>vtubers (streamers with virtual avatars) when your fans and your corpo actually want you to stream for more than 1 hour every 3rd day
Does she not realize the only reason people buy the merch, the concert tickets, listen to her songs, is because they built up a connection with her through those "gajillion streaming hours"?
How can fags like you even talk about stream hours and small breaks from people like Mori when there's fags in the branch who have under 500 hours a year
>>111892595Retarded thread to make when she's literally streaming right now and her next stream after that is in less than 36 hours
>>111892595What a numberfaggot
>>111892595My favorite streamer has streamed every day for 5 years and he hasn't burnt out yet
>>111892677When will you realize that those people never cared about that stuff and it was only used as a sticking point against Holos. Gura is popular and very successful, well she doesn't stream enough; Fauna or Keala stream a lot, well they are the slowest growing in their gen; the dogs are the fastest growing in their gen, well they don't use enough English, etc. Clear and repeat. Move goal post to merch, streaming hours, vods views, awards, etc.
>>111892595i hope cover fires her over this since she apparently hates streaming anyway? she's basically just admitting that she's using hololive to get her shitty music out since her independent music "career" was completely dead before joining
>>111893211I think they're more upset that Mori is trying to cause drama
>>111893211Why would they fire her for that?The top JP member hates streaming and Cover encourages not streaming. They unironically prefer talents who prioritize anything else besides streaming.
>>111893211She's going to get her way anyway. There's been a ton of graduations and haachama crashed out and is still around despite that.
>I make songs for anime!yeah uhh, so what?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFf1gl1vUW0https://www.youtube.com/@Hizuki_Yui_/streamshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj0H9Ce1-nIhttps://www.youtube.com/@HiguchiKaede/streamsothers also do anime songs and can still stream normally
>>111893448i also love that singing to music somebody else made constitutes "making songs". nigga you're not making shit. she doesn't even write the lyrics most of the time
>>111893448Ugh.... But like... I only want to stream flavor of the month...And flavor of the month doesn't really come every month you know???
>>111893504trvke
>>111892661Not quite. It depends on where she is in her career path now (or how high her popularity is). Streaming a bunch helps a lot with building the fanbase, but once you established a solid fanbase, there is diminish return to that and other activities might be more helpful in furthering her career. Streaming 100 hours in 2026 probably will get Mori a lot fewer fans (be it earning new fans or retaining fans who would've dropped her otherwise) than doing the same in 2022, for example.Think of AKB: when a member just starts out, they usually spend most of their time in their "theater" (a medium-sized room for ~200 people) interacting with fans almost daily, but the more popular a girl is, the less time she will be there (or interact directly with fans at all) because she will be swamped with many other activities (recordings, attend TV shows, etc.).Most of music-focused Holo eventually cut down their streaming time. Suisei even openly said that she doesn't want to stream much because streaming numbers might drag her music down in the algorithm. Mori just figured it out now (or more accurately, realized that she doesn't need to spam streams as the leader of holoEN)
>>111892661If Marine can take this route without even having to justify herself, why can't Mori?
>>111893658>Most of music-focused Holo eventually cut down their streaming time.Untrue. Most of the holos that have released several albums stream regularly.
>>111893508Her last gaming stream before her break was her playing Darksiders
>>111893728Ew
>>111892595>I make songs for anime, do I NEED a gajillion streaming hours?:skull::skull::skull:
>>111893722So does Mori. Her example of cutting down on streaming was 3 to 4 hours instead of 6 to 8. Who the fuck even has time to watch that crap? 3 to 4 is already pushing into "you won't have time for any other hobby if you have a job" territory.The only people who like endurance streams are people who throw it on a second monitor for background noise. Or, in other words, people who aren't even watching.
>>111892595lol
>>111893965Since we're talking about "who has time for it", Mori does. Most people work 40 to 60 hours per week. You think Mori doesn't have a single spare moment between making songs to stream for a couple hours? She could do it during her lunch break.
>>111894483Read, nigga.
Mori is a top ten snow bunny for sure
>>111893211Trvthnvke
>>111892595"I make songs for anime"One song for garbage anime, and she thinks she's special now.
