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Not using the inflationfag thread
>>114889886She's begging me to become a KFPI feel like it's working
>>114889886Jesas
Big boobs belong on big boobs people. Small boobs belong on small boobs people. Keep lolis flat
I want duo maid asmr from Raora and Kronii
>>114889960Ame hated being sidekick to Gooba. Ceci doesn'tAlso, CCGG are both runts
Some OPs really want to get banned huh?
>>114889872>Muh CCV>Still doesn't address the head to head CCV difference AND being chosen less>>114889933Different audiences, game tastes(let see her try a JRPG and see what her CCV is like) and timeslots. With no one to overlap, Euroshit numberfag loves their le buffed CCV but will NEVER EVER buy merch. Reminder that the most recent merch release CC is 2/3rds of Gigi's inventory.
https://youtu.be/b43e8PIcoXA
I want a nice paizuri from Reine
>>114889452CC's outfit will always fall short because she's forced to keep the body rigged by holo's pickBean is completely out of her league https://files.catbox.moe/tavyqy.mp4
Not a single Hololive girl in Fortnite btw.
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like ithttps://files.catbox.moe/zjoz4l.mp3
>>114889886
>>114890033It will still mog the rest of Justice
>>114889997> CCGG are both runtsproof?
>>114890038you forgot to edit out the cover trademark like last time
>>114889886https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITOyNVjanS4watching this made me realise that we're about to see a pretty huge event. We're about to see a FLOW GLOW overtake an (active) Regloss for the very first time. This is a pretty big deal considering the big head start that regloss got. It's probably going to be Vivi overtaking Ririka, the way the numbers are. This is a bit like when Tokino Sora finally got overtaken for the Holo lead in November 2019.
>Justice new outfits announced>Already forgottenWhy is Gigi Murin so irrelevant?
>>114890063Why are there so many Amefags in Towa
>makes you mad
>>114890055The what?
>>114890069idk shes unlikable i guess?
>>114889363What'll make birgit snap is the Heavy Rain collab being the first game stream they use the outfits on, together. I can hear the intro now>CC: I'm Cecilia Immercasual>GG: And I'm Cecilia Immergreen>CC: Noooo... who are you>GG:AND TOGETHER LET'S>CCGG: (SPIN TO WIN)SPIN TO WIN>*propeller and key spinning*
Why is literally nobody hyped for the new debuts
>>114890063>not a single nerissawhy do towerfags hate her
>>114890095what new debuts
One more week without work, its been good so far
>>114890095Too little too late, also the JP audience realized the First Army absorbs all CCV and adding new members does nothing to expand the audience which is why they all flop.
>Kiara being a massive bitch>thread seethe>Kiara has a meltdown>thread rejoice>"TWO MORE WEEKS UNTIL GRADUATION SURELY THIS TIME">Kiara returns like nothing happened>Kiara streams>thread watch her because no one else fucking streams>thread liveposting her>Kiara is forgiven>repeatsits all so tiresome
>>114890015didnt cc streamed e33? and her ccv was highgigi also doesnt have any overlap for the first couple of hours
>>114890095I don't speak Japanese
>>114890095Their special marketing strategy is to tell people nothing and keep vague-posting until everyone gets bored.
I still don't know if it was a flop or not.
>>114890126E33 always have spikes in CCV for the initial streams just because people want to check the streamers reaction for the Gommage and also Act 1 ending (and maaayve Act 3). The ones after that were middling at best
>>114890095They are Japanese again aka content for non-NA only.
>>114890095>Drop a teaser in a tweet in Japanese >gen name is absolutely ass
>>114890162Honestly this is more convincing than anything that she'd be just fine if she went indie with Nimi and Mintthe paypigs will follow and her viewership was already low so who cares
why does this hag want to jerk off so badly?
I've been buying CC merch along with Gigi's just so they get their metrics for a duo live. I don't know what I'll do with double the merch when it finally all arrives I'll actually need those weeb display shelves
>>114890095Japanese debutNot gonna tune in cause I won't understand jack shit
>>114890095When even are they debuting? Does anyone know?
