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>>111715068Theres a thing called "Schedule streams" in case youre a Twitchnigger
Reminder that ID makes less money than the boys and Mekpark will make even less money than ID.
>>111715106Hmmm cover doesn’t think so
>>111713510>So the idea of girls fighting against each other and the concern fagging is also false news or someshit?They're working as a unit and not fighting against each other. Fan support is guaranteed, it's about if the girls can handle being a hololive vtuber and not flunk like Ao.
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Can mekpark handle this kind of SC?
>>111714896the lesson that they learned from vta was that doing it publicly was stupid, having a process where they give people technical training on being a streamer and not just grabbing a girl, putting a phone in front of her face and then going okay now stream, is generally a good idea, but it being public made it pretty awkward, because if people get rejected then the people who liked them will be pissy, it's pretty awkward and leads to bickering when someone doesn't make it through, so eventually vta just moved into being a background process that isn't public, I feel like the same thing would just happen with cover's shit too, if no one fails then what's the point? if it's a one way ticket to hololive then why not just put them into hololive in the first place? and if people fail, as it's intended, then it'll lead to awkward situations and bickering from people who liked them, it's kind of a self contradictory system really, debuting a vtuber is a promise between the company and the viewers that she will produce content and there's a point in supporting them because they will keep being active, of course graduations break this promise and that makes people mad but in principle the promise is there, while with an exam process you're not promised that the girl you like will join the company, so what's the point? you're supporting someone who might "graduate" so to speak at any time, there's no promise that they'll be active, but if that promise doesn't exist then why are you supposed to support them? and if you do support a girl, and then she fails, then how are you supposed to feel about that? you can't even be sad or angry like you could about a real graduation, it's an awkward situation where well you were never promised anything to begin with so what did you expect
New Miko-anti buckbreaking spotted
>>111715128Please cover, drop EN5 for her sake
>>111715106These people are so fucking dumb
>>111715130phasejeets don't give a shit about JP
>>111715127The retard you're replying you doesn't have the comprehension to actually read the site. Every concerntroll about mekPark gets disproved if you actually read the site
>fillian gone>Mekpark announced I don't want to speculate but the signs are there
I still don't like the idea and believe it's extremely unfair towards the new girls, they already passed the audition, why make them go through a potentially 2 year audition again? What if they really underperform and now their confidence is ruined because they perceive themselves as not good enough for hololive/not wanted by the fandom? If they won the audition already then they should be treated like queens right away with all the benefits a holo has. It's kinda the same case with Re:gloss, they auditioned to become holos and they used them as lab rats for a unit that's "ackchually not hololive", their metrics deep in the mud, their confidence shattered, why did they have to go through that bs? To appeal to who? The normies that believe vtubers are for fags? To nijisisters that only care about their rapists organs? The modern audience that lives in twitter and twitter only? And now I ask the same questions about this unit, these girls auditioned for hololive and they were selected, why the fuck do they have to go through the same "ackchually this unit is not hololive" audition bs, who does this appeal to? Normies? Nijisisters? The modern audience? I don't know the answer but I have the feeling it's close to the same answer for Re:gloss at the moment, no one. And I fucking hope it flops so it has to be salvaged again by the main branch.
>>111715141>>111715158explain your essay in 5 words or less
>>111715155it's funny how these people think it's some sort of vtuber hunger games
>>111715168regloss was doing worse than homos before holoJP salvaged their numbers, anything that's not hololive will fail
>literally sacrificing the boys to make a carbon copy AKB development program
>>111715127>They're working as a unit and not fighting against each other.Technically that IS the concern since women don't really cooperate and play nice with each other. Being able to seal yourself away and never talk to or about other girls is a big part of what keeps vtubing functional.
>>111715168Cover new projects badNew girls very affectedNew projects appeal to no one
>>111715168mekpark was compared to nijisanji's vta which moved from public to the background because it caused bickering from supporters of girls who didn't make it into the main branch
>>111715141>if it's a one way ticket to hololive then why not just put them into hololive in the first place?Something that became increasingly noticeable with ReGloss and FlowGlow is that the new HoloJPs can skewer their numbers by hiding in First Army's skirts, and while this speaks well of HoloJP's unity, it's not a good business model since it's not like 35P are going to buy Riona or Kanade's merch if push comes to shove.MekPark serves as a way to both train the talents in scheduling and time management (since I assume they already know how to sing and dance) and test how would new HoloJP debutants do on a First Army-free environment. Aqua's graduation put a fear of God on Cover's souls.
>>111715158>hire talents>they do well initially>don't have the mental strength to handle corpo vtubing>graduates and becomes the Potential Man of vtubingThe only way to prevent that is to place them in a live vtubing environment as training.
>>111715171>regloss was doing worse than homosLet’s not exaggerate that much
>>111712452she has been very fond of Enna and Reimu for some time.
>>111715183Cover should've killed those fags years ago
>>111715200if they're not even going to debut as a holo they might as well go to another company like niji or VSPO or phase, they could be more successful joining other corpo with proper support instead of going for auditions just to be strung along
P in 35p means producer so it's not wrong to say that if your oshi in mekpark fails it's the fault of their fanbase
>>111715188>since women don't really cooperate and play nice with each otherthat's not holostars
>>111715068If Holo fans who are well known for being loving and supportive towards the girls (even homo-collabing girls) still find the unit so uninteresting that they don't even bother watching stream or VOD, perhaps the unit should get cut instead of being allowed to leech off the girls - like what happened to the homo
>>111715215>proper support>like niji or VSPO or phaseGet the fuck out of here.
>>111715158This is their Idol Journey, after two years theyre hard core bonafide hololive member
>>111715215>they could be more successful joining other corpoThey won't. Holo is the golden ticket.
What's the minimum core fanbase needed to be considered okay for a holo, as in, how many people will buy membership and/or show up for every stream? 500? 1000? Can mekpark even hit these numbers without hololive support?
>>111715207doesn't explain why nijiensisters hate her
>>111715216>P in 35P means producerSometimes its "Parents"
>>111715158The way I see it, there's no way they're actually gonna fire girls for "underperforming", the PR damage is fucking obvious no matter what reasons they have firing a girl that the audience already bonded with is just asking for trouble, it's like home-growing an army of beggars turned holo-antis... It's so fucking retarded that I can't actually believe they will do it. So the alternative is that it's just for show and they'll let every girl pass at the end. A giant circus, reality TV basically.But even this still creates the stupidly toxic atmosphere of horse racing, it's like they are trying to make /#/faggotry mainstream.What possible benefit is there?There's a chance this format will be SO engaging that they'll get super boosted I guess, but it's much more likely to be a shitshow that AT BEST (all drama avoided) is still just completely pointless just like DEV_IS was (hurr we are very different from main hololive branch because... uhh... WE JUST ARE OKAY???)
>>111715198I feel like you just talked past me, having a system where people are given a training and a few months of trial period where the management examines them is generally a good idea, but it being public didn't work out for nijisanji, so it's questionable if it'll work out for hololive, because if it's a one way ticket then it's pointless, there's only a point if people fail the process, but then people who supported the failures will be mad about it, why create a system that'll create friction by default? graduations are seen as a thing that should be avoided but if it happens then you just have to deal with it, so why create a system that produces graduations by default?
>>111715207I dare you to guess why did Mori unfollow a bunch of NijiENs after the All Out War Discord leaks and then stopped collabing with all of them after the Selen Shock
>>111715241Wow meanwhile a homo collaber like shiori doesn't need to go through harsh condition like that
>>111715215>phasehow is phase even in this discussion, their numbers are gigatrash
>>111715216This setting of cut-throat competition is so outdated Heisei idol crap. Really shows the age of the people in upper management that came up with this, no one really goes with the P bullshit in 2026 except boomers.
>>111715241BUT WE ALREADY HAD THATWHY DO WE HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL SISYPHUS STYLE?
>>111715257this was after that so I don't know
>>111715265>forgetting all the shit that was thrown at multiple JP gens for being "too experienced" culminating in Riona and Vivi getting shit on for being full blown ex-AKBkek
>>111715265To prevent lazy new talent that will just mingle to top holomems to gain clout
>>111715261Obvious holoanti is obvious. I still don't get why attempt to be a concern troll when they'll go full mask off 4 posts later.
I've been reading so far and it's not even concern or criticism. It's just begging for them to fail lol. I'm expecting to see super seethe when mekPark debuts with good numbers. Like I'm actually seeing people hoping they fail lol. Especially homofans and nijifags
>>111715106Why are these retards still talking about id again
>>111715265Why are you so scared about "Working Hard"???
