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>>114654091Nimi won in the end
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There will never be a new primarily English speaking talent in Hololive.I'm not joking. I'm not trolling. I'm not shitposting. I am dooming but I am dooming accurately.The girls that have an English fanbase they cater to is all we'll ever get. It only shrinks from now on.
>>114654091Actual landfill garbage OP
Kiara is going to venthttps://x.com/takanashikiara/status/2096965431663722871
Nimi won
FWMC will never interact with EN again outside corpo mandated collabs kiara will further isolate herself CC will continue to not stream
>>11465409227 people graduated after the mergers, if that happened to HoloEN+HoloID there would literally be no more members.
Apologize RIGHT NOW.
I SHOULD BE OVER ALL THE BUTTERFLIESBUT I'M INTO YOU(I'M INTO YOU)
>Spend years shitting on JP chads for being tribalistic>No holo vs holo!>EN and ID become Hololive>Noooo our identity!I see how it is
Kekhttps://x.com/nerissa_en/status/2096964796747055586
>>114654178Agreed
>>114654169too flat
>>114654219We're only angry because this obviously means we're not getting any new English speaking talent. JP won.
>/#/ Expectations: THD!>Reality: Hololive EN and ID are dead.Karma?
>>114654091They outlived HoloEN
I would rather not use any of these threads but this one doesn't have scott in it
>>114654217Nimi and Shachi...
>>114654220Yeah Advent is pretty ecstatic about it, even if 2 out of 5 members know jackshit about Japanese and Shiori's Japanese is pretty meh they're happy about it because why wouldn't they, it's a bigger budget and new managers for free
>>114654178probably
>>114654091BASED
IT'S NOT A WALK IN A PARKTO LOVE EACH OTHER
>>114654291shiiet, this will have some good clips
This is good for your EN oshiBad if you wanted a new EN gen, though
>>114654291cmon KFP you know you wanna leak what she says
So EN and ID got shut down and the boys still going strong. Sucks to cuck.
>>114654259There is no good English speaking talent left. Gura, Sana, Fauna all complete duds who pump and dumped. Western women have zero work ethic
>Now you remember Mori's break/protest in May and how she said that "things weren't the same as 5 years ago" and how she was really trying hard to push for a new EN gen before this happened
kek she can't even beg for holoen to be involved because they don't exist anymore lol
>>114654291Suit up kfp
>>114654317based
>>114654178
>>114654267At least one of them is showing no sign of life, though...
>>114654178Truth supernova
>>114654091>they were rightFudge. At least there's the memories.
>>114654359Mkri you need to put the tank of copium done. This isn't healthy
So when will Mori graduate?2027? 2028?
>>114654291oof
>>114654431Oh no no no no
>>114654351I was going to say fuwamoco but they're basically jpfags now
>>114654291>Grad Bait imageYeah it's a wrap
So, what happens to the girls in training? Do they still get their shot?
>>1146544292028
You have to admit this does hurt holos global outreach, now western companies that want to collaborate might be put off when they look up hololive they'll just see that it's a japanese company whereas before there was a clear english they could point to
We’re all in the other thread btw anons
kfp not taking it well
>>114654538>kiaraschizo is over there I'll stay here thanks
>>114653998>I LOVE MY HOLOLIVE FAMILYHolokeks..
>>114654263>warn people that cutting costs and not being able to float garbage should be a little concerning>tell them that Mori's addendum of "IF" there's a concert next year should raise a few alarms>get called a beggar despite hating the homos woth every fiber of my being and wanting them SHUTTERED not bled outI demand a fucking apology, stupid niggers blinded by THD while cover was slowly sticking the knife into the foreign branches
>>114654359>hololive anime featuring ONLY JP!>and no haachama >also everyone is just hololive now but we're not including the foreigner runts in stuff like this teehee...
>>114654664This gives them more opportunities according to Mori, though?
>>114654521Pretty much dead in the water as a "western" entity, yeahBut JP stuff like DB and One Piece have been getting american deals recently so who knows, maybe they'll manage
>>114654720Mori is huffing more copium than a fucking homo fans right now
I think it's fair for fans and the girls themselves to be upset about 'erasing the identity and history' of the branches, but frankly everything else seems like a positive to me
>>114654091>little lore drop with orc>doesnt stream>doesnt stream>doesnt stream
>>114654803There were signs much earlier too with getting rid of the EN and ID Minecraft servers.
>>114654664your homos arent included in any of the news lol, no wonder you beggars are mad and trying to look for angles kek
>>114654846>melty
>>114654091https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7ATHREAD THEME
>>114654259all you EN5 fuckos can finally wither awayKEK
>>114654359does she know anime has seasons?
Can I get Miko here?
Wawa is crying....
Kiara introduced herself as Hololive Myth and her voice cracked lmao
>walks into the threadDon't mind me, just fulfilling my rights of a NIJIGOD WINNER>pisses into holonigger losers' throatsAahhhhhhh, that's better>leaves the thread
I agree with Ollie and Kiara and the other livers who are upset about this. Cover is being a black company and ignoring their livers feelings. I think a strike should happen where they don't stream to show solidarity against this.
confirmed cock hungry holos?
>>114654359This is sad for mori, having to lick jap boots for a crumb
ukraine war starts.>Germany loses 500k manufacturing jobs because of fuel/energy costs.>russia blocks Odessa from allowing major grain exports and higher food prices in Europe.>hololive stops doing business with Europe.Remember to thank your politicians kiara.
>>114655949Most of the antis who harassed your fanbase hates idol culture remember?
the more important thing to discuss as the most INFLUENTIAL thread of the internet, so this surely DQ HoloEN from the EN tally since now it merged into Hololive right?
What did I miss? What happened to holopro and da boys?
>Kiara first song>Should I leave
This announcement really summoned that retards who autistically refuse to accept change. "It's Twitter. It's Lake Ontario. It's Gulf of Mexico. It's Hololive EN!"
>>114656037its fine, she's used to it
Obviously the girls knew this was coming. Why didn’t they say nothing before now?
>>114656197they're going to announcing their merger soon with graduation
>>114656309All the serendipity doomposting was about this.
Can’t wait for all the dramatubers to talk and speculate about this throughout the day.
>>114656367>oh noes we're losing our identity as a failing branch
>>114656367Oh yeah, no more EN concerts, huh.
>>114656401How bad is the state of vtubing if the top branch in the entire industry is considered failing?
>>114656309If they don't follow orders they owe cover alot of money
Analyzing Kiara comments, seems like she is mostly upset about losing the brand, nothing she said was a real negative outside of nostalgia
>>114656492Yeah, she's pretty much just complaining about how much Hololive ENGLISH meant to her and the other girls, so far nothing has been said about what it means for support and opportunities going forward
>>114656492This. It really seems like a lot of the girls are just scared of change.
I wonder if this merge means Shiori will have to ditch her fiance in order to move to Japan, or will she stubbornly stick to the US at the cost of having even less support
>>114656688they won't be forced to move to Japan, Kronii already said there are 0 plans for that.
>>114656716no but they get to sit in the corner until they quit
>>114656716sad fan art on white background thumbnail soon
>Kiara ugly crying
>>114656458You idiots thought vshojo was stable. Numbers are the dumb moron side of Hololive tower.
>>114656688she hasn't said anything in days, she's probably pissed
So anons, is ollie graduating or what?
>>114654952She’s taking it well huh. Guess that’s why she was part of the presentation.
>>114657054god isn't that merciful
>>114657285ina understand how those lazy white EN managers were compared to the JP ones
Reminder that there were no numbers indicating this.
What will be the script for the round of pressers tomorrow? From fubuki, asakoyo, mio, miko, lui…
>wake up>see THE newsfeels good
>>114654890>Homo EN still Homo EN with all the scratches it has>Holo EN and ID now have to play along with jp against their willGraduations incoming
>>114657751>Kiara confirmed they were told about the merger in July>Immediately after the Serendipity flop concert
>>114654359So are they just forbidden from saying hololive english ever again now?
recycling, not the nimi thread
Opinions are like assholes, only mine is good
all this shit show for things that will remain the same just with different names..
>>114657813>shiori>fiancewhat
Back to pre 2020 days
>>114657634judging from the youtube comments the casual normie audience are all optimistic, but I wonder if Kiara's meltdown will change that
I think the only unnecessary thing Cover did here is to force the talents to drop their branch names from their handle/descriptions.You can eliminate the branches just fine without touching those handles honestly
I'm not using the N*mi thread
>>114657849Yeah? Bend over, cupcake
>>114656716You're right, they have the choice to leave or continue working. Anyone not in the office in Japan isn't going to get picked for anything now that all the management is consolidated in japan.
EN5 never everID4 never ever
>>114657849pics or it didn't happen
>>114657785Moris music is global anyway streaming is a side thing for her there's no audience per say if you are talking about streaming audience then no.