>>114890095the name is weird
>>114890178still higher than gigi's 2k streams
>>114890116That’s the worse kept secret about this thread we love Kiara
>>114890190Don't listen to this guy Kiara, you're better in Hololive
>>1148901984 Japanese speaking girls
>>114890198If they tweeted it it’s in Japanese so no EOP knows when.
>>114890162#4 all time
>we hate japanese vtubers now
>>114890190On the contrary, this proves to her that she makes enough money in Hololive to tolerate staying
>>114890210Still no direct apples to apples comparison. Either Gigi needs to try E33 or CC is on her 7th stream for a niche JRPG. And well all know the latter will never happen. Hence I go for the direct head to head ones like Towa's New Year event stream and CC got beaten handily there despite it being a horrible timeslot for Gigi
WHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIES
>>114890222does this make more than her Nimi concert share?
>>114890231nigga i dont even know what flowglow girls sound like (apart from su)im not gonna pretend to be excited about yet another jp gen
>>114890256>He is missing out on Vivi's fartsngmi
>>114890222>top 4 has 2 current year streamsKiara's fan base is healthy and improving
>>114890152I don't speak chinese
>>114890231Why do we have to be complacent when cover is literally OPENLY sidelining EN and only debuting new Jap nobodies?
>>114890241and we are going to watch indies!
>>114890162The stream didn't last 6 hours and she didn't even sleep, this was a scam.
>>114890195live concerts are based on album sales not random merch, and it looks like that doesn't even matter anymore
>>114890282>>114890256this has got to be a nijicuck psyop
>>114890095>Why is literally nobody hyped for the new debutsThe merge means no EN concerts, no EN gens, and more of a focus on JP talents. After they shut down the EN and ID branches why exactly should EN/ID fans be excited for the debut of another JP gen?
LEFT OR RIGHT???
>>114890222are the polaroids physical hand signed?
>>114890307you mean another hololive gen? none of those things you said exist
>>114890290Only the good ones
why do the EN shorts want me to look at Mori's downblouse boobs so much
>>114890086this happened in the futurethis anon is in the future
I, for one, am excited for the new JP girls because I love hololive.
>>114890198until the frames are up it might as well be unknown
>>114890240towas nye was a bad timeslot for every EN
>>114890385NA talents got the worst though. Yuros actually got a decent timeslot for once
>>114890095we don't really have any info yet to get interested by
>>114890359there will be an indian migrant, a transgender, a white woke and an egocentric whore
>>114890198It's likely this weekend if they just revealed the silhouettes
>>114890403But enough about nijisanji.
*SEPTEMBER 16TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*>9,595: Raora (Hololive Justice)>7,023: Kiara (Hololive Myth)>6,643: Ina'nis (Hololive Myth)HOLOLIVE-ONLY TALLY COUNTER: 8Thank God we have a podium. Gold for Raora Panthera's justice jams plus casual outfits announcement, Silver for Takanashi Kiara's "sleepiversary" anniversary stream, Bronze for Ninomae Ina'nis' playthrough of Bombanana alongside Flare and Fubuki.>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)Calliope = 20pBijou = 15pIna'nis = 11pFUWAMOCO = 9pKronii = 7pGigi = 6pBaelz = 5pRaora = 4pNimi = 3pKiara, IRyS = 2pClio, Kaelix = 1p
man they're doing practice kikaku quiz show variety streams. Seems really sad that we'll never get to see these.Or maybe they have them in the vault and they'll pull them out in a few years during some round number anniversary to embarrass them