>or phase
im seeing the ingredients for it to be a big sh*tfest...You have to follow company guidelines and be aproved by management, which means Vtubers will have less room to truly be themselves because they will not want to be bonkedHaving to reach a certain ammount of views/subs will mean that they will stream games that will bring the most views...basicaly follow the meta instead of trying and be originalAnd the worst one for me: fan support innthe form of surveys....like wtf are they thinking here? You know this will be a tool used by haters to review bomb the talent...I dont know...i dont really like this concept on paper and i think it will cause a lot of drama when certain talents fans like will get terminated because they didnt reach that number of subs...
>>111715290Because according to beggars they are 40x deep in the red
>>111715289>Especially homofans and nijifagsSame difference.
>>111715197Nijivta is a free for all btw.
>>111715261you don't want to look at mekpark's numbers in a year then if you think they'll be any better. look at all those small indie agencies that close down every year. that's what mekpark is going to be, Cover is nothing without the holo brand.
>>111715025It wasn't quite Sana levels of bad but it was her big breakthrough
MATULI INCLINING
>>111715289They will definitely get good numbers in the first couple of months then recline after that
>Mikeneko asmrHome...
>>111715323doesn't change the fact that phase numbers are gigatrash and nobody will get any benefit joining that trash corpo
>>111715304>which means Vtubers will have less room to truly be themselves because they will not want to be bonkedVshojo died nearly 1 year ago and we still have retards saying this shit. Anyway, I really hope this word vomit was taken from reddit because it has it's stench all over it.
What if mekpark winner is a homocollaber?
>>111715361Homo already dead before 2 year.
>>111715361if their metric is merch sales, then that would be impossible
>>111715198That's just how every streamer group operates though. You have a few popular streamers and the rest of the group is just there to be side characters for them, and they'll get scraps of viewers and donations if they're being good side characters. Vtubers industrialised it but it happens with other streamers too, popular streamers want side characters for content, unpopular streamers want scraps of popularity. A negative version of this is popular streamers just using smaller streamers for content and then tossing them aside without letting them suckle on their popularity, or when smaller streamers just leech on bigger ones without providing any good content.
>>111715256I think the point is to "cure" adjustment disorder. What happened with Ao was that she couldn't adapt to the post-3D debut schedule, fell behind, went into a hiatus, fell way behind, and then felt like she had no choice but to graduate.If someone already joins Hololive with the understanding of how schedules and streams and studio times are going to work, they will last longer. The system is designed to minimize graduations, from fan support (making the talent attached to their fanbase and viceversa) to the obviously rigged gameshow model, the goal is to churn out Holos that will last at least five or so years.Though, it is strange that Ao, arguably a pretty mediocre streamer, produced such a mental scarring on them.
Holomembers should not mention or tweet or follow mekpark members cuz that would boost their popularity they need to maintain the balance and fair competition
>>111715383Because it has nothing to do with Ao or preventing one offs like you retards think and more about some execs wanting to try this regular idol format but as vtubing
>>111715323>MEKPARK WILL TOTALLY PERFORM WORSE THAN ANYTHING BECAUSE I'M A HOMOFAN AND I CAN'T ACCEPT A FUTURE WHERE HOLO TRAINEES ARE MORE POPULAR THAN MY PRECIOUS BOYSIf you want you can change it for niji or phase.>>111715361I severely doubt the post-homo downsize Cover will allow the faggots to be remotely close to this project and by the time the first mekpark girl debuts under hololive the malefailures will likely be gone.
https://files.catbox.moe/r57j4m.mp3https://files.catbox.moe/r57j4m.mp3https://files.catbox.moe/r57j4m.mp3
>>111715383again you talked past me, it's not that the process is bad, what's iffy is it being public, do I have to type out the same post 5 more times or what? whatever, if you keep talking past me then I guess I'll just stop caring and assume that you're some indog and you're incapable of holding a human conversation
Also>Kuzuha 17,991>Pekora 17,500Kek know your place blue leech pekora
Two years is the perfect amount of time to test the waters, both for management and for future talent, if you know what I mean
A retarded densetsu.exe manager is trying to criticize cover using fan demand as a metric got mekPark lol
>>111715383If they're scared they can't hire anyone because they need to adapt to the corporate culture perfectly and already be proven safe and popular with fans, their standards are just too high and they'll never function because they will never find perfect hires. The pool of people they can hire from is basically girls who already work for Hololive.
>>111715273Is lying the only thing you can do? And why are you so mindbroken that you cross posted a post made hours ago
There's a JP indie doing a watchalong of Raora's 3d, wth?
>>111715361That would be impossible since we unicorns decide who gets to live and die. If youre a homowhore like bae or shiori then their metrics will be shit and they'll get fired
>>111715474sure, why the hell notBig cat means big fans
>mekpark not hololive>won't be included in the boxHow long will Cover hold out, I wonder? They gave up fast with devis
>>111715474It's probably because of Towa's presence in it. I've seen her collab with Towa a few times on holodex
>>111715474nigger she does watchalongs for like most holo 3d lives. Your pasta whore isnt anything special
>>111715106>>111715290>>111715307indogs are lesser beings from SEA
why does this bitch mike keep bringing up hololivelet it go girl you got fired
imagine you were korean and conscripted to the army and kanade was your bunk-mate
kekPark status?
>>111715457>The pool of people they can hire from is basically girls who already work for Hololiventa but ironically some holos have outright said they don't think they'd pass today's auditions. It should be quite telling to Cover that their hiring process is going downhill when it would likely exclude a large number of their already popular holos if it were to happen today.
>>111715323Slit your throat, brown phasecuck
>>111715146There is a reason why you won't get replies for this here. (Half of the posters are sisters and phasecucks waiting for holo related yab to happen)
Mekpark this mekpark thatI still don't know when they gonna startSo when is the set date?
>>111715521Surely if we keep spaming branches one day for sure...
>>111715521homos are not hololive, they are holoPro
>>111715516Cover treats graduations like they're the end of the world and not an inevitability of the businessThey're getting new managers training new people throwing everything at the wall hoping to never get graduations again but...that's never going to fucking happen lol, even if the bestest mostest greatest environment ever, there would still be graduates.
>>111715526What response are you expecting to "screenshot of random person on Twitter #82", Hell even your response is just complaining about a lack of other responses
*MAY 7TH 2026 FINAL ETERNAL RETURN REVIEW TALLY since incident>303 Negative>63: Positive*MAY 8TH 2026 FINAL ETERNAL RETURN REVIEW TALLY>426: Negative>86: Positive*MAY 9TH 2026 FINAL ETERNAL RETURN REVIEW TALLY>305: Negative>30: PositivePositive reviews are losing steam, while negative reviews are going back closely to first day numbers.>RANKING PER POINTS (Gסld = 2, Silver = 1)Negative = 6pPositive = 3ptally cut off time: whenever I feel like it
Kiara raided Vivi
>>111715158Except they DIDN'T pass the audition for holoThey applied for the mekpark programThis is for people that don't have the resume for regular audition
>>111715127> flunk like Ao.you could tell that by her past.
>>111715552>Cover treats graduations like they're the end of the worldI am not sure what world you're living in but I wish that were true lmao
>>111715521
>>111715552it's a system that includes graduations by default though, if a girl doesn't make the cut then they're graduating for all intents and purposes, sounds pretty counterproductive
>>111715488as a Powdur fan i love listening to her talk about her love for black men
>>111715521wrong- cover--- mekpark--- hololive productions------ holostars-------- holostars jp-------- holostars en------ hololive-------- hololive jp-------- hololive id-------- hololive en-------- dev_is
>>111715188>since women don't really cooperateThings are the opposite under Cover and it's the men who don't cooperate or play nice with each other, otherwise going by your logic hololive shouldn't be standing right now and Cover's main product would be the homos.
American bros (it's from 2024)
>>111715587Fucking Yagoo broke down crying in one of the EN tea times last year, turns out Fauna had graduated to suck dick in peace oopsKiara was given a duolive to convince her to not graduate despite not really having the numbers to get one by herself
>>111715516Well, it's not really the quality level I mean. They don't want to train them, market them, or adapt their brand around them because they're not a sure thing. That's just fear of taking risks and losing face. But the only people who already know Hololive internally and are already popular and already part of the brand are... I mean you can't hire from outside with these requirements, fundamentally it makes no logical sense.
>>111715290>It will totally happen to girls too!They running on pure spite
>>111715588perfection
>>111715631Anycolor
>>111715078Nice pits
>>111715521HOLOLIVE = JP, naming it holo jp is redudant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__JjavyPbLgmichael cat is the goat gfe give me 1 reason why you aren't watching her asmrdon't say alien because she publicly dumped that guy
>>111715130>canadaanother phasecuck
>>111715663>Nijisanji>AmericaSo it's fake?
