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Why is Bae in every Hajime's MV comment? Can she fuck off?
>>114747984Bae is desperate for a JP clique because her gen is about as fractured as Myth
>>114747814Pokémon fan
>>114747984
>>114748009What does that mean
>>114747454We just had two fucking akb48 retirees and THIS is what you think is unfeasible?
>>114747984"Heya guys! Just a reminder I'm a dancer too-"
WHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIES
>>114748009>Pokémon fan>Okayu>Ririka>Koyori>Shion>Miko>Sana>Raora>MoriIs there supposed to be some kind of pattern? The only theme i see is that all Pokemon Holomem are pink or purple
>shiori threadoh boy
>>114748090Take your seat
>>114748072All unabashed perverts
>all the anti-Nimi spam is replaced with anti-Holo spamMakes you think
>>114748123Why would people care to spam Nimi, her lld shit has long passed and she's been an irrelevant whore ever since. Meanwhile Hololive has a new yab seemingly every month
>another phase yabYou can always count on them for taking the heat off of Hololive
>No one said anything>faglings: MEMEMEME
>>114748123
sony dropped kojima now he works with microsoft hololive supports kojima so we support microsoft /v/ is meltingdown btw
>"Make sure you eat everything I ordered for you"
Runts together stronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-qxc7rAaOA
Holy fucking dead thread
>>114748503but it all looks disgusting wheres the steak the mash potatoes not even a cheeseburger
>>114748365I noticed that.
>>114748539Sorry, Nitty started
>>114748539Ina took all the winds out of the schizos' sails
>>114748539everyones playing wardogs
>>114748539this thread will get deleted sooner or later.
>>114748553Have some cultural not everything is burger and fries
>>114748553>"Stop being a picky little boy and just eat what I tell you to eat"
>>114748535>No BibrownNice
>>114748539everyone from here is posting in that Ruze thread on reddit
>>114748626Any good?
>>114748503That just looks like different plates of puke.
>>114748645GRIM
>>114748644
remember pray
>>114748645why didn't anyone tell me, I want to join
>>114748645kek
>>114748699
>>114748734hehe
>>114748006Why didn't Bae ever form a group with JP like Gura and Kiara did? Irys from Chadcast doesn't count.
>>114748784so EN unit after Asobi Mawaritai in October or November?
>>114748784Too busy playing grab ass with the shittigami until mori ditched her for biboo
>>114748784Well Gura's group was management mandated, and Kiara's group is dead in the water. I'm surprised too that Bae hasn't tried making a group with her/Hajime/Suu
>>114747752How the hell is Shiori supposed to read like that?
>>114748642waiting what?
>>114747984Rrat is she's jealous that Hajime mogs her dancing. The truth is probably that she feels like the two of them are "the dancers" and so she should be close.
If Kiara wasn't such a retarded Stacy, she'd probably be one of the most popular EN members among jps. Literally the defining image of European women that Asians fawn over, yet nobody gives a fuck about her because she's such an annoying bitch lol.
>>114748645oh there's a homo thread again huhreported
>95-5
>>114748917>kiara>stacyLolLmao even
>>114748954why did you post this here
>>114748917she was popular in streets of japan before she turned 27 then she did not get free stuff anymore
>>114748986Would you prefer cuckposting
>>114748954>straight male flag comboI thought that wasn't allowed
>>114748917>>114748968>>114748995Too soon.Try again
>>114748164It's even funnier because they were cuckposting Shiori for the past few days, only for her to turn out to be just barely arriving to Japan and going straight to Advent.Then they get a fucking cucknuke from Lia.
PHASE AND HOLOSTARS ONE FAMILY
>>114749057>>114749028KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO
please don't greentext on the holo sub
>>114749057the fuck does that mean
accidentally called the hololive merger the "dimensional merge" and started laughing
>>114749057
>Stay with CoverHe won
>>114749125Honestly at this point, staying is a form of tortureSo go ahead
>>114748954>that flag>GG oshi mark
>>114749125isn't that the hothead who had the meltdown
>>114749028Karma is real hahah
>>114749125Didn't he say "I don't see myself staying for much longer" like a month ago?
>>114748954i don't hate trannies or yurifags the way most people here do but the offensive part of this is OP clearly not knowing shit about non-EN "ships". where the fuck is, like, subaluna
>>114749197Realistically, Okakoro should win
>>114749197No one cared when the tweets were posted, no one cares now
>>114749218okakoro is losing 2:1 to baerys
>>114749125>>114749125Why are the Reddit mods not fucking removing this shit?
>>114749197To be fair a lot of those are super deadFestivaluna, dead, Robochoco, dead, NoeFlare, dead, I don't know if that one ship with Towa and Nene is still alive but come on it's Towa and Nene. Like, the only major JP ship missing on that chart is FubuMio
>>114749233I hate twitter
kojima just graduated from working with sony and linked up with microsoft explain it to me in vtuber terms
>>114749218Okakoro died when Okayu pivoted to GFE
>>114749248okay but half of the EN ones are just made up, like where the fuck is CC x Shiori or Gigi x Ame coming from
>>114749266Luna said Nijisanji makes dumb decisions and joined Hololive
>>114749279>Gigi x AmeGonathan and Pearl
>>114749279>Gigi x AmeThis used to be Gigi's second biggest ship....
>>114749247report itthey usually get around to it and remove it later
>>114749197gg and kiara
>>114749279>Gigi x AmePearl...
>>114749279>Gigi x AmeThat's what saved gigi from being a flop anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PUqhqWQhYshe is implying what has happened to homosaars is now also happening to the girlsalso >pic related
>>114749321The ship that launched Gigi passed CC. Ironic
>>114749325yet again, they are never going to leave
>>114749325
>>114749125As much as they complain they also know they're nothing without the brand.
>>114749141You forgot to mention its also a >Debbie>KFP>ChattiniAll the worst fanbases
>>114749248As if twitterfags ever watch stream
>>114749197Excluding miComet because they would dominate?
>Myth collab>it's just going to be Mori and InaDamn
>>114749266It's like when Luna quit Nijisanji and went to work for Hololive
>>114749197Was a thing a few years ago, Choco shipped Subaru and Luna hard
>>114749381Myth5eva!!!!!1!!!!1!!!!!
>>114749266Kojima was already working on a game for Microsoft, no?
>>114749381Grim
>>114749266>kojima just graduated from working with sony and linked up with microsoft>explain it to me in vtuber termsMet dropping 774 Inc and redebuting with VSPO
>>114749266Like pikamee joining phase
>>114749247Mococo is sick, Fuwawa is nursing her
>>114749343>No base wage>No studio time >No budget for projects>No merch>No appearance on FES or Meet...okay, sure. If they wanna stay, that's fine.>Oh but they're going to collab with-My oshi is not Nana Asteria.
Phase Connect's Kaneko Lumi will be having her first solo 3D concert today! Come watch in just a few hours!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkjbZ8_wB28
>>114749404>>114749343I told you thd would never fucking happen, the leeches will never fucking leave and cover will never just fire them
>>114749381Still hate her after her complaining and kfps trying to police gorilla noise for concert, i guess good riddance now that she is having a mental breakdown
>>114749266
>>114749454...okay, and? At this point stay and starve, I like seeing you suffer
>>114749406Kojima is making two games for them now.
>Myth is actually gonna be the first 2 person gengrim
>>114749325Lol, I hope they get merged with holostars jp
Holostars boys should create a union to fight for their deserved workers rights.
>>114749451>Aphelion>Gliese 667Wtf are these words? Did you ask chatgpt to make up a solo live for phase connect?
>>114749462What are you talking about? Are you stupid?
>>114749480Nice, bleed more money from Xbox, Kojimbo
>>114749496Ok but why aren't they being merged with the jp homos? Why do the girls' branches need to be unified to make it easier but the managers are willing to work extra for dabois?
>>114749348Goku
>>114749451Kinda funny how much less popular Lia is now that people know she's a chink and not some girl boss white gurl
>>114749528>managers are willing to work extra for daboiswhat managers
>>114749528because Cover doesn't care about them anymore. Like fully. Why bother when you can just ignore them?
>>114749528That's the trick, there is nothing to work in with the Homos, there is no need for managers and I bet the April announcement was a bloodbath for them
>>114749519google is free
would holo ever do another gen of dubais? one last crack at the market? surely they know about the p god's numbers
>>114749451Number predictions? Will this break 10k?
>>114749597>bump botnut Fuck off
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>67,776: Fubuki (Hololive)>36,477: Sho (Nijisanji)>30,397: Kanae (Nijisanji)>26,160: Pekora (Hololive)>19,167: Subaru (Hololive)>14,421: Sakuna (Indie)>14,354: Lauren (Nijisanji)>13,751: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>13,646: Nose (VSPO)>13,613: AZKi (Hololive)>13,106: Riona (Hololive)>12,958: Pekora (Hololive)>12,724: Lize (Nijisanji)>12,470: Suisei (Hololive)>10,703: Kanae (Indie)>10,611: Salome (Nijisanji)>10,502: Okayu (Hololive)Gold for Fubuki with the Pokojam tournament, with Sho getting silver with a new outfit, and Kanae, bronze
>>114749614>Only 3 Nijis beat FWMC>One of them with a outfit reveal Well...everyone is still losing against Hololive, that hasn't changed
>>114749614>pekoraOh no what happened
>>114749545>LiaDerp, meant Lumi
>>114749451Why are the phase whores still pretending to be idols? Who is this shit even for??
>>114749558As is that stream, but we shan't be watching
>>114749600Like 2-3k is a stretch bro no one cares about idol shit in the phase cuck fanbase
>>114749325Like Ina said, even some of the girls didn't properly understand what the merger entails, what makes this faggot think he knows even more than them kek.
Phase is the only vtuber company i can think of where the company itself is solid but the talents drag it down normally its the other way around
>>114749406I think so, but he was working on a game that was essentially the spiritual successor to Metal Gear Solid with Sony, this is the one that ended his partnership with them and had him move to Microsoft fully.
>>114749600Didn't Lia have a concert that barely even broke 5k?If the one phase member that cares about idol stuff couldn't get 10k, what makes you think any of them could?
>>114749758I disagree.A good company knows to set proper limits to what the talents are doing and saying so they don't go too far and ruin their image.Phase does NOT limit them nearly enough and that's how you end up with the phase you have today.
