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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://vtubertracker.info/en
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vstats.jp/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/
>https://holo-tracker.vercel.app/
>https://www.holostats.com/
>https://charts.vtaac.workers.dev/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com
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Grems will look at this and say
>CUTE
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That's not Gigi
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That is Gigi
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I fucking hate Ark
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>>114492459
selencuck is so brown that he's sweating filth
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Watching Biboo RE vods that i misses. What is that girls obsession with balls? Actually ridiculous how much she talks about them..
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https://youtu.be/hU_Luteyejk
500K DORYA!
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>>114492460
t.hologta tourist
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>>114492484
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>>114492498
Hahaha flopped
Rat whore lost again
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>>114492406
CUTE
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so we’re just making up homo and holo interactions that never happened before
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>>114492533
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>>114492577
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>>114492577
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>>114492483
freud was right
women have penis envy
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>>114492640
LMAO
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The effect of the youtube update, there's 9k difference between the two stream
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https://youtu.be/sInzemf-tX0?si=0JzKWjhf8PoidXDd
https://youtu.be/sInzemf-tX0?si=0JzKWjhf8PoidXDd
https://youtu.be/sInzemf-tX0?si=0JzKWjhf8PoidXDd
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https://x.com/i5xQYa8jLiaU/status/2094306423459270845
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>>114492714
Stop Mocorolling, Mococo!
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>>114492725
They can’t touch him
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>>114492725
pretty sure that account is a /here/fag LARPing as japanese, like unicornkyokai
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>>114492725
>>114492779
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>>114492406
Cute
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>watched that one "philippines mentioned" nimi clip because curiosity got the best of me
>most of the clip has nothing to do witb philippines and it only got mentioned near the end
>sudden octavio jumpscare before the video ends
and they never answered the question that prompted the mention anyway. why the fuck do people clip like this?
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>>114492786
donie can stay
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>>114492406
More like Grems will look at this and say
>I NEED A SEX CHANGE
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>>114492786
People Ice catched
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Phasecucks would never

https://x.com/hijeffdesu/status/2094310639577751669
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why is ryona saying 'nya' after everything
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did we talk about the GOAT coming back after a full year of nothing?
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we are watching this
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Holo cosplay (R-18) are dead...
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>>114492811
>catched
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is that a penis
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your oshi is a whore because she lacks the resolve
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>>114492894
that was for minors only
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>>114492905
I'll save her
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>>114492922
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>114492905
idc, i need my monthly post
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>>114492894
Holo cosplay as a whole took a dive in 2025/2026. The burst of popularity that Maribako, Bibideba and loli UI (not Holo but adjacent) had in 2024 caused a surge but there was no equivalent phenomenon in recent years so for the most it is fans that are cosplaying Holos, the "opportunistic" cosplayers aren't doing it any longer.
And even amongst the fans, the pro ones (like Hane) reverted to gacha / anime cosplay because general interest for vtuber cosplay clearly went down
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>>114492905
doesn't she have a brother? family line will be fine
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>>114492851
Who?
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>>114492886
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>>114492500
KEKAROOOOOO
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>>114492815
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hakosbaelz_birthday_2026
1 limited set = $85
1 regular set = $85
20 plush keychains = 20 x $25 = $500

> Total: $670
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>>114493003
the CEO of sex
https://x.com/Chyraliss
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>>114492965
>even amongst the fans, the pro ones (like Hane)
lmao
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>>114492714
BAUSED
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>>114493045
Hane is a fan and Hane is a pro.
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>>114493063
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>>114493063
>Hane is a fan
lol
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Holy shit taste

https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/2094376243508461600
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>>114492965
I'm waiting for the real pro, Pan Piano, to return to Hololive cosplays
She already gave up on the piano part
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>>114493085
lol what the fuck is wrong with her?
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>>114492716
anon math was prolly not your best subject
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Garmin send my dick to Kiara
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>>114493102
I'm talking about the CCV
59k for the birthday
50k for the anniversary
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>>114492894
noel and matsuri do that
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>>114493085
what do you expect from Kiara
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GRIM GRIM GRIM
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>>114493085
she has to be ragebaiting it's not possible
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>>114493119
>95
HOLY SHIT hahahaha
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>>114493135
It's Phase JP, there's no corpo buff for that branch at all.
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>>114493135
atleast we know she likes streaming as that is not her main job
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AI generated thread
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holy floppa
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>>114493168
the Phasecuckold is angry anon, his Phase whores have pathetic ccv lmaooo
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>>114493085
Ironman 1, 2, and 3 were all pretty good, especially compared to all the slop that came after it.
There's simply no way Kiara makes it all the way to Doomsday.
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Let's save Dubai they said
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>>114493103
Tavi also watching ironman
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So is she playing Big Walk with the other EN like the previous one? Or is it with ID/homos
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>>114493188
>Reddit spacing
>Kiara seethe
It's selencuck
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>>114493093
It's the lure for every even moderately attractive woman
>1000 bucks to do something remarkable or 100000 bucks to take their clothes off
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>>114493200
He is watching it with kiara.
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kiara lost
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>>114493217
What about nerissa?
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>>114493200
Holy redflag, I guess he's next in the graduation queue after Altare and Bettel
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>>114493213
ngl if I was a hot woman I would do the same
It's easy money and you don't even need to show your tits or face
Might as well cash in while you're young
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>>114493204
The cock carousel Pipkin
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>>114493234
You can sell feetpics
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>>114493200
you actually refer to him as tavi?
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Hm what happened? the saviorfag unsubscribed?
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>>114493276
Like every Holoanti/Starmin
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>>114493209
What do you think?
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>>114492886
and this
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Damn Kaela must have signed like 5000 sets or something haha she's too kind
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>>114493315
She probably sells more than the average homo, I don't know, who are you trying to make fun of, Starcuck
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Who's the most self-centered holo?
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>>114493285
they've recognized subbing to a homo is actually pretty gay
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>>114493348
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>>114493348
They're no longer in holo
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>>114493362
BAUSED
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>>114493348
Halos tryhard Baelz
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>>114493348
They'd never let you know, it wouldn't play well to their audience.
>>114493364
Suisei isn't a Holo.
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>>114492851
My god
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>>114493329
her sells numbers are there among EN and top of ID or atleast was
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>>114493348
Gura and Suisei, at least before they left.
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>>114493312
this one broke 40k
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>>114493379
>Suisei isn't a Holo.
Keep throwing shit at that wall phasecuck
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>>114493197
they tried nothing and couldn't save them
they'll probably remember the likes though
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>>114493420
He can barely read English, what makes you think he can understand Japanese?
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>>114493415
Wish the Stellive girls could stream on YT but good for Tabi and Huya. Theres a day 2 tomorrow for their outfit reveals as well.
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>>114493348
Suisei or Pekora. Which is fine. To be successful this type of trait is common.
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bae knows her viewers are men
https://youtu.be/ABF0LERPL-U?t=79
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>>114493420
This is wikipedia, so it's only as good as its sources, but it does seem to be separate.
https://nerd-creation.com/
>Studio Stellar (stylized as Studio STELLAR) is the personal management company of Hoshimachi Suisei.
>The agency is a joint venture between Cover Corp and NERD Inc, a 3rd-party management company.
>Studio Stellar is not a subsidiary of Cover Corp or Hololive Production but an independent company that shared the ownership of the Hoshimachi Suisei's IP with Cover.
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>>114493200
Kiara bros...
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Chihaya still getting puyotetris buff
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Did saba ever post her update?
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>>114493507
she is so obnoxius that she is safe from having bf, totally unicorn friendly
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>>114493234
Anon most hot women make Jack and Shit from adult content Pan Piano would be in the top 1-0.1% and that graph is like stream viewership where like 90% of streamers are under 10 views.
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>>114493518
Will you ever shut up about her
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>>114493221
Kiara always loses
Busted whore
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>>114493529
Genuine question. Don’t watch or follow her. Knew she disabled memberships
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https://archiveofourown.org/works/91655311
https://archiveofourown.org/works/91655311
https://archiveofourown.org/works/91655311
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>>114493445
im going to try to catch them all
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NIJI 100K GOLD DORRRYAAAAA
With this stream, Nijisanji will have more 100k+ stream than hololive in 2026
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Board PPM status?
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>>114493312
bitch could not wait to take off her clothes before showing everything
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>>114493577
Hopefully
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>>114493582
lifeguard i guess
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>suisei in chihaya stream
>suisei complaining that a certain rabbit ruined all her effort coaching tetris
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Kiara should do tetris totsu.
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https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/2094376243508461600
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>>114493336
CUM DICK BALLS FUNNY xD
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>>114493665
Gigi humor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZOSaPAIWYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZOSaPAIWYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZOSaPAIWYc
GET THE FUCK IN HERE
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>Mori
>Irys
>Bae
know what all three have in common? they make my dih hard
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C-c-c-chad cast
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why can't mori be normal;?
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The Mori clique...
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>>114493715
Girls are cutest when they are autistic
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>>114493643
Kiara should graduate
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>>114493657
Iron Man 3 is certainly better than people give it credit for, but a 10/10 is too much.
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>>114493755
Ironman 3 is best if you have no preconceptions if who the ten rings is and think Osama bin Laden but a conman is a neat twist
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>>114493742
>Mori
>cute
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>>114493771
>phasecuck post
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>IRyS is molesting them already
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>>114493657
Okay this is too far, she's losing me
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>>114493580
>With this stream, Nijisanji will have more 100k+ stream than hololive in 2026
LMAO; not really. This one pushes Nijisanji to 20 this year, but Hololive has 22 so Niji has a LOT of ground to make up.