>nothing but dead or botted chuuba OPsJust schizo antis samefagging for hours
Who is winning?
they knew BTW
>>114657887You guys would be so mad if I did
Brazilian Holo Soon?
This can't be described as anything but a massive unforced error. The EN/ID/JP branding, market segmentation and per-region focus they already had was a major asset, and they're trying to burn it to the ground for no reason. They already had all the cross-branch collabs and marketing they needed, and the branches' needs and climates vary enough that separate management is a necessity.The right move was to lean into it further and fix the issues with e.g. overseas events and product shipping, and to do any smoothing between the branches on a purely internal level. And if anything was wrong with ID in particular, fix it there.And Kiara is already proving this is the wrong move with how unhappy it's made her.
So what are the stats? Who do we have dooming vs who do we have optimistic about the change?
>be the shitter of a 15-person branch>have to wait in 15th position on queue to get anything>now be the shitter of a 65-person branch>have to wait in 65th position on queue to get anythingI understand Kiara's seething. She still kinda deserves it tho
>>114657886Funnily enough on the application Japanese is now required with English and other languages being "business level" as a nice to have
We are NOT using a Nimi thread for #
JP should be merged with DEV_ISEN should be merged with IDWhat's so hard about it cover
>>114656492All Kiara has going for her is being 1st gen EN member and now Cover took that away.
>>114657896The Japanese holos, everyone else lost.
>>114657863Yeah, it's me (trans).
>>114657903my weenie would twitch a little
I BLAME OMEGA
>>114657849>advertising your asshole
The verdict
>>114657786No, they're honest about the company. Remember Ina's visa issues? She dealt with that extremely professionally, being very careful to not implicate Cover too much. I love Ina but I wouldn't expect her to be truly transparent if the Cover situation was dire. But I can trust Kiara 100%.
>>114657871They aren't allowed to deadname the branches either which is fucking retarded. They can only say 'members of hololive' etc now. Which is great when audiences won't even know what language talents speak because they're forced to pretend all members are equal. And now when someone complains that they want to see more "hololive members" in something and JP ones get added over EN/ID they have to pretend to be happy because that's what they asked for, right?
>>114657896Hololive
shutting down two branches will make everything better logic is so retarded>>114654091they got out at their peaksmart
>>114657767>>114657772truth
Hololive won
I prefer the branch + numbering system better than whatever unit names they'll have
>>114657874I can't bake because I'm already at max threadsMaybe you guys should make your own OPs
I noticed none of the holostars were included in the mergeDoes that mean they will finally be killed in 365 days?
>Kiara saying she'll get in trouble for a deleted members streamManagement has no idea what happens on members. Pic related.
>nijiEN and phase somehow out lived HoloEN
idgi are mergers a bad thing?
So is this what led to the mass graduations in the past 2 years, have they seriously been planning this for that long lmao
>>114657871what's funny is that im 90% they're still gonna address them as "EN talents" or "ID talents"
>>114657936Iofi is positive? The heck?
>>114657936Seems accurate. What did zeta say?
>>114657910>with how unhappy it's made her.But she didn't provide a reason to be upset about it.
>>114654267>Saba coming back soon>Shachi is a full vtuber again>Kiki about to return>BasedaPoya close to returning>Mori traded Ens for Indiechads for her anniversary show>HoloEN is no moreMan we AvengerChads won so fucking hard today!
>>114657936put ina and nerissa in total en death
Is Nijisanji winning?
I don't think anyone here really realizes that Hololive ENGLISH is dead. Like forever. Like no new English Gens.
Branches aren't gens
>>114657919Pretty much. I thought even merging ID/EN was a stupid schizo rrat but saw mild value in focusing International efforts into one branch and the local Japan one in the main branch. But forcing everything under the main umbrella just means that the nip managers in charge will just continue operating like they had been and giving JP members opportunities while now ignoring the EN/ID they are supposed to also be responsible for. EN/ID already complained about having no support and that was when they had managers and staff specific to their smaller branches. Now they have to try to get heard in a sea of 60+ talents? good fucking luck, kek.
https://x.com/gigimurin/status/2096951352236912859
>>114657981it's historically a bad thing, but so far most of the talents are looking forward to it except for Kiara and Ollie
>>114657964isnt that normal? like that's what lube is for
>>114658008we've been dooming about this for 2 threads now
>>114657980>poop and shit somehow outlived diarrhea
>>114657962you do they made that nifty timer to see when homos are expelled
>>114657928>Wants to see men's assholeYou know that there are women out there that would fuck you, right?
>>114657981it depends on how it plays out. don’t listen to shitposters trying to bait and wait and see how it goes.
>>114658012Units aren't gens either
>NijiEN outlasted HoloEN
>>114657936the IDs are mad because they're the ones gutting fucked the most, they really won't be a particular priority at all anymore
>>114657984Kiara said the talents learned about the merger this July
So was Mori's "strike" really about the merger? if so what did she actually accomplish if it was?
>>114658008yeah no one cares. mori and kiara confirmed it too
>>114657981All I know IDs are dooming because they're very nationalistic so they're losing their identity
>>114657981Imagine you had two houses then sold one and put all the stuff from it in the closets/shed of the remaining one.
>>114658034i do not have that much money for hoes
>>114658053NijiEN wins just like that
Can /vt/ merge into Holotower it will be better for our brand
>>114657912Hey hey, she’s above ID (except kaela??), RBC, Choco, Ririka, flare???, aki, chammers, matsuri….She’s is the middle. Its much worse. Kek
>>114658034I know but I'm not picky
>>114657861i think most ppl are somewhat "ok" with this because it was a full mergeif it were to be only ID/EN then boy i would've been doomposting REALLY hard
>>114657981a bad thing for nijisanji at least
>>114658049cover stopped using gens starting with holoen debuts, but people kept calling them gens for some reason
>>114658023
>>114658077we may as well go back to /jp/
Kiara just needs a good punch to the throat and she'll stop being upset
This is the fastest vt has been since the post-hack
>>114657964>TIL there are normal people in Holo
Her and ame were truly ahead of their time they saw the ship was sinking and bail.
>>114658075>nijiEN>winsy-yeah...
>>114657936>All those who were displeased at the jp homos getting unalived at the topIs something happening?
>>114658102These people are so weird
Hololive wonUnicorns wonI won (did nothing)
HOLO EN AND HOLO ID TO THE BACK OF THE BUS ALL RESOURCES GO TO JP FIRST
>>114657919holo asiaholo americaholo europeholo africa
>>114658054not only that but they potentially have more oversight now (rules/restrictions) whereas before the ID team just let them do whatever they wanted.
>play low and slow for years>competition kills itselfFucker was playing 4d chess the entire time
>>114658102Kfpiss really are retarded
>>114658053>horseshit outlasted dogshit
Kiara should take a step back and think just how much shit cover allows her to do and how much shit she gets away wit hand CALM THE FUCK DOWN Dooming is the least helpful thing you can do. If you fuck up atmosphere of your streams and fuck up morale of your supporters (like homos did) it will only lead to stagnation... She should be hopeful and hype things up instead...
>>114658008>>114658063That's what I don't understand, why don't the others members care that the brand has been killed off? This is only for Japan.
>>114658136Bot reposting old content.
>>114658068what if the second house was a putrid shithole and the main one was a mansion?
>>114658143Uhh yeah sure
Your only chance of seeing your EN oshis perform starting next year is flying to fes in Japan or traveling to tokyo, taiwan or kuwa lumpur for the world tour stop. Pay up, support the girls EN fans!
You've had over 6 years to learn japanese. If you still haven't gotten to the level of being able to enjoy holoJP streams you have no one but yourself to blame.
Who's coping?
>>114658102See? She's already fucking it up. Next he';ll be like I'll support her AFTER she graduates LMAO
So is this why Kiara especially but also Kronii have been upping up rm shit, because they don’t live in Japan so they’re basically letting one foot out the door lmao. Good fucking riddance, Hololive will be better off without their whores and their cuck fans. Kiara has her “brother” and Kronii gymbro anyway
>>114658061She wanted the merger to happen so she doesnt get treated unfairly against jps like perms,merch cut etc
>>114658102these sorta people are no better than beggars, supporting hololive means supporting your oshi retard, if she graduates fine but while she's there root for the group
>>114658111Gura orchestrated the hack to mask and divide the melties to smaller groups. That shit was smart.
Is it possible for kiara to transfer to studio stellar?
>>114658143was pippa imploding with a yab part of his master plan?
>>114658077almost all threads except /#/ are already allowed there or already exist therethe merge already happened
>>114658156she’s always been like this. we’re talking about a woman that cried about being last to hit 1 million subs in myth.