>>111715631What's the difference between live and distribution?
>>111715325Good lord HoloEN is in dire straits their previous all time worsts are just "normal" now and nobody seems to care
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like it
>>111715631>Produces more in japan for japan>twice as many talents in Japan>nonJP talent moved to Japan regularly>Japan makes them more money>"aMeRiCaN bRoS">>implying
>>111715636Nimi legitimately ruined EN grads, because now everyone thinks they're just quitting to take cock
>>111715141All these words when the actual problem VTA had was that a bunch of them were being paid by Chinese competition to spy on Niji
>>111715723Missed me?
>>111715636And yet when it came time for them to help Kanata they did jackshit for years, and when she brought up graduation they didn't even take her seriously still, all while lying about improvements that never came. When her doctor ordered her to take a break, management outright said that if she took it she'd lose the project she'd be working towards (implied to be the sololive), and she'd still be responsible for all the work when she came back, it would just get shuffled around to a later date. Multiple holos have pretty much called the tea parties pointless
will any holo play mixtape?
>>111715663There is no way the America portion is that big, that would mean the Japanese revenue is very small
1 pillow is 2 finanas alreadyniji mogged
>>111715766>playMixtape is not a game
>>111715766That totally not astroturfed "interactive" movie?
>>111715742>IMG_jealous seamonkey...
>>111715304>reddit spacingHow many of these fucking paragraphs are just copy pasted off reddit?
>>111715801For sure it is reddit but whoever wrote it isn't wrong. It's a shitty idea.
>>111715710>>111715769It's from 2024 (Selen yab full realized by July)
>>111715795Jealous of what exactly? Focus on Japan or Blaming Americans...?
>>111715265so we can filter the lazy bitches
>>111715827Ah right, that explains it.
>>111715831Anon but the original poster means that America is a significant part of the revenue(since they are the only country named after Japan) unlike niji which has both america and asia
when will gaijins learn?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_WtCAGBzMY
>>111715106>This shit againHere's Iofi (the least popular holomem) saying she's selling more limited merch than ever: https://streamable.com/c7nubu Anya said something similar but I didn't clip it.Fucking Kobo has 2 million subs and her music has significantly more views than Gura's. Imagine how much ad income that is?HoloID has been mogging phase's ccv for months.They're not going anywhere. Unlike homos they're making money.
>>111715860Are you sure? Because it lacked that context and wasn't in reply to anything. It only show a comparison to USA/JP and then commented "america bros". ...though who knows what 'other' is but anyway... I'll trust your interpretation. Though I don't see it. Guess my anus is too SEA.
>>111715414lolthey're gonna renew
>>111715756........you know too much but I don't blame Yagoo but HoloWitch project director and Kanata manager who also working with Luna as well.
reminder that Niji tried to do this
>>111716002I bet you said that Cover would never stop coddling the homos before the downsize.
>>111715521at least it's clear it's something completely different, unlike dev_is was. still have 0 desire to support it but it not carrying the hololive brand may actually be better
>/vt/ spends years blasting Anycolor for starting VTA, calls it unfair, vows to sympathize with those who did not pass>/vt/ spends days defending mekPark, salivates over the idea of peoples' hearts getting broken after failing because of the heckin NOOMBERS>some of the more radlicalized unicorns want mekPark's practices applied to current Hololive gens so they can "Thanos snap" the "runts" into nonexistence years after trasing Anycolor and VTAMake it make sense!
>>111715706she lied to you once, she will lie to you again
>>111716062Only shitposters would defend mekpark, it's clearly a garbage idea that should stick with kurosanji
>>111716062VTA was a 100+ member cutthroat competition rife with manager abuse and sex scandalsMeanwhile mekpark is marketed as two intern gens that can both join holo proper as long as they work hard and consistently
Some people say a man is made out of mudA poor man's made out of muscle and bloodMuscle and blood and skin and bonesA mind that's weak and a back that's strongYou load sixteen tons, what do you get?Another day older and deeper in debtSaint Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't goI owe my soul to the company storeI was born one morning when the sun didn't shineI picked up my shovel and I walked to the mineI loaded sixteen tons of number nine coalAnd the straw boss said, "Well, a-bless my soul"You load sixteen tons, what do you get?Another day older and deeper in debtSaint Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't goI owe my soul to the company storeI was born one morning, it was drizzling rainFighting and trouble are my middle nameI was raised in the canebrake by an old mama lionCan't no high-toned woman make me walk the lineYou load sixteen tons, what do you get?Another day older and deeper in debtSaint Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't goI owe my soul to the company storeIf you see me coming, better step asideA lot of men didn't, a lot of men diedOne fist of iron, the other of steelIf the right one don't get you, then the left one willYou load sixteen tons, what do you get?Another day older and deeper in debtSaint Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't goI owe my soul to the company store
>>111715106I actually think the reason ID hasn’t gotten a new gen is pretty simple, they haven’t had any losses no need to debut a new gen if everyone is still there
>>111716062I agree with your name but it literally only takes about ~5 filters to never see any of his posts. More on topic, mekPark is slightly less retarded than VTA, but still hot garbage.
>>111716062>vows to sympathize with those who did not passThat never happened especially after it became clear that a considerable chunk of the trainees were chink spies.>salivates over the idea of peoples' hearts getting broken after failing because of the heckin NOOMBERS/vt/ is not a monolith.>more radlicalized unicornsYou mean homoniggers/nijisisters larping?
>>111716038Idgi
>>111715751who?
>>111716087They also lost nearly their entire management team and had to replace almost every position which left the branch in limbo for an entire year
>>111715106>ID makes less money than the boys Are you delusional retard?
>>111716099they were claiming that the success of their EN branch was due to EN numbers but it was due to the chinese
>>111716080>only shitpostersSadly this is most of the Hololive fanbase today. I don't feel like I matter anymore if I think all talents should be treated by fans equally.>>111716085>as long as thyy work hard and consistentlyAnd what the fuck does that mean outside "get good CCV?"
>>111716116Risu hated the old management and almost graduated before they got replaced
>>111716116Yeah and that suck and do they give any reason to do that?
MATSURI 20k DORRRYYYAAAAAAAAA
>>111716085>sorry you are 7% behind the avg ccv goal and 13% behind on the SC income on a monthly average>you will be let go, goodbye, sucks for anyone who became a fan
In other newsNijisanji announced another sololive at k arena YokohamaSo what's special you ask?They are doing 3 sololives >9.11 - kuzuha>10.11 - this dude>11.11 - the 8 people unit liveSisters are saying riku should buy k-arena Yokohama since most of the Nijisanji events are held there also k- arena Yokohama is one of the biggest venue in all of Japan
>>111716086What did I do to you?
>>111716140>do your homework on time>answer your fucking discord messages>properly show drive to do your own projectsThese things were hard for some former holos
>>111716171>be in /#/>only seethe about the mere concept of having a nebulous goal of actually HAVING PEOPLE WATCH YOUHomo sister or holo anti kicked off the towa, call it
>>111715521how long before holos will be forced to save this stupid side project
>>111715106The beggars can't handle the truth of their shitty branch being overshadowed by a bunch of girls in the third world and soon to be overshadowed by trainees
>>111716232The homos are dead, Jim.
>>111716227lol
>>111716227Why are you trying to summon the janny?
>>111716221Being in /#/ doesn't mean I have to hate every girl that doesn't make as much as others, you retard
Speaking of lazy fish what's the next goal? 110-ish days?
Question: do people that say that holoID make no money believe that phase and 90% of liggers make no money?HoloID mog all of phase and most /lig/gers in 2026.
>>111716240dont forget overshadowed by pngtuber newsanchors
>>111716281That too
>>111716278The people who say ID makes no money are the same ones who think the homos are popular and successful. It's just pure delusion.
>>111716179LOLhttps://x.com/nijisanji_app/status/2053091365169586540
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Mekpark will cause so much drama it's unrealI can't fucking wait
>>111715130this guy schizophrenic or am i uninformed? i haven't heard anything about this
>>111716333O
>>111716362M
>>111716362K
>>111716362W
>>111716325Okay so it's just going to be one guy and his cronies singing for three days straightlol
>>111716368A
>>111716266>600 viewerswho? voice is kinda eh
>>111716411noone, this is some artist who decided to become a vtuber
>>111716408T
>>111716424O
>>111716325they really want to make sure nijisisters see this first kek
>>111715130yeah, that's easy since you just say, "Thank you for the superchat".