Here is the list before this one

Nijisanji
>217375 :: 2026-08-11 :: にじさんじ甲子園2026 本戦 Day3【 #にじ甲2026_Day3 】 :: Nijisanji :: zc5pZOzDta0
>213231 :: 2026-07-04 :: にじさんじ甲子園2026 ドラフト会議【 #にじ甲2026 】 :: Nijisanji :: DV-50xBI3pU
>184543 :: 2026-05-28 :: 【集大成】ろふまお塾 感謝の3D生配信!過去最長ロケも! :: ROF-MAO :: b6gZjjv_7FY
>184247 :: 2026-08-08 :: にじさんじ甲子園2026 本戦 Day1【 #にじ甲2026_Day1 】 :: Nijisanji :: cDRzcx6PSto
>180292 :: 2026-08-09 :: にじさんじ甲子園2026 本戦 Day2【 #にじ甲2026_Day2 】 :: Nijisanji :: C_-x2UnAY-A
>163767 :: 2026-06-12 :: 【#酒寄颯馬3D】お待たせしました、酒寄颯馬3Dです。【酒寄颯馬/にじさんじ】 :: Sakayori Soma :: -2_tok2rb-0
>158104 :: 2026-03-20 :: 【#るんちょま3D】お人間さん、ちょま3Dになっちゃいました【ルンルン/にじさんじ】 :: Lunlun :: HlIyOX7I8sU
>147867 :: 2026-06-05 :: 【#渚トラウト3D 】Ciao!俺の本気、見ていってよ。【渚トラウト/にじさんじ】 :: Nagisa Trout :: e7ArKRSvv4E
>133214 :: 2026-02-01 :: 8th Anniversary にじさんじ大感謝祭 第2部【#にじさんじ8周年】 :: Nijisanji :: okqMVj-qBYc
>130951 :: 2026-05-29 :: 【 #七瀬すず菜3D 】いらっしゃいませ!3Dお披露目オープンです【七瀬すず菜/にじさんじ】 :: Nanase Suzuna :: 6h8ckPdIyhQ
>127551 :: 2026-06-19 :: 【#早乙女ベリー3D 】あなたに元気と笑顔のトッピング!!【早乙女ベリー/にじさんじ】 :: Saotome Berry :: ITP6bgyhhUM
>123096 :: 2026-06-26 :: #きらにぱ3D ひよっこ3Dお披露目だよ!きらにぱ~~!!! 雲母たまこ にじさんじ :: Kirara Tamako :: DbmbzcwOE5I
>115846 :: 2026-05-27 :: 4年半ありがとうございました!!!! :: Kenmochi Toya :: ybNJU21M3HQ
>113375 :: 2026-01-06 :: VOLTACTION×3SKM FUSION LIVE “IMPACT” #VOLTACTIONx3SKM :: VOLTACTION :: 73l3bvqZNMk
>109135 :: 2026-02-01 :: 8th Anniversary にじさんじ大感謝祭 第1部【#にじさんじ8周年】 :: Nijisanji :: GvmbsxXHH-s
>108227 :: 2026-03-08 :: 【重め告知】やばくねーよ【漢字でGO!】 :: Kuzuha :: bm0Jt6gw_e0
>104167 :: 2026-01-12 :: 【#にじさんじ麻雀杯2026】新春!にじさんじ麻雀杯2026 Day3〜決勝トーナメント〜 :: Nijisanji :: R7YnQwy_PmI
>100063 :: 2026-01-05 :: 【#にじさんじ麻雀杯2026】新春!にじさんじ麻雀杯2026 企画説明&抽選会 :: Nijisanji :: z_cWnkAeJxg

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>>114493810
Hololive
>220448 :: 2026-08-30 :: 【#ホロぷよテト大会】ホロライブぷよテト大会2026!!!!!!!!!!!!!!【ぷよテト2】 :: Usada Pekora :: 36BSSfEkQr4
>211587 :: 2026-01-01 :: 新春ホロライブ五目並べ最強最弱王決定戦【#ホロ五目並べ最強最弱王 】 :: Sakura Miko :: 4Q1aT_qxeRg
>186009 :: 2026-01-02 :: 【#新春3期生24時間配信】新春あけおめ!ホロライブ24時間ぶっ通し生配信!1枠目【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら/不知火フレア/白銀ノエル/宝鐘マリン】 :: Usada Pekora :: y8SKnGDaWCE
>184450 :: 2026-03-15 :: ホロライブマリオテニス大会!!Hololive Mario Tennis Tournament!!【#ホロマリオテニス大会】 :: Usada Pekora :: GEBtogETOTs
">169066 :: 2026-03-05 :: 【3D LIVE】ゲスト多数 &超告知&新衣装あり‼ さくらみこ生誕祭2026"" Fashion Beat "" 【 #さくらみこ生誕祭2026 】 :: Sakura Miko :: B3OxuRMofcM"
>168393 :: 2026-08-11 :: 【水着新衣装お披露目!!】#宝鐘マリン7周年3DLIVE【ホロライブ/宝鐘マリン】 :: Houshou Marine :: qp1bA1A5bTQ
>155694 :: 2026-03-22 :: 【8周年アコースティックLIVE】#星街すいせい重大発表LIVE :: Hoshimachi Suisei :: Jz2xEfAjC8Y
>154792 :: 2026-01-12 :: 【#兎田ぺこら生誕2026】マリン船長 × ぺこらマミー初コラボ【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】 :: Usada Pekora :: oYkzILfNoHw
>133992 :: 2026-07-17 :: 【#兎田ぺこら7周年記念LIVE】7周年3D LIVE!NewOutfit BONUS!!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】 :: Usada Pekora :: WJWg8kGKoP0
>131982 :: 2026-05-06 :: 【#ホロ格付け】後輩が先輩を好き勝手に格付け??!ホロライブ!先輩格付けランキング!【ホロライブ/大空スバル】 :: Oozora Subaru :: EPkpznRWp_Y
>130595 :: 2026-01-01 :: もう1本グランプリ【#ゆくホロくるホロ2025】 :: Hololive VTuber Group :: Pk18ogU-zAM
>126479 :: 2026-06-14 :: 【3D】#ホロライブ歌うま大賞【生放送】 :: Usada Pekora :: HViPZmjIa14
>122348 :: 2026-03-29 :: 【#大空スバル7周年LIVE】大空スバル 7th 記念LIVE ラブミ:7th anniversary live【ホロライブ/大空スバル】 :: Oozora Subaru :: NfJsoMi1y0s
>117613 :: 2026-04-01 :: 【#ぺこらマミー新衣装】マミー、初めての新衣装をお披露目します【ママライブ/ぺこらマミー】 :: Usada Pekora :: jlYzCCOCM5E
>117427 :: 2026-08-01 :: 【 3D 】8周年記念みこち密告⁉超重大発表だにぇ~~~‼【#みこち超重大発表】 :: Sakura Miko :: L5K85bMDymA
>112836 :: 2026-01-03 :: 【#新春3期生24時間配信】新春あけおめ!ホロライブ24時間ぶっ通し生配信!4枠目【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら/不知火フレア/白銀ノエル/宝鐘マリン】 :: Houshou Marine :: iWLmuobqhXo
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>>114493791
She lost everyone, nobody likes her
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>>114493810
>>114493825
Incidentally, with yesterday's PuyoTetris 2 finals, Hololive beat Nijisanji for the biggest stream of the year (so far).
I don't remember a Holo tournament beating Koshien I think ... ever?
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Kiara...
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>>114471681
phasefags really have a huge complex over hololive
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>"Like what when we debuted when someone was pregnant their child is going to school already"
That's a really REALLY odd example IRyS....
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>>114493657
I only liked the first one but each to it's own I guess
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https://x.com/koganeiniko/status/2094332029722857977
Lel
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>>114493896
No it isn’t she still owes me child support after knocking me up in the BL aisle
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IRyS talking about the strip mahjong game
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what the FUCK is IRyS talking about
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>>114493954
Strip Mahjong
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COVER CORPORATION GIVE ME STRIP POKAJAN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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>>114493934
Oh. so that's why she started talking sexy.
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>>114493810
So the nijeet lied again? Typical.
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Oh, they're doing the koyori's thing of having half of the show being about shilling stuff?
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>>114493954
https://x.com/KaroshiMyriad/status/2094004406136262823
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>>114493934
Her husband is so lucky
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>>114493954
https://youtu.be/i13k1I1tNCI?si=cPzQfttt7N7UlfWS&t=1087
Super Real Mahjong Venus Returns
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Kaiji is that serious
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>>114493998
goodness gracious!! and crats want me to believe IRyS is straight
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>Chadcast featuring the Face of EN + the only other Holos to ever have a Sololive
>sub 10k ccv
Yeah Mori's gonna cancel this shit tomorrow. CCGG should create their own talk show, I'm 100% sure it would mog
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i want to fuck Bae and i want to fuck IRyS
basically i want to fuck an asian
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>>114494016
>ILLUMINATION
lmao based
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>>114494025
ccgg combined 3d live peaked at 37k they have even worse mass pull
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>>114494031
this and also I want to watch them fuck eachother
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>>114494031
>i want to fuck an asian
there are like 4 billion of them on this earth and not one of them is willing to fuck you
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>>114494031
But Mori is the most Asian
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>>114494052
theres fat ones though
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>>114494056
even those ones dont want to touch you
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>>114493810
>all gigabotted niji trash
>still lost to Hololive
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>>114494056
yea hololive has one
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BAU BAU
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>>114494055
she wishes
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>>114494031
Too bad she only fucks old millionaire musicians.
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>>114494077
The FATTEST
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>>114494025
How many people watched CCGG morning that one time?
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>>114494045
their singing stream were they danced in an abandoned warehouse had like 12k viewers, they have good pull together, their 3D live was simply too short to reach that 45k+ peak
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>>114494031
I have the perfect gen for you my friend
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this okayu pic looks like she's holding a dildo
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Nothing will attract audience that spending 20 minutes promoting stuff
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>Casey Edwards complimenting Mori
sababros...
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>>114494115
the strongest gen (for white men)
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>>114494045
It was culled, it has more views than Raora's
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>>114494112
it was an hour long as usual 3Ds and it was raided by noel
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I'm watching Tomari play Megaman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7cfUQzxaW0

while listening to ERB in another tab:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fIlr008mJQ
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>>114494145
Thanks for sharing Jurard
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>>114494125
Casey fought against Cover for Gura's "Ash Again" rights
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>>114494130
raoras was very obviously botted by someone here to shitpost
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>>114494112
Mori Gigi karaoke got like 20k
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>Chadcast doing damage control for the holodori gem economy
Kinda gross
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I want to be sensei for IRyS
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NIJI GOLD DORYAAAAAAAAA
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>>114494130
everytime you mention that ccgg live flopped there is always some butt hurt autotranny anti-ing raora
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>>114494178
That's not damage control, that's the truth.
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>>114494178
only because Calli is a dumb bitch who cant shill properly
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>>114494196
+100 yen depsited into bank account
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>>114494138
GG's segment was 43 minutes on her channel
CC's segment was 34 minutes (and had the highest peak of 37k )
Had CC gone on for an hour on her channel it would have reached 45K+ by the 50th minute
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why is chadcast getting all serious
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Why are we getting lectures about micro plastics from Mori?
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weird I can feel my brain shrinking during this educational segment
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>>114494166
>last year when Mori was botted to hell
okay cool story, but we live in 2026 now
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>>114494214
lol that's not how 3d lives or natural viewer progression works
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>>114494222
They realized that if they don't set very concrete topics with a set presenter it's just going to be IRyS talking about random anime/manga/otaku stuff for 2 hours straight while the other two can barely get a word in, but failed to take into account that that's really all anyone wants out of CHADCast
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>>114494247
HRT prevents xer from thinking logically please understand.
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>IRyS does NOT advocate for mixed material clothing
my bible abiding bimbo...
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>>114494225
She's trying to protect your balls dude.
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>>114494150
Wut? The rights for every original song stays with the girls unless they decide to sell it to Cover, reason for which a lot of Sora songs are explicitly mentioned in the “derivative work rights” as not being covered by Cover very permissive perms (because early songs of hers were never passed to Cover by Victor, her label).
It’s also why Haachama’s Red Heart were not put in the streaming platforms, because the early “short version” didn’t have the rights transferred to Cover either (likely because Haachama just winged it and didn’t get anyone to sign anything when producing it), leaving it in a limbo until she recorded the full version.

