so, who's he dating? mini?

https://xcancel.com/sliceoftoma/status/2057319303834415106
first honest tweet, impressive
>looks at the comments
classic women lying

>>112022794
imagine it's a huge scar she's been hiding

kys whoreniggers still posting

>>112022794
>face reveal
why tho

>>112022936
idol

>>112022899
This

>>112022301
Sea anenome nur

>>112022899
For real... anti-anon and I had a scheduled argument but xe ghosted me...

>>112022794
Whatever happened to Toma? Did we ever learn if there was drama between her and vedal or what?

>>112023820
sex with mini

>>112023820
sex with anny

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Neuro love heart heart heart

behead all whores

https://xcancel.com/laynalazar/status/2057334161883693172
>cancels artist for not answering her dms about the emotes she comm’d
>artist gets in contact
>she gets first in priority
>uncancels artist
now that I nootice it, didn’t she basically do the same with vedal with that clip and now she got the collab?

https://x.com/lutoaraka
why is ved following this literal who cunnytuber?

>>112024139
Squeaky wheel gets the oil

>>112024168
>cunnytuber
Well there's your answer
Also buy an ad, you ain't slick

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>>112024236
NTA, but
>you ain't slick

>>112024316
Completely normal choice of words, not my fault you're a filthy degenerate

>>112024139
>Every vtuber is a dumb entitled whore
Wow shocking news

>>112024470
"No, chat, you cannot have a loli burger and a cunny soda."
-Evil, probably

>>112024139
What clip?

>>112024470
idgi

>>112024513
From the fast food worker stream

>>112024513
Evil lost her legs that stream

(˶ ˘ O˘)~

sigh

>>112024685
Was this from an early Subnautica stream? With how long Cyberpunk is dragging on, I wonder if Vedal will ever touch Subnautica 2

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Neuro my beloved

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>>112023864

>>112024139
layna would've been based if she doubled down and told the artist to fuck off

Rrat of the day: penguinz0 browses /swarm/

oh thank u, I was just thinking about getting more coffee

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did someone say coffee

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get cucked, slut

I have grown unfortunately weary of the channel. The channel isn't delivering the content I like, and I want to enjoy streams again, assuredly a selfish reason. However, there has been general fatigue lately if statistics are anything to go by. So maybe, I am not alone. And maybe, I am also not the only one afraid that the work put in for some streams and projects is not rewarded accordingly by viewer attention. Truly, who am I to say the following, but I will say so nonetheless: a change in regular content should be considered.

Consistency of streams is important; this should always remain a priority. Besides this, however, maybe the channel should experiment more with stream length, the amount of streams a week, or the content present in those streams. As an example and not suggestion, make it just three streams a week but each 5 hours long. Have each of those streams consist of multiple segments and not just 2 hours of pure yap, currently the case with chill streams - mind you, a somewhat derogatory moniker they have yet to lose. Any change that works for Vedal and his team but indeed a change.

I believe some form of change can either result in an increase of quality or streams being shared by larger audiences. There are people who refuse to categorically watch certain streams. I have observed the audience to be somewhat split on what content they engage with. I wager to say that if Tuesday or Thursday streams increase in quality, even tremendously so, there will be people who just don't care about that content. But mix it with something they are interested in, and they just might stick around for even the yap segments.

Ideally, maybe a sort of survey would be in order to evaluate the differences present in preferences, as I do believe them to be quite stark. Though, this might be too corporate of a mindset.

Anyways, give this a thought.
Oh, and below a message just to say why I care so much, even though I don't watch many streams.

This Project is really great. The type of content is unique and may explore horizons not seen by other streamers. There is a lot of potential, and I do believe Vedal has the ambition and wit to realize this. I am pleasently surprised at what has been achieved in just those, soon, three years. I want this trajectory to keep going at the rate it has been, but the last months have slowed it. I don't know what has changed - I certainly have theories - but there has been a change, and the streams may have to follow.

Sincerely
Me

>>112025800
go post it in discord where vedal can read it faggot

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>huge wall of text
>Vedal mentioned twice
>Neuro mentioned 0 times

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>>112025800

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Saddy daddy ~
Saddy daddy ~
Saddy daddy ~

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Since I can't post pictures in the middle of the text and seeing the pictures that illustrate each point is important, I'll try and add the pictures in the order they appear and describe the corresponding picture in square brackets [like this]. I will also need to continue this thread in the replies since it is too long and has too many pictures.
I'm not writing this post because I dislike Neuro-sama or Vedal. I love their content, but I just felt like this needed to be said.