>>114658176>/#/s has to compare phase JP to holo now because EN is gone kek
>>114658172You've repeated yourself far more than I have, I will have to do that post a thousand more times to match up with the raid
generations are still a thing arent they? I don't understand the sperging
>>114658176Oh and she's getting engined too lol
>>114658156>I wish vtubers lied to my face more often
>>114658102Woooow check out this badass!! No one cares faggot.
>>114658143>play low and slow for yearshe's still playing low
So EN concerts are dead for good? or it will be HOLOLIVE concerts in murica now?
Who's seething?
I feel nothing, I abandoned holo en months ago, indies are better
>>114658102the average kfp
>>114658235kfp
For me the worst part about EN/ID concerts being kill is that now fes and sololives will be the only major concerts that we will get streaming/bluray versions of. None of the convention or world tour performances are ever streamed or released outside of those events so all of the days and weeks talents spend on that is really for a one off thing that is forgotten. We won't ever have a chance to show off the talents of EN/ID separately. They just get a song or two buried behind everyone else on one half day of fes and that's it.
>>114658218>gaining mindshare with the Niji audienceit's all according to plan
>>114658143Meanwhile in reality
>>114658220lied about what? she should change her retarded mindset of being a stuck up bitch
>>114658143he was playing that one retard from that one movie who turned out to actually be super smart
>>114658217it's units now the main concern is that there aren't gonna be any mainly english speaking ones anymore. yeah we have the english audition page we're totally gonna use pinky swear
>>114658191>but also Kroniretardgodchama...
>>114658250meh
Merger or no merger, I still get to imagine Pizzatime having sex, therefore I won.
>>114658175If things were going good you would repair/rennovate the shithole.
>>114658156>concerts>music release>streamingshe could do all that shit a indie at this point you don't really need a big corpo to do it
>>114658232girls would be less sad if that were the case
>holokeks refuse to share the mountain >holokeks lost the mountain kekeypow
>>114658181God, I hope this means less appearance by terrible singers (roara and shiori) and instead have others come in and actually have a good concert
Serenflopidty keks, what happened to all that cope about “the company doesn’t care if it didint sell out.”
Cover has killed Hololive EN, I no longer have a reason to fight or anything to defend. I'll probably just quietly fade away.
>>114658232technically the concerts have always had at least a couple of ID/JP guests, this change has nothing to do with concerts.
>>114658232Completely dead. Mori said going forward it would only be world tour type things where a small mix of JP/EN/ID travel to a few spots to perform at conventions and stuff each year.
>>114658271nah she's too pathetic and unpopular to do anythingbut that's not what I'm talking about
>>114658261Kroniecuck…
now the #1 EN vtuber group and outlives Holo EN
>>114658232Yes it will be Hololive concerts in America featuring American favorite talents such as "War rabbit" and "Ahoy hag" will you be there anon?
All is quiet on the western frontNo one wants to watch your shit, bro.
>>114658253>Meanwhile in reality
Lets see if this move of hers will funnel people to her RM. most likely not, her fugly RM face is 1000 levels below her holo model. People will just be disappointed.
>>114657911>DoomingMoona, Kiara, Ollie>OptimisticMori, Nerissa, Ina, FWMC, Iofi, Zeta, Kobo>Both doomer and optimisticReine8 positives vs 4 doomers so far
https://x.com/dizzy_senpai/status/2096952896273142269>Sakura Miko Project -> Hololive (Success)>INNK -> Hololive (Success)>Project Hope -> CouncilRys (Success)Cover has a great track record on merging, kiara and ollie is just worried they would go from a small fish in an appropriately small pond to the smallest fish in a large pond.
>>114658111Every BVTM fag that doesn't watch Hololive woke up
I guess this was the answer to this question >>114627196
>>114658251>the Niji audiencelol see>>114658253
So why haven't they deleted the hololive english and hololive indonesian twitter accounts yet?
>>114658277you lost, napling
eh once EN stopped being such a lucrative cash cow like during COVID it was inevitably going to happen
Can you at least send your funny schizos when you raid out thread? The ones you have now are just fucking stupid.
are people not optimistic enough that if the first season of the anime is a success that they will do a 2nd season with BOTH EN & ID members?jesus doomers always make shit worst for optimistic people
Who's happy?
>>114658232Its over anon. Concert in japan, taiwan, hk and sea, sure but america?
Just to be clear, majority of us here are rooting for Kiara right?
>merger>is just a restructuring. All talents complained about Management being ineffective, the obvious problem is that management has been fragmented >Yagoo announced that he himself will be managing all talent.I don't see the problem because the pattern these shiteaters are comparing this to is to Game Companies merging and developers being laid off as a result., That already is the big difference. In the game example, management is staying , the talent suffers. In hololive's case, it's the reverse.
Can we finally admit that Serendipity was a massive flop?
I won the hardest
>>114658310>will you be there anonlol no
>>114658250Honestly EN concerts were the only thing that kept me in the general Holo loop, if they're gone I don't think I'll keep giving a shit about anything but my oshi. >no 5th EN concert doomposters were right>"ID is next" doomposters (homobeggars) were right
>>114658270considering all started badly since the beginning i think is for the best to just start againlike i doubt EN want another omegay managing them with retarded interns pushing homoshit on everyone's faces
>>114658341Because they turning them into translation accounts for now
>>114658335they will now join as hololive (16) or whatever the fuck
>>114658342Really I lost? Reminder me what’s happening to Hololive right now again you coping cuck
>>114658324>merging>literally renaming from one thing to another in each of your examplesDo you know what the term means?
>>114658250>>114658261Retards who talk about talents but don’t watch streams and only follow clips, dramafags, and xitter bait, should be executed on sight.
>>114658199Korone will do that before her
>>114658318notice how all the optimistic are people living in japan or are about to live there>Reineshe's rich she could care less
>>114658341they will use it to show more "unified" content in translated into hose languages, which is feeding the EOP abandonment rrat
>>114658359That's why I brought up this >>114657671
>>114657981>loss of branch identity>reduced discoverability>overshadowed by jp talents>reduced regional marketing>loss of cultural marketing>fewer EN/ID only eventsBefore the merge EN and ID had a stronger organizational justification for asking for EN and ID gibs but now more of those requests can potentially be evaluated against the needs of the entire hololive rostertldr - now they will compete directly with first army for resources
>>114658324it's not like their viewers will suddenly jump to JPs lol
>>114658291kinda felt like that for awhile myselfThe hololive I fell in love with died awhile ago, but it's still off putting to see it made sort of official.
>>114658253>>114658313How old are these charts?
>>114658393KEK
>>114655715>>114655736>>114655777>Yes Karen I am here outside cover corp and there are still few people shouting THD without realizing it's still also means total Holo death. The sheer buffoonery from these imbeciles might fuel the next charge of attack on hololive girls. They are still ignoring the fact that merger also means id and low end en girls will get absolutely shafted to the corner and the staff is going to bear more stress which will lead to even more project delays. They chants of THD are getting louder because according to them anyone who tries to make sense of why THD chant should be replaced with something better leads to you getting pelted and called a beggar because the folks are totally mental.>This Mathew Stevens reporting live for channel 5 back to you Karen.... Wait I'm getting another info that a certain bird might pull Selen over cover soon but this is just a rumour being spread but who knows it might become true
>>114658304absolute retardgochama...
>>114658351Can't wait for them to complain about having to record voice lines and canceling all their streams after they complained that they're not in the anime if that happens
>>114658379*SEPTEMBER 7TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*>11,699: Calliope (Hololive English)>9,191: Bijou (Hololive English)>6,816: Nimi (Indie)>5,833: Baelz (Hololive English)Guess we're doing circles now. Gold for Mori Calliope's watchalong of Hololive Next, Silver for Koseki Bijou's playthrough of Onimusha Way of the Sword, Bronze for Nimi Nightmare's playthrough of Darkest Dungeon.NOTICE: The EN Tally will continue as it is (the English Chat Ratio rule comes really handy now) including Hololive English members as Hololive English. In case any new Hololive member (per example the new Asobi gen) speaks English and fulfills the English Chat Ratio rule she will be added individually as part of the English Tally. In case the entire new Hololive generation speaks English and fulfills the ECR rule, all four or five will be added to the English tally.>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)Calliope = 11pBijou = 8pKronii = 6pBaelz = 5pGigi = 3pIRyS = 2pIna'nis, Nimi, Clio = 1p
>>114658379nta but right now Hololive is thriving and the EN girls won
>>114658143Did they reach holo numbers?
Apologize
>>114657981Yes, they always are.
>>114658296Its a good thing for those guests that will be used just for the pull. Atleast put them in front of the posters. Subaru, watame, miko, and whoever else.
>>114658359regional branch falling under main branch management is rarely ever a positive sign in corpo world
Reminder that Justice literally killed HoloENI won't let Justchads forget this
>>114658250>>114658383 (me)Wrong reply, please ignore.
