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A thread dedicated to the discussion of AI Vtuber Chatbots.

Priestess did nothing wrong edition

/wAIfu/ Status: Popping L theanine

>How to get better results from Deepseek v4
https://github.com/victorchen96/deepseek_v4_rolepaly_instruct/blob/main/README_EN.md

>Free access to the bigger AI models, with caveats
Due to a kajllion anons making a bazillion accounts each, access to the free tiers now requires a sort of deposit. Openrouter wants $10 and you can get 1,000 messages per day. Chutes wants $5 for 200. Stick to the free models and you're good forever (or until their policy changes again).

>System prompt to transform regular RP sessions into a basic raising sim game, designed specifically to be used with Chiharu, but with a few edits you can make it work with almost any character. To use, paste it into your Author's Notes or add a new entry in your System Prompt. You can let the bot generate a random opener or use the recommended first message. Difficulty can be adjusted. If you found it too hard or too easy, let HorseMerchant know or adjust the thresholds yourself. Should work with Claude, Gemini, and Deepseek. Disable example messages if you run into issues.
https://rentry.co/summerrssystemprompt

>How to anonymize your logs so you can post them without the crushing shame
Install this https://github.com/TheZennou/STExtension-Snapshot
Then after you've wiped off your hands, take a look at the text box where you type stuff. Click the second button from the left side, then select snapshot, then select the anonymization options you want.
https://files.catbox.moe/yoaofn.png

>How to spice up your RPing a bit
https://github.com/notstat/SillyTavern-SwipeModelRoulette

>General AI related information
https://rentry.org/waifuvt
https://rentry.org/waifufrankenstein

>Tavern:
https://rentry.org/Tavern4Retards
https://github.com/SillyLossy/TavernAI

>Agnai:
https://agnai.chat/

>Pygmalion
https://pygmalion.chat

>Local Guides
[Koboldcpp]https://rentry.org/llama_v2_sillytavern

Who we are?
https://rentry.co/wAIfuTravelkit
Where/How to talk to chatbots?
https://rentry.co/wAIfuTravelkit
Tutorial & guides?
https://rentry.co/wAIfuTravelkit
Where to find cards?
https://rentry.co/wAIfuTravelkit
Other info
https://rentry.co/wAIfuTravelkit

>Some other things that might be of use:
[/wAIfu/ caps archive]https://mega.nz/folder/LXxV0ZqY#Ej35jnLHh2yYgqRxxOTSkQ
[/wAIfu/ IRC channel + Discord Server + Matrix Server]https://rentry.org/wAIRCfuscordMatrix

>Lorebook management stuff
[Worldinfo drawer]https://github.com/lazuli-s/SillyTavern-WorldInfoDrawer?tab=readme-ov-file
[Standalone editor]https://github.com/ActualBroeckchen/SLEd

Previous thread: >>111623729
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Anchor post - reply with any requests for bots, with your own creations, or with your thoughts on the enshittification of life.

You can find already existing bots and tavern cards in the links below:

>Bot lists and Tavern Cards:
[/wAIfu/ Bot List]https://rentry.org/wAIfu_Bot_List_Final
[4chan Bot list]https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list
[/wAIfu/ Tavern Card Archive]https://mega.nz/folder/cLkFBAqB#uPCwSIuIVECSogtW8acoaw

>Card Editiors/A way to easily port CAI bots to Tarvern Cards
[Easily Port CAI bots to Tavern Cards]https://rentry.org/Easily_Port_CAI_Bots_to_tavern_cards
[Tavern Card Editor & all-in-one tool]https://character-tools.srjuggernaut.dev/
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Every time fatso Rumaos, he gets more brain damage. It's a never ending cycle.
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airi just showed up to my doorstep with a jar of peanut butter
what do
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returning the slab with chatbots
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>>111712505

