sister recently showed me the alien stage stuff. I choose to imagine the failed girls will get the same fate

>>111694103
>Hire a bunch of gaijin whores who won't stream
>Waste an ungodly amount of time and money on a shit game revolving around your talents that literally no one other than your fanatics would even consider
>Strike down those gaijin whores' ideas making them wanna stream even less
>Invest in more space for 3D stuff for talents? Upgrade the live 2D rigging and software to current industry standards? HAHAHAHAHA, here's another Minecraft slop event
>Can't keep a full gen to save their lives unless it's the tiny homocollabers in ID
>"It's the homos' fault!"

>>111686667
Matsuri is for the unicorns now

>>111712137
AIYEEEEE!
WE WANT THE FEMALE AUDIENCE!
HANDLE ME THE FEMALE AUDIENCE RIKU!

>>111713020
It's just a facade. She'll drop the act once she gets what she wants

>>111686460
Is this Battle Royale 2, Hololive version? Of all the business models to copy lmao

>>111715003
Not much of a Battle Royale when you don't have any to compete against, is it? They are judged together and will pass together as an unit after all

There is a reason why /#/ is called THE MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD on /vt/. Even gunrun hired cronies to shit on holo in that thread but failed

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>>111686584
Hot take - Cover will not continue the initiative after these two gens because of the bad press it will generate. If they DO continue it, Fubuki and Sora will quit.

>>111686460
lets treat vtubers are numbers cattle. send the losers to the slaughter house.

>>111717169
So are the winners used as breeding stock?

>>111686460
Ironically, this is the most "idol-like" thing Cover has done in its entire existence.

>Retarded anons always cry about Cover hiring lazy whores and homocollabers who end up being runts because they do not adjust to their autistic taste.
>Cover starts an initiative to give retarded anons the power to actually avoid hiring lazy whores and homocollabers who end up being runts because they do not adjust to their autistic taste.
>Somehow this is le bad.
Kekarooo, I love this retarded board.

>you know that shit that made Hana Kimura kill herself? let's do that but with vtubers

>>111694641
why are you being defensive over Cover picking on the shittiest ideas to hit the vtubing scene?

>>111715572
>There is a reason why /#/ is called THE MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD
That's sad

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>>111715049
this is literally textbook K-pop batte royale

>>111686460
Fuck off tourist, this is Japanese culture. Have you never thought about how big idol groups like AKB48 work? It's a literal popularity contest, with a built in ranking of the girls popularity based on a number of data points including merch sales, sales of singles, sponsorships, etc.

All numbers are fake and botted.

>>111717102
>Fubuki and Sora will quit.
That would be a net positive for Cover

>>111701312
NIJISEETHE
Doki was already well loved before the black stream. She didn't grift anyone.

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>>111720147
>Doki was already well loved before the black stream. She didn't grift anyone.

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>>111720214
Don't ever let me catch you posting my oshi in the catalog ever again.

>Unless you suck 4 cocks in 2 years, you are not qualified
>What if you want to try again for the second time? Too bad, you are blacklisted
>Self entitlement, toxic hatred and the sudden spike in rivalry? Not their problem
Grim

>>111720968
This isn't about you

>>111686460
grim

>>111687544
>i strongly believe that they'll let every talent pass unless one majorly yabs
why would they even do this shit if that was the case? just so they can keep their supas and not put them in fes for 2 years? pretty awful

>>111686460
>Numberfagging after driving out your biggest hitters
Hololive is giving some contradictory messages

This idea is pure dogshit. I don't need them constantly pitybaiting because they're afraid they're gonna get let go at the end. I hope this is a JP only thing, leave it to them.

>>111726548
The mind of the corporate executive is a marvel to behold

>>111701925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbVqTUjBe9U
damn...

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>>111686937
>Such as...

>>111712592
>my sister showed my alien stage stuff
Anon, your sister is a lesbian...

>>111726548
they truly forgotten what made the girls popular to begin with. No longer gonna be about authenticity or originality. Everyone is gonna be fake and manufactured like the average kpop star, all fit to suit whatever corporate entity.

>>111719677
No it won't. Fubuki's departure will be the death knell for Hololive.

>>111728733
Such as?

>>111729126
>only pretending to being retarded

>>111729168
>Success

>>111717102
Probably and they and Holodrones are surprised why people question such side ventures, ignoring how they often end badly.

How much VTA credit did this person get for posting here?

>>111729235
>baby's first troll

>It actually think it makes a sound argument.

>>111729444
Yeah, shouldn't expect better from holopigs. .

>>111729537
You won't be able to get enough credit for your debut with this performance.

>>111729592
yeah, mekpark is a shit idea.

>>111686990
Its #interns Pet Project, to prevent another Sakamata/AO who just dipped after a few years

>>111729610
It’s a good idea, like VTA. Both of them are scummy practices designed to lower the cost of debuting permanent members.

Cover is starting to flail about trying to reverse its decline. Unfortunately, idol groups typically peak within their first 7 - 10 years, and then decline. All popular idol groups follow this trajectory. I've never seen a big one recover to its past peaks.

>>111729742
>Both of them are scummy practices
Last I remembered, vta members are not pitted against each other in some "next top model" reality show.

>>111729822
There’s nothing like pitting them against each other. There’s no elimination based on rankings. They’re the same. If you perform well, you debut. If not, you’re out.

Finally stfu huh.
Both companies should just grow a spine and cull the shitters out of the company once their contracts expire rather than using exploitative trainee programs and acting like they’re doing something good for the industry.

>>111729902
>If you perform well, you debut. If not, you’re out.
Still sounds scummy, especially the two year "training period" to even debut in holo. Biggest waste of time for anyone getting involved in this.