>>111716370Y
>>111716273100
Why is my wife like this?
>>111716380
Another day Another Miko gold
>>111716515did she really mention it? timestamp pls
>>111716473O
>>111715158>I still don't like the idea and believe it's extremely unfair towards the new girls, they already passed the audition, why make them go through a potentially 2 year audition again?Cover wants more money and mekPark is their version of Nijisanji acceleration. The 2 year time limit means it will be an extremely stressful work environment since trainees will be constantly judged on metrics. Talents were competing with each other in Hololive but they had a stable job and they didn't have to worry about getting fired if they didn't get enough viewers or sell enough acrylic stands. Mori literally made a song about this type of idol competition were they are "racing lovely animals until they crack". >>111715262>This setting of cut-throat competition is so outdated Heisei idol crap.mekPark goes beyond typical parasocial attachment and is high level manipulation based on exploiting the desperation of a struggling idol that might lose her job so management can boost merch sales (for an 800 employee corporation that is suffering massive bloat). Even if the 2 year time limit is fake that would still make it a scummy lie.
>>111716594>Cover wants more money and mekPark is their version of Nijisanji acceleration.I'm bewildered at Outfitschizo's talent to say absolute bullshit
>>111716556https://x.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/2052889281455415619
*2026 MAY 9TH FINAL UNIQMEMBERSNUM EN TALLY*>856: Gigi (Hololive English)>642: Nimi (Indie)>542: Nerissa (Hololive English)
>>111716622Ame should kiss that Gigi
>>111716594That’s a whole lot of words just to admit that you’re retarded
>>111716607>having 6 trainees is exactly the same as debuting nearly 20 schmucks in 12 months, corpodrone
Chibidoki doing literal NTRhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/ckjvo5Xk1rI
>>111716594>talents were competing with each otherNot really, noEven mekparkers aren't competing against anything but their own time limit
>>111716622I’m glad Nimi still gets blown the fuck out even when the metric being looked at is cherry picked just for her as her strongest one
>>111715304>You have to follow company guidelines and be aproved by management, which means Vtubers will have less room to truly be themselves because they will not want to be bonkedLOL, LMAO, talent freedom TM?>Having to reach a certain ammount of views/subs will mean that they will stream games that will bring the most views...basicaly follow the meta instead of trying and be originalSo every vtuber and streamer under the sun.... correct>And the worst one for me: fan support in the form of surveys....like wtf are they thinking here? You know this will be a tool used by haters to review bomb the talent...Now here you're having a good point for once, yes I can see the review bombing just to fuck with people, I mean I can see beggars actually propping up a homobeggar that made it to mekpark just to have an accesory to the boys again, that's pretty concerning, unless they get MERCH sales and management can see those numbers that cannot be altered by random twittars.>I dont know...i dont really like this concept on paper and i think it will cause a lot of drama when certain talents fans like will get terminated because they didnt reach that number of subs...Oh anon, this is gonna be much worse, remember what Hololive is good for? propping the girls up, a community of talents who, by winning, make the whole ecosystem win, this pretty much rewards harmony and getting along... mekpark? THE WHOLE FUCKING OPPOSITE, this is a chopping block and I can see alliances, cliques, bullying, drama, doxxing, some mekpark members revealing shit to 5ch about other contestants to get them expelled, mekpark members taking pics of other mekpark members IRL with SOs or a male to get them less votes... this is a bloodbath, a HUGE fucking bloodbath and to be honest if the winners of mekpark got there thanks to others having the dramas i listed above then those too don't deserve to be in Hololive, why? because there's an 80% chance that those bitches fabricated them to get where they are and are just gonna do the same with the stablished talents, this vote for your favorite thing is gonna replace the vibecheck and we're sure to get some new elira's in HololiveNow, why are they doing this? thanks to fauna, Chloe, Ao and others who went in and got out just to funnel the Holofanbase to their RMs, they are tired of betting on indies to later have them trying to do a selenshock to them to prop up their careers and burning everything behind them.
https://x.com/VieusViridian/status/2053075919196057914
>>111716608>play innocentkinda hot ngl
>>111716669Posting cute IRyS pixel art won't change the fact that you're a dramabeggar.
>>111716660Has she admitted that her and those guys she collabs with 6 times a week are dating yet
So far it's only Unit B of mekPark that has interacted with their audiences
don't look at the catalog
>>111716660>literal NTR>actually just a game
>>111715304>And the worst one for me: fan support innthe form of surveys....like wtf are they thinking here?they need to train the first AI-vtuber gen with something
>>111716654>6 trainees - 24 months is same as 20 new debuts within 12 monthsYour logic is impeccable
>>111716801>got a haircut that makes me look like a little emo boyMori is a shota with tits
>>111715926Hmmm Iofi butt
>>111716845We all know that anything more than 0 new hololive debuts in a decade means Cover is accelerating. If they debut a single new girl in 50 years they're just as bad as Anycolor. Half a girl in a century means they're turning hololive into nijisanji.
>>111716859Hot...
thoughts?
>>111716920>>111716907
>>111716920I shit you not I laughed a solid minute when someone posted this on the thread
>>111716920Trooned out. No wonder none of the homos are close to their artist mama if this is shit they have to draw
>>111716920Yeah I'd fuck him until he cums hands free from anal
>Kronii completely silent, next news about her will be her termination>Mori giving Cover the cold shoulder>Haachama can't even use her channel>Niko going out the same way as Ao
>>111716945>>111716972he's a fat spic with a neckbeard
>>111716199>do all of this>still anti the girls anyways>when they leave brag about le invisible unicorn spiritually "killing" those outside the corporationToo predictable
>>111716984>Haachama can't even use her channelGod this shit was so funny back in October>She will be terminated on Mondaynext day>She will be terminated on Tuesdaynext day>She will be terminated on Wednesday
>>111716920thats one ugly woman
>>111716669>Now, why are they doing this? thanks to fauna, Chloe, Ao and others who went in and got out just to funnel the Holofanbase to their RMs, they are tired of betting on indies to later have them trying to do a selenshock to them to prop up their careers and burning everything behind them.anons keep bringing this up and it's stupid because if being Aloe for two weeks and one stream gets you a boost, so would being in Mekpark
>>111715588Those mekparkers better not so much as look in my oshi's direction until they make it through the gauntlet. If there's an all hands meeting with a banquet those new trainees are eating on a tatami mat.
>>111717007>still anti the girls anywaysDo you think people shat on Shiori after the brick because she didn't answer her messages?
>>111715926Dude got stuck in 2023, lmao. It's a FACT that ID was making less money than they were worth for quite a while. Cover even made an announcement of it, saying they would change their approach and focus more on the ID market since the traditional strategy wasn't working; they changed it, and surprisingly, it worked like a charm. NOW ID is doing fine, but it wasn't always the case.
>>111717002Idgaf, I only care about vtuber models
>>111716859>with titsI have bad news...
VTA: ]:(VTA, Hololive: ]:O
>>111717040Nigga, if anything HoloID was doing better back in 2023 considering Kobo was still a high 4view-low 5view
>we suddenly don't like femboys with toned abs>b-but muh homoyeah you idiot nobody likes them but that model is hot
>>111715257It was the dudes in the discord leak, and she refollowed them after like 8 hours.
Holy dead thread
>>111717113>suddenly>femboys
*MAY 9TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*>8,372: Gigi (Hololive English)>6,411: Nerissa (Hololive English)>5,259: Baelz (Hololive English)The race for Silver was amazing. Second Gold in a row for Gigi Murin with her playthrough of Senran Kagura Peach Beach Splash, Silver for Nerissa Ravencroft's playthrough of Luigi's Mansion, Bronze for Hakos Baelz's playthrough of BakeryDiary.>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)Bijou = 14pShiori, Gigi = 8pRaora = 7pKronii = 5pNerissa = 4pKiara, Nimi, Cecilia = 2pIna'nis, Baelz = 1p
>>111717144Nimi also got in with 5001 CCV retard
Botjou is the epitome of quantity over quality slop streamer
>>111717130Yeah for the "most influential thread" being dead as a doornail really speaks volumes as to how truly influential this place really is.
>>111716179>k-arena Yokohama is one of the biggest venues in all of Japanit has a capacity of 20,000. That's like half of Saitama Super Arena that Suisei sold out.