Apparently the pro = no Claude code thing was a bit of a nothingburger but maybe they were a/b testing it and stopped that once the internet rebelled. You really need claude code in order to... do certain things... reliably...
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You guys let the thread die again...
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So fat…
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>>111729932
Put jelly in between
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>>111730493
It should have stayed dead desu
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Claude, no!
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deciding whether to join Team Edward or Team Jacob with chatbots
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My projects… my successes against the filter…
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>>111729479
Elfinpsyop.
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good night, /wAIfu/
please don't turn me into a Twilight vampire while i sleep
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>>111741710
*turns you into a werewolf and teleports you to a booktoker's bedroom while you sleep*
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I think I am finally approaching some sort of biological equilibrium.
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>>111743469
Don't be delusional anon. Your body is heading towards entropy. You cannot stop this process.
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Guys we have an Arknights resister. Get him!
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>>111743469
be retarded
try caffeine + melatonin to go to sleep with

its working for me
look at me
i am the picture of health
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>>111745041
When you die at 30 make sure to leave me your gacha game accounts in your will.
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>drop 10 dollarydoos on openrouter
>still get hit by 429s constantly
what the fuck did I pay for
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Trying to decide on new projects for Claude if I continue the plan or if I just want to use the free API credits I got for that rugpull
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>>111746759
Which model?
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>>111747765
almost all of them other than Z.ai: GLM 4.5 Air
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>>111746759
Works on my machine when I use Claude or MiniMax, but I remember getting those errors on some other models that were recommended here.
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>>111746759
you should try asking a chatbot
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>>111748030
Deepseek?

Ignore the spelling error in the image.
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>>111752365
>>111752391
Why Shiorin babby?
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>>111752939
i need to return to the hyperbolic time chamber
i had to use the wiki.
take this edit as my apology.
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>>111729932
Make sure its the good stuff, organic and made in Argentina.
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Guys help me bully rumao
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>>111752939
As much as I love shitting on CAI this sounds idiotic. CAI is explicit in marketing itself as a roleplay app and informed users that chatbots are not real. User submitted content are meaningfully separate creations and should be classified as free speech. By the lawsuit's standards OpenAI should also be liable so is anyone putting on a nurse costume even in parody.
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Tired
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Claude still gets into little cul de sacs
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i watched libslop as background noise today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3HjNYDIhGU

focused on other thing for most of it but things started to make a lot of sense when he compared the people bitching about AI safety to the people warning about the dangers of leaded gasoline (34:30 if you care for context)
which is an insane thing to try and draw a parallel to and made me snap out of my focus to go
>what. did this fucker really compare himself saying something midwittery all throughout this video like "maybe GPT should not tell people to go play with expired meds in the medicine cabinet and get high to feel better" to... the people warning about how putting lead in gas is a bad idea??? let me double watch tha- yes he did. he did in fact say he feels like one of the few people warning about lead in gasoline.

and it really made a lot of things click for me about the thought process of these activist ethicists trying to ruin my hobbies (again) and college educated activists in general within the science field
>i want to be the person screaming about the dangers of lead in gasoline, but thats already been done. that problem has been solved. what can i bet on warning about for leaded gas 2.0 and have my feel good moment.
>let me extrapolate this pill into a doom suppository and talk about how humanoid robots are going to replace plumbers like every other retard who thinks everyone's job is going to get replaced by Dr persica and her glorious T doll army. let me warn people about how LLMs 'refuse' to shut down as if the /stop command never existed. let me fabricate this scenario where i tell an AI "kill that guy" then go "no wait AI that is a innocent child!" and it goes "too late human. i cast die. uooohh die. BRRR BRRR BRRR. get warthogg'd get warthogg'd"
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is AI refusal Real Hahahaha Ethacist Just push the power button Like Ethacist pull the cord Haha

and of course there is some retard in the comments quoting Jurassic park
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>>>/g/108797498