>>114890434SEP 2026 EN GOLD9/1 - Baelz - Spaghet: 9,7559/2 - Bijou - Mortal Shell 2: 8,0639/3 - Kronii - Pragmata: 7,4139/4 - Ina'nis - Big Walk: 6,0569/5 - Gigi - Spaghet: 12,5649/6 - Calliope - Karaoke plus Announcements: 18,7149/7 - Calliope - HoloNext Watchalong: 11,6999/8 - Bijou - Onimusha Way of the Sword: 9,0829/9 - FUWAMOCO - Spaghet: 9,7489/10 - FUWAMOCO - Self Booth Karaoke: 13,7519/11 - Ina'nis - Drawing Collab: 11,9879/12 - Bijou - Outfit Reveal: 18,3009/13 - FUWAMOCO - Hiatus Announcement: 26,2819/14 - Ina'nis - Outfit Reveal: 20,1879/15 - Calliope - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time: 8,4029/16 - Raora - Justice Jams: 9,595PER COMPANY16x: Hololive EnglishHOLOLIVE ENGLISH IS CURRENTLY WINNING 23 GOLDS IN A ROW.PERFECT 15-0.HOLOLIVE ENGLISH WINS THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.PER UNIT6x: Hololive Advent6x: Hololive Myth2x: Hololive Promise2x: Hololive JusticePER STREAMER3x: [FUWAMOCO, Bijou], Ina'nis, Calliope1x: Kronii, Baelz, Gigi, RaoraFOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE MARCH 2023, SIX DIFFERENT PEOPLE WON THE FIRST SIX GOLDS, THIS TIME, HOWEVER, ALL GOLDS BELONG TO HOLOLIVE ENGLISH.
>>114890434jesus christ is this really what ENs have to live with? only 3 streams in a whole day? you guys have basically been abandoned huh
>>114890434
>>114890451SEP 2026 EN SILVER9/1 - IRyS - Hololive Dreams: 6,6199/2 - Calliope - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time: 6,0499/3 - Bijou - Mortal Shell 2: 6,0779/4 - Kronii - Big Walk: 6,0569/5 - Calliope - Castlevania Symphony of the Night: 9,0709/6 - Baelz - Yakuza 7: 8,8189/7 - Bijou - Onimusha The Way of the Sword: 9,1919/8 - Calliope - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time: 7,5869/9 - Cecilia - Setup: 6,3829/10 - Ina'nis - Zatsu: 7,6859/11 - Cecilia - Unarchived Karaoke: 10,1689/12 - Calliope - Learning English: 17,7529/13 - Calliope - Anniversary Stream: 17,9289/14 - Gigi - Trails in the Sky: 8,2379/15 - Only one talent qualified for the tally this day9/16 - Kiara - Sleepiversary: 7,023PER COMPANY15x: Hololive English1x: N/APER UNIT7x: Hololive Myth3x: Hololive Promise3x: Hololive Justice2x: Hololive AdventPER STREAMER5x: Calliope2x: Bijou, Cecilia1x: [Kronii, IRyS, Baelz], Kiara, Ina'nis, Gigi
>no EN streams today besides kiara memberseveryone loves the merger btw. nothing but positive vibes in hololive eng- I mean hololive.
>>114890467SEP 2026 EN BRONZE9/1 - Nimi - Big Ambitions: 5,8839/2 - Kronii - Hollow Knight Silksong: 5,7869/3 - Calliope - Elden Ring: 5,3449/4 - Only two talents qualified for the tally this day 9/5 - Bijou - Puzzle plus Announcements: 7,7369/6 - Clio - Fire Emblem Three Houses: 7,3149/7 - Nimi - Darkest Dungeon: 6,8169/8 - Nimi - Abiotic Factor: 6,2909/9 - Bijou - Onimusha Way of the Sword: 6,1579/10 - Gigi - Bombana: 5,8229/11 - Ina'nis - Black Balloon Market: 6,8089/12 - Kaelix - Unarchived Karaoke: 6,3349/13 - Raora - Undertale: 6,4239/14 - Kronii - How to Fish: 8,0559/16 - Only one talent qualified for the tally this day 9/17 - Ina'nis - Bombanana: 6,643PER COMPANY9x: Hololive English3x: Indie2x: N/A1x: Phase Connect1x: Nijisanji EnglishPER STREAMER3x: Nimi2x: Bijou, Kronii, Ina'nis1x: Gigi, Raora, Calliope, Clio, Kaelix
>>114890098>>not a single nerissa>why do towerfags hate herAll Jailbirds left Towa because Towa forces Bloodraven down your throat and doesn't allow any dissent against it or ERB. All Jailbirds have been banned or left voluntarily
>>114890095Japanese gen + drawn out pre-debut period. You would think Cover learned not to do that after Regloss’ flop of a pre-debut period.