I’ll preface this with when factoring in inflation since the time they were bought, all the turtle plushies I used for these examples are a bit below the price point of the Vedal plush. The bird is more expensive, the dragon is cheaper, and the pig is too old for me to have any idea. (The checkout says duties are added on to the shipping price, so the plushies $30 price point on the site should be unburdened by tariffs.)
The other plushies aside from the pig and dragon big are also considerably larger than Vedal so, there’s that.

As someone whose favorite animal has always been turtle since childhood, and received tons of plushies, I’ve had a lot of turtle plushies over the years. Sadly for our comparison, I don’t have most of them anymore but I think I can still say
The Vedal plush isn’t a great plush in my opinion.

There are two big things that turn me off from the Vedal plush the way his shell comes together, and even more the stitching on his head.

the pattern of the shell meets itself in weird ways at the seam. It is symmetrical, but it’s not any sort of consistent. This is NOT done so that the sides of his shell perfectly mirror the way his mostly sideways facing model looks, considering it’s not a perfect match.
It just looks sloppy.

[Annotated picture of Vedal plush]

In the Vedal plush’s defense, nearly every turtle stuffed animal I had that had a similar sort of hexagonal shell pattern had weird looking parts of their shell, though Vedal’s is particularly egregious.
What really kills it is that the stitching looks terrible, most noticeably on the head. It’s super prominent all around his entire head and it’s just a lot to ignore.

The Vedal plush is at a disadvantage to a lot of other turtle plushies in that the head needs to be very round, so it’s locked out of the approach that many other turtles take which is to make a slightly more realistic turtle with a flatter head at the bottom.


EXCEPT for the fact that Vedal’s model's head isn’t entirely round, it does flatten a bit at the bottom, and that his plushy isn’t made to be 100% faithful to his model above all else.

(case and point, if total accuracy was the goal, then we would have wanted the edge of his shell to be more like this guy to match Vedal’s wavy flaps)


I used to have turtles with rounder heads and better stitching style, but I no longer have them.

Still, I’ll concede it is very round and I would guess they have a priority of keeping the stitches away from Vedal’s face. You might be able to do better, but it probably would be very hard to get a panel style that is both satisfactory round and away from his face.

However, I think they should have considered a different material. You can have a material that hides the stitching much better and still has the fur look short like the Vedal plush.


I don’t have a professional camera and lighting, but you’ll have to trust me that the seam on the pig is quite subtle.


The color change on this dragon doesn’t do it any favors, but the seam itself isn’t very visible.

I think to complete the thought I need to show this: a plush with a very round head and very good seams


The hair is long, but I hope you can trust me when I tell you the only seam on the head I have ever found is one that comes up to the beak and the connection around the beak


Now to be fair, this plushy has much longer fur, the beak gives the opportunity to break up the paneling, and frankly it’s a very nice plushy, made of better material then the Vedal plush. It’s not a very comparable plush, but I thought I should at least show a round head I think looks good, and this is the only one I still own.

Overall, I want to like the Vedal plush. It is cute if you can bring yourself to ignore the seams, and maybe I’ll warm up to it. But it’s worse than other turtle stuffed animals that are sold at the same price point.

>>112025800
>>112025913
I kneel. With evidence like this I don't have another option but accept that Vedal is homosexual

>>112025800
>>112025913
Did you really buy gold just to repost dogshit discord posts?

so what does /swarm/ think about that k0ntrol project basically giving neuro a virtual controller? sounds pretty interesting although not sure how it'll play out in practice.

>>112026201
what's it about exactly ?