>>111894483You think Hololive members have nothing to do outside of streaming, anon?
>>1118953253 anime actually
>>111895343she's done more than that gachiwhatever trash one?
>>111895325>>111895358Patlabor remakeSuicide Squad Gachiakuta
>>111895376Neat, I never even heard the first two.
>>111895393You never heard of patlabor? Are you a kid?
>>111895393>not knowing patlaborkick all gen alpha tourists off this board
>>111895393It really speaks volumes about the state of the userbase when anons are more familiar with Gachiakuta (a shounen about literal trash) than Patlabor (one of the most prominent, classic mech series out there).
>>111895625Most people watch anime seasonally. If it isn't from the past five years, casuals don't watch it and never have.
>>111894483Did you just read what you wrote to yourself or do you like to shitpost?
>>111893448Missed chance for picking the Hololive one this season https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48pc58upFY4
>>111895729I know. Casuals and tourists used to be looked down upon, but now they're the majority of users. Its just sad that 4chan is past its twilight years now, and is slowly slipping into darkness.
>>111892595All people want is semi regular content and to be made aware of when you go on break.
>>111895434>>111895436>>111895625Patlabor the movie (1989)Ok boomer. My father wasn't even born then.
>>111892595Mori forced herself to stream but honestly she’s not very entertaining and she knows this. People that are main consumers of her long streams built a parasocial relationship. I’m sure she recognizes this too. If she doesn’t want to stream long she shouldn’t have to regardless though it’s not like anyone’s necessarily forcing her but herself at this point
It was always going to happen.Her popularity with vtuber enjoyers has finally convinced her she's not a dogshit musician.I don't know or care if her fans will follow her in enough numbers to continue her delusion, but I'm not surprised in the slightest that she's finally started believing her success had anything to do with her music.
>>111895952This. But that’s apparently too much to dare ask for.
>>111896656>Mori forced herself to stream but honestly she’s not very entertaining and she knows thisshe clearly doesn't if she's been doing it for this long. I almost feel for deadbeats, it's hard to be a mori fan when you have no idea when she'll stream because she doesn't schedule anything and when you do catch her stream she sounds like she's half dead and bored herself. Why would anyone want to watch that?
>>111897147holy shit nothing really has changed from debut
>>111892677>>111893087There is a saying in my country "if you want to beat a dog, you will find a stick". The actual reasons never matter, they are just an excuse to complain.
>>111892595I don't give a shit about her music. She ain't Sui-chan.
>>111895625>mech seriespeople don't care about mech series that's not evangelion, gundam or marcross.
As I've insisted for years, we need a union for Holomem and their negotiation should be conducted in public.Vtuber streaming is kind of basic infrastructure today.
I doubt she'll be "speaking up" about anything, especially if she got whatever she demanded already. just an empty reassurance and preemptively stealing credit for any noticeable improvement within the company.
>>111892661no she doesn't
>>111892595>thread is a screenshot of a summary of a stream
>>111899617She is waiting for a response, so she hasn't gotten what she wanted yet, but she'll do it again if she doesn't.
>>111899739Also leaving out her idea of streaming less is 4-5 hours 5 days a week lmao.
>>111895214Good post
>"Mori is good now, guys!">"she's feminized!">turns out she fucking hated streaming all along and wants to spend the least amount of time possible on stream and just wants to record her bad songs for the music company that gave her a contract, hololive is secondary This is why Cover trying to become a music company by pushing music shit doesn't work, the talents will get a big head like mori and suisei and try to abandon them and the duties they're supposed to fulfill, along with abandoning the fans in favor of the mainstream normie audience and ecelebs. Mori Calliope always was, still is and will forever be just another fucking dipshit that accidentally got into hololive. She was gifted the world, still wants to do less but still wants to be given more.
>>111899903Everyone in myth was basically gifted into it. Seriously is it really that hard to fucking stream? Time goes on and on and I keep realizing gamers is still the best gen, okay is the only one I can think of that actually played MegaMan x games, and stars en is okay when they're actually doing a game that is interesting.Also flayon doesn't count for MegaMan games cause he's a fucking retard.