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>>114890295They told me to buy them together for metrics so I'm doing that
>>114890495REPORT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH.Out of a possible 44 medals, Hololive English has won 40 of them, for a win rate of 91%. In case the trend continues, a 91% win rate would be the second biggest win rate in EN Tally history (the first one being September 2024 where they won every single medal but one)8 out of a possible 16 tallies have been exclusively composed of Hololive English members. 14 out of 16 have been composed of Hololive English members or Holo plus one. Only one tally has more than one non-Holo entry tally. (And it was caused by botting)The Month Winning Gold is won by a member of Hololive English Justice for the first time in 2026.>January: Bijou>February: Shiori>March: Ina'nis>April: Bijou>May: Calliope>June: Kronii>July: Bijou >August: Kronii>September: RaoraHololive English wins the month on the earliest possible day for the third time this year (meaning 16 or more consecutive Golds)There have been 60 entries in the EN Tally, divided in:>Hololive English: 49 (82%)>Indie: 6 (10%)>Nijisanji English: 3 (5%)>Phase Connect: 2 (3%)
>>114890636It's funny how when the engine gets wiped out you start seeing more and more "Holo only" days on the tally.This is exactly what happened in June.
>>114890610meanwhile grems are not very happy about gigi's outfit
Ligger fans are demons hahahahahahahah
>>114890610Where's that "otomos are intelligent and not faggots" anon?
I no longer have a penis…
>>114889999why would he are you snitching?
>>114890733grem…
>>114890636>picFuck Cover and their bullshit maintenance keeping us from 3D kino. They're literally right there next to each other again with more time than they know what to do with, let them in!
>>114890719That's a grem
>>114890684
I for one am excited to watch one singular translated clip of this new gen throughout this year and the next idk about you guys
>>114890095Cover fucked up in creating a system where management pushes everything, rather than letting streamers with a dream pull the company themselves towards the ideas that inspire them as content creators.
>>114890769yep, meme hat is a red flagthat outfit is gonna be awful isnt it
>>114890095jpees
Nousagibros, akatsuki fans are mocking our oshi...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1hZwH1c7wM
>>114890777Advent gets whatever they want because their ideas are actually smart. It really isn't Cover's fault that "streamers with a dream"'s dreams boil down to>Let's get Enna here>Let's get Luxiem here>Let's get Mint here>Let's get MOUSE here>Let's get Phase here>Guys what if I collab with Moistcritikal
>/#/s claims to hate kiara >chooses the kiara bread someones a tsundere
Autofister is everything right in this world
>>114890831we only hate gigi here
>>114890797There's a 25 person art division staffed at Cover, you're going to be seeing a lot of outfit reveals into the future.