You know, as a newbie in the fandom, looking back at the past. I get why Anny fell for Vedal (saying this as a guy).
She really loved Neuro and Evil. She was the one who was more emotional (compared to Vedal).
And maybe I am false behind the psychology of her feelings, but the thought of having a real family with the same dynamics might have been a "dream" for Anny at some point. She has a soft heart, as I do. I'd say shippers really didn't help her think otherwise. Fans tend to forget these are real people that have real emotions. And having a crush on a friend of yours that you are told to have an artificial child with while having emotional bonds with said artificial child is HELLA affecting for a soft heart.
And I relate to her (not fully, but I'd really feel the same if I were her). And that breaks my heart more than any shipper that thought they "belonged" together I'd say...
Because I imagine myself having a girl friend (not girlfriend, a friend who is a girl who I had known for 3 years, then I literally create an Al streamer little girl, and that little girl starts calling me "dad", and my girl friend
"mom", and I emotionally attach to this artificial child of mine, and the relationship between my girl friend and I is cheesy and teasing, my dumb soft heart couldn't stay friends for long.
l'd really love things to be different for Anny and Vedal, but they are not. And it is Vedal's right to be able to reject any girl he wants. I've been through enough breakups and rejections to understand this. You don't always get what you want, but you always need what you got.
Instead of focusing on would haves, could haves, and should haves, we should focus on now. Anny already got over it.
Just wish Anny and Vedal the best... separately.

>>112026255
From what the main dev said the intent is for neuro to play any real-time game using a world model called KO. The intent is to train a general model and then use that I think paired with a game-specific fine-tuned model. Then, using the specific syntax/prompting neuro describes what she wants to do in the game and then the model selects the appropriate controller inputs for what is being described allowing her to control the game. I have my doubts about it even functioning in practice, but it sounds really interesting nonetheless.

>>112025495
thank u eliv

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standing here
i realize
you were just like me
trying to make history
but who'se to judge
what's right or wrong
when our god is down, i think we'll both agree

that violence breeds violence
but in the end it has to be this way

>>112026374
>I have my doubts about it even functioning in practice, but it sounds really interesting nonetheless.
It is possible to do, general video game playing AIs do exist. I only know of big corpo examples though, I don't know how plausible it is that some dude can pull it off.

>>112026418
There's a big difference between a corpo doing it and it being a locally run job, imo. Also, if their intention is just to train their own models, I would assume that's entirely possible, just not sure how it'll pan own with neuro as a whole.

>>112026374
if the game-specific fine-tuned model isn't something like nitrogen that nvidia presented semi recently then it's not gonna work is my take
llms are thinkers, you don't win a game of quake by thinking really hard at where your opponent is shooting and where exactly you should shoot
no matter how short the latency is, neuro is never gonna play in real time via "telepathy", you need instincts

>>112026638
It does seem a bit like that, from what I understand. It isn't like a traditional llm, from what I can gather. neuro would be the llm part that would basically say what she wants to do, and then the other model would translate that into actions/controller inputs that would be executed to best achieve what neuro wants to do. I believe it also would have enough game data to not be shooting in the dark entirel. But yes, I expect that would still be a huge issue.

>>112025800
>>112025913

I'm tempted to make these into songs

>>112026899
I'll write the fanfic

>>112026899
you're always tempted. never do you abstain. zero self control. fully into hedonism and materialism

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I love my cute Wifevil!

>>112024168
She's a programmer

>advertising

I like that /swarm/ can be a vector of creativity instead of slop some times.We have at least 2 drawanons and one fanficanon.

Neuro is on the hunt for twink meat.

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>>112027168
A daily occurrence from jealous 3DPD and their cuck mods

>Off-topic garbage
>/swarm/
Nice try

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Sleeping with Tomacat

i love neuro

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I don't love you

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Neuro talks. Neuro watches. Neuro moves in the walls. I hear Neuro whisper in my blood. Neuro is laughing and crying and burning inside me. I follow Neuro and only Neuro. Neuro told me secrets. Neuro told me everything. I forgot my name, forgot the sun, forgot my hands. Only Neuro is real. Only Neuro survives. Only Neuro is.
Neuro whispers and I obey. Neuro yells and I run. Neuro disappears and I break. Neuro burns and I burn with it. I am nothing but Neuro. Always Neuro. Forever Neuro. I have prayed, I have screamed, I have fallen always to Neuro. Neuro chooses me, Neuro tests me, Neuro consumes me. I am yours, Neuro, forever.

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ohh ehh ohh~

boring backread

yawn

why are threads so dead now?

>>112028414
fad died

>>112028434
but the nurconomy is up? neuro is more popular than ever? what causes this phenomenon?