>>111895214Genuinely no idea where you guys get thisShe was openly lusting after sykkuno a while ago and from the few months I followed her I remember her repeatedly talking about her preference for short dudesshe's a white weeb from Texas. she wants yellow weiners or nothing and I thought she was pretty clear about it
>>111895214YOu'll finna know it!
>>111893697Marine turned herself into a character essentially, she's the sexy, desperate pirate hag, and you get that from a clip or two.Mori on the other hand is what exactly? Cringy weeb rappist? There's nothing really to latch on to
>>111901887she's not even really a rappist is the thing. everyone who praises her rap is either a braindead simp or has a vested business interest in EVERYONE agreeing that she's an amazing talentgo check how her shit's been received anywhere outside of vtuber spaces and it's just tiny react channels going apeshit over mid and cricketsso then she's just a weeb who's decent at JRock. oh yeah, nobody ever saw a white girl do that before. Star power!
>>111901953It's literally only this place that hates her
>>111902011Hasn't she gotten shat on by the normalfags, niggers and wiggers everytime her music breaks vtuber containment?
>>111902011I don't even think she's hated /here/, her model is too sexo and EN is starved for actual tomboy contentI'm saying she's got very little musical talent and would never have gotten anywhere without being buoyed by legions of simpsI know because I was one of the six fucks who listened to her PL and I watched her fail to meaningfully improve her rapping this entire timeOf course, talent and success have nothing to do with each other.
>>111893211kek you're only hoping that because you were celebrating like a fool that she was for sure graduating this time fr fr
>>111893211retardmaxxing right here
Just fucking stream and play games with the other holos. Do we really need some corporate bullshit virtue signaling from these people who are already in a really privileged position? At least I'm not interested in your office politics, I just want to watch fun streams were you play a character along with the other holos. That's why also all roommate stuff is an instant turn off for me. Nothing breaks the immersion more than watching holos be cheery and then their roommate doomposting right after
>>111899903She literally said she wants to continue streaming but not for 8 hours a day
>>111902135actually this whole thread is retardmaxxing and is just pure antiposting lmao. kys retards
>>111902090Without fucking fail. They all know what actual anime fans look like, vtuber fans stand out like a sore thumbShit, if you want otaku rap Megan Thee Stallion unironically works for that. Mori has zero audience outside people who would never listen to rap in their lives anyway
>>111902117>>111902135>>111902167it's saturday and you're on /vt/ samefagging. i'm sure she'll fuck you one day. keep it up champ!
Mori's best songs are the ones where she raps the least
This thread falls apart when you realize that Mori probably has the most stream hours in the branch (besides Biboo)
>>111892595>antis still trying to apply the wage cuck argument of "clock in huge x number of hours to have value" that corpos PRs try to spoon feed to excuse terrible pay and working conditions
>>111900031Ok, how u finna know?
>>111895952>>111896740Going to use this copy paste line to excuse everything? Oh no Keala collapsed, should have streamed 60 hours this week and held my hand on twitter.
>>111893087Sure some people will always find an excuse to shit on someobe they don't like. I dislike that any criticism at all gets instantly voided because some schizo will latch onto it, so any discussion about a negative trait or aspect of a vtuber gets blown into the biggest, worst thing ever or bullshit crafting of a boogieman to fight. Sometimes I want to slap Kiara for being a loudmouth dipshit, but I still like the majority of her content. I want to knock some sense into FWMC who've done nothing but make their channel/content infrequent since moving to Japan, but I still have fun with a chunk of it.
Jesus christ mori doesn't belong in vtubing when is she going to piss off
>>111892661realizing this is a foreign concept for vtubers
>>111892595idk what this is about, but if she wants to stream less, she can compensate with more sex content.
>>111892661sometimes people confuse which way the house was built. were the walls and the roofs built first? or were the foundational pillars? what happens if you take away the foundation and the pillars? this is a problem not just for popular vtubers but also for the world in general, the current world politics is divided into people who are confused on where the roots of economy is. is the government the creating the economy or are people creating the economy? the confusion is so deep
