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>>111752826

Was lumi a normie before her babysitter became a massive influence on her?

I love Lumi
I love Miia

we need more brown lumi

>>111752826
What is the implication that vtuber spaces are critique free zones, where only positive and assenting viewpoints are allowed?

>>111754071
are you asking what implications flow from the present, which you define here as a hug box; or are you asking what else would likely result were vtubing to become a hugbox in the nearish future?

>>111754203
The latter, based on the image OP posted

>>111752826
Aristotle is better. Also, Socrates may have diddled kids which is why he was convicted of "corruption of the youth."
Also, wouldn't Vtubers all have "advanced and refined" thoughts cause of their self-conflicts with their mood swings and strange thoughts?

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>You and Lumi have been best friends since you were children
>She's always been a single child with a dream of being an idol.
>You just played along with her fantasies thinking that nothing will come off it. After all, she was just a daughter from a high-class family while you were middle-class at best.
>This was the norm for 8 years, until one day, her mother brings home a a baby boy after her stay in a hospital.
>Nothing changes at first, other than Lumi occasionally gushes about having a baby brother.
>for reasons unknown, whenever Lumi talks about her baby brother you would get an ache in your chest.
>Time passes and Lumi and You are both in high-school and she even manages to be part of some singing group and figure skating competitions
>However, the times spend together have become few and far between, with Lumi doing nothing but gushing about her baby brother and even taking him to his extracurricular activities after school.
>She eventually stops hanging out with you to be with him during his sport events, even proudly posting a photo of him and herself when he wins a trophy
>the distance only grows after you attempt to confess to her to take her out to prom, with her only words being “ew.”
>soon thereafter, Lumi goes to college for her bachelor’s degree without saying goodbye
>You still hold out hope that you can rekindle your friendship with her even as years passes.
>as half a decade passes, you hear from different sources that Lumi manage to be hired at an idol company from Canada and see that she chose to celebrate that with her family with no message from her
>eventually you even hear that Lumi is coming back to town to be there in-person to celebrate her brother’s highschool graduation.
>Dressing in your finest clothes, you head to her family home, one that hasn’t change in the slightest since you were a child.
>You could say nothing but watch as Lumi ask who you are, or why you’re here.
>She didn’t even recognize you
>That was the last time you saw her, hugging her brother while walking with her family to some fancy upper-class restaurant, all the while ignoring you.

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Every day I walk past a ballet school and glance through the windows at some cute slightly older girls and think my Lumi could be in there sigh and go on with my day.

>>111754760
This could be a summary of a tragic film about the inescapable division that forms between humans over time, far harsher than anything fiction has yet captured.

>>111754001
what we really need is a context that lumi creates, enables, or, better yet, allows to evolve at the rate stimualting interaction requires. don't get me wrong, she obviously put in the effort to deserve her today's uppies.
the issue is really about how the internet, as a medium, functions as the mental equivalent of a heat sink. it even does so automatically by transforming otherwise ordinary tasks into challenges that are sufficiently compelling to command attention and draw in resources. one need look no further for an excellent example than getting to know someone properly for the first time in a online appropriate manner.
a vtuber does the work of presenting a newish viewer with mysteries to solve and puzzles to crack any time she streams. I just don't know how to go about scaling that nerd energy after exhausting everything that can be learned through vtubing appropriate interactions.
in real life, this gets much easier after you get to know someone. you simply create the context individually tailored for fun brain time. hell, like she says, just talking about polysci can make for years of good conversation.
figuring this out and doing the work to make it happen is typically the natural responsibility of a man. he even figures out how to pitch it and get the yes. vtubers are obviously too schizo to hang out like normal people (and not without reason). they also can't keep things interesting by focusing on the interesting because a big audience will find a way to cancel or derail, etc.
so how does a vtuber either act like a man by forcing the context to evolve or act like a woman to allow and enable the same?

>>111754071
oh I forgot to tag you in the above ramble, but those are my general thoughts. especially with a chat that suffers from cancel twitter tendencies.

>>111755312
god gumicucks are so retarded

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>>111755312

What race is lumi and why does she talk like that?

>>111755312
The vtuber as the subject of attention really has to be responsible for keeping chat on point, but when chat brings up good points or deviations, they can curate and discuss them at their leisure as appropriate. In a way the vtuber is the man in the relationship, the vtuber is in control. It's possible that if the technology was suddenly there, such a thing as vtubing simply would fail instantly in say 1950s US. The men would not be receptive to this type of social dynamic, but it works in the 2020s US and other countries.

>>111756991
She's a magical star gnome. Only 6 are known to exist at any given time.

>phase asmr relay
Okay seriously HOW do we get Lumi to do an asmr stream. I know she won't do it willingly so we have to make her lose a bet or something.

>>111757588
Sakana has to pressure her or something.

>>111757588
I wouldn't want asmr from Lumi desu. There is no way she doesn't do it ironically.

>>111757862
Would Lumi even listen and do what Sakana says.

I suppose satan's reasoning that it was better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven holds just as true in these cases. better the self-assured omnicience of the solipcistic neet than face the reality of never understanding why in the world of other people.

>>111758350
if she fucked something up and this was the punishment, sure. however it would be highly unwise for someone in sakana's position to associate workplace discipline with acts of an explicitly sexual nature. as one might imagine.

cant believe Lumi is not chinese

>>111757588
blackmail would work but burning through that card on a public performance has cuck energy.
lumi reliably follows through on what she believes to be her obligations. the trick is keeping her from gaslighting herself into thinking no such obligation was triggered or exists.
our best bet, perhaps ironically, is to wait for her to find a way to interact with her chat in a manner that allows her to respect it. for now, any time she gets pressrd, she will just use the mob as a human shield and/or a means of generating a retarded strawman to focus on for the duration.