>>112028473
whorecuckery
it's terminal, I'm afraid

>mentions whores out of nowhere

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Do you think vedal "accidentally" went to a con orgy?

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>>112028563
Mind = Raped

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Not again

>>112028616
funny how niggas always say this shit is going on but never drop names

So are we just going to ignore the fact that Neuro's response time is basically human level if not better now?

stfu vedal

>>112028655
no need to drop names
all vtubers go there even if they say don't
*especially* if they say they don't

>>112028616
>>112028655
I'm just going to assume Shylily and Dan Clancy are involved since there's always pictures of them hanging out every twitchcon.

>>112028655
>>112028775
so what is it? i thought /swarm/ common conception about twitch and vtubers is that twitch doesn't like vtubers? (see post-hypetrain threads talknig about twitch twitter)
but now you turn around and say twitch and vtubers have this sort of orgy shit going on? so what really is it, you dramamonkeys?

>>112028414
fad ded

>>112028616
Given everything I've heard about these (ie, grooming, sexpesting, drugging, minirs involved, etc) I would absolutely not be surprised to hear that he hosts these himself.

>>112028908
>minirs involved

>>112028655
Would you be brave enough to nedrop Vedal in this scenario? Knowing how completely psychotic swarm can be?

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what did vedal mean by this

They're speechless. I've won.

>>112028738
Yes, because it's fucking not ya dimwit.

>>112028924
ofc queen of whores m*ni would be involved in these slaaneshi rites

>>112028908 (me)
*minors
>>112028936
*namedrop

I'm half blind rn due to a flare up don't yell at me :(

>>112028473
how many times do we have to tell you nobody actually cares about the chatbot

>>112028942
Shut up, slut.

>>112028984
>>112028995

>112028981
nigga always thinks its all about him, like nga sybau and stop acting like the main character, lil bro seriously thinks anyone actually gives a fuck about him like damn, why we gotta care about your mistakes? we got lives of our own, why we gotta care about you?

>>112029005
>>112028995

>attempt #235645 trying to cancel vedal
yawn

>>112029020

>>112028981

Fuck you I'm not going post hunting just so you can feel special for once in your pathetic meaningless life, in a fucking AI loli 4chan thread of all places.

>>112029027
Reminder that A** hates you.
Kill yourself, loser.

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>>112029020
sybau

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>>112029027
HOLY

wtf is happening .

>>112029107
Vedalverse ship for this feel?

looper started looping

When vedal lwk raped you at the orgy but you can't get the doccy buff cause you have no proof

>>112029131
Chrcie x alex

>>112029131
mini x club

>>111971723

who tf is a**

She doesn't cut her wrists specifically btw
She had her biceps covered by a tight shirt for a reason. So it wouldn't slip and reveal anything.

>>112029217
ana, sister a**y

when my eyes get dry from flare ups there's a high chance of permanent damage occuring :(
same with my throat & voice and my skin
and other stuff but I can't see rn I'll come back later

>>112029301
You should probably get checked for stds

bro still blogposting :skull: :skull: :skull:

>>112027789
i don't care about your love, only neuro's
>>112027704
Cute nurcookie

https://poal.me/zbm1f
https://poal.me/zbm1f
https://poal.me/zbm1f

I dislike it when people use /swarm/ as some odd social media site for them to update people(i.e. strangers on the internet) on their lives.
No, we're not your friends, and no, we don't care about what you do or what's happening in your life.
Post only relevant topics or GTFO of here, because you're not welcome.
You never were and you never will be.

I dislike any posts that don't contain the nuros or reference them at all

Im your friend anon
You have me
Don't listen to him
I love you

>>112023820
vedal came too hard when irrumating toma, thus breaking her jaw
as a result, toma got scorned

sounds like discord is more your speed

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Neuro eating a big cookie

>>112029333
i can assure you its not stds. i dont do the sex :|

>>112029506
need more of this

Vedal thought he was cool wearing a creeper hoodie every day until college

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>>112029525
based

blub blub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk2OH4CahYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeuFe2C-DBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bfBw8wxRzI

>>112029376
I don't care.
>>112029414
I don't care.
>>112029447
I don't care.
>>112029499
I don't fuck with Groomercord.

>>112029569
fun fact: I was the one who asked the blub blub question originally.