>>114749597>50kEN could never…
>>114749802phase spy no one really likes lia the lumi girls album is number three on their shops best selling list people actually want to hear her sing that being said i doubt she gets 5k ccv
>>114749521I'm talking about this
>no streams all day todayTime to watch anime
im a ball and gun gamer who only watches shonen which holo is right for me
>>114749851(me)Literally just Kiara(notkiara), and kfps trying to police holofans using notkiara statement by saying "talents"(plural) hates it. Thread fucking dead, the fuck im doing here
>>114749912Mori
>>114749912Gura
>>114749895Only stream Americans get is some sponsorslop collab with Ina and Bae
>>114749758???They can't even fulfill three year old merch orders
>>114749125he knows no matter how shitty things are for him in homostars it will be much worse going indie. basically he wont quit because hes a pussy with zero self respect. as much as I hate the homoshitters ill atleast give magni and vesper credit for leaving
She wasn’t kidding when she said she felt isolated and alone…
>>114749970their merch time is on average 10-12 months but it does arrive they never had anything that takes three years to ship
>all holos except for Iofi, Risu and Kiara are now fine with it at the minimum if not positive about it>p-please side with those instead of the other 60+HmmmNo.
>>114749994Funny, I remember people complaining about it just last month and pippa deflected by saying her holo merch never showed up either (geekjack order)
>>114749757his branch isn't even getting merged, it doesn't concern their branch in any shape or form which means upper management probably didn't even inform them on anything
>>114749521yes
Kiara in chat: ):<vsPeko in chat: :D
>>114749986One of these tweets is a shadow suspension announcement by management, and the other is a voluntary hiatus for serious personal reasons made by a talent.Are you retarded?
>>114750026The reason phase and geekjack take so long is they dont get enough orders to justify doing priority manufacturing so they have to wait in line for their bespoke merch to be made at the factory i dont think pippa realizes hololive does not have this problem
pippa at 600 viewers an hour in doing react content
>>114750050CC got suspended?
>>114749986lmao
>>114750044Translate what Pekora is saying retard
>>114749994This is exactly what Vshoujo would do before it collapsed btw. Shouldn't take a year to make merch.
>>114749986At minimum at least now you know she is not actually close with Ina, not to the point of talking outside streams to discuss shit
>>114750094not true vshojo was actually pretty good about merch it shipped within 6 months
>>114749757He's a member of the swagipinno community - his words
normies will actually be happy with more cross-branch collabs and different languages
>>114750073So you are retarded, got it.
https://x.com/suisei_submati/status/2097910994513314028wtf is this about?
>>114750172normies dont watch hololive they watch twitch vtubers
>>114749757He is trying really hard to associate the Homo downsize with the merger like SEE SEE WE'RE BOTH HAVING PROBLEMSBut the fact that Risu sold merch 5 hours ago tells us everything we need to know.
>>114750181I'm not the low IQ SEA retard spamming this thread 24/7 with cheap bait nobody bites
Wait, doesn't the country of Dubai fund homos?
>>114750197Like who
>>114750192People bringing the super bright and disruptive lights to live shows and then bragging about it on twitter
>>114750192I'd assume reporting people breaking the rules from her recent concert
>>114750237Peanut
>>114750237mousey vedal, filian before she vanished
>>114750192people showed up with flashbangs to troll her concerthttps://x.com/Aoino0202/status/2097681246734467379
>>114749614>No HoloEN memberlmao no wonder the merge happened
>>114749528Managing the homos is probably a banishment room-tier job these days. Stop trying to take what little work they have to do away from them anon.Seriously seems like you'd have had to have pissed in someone's cereal to end up assigned to the homos.
if cover was in charge of wwe they would have banned signs no fun allowed
This was hot.
>>114750267Vedal's average is 5.7 fucking k
>>114750294banishment room doesnt work on non japs as long as some sort of money is flowing we will just coast
>>114750092Do your reps.>Is anyone there?>no one's hereeeeeee>there you are>Is the new iphone coming out at 2 a.m. tonight?>2 a.m. on the 10th does that mean midnight tonight?>It's pekora!!!!!!!>It’s after midnight, right?>ok!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks so much!!!!!!!!!>I can finally replace my broken iphone!
>>114750287Advent...
>>114750267Filian streamed to 3k ccv when she switched to YT for a minute before leaving. Normies clearly were not watching, would imagine the other two would experience similar numbers if they tried the same.
>>114750300Oh damn, the AI stopped getting views?
>>114750327Fuwamoco is JP
>>114750333>when she switched to YT
>>114750333her audience was twitch based she had 3k WHILE duel streaming
>>114750214What’s the bait? That management posted the tweet? That she’s probably stealth suspended?You sound like the illiterate brown mud hut dweller here.
>>114750316I meant whoever is the middle management person (most likely a nip) responsible for the homos, not the homos themselves or their talent managers, if they even have talent managers anymore.
>>114749343well at least he's honest about having nowhere else to go
>>114750366>>114750368Ahh right, her audience doesnt know what youtube is, and magically thousands decided not to tune in.
>otomocucks still on the "le serious family issues" for why that lazy bitch is still not streaming
>>114750408Do you remember what happens when a Hololive member streams on Twitch?
>>114749451is this the one with the spanish bf?
>>114750353People were watching for the soap opera drama romance, Neuro is boring as balls
>>114750408are you being intentionally dumb if you watch on twitch why would you watch on youtube during a duel stream
>>114750425They stream like valorant or something
>>114749986how are these girls both germanic but one is infinitely more likeable?
>>114750294homo managers are mostly women who want to fuck the homos, they had a weird thing going if you remember that one time manager was feeding axel cherries on stream.
>>114749597He's washed, he used to get 90k on a bad day
>>114750449They get 20% the viewership they would on their regular platform
>>114750437There were times she wasnt dual streaming, always stayed at around 3k.
AIEEEEEEEEEEEE>IS THIS THE MERGE YOU VOTED FOR!*!?!?!
>>114750458real germans (cc) are soulless robots you can program to be anything a authority figure says they need to be mountain germans (kiara) have more personality, their fiery and strong headed
>>114750490This is good hololive content
>>114750490This isn't gonna work on me, I watched that Minecraft eventIt was over a year ago
>>114749757this you?
>>114750490AZKi should do ear licking succubus ASMR
>>114750490i win
holoEN is dogshit nijiEN is dogshit phase is dogshit liggers are all dogshit i miss saba so fucking bad man why did she have to such a flake her content was godlike there is a reason she had the numbers she did
>>114750433it's funny because with all this new models Neuro is looking hella primitive and probably needs manual stirring from vedal
>>114750557Did you watch any of her Hytale streams?
>>114750557>dude gallons lmao>get it? the joke is cum!
>>114750375she literally said "I'm not stealth suspended" there is nothing more to discuss here now eat your pagpag.
>>114750557weird angle
>>114750593you're like a reddit atheist making fun of god, shush
>>114749757Bro you think they didn’t explain the merger to all of the talents? That her 5 minutes on Holo Next gave her the real info on what’s going to happen? They all know what’s happening. She’s filling the Fubuki role of PR for EN right now. And I say this as someone who likes both of those members a lot. But you have to be honest it’s PR management.
>>114750613oh you're like a bona fide touristhow quaint
> Kaela said in members that the branch budget is gone with the merger. Anything that ID wants to do needs to be wither paid from talent budget or proposed for a project approval from the combined budget. Now I really can't see why EN would be any different with the merger they really are fuck good luck trying to get that project approved vs someone like pekora
>>114748734KEK
>>114750557>her content was godlikewhat content???
>>114750657that is literally how the homo downsizing worked and was framed btwno more branch budget, everyone has to pay for themselvesevery talent has to fight on their own for resources
>>114750657yeah ID is fucked and a good bit of EN then,
>>114750657>>114750717Sounds like Holostar fans were right and it only took them a few months to come for ID and EN tooShould've listened to them
>>114750657So no danger to Autofist duo live, nice. Ceci just has to keep her head down and finish those filler songs already.
>>114750657Yes this was obvious for anyone who isn’t a retard or a corporate boot licker. It’s crazy how many people think this decision isn’t going to be bad for the former EN and ID members.
Woah
>>114749343One of the homoJP said that too kek
>>114750657If that's true then mass graduations are going to inevitably happenby 2028 only a skeleton will remain of both groups, probably 3 or 4 IDs and 7 or 8 ENs
>>114750657if im a EN girl im buddying up to miko ASAP fuck pekoleech
>Kaela said>no proof>15 repliesgrim
>>114750657Ah so that's why Kiara had such a meltyshe can't spam retarded bullshit anymore and has to actually make good decisions, something impossible for an SSRI-riddled woman
>>114750787i mean how many actually care about doing big projects i would be do what fauna did and focus on gaming
>>114750817is this your first time seeing a samefag or something lol?
>>114750817>>114750832>N-no you guys, the girls could NEVER have any problems with being downgraded you must be lyingBuy the membership and listen for yourself retards
>>114750846kys phasefag
>>114750787No budget, no projects to work on, why can't they just go back to streaming then? It's been complaints of overwork for years so this is their break to finally relax and coast with only the yearly fes and expo.
>>114749321uhm… shes still a runt thoughnot exactly "saved"
>>114750657proof?
>>114750874Getting abandoned might actually be the best thing for streams because it would mean an end to the four hours daily of mandatory useless meetings. But then again they would all piss and moan and not stream anyway.
>>114750657JP members has been doing that since forever (at least as early as 2020 since Coco talked about that). Are you telling me that EN and ID didn't need to make any proposal for their projects to get approval and funding until now?
>>114750818nobody knows shut the fuck up
>Lia said in her members stream that she's going to organize a phase box event with multiple vtubers including male vtubers (Armpiss included)Grim
>>114750874I really hope so.Forcing them to spend 9 months in Japan living out of a hotel instead of streaming is why EN is in the spot it’s in. They need to go back to streaming full time.
>>114750657>>114750717>>114750749>>114750753>>114750764>>114750766>>114750787>>114750818>it was said in a members stream>no proof providedHow convenient lol
>>114750951That was about personal projects. They mostly travel to JP for official projects so that doesn't apply
>>114750939>leaving out that she's inviting jelly, muyu, and nityaTried to be slick huh
Whats a "project" in this context exactly? If its something like kiaras hytale dogshit, thank god, money wont be wasted.
>>114750973Kaela's members only stream this week, at 40 minutes:"All of this time right? All this time, like Chromatic Future, HoloID concert right? It's just pure management project. Okay so we have management project and we have individual project and all of this time what we considered as management project gonna go by management budget and what we consider individual project gonna go by individual budget. Since there is no such thing as ID or EN anymore, there's no more budgement anymore for management project, so yeah. So if you ask me that, if HoloID really really wanted to still have a concert, of course we can, but there is no budget anymore for that because maybe we're gonna prioritize our own individual projects. So yeah... But again, propbably there will be more and more and more individual projects from each of your oshi, and this is not only happening on ID or EN, it's everybody guys. It's everybody, so like you know, I don't know guys changes are super scary but now each talent, each individual talent has more time to focus on individual projects somehow, and if they wanted to invite individual talents to their projects, it's good to go. And there is less things we are forced to do because it's like 'we will support what you want to do in what way you want to do' and it's more specific, kind of, yeah. I don't want to say all of this are pros, and all of this are cons. Everything has their own pros and cons"
>>114750657It's the same before the merge, though, just with their local branch's management and budget instead of the general group's management and budget now
>>114750619Ina talked about how because she was on the program she grilled them HARD on it and said if they couldn't convince her she'd refuse
>>114750892Gigi is like a top 3 merch seller amongst the English speaking talents in hololive (I hate I gotta phrase it this way instead of holoEN)
>>114751031lmaoooo the indogs actually got the homo treatment
>>114751031holy grim
>>114749125This guy is such a little bitch, he should be so embarrassed to be saying this publicly.Absolutely fucking melted down at the "Coverment" earlier this year but has no balls and no faith he can make it on his own, so he tucked his tail between his legs and sucked it up. Truly pathetic and unmanly. At the end of the day these dudes are just welfare recipients whining that their free money was cut, but they still want whatever little scraps are left because they have zero economic value elsewhere.