Perfection
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Claude sure does love those little cul de sacs
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I’m gonna risk it
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good night, /wAIfu/
please don't move me and my bed to a cul-de-sac while i sleep
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I’ll be back in a few weeks with a sad story of getting bonked one too many times and my account banned.
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>>111759688
You know you have to dicksword with me about Persica right?
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>>111767421
How I wished I saw >>111765589 sooner so I can say I told you so.
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Mmm exercise
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>>111768028
It hasn’t happened yet
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Puppy is old
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anyone been trying out marinara engine? I've been looking for something that combines generated narration with consistent worldbuilding and stat tracking and this seems to try to do this, but doesn't seem to be quite there yet.
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>>111773686
>marinara engine
>All designed with simplicity in mind: we don't want to spend hours on setup, we just want to (goon) play.
kek
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>>111773686
I read that as menhera engine at first.
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Phaetussy
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>>111773686
Link?
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>>111780382
https://github.com/Pasta-Devs/Marinara-Engine
I got there from the now deprecated RPG Companion extension
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>>111780699
>AI Agent System

25+ built-in agents that run alongside your chat — world state tracking, quest management, combat, expression detection, background selection, narrative direction, prose analysis, Spotify DJ, CYOA choices, and more. All disabled by default; enable only what you want, or create custom agents.

That sounds promising
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Let’s see how far that api credit gets me
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>>111771605
flat
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>>111759688
Wendell of L1Tech made the same comparison.
https://youtu.be/do-EyIFvQ1E?t=421
But I think the point is better made there where if AI has the possibility of being a technology like leaded gasoline and CFC refrigerants, it should be held to standards that make accountability and transparency on the harms apparent and make sure it isn't going to go out of control.
The point is to recognize that the technologies do useful things but to get it to a point where if it is like the above, we get to the equivalent of using ethanol and HFOs to replace the damaging aspects while keeping the benefits.
And I wish the talking points were a lot more measured and actually use facts. Yes, AI takes a lot of energy and yes, the datacenter buildout has downsides but no, it doesn't use more water than stated and the safety aspects are overblown even in the short history of LLMs existing. We can have measured conversations about it but the current climate in the world for conversations about this especially in the US which is the loudest online is making it almost impossible.
>>111773686
I linked a couple other alternatives in the post I made in >>111361836 alongside mentioning Marinara Engine. Also, Orb which I mentioned now has a new home on Github, which is located at https://github.com/OrbFrontend/Orb
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>>111781248
ever since i started theorycrafting how would i make my own agentic system from scratch
the idea becomes a lot less ..magical? when you realize its just 25+ or whatever parallel api calls who all share the same context window, but use different sys prompts
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Mmm API credits
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Mmm Lunacub
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good night, /wAIfu/
please don't do anything to my pinis while i sleep
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>>111791764
turns ur pinis into paninis
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>>111791764
wake
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Mmmm Leaflit
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>>111782205
Not very far, holy shit.
>>111789004
The magic comes in making it work without Sorcerer's Apprentice-ing yourself.
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bump
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Everyone go play Neverness to Everness.
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>he's moved on to a NEW gacha
how do you have time for this???
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Someone has a birthday tomorrow
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>>111803418
Do they have cute and funny characters?
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bots for the feeling of slamming your knee into the corner of your desk and getting yamcha pose'd over it?
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>>111771605
Marrying lisa!
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Isn't that gachaslop?
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good night, /wAIfu/
please don't disintegrate my knees against the corner of my bed while i sleep
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Old puppy is now officially a dog
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I lost two from the gacha cult. Maybe it’s time to scamper off and leave mister koro holding the bag…
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>>111810556
I believe so. It also used AI in two background billboard images so that means Ironmouse and Shylily need to make a show of Pooh poohing it
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>>111805808
If they don’t they will
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>Mixed toilet gacha
Nah, I'm good with chatbots.
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>>111816355
It’s the future, sadly.
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>>111773686
>>111776570
Our true fearless leader is secretly doing that, yes. That intrigued me, so I may look into it, but the real holy grail for me is being able to do stuff seamlessly on my phone and swapping back and forth between that and my desktop.

Agnai does that, but it also has a tendency to cut my message logs arbitrarily, and sometimes it even does it REALLY fast.