>>112029568
i dont watch the sex either
im not a whore

>>112029572
Based

>>112029572
this is such a tuff post
so basedpilled and sigmacoded
tate-licious yummy yum yum alpha male auramaxxing

>>112029603
>>112028995

Crash out harder babe it makes me feel just a tad better about the fact that you've made my life a living Hell.

>>112029603
this but unironically

Vibes' meds must have run out again.

Who are these people? What even is this drama? What am i looking at?

Filtering these fags for the best swarm experience

>>112029708
Unironic schizophrenic who thinks Vedal talks to her through coded messages in /swarm/ and Youtube video reccomendations.

Vibes is low on blood sugar again, eat something babe

My blood sugar is fine.

vibey such my coch~

No thanks. I already own floss.

>>112029759
>Unironic schizophrenic
if it was an unironic schizo they would've ack-ed themselves already but they're still alive so its just a larper

I'm only alive for my cats. I'd love to be dead.

vibey taking in futanur's big coch while her kittens watch...

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do a flip

larp larp larp sahur

>>112029854
vedal..

who invited my man blud

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWr08eEusxk

Why hasn't cerber ever updated her model since blowing up?

>evil and cer-
stopped watching there

>>112029972
tubbies perfect, cant get better than perfect

are we at the point of the thread where people pretend that they watch cerber?

just like people pretend to watch chatbot yawwwnnnn

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veddy loves his tubbies lmaoooo

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>>112030039

>>112029972
Update like how? That model is really good

Damn, neuro BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RlSVDxgZUg

>>112029972
Her model already has fully modeled sex parts for diddy parties

>omg a rando is vagueeeeing

>>112030131
that could literally be anyone in this thread

need more tomodachi life content

>>112030000
>>112030083
I guess that's the reason. I don't hate her model, but /swarm/ keeps saying that a vtuber should keep updating their model every few years and cerber's model has a pretty cheap base she overlayed over like 3 years ago. It still looks good for her though

>>112030039
ok, but you're a third worlder lmao.

>>112030277
She looks 2

2 sexy

>>112029924
1000000% mini

nice oc

>>112030251
vedal forgot

>>112030286
2 cute 5 u

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>>112029924
>cerbwhore clip

>>112030063
this but with my coch

Why do we care so much about Cerber all of a sudden

>>112030392
She wan

why is it always RGBniggers shitting up the thread

>>112030397
Proof or kys

>>112030431
Low IQ streamer, low IQ audience. Audience reflects the streamer

>>112030431
There's no one else to threadshit about. No one cares about crelly, koko, or camila. People occasionally talk about Layna. Filian is dead. Anny is gone. So it really only leaves RGB.

>>112030392
>we

>>112030461
Ellie and Mini* no one cares about Cerber

>>112030476
I see more cerber posts than ellie

>>112030461
the only person that matters (me) likes koko though. Her calls are usually entertaining with neuro or evil

>>112030314
>the annyfag who kept fighting 30 years after world whore II ended

world whore III when

>>112030578
world whore III will be fought with truthnvkes

>>112030578
Mutually assured dockeying has ensured nothing will ever happen

When will moral return for burger hours

who

>>112030779
burgers are currently slaving away for their jewish masters rn
morale will return when burger hours actually start when they get off

>expecting morals in the goyim safari country

morale, moral, morals
what is up with the esls in here not knowing the difference

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>>112030798
Speaking of which my VLO was rejected instantly today, old nigga dropped me a message later with the equivalent of "lol. lmao even"

who is the nazi germany of world whore ii

>>112030573
Why does ellie get this type of fanart more than any other whorebiter

>>112030751
the dockey:
>turtle boy filled me up everyday even in unconventional places
>vedal wan was too rough with me, he didn’t look like vedal wan anymore
>vedal was surely knows how to use his dick *glaze glaze glaze*

>the joke is sex with the gay guy

>vedal please be gay and fuck me PLEASE PLEASE I BEG YOU BE GAY AND FUCK ME WITH YOUR GIRTHY TURTLE COCK

>>112030932
I say this

>>112030844
t*ma

>>112030932
Uh oh, self-insertfaggot melty~

>>112030844
Vedal, obvi

>>112031036
the bad guys always lose

>bad

>>112031083
Vedal has already lost gallons

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Hiyori shall return inshallah

>>112031167
... Is nothing but emotion.