Gura wouldn’t have to “fight” for the song rights, all she would have to do would be *nothing*, which is likely what she did.
The reason the girls sell the rights to Cover is the same reason girls sign with labels: having it distributed in the Holo ecosystem alongside the rest gives it a whole lot more exposure than otherwise.
Gura was silly for not doing so, but she was silly for graduating too so there is that
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look at this goofy doggo right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqNEgljl5wo
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>>114494255
Actually what I want is that plus IRyS sticking her pits into the camera
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>>114494247
he's right CC's ccv was on a steady increase and would have reached 40K+ had it lasted longer
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BALLS MENTION
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>>114494301
that would release too much cum into the world all at once
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>>114494315
micoplastics are stored in the balls
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>>114494016
they should hack it and make an uncensored version
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the balls are stored in Bae's mouth
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>>114494366
yeah mine
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>>114494355
It is a porn game anon. You can customize the censor effects (mosaics, light rays, black bars, and more, all with adjustable strength/size) or turn them off entirely.
Most videos you find just have them on since they don't want to get fucked by Youtube/Twitter/etc
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IRyS nerd mode engage
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>>114494355
https://igg-games.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/Stripjong-Super-Real-Mahjong-Venus-Returns-PC-Crack.jpg
It is uncensored
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>irys anime section
This is just IRyS' part C
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He knows he isn't him by the dick size btw
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>>114494355
You can see uncensored tits on the steam page
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IRyS is such a NERD
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>>114494366
I want her to bounce that tight ass on me until I am drained.
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>>114494306
gigis section had 43 minutes to build up 35k viewers
those same viewers were then transferred to cecilias stream and in 34 minutes only gained 2k past the peak
the natural decrease in incoming viewers means another half hour would only add 1-2k if being very generous
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Is IRyS going to shill her rape smut again
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>gremreaper cover mention
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GREMREAPER BROS
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I don't know if i would ever choose to watch something on the basis that IRyS recommended it
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>>114494485
is there an anime with rape smut this season? not hentai, like legit anime
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https://x.com/sui_gekka/status/2094069570621608050
>jp indie
>plans a chatting + viewer participation stream
>advertise them on her twitter account
>gets lots of likes
>stream starts
>0 viewers
>stall for a significant while talking to herself
>still 0 viewers
>stream plans falls apart
>ends stream while crying
>apologizes on twitter for ending the stream early and betraying the expectations of people who were looking forward to it (the few hundred who liked the original post but never show up to the stream)
GRIM
What can we do as a community to prevent something like this from occuring?
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IRyS.....
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>>114494543
another victim of engagement on twitter...
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>>114494498
It's dead and buried, please end it calli.
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>>114494543
It's actually an old dude. Not even a babiniku. Just a dude with a female avatar.
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>>114494588
Orisong soon
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>>114494543
>herself
Did you not open "her" stream and realize it was a guy?
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>>114494604
How much more humiliation ritual can she take?
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>>114494615
>>114494597
she's trans you insensitive chuds
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>>114494483
GG had no 1st army JP on her show so it was gonna be lower than CC's stream regardless. CC had Marine which would have had more JP bros coming in to check out her stream as it went on
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Why is Bae acting like a normalfag trying to shame IRyS for liking incest?
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>beauty and health routines
>boring anime/manga talk
I remember why the first iteration of chadcast failed
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ChadCast corner rating
>Mori > IRyS > Bae
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>>114494543
You missed
>Someone replied that if no one showed up, didn't that mean no one had any expectation for her (him?) anyway
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>>114494655
It failed because none of them are interesting or charismatic enough and don't have interests that are different from the slop every other holo likes.
If it was in the golden age maybe it could sustain itself in views but nowadays it's not that different from any zatsudan they do by themselves on stream.
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>>114494652
she's mad IRyS wants to fuck her sister more than her
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>>114494543
Twitter Bots strike again!
But to "prevent" this, you simply don't do chatting streams when your audience is small/non existent, you either play a game or do some singing or something more entertaining than talking to get people curious about what you're playing or doing
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All the hype only for a sub 10k stream?
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>>114494708
I never understood why the girls decide to do chadcast a completely english stream during JP primetime
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>>114494734
maybe because they all live in japan
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>[Important Notice] My agency, "VEE," is closing. [Maru Nanamona/#VEE]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBf9F-S9OF0
She speaks in English/Japanese
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>>114494648
at that point it's already been over an hour of total runtime
if only 2k viewers came in for the first army over 35 minutes then there isn't much left to tap into
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>>114494745
Fucking Sony Music baka
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>>114494741
yet their audience is predominantly NA and they're all speaking in english
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I like anime talk because Mori's poser ass can't follow the conversation
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>>114494734
It's a casual, chill podcast they do in their spare time to relax so doing it after work is probably their most comfortable time
Doing it in EN hours probably will be harder to organize (due to holowork in the day), or might require IRyS to wake up way earlier than she is used to
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>>114494768
Nigga just making shit up
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>>114494745
>She speaks in English/Japanese
Anon, Hitsuji-Koyori is known in this thread. Give us the QRD tho, Sony is exiting the vtuber market?
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>>114494783
yeah, Mori makes a lot of shit up just to fit in the talk
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>>114494767
That ship has sailed, they are all living in Japan, two of them literally have sololives coming up in Tokyo and the other brings up her dream Japan concert tour everyday. The western audience will never be a priority.
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>>114494801
Christ get a life nigga
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>>114494801
>>114494783
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>>114494790
They are going to work with Hybe to focus on Wild Cat Club
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IRyS chad-vice -
fucking random salarymen in tokyo for 5000 yen
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>>114494817
>>114494801
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>>114494804
Then they won't have the funding to continue the branch
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>>114494790
The vtubing market is dying, it was always a bubble.
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>>114494801
True, Mori is a larper
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>>114494853
She's always been a casual anime watcher
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>>114494790
>Hitsuji-Koyori is known in this thread.
I didn't know that, good, sheep vtuber love
basically
>there are 20 VEE talents who plan to stick around, keeping their names, characters, YouTube channels, and social accounts.
>They might go independent or switch to a different management setup.
>One talent, Hinahoshi Airu, is wrapping things up and ending her activities.
>The fan community for VEE will be closing on September 30, the shop will shut down later, and the upcoming Gun Girl Go game has been cancelled.

The striking part is that VEE kicked off in 2021 hoping to have over 50 virtual talents and managed to pull in around 18,000 audition applicants. Fast forward five years, and now Sony is basically saying it just couldn't figure out a sustainable business model. Shieeeet.
https://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/article/2608/31/2000000976/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
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>>114494829
At least 100k yen. She's so goddamn hot.
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>>114494748
>there isn't much left to tap into
yes there is, another 10 minutes would have definitely given brought her to 40k+
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>>114494838
It won't grow but it will stick around as a niche thing for a tiny minority of hyper weeaboos in the US and an exotic hololive white monkey sideshow for the Asian audience
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>>114494843
The *AI market is dying, it was always a bubble.
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>>114494745
huh she's cute
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>mori's trainer likes it when she gets sweaty
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>>114494801
facts, that's why she's so awkward and boring in pretty much any collab, she doesn't add shit to any convo
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>>114494880
That doesn't bod well for the branch it's gonna be basically ID lite
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brownvtm melty.
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>>114494898
Mori's MALE trainer btw
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>>114494901
I still think en and id should be merged for hololive. It simplifies their overseas operations and opens it up to recruit talents from other regions too without having to worry about a new branch.
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>>114494783
morischizos actually have impaired hearing cause mori literally watched like half of the anime mentioned so far, and it's not like bae was any better with following the convo
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>>114494745
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>mori has a strong back from carrying around her massive tits her whole life
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>>114494921
Would you be able to body mori with her 35kg strength?
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>>114494901
What is the alternative? Any EN member with greater ambitions than streaming shit and piss simulator 5 days per week will end up moving to Japan, at which point the only way to remain a western focused vtuber would be to wake up at 7 AM everyday on a full time streamer's sleep schedule and actively refuse constant invitations to JP collabs, JP hours events and potentially even sololives in Japan, and for what, to be able to say that they aren't pandering to JP viewers or that they still put US viewers first?
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>>114494951
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So morischizo doesn't go to the gym then? No surprises there
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>what are your go to stress relivers?
>*giggles*
what did she mean by that
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you just know it's a bunch of EUfags shitposting about this because all three of these girls stream at perfect hours for PST
6 years of not watching streams and 6 years of bitching about timezones
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>>114494876
It doesn't help their "bigger" talents went/returned to being indie
https://vee-official.jp/talent/
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We need holoKR to revitalize interest in vtubing
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>>114494924
Phase and holostars should merge, only seems like the most logical next step, lots of overlap between the audiences.
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we need pekora to flirt with white gaijins
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>>114494977
5 AM PST is a perfect time?
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>>114494977
SEAmonkey larping as a burger lol
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>niji uses many of the same artists that Holo does for their models
>every single niji L2D is horribly animated
>niji's 3D looks like shit and is also poorly animated
Why???
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Whatever happened to Kiara's fortnightly Japanese talkshow?
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>>114495003
riggers and artists are not the same
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Yaawn
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>>114494998
>admitting to not watching streams
this is why your continent will never be relevant for Cover
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>>114494998
Isn't 5am RST?
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>>114494876
Sony has music movies and video games and they couldn't figure out how to involve their vtuber franchise in any of those? Man Xbox did win in the end it seems...
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>>114495011
I know, but why doesn't anycolor pay for decent animators?
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i really really want to relieve Bae's stress
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>>114495025
Well their games division they are suiciding it.
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>>114495020
Are you not watching the highly anticipated return of CHADCast, an EN podcast of sorts featuring 3 popular EN members, which started at 5 AM PST?
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>>114495030
because 2% and yachts
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>>114495044
yes I got up for it and that's why we matter and you don't
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>>114495025
What does Xbox have in the vtubing sphere?
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Cover really screwed over Achrora.
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>>114495062
I don't think it's hard to get up at 8pm at night SEA bro
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>>114495062
Then you can continue to wake up at 5 AM to watch your EN members who stream at "perfect hours" lol
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Honestly Cover should just sell HoloEN to Phase, let Phase buy their contracts. Phase is clearly more suited for western streamers and Cover clearly has no desire to do much with EN. With HoloEN in the Phase ecosystem, they would create the greatest EN vtuber company ever
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>>114495025
Yeah shove our vtuber nobody watches in Ghost of Yotei that’ll save em!
Retard
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>>114495077
true, then they would start streaming again lol
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>>114495064
They own Minecraft the game that made Hololive take off
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>getting work/hobby balance advice from streamers who barely work and monetize their hobbies
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>>114495075
and you will anti EN for another 6 years as well
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>>114495077
>phasebeggar begging for actually popular VTubers
lmao phase couldn't afford a single Holo IP lil bro
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>>114495089
Or they can just give gaming perms to their own chuubas while denying holos and nijis?
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>>114495025
Their video games office moved to LA ages ago
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I'm so fucking tired of this
my Fuwawa birthday merch got delivered no problem
my Mococo birthday merch has issues with customs and I will have to pay