>>114750892She has become a runt because people are tired of her shit. She almost flopped hard after debut. Shitty numbers until enrico and the my pearl shit really turned her around.
I hear more about ph*se (0.67%) in this thread every day than I've heard about it in the entire rest of the internet combined in my entire life.
>>114750803dont need to announce yourself 53turd
>>114750657They had budget? lol
>Yagoo said in a members stream that Kiara slapped him in the faceHoly grim guys it's over
>>114751038Yeah, just like how she grilled Cover HARD for messing up her visa by... sitting on her ass for months and doing rm shit instead of taking a trip back to Canada and streaming.
There really are only complete retards left in this threadYou already have Ina's explanation and tons of holos being fine with the changeAll this dooming is beyond retarded and clearly done by retards or phase kids
>>114751013"budget" was never a thing lolmanagement gives them a budget per project there's no some ambiguous overall budget personal things are 99% funded by talents always
>>114751031OOF
>>114751093Get bent
>>114751089you seem upset
>>114751031Fuck that's grim
>>114751089Kek
>>114749279Gigi x Ame has been a thing since ENReco.CC x Shiori is mostly from collabs that included both and how they tend to tease each other, and also the kiss during the last concert.
>>114751032Obviously it's not the same if they say they used to have it and now they don't.
>>114751084BIG OOFYIKERINOS EVEN!
>>114751031no more EN concert kek
>>114751031Grim
Lol, a deflection so obvious, it could be put in front of a starship.
>>114750657I said this before. Any company funds for projects that EN/ID had (I'm sure it wasn't a lot) are all in one big pool now and are going to the top JPs instead if they need it.
>>114751132No, I jsut don't subscribe to the plebbitor mindset of "Ina said nice things and I trust her, hooray for the merger!".
>>114751031watch as corpo bootlickers ignore or deny this
>>114751031Oh no... Kiara was right....
>>114751031NTA and I didn't know the context, but this... sound dumb (dumber than what I'd expect from Kaela, at least). I'm still trying to see how she got to that conclusion.>All this time, like Chromatic Future, HoloID concert right? It's just pure management projectThis is true, and those concerts were started by the management and not ID members>Since there is no such thing as ID or EN anymore, there's no more budgement anymore for managementThis makes sense>So if you ask me that, if HoloID really really wanted to still have a concert, of course we can, but there is no budget anymore for that because maybe we're gonna prioritize our own individual projects. This doesn't make as much sense. Sure, they don't have specific ID budget anymore, but they can tap into the Hololive budget (which is now the sum of ID + EN + JP budget) and for management projects, if management want to, they will carry them out. So... I just don't see anything changes.
>>114751055>really turned her around>still a huge runtjesas why is she so unlikable
https://x.com/infectedcoolguy/status/2098115035520237860based grims celebrating
>>114751173oh you seem REALLY upset
>>114751051the EN management budget is also gone. It is universal within the company now.
>>114751165Obviously. How do you have an EN concert when there’s no EN branch anymore?
>>114751165Based.
>no timestamps, no links>just deflection
>>114751141It's just switching between their local budget and Hololive budget. She was talking about official projects so it's not like they didn't have to ask for approval from Hololive upper management before.
>>114750557Her content was mid because indies are giga debuffed without a corporate megaphone to build hype and interest in their stuff, unless it's a man like Peanut who can be his own force in the world
>>114750818Why is Kiara such a depressive cunt? Does she have daddy issues? Horrible experience with men? Genetic defect that makes her psychotic?
But ina said.....
>>114751044>always the lowest stock>because of that sells out first>shes so strong guys!!!!!damn you're retarded
>>114751031Enreco is dead. Kinda feel bad for justice desu
So now literally EVERYONE got the homo treatment.
So now that all of the stupid EN projects are dead that means there will be more streams and less dead hours right? Maybe more Minecraft server stuff.
spicy chicken sandwich or bacon cheeseburger
I saw a Reddit post saying that the boys don’t get a salary which I already saw being mentioned here. Then there were also comments being made that the girls don’t get a base salary either and that their YT earnings were mistaken as their salary. Is this even true? Because the holomems are contractors and not employees.
>>114751051>>114751053>>114751113>>114751134>>114751165>>114751169>>114751182>>114751191>samefag
>>114751111>>114751013See >>114751031. She wasn't talking about personal projects, she was talking about official projects like their concerts
>>114751193>This doesn't make as much sense. Sure, they don't have specific ID budget anymore, but they can tap into the Hololive budget (which is now the sum of ID + EN + JP budget) and for management projects, if management want to, they will carry them out. So... I just don't see anything changes.But why would management spend money on an ID project that would generate very little profit, when they can earn much more from another JP project?
>>114751263The +91 makes it so obvious when it doesn't even bother to change it's posting style
>>114750557She hasn't been good since 2022, as Saba she was phoning everything in as a zombie vtuber
>At aroundYeah, the phasefaggot is desperate
>>114749381>lost Ame>then lost Gura>then lost EN>then Kiara goneI knew the group would get smaller but damn it's only been two years.
>>114751031Thankfully #AphelionStage has arrived to save us, Gliese 667 streams live in 3D today!
now that all of hololive shars the same budget would this get made today?
>>114751243No, homos got defunded and no longer have a budget. Everyone get their budget combined together into one big pile. Different thing.
>>114751031Well that doesn't seem so bad. My lazy oshi just wont do projects I'll have more streams. Fuck the rest of the forced shit.
>>114751193>Sure, they don't have specific ID budget anymore, but they can tap into the Hololive budget (which is now the sum of ID + EN + JP budget) and for management projects, if management want to, they will carry them out. So... I just don't see anything changes.Sounds nice, until, let's say, Moona's manager, alongside other ID managers, puts together a project proposal for the big league managers and they just turn them down in order to give Pekore a second sololive instead. Or management decides to revive HLZNTL in their infinite wisdom and use the money for that.
>>114751199kek
>>114751260>Is this even true? Because the holomems are contractors and not employees.Holo talent disclosed multiple times that they have a base pay. With that said, even the lowliest of the girls can sell enough merch twice a year to beat a doctor in Germany in their share of the sales alone so any pay they get is dwarfed by that,>the homos can't, clearly
>>114751289>I knew the group would get smaller but damn it's only been two years.literally by logic it can ONLY get smaller
>>114751245It would if the current talents weren’t all burnt out from the Japan arcs already. They need to debut a bunch of new EN talents.
>everyone shares the budget nowso explain to me why would they invest in ID and EN?
>>114751278What if the first army doesn't want to, like what happened with Subaru and her Sololive, and Pekora and the possibility of a second Sololive
Ina is fucking bootlicker, I hate her now.
>>114751276I dont particularly care about those either, fes is more than enough, can only watch online anyway with working full time.
>>114751031...This doesn't sound so bad why is there like 8 people freaking out about it...Literally saying more individual projects how is that not good?
>>114751031>anon learns that asking for budget is all dependant on how well ideas are pitched by a talent.I think it was Nerissa who said it that she always has to make presentations and proposals with her manager for each project to pitch it to the project directors. If ID makes a good proposal, they will have an allocated budget for it. That's not any different than how it used to be especially with Sololives and Albums
>>114751165Good, it sucked having to sit through the others waiting until someone I wanted showed up
sachi just enjoyers
This retard is stupid.If the same is happening to the homos, then they should be included in the merger.Stupid Phase Shill has no logic
>another discord raidretarded phasecucks
>>114751346individual projects are funded by the talent themselves its a cost saving measure by cover
>>114751362Lia sent him into psychosis
>>114751312>Sounds nice, until, let's say, Moona's manager, alongside other ID managers, puts together a project proposal for the big league managers and they just turn them down in order to give Pekore a second sololive instead.That would be size but that's not what Kaela is talking about at all.What she's saying is that HoloID management had their own budget to give the ID girls projects without coming out of their own revenue Now that there is no more HoloID, like the rest of the company, any project of any group of girls have to come from their own personal budgets >like the 3D lives ALREADY are todayGiven the type of events HoloID was organising I'm not seeing a lot of loss for them
>>114751334So first army is going to get priority over project funds? So much for "equality".
>>114751093It's literally Phasetards deflecting because Lia had a meltdown on stream against Parasocial viewers and then immediately after revealed that she went to dinner with Flayon lmao>>114741249 >>114741349 >>114741499
>>114751278>But why would management spend money on an ID project that would generate very little profitThe same reason as before: why would management allocated ID a budget before the merge instead of keeping everything for JP to begin with? Because they are fine with throwing each regions (EN / ID) a bone now and then.
>>114749521It's the Holo vs Holo schizo. Next expect them to claim Kiara joining their made up "holo avenger" boogyman Nimi to "attack Cover" or something.
they're just looking for new angles
>>114751354Retard the difference is now they don't get branch budget that makes events happen on principle, they only get to propose shit which obviously means they will just get rejected in favor of Pekora
It's too early to draw conclusions, we have to wait at least a year to get the full picture.
So now every single holo has to fight against every other holo over a limited overall budget? And the decider of who gets it is higher Japanese management, especially the CFO (also Japanese)? You don't see how that could be a problem?
>>114751379Anon, individual projects funded by the talent is the backbone of Hololive since forever.It's even one of the reason they're not throwing SportsFes anymore
>>114749451>lumi gets a solo before kiaraKEK
The Homo budget was a fixed amount of money pooled from SCs, old merch, wages, etc. It was free use, but so limited it hasn't been used on anything more than a few shitty covers.
Everyone in EN who left is gone because they hate Japan and would rather die than join the JP branch.
i like how nobody wants to buy a kaela membership to prove him wrong people really think ID will get a boost from this merger kek
>>114751093Ina didn't explain a damn thing that's important anon regarding the merger. Nothing about new talent debuts, nothing about concerts like Serendipity. Just gave a bunch of vague ideas and "trust me bro, I'm totally not a doormat"
>>114751402>they're just looking for new angles>source is straight from a talents own mountdon't OD on that cope anon
>>114751413>nowThat's how it always was, with most of the Holo projects being funded by either individual girls or a group of them.
