Uh-oh... Cover is starting to buyback their stock nowIt doesn't look good holobros
Considering they only put stock up to make money to afford the studio/etc, it isn't as big of a deal as with Niji
lol, not unexpected after the failure of holoearth
>>111834087Well, that's grim. Nothing lasts forever, I guess. My oshi's doing well as an independent, but best of luck to the girls that stay. Hope they don't go full niji on them.
Buying back stock is actually a ploy to encourage investors to buy, because the buy pressure makes it a safe investment for the time being as the company isn't selling or issuing new stock and therefore the number will tend to go up, weakening bears.In Korea this is exacerbated as shorting is actually illegal.
>>111834087Buybacks are indeed bad and are always done to protect the stock valueAnycolor has done a sum total of $95,012,175.00 over the course of 3 years This is the first time cover is doing buyback because they were affected by a lot of shit
>>111834087You can't spell Cover without over
>>111834677>In Korea this is exacerbated as shorting is actually illegal.Shorting in general, or uncovered?Because options in general have very valid business reasons to exist, and the fact that they are getting abused by some is just a side effect
>buybacks are suddenly good and necessary nowholocultists earning a gold medal in mental gymnastics today
>>111834826Number is only allowed to go up.
>>111834891>>111834779retard
>>111834891>Nijisister invents her own caricature of enemy to get mad onThis is really pathetic...
>>111834779because anycolor can buyback with trillion dollar and they still have more budget money left unlike cover with their tiny declined profitlearn the difference
>anycolor buying back = good>holo buyinb bacl = badi see how it is and who's seething
>>111834937Holobronies already starting with the usual revisionism I see.
>>111834779Cover is just doing it to prevent a panic sell-off after that awful earnings report. Their situations are different.
>>111835138Yeah, you
>>111835177Show me someone saying it's good sister instead of just projecting
>>111835138>niji made too much money so they buyback stock to not waste money on tax and still have more than double budget money to spend on other thing than cover>cover is losing money but still need to buyback stock to please investorlearn the difference
>>111834087"growth" stock at an all time low even when the yen's value is in the gutter HAHAHAHA
>>111834087>sell stock to make money for studio>buy stock back when you canAnd the problem is...?
>>111834779>Compare a company posting strong quarterly earnings and having enough cash to confidently buy back shares vs a company suffering massive losses and using buybacks to save face.Fucking retard
>>111834087This should put an end to Holofags' cope>Cover isn’t a black corpo like AnyColor because they don’t care about investors. See, no buyback or dividendsAll corpos are corpos after all
>>111835308>>111835592>a company suffering massive losses and using buybacks to save face.Anon? Did you forget the entirety of 2024 and 2025? Hell, they STILL haven't recovered back to their 2023 numbers. There is no such thing as "lol we have sooo much money let's waste it all on the investors." Buybacks are always bad. Always.
>>111834228FPBPOP BTFO
>>111835627What number retard
>>111834891The reason we make fun of anyvolor doing it is because riku pays himself 50% of the dividends they pay out. It's literally just a tool to funnel as much money into his pockets, and your niji homos and literal whores(lunlun, enna, etc.) all lose.
>>111835780>being majority owned by investors is a good thing actually
>>111835780Fatfuck lmao can't even type anything right
ELI5 buying back stocks
>>111835899bad
>>111835683C'mon, sis. Use those two braincells rattling around in that empty head of yours.What number are you trying to raise when you initiate a stock buyback? Think very hard on this.
>>111836228Tell it already fatty lol
>>111836273>Company showing strong return vs Company doing buyback to save faceis this nigga seriously a sister or just trolling for the fun of it
>>111835886>funneling all of the money to riku's bank account is a good thing actuallynone of your niji shitters are getting paid over six figures by the way
>>111836600/biz/ here. Absolutely expected given Cover now is in the same position Anycolor was a year ago. Expect dividends if investor trust in the company doesn't get better within the next year.
>>111836600>Did you forget the entirety of 2024 and 2025? Hell,they STILL haven't recovered back to their 2023 numbers.Massive retard
>>111836600well I have some news for you anon
>>111836600
I have 10 mil yen invested in Cover. AMA
>>111837160post unrealized losses
>>111837195About 2 mil yen atm, might be double that tomorrow
>>111836791After market right We have few announcements tomorrow
>>111836728>funneling all of the money to riku's bank account is a good thing actuallyyou know anyone can get dividends riku is getting by purchasing anycolor stock right you fucking idiot
>>111837337yeah and how much of that goes to the 90% of shitters in niji that are in debt and earning less than minimum wage? KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO
>>111837395>yeah and how much of that goes to the 90% of shitters in niji that are in debt and earning less than minimum wage? KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOholo retard is actually mentally deficient. has no idea how dividends work and crashes out
>buybacks means Cover is in debtNow THERE's a schizo take
>>111837475>y-you just don't understand how dividends work!Yeah paying 30b yen out of their earnings each year to investors, half of which goes to riku while your broke shitter nijis get nothing KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
i love when people that know nothing about the financial world speak confidently about it
>>111837491dozens of posts trying that angle for the last few hours, he's truly retarded
>>111837601Better yet I love it when people assume that buyback means paying off debts. We really need to rangeban SEA at this point.