there's like a 30% chance that any order from the holostore fucks up the customs, fuck this shit I'm not ordering shit again
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>>114494978
Oh it’s the one Fubuki sister who somehow survived… well at least for now
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>>114494876
>The striking part is that VEE kicked off in 2021 hoping to have over 50 virtual talents and managed to pull in around 18,000 audition applicants.
>Fast forward five years, and now Sony is basically saying it just couldn't figure out a sustainable business model
That was obvious from day zero, and from their absurd first attempt with VERSEn.
They spent a buttload of money PRE-DEBUT (!) but neglected the most important part of any vtubing endeavor
>to actually support their talent and create a good environment for their audience
It didn’t help that Kaguya Luna (now PMaru) did that expose showing that SONY even committed wage theft when managing her, that smothered VEE in the crib
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ok but i really really want to fuck Bae though
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>>114495077
Some of their talents don't even have active contracts right now
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>>114495089
Or create a game with their vtubers in it, like a jrpg that takes place in their vtuber world, and then advertise that shit on their state of play or at Geoff's events
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>>114495003
cheap work and old ass app
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>>114495141
Get in line
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>>114495141
IRyS I know the stream is ending but please focus
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>>114494745
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>>114495098
EN? You mean jp lite, white monkey edition?
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>>114495145
Yea spend hundreds of thousands of dollars developing an entire original JRPG featuring literally who 2views, that will sell like hotcakes for sure and prop those 2view shitters to internation stardom
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>>114495077
I know you laughed while you typed this and it's only meant to trigger everyone /here/ but I would not be mad if this happened because it low key makes sense
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>>114494708
>3 runts
Makes sense, what else where you expecting
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>>114495193
but chadcast slipping means its a Bae gold today
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>>114495169
Nobody would know they are "2view vtubers" and if the game is good then who cares people will play it. If you told me Baldurs Gate 3 was based on vtubers after I had played it, I wouldn't be mad at it
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>>114494708
They really spent a year building up to this grand return, hyped it up at cons, commissioned a new theme song, pulled out the stops and then failed to make the global tally and lost to a Bae solo gaming stream in the first episode.
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>>114495209
It annoys me that their L2Ds were positioned in a different order during the stream.
IRyS was left, Bae center, and Mori on the right.
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>>114495141
Shes all yours roberu
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>>114495204
ya she only needed a huge raid from bijou
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>>114494025
>their own talk show
its called every first 30 minutes of their collab
ccgg is strong but sub 10k ccv
loud modern audience spread the mindshare but dont watch streams
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>>114495077
>>114495187
These anons are right
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>>114495235
she retained it pretty well though
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>>114495204
>raided
Worthless
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>>114495231
The retarded part is that they are not in the CHaD order
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>Merging with THE grifter chud company
What are these phaseniggies smoking?
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Here Comes the CHADCAST
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>>114495268
they're desperate after pippa's male collab yab killed her numbers and now every phase whore is losing to homos daily
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>>114495231
Bae is center because she is the leader
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>>114495268
aren't Pippa and Mori friends? They'd merge just fine. And I'm sure Clio will be happy to see Poya/CC again.
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Biboo is the official phabtom fourth member of CHAD
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The song makes the podcast sound waaay more interesting and mischievous than it actually is lmao.
Also the song feels like a Frankenstein of 4 different parts, kind of a mess
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What the fuck is the budget for this lmao
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ok that MV was kinda kino
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>>114495131
What country? Cover does a pretty good job of handling the wild west that is the current US customs situation.
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Am I the only one who thinks this song is very not good?
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>>114495344
yeah I saw your post elsewhere too
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>>114495298
For the nth time now, a phasecuck commissioning mori to draw pippa doesn't make them friends
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>replace kronii with mori
>becomes kino
What went wrong with Promise?
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>>114495344
yes
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>>114495361
Very ironic post if you were around at their debut
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>>114495361
retard
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>>114495334
3 holoEN talent that can perform a sololive budget
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Is chadcast the micomet of EN now?
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They just got 6 different animators to do different parts. It's not as high budget as you think
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Biboo?
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>>114495405
PURE KINO!
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Upon checking immediate channels, most people seem to like the song outside of /HiRyS/ which is unsurprising
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So is this going to be a monthly thing?
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>>114495361
2 of them were grifters and quit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmOAI861d7I
Wunder Riku is talking about the song now
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>>114495402
No that's Autofister, Chadcast is more like NEPOLABO
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>requirements to become a CHAD from holoEN
>sololive
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That MV is gonna go viral. Great choice.
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>>114495405
foreshadowing of biboo gonna release her album and perform a sololive not far from the future and become part of CHADCast
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>>114495361
>implying promise isn't kino by default
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>>114495403
>they just paid 6 different people, they didn't spend that much
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>>114495405
The 3 most botted EN members and Bae
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>>114495361
>replace kiara and ina with irys and bae
>becomes kino
What went wrong with Myth?
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>>114495413
/Hirys/ doesn't like anything they don't even like IRyS
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remember when Mori force HoloJP to end their talk show thing because "it was her idea" and then Mori went on to do nothing with said idea?
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>>114495495
remember when you weren't a tranny making up shit?
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>>114495424
autofister is way too weak for that comparison
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>at Studio Stellar we're going with this as out default outfit
so it was all just so she could have her own outfit not owned by cover
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>>114495361
>replace Shiori with Bae
>replace Nerissa with IRyS
>replace FWMC with Mori
>becomes kino
What went wrong with Advent?
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>>114495530
>>114495516
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>>114495519
they're the strongest most popular duo in EN so that is their "micomet"
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>>114495530
>hoshiyomi has to deal with that abomination of an outfit from now on
grim
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>longest wait for first original song release since debut

>Mel: 1260 days
>Ayame: 1125 days
>Choco: 1097 days
>Shion: 1096 days
>Subaru: 1021 days
>Mio: 987 days
>Anya: 971 days
>Haachama: 953 days
>Shiori: 932 days
>Luna: 931 days
>Amelia: 856 days
>Aqua: 846 days
>>>ERB: 797 days (still no release)
>Noel: 780 days
>Matsuri: 750 days
>Korone: 731 days
>Vivi: 721 days

Considerations
>As of today ERB is the ONLY member without an original solo song
>From the "modern" debuts (post 2022) Shiori has the longest wait since debut to release an original solo song, followed by ERB and Vivi

>Debut date vs first solo original song (Justice)

>>>ERB: 797 days (still no release)
>Raora: 489 days
>Gigi: 483 days
>Cecilia: 413 days

Considerations
>Despite being the music focused Justice, ERB has no original song yet
>The rest of Justice had more than one original song in the works at the same time, with Raora and Gigi already releasing 2 each and Cecilia confirming she's working on her second song too

>Debut date vs first original song (music focused ENs)

>Mori: 0 days (ready at debut)
>IRyS: 0 days (ready at debut)
>Kiara: 75 days
>Bae: 188 days
>Nerissa: 272 days
>>>ERB: 797 days

Considerations
>By the time ERB is still waiting to release her first original the rest of the list had
>Mori: 2 EPs, 3 albums
>IRyS: 3 EPs
>Kiara: 5 original songs
>Bae: 1 EP
>Nerissa: 1 EP

Other fun facts
>ERB is 59 days away from matching the wait from Ame (856 days) who wasn't a singer
>ALL of Council (yes even SANA) released an original solo song before their first anniversary, when Omega was the director of EN
>Despite having arguably less budget and confirmed to have less managers, all of ID except Anya (who already has 3 by now) had already released an original solo song by the time ERB is still waiting for hers
>The last ERB solo cover was released 676 days ago
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>>114495545
>most popular duo in EN
>their duo 3D can't even break 40k ccv
What?
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>>114495545
duo means nothing when ina by herself is stronger than both combined
micomet combined is better than everyone
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>>114495563
Culled, better views and likes than Raora and that was 40k CCV
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDwKf0iGDTE

FACKING
MONKEY
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>>114495563
they're the least botted members in EN and still mog the botted "faces of EN" every now and then. And they fucked up their duo 3d live
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>>114495579
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>>114495452
they paid each 1/6 of the money
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>>114495588
the long awaited sequal to pekoramonkey
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>>114495545
you can combine almost any two ENs abd it would be stronger than autofister as they are just two runts combined
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>>114495495
That's not true, she did one JP hours drinking stream with like 5 guests and it also got underwhelming numbers and lost to just Mori and Biboo sleeping through some mid video game trailers at EU hours
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>>114492406
CUTE
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>>114495596
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>>114495579
wasn't there a little TOO much BaeRyS in this MV???
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>>114495077
This is basically what happened with Gura and Vshojo.
So if this leads to other remaining grifters leaving hololive and phase imploding as result then I'm all for it
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>>114495588
not the same animal, why is Kiara so racist?
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>>114495569
I forgot Ina existed. What's she up to?
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>>114495557
>Mori: 2 EPs, 3 albums
>IRyS: 3 EPs
>Kiara: 5 original songs
>Bae: 1 EP
>Nerissa: 1 EP
It's worth pointing out that Kiara and Bae were not dedicated singers from day 1, so while they only released a handful of songs like Nerissa, they weren't expected to.
By the way, Mori and IRyS released a half dozen singles in addition to those EPs and albums in their first two years
Nerissa and ERB are more directly comparable to Mori and IRyS, and they are both far, far behind
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>>114495569
Ina doesn't mog CCGG anon, Ina barely hits10k even in a return buff from a month long break
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>>114495361
*same joke but with justice*
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>>114495608
>some mid video game trailers
>main stream had hundreds of thousands live viewers
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>>114495557
>Haachama: 953 days
As mentioned several times in response to this post, this number can’t be accurate because she released Red Heart mid 2020, less than or close to two years into her career.
Getting this basic information wrong puts the rest in question
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>>114495139
I agree
>>114495139
>They spent a buttload of money PRE-DEBUT (!) but neglected the most important part of any vtubing endeavor
>>to actually support their talent and create a good environment for their audience
The definition of soulless corpo/black company behavior, damn. And niggers who accuse Cover of being a black company are a joke. It's laughable.
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>>114495601
no proof
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>>114495643
Yea the almighty future games show
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>>114495643
>main stream had hundreds of thousands live viewers
Yet no one can name a single game that was shown there
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>>114495635
Her next stream will hit 12k, mark my words
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>>114495649
NTA but I'm not sure half an MV on Twitter counts as "releasing"
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>>114495649
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Everyone has already forgotten about Holodori.
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>>114495634
>how can I make this about Nerissa seethe
kys
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>>114495635
higher 3d and merch sells faster than their combined one
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>>114495579
>Mori mooching her way into Baerys
good hopefully she stops forcing her way into Autofister
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>>114495649
I'm counting the full release
>uhm I'll doubt the rest
retard
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>>114495704
>higher 3d
What did she get?
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>>114495693
To be fair to the two singers who have worked hard from day 1 for 5 and 6 years, I don't think we should give a pass to the two who don't have the most originals in their own gens.
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>>114495687
So sad
No one cares about gamers
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uh oh looks like someone is suffering from
CCGG CCGG CCGG MADNESS
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>>114495755
>how can I make this about Nerissa seethe
Kill. Yourself.
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>>114495709
after Chadflop you can fully expect Mori to abandon Baerys and go back to Autofister assuming those 2 start to gain traction again, we know Mori simply goes were the number are hence why she embarrassingly tried to become Kronii's sidekick again, but Kronii simply ignored the fuck out of her and gave her no attention
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>>114495772
>Mori to abandon Baerys and go back to Autofister assuming those 2 start to gain traction again
based based based based she should ruin that one too
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>>114495772
jesus christ do you ever sit back and read your own posts, they're fucking embarrassing
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>>114495767
Explain why Nerissa has fewer songs than girls who aren't dedicated EN singers. Or did you think this was a thread you get to shit on EN girls for free in?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1w2e3sg/hololive_dreams_1_month_review_impressions/

I think the most obvious "issue" is that the game has been bombarding players with events/banners, combined with the fact that the daily currency income is pretty much non-existent once you've S-cleared all songs in the game, which doesn't take a lot of effort.