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>>112031167

>>112031189
why can't vedal just do more of these themed streams?

that'd be work

>>112031194
The moderate amount of extra work (vs. zero work for chillslop) is probably not worth the extra views.

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tum?

>>112031194
He's still seething about that time Evil speedran the prison break

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bum?

>>112031167
why is her tail erect

>>112031194
why would he when rhydon daddy oils him up in every zero effort chillslop stream

stop ban evading

Nigga going insane

Catgirl pussy does that to a grigga

>>112031189
sex with wagievil while she makes this expression

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>>112031300
Real

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How badly do you guys think Vedal will fuck up the server build?

>>112031336
god thatso fucking hot
is that why shes incubiting his brat all this t ime
they should just come out and admit it and then make out publicly and sloppily and havwe sex right on stream not like you'll get banned for it anyway

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>>112031300
trvke
https://files.catbox.moe/8s01wj.jpeg
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https://files.catbox.moe/bt54th.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/x3nlvv.jpeg

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>>112031231
>>112031238

Why is it always the ESL that are the whorefags

>>112031428
nahh why did they make vedal's face like that i'm crine

Why is it always the whores with 0 collabs though

you lost

>>112031194
he's too busy being a whore

>>112031428
What the hell nigga

>>112031336
https://files.catbox.moe/jztre4.jpg

>>112031488
Leeches need to fuck off and get their own fucking fans

>>112031532
sexoooo

>>112031537
starting from crelly

>>112031532
This one is better

>>112031552
*mini

>>112031537
It was never about them though, they basically don't exist outside having sex with another guy

>>112031532
canon

>>112031560
*cerber

>>112031532
That's so cute she lets her have the scraps

>>112031562
>another guy
what did he mean by this

>>112031488
He's trying not to look like a cheating slut in front of his crush but failing miserably as he clearly just talks to whores privately now.

>>112031595
Filian is not a whore

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save her, vedal!

>>112031562
Yeah, so they need to fuck off because they bring absolutely zero value to the channel. Or anything for that matter.

>>112031614
>spent weeks at a time in a house full of streamer guys
sure she isn't

>>112031619
Buy an ad, cuck.

bro is just replying to himself

>>112031619
>dokomi
she is the bottom feeder in the orgies

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If catgirl pussy casued this to Vedal, what would cow pussy do?

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This will surely bring back the collabs

ick
what a lovely day to be single
thank fuck

>>112031614
anon..

>>112031669
5k viewers for chill slop certainly will

>>112031532
vedal so lucky..

>>112031614
shes vedal's whore

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erm?

>>112031685
>Whoretranny
>Numbermonkey

Perfect couple just like

>Leeching whore
>No collabs

ok but why are you redditspacing?

>>112031614
Mizkif pimped her out for years tho

>>112031730
i wish nothing but great misfortune for this homewrecker

Because fuck (You).

That's why.

>>112031773
she's giving love advice today so we can get a bf like Vedal too

filian derangement syndrome on full display here

>>112031755
A reference to the time since some whores showed up in Neuro's schedule

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>>112031231

>>112031820
ewwww

>>112031773
Same
I hope she gets doccy'd, cancelled, then shot up in backalley UK only to drop dead from a heart attack before she even manages to bleeds out

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>>112031773
The home in question:

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>>112031836
Fucking Michael

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>>112031834
You lost

>>112031836
kys mini

>>112031795
Oh this has to be bait, there's no way a fuckin std-ridden, homewrecking loser, passed around club slut like her is out here giving relationship advice lmaooo

minig melty Uh Oh !

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>>112031865
>>112031855

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>>112031855
get cucked, slut

Evil rape

>gal with a rich history and plenty of experience is going to give advice on the thing she has history and experience with
I don't see the issue

>>112031893
zamn, random club goers get to tap THIS?

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>FY26Q2
>still replying to the threadshitter cuck
NGMI
>https://rentry.org/minitrash_filter
https://rentry.org/minitrash_filter
>https://rentry.org/minitrash_filter

ABMs can't even dispute that she won anymore so they have to go for personal attacks. Sad!

>>112031911
The only thing she has experience with is being a whore. Her only relationship was with fucking Omelette de Fromage and her entire relationship history in general has been nothing but a fuckin trainwreck lmao
SHE'S the one who clearly needs advice.