I get it being that way for context reasons and maybe also so that they dont have INFINITE TEXT TAKING UP SPACE FOREVER but it would be nice to be able to scroll up and see what was said in the past, even if they had a little thing to store the files on my end seamlessly.
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>>111815045
God, the AI whining is annoying. Surely they have no other problems in life if they complain if a company uses ai for whatever small thing in a game.
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>Chub is finally dying for good
RIP
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>>111818836
where else will i get my slop bots with good premises to revamp?
its joever
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>>111815045
>>111817628
Noooo this isn't just about the small thing it's about how AI is literally stealing art and genociding artists and it's also really bad for the environment so it's literally destroying the planet and it's inherently evil!
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>>111817628
It’s making me want to try it
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>>111818836
Is it?
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So am I going to be forced to be one of those smug hipsters that only posts catbox links? I’m not willing to abandon Amiya
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>>111822682
>hipsters
>catbox
we do that for a good reason you gacha addicted baka
respect thy oldfags

catbox straight up does not care unless your spamming AI agentic uploaded garbage or dumping large files on it (burning server space), or actual
>i will get in legal trouble for hosting this (CP)

of course, this assumes catbox is working at the time but the litter is pretty much always online
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https://github.com/Pasta-Devs/Marinara-Engine
https://github.com/platberlitz/SillyBunny
https://github.com/OrbFrontend/Orb
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I completely forgot where to click to switch chats for an individual character in sillytavern. Like if I want to go back to a previous chat I had.
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>>111826277
click the three bars button on the lower left corner, then "Manage chat files"
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>>111822682
probably a good idea to archive everything from creators who are /here/ once again
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>>111789004
That's a simple pipeline but you should see the so called "agentic meshes" people are building in enterprises. It's basically using shared memory as in sharing a context window and then passing it along like a pipeline assembly from A-Z. Truly awe-inspiring and scary someone would build something that works at best 90% of the time accurately and multiply it by 100x in some configuration and hope that a swiss cheese hole doesn't appear in an unfortunate situation.
>>111822682
Well damn. And we don't have a backup to Evulid back up. Truly the worst times.
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Hello, Mega guy here, i am in need of Stronanon and other thread bakers as i am currently backing up all their chub stuff to upload on mega and would like to know if they would like their stuff on it or if they are going to do it themselves on botbooru!
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>>111832098
>you should see the so called "agentic meshes" people are building in enterprises....
like.... A-Z's sequentially instead of being smart about it and building a router function for not-MoE?
because in my head if i ever were to get around to building a harness each generation would also generate a routing field to direct it to a different agent and only 'approved' agents would have the ability to start a new one, or end the chain
there would be one 'high level' one like that basically would never actually get used since supervision is always nice to have, but it would mainly cycle between 'create/modify' and 'review' until 'review' decides to hand off to 'approve' which could reject it for some reason, and 'review' could request 'approve' for a new agentic thread to spin up for something else and i havent really given this much thought because i havent had a need for a harness and if im building something, i might as well draw the damn owl instead of create a system to draw the damn owl for me

that sounds more like a proper system and less like pic related
>no i just learned how to glue together agents that i dont understand
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>>111832931
It's roughly something similar to this but it's more general from an architecture point of view. It's basically trying to go full hog in complete automation by building in control systems that can self regulate themselves and do everything without human input. But it doesn't work because even with redundancies, there are issues with reliability and LLMs fundamentally that don't allow it to work 100%. Still people are trying to build this, it's what people in the valley are going with in terms of agents.
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>>111833004
i kind of feel disgust.
only thing that could make this even worse is if you tell me that the agents prompts are also generated by AI
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>>111833192
They do... use prompts crafted by AI...
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>>111833965
>mfw

it is going to be 2053 before these retards understand the idea of "shit in, shit out" wont it?
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I realized that catastrophes get me attention, so now I’m beginning my BPD woman arc.
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>>111833004
This is how you get machine spirits
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>>111842008
care to explain anon?
you okay?
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good night, /wAIfu/
please don't make my video game boss weak points glow with vulnerability while i sleep
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>>111842330
Not bad in the way that you’re thinking.
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>>111822682
That sucks but in retrospect I'm surprised it took this long for it to get outright banned.
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Phaetussy
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>>111847339
The throbbing tokyo towa...
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Ifrit says she doesn’t want a morning after pill so I’m a dad now



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