From launch up until now there have been four swimsuit events, with a total of 16(!) characters back-to-back-to-back-to-back.

Gacha
I've noticed a lot of casual / new-to-gacha gamers blowing their honeymoon period currency on one of the beginner banners, and now finding out how stingy this game actually is. Let's explain the gacha first:

250 currency per roll
Spark at 200 rolls (does not carry over)
Gacha rates for 3/4/5-star characters is 85%/10%/5% respectively
There usually are two special banners up. For instance, right now is the Gamers banner. One banner has all rate-up cards/characters at an even rate (0.5%). On the other one, you can pick which one to rate up even more, and the others get a lower rate (1% vs 0.333..%). All other non-banner 5-star characters have a rate of 0.0454%, but that will obviously decrease as time goes on and more and more characters will be added to the pool
Cards don't vanish after the banner is up, but are included in all future banners as well
Exception to the above rule is the 'standard' banner, which only has the starter pool. (One 3/4/5-star card per character)
The f2p income (I've copied over some information from a thread on the Hololive Dreams subreddit by /u/Ritsuji:

100 gems for S-ranking a song
Events (3 per month - assuming Silver tiering (second lowest)):
Point Rally (1,200 gems):

Daily Missions (9 days) - Clear 1 song and use 10 boosts per day: 180 gems
Free Missions - Clear event songs 10 times, play 50 lives, get 1 million event points: 320 gems
Silver ranking reward: 700 gems
Score Challenge (1,050 gems):

Daily Missions (9 days) - Clear 1 song and use 10 boosts per day: 180 gems
Free Missions - Clear event songs 10 times, play 50 lives, get 500k event points, get 1 S score in any event song: 470 gems
Silver ranking reward: 400 gems
Spotlight (2,130 gems):

Daily Missions (11 days) - Play 1 live: 220 gems
Free Missions - Play 50 lives: 60 gems
Chapter Missions (5 chapters) - Get 200k event points: 600 gems
Silver ranking reward (5 chapters): 1,250 gems
Achievements give 20 currency per achievement.

During the honeymood period, you 'unlock' members twice a day. After unlocking them, you get a ticket for the standard banner. Seeing how there are 50+ members right now, that's 50 rolls spread out over a month-ish. There are also other one-time-only methods to earn tickets. As of right now though, they have dried up, so there's no real incentive anymore to roll on the standard banner unless you're close to spark.

The paid "income":

No monthly pass like Uma/Genshin/etc, but a monthly pass that doubles your rewards in events / materials and gives you 360 premium currency (3eur/usd)
Battle pass. Yes, only the paid battle pass has currency income:
1600 preium currency
5000 normal currency once you cap out the pass (1000 per 10 levels)
Note: Starting from next month, the free battle pass will include 1000 normal currency
Just straight out buying currency (which has a real weird thing going on - for some reason the cheapest pack is the most cost-effective one?):

€2.99 120.4 diamonds/€ (360 total)
€7.99 118.9 diamonds/€ (950 total)
€22.99 108.7 diamonds/€ (2500 total)
€34.99 114.3 diamonds/€ (4000 total)
€69.99 117.2 diamonds/€ (8200 total)
So if you do the math (or if you read the thread I've linked above), it would take a f2p player about 7-8 months of saving gems until they hit the spark cap (50k diamonds).

Gameplay
It's a rhythm game; not much to say there. I'm no expert on rhythm gacha games so I do not know if Dreams is doing anything special when you compare it to other rhythm games on the market right now. The songs are auto-able, so there's no need to "play" the game for the events if you don't want to.

The minigames are fun though. There are solo mini games and multiplayer minigames, and they recently released a Cops And Robbers type of game which is pretty addicting.

Story
There... is a story, I guess. If you're a fan of Hololive you will definitely notice some characters acting weirdly / out of character, but this game has been in development for over two years now (talents have said on stream they recorded voice lines for this 1.5-2 years ago), so "character" dynamics have changed a lot over that period. If you're not a fan of Hololive then I don't think the story would really interest you.
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>>114495749
last one was 47k
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>>114495799
Conclusion
I saw the stingy-ness coming so I think I spent like 5k gems so far, and I'm only now nearing the spark amount. Like I said at the start, I know people who are not familiar with gachagames who rolled hard at the beginning and are now just burning out from the lack of income. I feel like it will have to change if they want to keep the Western audience attached.

I myself will keep playing until my favorite member gets a rate-up banner, and then I'll see how many currency I have left / if they income has been improved.
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>>114495799
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>>114495686
Anon, that's the full version. She released the "short" version in June 2020 and even sang it in that year's HoloFes.
The reason she ended up "replacing" the old version with the "official" one is explained at >>114494288
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>>114495799
are you that bored to copy paste reddit posts
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>>114495772
that big walk collab still cracks me up kronii deadass didn't respond to anything mori said she had her talking to herself kek!
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>>114495805
In 2026?
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>>114495799
I'm a big hololive fan but I soured on it quickly. The actual game has good bones but there's basically no pulls and the event cadence is comically fast plus the story doesn't take into account any of the character's personalities it might as well be completely randomly generated.

I am particularly miffed by the "membership" monetization wherein I have to be subscribed USD 2/month for 11 months to reap the maximal amount of paid currency to buy the things and that feels like a new dark pattern that I've never seen before: its like it wants me to forget that I am paying for something.
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>>114495832
2025, didn't have one this year yet
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>>114495765
lost to german lagtrain lol
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>>114495820
If short versions count ERB has had an original song for over a year now, and in fact she released her first original around her first anniversary which is perfectly standard
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>>114495799
>>114495812
LMAO, WALL OF TEXT
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>>114495885
>If short versions count ERB has had an original song for over a year now, and in fact she released her first original around her first anniversary which is perfectly standard
Why would that NOT count? I'm absolutely baffled and asking genuinely because I don't understand why would people not consider the release of a version of the original song as a "release"
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>>114495139
>>114495658
Basically, Sony had the money and connections, but VEE came in late and never built the same strong identity or fandom as Hololive/Nijisanji. Even in a 2023 interview, VEE producer Task Watanabe basically said his job was to “give VEE an identity,” so people would know VEE itself instead of just “that VTuber thing Sony Music runs.” Kinda shows they were still trying to figure out the brand a year after debut. Said the nigga responsible for their identity.

https://cocotame.jp/series/039924/
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>>114495884
cc on suicide watch
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>>114495911
The entire post that started this discussion is literally just about how ERB is the only hololive member without an original song and how everyone else took less time than her to release an original
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>>114495799
>€
EVERY
TIME
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>>114495884
CC and Kiara should form a German duo and do German streams from time to time
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>>114495876
GRIM
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>>114495937
it's the same, possibly more expensive in dollars. Imagine being mad at the currency used because someone's from a continent you view as your boogeyman. Next time you have a point for sure, consumerpig.
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>>114495790
Doesn't matter when he is jsut talking to himself.
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>>114495955
Hello anon CC here.
Nein
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>>114495799
nijiseethe
tldr
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>>114495885
The reason why many people don't consider ERB's song an "original" is because it's about something completely unrelated to hololive. The character in the video isn't even ERB but one of her rp characters that she uses in that twitch rp stuff. Also it's a short version
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>>114495935
I'm on the camp that ERB is lazy, unprofessional and doesn't care about Hololive the littlest (having joined because she thought she could change its culture and help "onboard" the Holostars, the branch she really cares, as part of Hololive, an agency she knows very little about or nothing) but in this particular case, if she posted an original song she clearly released it.
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Another fucking yab and this one I don't even understand it
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If your currency isn't dollars then you are subhuman
Unless, of course, your currency is ARS, then you aren't even human to begin with
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>>114495974
Yah Guten Tag Doll Kaiser!
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>>114495988
t. uses singapore dollars
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>>114495979
>The character in the video isn't even ERB
Same goes for Anya's first original and I never saw anyone complain about that
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>>114495884
>Orisong lost to a cover
Yes?
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should this ancient dusty hags be threatening to tell mom and dad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir1nOokFczQ
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>>114495987
Attract dramafags, die by dramafags
Truth is they yearn for drama no matter how small. And if there isn't any? Well they can manufacture one out of nothing
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>>114496013
CCGG MADNESS
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>>114495988
no healthcare seethe. Careful with the bloodpressure you don't wanna croak due to hypertension with no way to save your obese ass lmfao
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>>114495988
It’ll never stop being funny seeing Europeans online drag themselves down to SEA’s level instead of acting like the first world countries they are offline
What causes them to be so retarded?
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>>114495987
Can phase whores go a single hour without trying to engagement bait on twitter?
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none of you realise but CCGG is more popular than chadcast, they deserve the sololives
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>>114496033
Don't worry about it bucko. I can afford it because I'm not being paid in monopoly money, unlike you
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>>114496033
If you get free healthcare why do yuros still contribute less to Holos than burgers and SEA?
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>>114496053
most HRT brained post of all time
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>>114496053
2/3 of chadcast makes up the most popular EN ship
autofister might be popular in the west but the much larger audience of japanese fans love baerys > bloodraven > autofister
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>>114496067
they're not dumb enough to pay some soulless E whore company
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>>114496053
CCGG fans are all tannies who don't even know what hololive is
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>>114496068
HRT = heart
CCGG love each other with their hearts
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>>114496078
For a ship to be popular it would first have to be

Alive. And Bloodraven's a joke let's not kid ourselves
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>>114496085
Whatever your female brain trapped in a mans body tells you xis
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>>114496083
Yea because Autofister is bigger than hololive
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>>114496083
then explain why 60% of serenskibidi were grems and otomos
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>>114496104
>Autofister is bigger than hololive
HOLY SHIT
ISREAL
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the fucking mera mera indian clip (soundpost is dead) referenced in the chadcast song lmao
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>>114496095
you greatly overestimate the mental state of shipfags if you think reality matters. a ship sailing or sunken or even nonexistent altogether has no bearing on whether people like it
to be a shipfag is to be insane
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>>114496110
Otomos are mostly EU and they weren't dumb enough to travel to an overpriced and overrated concvert.
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Back from vacation (and work)
Not going to post much right now, just announcing my return
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>>114496142
wrong. CC has a huge NA audience. more than any chadcast member
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>>114496163
I can tell lmao
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>>114496142
Zero hololive members have a mostly EU fanbase anon… You could go further and say zero have a relevant EU fanbase
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For reference
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>>114496082
You have a lot more to worry about than not being able to afford $5 month yuropoor. But chances are you're that hoyocuck paying chinks anyway.
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>>114496185
this is not CC she has never dropped below 5k
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>>114496235
This is her at NA hours.
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>Be euro
>Life is so good, you have free healthcare
>Spending on idols? You are not stupid, why would you spend money on e-whores
>Spending on gacha? You are not stupid, why would you spend money on some stupid game
>Spending on air conditioning? You are not stupid, why would you spend money when you can endure being sweaty and stinky for a couple days.

