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>Nijisanji's reputation in the west obliterated.
>Fans no longer feel they can trust corporate announcements. Nothing taken at face value anymore.
>Introduced a moralizing element into Vtubing that would pave the way to the age of the Dockey.
>Hololive isolates itself in the walled garden even more completely, rest of scene gradually balkanizes.
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>>111905803
It's hololive's turn to be feather and tarred for being a black company now
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>>111905893
All black companies must be purged with the cleansing fire of public fury. Regardless of their size or prior reputation.
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>>111905803
Vtubing is more than capable of receding back to Asia and not including us anymore. Is that what you want?
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>>111905803
the fall of a once great pasttime, all thanks to one BPD stupid fatass bitch that wanted easy grifterbux
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>>111908153
God please yes
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>>111905803
NijisanjiEN as well as VShojo, did all that themselves by presenting themselves as ethical alternatives to Hololive and pandering to braindead NBinted types, who thought they were trustworthy because they paid lip service to cultural and political fashions. The same people lust for the ruin of Hololive just as they did before the black screen. On the grand scale, it changed little except to instil the belief in dramatards that they can manufacture collapse out of every perceived misstep taken by Cover. But the Selen Shock happened strictly because Nijisanji's response was so bafflingly offensive. The chain of decisions could not have been made without systemic rot and incompetence, from the termination to leaking of confidential legal documents to their streamers to the use of information from those documents as a weapon in the public space in order to push the narrative that the manipulative streamer was hurting the feelings of Nijisanji livers. Comparable situations like the Haachama incident have never prompted similar errors from Cover.

It's a comfort to many to believe that impersonal forces, like Japanese work culture or Western attitudes towards corporations, are behind everything that happens in VTubing culture, because it makes certain desired outcomes inevitable, so long as the right narrative is pushed. Like there's a magic button they can press to unleash a latent disaster just waiting to happen. This is the same thinking as the VShojo guys who were trying to influence the conversation here to their advantage. But the reality is that the errors that destroyed NijiEN were the result of badly considered actions by specific people. Whether surviving alternative corpos like Phase prove capable of avoiding those mistakes and outflanking the competition is up to them. Neither Hololive's pre-eminence nor its legacy in this hobby will ever be guaranteed, but it depends on Hololive to nourish and sustain them. None of the parasites mean anything in the long run.
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>>111905803
>Hololive isolates itself in the walled garden
I dont want drama tubers, political tubers, tranny tubers,

That excludes 99% of the EN vtubers kek
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>>111908644
Dokibird sacrificed all of vtubing for her selfish gain so she can rule over her blackened kingdom of ash in a field of irradiated ruins from the war she triggered, laughing as her multiple chins flab back and forth
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>>111910895
Wow. An intelligent and thought out reply. What a surprising development. Good job anon.
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>>111913216
That's metal as fuck.
All hail the king, I guess.
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>>111910895
>NijisanjiEN as well as VShojo, did all that themselves by presenting themselves as ethical alternatives to Hololive
Show me one piece of official nijiEN marketing that presents them in such a way? Vshojo yes but nijisanjiEN's brand is basically about being yourself
>and pandering to braindead NBinted types, who thought they were trustworthy because they paid lip service to cultural and political fashions.
If you're culturally brainrotted, sure. Cover is seen as an LGBTQ+ heaven by the same people, but you choose to ignore this every time.
>The same people lust for the ruin of Hololive just as they did before the black screen. On the grand scale, it changed little except to instil the belief in dramatards that they can manufacture collapse out of every perceived misstep taken by Cover
You're talking about your former friends cumbuds, saplings, gators and your buddy buddies at phase connect. You know; the groups that along with you gave all the power to dramafags. Not to mention falsejeet worked for vshojo despite claiming otherwise.

Not just that but the same people you're complaining about are your dear friends asmonfag, tectone, mutahar, nuxtaku and their orbiters.

And many times you were told not to give them power in vtubing as they will backstab you and you didn't listen.

So as it turns out the same tools and protocols you deviced and used against nijiEN are now being used against you. So you run this whitewashing revisionism where you pretend everything happened because they dared to stand up against le chud hololive or whatever your delusions are.

Selen and nijiEN management are retarded, and you utilised that window of opportunity to try to decapitate your old rival because you're spiritually a tranny and seeing male vtubers remind you that you are a male yourself.

Even now you refuse to acknowledge yagoo's and cover's greed regarding their treatment of talents after their IPO, something A-chan spelled out for you, something even the most retarded fat troonycorns could grasp and they did and thus turned against cover; fighting for a cause they have already fought before.

Count yourself lucky that asmontranny and co are too busy shilling for israel to pay attention to vtubing anymore or you would've really experiencedthe brunt of the witch hunt that every fan and talent in nijiEN went through.

Now what little grudge you have left to keep you warm at night won't save cover's reputation from your very own brethren.

Ignorant as you may be reality can't be ignored forever since you're now dealing with a monster of your own creation.