>>114751413By the time that it becomes obvious we will never get EN concerts again, people will just move on to "ummm that's a good thing we always hated EN branch anyway hurfdurr"
What exactly did you anons expect? It's corporate consolidation carried out by management. They do it for more power and control, not less.
>>114751419>random 3D live>solo livelol phasecuks are so retarded
>>114751385>What she's saying is that HoloID management had their own budget to give the ID girls projects without coming out of their own revenue>Now that there is no more HoloID, like the rest of the company, any project of any group of girls have to come from their own personal budgetsThat's not what she said >>114751031. She clearly specify that was about management project right there.
Not even a 700 dorya...
>>114751294Yeah, Gura and Ame could easily afford to commission people from twitter to make that gameshow again. They could probably do even more shows not needing to dance around everyone's manager and scheduling. Merger will boost the actual good personal projects.
>>114751433>people really think ID will get a boost from this merger kekI think some girls will and some girls won't and that the basic change, overall, is>there is no more middle management trying to prod the branches to organize projects or fund them
>>114751386No, it's a simple questionWhat happens to the funds when First Army doesn't want to use them. Or when a Second/Third Army sends a project. Like, how do you think resources are attributed inside HoloJP
>>114751452you lost :)>>114741249 >>114741349 >>114741499
>>114751413Higher Hololive management was the one who decided the budget to begin with. Where else did you think ID budget came from?
Oh I get it. Now if they want an EN concert they have to pool their own money collectively to make it happen while also having to give Cover their cut from the profits. Also the less holos willing to participate, the higher the cost for the individual holos that would want it.
>>114751461Anon don't blame them. Their shitters are too broke to afford a 3D live and a sololive will never happen for any of them
idk what the argument is over. this is a crossroads and you'll just have to wait and see if they stick with their idea of better supporting all talents or take a turn towards resembling niji. If ID and EN (and smaller JPs) start getting ignored and neglected because they aren't the biggest earners in the company then they'll just leave and it will completely tank hololives reputation outside of Japan. i said outside because Japan itself seems to have almost brainwashed levels of bootlickers for whatever company they support, regardless of their behavior.
>it's just a conspiracy theory loser it's not gonna happen>well it might happen but it's a low chance>you should be glad it happen it's for the better <---we are here>it was always done this way stop complaining
>>114751419Kiara has had many 3d lives anon.
>>114751405>the difference is now they don't get branch budget that makes events happen on principle, they only get to propose shitYou think that even when they had "branch budgets" that they didn't have to propose shit and get management's accord?
>>114751389>Story about going to diner with himGosh
>>114751498I refuse to believe Kiara is the only one who can count 1+1 and realize this is the obvious outcome.
>>114751391>The same reason as before: why would management allocated ID a budget before the merge instead of keeping everything for JP to begin with? Because they are fine with throwing each regions (EN / ID) a bone now and then.Because they wanted to allocate funds to try and grow the branches. By doing away with the branches, they no longer have to give a budget to EN/ID projects, and can freely spend the budget towards JP instead.
>>114751462>She clearly specify that was about management project right there.I'm not sure where you and I are disagreeing here. I am saying that before ID management had a fund to spend on projects for ID girls and now they don't, and that the girls (like the girls from the rest of the company) can still have their projects, but they have to procure the budget either from their own generated revenue or by pitching it to the company,.
>>114751433I don't need to prove him wrong because what he said (well, Kaela said) makes sense logically. It's just that Kaela's conclusion doesn't make as much sense
>>114751433Well the fact that the new managers finally fixed the Sociabuzz problem is more than enough proof that it is working.Having one manager that you have to share with JP is better than having no manager AT ALL
>>114751498But if the girls are paying for everything why do they have to give a cut to Cover? What kind of scam is this?
Cover is a business. The goal is to make money. If you're not making money you don't deserve a bigger budget.
nigga how the fuck would we know if the merger was good or bad anyway, EN didn't do shit besides enreco anyway, the whole branch outside of advent feels like a bunch of mercenaries
>>114751535>Well the fact that the new managers finally fixed the Sociabuzz problem is more than enough proof that it is working.What was about that anyway? Was ID management so incompetent they lost the girls a source of revenue that the company management fixed on day one?
>>114751498so what even is the point in pitching in for the concert? not like you get % of the ticket sales back
>>114751498kek good luck getting mori's stingy ass to give a dime for it lolexpect more RM content in the coming month though
>>114751031>still hasn't shown any proof and expects me to believe what he postslmfao. There's a very easy way to prove what you're saying btw but you won't and just want to hide behind the convenient excuse of "it's members stream"
>>114751413No because my oshi has good ideas and also won't be forced into dumbass company projects anymore
Imagine the advent and Mori projects now that they have a single budget. Lol promise though
>>114751498No? Do you not understand business? A less profitable branch of the company was merged into the main one so that they could give the less profitable ones MORE money and resources. God you people are stupid.
>>114751539Because Cover created and owns you (the IP)
>>114751532>the girls (like the girls from the rest of the company) can still have their projects, but they have to procure the budget either from their own generated revenue or by pitching it to the company.I said exactly this >>114751354, but anon is retarded and thinks all ENID stuff will be rejected because of JP favoritism
>>114751539>But if the girls are paying for everything why do they have to give a cut to Cover?They don't. Nimi is not giving anyone any cut, nor any of the myriad of Indies in the market.Maybe your theory is that Cover doesn't provide anything they couldn't do on their own but there is a very long line of ex holo girls with a significant pay cut in the market right now to prove that assessment wrong.
>>114751560There was no ID management since at least 2024. It was the same situation NijiEN is currently
>>114751491Before the merge, if First Army wanted to eat up all of the available JP funds, at least EN and ID funds would still be safe. Now they are no longer safe. If First Army wants to go all out with events/projects, EN/ID will be SOL unless they use their personal funds.
To date there has never been a company that treats its employees well.
>>114751525They aren't "doing away with the branches" because they wanted to drop those region. They are "doing away with the branches" because they want to fix management issues and make those groups grow furtherThe only reason this should be a concern is if you believe Holo management gave up on EN and ID and won't bother trying to give them anything anymore (which is basically what both niji and homosisters have been trying to claim)
>>114751561almost like that was the goal
>>114751549The side branch getting folded into the main one is never a good sign in any company setting.
>>114751316So it’s just retarded homo fans coping because that comment section is convinced that if the boys don’t get paid then it must mean the girls don’t get paid either lmao
holy discord raid, what's the point of doing that?
>>114751560There hasn't been an ID head manager since 2024. The position has been vacant for 2 years
Didn’t you guys hate EN concert and wish they stop doing it so they can focus on streaming? There you go.
>>114751389LMAOHoly shit. Phasetards really lost big time. >outright admits to being friends with Flayon and going to dinners with him
>>114751596Shut the fuck up Ina said its fine and almost all of them said things will be better now, and they would never be positive just so they don't get punished for speaking out against their employer so we know they're telling the truth.
>literally 0 streams todayno wonder the holobronies are chimping out today
>>114751595>If First Army wantedBut they don't, no one wants to do more work than the strictly necessary
>>114751549>anon forgets Serendipity
>>114751596you just have to treat them well enough
>>114751587>but anon is retarded and thinks all ENID stuff will be rejected because of JP favoritism>>114751595>If First Army wants to go all out with events/projects, EN/ID will be SOL unless they use their personal funds.That's dumb as fuck considering most company funded events end up being done by Towa or Botan, and the reason for that is because they actually come forward with the plan and organize the whole thing.IMO one of the biggest beneficiaries of this will be Mori more than anyone else in the company
>>114751590>Nimi is not giving anyone any cut, nor any of the myriad of Indies in the market.Nimi also has to carry the losses of Skyline Serenade by herself with Pheobe, Mint and Cake Princess
HoloEarth will save the cmpany
>>114751498No, there is the other option of Jenma + previous project managers working for the EN branch putting together a request for the next concert.However, it will be turned down and Cover will do a second general concert in Japan instead, because why wouldn't they?And it's not even going to be bad for those who want to perform, but we know from previous concerts that HoloEN can fill a reasonably large venue for two days for concertgoers in NA. Now those fans have to spend 2-3K if they want to see a concert. How do you think the western percentage of concertgoers will change based on that?
>>114751532Sorry, anon. I misunderstood you. I thought you meant to say that ID management were giving the girls' funding for their personal projects and now the girls have to fund their personal projects with their own budget.
>>114751596Anon, Micron and Samsung employees got massive payday in Korea.Stop trying to 1:1 compare companies from different stages of Capitalism, it really makes you look like you haven't experienced being in a job (besides phase shill)
>>114751539If the girls pay for their own music and fans send SC to congratulate them on it, does Cover take a cut of the SC?
What's this raid trying to distract us from?
>kiara has to run to RM flesh projects by oshispark and whore out her self in cosplay because Cover slashed their budget and kiara cant make anymore kpoop MVs
>hololive wants to be global brand>closes the two global branchesYou can't make this shit up are you idiots really this naive?
>>114751664That just adds to my argument that the value of management is not zero and some girls went out of their ways to test that hypothesis >kson comes to mind
>>114751563Mori, the one who usually pays for the group ryokan trips?
>>114751686retarded phasecuck
>>114751578>so that they could give the less profitable ones MORE money and resources
>>114751673>Samsung employees got massive paydayThey had to go on strike for it. Samsung didn’t want to but their hand was forced. Do we expect EN and ID to go on strike?
>>114751672No no, I mean>HoloID management carried HoloID-wide projects out of their own separated budgetand >nothing prevents the HoloID girls, like other girls before them, from funding similar projectsIIRC Miko funded HoloGTA and Miko + Mio funded the SportsFes
>>114751686they're hoping americans will start caring about japs
>>114751678I doubt it's a raid. It's just anon being retarded and possibly Kaela being dumb and thought Holo management won't give ID / EN any budget or won't greenlight any of their official project anymore
>>114751686Holy shit you phasecucks are retarded
>>114751576>Lol promise thoBae and IRyS sololives...
>>114751686Sometimes you got to cut your legs off to win the race anon.
>>114751705you cant blame phase for everything idjiot
>>114751713It was more about the exact split, the employees were getting it regardless.
>>114751686there's no point in trying to actually have a coherent discussion when shitposters are like rabid dogs right now. no one knows what's going to happen and yet you have retards speaking in factual terms not even a week after the change.
>>114750489AAAIIIIEEEE outfitschizo don't look!
>>114751498>Now if they want an EN concert they have to pool their own money collectivelyNot really. They can do like gen 5 (for instance) and pitch a company led group wide concert.