>>111837601I love when nijibrowns accuse others of knowing nothing while inventing fantastical ways to cope with their broke shitter nijis falling further in debt during their employment under anycolor, while their investors and riku get millions from slave labor!
>>111837605The worst part is all of the tourists on Xitter probably think he's right and Cover is actually in debt but no one would ever hide debt on a financial report because they'd be held liable for that.I love sharing a board that's filled with retards that don't understand how financial reports work. Truly astounding takes that make me want to pull my hair out.
why are you people pretending that corporate debt is bad? every company takes loans if it benefits them financially. even nvidia takes out loans
>>111837650>inventing fantastical ways to cope with their broke shitter nijis falling further in debt during their employment under anycolor, while their investors and riku get millions from slave labor!idk that sounds like the usual holo cope. let me guess, niji is going to collapse tomorrow? how long have we've been hearing that?
Can cover go private again? Don't see the benefits of being public.
>>111837811NTA but they haven't even bothered to announce NijiEN's anniversary. Their last remaining foreign branch is definitely not doing too well.
>>111837862if they want to drop that load of cash all at once i guess
>>111837811Of course riku won't allow niji to collapse, it's the best pseudo pyramid scheme vtubing operation where he continues to deceive investors just enough to keep lining his pockets off of his debt-ridden organs' labor.
>>111837749What debt? They aren't taking on loans or issuing bonds to buy back this stock.The narrative is actually that Cover rugpulled anyone who bought the IPO, used the cash to expand capex, failed to deliver on their growth strategy, and is now orienting toward their core business focus again (cutting off the Stars and axing HoloEarth). A buyback is strictly rational if they believe they're undervalued.
>>111834228That makes it worse, silly.
>>111837916I mean NijiEN is pretty much history at this point. It's only places like /vt/ that seem to not have moved on while most people who are not invested in this weird tribalism have.
>>111837916>https://x.com/i/status/2054034075321807285>2days agoRetard
Anycolor's profit was up by 45% while Cover's profit was down by 45 because of their 750 employees(lol) and Holoearth but somehow Holo is winning.
>>111838334where's the merch nijicuck
>>111838374too bad none of the organs see that money :/ but holoearth getting nixed along with homos is great news so yeah, Holowins
>>111838374Cover is losing profit because they're using it for the talents, while Anycolor is being stingy trying to save money as much as possible, Cover is obviously the good guy here.
>>111834087>buying back to save holostarswtf why is Yagoo doing this?
>>111835138>buyinb baclYou obviously since you can't type right
>>111834228fpbp
>thirdies try to understand financeanyway, things went downhill when they went public and outside investors had influence. now they're reducing outside influence and that's good.
>>111838419Holoass isn't talents
>>111838419>they're using it for the talents>3 billion on the metaverse that worse that crypto>1.8 billion write off in un-sell merchlol lmao
I'm trying to understand how Holofans still think all this news isn't that big of a deal or a nothing burger with a silver lining. Sure they are 'supposedly' freeing money up to use on the talents but-Confirmation that HoloEarth was a failure that wasted 3.2 billion yen/20 million USD-Additional losses for massive amounts of unsold merch-Top management voluntarily taking 20% paycuts in recognition of their mistakes-Cover planning to do its first stock buybacks later this year, the very same tactic that we lambast Kurosanji for rightfully.It sounds like bad news on bad news on bad news on bad news. Sure there might be a better future at some point but I don't see how in this snapshot in time, this financial report can be seen as anything else besides a catastrophic failing.
>>111841602Everyone with a brain saw that holoearth was a retarded waste of money, and everyone here kept callng it out every since it was even announced. It would have been better if it never happened, but finally cutting the life support on it is a good thing.
>>111841602The supposed changes could genuinely bring another golden age and money will be fine once holodori launches
>>111834087So, how much stock would need to be bought to go private again? I've always said that cover should go private again but they seemingly would never buy their stock back so I had given up.
>>111841602Because the girls are still making money, the card game is still selling, and the concerts are still big. That's what people want from cover, not all that extra stuff.