Serendipity was in July, Kiara said they were told about the merger in July. So that seals it, Serendipity being a flop is what sealed this entire thing lmao. Nice branch you got there holofaggots
>>114658425sex with married women
>>114658415>why THD chant should be replaced withNobody cares about this, beggars and antis are known for being unoriginalTOTAL HOMO DEATH
>:D
>>114658425from racist piece of shit that did not want to be collague with IDs and japs
https://x.com/shirakamifubuki/status/2096991068688622058KEK SHE'S SO BASED
>>114658421Cool cool, again remind me what’s happening to the EN branch right now you coping retard
>>114658077/#/ is the homobranch of chuuba discussion
>>114657939>I love Ina but I wouldn't expect her to be truly transparent if the Cover situation was dire. But I can trust Kiara 100%.Cover is giving out visual model redesigns it doesn't take a genius to understand why Ina is optimistic with the overall change. Kiara is losing the EN branch identity and that is hitting her like an isekai truck. Kiara is fairly isolated in Europe when management is now focusing exclusively on Japan.
>>114658347Those are your own shitposters, we're busy being raided by gloating Nijifags
>>114658415>Melting the fuck down because the Homos are legally deadMaybe they should merge with LinkedIn to find new jobs
>homoEN outlived holoENhomoGODS we're here to stay
Why am I seeing the exact same posts being repeated in the last few threads with slightly different wording over and over and over?
>>114658473They're thriving
>>114658437Except when the regional management was shit to begin with.
>>114658359>Yagoo announced that he himself will be managing all talent.I legitimately don’t have faith in yagoo, he’s been responsible for alot of problems Although I still don’t think this merger actually means anything
>Hololive JP - humans and normal animals>Hololive EN - Gods, concepts and animals with super powers>Hololive ID - random shit >Hololive Dev_IS - regular women in their 20s, nothing elseWhat will the new design convention be? Considering the mekkers, will every new Holo just be regular women in their 20s from now on?
just had a really satisfying piss AMA
>80+% of holodoris revenue comes from asia >serendipity flopped >ENs stream numbers objectively worse than pre graduation wave the merger was 100% a corpo decision due to being a public company.
>>114658138A TRILLION MORE YEN TO PEKORA AND MIKO CLIQUES FIRSTENGLISH WHO?
>>11465846050% tickets sold, 30% her average CCV last year
>>114658422Is this the new cope? Wonder if you retards will still go on about “winning” after the next wave of graduations
>>114658473I mean, they're still going to beat the ever loving shit out of Nimi
>>114658522Anon Hololive won
>>114658351By the time a 2nd season is decided, Studio Kai will likely be shut down. They've been operating in the red for the past 9 quarters (posted a loss of $5mil USD last year)
>>114658313In reality(though I guess this is outdated now)
If the merge means smaller EN-specific management.That means there won't be anyone restricting IRyS or anyone else from talking about traps, lolis, AI chat, or any potentially hot button cultural issues in the EN sphere.That also means there won't be anyone restricting any talent from playing something like Harry Potter if they wish to.If you enjoy hololive because you are tired of the cultural environment of western internet culture, then post merge would be a better holoEN for you since they will essentially not care about those things.
>>114658515which nijipig's slop did you piss in?
>>114658460
>>114657939>kiara: always claiming how she will lie if it is convinient for her>but i trust kiara 100%
>>114658403what's HoloEN identity? speaking english? they can still do that.
>>114658163because they still think they can become japanese
>>114658522>wavemask off
>>114658531
>>114658421>pointsThey have fucking points.
>removes the possibility of people like Omega and the tranny poledancer managing EN.>This is somehow bad.This is like saying that the NEXUS was better than the Pixel.
>>114658522If someone wants to graduate over whatever this is, k? Seems retarded.
>no japanese pandering post or paragraph about how she's happy about the mergerYeah she's upset
my love, I took it downClimbed a mountain and I turned aroundAnd I saw my reflection in the snow covered hills'Til the landslide brought me downOh, mirror in the sky, what is love?Can the child within my heart rise above?Can I sail through the changin' ocean tides?Can I handle the seasons of my life?MmWell, I've been 'fraid of changin''Cause I've built my life around youBut time makes you bolderEven children get olderAnd I'm gettin' older, too
>>114658061Empty assurances that they'll still pay attention to and help English membersLies, of course, but she won't realize that until well into next year
>>114658549I can immediately tell that this is a month where Clio was constantly botted
So why are EN and ID talents introducing themselves to JP audiences but JP and DEV_IS aren't introducing themselves in Eigo and Indo?
>>114658531Me when my underperformance sidelines an entire branch
>>114658579She is busy doing CC right now
>>114658579your branch killed hololive EN bitch SHUT UP
>>114658499our monkeys are not smart enough to think about anything new, that's why the keep repeating >there wont be another English talent
>>114657303Yes so expect a Holofest in the US next year instead of HoloEN Concert
>>114658421Korone and Miko speak English and should be included if FUWAMOCO are.
>>114658551I can't even remember any of the pests names to make a joke about it
>>114658592>NijiEN above 500Well duh
I'm going to watch How High (2001)
>>114658558What else would you call 5 JP’s and another 4 EN’s leaving within such a short timeframe
>>114658579Can Gigi speak/understand nihongo? She will need it from this point
>>114658510We stopped doing fantasy designs at holox
Peko won.
>>114658566shhh dont spoonfeed them
>>114658606Shhh stop noticing!
>>114658636She can't. Out of all of Justice she interacts with and communicates with JPs the least.
Notice how holocucks are now completely ignoring serendipity, despite it being the obvious reason behind the merge
>>114658592That's from august. Phase has been in the top 3 for almost a year now. Not counting JPs of course.
EN corpos and indies are so dead they get btfo by a fully Jap corpo who has some talents that speak English. Grimm.
>>114658636maybe if they switch to chinese
>>114658642Advent and Justice are fantasy thobeit
>>114658667>>114658520
>>114658606There's a reason why no JP is upset about the merge. They lost nothing. ID and EN lost everything and have to beg for scraps now.
>>114658535Cover will foot the bill
Notice how the mask is completely off and those who have a problem with this are no longer pretending to be hololive fans
>>114658310has this thread really fallen so low that it's full of EOP tourists who would rather see kiara or ERB than maripeko?
What happened to ENreco then
>>114658616Doubt it would be too much of a logistical undertaking. More likely to have a general Hololive concert with a mix of majority EN, JP, and ID.
>>114658610Tbh, you know it's projection because what they were describing is a Restructuring, and not an actual Merger. (For both Nijisanji and Hololive cases) and actual Merger is two different companies combining similar divisions
Notice how homocucks are now completely ignoring THD, despite it being the obvious reason behind the merge
i blame irys
>>114658672Yeah sure the Gay one aint botted
>>114658695why the fuck would i want to listen to Japanese? i like my vtubers EN and my anime dubbed
>>114658672July what, 2026?*JULY 30TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*>25,902: Nimi (Indie)>14,494: Bijou (Hololive English)>9,695: FUWAMOCO (<3) (Hololive English)>6,965: Brisko (Nijisanji English)>6,760: Clio (Phase Connect)>6,723: Shiori (Hololive English)>6,626: Shu (Nijisanji English)>6,240: Maria (Nijisanji English)>6,012: Elira (Nijisanji English)I do wonder fucking why lol
>>114658592clio is constantly botted in every month
>>114658697ded
>>114658592Is the coping part of the equation?
My wait was rewarded
>>114658606They don’t speak English. What’s the point?
oh ya you can tell she's not happy about this>but she said on streamdon't matter always look at what woman do not say
>>114658735
>>114657936BAU BAU
>>114658740Okay what did woman do
>>114658718She's acknowledged it. Hasn't been an issue since July and considering Phase is still in the top 3 it didn't make much of a difference.
>>114658606>introducing themselves in Eigo and IndoWhat the fuck. We are the descendants of Amaterasu, the ancient sons of the rising sun who forged the islands in the age of the kami and carried the glory of our sacred civilization across the seas. We are the purest heirs of the imperial bloodline, born to preserve the ancient traditions of the samurai, the shrine, and the sacred sword. You are literally a dishonorable peasant, spiritually unclean, and an insult to the very presence of your betters.Get the fuck out of our sacred mythical Yamato space.
>HOLOKEKS IN SHAMBLESKEKAROOOO WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVETHATS WHAT YOU GET FOR HIRING A WHORE LIKE NIMI TO TALK YOUR BEST TALENTS OUT OF THE COMPANY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>114658694Well I've just been doomposting for fun, in reality who knows if this is actually bad. Plus some of the talents being upset doesn't mean anything, people always hate change in big established companies and bureaucracies, even if if it's for the better people don't like having to adapt to new stuff.