I think you are just poor and making excuses about saving money to save face. In fact the only reason why you have free healthcare, is because without it you all would just die on the street, and your commie overlords need you working till you're dead for your socialist programs to import even more people
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>>114496211
Natty
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>>114496248
>air conditioning
what.
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>>114496245
which stream??
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>be mutt
>live in expensive mega city with 5k$ rent
>get stabbed by blacks at night
>no free healthcare meaning you will go into debt any time you got to the hospital
>least amount of vacation days
>can't walk anywhere
>rapist pedophile president
>but atleast I can throw the few dollars I have left at egirls for 2 minutes of their attention
in case you're wondering why he's seething at 7am, waking up to catch a jp hours stream lol
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I just fucking KNOW Flare and Suisei are the reason for the ban on cosplay porn
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Reminder
Kiara wasted her 1 mil wish on German channel that went nowhere because euros don't watch vtubers and have no money to spend on them
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>>114496287
KEKAROOOOOO
Kiara retarded
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I mean CC's last 3 songs mog the shit out of Mori and Irys last 3 songs... CC might really be the rising star in EN now....
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>>114496261
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>>114496302
CC definitely deserves the sololive more than raidbaby irys
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>>114496302
>t. KFP still wondering why Kiara had to do a duolive even though she has top 3 EN MV views
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>>114496302
Damn... EUchads won
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>>114496313
yeah but japanese company means that seniority system exists, and she doesn't care about a sololive and wants to all in on autofister because fuck her fans
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>>114496302
Amazing
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>>114496284
Americans have cars, we don't live around blacks
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>>114496211
You really can't compare this to BaeRyS because this is more than what Bae and IRyS get on average.
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>>114496302
>Honest views
vs
>Fake views counted with new method
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>>114496302
Yup I'm thinking this is a brutal mogging
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Wow this is unironically just the reheated shitposting used for bae
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>>114496302
Now show their most viewed songs ototroon
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>>114496302
too bad she's on her way out and is just another case of Cover overlooking another superb talent because of low sub numbers and low seniority bs
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>>114496284
dude you're angry
go get some curry or something
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>>114496338
nobody cares about you did 5 years ago, it's what you're doing today that matters
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>>114496311
I literally can’t imagine living in a house apartment or condo without HVAC
it isn’t a question of cost, are their buildings huts from before the stone age
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>>114496360
Mori last year alone did more views than CC's shitty songs ever will
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>>114496284
>be euro
>live in shitty post-war city with 5k$ rent
>get stabbed by imported blacks at night
>free healthcare meaning you will die in line by the time you get to the doctor visit
>90% of your income gets taxed
>can't walk anywhere
>rapist pedophile president
>can't even throw the few dollars I have left at egirls for 2 minutes of their attention
>But at least I produce no emission so I'm saving the planet
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>>114496322
>first gen 1 sololive occurred after gens 2, 3, and 4 sololives
Seniority is not a thing for sololives
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>>114496377
>last year when Mori was botted to hell
yeah well if I wanna hire the most watched singer in EN today and I see that picture, I'm going with CC cause she's hot right now and the other 2 have lost steam
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>be euro
>do nothing
>win
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What are justice fags huffing? Its like the most un-idol like gen in forever.
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>>114496009
Anya's character originates purely with hololive context with Anya herself being at the end of the MV. ERB's original is COMPLETELY unrelated to hololive and only related to random twitch rp characters. Anya released another original 6 months later. Something which is also absent from ERB. Why do you think Rosarians don't even consider what ERB posted an original?
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>>114496395
>I'm going with CC
That's so BASED
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>>114496423
CCGG is more idol-like than chadcast though. They only lose out to FWMC
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>>114496395
>hot right now
>her last solo song is over a year old
Lol
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>>114496448
FWMC are idol fans, not idol-like
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>>114496466
Then that means CCGG are at the top
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>>114496411
You wouldn't exist without US.
You should be on your knees thanking daddy USA for defending you. If not for us you would be speaking Russian.
Also you are speaking American right now for a reason you ungrateful dog.
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>>114496485
I like Americans which is why I know you aren't one
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>>114496433
>ERB's original is COMPLETELY unrelated to hololive
That's not true, it's ERB's character and she's a hololive member
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the only people that would be mad if cover gave bae and irys' sololive slots to CC and GG are brats and irystocrats. Everyone else would be celebrating
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>>114496485
>speaking Russian
lol
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>>114496485
silence SEA monkey we brought modern civilization to your land
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>>114496513
Sololives for what? To sing covers?
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>>114496448
Idols don't speak in rainbow mafia language
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>>114496336
You talking about the guy who used to say Bae deserves a Sololive over Mori? welcome to typical schizo goalpost moving. Once a goalpost is reached, change target and repeat.
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>>114495791
Nerissa has
>6 orisongs (Say My Name was revealed on her 2023 birthday, 4 months after debut) , 10 more coming on her album next year
>8 Advent group original songs
>2 duo orisongs
>15 solo covers
>7 Advent covers
>9 Duo/group covers
>2nd Most invited EN member for 3Dlive guest appearences after Mori since making her 3D debut
>participated in the world tour
And that's not even including songs like Gimmick Gimmick Entertainment
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>>114496571
Holy retard. Bae had an EP and an album to her name. Where are CC’s and GG’s EPs and albums?
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>>114496541
To sing whatever they want and the fans will love it
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>>114496248
>Spending on gacha? You are not stupid, why would you spend money on some stupid game
He does though, this is the sharty fag hoyoverse shill, also from /v/ and /vg/. He pays chinks for gacha slop, russians for gas, and at least half of his wage in taxes to be replaced by muslims that also kill his current countrymen.
The reason he's mindbroken by VTubers and their fans is because they get entertainment and escapism without having to deal with his living hell with no prospects for the future in his yuro shithole.
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>>114496587
Just keep doing karaokes then.
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>>114496586
You're misinterpreting my post. I'm saying that the
>X holo deserves a sololive more
are all variations of the same shitpost with swapped targets, whether they meet the requirements is a different matter
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>>114496586
>Where are CC’s and GG’s EPs and albums?
See >>114496587
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>>114496554
rest in the laps
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>>114496574
>2nd Most invited EN member for 3Dlive guest appearences after Mori since making her 3D debut
Anyone got a tally for EN's 3D guest appearances?
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Why did chadcast fail?
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>>114496618
No, he made that up
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>>114496602
Karaokes don't make money. Selling out concert venues does
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>>114495885
>>114495911
>>114495979
>>114496009
>>114496433
>>114496512
ERB short doesn't count because half an orisong is not an orisong. No one considers Life Time Show Time FuwaMoco's first original despite being released early, but as a short. Everyone knows Baudol if FuwaMoco's first orisong.
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>>114496632
Well keep living in lala land, you need original music.
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>>114496635
Baudol belongs to GG actually
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>>114496632
>Selling out concert venues does
Bad news for holoEN post serenfloppity
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>>114496610
Bae deserving a sololive after all her time and effort put into producing music is a valid point, and clearly one Cover agreed with because she has one this year. To say she doesn’t deserve it and even comparing CCGG’s lack of musical interest deserving a concert to her work is the most schizo post in this thread
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this is one of the most thinly veiled attempts at getting fanbases to shit on eachother I've ever seen
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>>114496656
>you need original music
only if you're a corporate doormat. CCGG are here to change things for the better. They are exceptional
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>>114496676
They are free to go indie, and show em how its done!
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>>114496676
baaaaaaased death to the mori clique
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>>114496248
>>Be euro
>>Life is so good, you have free healthcare
Where you get that idea from? I pay monthly health insurance premiums
>>Spending on idols? You are not stupid, why would you spend money on e-whores
I spend plenty on merch
>>Spending on gacha? You are not stupid, why would you spend money on some stupid game
I play Holodori and would spend on it, if it wasn't for my government blocking payments to gacha games by law
>>Spending on air conditioning? You are not stupid, why would you spend money when you can endure being sweaty and stinky for a couple days.
I shower twice a day, i have a couple fans to keep it extra cool, and my home is isolated against cold and heat. Where did you get indoctrinated like that? Can't be Burgerland. Only SEA seethes this much about Europe
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>>114496664
Bae doesn’t deserve it and CCGG do
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>>114496664
I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it. She clearly does and I also agree with you that CCGG need to release a lot more stuff before they *deserve* a sololive
My point was that the schizo who was trying to holo vs holo Bae and Mori back then, is the same schizo who's currently shitposting about CCGG vs Chadcast, or at least a copycat of it.
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>>114496695
>my government blocking payments to gacha games by law
nigga are you larping as European posting from North Korea
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>>114496689
my man, you really really really dont want them to join the avengers
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>>114496715
They should, itll be over for Cover overnight, what are they waiting for?
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Why does retard always fall back to holo vs holo?
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>>114496727
they live hololive too much unlike gura, fauna, mumei and ame
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>>114496689
>>114496715
>>114496727
>samefag
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>>114496302
What happened to Mori?
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>>114496738
all (You) (me)
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>>114496734
what other option is there?
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Protip: It's a phase phasecuck who is doing the holo vs holo shitposting.
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>>114496689
I'd commit a genocide to see NotCC and Nimi on stage at an Oshispark event, finally the green woman union we never got to see in Holo!
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>>114496710
The BeNeLux and other countries, like France, made anti lootboxing laws to prevent children from being exposed to gambling. Most retarded shit ever. That includes Holodori's gacha. Jyst say you know nothing about Europe, that's fine. I don't know nothing about SEA either other than that you guys are still undeveloped nations
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>>114496512
It's a character associated with a specific RP group OUTSIDE of Hololive. By your logic, ERB's twitch rp randoms also count as hololive
>>114496635
True
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>>114496791
Move CCGG top the top and move Mori and IRyS elsewhere
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>>114496791
>FWMC
>makes music
???
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>>114496791
retarded schizo kys
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>>114496635 (me)
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>>114496805
Did you not watch the podcast?
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>>114496698
That doesn’t make any sense. You can look at Bae’s resume and reasonably say she should have a sololive. Nothing has changed about it since 2024 as of her sololive approval date, Snake Eyes didn’t release yet.
You are being obtuse or just trying to shit on her by implying someone who wants her to have a sololive would think CCGG deserve one.
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>>114496313
how is someone with only 2 original songs (and one of them is a unit song) supposed to do a sololive?