>>111717130It's fucking Saturday why would you waste your time in this schizo den broGo enjoy life
>>111717144MAY 2026 EN GOLD5/1 - Bijou - Bayonetta 2: 6,5895/2 - Raora - Unarchived Karaoke: 9,6445/3 - Shiori - Birthday Stream: 14,2995/4 - Bijou - Portal 2: 9,1895/5 - Bijou - Powerwash Simulator 2: 8,2475/6 - Kronii - Resident Evil Requiem: 9,4625/7 - Shiori - Insect Ranking: 10,0595/8 - Gigi - Rollercoaster Tycoon 2: 6,6665/9 - Gigi - Senran Kagura Peach Beach Splash: 8,372PER COMPANY9x: Hololive EnglishHOLOLIVE ENGLISH HAS WON 62 GOLDS IN A ROW.PER STREAMER3x: Bijou2x: Gigi, Shiori1x: [Kronii, Raora]THE 60TH CONSECUTIVE GOLD BELONGS TO SHIORI NOVELLA.
>>111717151Cuckling...
soragone
>>111717113The whole femboy thing is incredibly forced and just reeks of severe internet brainrot. I am going to assume anyone who talks like this is just retarded.
>>111717203MAY 2026 EN SILVER5/1 - Cecilia - Zatsu: 6,2015/2 - Raora - Celeste: 9,1105/3 - Kronii - No Man's Sky: 10,2185/4 - Kiara - Tomodachi Life: 6,8475/5 - Shiori - Powerwash Simulator 2: 6,1175/6 - Raora - Yapyap: 7,9065/7 - Bijou - Gunpla Building: 9,7615/8 - Bijou - Resident Evil 6: 6,0885/9 - Nerissa - Luigi's Mansion: 6,411PER COMPANY9x: Hololive EnglishPER STREAMER2x: Raora, Bijou1x: Cecilia, Kronii, Kiara, [Shiori, Nerissa]
She was almost in JusticeGrimmi Nightmarehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr7ISDxKCCU
>>111716556it's not niji main channel gold?
>>111717257>this is how low the standard for HoloEN has gottengrim
>>111717247MAY 2026 EN BRONZE5/1 - Nerissa - Tomodachi Life: 5,8775/2 - Bijou - Portal: 8,6095/3 - Gigi - Creature Crafter: 6,4585/4 - Nimi - Dark Souls 2: 6,8425/5 - Nerissa - Powerwash Simulator 2: 5,5675/6 - Gigi - 13 Sentinels Aegis Rim: 7,5055/7 - Ina'nis - Tomodachi Life: 9,5755/8 - Nimi - Dark Souls: 5,9365/9 - Baelz - BakeryDiary: 5,259PER COMPANY7x: Hololive English2x: IndiePER STREAMER2x: Gigi, Nerissa, Nimi1x: Bijou, Ina'nis, Baelz
>>111717246It was. Last decade the Astolfo meme was an attempt to pinkpill so many impressionable anons and it somehow worked into grooming ops and more troons appearing out of the woodwork. Nearly a decade later people sound even more unintelligible thanks to it.
>>111717269Are there any good euro liggers?
>>111717261idk man I'm only curious about azki
>>111717082Quite the opposite, they had only a few big earners, but Cover stated that the traditional model (SC's and merch) was abysmal, and that's why they changed to cater more to the local market, meaning more collabs with local e-celebs, more sponsors with local brands, etc. And it actually worked, now every ID chuuba can at the very least carry their weight.
>>111717308Dyarikku sounds nice
>>111717171We were the catalyst of NijiENs death, we were the forseeiers of the homo cancer that was spreading. We fought countless invisible battles, bled invisible blood, lost invisible lives.But that is fine, because we won, we fought for a better future and the better future is on the horizon. We were the darkness that lurked to consume the filth, now that the filth is gone let us turn into nothing and let the light shine.
>>111717257she was lying, she hated hololive after vesper got fired
>>111717261meant for >>111716549
>>111715078>chose the Shiori thread over the Kiara threadCringe
>>111716154indonesian men having power over women, they were scum
>>111717329>the better future is simply attacking ex-holos for existing, still carrying on with holo vs holo when its convenient, and defending Hololive's version of VTA after spending years trashing Nijisanji when they did it because it's /#/'s dream come true as it somehow invites more tribalismToo predictable.
>>111716158my horn is growing but not on forehead
>>111716920ya I can see why they fail to bring in a profit
it looks like Iroha raided Koyori but by 2 hours after the raid all the Kazama-tai had left. One of the worst instances of raid retention I've seen
>>111717261No, it was a premiereKinda stupid to do a Sololive free portion as a premiere, it did like shit, but whatever I'm not a Nijinigger.
>>111717401>It's the fucking JP Numbers retard againOh my God dude let it go no one cares about NijiJP and VSPO jesus christ you don't need to come here to bitch about this thread every single time you get reminded that other JP corpos are fucking failures
>>111717429oh it was a premiere? Migo gold then. I was wondering how vstats missed it
>>111717246>forced>brainrotretard
>>111717082ccv does not mean anything if there is no sponsorships or merch moving, indogs still proufly proclaim how they do not spend money or how they pirate events and merch
>>111717417this is basically how most JP raids go if they're streaming slop
>>111717401This thread is of no consequence, the schizos were always here, they will always be here. The good anons who fought the fight fell one by one over the years, sacrificing their invisible lives for the cause.>W-WHY DID YOU SHIT ON NIJISANJIAAAAAAA FUCKING HOLOFAGYou lost, your homos are dead, "talent freedom" is dead, shitsanji is dead. Only holos remain as the sole rulers of Vtubings heaven and earth.
>>111717417I was one of the people who immediately left...
>>111717329>We were the catalyst of NijiENs death>We were the catalyst>WeKekaroo
>>111716158TWENTY THOUSAND UNICORNS!!!
>>111717472You are just a loser gooning over a bunch of young males with development issues and grooming problems. Shit is stupider then jupiter.
mekpark will flop and trainee hololivers will leak dirt on cover
>>111717515angry nijisis
>>111717144Kek Nimi MOGGED
>>111717160Mindbroken faggot lmao
>>111717329>>We were the catalyst of NijiENs deathuh no that was Selen
>>111717560cope more, nigger, Kurosanji was destined to fall by its own shit regardless of your brown melties.
>>111717515Yes >weWe had predicted the day would come for so, so long. Niji organs came here and got mindbroken, when the Selengate happened and all the other year old shit came out - what was the origin of all those information and rrats? Yes it was numbers, this thread had been documenting the underlying rot for years, which erupted all at once and dealt the killing blow.Everything piece of information that the catalogue was mind blown about was discussed years prior here, we were the nexus, we were the only people actually paying attention. Same shit with the homos.
>>111717529People can jerk off to whatever they want, femboys are just one of the things I choose to masturbat to. Policying porn is stupider than Jupiter
>>111717601Actually it was the Black Stream on Elira's channel that sealed NijiEN's fate. There was NO recovering from that blunder.
>>111717633>we brought down Niji>we had predicted the day would come...Say no more, thanks to prove my point.
>>111717460Not him, but I imagine them actually enjoying VTubers unlike here.>>111717490So ideas concocted by Anycolor are only good when Cover does them?
>>111717633>we didn't beat Niji, we sat in the cuck corner while Doki beat Niji and then niji beat itself
>>111717633>look at me i'm sosuke aizen but the vtuber fan version of himYou need to be 18 years or older to post on 4chan.
>>111717652they never deleted the vod btw its still there A monument to all their sins.
>>111717634Nobody is telling you to not wank to them weirdo, what I am saying is that the whole internets "interst" in them is forced, it's more of a meme then attraction but it's not really a meme bit just incredible brainrot.
>>111717672>Nijisanji invented trainees Do nijinigs really?
>>111717695annoying vtweeter
>>111717692You wouldn't take all those views from Elira would you?
>>111716278i think there is something fishy, because there is still no ID nendo
>>111716920
>>111717687More like we were the weaponsmith that provided wepons to the mass after Doki and Niji exchanged blows.
>>111717692it is legal evidence they can bot take it down
>>111715304>You have to follow company guidelines and be aproved by managementThe fact that he thought this was a good argument is hilarious
>>111717775Fuck nedroids went to a con today and GoodSmile didn't bring a single fucking holo nendo made me so fucking mad what's even the point of producing them if you don't bring it to sell fucking retards.
>>111717775it is likely that manufacturer is one calling shots in that due to contract holo has with them
>>111717113I like femboys but the design is still bad
So is there a reason for why i should look forward to mekPark (can't think of any still), or is it another "retard idea by cover but i still like the girls so i will give it a chance"
Reine has finally finished the ace attorney series, pray for her CCV incline.
>>111717634No one is preventing you from jacking off to men, everyone is just rightfully calling you a faggot for doing so
>>111717900time for layton
>>111717897Firstly it's a new concept for anything Cover related, and most likely the second reason.