>>114890834ccggweek should be every week
https://x.com/wagahaida_L/status/2100259107374837921Imagine if an EN posted this
>>114890845cant wait for another one in 3 more years
>>114890684damn even grems here don't trust that she didn't fuck up her look >>114888790should have let raora make it for her again or even ceci this time
>>114890851
>>114890095>Debuting in declining era of vtuberThey're late to the party
>>114890845That's nice but Gigi probably got one of her shitty rm friends to draw it for her like she does for all her other projects
>>114890095im hyped because of them is clara from phase connect shes the best singer in all of vtuber
>>114890863it especially pains to see it next to cc'si wanted gigi to have something like that, but no she chose the outfit that almost looks exactly the same as her original one with some added meme shit
>>114890820I'm sure in this world, somewhere, there's someone with some kind of interesting idea in their head. Whether it's too risky, unconventional or independent for current management is another story. I think that's the reason this gen feels so bland on the surface. There's no content hook
>>114890863Nah it's the same with other outfits, she thinks we'll never be able draw good lewds of it and just draw "whimsical" stuff. When my man Hase will draw porn of it in all the most interesting way possible
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72238009/cover-corporation-v-yamashita/Update on the court case, three new docs appeared by Fatty, but I'm honestly not sure what the fuck they're supposed to do.
>>114890851I noticed that, qrd?
>>114890856Based purple kusogaki
>>114890856JPfags support this???
>justice collab couldnt even crack 10kthis is why you guys dont deserve outfits
Huh so Suisei actually confirmed that she is in fact, no longer a Hololive memberI really wonder how much longer even that "partnership" is gonna last at this point
>>114890933sex
>>114890960gigi debuff
>>114890960ANNOUNCEMENT fatigue, i dont even watch those streams anymore
>>114890968Retard
>>114890818Explain anonchama
>>114890968???>>114890936>Read this post you useless fucking retardsConsidering it seems to be raid hours, I don't think the jeets know how to do anything other than set up bots.
>>114890936>Defendant respectfully requests that the Court grant leave under Rule 15(a)(2), deem Dkt. 19 theoperative Amended Answer without requiring duplicative refiling, and terminate or deny Dkt. 18 asmoot. Alternatively, Defendant requests leave to file the attached proposed Amended Answer withinone court day of the Court's order. Nothing in this motion withdraws or waives any defense, objection,claim, remedy, or procedural right preserved in Dkt. 19 or Dkt. 20.The poor fatass is trying to delay it again and again and again
>>114890451>PERFECT 15-0.IT'S THE 16TH HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE!?!?!?!
Kiara should have gone on a longer hiatus.
>>114890636>>114891015>Out of a possible 44 medals,44 doesn't divide by three, how the fuck this make sense?!?!?
>>114891030N/A are not counted because no one competed for those
>>114890863Why are gremkeks are scared of boobs Gigi loves big boobs though????
>>114890856>I want you to stream I won't.>I want you to release a voice message I won't.>I want you to do fan service I won't.>I don't want you to argue online Yes.Okay that is funny and Laplus is rather bold for a Japanese vtuber.
>>114891044its hard for her troon fanbase to self insert if she looks too much like a real woman
>>114891014He is trying to burn Cover's money but that is a retarded strat because it'll burn him in the end.
>>114890960I was literally driving to work. I'm watching it now
>>114891030It doesn't include twitch stats, right?
>>114890818whats this supossed to mean? Are they mocking her viewership or something?
>>114890231We prefer Japanese indie vtubers now
>>114890856The reality is that like half of JP are awful streamers but they will always be covered by that thin veil called First ArmyThis didn't happen on EN with Gura or FWMC because Chumbies and/or Ruffians, quite obviously, attacked the others instead of letting them use as meat shields for their oshi's terrible behaviour.
>>114889593holo is mad at suisei for making studio stellar
>>114890990>>114891091She only got 6K CCV at one point around the beginning which would've been unimaginable before (even at the very start of the stream)
>>114891026>>114891092why are you using tripcode
>>114891108>Antis trying to twist what Sui said even though she has clarified that she's still part of Hololive time after timeFTFY
>>114891112Are JP Holoantis as fucking retarded as the ones here?