And I'll be there to standover your charred corpse.
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>>111916390
Thank you for proving my point.
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>>111916390
>Cover is seen as an LGBTQ+ heaven by the same people
The same people do not consider COVER as LGBTQ+ heaven but rather as incel heaven btw
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>>111908644
>>111913216
njiseeethe
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>>111916390
>Show me one piece of official nijiEN marketing that presents them in such a way? Vshojo yes but nijisanjiEN's brand is basically about being yourself
NTA but this was absolutely the case.
Don't you remember what happened right before NijiEN came out? The taiwan coco fiasco left a HUGE black stain on Holo's rep as a company, with Nijisanji's better relationship with China, etc being seen and advertised as them being a more mature company who knew how to better take care of their talents to the west. NijiEN's "lax" management was taken as an example of that.
>If you're culturally brainrotted, sure. Cover is seen as an LGBTQ+ heaven by the same people, but you choose to ignore this every time.
Not really. HoloEN avoided all of those topics like the plague but NijiEN actively talked about or even encouraged them to a point. Cover didn't start easing restrictions on those topics until relatively recently.

The rest of this post is just weird, tribalistic nonsense. No, Nijisanji(the COMPANY ITSELF who made the decisions, not just the branch) fucked themselves over in the west in such a comically evil way that it broke containment. It became hip to start trashing them because no matter how you dug they only got worse and worse.
NijiEN was ran exactly the same as all of the other Nijisanji branches. (That is being left to rot unless you're literally management plants like LuxNoc or Elira) The only difference is that the western market tends to side with individuals over corporations, which helps a lot when a company attempts an absurd, baseless smear campaign of a well-loved individual.
Stop scapegoating NijiEN. NijiEN collapsed just like all of the other Niji side branches and projects. The common factor in all of those cases is Nijisanji acting like Nijisanji, only the westerners were willing to actually do something about it.
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>>111916390
I'm less concerned about Cover's fate than I am about the wellbeing of indies like Dokibird, Nimi, and Vedal/Neuro. My hope was that the community's participation in the anti-Niji revolt of 2024 would secure a prosperous, more egalitarian future for indies and small corpos. However, while the largest indies have benefited, my hopes for the overall community were not quite realized. So now, as I watch history potentially start to repeat itself with Cover, I feel not joy, but trepidation.
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>>111905803
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>>111905893
You've desperately wanted that to be true for over two years since the black screen stream but it's not happening nijipaggot.
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>>111916390
>Cover is seen as an LGBTQ+ heaven by the same people
nijitrannies are truly the most retarded niggers kek, your company LITERALLY hires trannies and even kuzuha openly stated his support for pozzed shit. nijisanji is the tranny corpo.
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>>111916747
>NijiEN's "lax" management was taken as an example of that.
it's because the nijiJP already has an everything can go agency rep in japland, what they didn't expect was that the westoid is bunch apes who can't follow the rule like the jap and will backstab the company if they have a chance for personal gain, the westoid can't think of the big picture and will want to become independent for maximum profit, spot light and convenience for themselves alone, the westoid streamers are incapable of working together without air out the backstab, clique and drama behind the scene
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>>111908153
you cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube
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>>111905803
EN does not give a fuck about niji, they haven't recovered from the graduation wave in tl extra merch/ad spam
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>>111908153
enjoy ur joke currency
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>>111918986
NijiJP's graduated/terminated members all shit talk anycolor and some of their former coworkers. Niji is a black company ran by and for evil, shitty people.
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>called herself a virgin for 3 fucking years
>would mock people doubting her, even though she was extremely slutty and horny for her male coworkers all the time, and her past was checkered to say the last
>in the Secret GC she's mocking people doubting her virginity
>brings up her virginity 10x per stream, it's 1/2 her personality
>goes on a crusade against "parasocial incels" while emphasizing her virginity every stream
>then in 2025, gets a severe vagina problem
>she had STD's this whole time
>literally the whole time she was hiding this fact
>silently dropped all mentions of virginity, no longer even mentions it anymore
In retrospect all the flirty offcollabs she did with the boys takes on a different tone in light of this.
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>>111918734
Well that was before Mori did her own black screen stream equivalent. Now the shoe is on the other foot and you know how it feels.
I'd wish you good luck, but I really don't.
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>>111919897
>equivalent
Again, you really wish this was the case but it isn't nijicuck. enna has STDs, NijiEN is dead, and nijifes got downsized. niji lost because they're evil.
But I'm sure another 40b yen in dividends will help.
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>>111918986
There hasn't been a single ex-niji from any branch to say positive things about the company.
This includes JP.
The company is an absolute shitshow and ran like a circus.
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>>111919897
>>Well that was before Mori did her own black screen stream equivalent.
You really don't understand what the black stream was or why it caused so much outrage.
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Meanwhile, in Hololive :
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>>111922120
I think Hungary won? Nice shit taste Israel pandering cunt
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>>111922762
Bulgaria won and Israel was second
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>>111919042
u can it just wont have the stripes anymore
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>>111905803
grim



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