>>111717897Watch girls improve over a period of time and maybe end up liking someone to the point that you would support their future career
>>111717695Not wrongEN vtuber Twitter is constantly in favor of handouts and gibsmedats commie shit like how they HAVE to uplift indies and they HAVE to subsidize the homos and male vtubers otherwise they're EVIL CAPITALISTS So the thought of a meritocratic accelerated internship program sends them into toxic shock
>>111717897I'll give them a watch, if the weird rules somehow works better then, i'd support it. If not, then i'll continue to watch my oshi as usual.
So how is this going to work? If they don't pass in the 2 year deadline does Cover just give them the IP and let them do whatever? If they pass do they become holos or will cover assign them into a seperate thing as a FTT? Do they keep the same IP if they debut or do they get new once?:What if they pass but don't want to be continue? What if they fail but Cover still let's them pass?
>>111717897Cover is just scared to do a normal jp gen anymore. Probably to avoid too many comparisons from investors
>>111717897More girls, but without former experienceIf people like them they will stayReal rookie idol experience as opposed to cover picking up multiple ex-AKB48
>>111717738>>Nijisanji invented trainees>>and rape
>>111717695Some people never really found something that could give them the same high since the black screen stream and are always searching for their next fix
>>111718019They don't want to do new gens because they are fucking scared of thinning their resources and losing another talent. Debuting new gens now will never give them the chance to fix shit.
>>111718066>mel
>>111717695sorry but i don't take the opinions of a phasecuck seriously.
>>111718017>If they don't pass in the 2 year deadline does Cover just give them the IP and let them do whatever?If they don't pass in 2 years the IP will be used to sell the leftover stands until, like Anycolor, Cover takes the inventory markdown and landfills them. Cover must minimize any possible losses and maximize return.>What if they fail but Cover still let's them pass?This is the likely scenario as long as there's not a giga menhera who does an Ao, a Sana, a Chloe. There numbers will be gen 5 tier and they'll get forgotten about but making passable revenue to ignore like Flare or Aki.
>>111718019they won't ever do a normal jp gen because they want to have the title that all of hololive main branch has 1million subs
>>111717672This shit isn't even close to comparable, Nijisanjis VTA is literally just mass producting organs. Cover has a 2 year deadline on 2 groups of three, a 100 livers will live and die in this timeline.
>>111718099me lgetting vs niji raping niji
>>111717203>only 2 10k+ goldsWe're back to 2023.
>>111718109>who does an Ao, a Sana, a ChloeI'm just going to start assuming everyone lumping in Sakamata to this is a nijifag or homobeggar, because it's that or you're functionally retarded.
>>111718102
>>111718088Makes sense. Hopefully the mekpark girls can handle the cortisol
>>111718038this isn't even related to vtubers anymore you just want to advertise your favorite e-celeb cock
>>111718167Nimi was a fucking burden, Gigi was on track to 10k but she just split the numbers in two with her collab.That's the problem with Nimi nowadays, she can't compete with HoloEN anymore, she doesn't get good numbers, but she is also deadweight for the Holobox.
>>111718088then this is debuting new gens with less resources, so its a bad direction
I hope the mekpark girls have the strictest possible collab ban ever. A collab ban that would make the Omega council sequester look tame in comparison.And any fault for breaking on it should be fully on the mekker, not the senpai who's a friendly retard. No replying to DMs, no messing around in Steam chat, Minecraft chats, game lobbies, or visiting houses. Twitter replies only if @ed first. They should be fully on their own instead of leeching first army or daisenpais.
>>111718192>cocktalking about cockkek!!!
>>111718174Is the merch on geekjack too?
>>111718062vivi/riona are THE prime saviorfag experience right now, two girls with not much streaming experience and with lots of insecurities that are growing with their fanbases
>>111717897It's just the next:New Hololive members, but not Hololive instead something new and different, but actually just new Hololive members really but this time they're also not Devis either.They might eventually get over this mindset that any new JP gen has be something new and different, but probably not
idgaf about kekpark because I don't speak jp
>>111718174oh damn, Fuwamoco in the deep red
>>111718169Whatever reasons Chloe had, she still broke holoX. I'm tired of gens having holes in them a year in.
>>111718174This is a very curious sale.Nerissa is outdoing practically everyone, FWMC, IRyS and Ina are struggling to sell despite breezing through other types of merch, and CCGG are doing the best (despite Ceci being midcard in merch sales on other times)It works different from other HoloEN merch sales
So Mori feminization is a fucking lie>>111715561
>>111718290what happened to the saudi princess that used to aka supa like every homo stream?
I LOVE COVER MORE!!!
>>111718317>a year inShe was in hololive for over 3 years.
>>111718217These girls arnt holos, they aren't going to access from the same pool. What holos need is>Studio time >Getting their projects approved >Mangers and staff to execute their products >Agility and competency in all of this These girls don't need all of that, they aren't talents, they aren't going to take their share from the holo pie, Cover will just make a smaller pie for them.
>>111718215>it's nimis fault she couldn't get 10kkek what kind of cope is this do only streams with zero overlap count?
>>111717935>Watch girls improve over a period of timethis is Cover artificially making lesser holos (the girls are already that journey), unless they want to give an opportunity to an actual schizo timebomb girl and are trying to avoid getting burned by them
>>111718356Imagine running a race and then a dead cow falls on the field
>>111718361Yes, they are trainees
>>111717897*Special Ed voice* More tribalism more Holo vs. Holo yay More tribalism more Holo vs. Holo yayy More tribalism more Holo vs. Holo yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>111718336Even the massive faggots in charge of the homos seems to have hit a point where the homo retardation was too much for them
>>111718386What changed?
>>111718339Serious question, but did you expect him to know that?
>>111717914NOOOOOOO
>>111718361They're giving the opportunity to people that can't meet the audition requirement for content creation experience
>>111718346then they could have made "Only streaming branch" a "Part-time branch" a "Really really nor Holos branch", not a "probation branch"
>the poeple complaining about mekpark>click the use name look at the post and replies HOHOSTARS and NIJISANJI PHASE CONNECT SOM,E DONT EVEN WATCH VTUBERSKEK!
>>111718415No, I would hardly expect anyone lumping Sakamata in to that to know much of anything.
>>111718336>Holo: Oh yeah one of my outfits proposals got shot down huh>Holo fan: Well that's unfortunate>Homo: One of my outfit proposals got shot down>Homo fan: COVERMENT, BLACK COMPANY, JUST LIKE NIJISANJI
>>111718447Save for Helmir, everyone is quite literally going>Oh, so you have money for this but not DUBAIS?Which leads me to believe we'll get the same shitposts and arguments once EN5 is announced.
>>111717914I don't mind watching layton streams, especially if the girls are dumb
>>111718482retard thinks we're ever getting EN5
https://files.catbox.moe/ci6kn1.mp3>FRIENDLY REMINDER!!we love Mori herewe love Kiara herewe love Dooby herewe love Ina herewe love Saba herewe love Namie herewe love Nimi herewe love IRyS herewe love Shachi herewe love Bae herewe love Kronii herewe love Fuwawa herewe love Mococo herewe love Nerissa herewe love Biboo herewe love Shiori herewe love ERB herewe love Cecilia herewe love Raora herewe love Gigi herewe love Randon OUR HUSBAND herewe hate Kiaraschizo/Egguardo/Baeschizo herewe hate Selenfag/Ennacuck/Donie Darko herewe hate homobegging nijishitters herewe hate all schizos here>Umm, achuwee, we hate-We hate YOU, you falseflagging cocksucking son of a dead drunken fat whore>WeYes we, You can kill yourself and go to hellWe all would be happy if you killed yourself and died right now, nobody would fucking miss you, especially not your whore mother who takes dicks inside and out 24/7We won't fucking miss you when you are gone, we will celebrateif I could hire a hitman on you right now, I wouldI wish you nothing but the worst and most painful death possible and eagerly look forward to the day you die alone and miserableAmen
>>111718482
who is we
Today's menu Hologodshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtSc03nTLBshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oElWN45HHPwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIwx6lGRLRshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w37yVSXhV_chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6U7oUUzqychttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2l1ErCEpIs
>>111717351You sinned by questioning Miko's gold>>111717429
>>111718556stop spamming this cat
>>111718556spam more of the cat
>>111718551People who live vicariously through this thread
Who is this supposed to be? Is it Zeta? Cause everyone else is in their original outfit and that's definitely not Zeta's original outfit
>>111718556jesus noel always has the best thumbnails
kek!