otomobro your wife has a long hair outfithot
>>114890311Right
>>114891044>>114891070Based grem wants to keep his hebe small. I also hope Gigi didn't fuck up her outfit else I'll loose a stream of already limited hebelive art
>>114891135and your oshi has shit outfit lol
>>114890116>Kiara is forgivenLOL
>>114891147>Gigi >didn't fuck up thats impossible
>>114890990>>114891131>[Major Announcement] Riruri Tachibana is reincarnating! [Hololive / Usada Pekora]Pretty sure it's just a joke about reincarnation for chuubas
Gigi uses Invisalign
>>114890856>Imagine if an EN posted this>>114890947>JPfags support this???They don't. There is a reason Laplus is DEAD LAST in superchat revenue (they only remaining public metric for revenue) and while Koyori and Lui already got their sololives she got fuck all.Chloe graduating before Laplus was one of the biggest surprises in all of the Holo history, after blowing her first anniversary 3D live I was dead sure Laplus wouldn't last but, unlike Ao (which tracked a very similar path), for some reason, she stuck around
>>114891112>6k CCVpretty good
>>114891205who asked
>>114890960fuck you >>114888021
>>114891135Used to be better
>>114891205Her mouth must always be full of spit
>>114891044damn I didn't know grems were so based
>>114891207>There is a reason Laplus is DEAD LAST in superchat revenueBecause she almost doesn't stream?
>>114891210She had 12k the other day. Don't be such a huge lying faggot
>>114891147sex
>>114891135and it seems that gigi will be more rapeable than usual
>>114891014As far as I can see all three docs basically demand the same thing, I don't know why the fuck it needs three docs
>>114891205and glasses
>>114874902gigi admitted holoEN aint doing shit and is just fucking around
>>114891300>Because she almost doesn't stream?That's #1 in her post linked at >>114890856 and anon's question was in the direction of the post at >>114890947: "JPfags support this???"My reply is responding to exactly that: as Laplus doesn't stream, doesn't care about her audience her meager audience actually gives back to her in the same proportion, meaning>she's dead lastSee also: ERB in the EN side
>>114891350t. salty two view troon
>>114891316not really
>>114890979Raora debuff you mean
>>114890863Maybe in two years Gigi will have an outfit with skirt.
>>114891360I think she's had decent viewership when she's live. Anways, unless you're a JP-speaker who watches La+ despite her schedule, how do I know you're not just some /#/fag retard with a rrat
>>114891205>>114891336Would
I bet GG's new outfit will be worse than the original one.
>>114891479Chut up!
>>114891437>I think she's had decent viewership when she's live.Yeah but that's bot the initial discussion, is it? The two questions were >>114890856>Imagine if an EN posted thisand >>114890947>JPfags support this???The answer to both are: she gets the same approximate "reward" as ERB: being dead last in revenue in her gen, and very little support from the audience while her gen mates get a massively bigger level of support.
justkeks dont deserve outfits
>>114891316GG IS A CUTE BABY AND DOESNT DESERVE SUCH THINGS BEING SAID ABOUT HER
>>114891479from the silhouette it does seem that way ngl
Why does Autofister feel so fake?
>>114891479Do fes outfits count? They should be doing a new one for 8th fes.
>>114891518You've never been loved
>>114891518gigi is the fakest person in the entire company pretty much
the truth is that all the outfits look bad except for ERB
Will grems be robbed again?
>>114891350>holoEN aint doing shit and is just fucking aroundA la Gura style
>>114890055You're arguing with a monkey that covers his ears.
>>114891542not reallyonly gigi's look bad
>>114891479The base outfit is going to fine but Gigi is going to throw on a bunch of retarded toggles like the propeller hat.
>>114891542I don't like CC, but I don't think a long haired version of her would ever look bad.
>>114891552did you add the dick is that part of the outfit?
>>114891572nah, Raora's looks genericCC's atleast changed her hair but the rest is also mehERB looks kino
>>114891502I do find it strange that it seems like she has her own committed fans while fucking off the conventional Hololive stuff. She's a bit rebellious I guess? Aside from the stream hours, being very contrarian to the usual Hololive unicorn daycare model might impact SCs too.