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Why are Gumis like this?

https://x.com/Cipherprofile/status/2053638936077955456
Is this true about us???

Lumi is EN Fiana.

>>111760518
yeah but the guys who say you suck in that are performative and they still want her

>>111754760
Would Lumi unironically drop a friend like this? I thought she said she fights to keep friendships alive.

>>111755021
She doesn't do ballet anymore

abusers are either impotent losers starved for attention or people with an actual plan. the former are objects of pity. the latter do it out of love. win win.

>>111762476
Who does Lumi abuse

>>111762671
lumi? she's more hide, dely, deny than an abuser.

>>111762671
Her father and brother. They have so much trust in her, yet she betrays them every time.

>>111762671
fat people

>>111762476
>I'm such an abusechad, Lumi do you love me yet???
pathetic

>>111766011
I was referring to some very faggy posts on main, but that's good for you. I guess. let us know if that works out for you.

>>111752826
just dont care for the dialectic or signal errors if reality is objective then theres no way you can know of it cause it exist outside your physical limitations (object permanence is a psyop)

Busy these weeks what am I missing?

>>111766085
cry some more about why she doesn't use the eye toggles that make your pp hard, I'm sure she'll listen this time

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https://www.youtube.com/live/Qo9mQ5gjrEw

Tardwife live and being cute solving puzzles

>>111766416
oh. you're actually seething, huh? well feel better. remember to drink water

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So is she actual gf material, or is Lumi one of those ghouls who has no empathy and thinks it's really funny?

>>111767191
idk about gf/wife material but she's really sweet and uses her inner ghoul as cope

>>111767191
Boring setup you should actually watch streams and livepost

>>111767220
Which is the real Lumi and which is false?

>>111767981
>authenticity from a woman
you're so silly

>>111768045
kek

>>111760518
>Lumi says she doesn't appreciate toxic positivity
>retards introduce a layer of fake toxic negativity muddying the waters further and branding her with very weird public image

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>>111769596
it's her main selling point, that's how she roped me in

>>111769596
this. I don't get how anyone could be threatened enough to feel hate. I like her enough to get disappointed, but the hate thing feels too performative.

>>111769649
You're describing a lolcow. I have a feeling she doesn't enjoy being a clown.

>>111752826
>1980
I would enjoy vtubers more if vtubing started in 2011 when the first mikuvrtuber shit was invented.

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>>111769798
This is her favorite meme and legacy

>>111769973
Well, I will rephrase it then. I feel that she doesn't appreciate being treated as a clown if it's not on her own terms. Racoomi for example was hilarious as fuck. Dealing with "roped in" people that just want to make fun of you is entirely different thing.

>>111770119
>I feel that she doesn't appreciate being treated as a clown if it's not on her own terms.
That is the social cost of being a clown, you gain free clout but lose dignity

>>111769649
why do her biggest fans also hate her?

Honestly lumi should molest her brother

>>111770793
But she already did to get back at starmom.

>>111770177
Yes, but chat culture can make it worse. When a weido discovers the stream lured by lolcow reputation, and sees everyone shitting on streamer (as a joke), they feel at home and join the shitting (but not as a joke anymore). And feeling at home they make it their new home. Past a certain point of theseus' ship the shitting stops being a joke.

>>111771120
Feeling anything from this is the consequences of a moderated internet, can't relate

>>111770793
I feel like she definitely did something to him

>>111771236
Understandable, but you don't have to interact with a thousand people dogpile live on a daily basis. When somebody calls you a faggot you can chuckle, return the slur and get along with your day. Now imagine a thousand internet trolls standing behind your back while you work.

>>111771433
Think about that for a second and then think about why she considers VTubers a race of bottoms and masochists

>>111771478
> she considers VTubers a race of bottoms and masochists
You sure she’s not projecting

>>111771518
Ember is considered the top in Phase and she is a cuckquean

>>111770793
Is she just jealous of his more simple enjoyment of life?

>>111771596
Proof of ember being a cuckquean

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Why can't we all just be nice :(

I think lumi is at her best in those moments when we get to see how she unironically really isn't like the other girls. we rarely see it now that chatism usually triggers her introvert shut down defences within 15 minutes.
But I remember how she gets when she wants to impress someone she admires. I think the easiest way to describe it is genuine pickme without any of the cynical connotations. literally every other girl I know grew out of such unblemished motivations. not her.
that's what makes one not give up on her.

>>111771683
I might have misspoke, her ideal relationship is being the +1 girl in a relationship together with a husband and wife. So technically not the cuckquean, but she's open to the idea of being that for Dizzy

>>111771604
I never understood why Lumi has contempt for Starbro’s more simplistic enjoyment in life. Does it have anything to do with their upbringings?

>>111771833
They didn't put her brother through ancient USSR torture techniques

Lumi is still seething
https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi

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>I don't look good with dark hair
does she know?

>>111771833
Lumi read Hume while Starbro read Kant. Many such cases.

>>111772863
Love her so much

Deus Ex, more like Dark Ex
how is anyone supposed to see what is going on?

>>111775644
Old games weren't afraid of pulling shit like this for immersion

Would Lumi love Spartan Philosophy because it refuses to do any sort of introspection?

>>111775862
Sparta has philosophy