Got this in my recommended after Reine stream>mentions Mori and Jump King/Warhammer Arc>I have 900 viewers?? I didn't have the dashboard open, OMGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8nWSlC6VFkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8nWSlC6VFk
>>111718593the italian lady she collabed with before
>>111718482>EN5ID and EN is being reduced to madogiwazoku and will be downsized like stars in 2 years. Cover will retract to only focusing on the JP market and eventually cut their Hololive Productions project loose too, by like 2030. They are a technology company with a weird Girlfriend as a Service liability hanging off of them.
>>111718593Italian indie friend
>>111718593Roara's sex friend.https://x.com/dyarikku
>>111718329Mori 53.0 will be feminized, you'll see!
>>111718329>expecting better of a woke white thot
>>111718330She's married, most likely saving her money for her future child.
>>111718609I have to admit it's pretty cute seeing "people" like you refuse to admit that Homos were subhuman parasites and nothing but subhuman parasites
>>111718594breast* thumbnails
>>111718609for a technology company their tech is pretty outdated
>>111718605SALUDOS
>>111718609befroe this ging to happened no more homostars phase connect and nijiEN
>>111718609>by 2030 Cover will sell literally nothing>literally literally nothing>no girls no homos no pets, nothingfunniest thing is, not the most retarded thing i've read this week
>>111718656>for a technology company their tech is pretty outdatedThat's because they've been LARPing as Idolmaster when they should have been making Holoearth into Japan's Genshin instead.
Raora global gold unless unless someone in jp streams a buff game
>>111718605Windows XP did not have curved edges so that looks really dumb to anyone who actually used Windows XP
>>111718605We know nonbirigirl09
>>111718482>Tying group success to viewership/fan engagement/revenue>blaming cover for the homos failing at thosethen what kind of metrics do you want for Holostars if engagement and revenue are not part of it? thinking really hard right now
>>111718733Kek it's too accurate
>>111718686You're really overestimating Raora's pull. Plus there's like nobody in holoEN that will spirit bomb her unless Gigi sings for 4 hours or CC/Shiori stream for 5 hours.
>>111718605She sounds like a hag
>>111718735tw likes of course, they're the world champions at it
>>111718686I am afraid this might be a big fat flop
>>111718323>Nerissa is outdoing practically everyone?You mean GG
>>111718174FWMC's merch fall off was the most predictable thing imaginable They may have lost the largest percentage of their initial fanbase of anyone in Holo history
>>111718735Some metrics can't be expressed in numeric data. You can't measure mental health with a number.
>>111718804I don't watch gg I cringe everytime I see gg and cc forced scripted pairing
>>111718818Is he the king of holostars
>>111718770thats part of fan engagement that he protested, they are good at doing that for virtesignaling posts like when calling out evil unicorns and bullshit poll instead of the thing that actually matters, this is more like he wants something else
Iofi will save Holostars
>>111718816Mococo's 2026 merch holds the record for fastest sold out in HoloEN's history
>>111718823That doesn't change the fact that Nerissa isn't outdoing everyone. She's not even the best seller in Advent based on that table
>>111718735Being generous, they want talents who haven’t found their niche to be kept on life support until they do. I think we’re all in favor of that.
>>111718174did Ruffians just vanish?
>>111718482>Which leads me to believe we'll get the same shitposts and arguments once EN5 is announced.We basically had the same shitposts and arguments happen before Advent.Got shut down hard with the debut and all the hype
>>111718853Do you think iofi lurks here Hi iofi
>>111718855Yes because they lowered their stock compared to previous years
>>111718870This is “lowest priority” merch
>>111718174Step aside merch-movers FWMC and Ina. We have a new sheriff in town awww yea
>>111718848>he
>>111718870I mean realistically most of them were bots to begin with lolThat first year like 2/3rds of their streams were botted and when we saw their real numbers they were rarely above 5-6k
>>111718818why does every depression test then use point system?
>>111718880>>111718911FWMC won first place in Golds last month, first time since October 2023APR 2026 EN GOLD4/1 - Calliope - Bonelliope Debut: 10,4254/2 - FUWAMOCO - Donkey Kong Country 2: 19,2894/3 - Calliope - Birthday Outfit Reveal: 12,5904/4 - Calliope - 3D Live: 45,3804/5 - Cecilia - Resident Evil Requiem: 13,1074/6 - Hololive English - Serendipity Announcements: 10,4154/7 - Gigi - HoloEN Parenting: 13,0734/8 - FUWAMOCO - Chrono Trigger: 9,8084/9 - Bijou - Slay the Spire 2: 8,6594/10 - Bijou - Hytale: 9,5734/11 - Bijou - Unarchived Karaoke: 8,9394/12 - FUWAMOCO - The Mortuary Assistant: 12,6834/13 - FUWAMOCO - Pokemon Pokopia: 10,1354/14 - Kronii - Hytale: 7,6524/15 - Bijou - Rock In The Game: 14,0434/16 - Kronii - Arknights Endfield: 10,3574/17 - Elizabeth - Archived Karaoke plus announcement: 11,0394/18 - IRyS - Pragmata: 7,7914/19 - Kiara - Hytale: 11,3794/20 - Gigi - Girls Night: 12,3794/21 - Calliope - Monster Hunter Outfit Reveal: 10,3154/22 - FUWAMOCO - Onigiri Shop Simulator: 13,2084/23 - Bijou - Tomodachi Life: 12,6734/24 - FUWAMOCO - Fuwawa's Return: 19,5764/25 - Elizabeth - 3D Live: 51,7154/26 - Cecilia - Resident Evil Requiem: 9,7644/27 - IRyS - Monster Hunter Outfit Reveal: 11,8174/28 - Calliope - Dark Souls Remastered: 6,0154/29 - Hololive English - HoloDreams Information: 8,8864/30 - Bijou - Tomodachi Life: 8,993PER COMPANY30x: Hololive EnglishPERFECT SWEEP.PER STREAMER6x: [FUWAMOCO, Bijou] - Diamond Dogs
>>111718864we all do until its the whole branch with 20-30 people instead of just 1-2 girls in each gen
>>111718914Because modern depression isn't real. It's just addiction with a side of sadness.
>>111718878not likely as she would have heroed herself already
>>111718926Or until that branch cultivates an audience of holoantis who desperately want to wage culture war on existing fans
>>111718605male?
Gold? Gold.
>>111718925The biggest EN stream this year was FWMC's birthdayThe biggest EN stream of 2025 was FWMC's birthday, excluding graduationsThe biggest EN stream of 2024 was the 3D debut...of FWMC.
>>111718894Sounds like cope. The other fanbases are doing as expected with the exception of ina and fwmc. Why is that now?
>>111718818In case you anons aren't updated https://youtu.be/ebb2ZVjSyq8?si=gwiitlUp8sdc_Xxb
>>111718970lets use alternative metrics, biggest holo EN consert was Kronii if we use mc's boobs as measure
>>111718972Nerissa is massively overperforming unless you believe she got all of her gachis back again thanks to Jailbird mindcontrols or somethingShiori outselling Kronii and IRyS should tell you not to take this seriously
>>111718628>>111718638Are you Morischizo seriously seething over a haircut gone wrong? You guys really are reaching new pathetic heights
>>111718992Mariya got her IP back?
>>111718970they get a lot of JP viewers for their big events, we know that
>>111718853wtf is this??????????????????!
>>111719025Great, and they buy merch too that's why FWMC are able to sell out birthday merch in 90 seconds
>>111719031sticthing trough flesh, did sane as kid when i was bored, but mainly on figers
cosplayer grifters are the worst
>>111718911but why the botting stopped after they moved to japan?
>>111718970How about less serious metricsFWMC had the biggest hours watched in HoloEN and top 10 in the company last month, their best position ever
>>111719011"gone wrong" from a girl who's always wanted to be a "short haired and flat chested tomboy"
>>111719094>cosplayer grifters>sakana pay to cosplay phase connect>called jelly resist grim!
>>111719031Probably the Number 1 indicator of mental illness you can see on a body
>>111719113FWMC finished first in average CCV over the month of April for HoloENOn March, they were fourth, the last time they were below top 5 was June 2025
>>111719117You are mentally ill and ESL
>>111718686buddy she'll be lucky to get 30k
>>111719170Which is enough to get Global Gold these days.
>>111718609So much for support the company over the talents huh unicuck?
>>111719031
>>111718816>>They may have lost the largest percentage of their initial fanbase of anyone in Holo historyMyth
>>111719159clearly need more solo Fuwawa streams and MocoCC streams
>>111719094>cute girl cosplays anyone outside HololiveAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE!!!