>>114751707That was sarcasm to point out how retarded it is by the way. Why the fuck would a company thats only obligation is to the shareholders and making more money restructure to save money somehow turn around and give those people MORE money lmao. This is the real world, not fantasy land.
So how will this effect the animations like hologra, dance shorts, or the more memy ones they actually record for? I don't see any of them having an idea to make that their personal project. Ceci made like two shorts in 3D during her debut and never again after saying she had other ideas (but that's common for her to abandon things like that.
>>114751726It's such an obvious raid. The thread was dead and all of a sudden it's popping with activity with multiple posts per minute?
>>114751619it's a positive for the girls who are actually motivated to do shit and want to participate in box projects.
if this means that they will finally start streaming more instead of wasting time and money in shit that nobody cares about then I'm fine with the merger.
>>114751726>It isn't a raid.The deflection over the Lia yab is so obvious, it might as well be put on loudspeaker, phaseshill.
>>114751756Ok my bad. Some people who have never worked in corporate actually think businesses would do that
>>114751726>dead thread>suddenly 50 posts
>>114751644There's a sponsorship thing and then Japan prime time gets a myth stream
>Everything I don't like is a discord raid
>>114751760I got home and saw drama in the drama thread, what else to you expect me to do?
>>114751726>won't give ID / EN any budgetthere is not internal entity to give this budget to anymoreyou pay with your own money, or you take a Cover loan, or you apply personally for project funds from upper management
>>114751776So everyone but EN
Protip: Notice how it pivoted to "No Streams" after "I heard it from a Member Stream" had pushback.
>>114751758>So how will this effect the animations like holograThis was always company funded and, more than that, didn't even had funds when it started with some staff staying back after hours to animate the girls MMDs and ask them for voice lines.>dance shortsThis, unless I'm really wrong, was always out of each girl initiative.>or the more memy ones they actually record for?Likewise. Actually this one costs pretty much nothing since the "self booth", all the girl has to do is to book it and do whatever.All the way back in the Coco-Haachama shitpost era it was the same btw, they would just pop in the studio and do their hijinks
Kek homofan melty
>>114751735>>114751389
>>114750557She was better as Gura but yeah she was good, just couldn't stream.
>>114751814>"Suddenly going from 1/2 post every 5 minutes to 5ppm all of a sudden is very natural g-guys. It's not a raid"
>>114751498If you understand women psychology, you will realize they will NEVER pool money for anything. Why? Every dollar they donate to some group project is a dollar they are not investing into their own individual projects. Group stuff is cute and whatever, but every girl at the individual level earn almost nothing from it. Group projects have always been about promoting the brand and the branch. Cover no longer sees the point of investing in the branch.
>>114751829nigga this literally happened a couple of hours ago.
>>114751433The Kaela stream was over 72 hours ago, if she really said anything you would have heard about it from containment breakers within 24 hours. Plus the Phasepag doesn’t realize that Kaela has a general in towa.
I work for a JP company that recently merged all of its different global branches (NA, SA, EMEA, APAC, etc.) into one entity. Resulted in all of our local support structure getting canned and my team being assigned to support customers on the opposite side of the world, requiring us to join calls in the middle of the night. Businesses care more about making & saving money than they do about creating a healthy work environment.
You retards really think a japanese corpo is going to give the same fair treatment to the indo and mutts as they give their japanese talents when they didn't do it before the merger fucking kek
>>114751855>he says this alongside cliquepostingThe phase shill is broken.
>>114751828There is. There are still managers working for EN / ID. It's just that instead of different branches working independently, they are now different teams, working under the same big Hololive management
>>114750657But there was no members' stream.
>talents are now forced to focus on individual projectPlease be true. Let the useless ones rot and leave them behind instead of dragging their corpses into projects
>>114751870was it in english?
>>114751870>corpo mandated shitty collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plxn3by4zwg
>>114751870Damage control collab
>>114751891https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfB1QiL7Cn8yeah
>>114751913this isn't in english
>>114751885This? https://youtu.be/3LTvDYp8GYs
>>114751879You don’t even have to work for a Japanese company. A normal tech company will do that when they merge subsidiaries lol
>>114751913ok now lets see jp's speak english
>>114751903I don't take opinions from people that aren't professional musician or have less then 1 million subs that video is the equivalent of /here/ post from some faggot
You could have just listened to Ina's explanations or look at the fact that like 60+ holos are ok with this change and fine with itBut sure let's believe the dooming hysterical chicken instead hurr no more EN hires ever no more concerts no more EN streams no more anything durrr
So Gigi won't be able to do her September 21st stream ever again since she'll have to submit it for approval?
>it's not a raid>old Kiara catalog thread bumpedPhase aren't sending the brightest, it seems.
>>114751913>a yes let me play out the gaijin stereotype for niphave some shame mori
>>114751879Seems you misunderstood what merges and restructures are for. Us brown people and unemployed eurofags know about business and you shou7ld expect your departments allotted resources to double in the coming months.
>>114751938https://youtu.be/FfB1QiL7Cn8?t=146here you go with a timestamp
>>114751726It's probably is. Either that, or a bunch of anons turned retarded at the same time, take your pick
>>114751969>HAHA ENGRISHHUUU WHAT XDDstop being obtuse
>>114751940 you mean the opinion from EN that live in japan so cover favors them slightly more then the other worthless gaijins
>>114751838>imagine how people would react if someone in 2020 took a low-sub JP member and said "haha nobody watches them"LMAO; these people have no sense of scale whatsoever. In 2020 The Holo girls were already on the way to their current level of strength and even the least viewed one (Moona) would be ahead of all present day homos but Roberu.Those fags don't know how weak the holostars are, there is no comparison with the girls at any level or point in time
That didn't happen and if it happened it doesn't count
>when given proof that the JPs are speaking English>laugh it off because anti-asian racismI think this is the actual sentiment.
>>114751913Nigga im watching this rn are u me?
>>114752004More than that: Choco SUB channel, in 2020, would mog every present day homo in every metric INCLUDING subs and VOD Views
>>114751334Pekora choose her genlive instead of 2nd sololive
>>114752025i just dont want to ever hear japanese ever
>>114751686lets speak on retard doodoo head terms for these botsimagine if hololive general merged with globalyou cant defend it.
>>114751940What if I make up my own mind based on my own values and analysis rather mindlessly "taking sides" with one woman or another?
>>114751989you might hate it but normies don't care and will still watch it
>>114752058Sure, do that. Then you're probably not the kind of person spamming "RIP HOLO IT'S OVER NO MORE EN CONTENT EN CONCERTS OR ANYTHING ELSE" in here all day.
>>114752058Your own values is >>114752025
>>114752025you mean those same JPs that fuck off once they got big JP audience and never did anything for English speaker again?
Schizos got tired? Its quiet again
>>114752032i am u
i still believe haachama is being held against her will by cover
>>114751940Yeah everything should be taken at face value because they would publicly say it wasnt good if it was bad.Cons of speaking out against your Japanese employer>less opportuniies>less resources>banished to a closet in the hopes that you quit>ostracized by coworkersPros of speaking out against your Japanese employer>none
Doctor, I finally solved it. It's not a Phase shill, it's just a Murrican who thinks he's still in /pol/
>>114752105they're trying to think of the next angle since all the previous ones got debunked
>>114752118Spoken like a true unemployed NEET
We are getting slaughtered. I can't take this anymore. I am taking a break from the holosphere.
>>114752039And that's a good examples of it>If HoloJP decides for any reason to add HoloEN or HoloID into a project. Or viceversa, if a HoloEN project or HoloID project involves HoloJP (NOT First Army, what?)The entire discussion revolves around thinking that this is Niji and the First Army will hoard resources because they're irrelevant otherwise. First and even Second Army needs nothing that they don't already have. And Cover won't push First Army to make more events because they can just take their things and leave
>>114752004The way I read his post is like, “Shhh, please don't mention their CCVs, or I'll have to watch their streams.” Imagine having “fans” like that.
>>114751686Yagoo's playing 4D chess, trust the plan
>>114752118Yes yes Kiara is right about everything and everyone else is lying
>>114752135I make about 200k a year and own a home, and have a career. There is literally zero upside to speaking negatively about something Cover does so why would they do it? I'm not saying they're lying but I'm also saying if it was bad they have zero reason to publicly say so.
/MAS/meltdowns and seethe general
>>114752149>lock himself out his office recentlyI don't think he is anon...
>>114752138This. Cover cannot put all their resources into 1st army because they are even more fucked if they left. If anything, they better off if the “runts” are the ones organizing successful events. That will keep 1st army in check
>>114752156sometimes its unironically like that
>>114752160No payslip, no proof. Want to post anonymous, post as anonymous and not as if you're a bum.
does no one know what is a SURGE Townwhere are the nijifags at
Do you retards seriously believe there isn’t room in a pooled budget for EN concerts? A pooled budget would hurt the B and C lister JPs the most because they have no appeal overseas and can’t compete with first army. English speaking talent give access to revenue streams that the rest don’t have so they are still in a strong position to get funding
>>114750657Pekora, Miko, Suisei, Fubuki and Marine will get all the favoritism and first dips in all JP/ID/EN sides . Mori and Ollie will pull together to get sing concerts out but likely can rope in and afford the biggest and strongest singers of ID/EN so the same few people. Gura's gone so no way money is going to be given out to EN, Mori will have to help push every single thing. ID is also reliant on how well EN does. JP will burn out from the bottom up but slower than the other two.Outside the same top 5-8 people everyone else is fucked
>>114752118>Pros of speaking out against your Japanese employer>noneWhat stopped the 2022-2023 Homo push? And don't say profits because they almost doubled in company size. What do you think happened inside the company after, say, the sixth anniversary?
>>114751316wasn't salary a legacy from the pre-2020 era and not applicable to newer members?
Is this MERGER the reason why Gura, Fauna, Mumei, and Ame left?
>>114752160Have you considered that, if it was bad, they would have 0 reason to publicly said otherwise?
>>114752204no but they saw the writing on the wall
>>114752077People often post exaggerated caricatures of opinions here, but often end up having a point regardless. Personally I am more concerned than hopeful and Ina's stream did little to persuade me because she didn't really address them. I think folding EN into Holo erases it more than making the former menbers part if a "global brand". I'm sympathetic to the idea that they wanted to cut costs by getting rid of uselss EN managers, but don't think that necessitated the branding system. And I remain worried they'll have to compete with much bigger JPs and will therefore end up starved of resources and demoralized. I wish I could share her optimism, and maybe I would if I could hear what she heard internally, but I didn't, and therefore I honestly can't. If my worries turn out to be unfounded, great, but they usually aren't.
>>114752186And this is definitely not one of those timesShe's a menhera depressed fuck who's hysterical
>>114752198Just be part of fubukis and Miko’s manager clique and you will get benefits
>>114752193I don't need to prove anything to you, anyone with an IQ above 50 knows that if there is no positive to doing something (publicly bash the hand that feeds you) and only possible negative outcomes, that 99% of people are going to avoid doing it.