>>114496322
even Subaru still hasn’t done one
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>>114496791
Wait a minute, this is just the Bloodraven flip. He is seething over Nerissa again
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>>114496791
gg two down fwmc two down
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>>114496791
>no EP
Gigi down two
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>>114496838
Nah if it was bloodraven flip, he would shitpost about FWMC too. Dude has a hateboner against advent.
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>>114496836
she can sing covers
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>>114496791
>Nerissa doesn't make music
Damn i must have imagined >>114496574
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>>114492391
https://youtu.be/aqSiyOk04U4
EN songs in the Hololive weekly top 100 August 23-August 29 (1st week songs excluded):
>97) ReawakeR (Hakos Baelz/Chougakusei) - 43,919 views (▼4)
>96) Wicked (Hoshimachi Suisei/Mori Calliope) - 44,487 views (▼22)
>90) Kira Killer (Zutomayo feat. Mori Calliope) - 46,673 views (▲8)
>75) Lagtrain (Cecilia Immergreen) - 50,824 views (▲22)
>74) Love Me Love Me Love Me (Nerissa Ravencroft) - 51,390 views (▼17)
>65) Kaibutsu (FUWAMOCO) - 54,477 views (▼3)
>51) Spotlight (Advent) - 62,825 views (—)
>50) TAKO∞TAKOVER (Ninomae Ina'nis) - 63,731 views (▼1)
>48) ROCK IN! (Koseki Bijou) - 65,017 views (▲16)
>46) KING (Gawr Gura/Mori Calliope) - 65,303 views (▼1)
>42) PSYCHO (Hakos Baelz) - 68,716 views (▼2)
>37) Team Tomodachi (Advent) - 71,638 views (▲10)
>35) BIRDBRAIN (Nerissa Ravencroft) - 77,158 views (▼1)
>31) Ash Again (Gawr Gura) - 83,415 views (▲5)
>27) Way 2 U (Ouro Kronii) - 85,431 views (▲14)
>10) Bad Apple!! (Nerissa Ravencroft) - 155,639 views (▼1)
>9) SNAKE EYES (Hakos Baelz) - 190,421 views (▼1)

New:
>I found me (Hakos Baelz) - 480,324 views
>Hoshikuzu Capsule (short MV) (Ninomae Ina'nis) - 71,438 views

Notes:
Monsters and Men and Carbonated Love fall off the list. Nightbreak (short MV) and Ima Sugu Rinne did not qualify for the list in their first week. Hoshikuzu Capsule (full version) was not added to the list.
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>>114496796
Go make it happen champ, I heard the best way to reach her is the vod YT comments, shes very receptive and will hear you out.
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>>114496791
Move GG and CC up and it's accurate
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>Phasefaggots making up cliquewars while their own talents are throwing each other under the bus.

Are these retards projecting hard?
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>>114496892
>Are these retards
Yes
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>>114496884
>CC appears on the list
>raidbaby irys doesnt
I was right
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>>114496884
I see Spotlight overtook SUPERNOVA SUPER GIRL this week
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>>114496801
What is this logic? It doesn't matter where the character comes from because it was made by ERB FROM hololive. It's HER original song not the twitch randos.
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There should be a sports journalist holo so we can have bomba news and here we go news. Imagine the numbers.
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>>114496911
KEK BASED sololive soon
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>>114496836
I’m almost positive Subaru is being mismanaged or misled by someone. She wants one, has the numbers, has an album, but doesn’t know how to convince management.
Not disagreeing with you, just being frustrated because I want to go to hers
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>>114496791
If we're counting covers then you shouls move shiori up to the orange tier, she has more songs than gigi
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>>114496941
No one knows they exist so nah
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>>114496816
When is the full version it's been over a year?
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>>114496938
>She wants one
She doesn’t.
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>>114496961
Kys sis
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>>114496791
>mori
>music focus
lol
lmao even, she's money focus if it bring in the big bucks she couldn't care less about music. If you've watch mori since debut you would know that with every passing years she's regret making music as a job it's sucked the fun out it for her.
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>>114496635
Then this also doesn't count >>114495820
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>>114496961
She does, her complaint was other girls knowing she should have one and assuming she had one when she didn’t. That’s fucking frustrating for her. Watch streams.
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>>114496361
because normally they never needed them. it's like wondering why mexican houses don't have central heating when the once-in-a-century cold wave hits them.
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>>114496867
she can just join next year’s super karaoke party then
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>>114496825
You are stupid as fuck my guy. You accuse me of trying to vouch for CCGG when your defense implies Mori doesn't deserve her sololives either
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>>114497005
CCGG deserves Bae's spot.....
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>>114496920
>HER original song
It's not an original song. >>114496635 if i build a car and i only built 50% of it. No engine, no seats, no wheels do I have a car? No. If you smith a sword, but you forget the handle, you dont have a sword. You'll only have a blade. If you bake a pizza, but forget all topping, you dont have a pizza. That's just bread
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When hololive debut some real ngubus?
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>>114496999
not trying to be mean here but if your justification for not having 21st century housing is that MEXICO doesn’t either… a shitpost response writes itself
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>>114497005
CCGG deserve bae's and irys' spots actually
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>>114497050
Biboo brown
Bae and Raora not gay
Kronii not troon
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>>114497031
it's just the first "hot" country that came to mind. feel free to find any naturally hot country that does have central heating for some reason. point is, europe is colder on average, why would a country like norway have AC. this heat wave is an unusual one-off.
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>>114497019
??? It's original to her because it's made and sung by her. The length of song doesn't determine the originality of it, is that really hard to understand or am I talking to a wall here?
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>>114497004
no they need sololives
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>>114497031
Europe doesn't need aircon because it's not usually hot enough to warrant it. It's like how people in Alaska don't have aircon either
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You know, it is funny indies like nimi or doki do sololives with barely any orisongs. It is pretty much a glorified karaoke at that point.
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I think Suisei's new song sucks and she should trying to sing english lines
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>>114497103
Cover is braindead to think you need an album for a sololive. People will line the fuck up for an autofister duolive singing Hololive songs
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>>114497103
Well thats why they only sell about 50% of the tickets.
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>>114497103
Indie concerts are pity parties thrown by Oshispark and attended by people that think they're doing social services by hearing a bad singer poorly sing songs.
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>>114497103
and people still go, almost like nobody cares what the sing they just want to go to a concert for the experience or what ever you call it
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>>114497151
>nigga thinks that's because of the lack of songs
Mint can have 100 orisongs and it'll still be half sold out
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>>114497075
for a one-off it’s sure odd it happened twice in a row doing a simple google search turned up 2025 heat wave too
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>>114497130
>>114497160
THIS
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>>114497073
you lost, donie
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>>114497273
You implying Kronii is a troon?
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>>114497160
You usually go to these things to support your oshi, unless you're like a more general tourist
Some people just want to socialize
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>>114497130
>>114497160
Just throw a super karaoke party then. No need a sololive
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>>114496971
BVTM melty
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>>114497079
Again. Half a song is not a song. Nobody, literally nobody, not even your mom considers it her first orisong. NOT EVEN HER FANS (see picrel) Baudol is Fuwamoco's first orisong, not life time show time. You can't just do 50% of the work and call it a day. She did not do a
>wooooo first orisong release
Stream for it. Length of a song doesn't determine whether it is an original song. But what does is whethet it is a finished product or not
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if your oshi sings songs made by other men then you are a cuck
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>>114497335
The girls want to show off their dancing
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>>114496805
they released an album
please buy it
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>>114497048
The topic is sololives and you fuckers still can't talk about the talents individually
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>>114497359
Kek no thanks
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>>114496938
I didn't even know Subaru's discography until I looked it up after a Youtube comment. After seeing it, it's pretty obvious why she doesn't have a sololive yet.
>~0 MVs this year
>~4 MVs last year
>Has shown no inclination towards a music focus, other than just idol activity
The mems that got a sololive (aside from Pekora) grinded hard for it with MVs and songs to increase their music mindshare. Lui, runt as she is, released so much music that her channel got turned into an artist's channel. Go to Suba's channel and there's basically nothing. A few MVs, and that's it. Not even very many videos to diversify her content.
Suba is probably the most streamer-coded large Holo in the entire company. Her album pulling less than 7k with physical sales kinda reinforced this; she probably shouldn't get a sololive before some of the Holos that really grinded their music mindshare beforehand.
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>>114497344
Uhmmm actually the thing with Lifetime Showtime is different because FWMC later released Lifetime Showtime (Perfect Form) and they did consider LTST their first orisong.

Also it's hilarious they called it perfect form
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CCGG is good
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With holodori release you can expect all holos to increase their music output
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>>114497368
>GG takes irys' spot
>CC takes bae's spot
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>>114497385
t. poorfag
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>>114497393
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>>114497410
Why would GG take IRyS's spot? She was never hired as a music focused holo?
Why should CC take Bae's spot? Bae released so many MVs in the road to her sololive. CC has very little in comparison.
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>>114497392
https://www.youtube.com/live/BMM5WLljiqk?t=345
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>>114497385
t. europoor
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>>114497461
people want to see CC and GG, not bae or irys
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>>114497344
But it is finished, can't you not see it on her channel? Just because it's the short version of the song doesn't mean it's not an original. >>114497344
That picrel is not a Rosarian, that person is a grem that probably doesn't realise saltborn existed, just because half of the fandom doesn't know it exists doesn't mean it's not real nor does it question the originality of it.
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>>114497392
>>114497464
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>>114497454
>>114497469
Ok I bought 10 copies
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>>114497359
already did
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>>114497478
No one wants to see gigi
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>>114497344
retarded n*ger
ltst is fwmc's first song that got fucked by management
they consider as their first song regardless of management fuckery
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>>114497479
>But it is finished, can't you not see it on her channel? Just because it's the short version of the song doesn't mean it's not an original
>it's finished
No it aint >>114496816
>just because it is the short version of a song doesn't mean it's not an original
Yes does. It's not finished. The product isn't final
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>>114497555
I have a bridge. You can buy it for really cheap
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>>114497478
>people want to see CC
Good one
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>>114497359
Bought it until it is already sold out
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>>114497479
Full song or it doesn’t count, simple as
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>>114496920
The song is specifically about the twitch rando group she's a part of. ERB has explicitly stated that it's for the RP. It doesn't count as an original. Rosarians don't consider it an ERB original song and just associate it with the random twitch rp. The same way Otomos don't consider "Oh Princess" to be CC's first original even though it's a very direct link to hololive. Also it's a short version
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Fuwawa has a weird definition of "first"
I bet Fuwawa could fuck a thousand men and say you are her first time because you are the first one that wears a condom
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>>114497549
>>114497584
HOLY BOOBERS
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>>114497585
>Good one
Thank you
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>>114497507
based there's a 4 copy limit you liar
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>>114497634
>gigi if bad
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>>114497620
Bought multiple times with different accounts
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>>114497558
Okay let's just say it's not finished, but why would you say it's not an original when it clearly said ORIGINAL in the title. Come on you can't be this daft.
>>114497595
>ERB has explicitly stated that it's for the RP
But does she said it's not her original???
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>>114497478
Not the point of the tier list. The list list is about which Holos actually release music (and which ones are recruited as music Holos), not your imagined popularity list.
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>>114497634
downgrade
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>>114497634
If only
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>>114497663
ok but as long as you know I'm right
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afk
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>>114497662
>does she said
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>>114497687
Nah, the only thing I know for sure is that you don't read.
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>>114497749
stop
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>>114496186
Botan and ruzzians before 3 day operation
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>>114497634
>>114497749
I would sex flat Gigi and Oppai Gigi
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>>114497752
but I'm right
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>>114497662
>why would you say it's not an original when it clearly said ORIGINAL in the title. Come on you can't be this daft.
Just because you say something is what you want it to be, doesn't mean it automatically becomes that thing you eant it to become. Best example? Just because you) say you're a woman doesn't mean you become one when you cut off your dick. Salt Born is alike. Just because you say it's an original, doesn't make it a finished first orisong. For that matter, why has she never performed it in 3D? Surely you'd perform your first 'original'. But no, at Serendipity she performed Ame's original and at All for one she performed a Suisei one. 3D debuts? Also no. Debut at fes? Nope
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>>114497662
>SALT
oh god
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>>114497211
yeah well blame climate change or whatever. i'm not expecting people in florida to build earthquake resistant buildings if they for some reason get a 9.0 scale earthquake one day.
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Damn, the Rosaarian got quiet with that cut off dick example. Must have been an ERBtranny
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>>114476411
i made this post yesterday and it was my first post in /vt/ all last week and i got accused of being one of the people who had been arguing there for like 4 hours in circles lmao this place is great.
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>>114497811
>Why has she never performed in 3D
Because it's barely two minutes, why would you bring 3D performance into account when we agreed it's not finished? And when the creator of the song says it's her and hasn't been proven otherwise, then it's a fact regardless of your arguments.
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Truthnuke
Copying Niji’s stance on this just because they’re more popular in Japan at the moment is a dumb move
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>>114496248
life is actually good. i get over 800€/month +paid rent, healthcare (dental included), public transit, electricity and water as unenployed
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>>114497934
Man they can shut the fuck up. The new rules are nothingburgers and only affect attentionfags
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>>114497934
Cool here is Pekora raping Koshien so hard they had to graduationbait the next day