>>114658697Are we pretending ENReco wasn't a huge flop?
>>114658740she really removed the "hololive" from her twitter entirely lmao
>>114658624Have fun anon. I’m going to smoke up and look at Kronii and Calli porn.
>>114658749バウバウ*
>>114658719
>ESL's pretending to be Hololive fans tried to false flag the "Niji Merge" as soon as YAGOO announced he would be managing the talents.>Except That isn't a Merge. A Merge should be between two independent companies' combining their common departments IDK
>>114658740She changed her name like everyone else what are you retarded ina did exactly the same.
phase is winning the mindshare war
>>114658778none of the ENs that left mattered when they left
>>114658768Nigga come on.*SEPTEMBER 6TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*>18,714: Calliope (Hololive English)>8,818: Baelz (Hololive English)>7,314: Clio (Phase Connect)>5,861: Clio (Phase Connect)>5,230: Seible (Nijisanji English)>5,065: Kiara (Hololive English)
>>114658606Japanese company bitch
>>114658768Lmao nowithout Clio being botted they're below HoloID most of the time
does this mean Biboo will finally finish Fallout New Vegas and Black Mesa?
>>114658768>sheOkay, phasetroon, you can leave now
Wait, did I win the hardest?
>>114658728>Romanialmao
>>114658360Compared to Skyline Serenade it was a massive success
>>114658694Happens when their enjoyment of the girls completely stems off of how large their numbers are.
>>114658794Nobody seriously expected nijiEN to get merged, they're just going to get terminated after their next controversy
>I feel like EN is being sidelined. Like, the merger is sidelining EN and ID girls from opportunities and… yeah. […] Don’t worry! I’m not leaving I’ll tell you that. I’m okay with being sidelined.>people won't get it until It's too late >it's just over and sometimes things don't change for the better>that's just the way it is>I'm won't be surprised if I get in trouble for this stream, I'm already in trouble
>>114658802They had an option to keep hololive or remove it entirely and she chose to take it out completely. Look at FUWAMOCO for the other option where they gladly immediately dropped the disgusting EN part of their display name and posted welcoming Japanese fans.
>>114658818was there an issue with perms?
>>114658579Maybe because she knows it's partly her fault and wants to slip under the radar.
>>114658768>Hasn't been an issue since Julylmao
>>114658860no she just dropped those out of lack of interest
>>114658809>they're below HoloID most of the timeThat's just not true no matter how much you want it to be. >>114658829She/he whatever. I don't watch her so I don't care.
>>114658849BIGMOUTH STRIKES AGAIN
>>114658849>I feel likeYou see this is the main problem
So were all the EN and ID numbers being posted here botted?
>>114658839it's czech republic right?
https://x.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/2097000605877465316
>>114658857FWMC have been suck off JP for a year and have not seen any numbers boost from it, their numbers are trash compared to 2024
>>114658875holy phaseshitter gigabots!!!
>>114658510>asobi mawari tailittle girls
>>114658889You can't say that, you upset their feelings I mean numbers.
>>114658803Just 2 dudes hanging out
CC SPACEhttps://x.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/2097000605877465316https://x.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/2097000605877465316https://x.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/2097000605877465316
>we're now all a global hololive >events are still almost entirely in Japan>tickets are locked to Japanese residentsIf we're lucky overseas bros get to fight for 100 tickets like IRyS sololive.
>Mori's immediate reaction is to turn lemons into lemonade. >Kiara immediately doomposts.Well, if you don't see the difference in attitude, there's no hope for you.
>>114654359Just as intended.
I'm loving how Holofans are cannibalizing themselves
our stacy just posted
>>114658918oh shit
You guys are mentally ill
>>114658804i wonder why they keep searching for a gura replacement after all this time thenKEK
>>114658928>cope vs brutal unfiltered honesty its just the american vs german cultural dynamic
>>114658885You have only pippa that maybe matches kaela, aside from that, the rest just raid each other to stay above 1k.
>>114658728Speaking of numbers what's his IQ? Probably higher than the EN/JP combined women I presume.
>>114658893Yea
>>114658920How is that different from IRyS sololive again?
>>114658943why is she so petty
>Justice was the last ever English gen in hololive historyOof
they needed Gura as their champion
>>114658849Is Kiara the only one in Hololive who isn't a coward?
>They are restructuring so that all of Hololive is one>Homostars aren't involved
>>114658974It's not except now all concerts will be Japanese lottery based and exclusive to residents.
>>114658901The extra merch they’ve gotten wouldn’t have happened without the JP pandering; they’ve been very successful
>>114658951They already have like five Gura replacements lil pup, the ones that don't stream.
Do Japanese actually like Mori's white rap in their songs?
>>114658804>COPIUM LEVELS AT AN ALL TIME HIGHKEKAROOOOOOO
>>114658980>holox was the last ever Japanese gen in hololive historyBIGGER OOF
>>114658950and proud.
>>114658987Not only are they not involved, they didn’t even bother to merge the en and jp homos, unironically not even worth the effort to cover
>>114658985Lots of JP's are as open as her, it's only EN that doesn't dare to rock the boat.
>>114658965Shiina get's more viewers than Pippa does these days. Nitya is getting up there and even Jelly can get to old Pippa numbers when she does something interesting.
CC back
>>114658901AUG 2026 EN GOLD8/1 - Nimi - Photomaly: 21,2778/2 - Brisko - Minecraft: 11,9298/3 - Nimi - Elden Ring: 24,1948/4 - Kronii - Clover Pit: 46,9708/5 - Gigi - American Truck Simulator: 24,3938/6 - Kronii - Hollow Knight Silksong: 46,1448/7 - Nimi - Palworld: 14,9888/8 - Nerissa - The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker: 23,124 8/9 - Hololive English - Advent 3rd Anniversary 3D Live: 33,194 8/10 - Nimi - Elden Ring: 22,8648/11 - Calliope - Super Mario Party Jamboree: 13,9538/12 - Bijou - Arknights Endfield: 5,952 8/13 - Calliope - Hololive Dreams: 11,117 8/14 - Bijou - Resident Evil 4: 9,812 8/15 - FUWAMOCO - Karaoke plus Announcements: 13,2328/16 - Baelz - Karaoke plus Announcements: 8,9878/17 - Baelz - Phoenix Wright Trials and Tribulations: 7,2108/18 - Bijou - Hololive Dreams: 9,6878/19 - Baelz - HoloTCG Box Opening: 11,2278/20 - Kronii - Hollow Knight Silksong: 13,6568/21 - Kronii - Karaoke plus Announcements: 13,8828/22 - FUWAMOCO - Learning English: 19,8938/23 - Baelz - Anniversary plus Announcements: 36,5848/24 - Clio - Europa Universalis 5: 8,3478/25 - Kronii - Anniversary 3D Live: 28,9388/26 - Bijou - Resident Evil 4: 7,0748/27 - Gigi - Popup Shop Reveal: 8,7478/28 - FUWAMOCO - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2: 22,8238/29 - FUWAMOCO - Thanks to Hololive: 50,3328/30 - FUWAMOCO - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2: 10,5978/31 - Baelz - Yakuza 7: 10,151PER COMPANY25x: Hololive English4x: Indie1x: Nijisanji English1x: Phase ConnectHOLOLIVE ENGLISH HAS WON THE MONTH OF AUGUST.PER STREAMER5x: Kronii, FUWAMOCO, Baelz4x: Nimi, Bijou2x: Gigi, Calliope1x: Nerissa, Hololive English, Brisko, ClioWITH FIVE GOLDS, THIS IS OURO KRONII'S BEST MONTH ON HER TENURE AS A HOLOMEMBER.WITH 140 GOLDS, FUWAMOCO ABYSSGARD BEAT GAWR GURA AND BECOME THE SECOND MOST EARNING TALENT IN EN TALLY HISTORY (BEHIND KOSEKI BIJOU WITH 192)FUWAMOCO ABYSSGARD BECOME THE FIRST TALENTS TO WIN THREE GOLDS IN A ROW SINCE SAMEKO SABA IN JULY 2025.FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ANY TALLY'S HISTORY, THREE DIFFERENT TALENTS SHARE FIRST PLACE IN GOLDS.
>They are restructuring so that ENsharts and IDogs never get hired againbased/jp/ won
>do JP's actually like Mori?Silly BVTM, they love Mori.
https://x.com/LilacIllust/status/2096954102668468383Would this person pass the vibe test?
oh you know she's seething
why are people acting like they're killing gens when they're just merging the branches? myth is still the same it was one week ago.
>>114658943fucking based
>>114659036TOTAL HOLO DOMINATIONDOOOOOORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>114659027Does that mean Shiina is inclining or is Pippa recl->Okay it's just Pippa reclining.