>>111719210Oh no trust me, we hate Hololive cosplayers the MOST.Jean is a fucking parasite
>>111719178
>>111719219This
>>111718174Have you seen how much merch Ruffians had to buy in the last year? Really expensive stuff too like keyboards and those big axgrit figuresThey're not gonna waste more money on keychains
>>111719223what heppened??
>>111719219Lol she's actually not that different from her oshi personality wise
We love Riona here.
>>111719277correct
>>111719240shiori erb and bijou have an ongoing personal merch sale
>>111719277This and her bbc fetish
>>111718816>FWMC's merch fall off>some stupid chintzy shit that you only buy if you are also ordering a penlightogey
>>111719277plap
>>111719219>during holofes, watame cosplayer gets noticed by watame herself>watame compliments said cosplayer herself>watame cosplayer expresses gratitude on the verge of tears>this is a bad thing
>>111719277yes.t.African male
>>111719266You're right about that
>>111718654For these subhumans if the homos can't get literally everything under the sun then the entire company must suffer.
>>111719345If she's not a professional cosplayer and an actual fan then she might be good but a lot of them are grifters that use it to leech money from X fandom
>>111719277as a black man i agree
>>111718174this is grim, if the shirts and penlights also don't sell well then the concert for sure is going to be downscaled next year
>>111718746You know GG's stream is a Karaoke right? By the end of it I'd be surprised if she's at 5k
>>111719408>cosplaying is leeching... because it just is OK?>getting noticed by your oshi and expressing gratitude is a bad thingThe Modern Hololive Fandom, ladies and gentlement.
>>111718853lmao, I just noticed jutard's pfp is korean fuccboi-tier
>>111719438>You know Gigi's stream is a karaoke right?Wow, holy shit anon, did you know that my post specifically mentions Gigi singing? What kind of fucking mentally deficient shit are you even trying to say? My post was about how Raora wouldn't get 'spirit bombed' (raided) so why the fuck are you even bringing up ccv?
>>111719449>pros cosplaying vs regular fans cosplaying>arr rook sameWell, your name checks out, you're just one of the schizos from this hellhole.
>>111719302Yeah and none of them had all the other super expensive special merch like keyboard or giant figures for 400+ bucks
>>111716062>/vt/ spends years blasting Anycolor for starting VTA, calls it unfair, vows to sympathize with those who did not passWut? Whoever the fuck (in this thread at least) even give even a second glance at Niji-rejects-to-be?
>>111719502You seem upset
>>111719434They should just move it to New York City permanently if Los Angeles can't support hololive
>>111719531If anything we symphatize with those who PASS because they'll be forced to become Nijisanji members
>>111719210Why are you pretending you don't see the word grifter in the post?
>>111719031It's ribbon/corset piercings it's a bit niche part of Jirai Kei usually if I remember right but that's not really how it's supposed to look
>>111719515you lost napling.
I didn't expect Homosisters to melt down over Bazinga not being able to wear a skirt
>>111719502waiting room will get raided
>>111719515I could say the same to you faggot. Don't ever call a cosplayer who gets noticed by their oshi a leech again. You know your idol Helmir thought it was sweet of her to do so as well?
lmao who the fuck wants merch that looks like this?maybe if your oshi has no better merch herself, you gotta be kidding. Wouldn't even pay 1 dollar for that.
>>111719587Nigga can you fucking read
>>111719555Out of all of the VTA niggers the only one I know the name is >Seraph Dazzlegardenfor obvious reasons
>>111719520your past situation shouldn't have more of an effect than your present situation
>>111719587Thanks for namefagging, this way people can easily filter you out
>>111719595>lmao who the fuck wants merch that looks like this?
>>111719434There is no way they will sell well, absolutely nobody cares about the concert but autofister fans.
>>111719622>spend a shit ton of money on kino merch in the last year, now have to prioritize what you want (certainly not shitty keychains) >vs barely getting any great merch in the last year so you don't mind picking these upSure does
>>111719595we know homobeggar you don't buy any merch
>>111719622If I already burnt through literal thousands of dollars on merch I think I can skip the keychains
>>111719600This isn't a matter of reading though. This is to call you and your kind out for being fucking stupid. There's no "professional" cosplayers out there. Almost all of the cosplay you see comes from the fans themselves. So that would entail you and the rest of this thread to call someone who did it purely out of their heart for their oshi, a fucking leech. Which doesn't surprise me at all, because there just isn't anything sacred about Hololive, right?
>>111719656>There's no "professional" cosplayers out there.Kiara is going to fucking kill you, she is going to your house right now, prepare to die
who wins?
>>111719648Nice try, I constantly buy merch. Good merch that is, limited sets for multiple holos per year. I don't buy ugly as fuck keychains that look like some tumblr fag designed them.
>>111719668raora
>>111719623Nah, tired of people who think that cosplaying should only be reserved for sluts at Comic-Con and secondaries only. I appreciate it. Unlike everyone else here.
>>111719595
>>111719608I did a coin toss. Odds are you made that name up anon
>>111719688W-what?
>>111719667Don't bring her into this faggot. She herself would appreciate any KFP cosplaying as her fucking nigger.
>>111719673only a homobeggar would randomly make a post crying about people buying merch
>>111719702You heard me nigger, you want only normalfags such as yourself to do it instead of actual fans. And you get to claim authority over me?
>>111719673post merch
What's up with the namefag?
>>111719691>>111719741Stop. This is financial terrorism. I'm gonna report you to the Japanese authorities.
>>111719711Truth be told I’m all for Hane to cosplay as much as she wants
>>111719656na they're only a leech if they beg for money or have a onlyfans for their cosplay
>Kronii termination soon >Mori graduation soononly Shiwhori and the red whore left for EN to heal
>>111719760Good!>>111719768Well good thing few if any of the relevant ones actually cosplay Hololive/VTubers.
We like cosplayers here
>>111719741AAAIEEEEEEEEEE FINANCIAL TERRORISM
>>111719811>>>/lgbt/
>>111719783"feminized" no more?
>>111719741>>111719691>>111719639>>111719871My condolences, you truly have shit taste if you want tumblr shit like those keychains.
>>111719811this is a vtuber board no one gives a shit about your fleshwhores
>>111719639>>111719691>>111719741>>111719871its all me btw
>>111719639based merchbuying autofister fan
>>111719673>I constantly buy merch.post them
>>111719898before >lmao who the fuck wants merch that looks like this?and After >>111719898>you truly have shit taste if you want tumblr shit like those keychains.
>>111719573Evergreen >>111719384
>>111719902tourist
>>111719909I'm not gonna dox my room considering it's been on a room review already, but if it helps you I still have 3 limited sets coming my way as I type, plus a relax time fig.
>>111718593Rikku, Raora pl and current best friend that Raora ask to join her
Merch is a personal choice. If you don't like it, don't buy it. You're acting like anon just gave Cover nuke launch codes. Relax
>>111719668whoever Gigi ends up raiding>>111719691those prices are way cheaper in yen than in dollars
>>111719940There's just too much to choose from and not everyone can afford it.I get jealous of those who go all out but I won't lose sleep over it.Never understood why buying merch was a competition.
>>111719232>>111719232>>111719232
When it comes to unicorns......the moment you try to become a unicorn is when you're disqualified.
>>111719595This is why Serendipity is failing
>>111719741>ERBcuckgrim
>>111717897You should look forward to it because it's an actual company-sanctioned numberfagging and horse race shit just like we do it here. It's basically a thing made for /#/, just for us. I'm personally looking forward to it because you need to talk about their numbers by default. Global in tower will have to kill themselves, because in the end we won. They lost. Numbers ALWAYS mattered and always will. Cover sponsored OFFICIAL numbers contest? Are you fucking kidding me? A dream come true
>>111720008It's not failing, we're just in a jet fuel crisis and oil shock and not everyone can afford the experience before the orange retard decided to put his fingers on the buttons.
>>111719902Your oshi is a fleshwhore
>>111720019Just because you like to cheer on good numbers and milestones doesn't mean you want to see Cover fall into the depths of "GO HIT THIS NUMBER OR YOU'RE FIRED!!1" kurosanji shit. I want holo to do well and to keep their solid scouting intact, not for them to repeat shit niji tried.
>>111719960and the japs only pay $5 in shipping, they're in another dimension for merch
>>111719760same
>>111720019>>111720048That's a lot of words for saying you want to start Holo vs. Holo and make it the new culture of the Hololive experience.
Serendipity is failing because most Americans are spending their 4th with family, watching independence day or going to fireworks shows. no one is going to a concert on the 4th of July unless it was Michael Jackson
>>111720103Can you even read? How is >>111720048 anything like what you implied? I hate this new idea.
>>111720007so cool..