Also this shit is hilarious
>Please don't wear whore cosplays on events where minors can attend
>HOW DARE YOU
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>>114497634
>>114497749
Gigi's gigis
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>>114497934
The updated guidelines literally only apply to antis and literal whores trying to leech off hololive for their failed only fans.
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>>114497977
>You're supposed to be mad at this
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Just saw a new numbers site
https://logs.holofun.net/talent/UCHsx4Hqa-1ORjQTh9TYDhww
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gigi doesnt have tits you niggers
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Uh oh… buckle up Jailbirds
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>>114497999
Twitter whores and creeps are mad that cover is telling them they can't do creepy groomer shit with hololive fans. No wonder they're never going to be at offkai again, that's the sexpest den.
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>>114497999
That's the problem. The only people who are mad are just attentionfags. Nothing more. It just serves as a filter to grifter cosplayers
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>>114498008
>Avg. per week
EN is in for a rude awakening
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>>114498027
explain this
check mate, atheist
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>>114498036
with Bae
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>>114497977
pekoras tournament could have went way higher if it was only tetris, puyo was awful to watch
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>>114498008
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>>114497934
>NOOOOOOOO WHAT AM I GONNA DO NOW THAT MY COSPLAY WHORE WILL NOT MAKE MORE COSPLAYS OF HOLOLIVE RIDING A DOG DILDO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT THEY MADE YOU POPULAR
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>>114498008
Ever since the first hour chart around January started gaining traction these websites have started popping up and I'm sorry but these are all completely fucking useless.

Hours streamed or stream content is ultimately worthless for data collection purposes and it certainly doesn't need four or five or six different websites doing the exact same. There is no website calculating watch hours, CCV, CCV average, memberships, superchat,s there are only a few calculating sub and sub growth. It feels like these people want to numberfag but feel bad about "bad numbers"
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Can't stop the rock
You can't stop the rock
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>>114498075
They're not even asking you to stop whoreplaying they're just asking you to stop doing it in front of minors
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>>114497103
>Nimi or Doki
>Sololives
When?
Karaokes at some pub / bar venue aren't sololive and OshiSpark only gave them concerts
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>>114498102
ok, which con was it that made cover to update their guidelines?
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>>114498102
>>114497934
>>114498075
What exactly are they mad about? Cover isn't saying you can't do lewd cosplays. Just don't be like one of those retarded attentionfag cosplayers who make out excessively in public or sell "feet juice" and you're safe. Actual nothing burger oh my days
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>>114498138
Probably Offkai.
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Did the chadcast mv seriously not have any kanapooru """animations"""? Is holoen finally learning?
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>>114497947
Well at least that's better than being homeless I guess? idk sounds like a shit life
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>>114497930
>barely two minutes
Never been an issue. They performed the pokemon dance 2 years ago in a New Years countdown which is even shorter.
>why bring 3Ds into this
If you had a first original, you'd perform it in 3D
>And when the creator of the song says it's her and hasn't been proven otherwise, then it's a fact regardless of your arguments.
If i make a pair of shoes, and wear them on my hands they don't magically become gloves. Just because she says X, doesn't mean it's a finished, whole original song. >>114496816 she said herself that there will be a full version. Fun fact, the short version is not even released on her spotify. ANOTHER FUN FACT, IT'S NOT EVEN ON HOLOLIVE'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE AS ORIGINAL SONG https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/music/
NOT EVEN ON HER FUCKING PAGE https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/talents/elizabeth-rose-bloodflame/
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>>114498057
Kronii is standing behind her
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>>114498186
how so? i get stuff paid for and do not need to spend my time in work
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>>114498066
Pekora will never get rid of Puyo because of SEGA and Marine.
They can at least ban frog stacking. It’s such an awful way to play the game.
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>see ollie retweet that new holo video tracking website
>click out of curiousity
>front page is literally covered in homostars mixed with hololive
>close immediately
what did I expect?
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>>114498142
They're mad because Cover is asserting their right as the IP holder and think Cover is going full Disney because Cover doesn't want whores and scammers to use their IP for profit.
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>>114498138
100% offkai and anime expo there were FUWAMOCO cosplayers offering to step on people and drink juice off their feet. It made mainstream news.
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>Ina not in gooner
>Gura not in pervert
Does this motherfucker even watch streams outside of jacking it to 3D kronii's tits and homobegging?
https://x.com/BorosIsSTRONG/status/2094394700140597720
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>>114498314
What even differs a pervent from a gooner?
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>>114498080
>>114498292
Oh yeah that's the other thing.

Like half of these websites are blatant homoshill content, doing le HoloPro unity when Cover have not considered the Homos as part of Hololive Production for almost a year by now. The calendar ones are very in your face at trying to get you to watch the Homos.
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>>114498328
Pervert is someone who makes dirty jokes even if occasionally and has a dirty mind
Gooner is a step further into doujinshi and fujo territory. GG would also fall into gooner now that I think about it
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>>114498369
Oh, and remove Fauna. She was a basic bitch anime watcher, she doesn't belong in the gooner tier
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>>114498142
The last line in the second clause, I suppose
>Cosplay activities conducted n a manner suggestive of R-18 content are also strictly prohibited
No more holo-cosplay sex or sex photos which probably bring a decent amount of money and attention
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>>114498314
fwmc and bae to gooner, fauna can go outside she's a normie, kiara into pervert, and gura and ina where you place them and it's tolerable placement
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go ahead cover try banning porn of your talents like that horse game and see how far that gets you
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>>114498391
It only affects whores and their simps so nothing of value was ever lost.
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>>114498328
Nothing
Gooner is just the gen alpha slang for pervert
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>>114498314
This is so wrong
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>>114498391
literally all it's saying is follow the law and rules set out by events you may be attending, nothing about strict prohibition of lewd or R18 cosplay
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>>114498402
I can agree with this
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>>114498457
Those are 4 different clauses (some have multiple different requests / restrictions, too). The one that said to follow the laws and the rules set out by events you are attending is just the first one. The other 3 aren't supplementary, they are additions to that.
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>>114498391
Everything in that line refers to "public order and morals", essentially
>whatever is not legal to do is not legal to do while in Hololive cosplay
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>>114498492
This also nips another problem in the bud which is the fact that minors are fucking stupid at using the Internet and they have let themselves get groomed (or faked accusations of SA) for far too long.

Right now there is a scandal on the Uma community because some indonesian kid faked an entire story of abuse and human trafficking.
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>>114498314
>Fuwawa not a gooner
you know she slicks that bean while sniffing Mococo's panties in the bathroom
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>KFP have to endure their oshi watching and talking about capeshit for like a full year to come now
>all the time every week

Holy grim
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>>114498492
It's just a bunch of legal to also cover them and put all the blame on the individuals for misusing/misrepresenting their IP if it does turn into something criminal or unsavory.
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>>114498586
holodiscords are in shambles...
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>>114498578
Heh it's only until Kiara finds something else that interests her.
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>>114498578
>SEAposter
>actually pretending to hate marvelslop
lol
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>>114496927
Mori is a big Aerithhead, she just didn't want to attach herself to Nerissa in that moment
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>>114494025
everyone on twitter was going crazy for the return of CHADcast
what happened
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>>114498578
Good thing KFP dont exist and nobody watches Kiara
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>>114498794
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone on twitter
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>>114498794
You showing up 5 hours late to bite your own bait
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>>114498820
?

no i just woke up
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>>114498794
GG mention hakka and flayon
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>>114498854
SNOTfags didn't like this one
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>>114498866
In your head xis
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>>114497050
IRyS showers every day
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>>114498794
Despite what twittertroons say, CCGG >>>>>>> baerys
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>>114498794
JP hours are not going to get you crazy numbers.
>Mori's last JP hours stream got 8,785
>IRyS' last JP hours stream got 3,881
>Bae's last JP hours stream (that wasn't her birthday) got 4,470

Even if back in the day Chadcast worked in JP times, the people most interested in Chadcast right now, August 31st 2026, are going to be NA.
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>>114498983
>FWMC 10k
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>>114498983
fuwamoco got 50k in jp hours
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>>114499004
>Non members of chadcast
Retard
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>>114498983
sounds like an IRyS and Bae issue.
Nerissa got 8k
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>>114497634
>>114497749
>>114497995
the Gigers
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I'm only here to visit the zoo, so I always forget that you guys actually talk about numbers sometimes and it's always the stupidest shit I ever read
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>>114498983
>IRyS' last JP hours stream got 3,881
this is what happens when nobody raids the raidbaby..............
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>>114499035
Don't get upity with me, Moco-chan
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>>114499035
it's only shitposts, even if it happens to have numbers included
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>>114499004
>>114499007
Yes, the people who have spend 3 years of their career serving as the bridge between EN and JP, they have worked hard to gain their JP audience and they are in essence the representatives of HoloEN in Japan.

But that is not what will happen to all other 12 members of HoloEN. Kiara, Raora, Biboo, Elizabeth, they get below average results and that's no problem, they haven't spent years joining JP streams, talking in Japanese, releasing merch for Japanese people, etc etc etc.
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>>114498314
Gura was always lusting after lolis on her streams
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>>114498983
>IRyS' last JP hours stream got 3,881
>Bae's last JP hours stream (that wasn't her birthday) got 4,470
Sololives in Japan btw KEKYPOW
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>>114498036
it's sad when their only value is interactions with hololive...
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>>114499078
daredemo faggots in japan will go to any JP sololive and fill it up if it's less than 8k seats
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>>114496791
If you showed this image to Nerissa she would actually kill herself
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>>114498314
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>>114499127
Trans right
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>>114498866
she did not, you lying troon
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>>114498983
I thought you niggas told me IRyS was popular?
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>>114499146
Based troontomo
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>>114499146
what did the long bacon do to you?
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>>114498983
wait wait wait wait WAIT
>You're telling me the rapper is popular in Japan then the two people who panders to JP?
GRIM GRIM GRIM GRIM



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