>More ENs confirmed>More JPs confirmed>Homos are dead
>>114659017Are you trying to act silly or do you genuinely not realize that every gen from now on will continue being a JP gen?EN is actually over.
>>114659044that girl will not get hired anymore now that she talked about applying for hololive. what a dumbass
>>114659044oh no no no no no hahahahaha
>>114659049KWAB
>>114659065>Okay it's just Pippa reclining.Would help if she actually streamed or stopped doing her retarded car bit. Either or.
>>114659072>>More ENs confirmednot sure about that one
>>114659049Kronii doesn't give a fuck and she is never moving to Japan ever (plus she is also part of the "old gens") so I really don't understand Kiara here.
>>114658928That's the main problem with Kiara. She should learn to relax and talk when she's not at her emotional peak because she tends to be very retarded in that state
>>114659049imagine the angry sex
No matter what happens, I am still going to shoot ropes to Kronii paizuri.
>>114659052It’s trolls shitposting trying to make others upset
>The only thing that changed is the name. >Kiara and the IDs are pretty upset>A lot of it has to do with losing their branch identity. Like Reine and Risu, they kinda hinted at their sadness about losing the ID marks, but then they moved on.So it's about branch pride and identity
>>114659052Because most of the Holofans are in Towa. What's left are just antis and schizos
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>114659017next gen coming soon though
>>114659072>More ENs confirmedOh no no no no
CC IS HAVING A MELTY ON HER TWITTER SPACE
>>114659077you night wanna rewatch the announcement retard
>>114659052>>114659111Gens aren't being killed, there just won't be any new EN or ID gens anymore>>114659072>>More ENs confirmedNot happening
>>114659044no lmao
>>114659049kiara is so funny
>>114659072shitposters don't know they said "units" in their recent report/interviews because they can't read
>>114658552If you were one of the lucky few to have watched the concert you saw how poorly the turnout was
>>114659052because you'd have to be retarded to think EN or ID would get anything now that its rolling into JP, Japanese managers are going to give everything to japanese people not the baka gaijin
>>114659092It's been confirmed for a long time so you exposed yourself as having thoughts which have no value, as I expected since only I have thoughts that matter.
CC almost went to hong kong
Jokes aside, does this mean that the vtubers must stream in Japanese or not stream?
>>114659115yeah next HOLOLIVE genJP is dead
>>114659049Why do we hate Kiara again?
>>114659039they unironically did based off the new requirementss
>>114658510Watame is only holo that has only animal ears
>>114659114They're not even trying to hide their glee
>>114659151The unit will speak in Japanese. Every unit from now on will speak in Japanese. That's the point. Justice was the last English speaking gen/unit.
>>114659135nothing about units promise about them being english speaking
why does cc sound like that? like her tongue is tied
>>114659142why does CC HATE hongkong when her two ships are with chinks
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA
>>114659146That's exactly what it means
cc sounds very cute today
>>114658550That’s where you’re wrong.Less EN management means more JP sensitivities.Bringing up hot button issues means rocking the boat and rocking the boat means apology stream + (stealth) suspension.
>>114659162Because she's against what our company wants duh
>>114659146Nothing has changed for the people already there.
>>114658102kiara and her fans... they are special per se
>>114659186gigi went too hard with her tongue
>>114659176i dont give a fuck what language they will speakwe're not getting any more JP gens
ccgg had chinese food
>GG took CC to eat chinese food
Once the last samurais realize that the possibility of unit members being multilingual and units being multinational is above 30% , they'll be joining the antis in the seethe.
>>114659210>our
working with kiara must be mentally exhausting
>>114659178And the ESL confirms he's too stupid for basic reasoning
Even if you started watching Hololive with Myth thats still 6 years of JP reps.
weird cc lisp
>>114659186twitter space + phone makes her sound lispy
>>114659114Holy based
>>114659186she has her retainer in
>>114659044Well she would have to pass a literacy test first because the auditions are right fucking there
>>114659232>Above 30%>When the next unit has already been announced exclusively in Japanese.Nope. The samurais know they're the ones buttering the bread.
>>114658928Mori has a label behind her and has always been the favorite child she gonna get a dose of reality soon though when she no longer gets favor like before because some top jp is in line.
>we
suisei is the samurai of vtubers
bros I'm next to Nerissa Ravencoft in this CC space I made it
DID YOU KNOW?
>>114658860perms were only branch wide, yhey need to get all perms again now for those limited branch games
This 8 minute long Twitter space is more popular than any Niji or Phase stream of yesterday and today
>>114658928>>114659294I don't know why you guys keep arguing with each other as if Mori is actually happy with this.
so EN5 never?
>>114659312i can't believe she's doing the He's 21 years old meme
>>114659114Well that was fast
>>114658928Kiara turns them to citricacid
cc sounds like a fucking NERD
>>114658421ngl I'm kind sad-ish that it wasn't Biboo's stream who won gold because it was technically the last ever 'Hololive English' stream.
>>114659198man... Good luck to them with Japanese.>>114659212>Nothing has changed for the people already there.I don't know what that means.I asked because I watch CC sometimes and I want to listen to her talk in english.
>>114659324She is? Everything she has posted so far has been happy and excited about this.
>>114658606JP have NEVER cared about English fansEVERY time kaigainikki have "saved" a talent, the second their JP viewership recovers and yabs are forgotten they just turn their back on the kaigainikki that floated them to go back to superior nipponese fans
>>114659324Anon. Mori is happy with this, if you watched the stream, you'd know that.
>>114659315>Phase stream of yesterdayWell yesterday was their big summer event so that's not exactly true.
cc bought some peds for her monthly bleeding
>>114658928>kiara: honest, genuine>mori: guarded, fake, calculating
>>114659315>more popular than any Niji or Phase stream of yesterday and todaythat's not saying much desu
>>114659333Unprofitable just like ID
>>114658943she is not part of hololive global
>>114659324her general on towa is literally saying she's not upset about this and is happy deadbeats are so far gone from reality it's sad
Mask offHololive won
>>114658421Nah this is larp now En tally doesn't make sense especially since there is no hololive english now
Who's happy? MeWho won? Japan
>>114659294We just saw Mori and ERB cover song hit 1 million within a day she’s like the exception to the rules
>>114658985EN kept their head down and didn't rock the boat during the entire fucking grim era with omegay and you want them to complain NOW?They're probably just grateful it isn't as bad as his shitshow anymore so they'll put up with anything like a battered wife
>>114659367watame genuinely caresmost EN also dont care about jp fans so i dont know why it's bothering you
they're not using cover apartments
>>114659367Why I've always laughed at the anons who suck off JP when in reality they couldn't care less about them
Biboo is not the Face of EN anymore, she's a nobody.
Finally at a desktop and checking the new holopro website and wow the homoshitters are just gone gone from the entire site?
>logo changewhatever, though I like the previous logo better>mergecautiously optimistic since my oshi lives in Japan anyways>Holoraku appseems cool, would have to see whether the talents can actually use them properly however. Adding functionalities also means adding complexities which may deter the talents from using them in the first place.>HoloanimeI was watching pekora and she talked about who would be her seiyuu. Not sure how serious she was when she mentioned it, but it'd be terrible if the talents doesn't voice themselves.>new jp genFinally, hoping for a loli gen
>>114654091>Holofags shat on indie concerts despite them being successful >Turns out HoloEN concerts failed so hard they got merged into the main branchKarma kek
>>114659419biboo was never the face of jack shit
>>114659244>he's too stupid for basic reasoningOk smart guy, explain your logic-backed reasoning then
>>114659009honestly it is her boobs jiggling
>>114658943fucking kek why is she like this
>>114659404COPEyour indie, phase, and niji whores are still going to lose the EN tally lil bro
>Every single person complaining about the merge is using vocabulary that exposes them as a holoanti
>>114659431kekarooo
>>114659432Yeah. She was the body
>>114659381>2.3k right now
>>114659431Halfsold Serenade is literally the only reason Kiara stayed at Hololive
>>114659114FWMC I KNEEL!
>>114659432face of idiots
>holocucks spent years saying that nijien will merge into nijijp>holoen gets merged into holojpKEKAROOOOOO
>>114659404Free to make your own.
>Retard Mori anti pretends the Japanese doesn't like Mori.This is hilarious.
>>114659398>her general on towa is literally saying she's not upset about this and is happyBecause...she is...???
>>114659036what is this hololive EN? we believe only in one hololive you heretic
>>114659450As opposed to "total ENshart death, only fwmc matters, hurffdurrr" ?