>>114752197Ok but EN leeches will never "pool" anything because all their events were done with management money. No more money now = 0 projects. Poorfag EN failures don't have money like Marine who can make $1M music videos with her spare income.
>>114751877not if she spoke indonesian to hide it from Cover ninjas
>>114752233>CliqueWhy Nijicultist are like that?
>>114752202Moona said they have salary of a part-time JP waitress so either we believe that they still have a salary, or Moona was admitting that ID was only making... less than $2K a month (that's homo level or perhaps only slightly higher). The latter is rather unlikely
>>114751726Kaela is the smartest Holo in Hololive, even smarter than Ina.
>>114752194Some GTA roleplay streamer server I imagine
So how bad would things need to get to make Cover reverse this dumb merge?
>>114752204Ame left because she's very stupid and thought she'd be more creatividad and get her spark backthat didn't happenGura left because they asked her to come to work more often than 8 times a year and vshojo was actively Wormtonguing her sharkholeMumei left because sick and lazy but remembered a year later that she needs money to live and is becoming a vtuber againFauna left because Japan is not vegan friendly, she didn't like that the Holostars, her very close friends were being ~mistweated~, and she got Wormtongued by vshojo and Gura
Just be Japanese.
>>114752287It's not dumb and a positive thing overall for a multitude of reasonsLeave already Kiara
>>114752287a ENID strike
>>114752273She seems smart most of the time, which was why her conclusion was rather confusing. The only way for her conclusion to be true is if Holo management will never greenlight any ID group project anymore
>>114752294>vshojo collapse>saba goes dead silentnoticing
>>114752261It’s simple pattern recognition. It becomes very noticeable when it’s always the same members in all the collabs. They’re all women and of course they don’t have to get along with everyone else so it’s natural cliques form
>>114752294i find it unrealistic that 4 talents left in ways that put the blame solely on them
I think that people that feel they have nothing to lose are more likely to tell the truth and speak up versus people that stand to lose more.
>>114752304>a positive thing overall for a multitude of reasonsName one
>>114752287Only way they'd ever reverse is if the talents full on revolted, like a significant amount of them, especially ones that actually matter (not ID runts and Kiara)If some combo of Miko, Suisei, Marine, Pekora, and Shuba told them to reverse they'd do it
>>114752330LMAO>he does it for free
>>114752272ID making less than 2k a month (besides Kaela) is likely true
>>114752294phasetroon
>Cover has spent the last two years trying to move as far away from First Army as possible (and failing, but still)>...but now with the merge they will dedícate everything to First ArmyI will first see a fucking Moona Sololive than a Subaru one, things don't happen in a vacuum
>>114752273Kaela doesn't even know that if she doesn't eat food she'll die.
repost
>>114752287Full EN/ID talent strike is about the only way
>>114752324There is no "blame" outside of shitpost. Unironically, there is nothing wrong with wanting to be in retirement mode or not liking to travel to JP too often. It's just difference in opinions and directions. Neither sides were to blame
>>114752287You'd need the entirety of JP to whine about this change, however the merge only fucks the worthless sidebranches up, so that will never happen.
>>114752156She's right, but it won't matter.
>>114752287>>114752338I'll mention this once more because it doesn't seem to be sticking: Hololive is an inherently escapist hobby and that filters both the talent and the audience for conflict avoidance.Hobbyists will stick with their hobbies and when it stops being worth their while they won't revolt, they'll just leave.One of the BIGGEST indicators someone is an "outsider" in this hobby is an "appeal to activism", something that is much more characteristic of the fanbases of the other companies (Niji, Phase).
>>114752320you're wasting your time some these loser have never work with let alone spoken to woman.
>>114752320Anon, you can’t just import the “pattern recognition” you see with Nijisanji over to Hololive.I don’t even know why I’m trying to reason with a Nijicultist. It’d be easier to teach a monkey how to play the mandolin.
>>114752287Kiara suicide
>>114752335Easier perms for games since perms will be for all of hololive.Easier access to sponsorships from companies.Less pressure from investors since they won't be able to single out side branches and make demands.Better sense of belonging with everyone else instead of feeling segregated. No more having to adhere to ID-only rules about no swimsuit outfits on stream.
>>114752324You can definitely assign some blame when it comes to Ame, Mumei, and maybe FaunaBut Gura I really don't know what people wanted differently from Cover thereShe ghosted sponsorships, even big ones with the fucking city of Tokyo and just stopped responding to *anyone* even genmates and managers for weeks at a time and they STILL didn't punish herHer issues, as they've always been across every single persona, stem from the fact that she's just terminally fucking lazy
>>114752287It can't be undone.
>>114751031>b-but Kiara! she complained and had a melty guys!>women moment am I right? >why are you mad at Cover!? Kiara is to blame > . . also Nimi was smug on stream today>why are you still complaining about the merger!?/vt/ before using their brain.
The only way Cover reverses course is if SatanCubes and Senzawa release a disstrack on them, (Impossible)
>>114752392do women stop being women when they work for hololive
>>114752330>there are people here who believeWho? This guy doesn't produce anything
Every single rrat is just a nijisister kamikaze. Every rrat applies to niji but they just want any other corpo to share the same rrats. That's why their so obsessed with the "black company" label and "cliques"
>>114752332I like this Shiori.
>>114751940the same people spamming no more EN will just pretend they never said it when a new EN group drops anyway, it's pointless to engage with the retards
What happen?
>>114752358I little fat is okay.
Sayana is not a very good gamer
>>114752422just because niji was the worse offender that doesn't mean the same isn't happening in other companies just not as bad
>>114752287We should get #holoENsuicide trending on Twitter where we all agree to kill ourselves on a certain day if they don't bring EN back.
>>114752413The NijiEN clique wasn't made up entirely of women
God can't wait for holo en to die for good and this thread to be gone
>>114751231it is not dead but it is more open. there might be new heros joining battle but they need to communicate in english
With each passing day Cover proves Kiara right.
>>114752401>Easier perms for games since perms will be for all of hololive.lol>Easier access to sponsorships from companies.for the top dogs, sure>Less pressure from investors since they won't be able to single out side branches and make demands.yeah instead they can single out the talent instead, totally much better>Better sense of belonging with everyone else instead of feeling segregated.tell that to the EOP's>No more having to adhere to ID-only rules about no swimsuit outfits on stream.literally doesn't mean shit
>>114752451She tries
>>114752404All white women act like parasites. It is the natural order of things when women live very comfortable easy lives.
>>114749614niji "no golds" sanjiKWAB
>>114752453Everything cover does is good no matter what im not in a cult btw
>>114752465Why are these anons attributing it to just women, when the WWE is a goldmine for this type of behavior?
>>114752470You could have just said you're a shitposting phasefag to begin with
Why did Ina agree to these terms? I don't understand.
>>114752499I accept your concession
>>114752194Nobody watches nijidogshit, they can only use their Anycolor Engine™ bots to make it over 10k.
>>114752505Because those terms were made up by Phase shills.
>>114752505Deep down every gook yearns for the nip boot.
>>114752510Says the one going "rumao lol kekkaroo" at everythingYou're a joke and just got cucked by Flayon fucking your oshi
>>114752534frenchfag melty
>always has anti-asian racist quipI'm noticing.
>>114752437he is implying that what has happened to the homos has now happened to the holos (he is correct)
>>114752497There are a lot of incels in this hobby, and for once, they’re not on the unicorns’ side.
>>114752561Then he's dumb. Logic states that if that's the case, Then Holostars should be part of the merger
if takashi wants my big america dollar i expect pandering not putting a bunch of high pitched asian women on my screen
>>114752389The usual actors have been gunning for Hololive's Selen for any inconvenience, it is little more than a thirst for blood.I can't take any argument seriously when the shitposts against the merge are the same as the arguments against those unpaid artists from late 2024.
>>114752505Ina doesnt really have any ambition and is okay with doing simple streams, nothing else.ME ME ME Kiara needs to have 6 kanauru slop projects a year or else she fucking kills herself
I want more high pitched asian women on my screen
>>114752534>You're a joke and just got cucked by Flayon fucking your oshiOOF
>>114752620Also, she's swimming in ArkKnights cash.
>>114752534shioribros...
>>114752534phasecucks not like this...
>>114748365This is what I call karma :)
>When it's the girl: Indie are perfect all them should go indie and leave the black corpo>When it's the fags: [see picrel]
>>114752534Shiori??
>>114752401>Easier perms for games since perms will be for all of hololive.EN doesn't need to be dissolved for this to happen>Easier access to sponsorships from companies.EN doesn't need to be dissolved for this to happen>Less pressure from investors since they won't be able to single out side branches and make demands.Investors own less than 50% of the company who cares>Better sense of belonging with everyone else instead of feeling segregated.Completely subjective BS>No more having to adhere to ID-only rules about no swimsuit outfits on stream.Has nothing to do with branch names
>>114751903HOLY MOGGED
>>114752678>>114752648No, Lia. You might want to keep up with the news.
>>114752453>>114752490I would agree with this point in isolation but you retards always go for the most malicious interpretation possible on every little thing and when there are multiple competing observations you always go with the most negative. So no I'm not going to agree with your points and I'm going to doubt your motives. Especially when you go around calling the people who simply won't back the most negative conclusion possible a "bootlicker"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KxkqV1oeLI
>>114752689fill me in bro
>>114752716see>>114741349(Cross-thread)and>>114745156(You)
>>114752716just ctrl+f lia dude it's linked in this thread.
>>114752687GiGi is such debuff you will lose phase
>>114752756why is she not brown?
>>114752773because she's not indonesian like you
>>114751332Why did they invest in them before?
You know, there's a possibility that Phase talents are intentionally doing this to punish the toxic elements of their Fandom.
>>114752799It kinda tracks, some of them have Holo oshis.
>>114751880Even ina basically came down to "I hope they follow through and it's good"Everyone is just HOPING Cover isn't shit
>>114752784Bibrown is not indonesian but she IS brown
>>114752799phasecucks deserve it, they're the same as nijiniggers
>>114752824Why would they shit on gachikoi fans if they have holo oshis and want to be more like them
Here is a short list of retarded shit Cover has done post going public. So I am just going to wait and see what happens ->Devis Brand>MekPark>Holo Earth>Serendipity Concert location and timingEven this merger announcement was so poorly done. Hype up your 10 year anniversary only to be a boring, corpo rebranding and internal all branch merger only to then contradict that by announcing an anime project that only features HoloJP
>>114752824who cares
>>114752844serendipity was fine its just holoEN isn't a draw
>>114751940This whole fiasco should have Kiara terminated honestly. Fucking cunt whore bitch caused drama for the entire company.