>>111834087It's LITERALLYLIT.ER.AL.LY.fine whenever Hololive does it.When Nijisanji does it? You know I'll be first in line to shit on them.But Hololive? S'all good. Based, even.
>>111838419SAY IT AGAIN!
>>111841602>holoeartheveryone said turn it into more concerts or kill it. we got what we wanted>unsold merchmaybe they'll make better merch or make it cheaper. it'll push them to change things up, which is good.>top management take 2 month pay cutsthis is unimportant. the real key point is that they just cut salaries for directors. i don't really care either way.>cover is planning stock buybackswe hated the ipo. if they reduce public stock outside influence is reduced. companies buy back stock for multiple reasons.it shows a company reacting to current conditions, which is both good and bad. it's bad that they are less healthy, but all vtubing companies have seen changes in the market. the challenges aren't just being faced by cover. the good part is they're making changes and trying to solve the problems.
>>111841602>Cover nuking a harmful project is bad>Cover nuking a harmful project with a faggot director is bad>Cover firing a director who's been on record saying he'd like talents to quit so he can push his shitty holo earth mascot is somehow bad,>Cover buying back stock to get it out of the hands of investors that could potentially fund a similar harmful project is bad>Cover buying back stock to get it out of the hands of greedy chinks that are still trying to buy cover out is somehow badCover only went public for that studio, they got what they needed, and its been proven investors are faggots. >>111842016How many times do you need to be told this, but unironically? lol.
The 2024-2025 graduations really did a number on cover, huh? If only the management wasn't so dumb then maybe Kanata would still be here.
This would be a problem... if Cover cared more about shareholder value than about the talents.
>>111841602>Additional losses for massive amounts of unsold merchThis part is kinda funny because its more than what nijisanji announced and everyone lost their minds.
>>111834228>put up stock to raise capital>then buy it back with the capital you raisedThis is basically the definition of a bad thing. It means the fiscal announcements were so bad that Cover felt they needed to put their stock on life support.>"But wait," you may ask, "if the stock was put up to raise capital, why waste capital propping it up after the fact?"Because enough stock is on the market for Cover's governance to be accountable to shareholders (hence, board of directors) and those influential shareholders are unhappy with both Cover's fiscal situation and the status of their stock. Propping up the value of Cover stock is now Cover's only priority as a company, either to keep the value of those investments afloat or to provide a golden parachute as they jump ship.This is bad. It was bad when Nijisanji did it but from the outset they were always a cynical shell company for a young oligarch to sell 'diversification' to the stock market under an amateur talent pyramid scheme. Cover began as a passion project, and it had been run as a passion project. Now it's run as yet another soulless tentacle of the finance Cthulhu.
>>111845362>then buy it back with the capital you raisedthat's not what is happening. they spent that money on the things they raised capital for. this makes everything else you wrote incorrect.
>>111845362Too /biz/ brained for /vt/
>>111838419Screaming
>>111834087What changes are they going to make to HoloEarth?
>>111834087Nobody cares about stock buybacks nijinigger
>>111847913based. we only care when kurosanji does it
>>111834087>Hololive doesn't care about their stock like Niji-ACKwell that's one dead cope
>>111845362>This is bad. It was bad when Nijisanji did it but from the outset they were always a cynical shell company for a young oligarch to sell 'diversification' to the stock market under an amateur talent pyramid scheme. Cover began as a passion project, and it had been run as a passion project. Now it's run as yet another soulless tentacle of the finance Cthulhu.Yeah, that's what bothers me.Losing both the homos and holoearth kind of shatters the idea of the wholesome, infallible "good" corpo that can keep everybody happy without worrying about investor nonsense. Now, the worry becomes that they really could become a investor-led machine like Niji if things manage to get worse, when before it was a ridiculous concept.
>>111838419>Cover is losing profit because they're using it for the talentsyou retards can't even shill right.
>>111841602>the very same tactic that we lambast Kurosanji for rightfullylmao you really think this is some internet war to you.
>>111845362yes they've just been sitting on the money they from the IPO literally years ago and now this is real and happened. fuckingRETARD
>>111849980NTA but if the rat hasn't paid it off, that literally means that the company paid for it so she wouldn't have to at the time. Thus, by definition they lost money by using it for the talents
>>111841602And that's ignoring all of the concerns and complaining a lot of the EN talents have been doing lately. Add in the management and shifting focus talked about by both graduates and members during the stretch of people leaving and it makes you wonder how someone could be so willfully retarded.Don't worry though, they'll take these statements as "YOU'RE SAYING COVER IS SHIT AND WILL FAIL TOMORROW" when it's just noticing and talking about issues.