>>114659434When they say units and they're already debuting a Japanese one, what does that imply?
we might genuinely start seeing dip in CCV for en talents. There are a lot of people angry with cover in the western side of Holo. Get ready to see 3 view holoEN from now on
>Hololive won>I'm going to cry and say Hololive lost
>>114659432She was tho
>>114658928Mori was sucking copium, she knows she can't change anything anymore which is why she said she won't protest anymore and just look at the bright side of things (cope)
>>114659381Yes and it sucked balls
why is CC having a space at 2AM jst?
>>114659445they can't even make it to the EN tally in the first place
>>114659476In niji if you merge you diein holo if you merge you prosper
>>114659049Might be my schizophrenia, but neither Mori nor Ina mention "hololive" in their Twitter names for some reason, while Kiara still does. Did management kick Kiara out of Myth or something? Ina claims,>it's ok, anniversary soon!!! will fill it with exciting text afterwards!!!! >:3cMori and Ina's attitudes are also noticeably "hopium" compared some of the ENs like Nerissa and FWMC being decidedly more positive about it.
>>114659431KEKAROOOOOOOO
>>114658726Finally
>>114659505she just arrived
>>114659490desperate nijicuck projection
>>114658250If EN concerts are truly gone now with Serenifloppity behind them, then the oshispark indie avengers vshojoshitters have actually FUCKING WON and I hate it.Congratulations, the western vtubing concert meta, invented with Connect the World and subsequently bloomed with Breaking Dimensions is a thing of the past that'll never be as great as it was.At least it lines up with UOs being actually banned so now the JP concerts will be ultra sterile and drab.
>>114658943BASED suisei girlbossing a separate fat budget instead of bothering fighting over the holopot like the rest of the whore crabs
>>11465947627 people graduated after the Niji mergers (not counting that Niji India shit)
>>114659104she got rape doujin and twittards are angry
>>114659146There will be exactly 0 changes to their streams anon, the only thing it's that most likely events that previously were "EN" or "ID" only won't happen anymore, it's just going to be stuff within your own gen, stuff with your unit or flat out include everyone, which was basically how JP operated since like 2022 since it pretty much became standard issue for them to invite all branches to all their events, only EN and ID still segregated their big events to a single branch new girls tho. I guess the idea going forward will be to hire multilingual girls and despite some push here and there from management to ultimately allow them to stream in whatever language they want, which means that everyone new will pretty much exclusively stream in Japanese because that's by far the biggest audience
>>114654178Happy if true.
somebody please take the fake teeth out of CC mouth
>>114659009Those are her main fans. It helps that they don't understand english lol
Can somebody explain to me how Hololive won if they killed off two of their brands on the same day?
>MergeThe original prediction was that NijiJP will perform an act of Mercy by absorbing the Floundering EN branch.This isn't functionally nor descriptively the same scenario because the Hololive thing isn't a merge, it's a restructuring.
holoEn's numbers wont improve from this in fact it will probably hurt overseas expansion,
Everyone having a good time?
>>114659445En tally should belong to en talents and since there is no hololive english they don't belong in en tally. Straight up larp shit tally anon. I thought you had an ounce of self respect for your craft but you turned out to be tribalistic
>>114659476>spent years saying that nijien will merge into nijijpCouldn't be me, I know nijiJP doesn't want nijiEN garbage. I've been saying that anykuro is just waiting for the next nijiEN yab to terminate them, they earn less in a year than HoloEN does in quarter(with half the vtubers).
>>114659571How did they kill them if they came out stronger with the merger?>HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!
>>114659485she's not her melty in April makes a lot more sense now
>>114659502>Mori was sucking copium>(cope)RetardGOD, you can't just disregard Mori's actual expressed opinion/thought as "cope" so you can pretend she's secretly sad/upset
>>114659146it means girls can't forbid other girls from joining their events based on their former branch but can assing wven language barriers
This space is extremely gfe coded
>>114659514as far as i can see this only has benefits ina and mori. why would they not be hopeful?
>>114659146They won't "must", but I wouldn't take out option of "heavily encouraged"
>>114659586Make your own cuckie, why are you crying?
>>114659586>tally anonnot tally anon>en talentsIt's for English speaking vtubers and you know the rules since you're this mindbroken by him
>>114659556They're not stupid and they know they can't all stream in Japanese at JP times because overlap would rape them, it's also why MekPark sometimes streams at times that fit more with EU than JP.You're getting English streamers at NA times, if they speak broken English, whatever.
No anon. It just means HoloJP, ID and EN can easily intertwine in regards to concerts in the West. It's not going to be called HoloEN concert in the west but it'll just be called a Hololive concert. Cover explicitly listed North America as a territory the want and they're not going to cede that territoryThere are subtitles on the streams. Stop being a thread reader
>>114659577i don't think they would do this if they cared about overseas expansion anymore, they're cutting their loses and going completely insular
>>114659534>wonlol
>>114659589>Couldn't be me, I know nijiJP doesn't want nijiEN garbage. I've been saying that anykuro is just waiting for the next nijiEN yab to terminate themI'm in the opposite end, I am unironically frustrated this is not Nijisanji doing, the people I care in NijiEN would do a WHOLE LOT better under "ONE NIJISANJI" than under the pretty much dead branch they're consigned to.I fucking wish it was Nijisanji, not even kidding
Imagine skating around nijien being merged and posting -8 chart only for holoen and HoloID to merge into jp oh damn you guys are so influetial. Whatever you say shit turns back and bites you in your own ass. Kinda comical lmao
>>114659599Kiara said the girls learned about the merger this July
It is very funny how it's basically another instance of "Cover doing exactly what Niji did a few years latter" first it was the VTA stuff and now putting everyone under a single label. Niji does basically exist as a company with far less to lose that can go in, fuck up, so that Cover will eventually pick up what worked and implement it themselves
From the aesthetic, I think this will be a sex gen
>>114659593How did they become stronger?
Tbh Myth shackled themselves when Gura and Ame left. Ina and Mori are doing the right thing by moving on. But what does Kiara do? Literally drag Ame and Gura's corpses along for a ride.
>>114659628>jp can prop up the failing en branch thats the real takeaway
so many bait threads...so little replies...
>>114659266She's not wrong thoughbeitAny English speaking applicant now has to fight off not just JP speakers which will be preferred, but retired akb48 members lmaoGood fucking luck getting in as a nobodyMAYBE if they make mekpark available to en, but even then they'll just pick experienced jp streamers again kek
>>114659586>En tally should belong to en talents It's funny because if we do it by location and not language then not a single talent in any corpo would apply.Not even Saba would apply, you can probably guess why.
>>114659482Japanese think gaijins are funny for same reason racist think blacks are funny
>>114659405But you are not Japanese.You'll never be Japanese.You are just a weeaboo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBfWKmRFT
>>114659663imagine if its mixed JP/EN
>>114659623>>114659626Damn no self respect. So pathetic even after every single Holo removing Holoen from their name you still keep never bumping them as english. Tsk tsk so pathetic
so is the merch the reason they ended holoEN rewinds? Instead of getting a guaranteed content they have to fight in the pool with everyone else for only hologra? That's the perfect example of how this is a bad thing for EN/ID.
>>114659635>>114659577After years of mocking Niji, karma... sweet sweet karma.
>>114659599>she's not her melty in ApriThat shit was about the concert, retard
Why is Suisei such a cunt
>>114659682
>>114659670My takeaway from this is that niji and phase can't compete with a "failing" branch and Shiori is closer to a sololive than most of your shitters are to a 3D live
>>114659678It's not by location but what they consider themself as like how tally anon doesn't include peanut into the tally because hedoesnt consider himself as a vtuber holoen talents shouldnt be included in the tally since they are not en anymore
>>114659698>seethinglol nijicuck meltbrown
>>114659663Why isn't it in English?
>cuts off both my legs>eats them so that I don't starve to deathI won
>matching jackets with Biboo
>>114659406https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp8FOx6oQ2sI'm a Rosarian but I'm afraid it's not a natural 1 mill.
>CC and Biboo have matching jackets
phase....won?
>>114658943>EN and ID operations were carried by Suisei’s revenue.
>>114659738No nigga we don't include Peanut on any tally because he ISN'T a VTuber, he could identify as a tranny VTwitcher or whatever and he would still not be includedWhat is this shit about feelings
>>114659717don't worry I'll still be mocking nijitrash when you're seething about EN talents in the future
>>114659627>JP times because overlap would rape themThat has been a thing since like... 2020, and despite that JP has still maintained far better metrics than EN, the overlap doesn't mean shit when even if you have a time slot completely to yourself the audience is that much smaller, there's several EN girls who have entire timezones to themselves getting mogged by JPs under a 20 stream overlap, and the reason most of Mekpark streams at odd hours is explicitly to catch stray JAPANESE audience, specifically commuters and late owls/early risers, not to catch stray euros or bugers watching streams entirely in Japanese
>>114659738you are so retarded
>>114659720They were told about this months before in advance they probably tried to slip in some shit merch deals for EN
>>114659757Because I watch Hololive
>>114658918Ok but when stream
>>114658224Your whore lied about plenty of things, her nigger bf for instance, KFPiss.