>>114752844nijiseethe
>>114752867>serendipity>was finenot selling out is not fine
>>11475288899% of vtuber ''drama'' doesn't matter and neither does kiara's melty, people will forget about it in 2 weeks
>>114752906holofag cope
>>114752895it didn't sell out because holoEN doesn't have a big musical talent, besides it was short like 500 tickets big whoop
>>114752739cute :3 does shiowi have any funny videos?
>>114752716niggas will unironically say shit like>fill me in broand insist they aren't gay
>>114752922sinder got fucking character assassinated by 5 top liggers and shes back streaming like nothing happened
We all know that without Gura investors weren't interested in keeping Hololive EN going, the merger was necessary no matter what.
>>114752906This merger will ripple into every aspect of holo for the next few years. Holy head in the sand retard cope
>>114752934No, but shes excited for stars concert
>>114752966Why do I keep clicking on random tweets?
One guy
>>114752964At only 20% her original audience. Thats somehow a win for you? She already uploaded her whore naked irl tits btw if you didnt know
>>114752294Gura left because everyone Cover kept screwing over were the people she gave a shit about: Aqua - her oshi; Ame - her best friend; Shion - her best JP friend; Fauna - her closest vtuber friend who oshied her; Chloe, a part of her international idol group Umisea; Mumei, her SNOT friend who hung out with her; A-Chan, a friend to Holo EN
WHEN NIMI NIGHTMARE DIESWHEN NIMI NIGHTMARE DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN NIMI NIGHTMARE DIES
>>114752888the IDs were a lot of it too, I mean it's definitely gonna look bad when the company does something the fans are inherently suspicion of and the talents are too unenthused to reassure the audience
>>114749080Oomf-One Of My Followers
pekora graduates and a prime gura returns to hololive deal?
>>114753085hell no
>zero EN streamsy-ya isn't t-this great g-guys
>>1147264654-14 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>1147529812718 is a based THD enjoyer
>>114749614 5-9 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>114753132this but unironically
I like this
>>114752404I dunno if it's just laziness, I've known people who go through weird episodes where they just disconnect and stop talking to everyone, hell I almost do that myself, but I'm still willing to answers calls and stuff generally. In her case in kinda feels like some combination of burnout and nervous breakdown, just because of the pattern over the years, but who knows. I feel like if it was just pure laziness and selfishness, there's a lot of other things should could have done to leech and skate by while taking it easy.
>>114753159Gymbro does too
>>114751880Fubuki already said she doesn't know if ID would be getting the same salary as JP suggesting that EN ID were already getting lower pay than JP before the merger
Kaela is slowly becoming ID's Kiara, because she's too honest.
>>114753221fubuki talks a lot for someone who doesn't know a lot
>>114750657Of COURSE that's how it's gonna work. You people are in extreme denial because you want to keep posting about hololive winning in this thread instead of actually caring about hololive talents. The purpose of the merge is to discourage the foreigners from trying and to make them quit one by one so they can shift their focus entirely on being a JP-only company. The purpose of removing branches is for Cover to use it as a shield.>A few years down the line, some (now former) IDs and ENs quit>Hey Cover, some of these girls quit so... are we getting new ENs or IDs to make up for it?>there is no ID or EN we are all hololive lole :) >they keep debuting new JP-only gens like they are literally doing right now They don't want to become global, they want to promote their JAPANESE-ONLY product to the world. Is it retarded? yes, but don't take it up with me, ask Cover why they think that's a good idea. Yagoo is a fucking stupid retarded nigger that gets walked on by higher ups despite supposedly being CEO btw, he was literally never "good", not in the entire history of the company. He represents shareholders and whoever else wants to fucking destroy and homogenize the company into a soulless husk. All those tea parties with him where had 1 on 1 conversations with the girls amounted to nothing, it was all performative, typical in Japanese companies. He was just playing the role of the caring and kind ojisan CEO but the merger still happened even though no one wanted that shit. He doesn't care.
>>114753228>Kaela is slowly becoming ID's Kiara, because she's too honest.I have a nice bridge for sale
Is this what merge look like?
>>114750657
>>114753243They had their little tea parties and he realized these bitches are retarded and not worth the money, shut that shit down.
>>114753049Be real, it's Cover blading their older audience and older talent who don't like the way things have changed. Their staff (~750 people) aren't there to support the initiatives of the talent or make (you) happy, except as a means to an end. They're there to support the initiatives of the executives and increase value for shareholders. That's what a corporation does. It's not a family and it's certainly not a charity.
Lia is my girlfriend, please don't be parasocial or I get jealous.PS. Hare Rāma Hare RāmaRāma Rāma Hare HareHare Kr̥ṣṇa Hare Kr̥ṣṇaKr̥ṣṇa Kr̥ṣṇa Hare Hare
>>114753129That's what (You) get for hyping up the Overlap Hell over the years. Watch better vtubers by the way.
Jurard just said there will be multiple collabs with the girls this month
>>114753085Prime gura couldn't even beat a comfy Pekora, go rope ENshart.
>>114751726>Kaela is retarded>the only ID member smart enough to not scare off unicorns completely >random anon knows better about the companyogey
>>114753129What you mean GG Fuwa and Mori did an EN stream earlier today at 5 AM, didn't you watch it?
>>114751758hologra will have to feature EN and ID members now
>>114753347Gura would beat Pekora, easily, for the EN audience. That's something you shouldn't forget, no matter how much corpo cock you get yourself drunk on.
The reason you'll never get the trumpet that you want is that no VTuber fan and in fact many VTubers themselves don't want Hololive to die because the alternative is this
>>114751678
>>114753365i dont watch streams with gigi in it
>>114753298You're so right, the talent should be grateful to the company. In fact they should send the play buttons to the office so Yagoo can hang them in his office.
>>114753221damn, and cover already cut everyone's salary 2 years ago (hence why Chloe Fauna and Aqua left)
>>114753389lel
is this the new angle? LOL
>>114753374So true cuckbud. I'm sure the ENcull would make her reach a good 50 000 viewers median every month.
>>114753381Maybe it's time it did die cause the way it's going it's not gonna get better
He is trying his best
>>1147529812751 is based and 1369 is absolutely correct
now that the en mountain is no more Indies will finally rise to their rightful place
>>114752197no more EN so no EN concerts, US concert will be organized for popular JP clique members and Fubuki sex party dungeon regulars, old EN members will be invited as guests.
>>114752888Imagine defending the honor of a company you don't even work for
>>114753456I'm honestly okay with this after the stunt mori pulled at the last concert
>>114751940>like 60+ holos are ok with this changeThere are literally only 62 holos to begin with, ID doesn't like it, functionally all of the main branchdoesn't give a shit one way or the other cause nothing changed for them, dev_is are only fond of it because their entire existence was idiotic, they should've been gen7 & gen8 from the get go, and EN's optimism is so lukewarm that calling it positivity is coping, some of them are positive but it's hardly the overall response
>>114751567that excuse doesn't work either since he could just make a clip like any other retard that post members shit here
retarded bootlickers can't stop sucking cover's cockdoes your oshi really not matter to you lol
>>114753388I get it. I dont watch streams with biboo in it
>>114751596The trick is to treat them just well enough so they don't leave.
>>114753381The problem with EN is not that it's dying but that it was never properly built. There were only four gens, they wasted critical time debuting gen after gen of homos instead, and a gen's worth of them have already graduated. Now we may never get a proper EN because they are "pivoting to a global brand" (no one can explain what this means) and things will just slowly go downhill until the magic is completely and utterly gone.
>>114753434>You will not stay flaccid during Flare ASMR
>>114753161it might be some mental issues but it's not like she's some ultra lonely hikikomori, most likely not so lazyness is part of it. In her last year as Gura she talked about burnout rather than some crazy sickness, also mentioned going out and sunburns.
>>114753554
>>114753523you lost phasefag :)
>>114753555based
>>114753411It's the standard phasecuck raid to deflect from their phase whores cucking them again kek
looking forward to no USA concert announcement next year
>>114753571KEK this is literally him
>>114753615It will happen, it'll just have like 50% less EN's than always lol
>>114753420What JP is going to get 50k viewers with an EN audience? Why do you think they opened the branch in the first place and auditioned EN talent?
>>114753574Unlike you, I don't think about random groups of whores when talking about hololive, but you can watch whoever you'd like
>>114751726>"I doubt it's a raid".>20 replies out of nowhere>no proof to be found
>>114753615How about the Holodori worldwide tour?
>>114753403proof?
>>114753657That’s actually a good point.
>>114753523>Only the worthless branches are whining about the merging Thank you for the concession.
>>114753657>worldwideTokyo, New York
>>114753676where is new york at?
this nigga still protected after people started pushing his shit in
>>114753653Talking about the branches losing *all* their effective budget due to the restructure is kind of newsworthy though. It's impactful and clear rather than blathering on with corpo wank words about optimization and efficiency.
>>114753615they'll get a screening of a JP concert in a movie theater
now that the merger happened can justice get its casual outfits now?
>>114753555BASEEEEEED
Need streams to watch? Want kino interactions and hilarious banter? And most importantly for you do you want BIG numbers? Then I got the perfect Chubba for you!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt_utGbae4I
I understand why some people are upset but the merger literally doesn't affect me because for a long while I didn't watch anyone from holoEN (or hololive) at all or any other vtubers and then it changed to where now I only watch biboo instead and that's when she's playing something fun to watch, so it makes no difference to me. I stopped giving a fuck about EN after the graduations happened and they never recovered, they still haven't. A lot of them just didn't stream either which didn't help their case, they STILL don't stream. I like how kiara is having a mental breakdown but she's most famously known as a maldives enjoyer because she just fucked off to go on vacations a lot for a while. Also she's just not that interesting of a person, it's the main reason she isn't more popular, it's not that deep. Most of holoEN are just kinda boring. Hell, the main reason I even watch biboo or at least the reason I started is because she's a petite thai slut that I'd like to fuck, she makes me so fucking horny for her. Otherwise I wouldn't even be here.
>>114753569You don't necessarily have to be isolated for burnout. You just lose all motivation you had to do something. You try to push through and motivate yourself and it just gets worse and you end up miserable and wondering why you put yourself in this position where you now have all these inescapable obligations and none of it's making you happy. I'm sure it has something to do with modern work being so abstract and weird, probably why office workers need to be medicated so often too. She could just be a lazy whore too though.It doesn't happen as much to the Japanese I would guess because they don't expect fulfillment from their jobs in the same way, it isn't connected to the personal identity in the same way (they really don't even have personal identity in the Western sense).
https://files.catbox.moe/ggb7z4.mp4
>>114753723>50k ccv>chat slower than advent karaoke ?