>>111729328
>no argument
>better blame some boogeyman
lmaooo

>>111730621
Yeah it's pretty weird. Two years is already a big commitment to ask from someone, and they're going to be held back from being a bona fide Holo until after. The real job starts after two years. Crazy time commitment. How long of a career do they really think they'll have with this?

>>111730621
All trainee programs are scummy. And it’s two years before getting culled not two years before getting promoted.

And let me give you extra context on how these trainee programs came to exist.
Think about the power dynamic between talents and companies. When does the company have the most power over the talents? The answer is pre-debut. That’s why the longer they keep people in the pre-debut stage, the more leverage they have. No matter whether they call it friendly competition or an academy, it’s still just a trial period before committing to a long-term contract.
One of the problems these companies have is how much power talents can gain after getting full exposure. Holostar is an interesting case. A group that probably contributes less than 1% of the revenue can still create backlash when projects get canceled. The same goes for the Selen case, which blew up the entire branch overnight.

>>111729053
I've said Cover, not hololive. Fubuki fucking off would mean they gain complete control of the entire vtubing business and the girls have noone to protect them.

At this point use AI to pilot avatars and thats that...if they want slop that much. A company with the size and the connections Cover has should be able to help talents with growing not bring people and tell them that if they dont find the golden goose in 2 years they get fucked. Have they really been sitting with their thumbs up their asses for a decade? Bloodsports is just sad. This is an atrocious idea and only people who worship the company like this shit. You can't have an actual oshi and think that she is safe in this kind of an environment

>>111735408
>At this point use AI to pilot avatars and thats that
Don't worry, HoloAI is gonna being the new hot thing for yagoo to push.

>thread full of nijitrannies having a melty and gossiping like women
It's too easy

>>111733205
Yeah and Hololive will die.

>>111735792
>board full of holopigs having a melty and gossiping like women

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>>111730621
>>111731117
>>111731428
I'm an Idolfag. No fucking way a two year period is in any way acceptable for what essentially survival shows.
And worse yet, the fixed team system of Memepark would mean there will be a black sheep that drag the rest down.
If they want to do survival show, they should go with dynamic team composition and individual judgment.

>>111720214
Kill yourself subhuman scum

>>111729537
Shut the fuck up nijitroon

>>111735792
Well, it obviously exposed how sketchy VTA is to the public, so of course they’re malding.

>>111686460
They really looked at Mori's Overkill video and didn't realise it was a critique.
They train them for two years - they don't make it = all those resources that could be better spent on the existing talent / massive hate for no gain.
What even is the point?

>>111736417
LOL no it won't retard. Hololive will ALWAYS be the biggest vtubing agency no matter what, millions of girls will try to get there every year. And let's be honest: fubuki is irrelevant, Suisei mogs her hard.

>>111686460
It's okay when Nin---Hololive does it!

>>111739557
What

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>>111741490
Anonchama.......Fubuki death mean Ikkisei gen death with her....Matsuri will graduate and no one protect Haachama anymore and Miko definitely hate this shit and may slap Suisei for real if she say that in front of Miko.

Not only that Gamer will be eternal ruined, Mio, Okayu and Korone definitely not quite about and this should include Ayama and Subaru as well.....

Think before become graduation begger and numberfaggot at the same time

>>111741721
>esl retard
>thinking a failed has-been like fubuki has any power
KWAB

>>111741748
She actually has anon and Hololive will be burn if management becomes too asshole.

If you underpform in your job you'll get fired. How is that any different here?

>>111686584
Well at least there won't be any Guras in this gen, but I much prefer soft measures and warnings, not hard numbers to stop this kind of Guraness. Numbers are too cruel, especially with someone who works hard but may just not get high viewership.

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>>111686460
Even numbermonkeys don't care about that shitfest, it's truly a grim branch.

>>111728733
Success nowadays is throwing literal whos 50 times at the wall and none of them actually being relevant. You'd do exceptionally well as a manager, SEAster.

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>>111741779
Delulu cope

>>111739557
and hololive is copying VTA lmao
what a black company

Do we even know if this will be JP only thing or EN and JP both?

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>>111743976
Both units use Japanese
Also SEX with this Unit B member

>>111743819
Completely normal in basically every field. The idea sorta matches what they're trying to do so it's only natural somebody would pitch it.

>>111691387
cover can get merch, sponsorship deals and stuff if they do well within those 2 years at the same time have a reason to not give them the same compensation as the hologirls or even dev_is as they aren't really "in" yet

>>111742350
just because you aren't pay attention doesn't mean they aren't relevant, holopag.

lol in REAL LIFE /#/s actually matter, gee guys this vtuber has a lot of /vt/ fans but makes no fucking money lets keep them around

>>111686460
>spend the past 5 years chimping out over every infraction against """idol culture"""
>company does something that is explicitly in line with actual real idol culture
>chimp out anyway
i don't get it.

>>111757012
/vt/ likes the part of idol culture where they get to control women and schizo out, not the part where the shady black corpo businessmen control women and force them to compete against each other

>>111747164
>you aren't pay attention
>holopag
nijitranny seamonkey

>>111757283
>holopig arguing skills

>>111757187
>not the part where the shady black corpo businessmen control women
They wouldn't be worshiping yagoo if they didn't.

>>111753226
I think a lot of vtubers had a lot less #'s and salary at the beginning of things, and people were more positive. Is something not real without a corporate stamp of approval?

>>111757320
The girls kept telling everyone that the techbro CEO was a good guy and cool and kept putting him in things. Somehow that led to people thinking YAGOO GOOD at least early on when nobody is that reverent about the boss at any modern company unless something is up