>>114659556it would be funny if the organized tournaments still exclude the ex-EN/ID's
rrats on why CC sounds so fucked up?
>>114659773They should have sex while wearing nothing but the jackets
It’s fucking hilarious how a merger and an icon change was it, besides the anime but who gives a fuck about that. No new gen teaser, just merging lmao. “Hololive winning” apparently, when not even NijiEN has been merged lmao. Fucking retarded holocucks, all that cope the last year has amounted to nothing you faggots lost hard and will only continue to lose as more talents obviously decide to graduate now.
>>114659757because it's a japanese speaking unit
>>114659431>>114659476Hahahahaha
>>114659417>ex sidebranches don't get housing funding anymoreKEK
>>114659774bro somehow nijiEN won, Grim
>>114659831>“Hololive winning” apparentlyTrueHololive won
>>114659828lesbian domestic violence...
>>114659730She desperately tries to pander for the normies audience but cannot escape being another vtuber
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>>114659831uh oh nijicuck meltbrown
>>114658728isn't kingdom come set in Bohemia?
>>114659730Why would Suisei give a fuck about it, she’s clearly gone beyond being just a holomem at this point. The only reason she seemingly stays, is because Cover technically owned the IP character once she joined.
>>114659778>EN talentswhere
>>114659525no she came hours ago. GG even tweeted about it
>>114659831>No new gen teaserretard see >>114659663
HoloEN was such a failure Cover had to merge them into JP kek
>>114659603When you hear someone say "is not gonna protest or fight anymore" that usually means they fucking gave up
>>114659881I understand its hard for brown people to understand but there are still 4 EN gens
>>114659881based stacy
>>114659831By the way NijiEN is closer to getting their second 2view ever
People were already predicting they were going to COMBINE the branches under one umbrella.(it's not a merger retards, Google the word)personally I am optimistic and I HIGHLY doubt Cover management is retarded enough to not do EN only gens.the only thing I am iffy about is the makeup/redesign that they say they might do "5 to 8 a year"there are 50+ Girls in the company. are they that confident they will still be the same company in that time?I don't think things will change (whether that's good or bad is up to you) in terms of streams or anything. maybe they will distribute resources evenly or 40/30/30 but if that happens will come in the future.I'm fucking off to work now
>>114659685I don't have to because it's clearly not the case case considering nothing about this account screams it's gonna have anything in English
>>114659628You're getting a world tour with a mix of members and half of en cut off from itIt's fucking dead, just accept it
>>114659872NijiEN still its own branch btw, NijiJP still btfo’s holojp
>>114659635>they're cutting their loses and going completely insularThis. You don't downsize for expansion.The whole world economy is in a recession so it's not a shocker but Cover is done outside of Japan. It's over, except for the crying.If Cover really wanted, they could just pay out a contract break to each EN talent not living in Japan and be done with it. They need to remove all liabilities before next quarter's results. I wonder how badly an individual talent can perform before their ass is out the door.
>>114659881on the website
i hope the hololive anime doesn't do idol shit and make it purely an adventure anime, because seeing what happened to pic related, it will certainly flop especially at attracting new audiences.
>>114659927scream into deez nuts
so NijiEN is dead holo is retreating from the EN sphere vshojo is dead that just leaves Phase and VSPO
>>114659903Cope harder shart
>>114659929melty
>>114659948>VSPOENHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>114659848ccgg always rent their own apartment retard
It's become clear that this is massive projection from the usual suspects. >b-but KiaraKiara is on the way out, better butter up the indie audience.
>>114659757Because it's not English talentsWe aren't getting any additions to English speaking holosWe've tried to tell you this over and over again, so have holos, but you keep sticking your fingers in your ears deflecting to phase and niji as if they even fucking matter in the first place
Why does phase refuse to die?
>>114658579Literally who(re)?
>>114659941EN is below ID they know that EN hirls are not worth it so many Kiaras
Seeing only shitters, Kiara/Ollie and their cucked fans, doomposting about this means it’s actually a good thing
>>114659831They did teased new gen, but it appears to be JP
>>114659923Merger is doing it equally, they are pushing ID and EN into JP.
>>114659933>NijiEN still its own branchthat nobody watches kek literal 2view shitters>NijiJP still btfo’s holojpPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTniji "no podium" sanji gets raped by Hololive
>>114659982why is this anon crying and claiming victory at the same time
>>114659948nijien outlived holoen lol
>CC reminiscing the good timesgrim she's saying hololive has changed and she misses what it was like when she joined, which is rich given she helped ruin it
https://x.com/kosekibijou/status/2097007511283138897important.
>>114659730She only looks out for herself, she always has
>>114659983the talents are paid peanuts
https://x.com/whoisnaki_/status/2096992007721976067dude is finally getting called out lmaoooo
>>114659923>Cover management is retarded enough to not do EN only gens.oh you sweet summer child...
>>114659999It's in order of seniority retardchama
>>114660039melty
>>114658421So if Kaela goes past 5K she's in the tally?
>CC got a sake glass with Ina
>NIJI ENmismanagement, cliques, self implosion. Became the Butt of EN vtubing with ZERO chance of growth>VSHOJOmismanagement, rug pull, bad business model. Death by suicide and talents splintered into indies>HOLO ENLiterally killed by the company, talents are now considered "Japanese", no longer EN and are advised to pander to JP fans.>PHASE CONNECTSmall corpo - organically grown, Based in US, panders to EN, Maintains good relations with the Vtuber influencers and American Conventions. No fuckups, so always potential for growth. Now literally becomes THE FACE OF EN VTUBING by default.I am so tempted to make a Video Essay about this incredible success story. Sometimes the universe does bless those that deserve it.
migrate>>114657818
>>114659983fishman basically own their souls
>>114660022hit tweet
>>114659941be honest, do you think there's gonna be more "Indonesian Talents" after all these years?
There are only 2 EN gens left. Tempus and Armis. KEK
>>114660077stop crying
>>114660023I’ve always hated her, even when she was more humble as a nobody she just always gave off bad vibes so glad to see I was right. Fucking brown whore
>>114660063I have added Kaela, Kobo, Anya, etc as honorable mentions a couple times
>>114660084not in your dreams cuckling
>>114659777Biased
>>114659942that was a megaflop because they advertised it everywhere as the Kizuna Ai anime, and guess who wasn't the main character?
>>114660037Kronii was a retard for openly posting about him on the main and her rm. Never ever just blindly believe people and their cancer stories.
>>114660077>No fuckupsbro really thinks anybody is forgetting about those phase male collabs and bf yabs
>ID and EN joining forces means Indies can't tally anymore. Even Nimi can get BTFO'd by Kaela or Kobo.Is this why they're seething?
SHUT UP SHUT UP. BIBOO IS ADDRESSING US
>>114660077>No fuckups, so always potential for growthMan I spilled my fucking lunch you unconsiderate fuck
>>114660077Phase are literally the neo-nazis of Vtubing.
>>114659983Phase actually cares about their talents
migrate>>114660095>>114660095>>114660095>>114660095
Has anyone ever won as hard as a Holochad?
>>114659312>>114659336I don't think she's doing a meme she just legitimately believes he's 21.
>>114658849>people won't get it until It's too lateI got that years ago when I witnessed how garbage the ENbranch was.
>>114660136lol holoen is dead
>>114660091Probably. ID can actually sell more than 2k tickets unlike indies, phase, and niji
What does losing EN/ID identity really mean, they’ve had what 5-6 years to do anything with that and look at the absolute state of both branches. If this leads to more shitters getting the boot, then I’m all for it
>>114660180>>114660180>>114660180
>zey killed ze EN branch?>yes sir>und all ze talents now live in japan?>yes sir>kill zem, dump the yen and throw japan into a financial crisis
>>114660169holojp is deader
BIBOO HAS SPOKEN
Wow tally cuck is still including talents who arent even english anymore to his cope tally. Color me surprised
>>114660037This guy has been dying from cancer for literally years doing the same goddamn grift. It's entirely made up and he ran out of excuses so he just cycles the same his mom is dead dying alive abusive missing, same with father and now cancer this cancer that and repeat. Kronii was a dumbass for supporting this literal grifting rat but anyone stupid enough to donate to the scammer deserved it.I liked their art in the past and even commissioned something but they ghosted me so I had to charge it back. They had the nerve to tell me that they were too sick and busy to work on it yet were still actively posting on twitter asking for more comms. There's a special place in hell for people like that.
>>114660134nta but >male collabs and bf yabsAren't exclusive to Phase you know. In fact, Holo had the worst of this kek
>>114660160Nope
page 11nimi is a whore
>>114660191towel