>>114753768cope
>>114751940if there is no pushback to dumb retardation like this Cover is more likely to screw them over completely, only FWMC seem actually positive about it and even that might be more nuanced. Also Mori was sending mixed signals this year and you can't really trust other members to care enough about getting fucked over since EN is so passive in general.
>>114753697yeah that's why he posted proof of it right?
>>114751031I'd say instead of ID specific management projects there'll be hololive specific ones where everybody will be invited
>>114753799>only FWMC seem actually positive about it Unironically nerissa is way more positive about it than them lol
>>114753723Buy an ad, niggerchama.
Remember when Niji sent in tinboy to safe their NA concert?Holo is gonna repeat that with an empty Suisei concert kek
>>114753768his chat is twice as fast as Advent's show, both the one YT and Twitch. And mind you karaoke chats mover 120% faster than normal because people just spam dancing emojis over and over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4uYk0GQIc0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4uYk0GQIc0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4uYk0GQIc0nimi live
>>114751498Which is why mori is kind of a cunt for wanting this imo. Other girls will get the one full holo concert a year, meanwhile she gets multiple paid for her.
>>114753845He doesnt need one
>>114753859finally something to watch
>>114753799Fuwamoco went to Yagoo's tear parties last year (so did Kanata) and they said they were good talks and were hopeful. Months later Kanata graduate and EN had to be merged with JP
>>114753869>>114753845
>>114753859let's gooooo finally something good
>>114753544The burden of proof isn't on me. If he brings up something without evidence I can dismiss things without evidence. It's a simple logic rule
>>114753852/#/s doesn't like to talk about this despite the stats being out there kek
>>114753888seethe about it lmao
>>114753909tallyfaggot is too afraid to put him in the tally even tho he's 100% qualifying for it btw
>>114753859She's extra cute today
>>114753565Half of them didn't mind nijification. Too bad they didn't know that nijification wasn't free
NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE
>>114753567There's no way Flare could have the skills to make me hard with her ASMR
>>114753956gee, I wonder whyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zqFP743-jo
>>114753987this is so dirty in hindsight kek
How many of you still watch vchuubas?
>>114753703Advent and Myth need more outfits anon, sorry
>>114754006One might call it foreshadowing
Bro we Indie/small corpo chads have so many options during NA hours it's unreal! We eating good over here, mean while over at NoLiveEN...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt_utGbae4Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4uYk0GQIc0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAPeVgKkMowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5sAdtmxmPEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hbfng-krrchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM6LIFRb2v0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvlA7vUfWBo
>>114753987
How are you taking Kiara's stealth suspension?
>>114753852Proof?
Your oshi is a whore undeserving of love.
>>114754026based choices
>>114754057My oshi is this thread :)
>>114754026the no tally crew kek
>>114754057my oshi /vt/ is a menhera but i like her
>>114749266He was terminated though it’s like VShojo picking up Rushia
>>114753812Why wouldn't you just think it makes sense? Centralizing the company for greater control and to simplify the organization is effectively what they've done, obviously they'd absorb and control the budgets as well.
>>114753859>Nimi roguelike permadeath>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKino
Would you?
>>114753895Fine, now please fuck off:https://gofile.io/d/lN9693HI
i cant pretend to still be mad at nimi, im going to watch her fuck it
>>114754214If she still has a vagina, then yes.
>>114754214don't let Noel know about this outfit, Risu looks like a shota
>>114754216Grim
>>114754169In fact, it would be almost mind-blowing if they obliterated EN to the extent members are forbidden from even mentioning "HoloEN", but they had somehow preserved an internal budget for it. It's like a business plan The Joker would come up with.
>>114754225watch her fuck what?
>>114754233buy an ad ernoul
>>114754214cute boy
>>114754214Already did.
>>114754233I was wondering who's been shitposting this whole time.
>>114754225>How quickly the tide turns!
>>114753824that sounds lame you segregate through language because talents can't communicate aside from the most basic ideas and you alienate one audience or the other. Sounds like we will get more Japanese events directed at JP audience where a token number of EN&ID members might be invited. Even if event is proposed by EN members it would have to include Japanese to be approved and since Japanese can't speak English they would have to cater to their audience anyway.
>>114754225Once a cuckling, always a cuckling.
Why is ollie like this
>sits down in the cuck chair>"face the abyss"
>>114754378better than a homostar
>>114754347I don't think the merger is really about streaming. Hololive should have that wired tight at almost 10 years in anyway. It's more about expanding outside of vtubing into their IP projects, the branches were never set up for that.
>>1147542333rnoul is so fucking based for exposing Mori, Kronii, and Fauna
>>114754356this but bibrown and hakka
>>114754385Anon's resolve is tested...
>>114754428I think he's going to post the video of Lia talking about how she likes to go out to dinner with Flayon soon.
>>114752183That's exactly why they're gonna pour it all into them, so they DON'T leaveLiterally bribing the to not retire
>>114754434There can be no hope in this hell… no hope at all.
>>114754405>we're gonna cash in on the IP!dumb hail mary business strat
>>114754233Isn't this retard a Haachama fan? Why is there not one peep about her appearing on Reine's stream on his TL
>>114752261Chama already blew the whistle
>>114754510>Isn't this retard a Haachama fan?I don't think he's a Haaton, he mostly post about IA and drama
>>114754510he hasn't watched a single holo stream in years
>>114754543Nope
>>114754214short hair, extra tomboy, nice
>>114754405What use do ID or even EN members might have for IP projects directed at Japanese market anyway? They can't do much more than they already did anyway.
>>114754594>What use do ID or even EN members might have for IP projects directed at Japanese market anyway?Good point! Wait... uh oh
a smarter move would have been just to merge ID and EN instead of folding it into one massive blob
>>114754651I agree, but Cover doesn't like to be smart, it's just not the Japanese way of doing things. They MUST do things wrong on purpose and then ask for the fans to stop with the backlash or else they will be taken to court due to them hurting the feelings of the company. Very small, intelligent japanese fax machine company please understand.
Open AI and Anthropic are like Anycolor and Cover of AI industry, what does it make Gemini and Grok?
>>114754651What would the hypothetical branch would've been named? Holo Kaigai?
>>114754766Holovertheplace
>>114754766Hololive GLOBAL
Yeah Guys nothing going to change for the merger. Meanwhile No Streams during EN primetime with nonstop collabs during JP Hours.
>Cover announces thing very clumsily leading to backlash>Talents handle all of the damage control for them free of chargeHow come?
>ID's worried about not being able to do anything when they've already been regulated as a shit tier branch from the beginning.I mean really, ID only had its first concert not too long ago and the company's expectation for that was pitiful given the venue capacity. Plus most fans that went weren't even ID lmao, the ID market is fucking worthless. No wonder so many ID's are homobeggars, they have more in common with the fags than they do the female EN/JP branches
>>114754766HoloMAX like PepsiMAX but it's HoloMAX
>>114754818if you haven't noticed thats how all vtuber companies handle drama and its fucking retarded
>>114754766we were speculating about holoGlobal or something for years now because it sounds like a more rational idea but everyone involved speaks English anyway. Nobody expected this full merge because EN makes sense as a separate entity for all sorts of reasons and actually makes money.
Who the fuck's ever going to stop saying ID and EN anyway? Oooh guys check out the "x platform" and the "x posts" about it! A name change doesn't fucking work.It will only work for Devis cause they were JP to begin with.
Honestly, I have a hard time understanding the sisters, why don't they just ask them to go indie if they don't want to give Cover a cut?
>>114754216>niggas were so desperate they were denying this for 3 hoursLOL!
>>114754818it's not really integrating when you were the main branch and still technically are
>>114754863Hololive (formerly HoloEN/ID)
>>114754794If there's no EN streaming, surely that means you'll mog ID right? RIGHT? You're just mad about ENs lack of streams because it highlights how badly ID mogs you mains kek
>>114754842It's smart, I'm not gonna lie. Look, you wouldn't listen to a ruthless businessman, but what about a cute girl?
>>114754875because that would mean they lost the war against the unichuds
>>114754875How else are they gonna feel superior?A lot of these types of fags get a sense of pride for following a rm of an active member, like they're in some sort of secret club fighting against big bad corpo.
What would you say the grim status is right about now?
>>114754875Asking them to go indie when they said they won't makes you look like an asshole to the general fanbase.
>>114754916The people have spoken, and the other corps/branches just aren’t attracting an audience.
>>114752678Famboy faggot
>>114754928>>114754964>>114754972Honestly, I’m fine with it. The more excuses they come up with for not supporting Dubai, the more stuff Cover is going to take away from them.
We need another kiara type member.
>>114754378She's just like me...
Yagoo invited me into his office and showed me graph after graph of my numbers going down until I agreed that it was "necessary" to merge the branches
>>114754863Dumb as it was DEV_IS as an idea been still in line with their expansion strategy, new branch to reach new audience it just wasn't really clear what this audience supposed to even be that was it's main problem. Now they're doing 180 and merging everything it's like the opposite of philosophy they had for the last 6 years and they don't even explain it for shit, we need to wait for investors before we're getting any answers from the CEO, that's objectively not a great situation. I still want to know what happened with basic shit like overlap rules even that is secret, maybe Pekora leaks it if she's in the mood.
>>114755135Makes sense
Phase Connect's Kaneko Lumi will be having her first solo 3D concert today! Come watch in just 10 minutes!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkjbZ8_wB28
>>114755117just without the depression part
>>114754060>>114754817How do "Le sekrit knowledge" people still exist on this board no one gives a fuck anymore least of all the jannies
>>114755179
>>114755179I will rather watch a twitch whore
>>114755198>Shitting on Nerissa for...>>Buying an expensive bagNijinigger taken thread
>>114755198They sounds like women talking about fashion
>>114755248anon... most jailbird are woman...
>>114754519that reminds me Nerissa had a thing for expensive jewelry too, she mentioned queens something something earrings and shit, she loves this Victorian upper class Pride and Prejudice shit of course she would aim for it when she has the money.
>reactions to Kiara's announcement>Mori: nothing>Ina: retweet and talked about her in her stream>Kronii: nothing>Raora: replied>Gigi: nothing>Biboo: nothing>Reine: nothing>Ollie: nothing>Nerissa: nothing>Iofi: nothing>Laplus: replied>Bae: nothing>Fuwamoco: nothing>Shiori: nothing>Kobo: nothing
>>114755179looks like we are watching this boys
>>114755289Even the one on 4chan?
>>114755336we're watching nenechi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWtMYdBexcM
>>114755303nobody likes her
>>114755179>Lumi getting a sololive before Kiaralol
>>114755336Nah, I'm replaying pic related while I have the chance.
>>114755348They are women on the inside
>>114755303>>Laplus: replied
So this did well
>>114755303Can't really blame 'emHer choosing to have an absolute melty now makes their jobs all the more difficult, wouldn't doublt that many of them are just hoping she leaves at this point
>>114755398Can you use grems as knuckle dusters?