>>114891542Only CC looks good. It's going to be the best outfit since ame casual
>>114891573seems like ruining things is gigi's specialty
>>114891603nope, ERB looks sickCC iust just gonna be another outfit she never uses
>>114891598not reallyonly gigi's looks objectively bad
>>114891479I bet GG asked for the pants and the retard meme hat.
>>114891626sorry justkek, it looks like another round of ERB mogging all the other whoresjust like with their last round of outfits
>>114891630seems like she wants to be as ugly as possiblei wonder why, maybe its easier for her to connect with the model this way
>>114891651yeah gigi will be mogged for sure
>>114890098Designated side oshi because she's on the lighter side of streams, and every /vt/ jailbird was a scorned seething anti of either Shiori or ERB (or even Nerissa, honestly actually that was just all of them) so they couldn't migrate and got banned instead
>>114891671CC and Raora as well, what a bunch of useless whores
>Shigure is collabing with a kids' clothing brand>The announcement is getting raided to fucking hell because of the obvious optics
>>114890548This explains so much about him it's kinda funnyI honestly don't think he's a sexpest anymore, I just think he's a fucking beta incel loser So I guess he fixed his image in a way kek
>>114891599>I do find it strange that it seems like she has her own committed fans while fucking off the conventional Hololive stuff.It's not strange, there will always be an audience for anything a Holo girl does (again, see ERB) but it will be massively smaller than what the girls doing the typical Holo stuff will get.It's like hiring someone to Google (for instance), the person can grind and rise to a VP position and get half a mil per year and lots of stocks, or he can stick with doing bare minimum for 120k per year, still good but way below what it could have been
>>114891564The secret “EN culture” that anon keeps talking about.
>>114890063is this a new one?Raora......
>>114891681Isn't she literally a child rape symbol?
>>114891681She found clothes that fit
>>114891681yeah the optics of this is horrible
>>114891681ok but genuine question, how is a known lolicon collabing with a kids' clothing brand something to be positive about?
>>114891656She wants to whimsy max for the memes. Would not be surprised it's a low effort shirt pants combo just like the original meme + toggle maxxing instead of base outfit maxxing.
>>114891708YES, YES SHE IS.AND NOW YOU UNDERSTAND THE OBVIOUS IMPLICATIONS OF UI "LOLIKAMI" SHIGURE PARTNERING WITH A CHILDREN'S CLOTHING BRAND AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF GOMI ENTERING A CHILDREN'S CLOTHES SHOP
>>114891586It's her little murin that she keep tucked so well in those tight spats
>>114891718Wouldn't a lolicon have a SPECTACULARLY GOOD taste for children clothes?
>>114891729>Would not be surprised it's a low effortme too, seems like everything that gigi does is low effort
>>114891681I like Ui, but I wish she’d stop making loli jokes after Lolikami.
>>1148916817 fucking million impressions....
Isn't LoliKami a song about sending pedos to jail?
>>114891767Even Gomi are like bro what the fuck is thisYou're the fucking Lolicon VTuber why are you partnering with children clothing brands
>>114891773anon...
>>114891806No, really?!?! The whistle and threatening with punishment, how is that not a warning to pedos?!??!
https://x.com/Vtuber_Expo/status/2100208525473444315
>>114891686She has more fans than matsuri or RBC by barely existing
Justice outfits... forgotten already....
>Kiara's personal trainer have a 9 yo furry daughterwtf is wrong with modern Austria?
Advent showed off the casual outfits together btw
>>114891823shes telling them not to go mask off or they WILL get arrested
>>114891788funnily enough, fempebble prime is actually stoked about the collab
>>114891830>She has more fans than matsuri or RBC by barely existingThat doesn't change what I said at all specially when I'm making a comparison of like for like and she's dead last for HoloX. Revenue-wise she's trailing even Chloe, dead for two years now.
>>114891852Yes, she's saying "don't be a pedo or you'll go to jail!" What a great gal!
>>114891862I mean, she does want to rape a literal five year old
>>114883667This isn't my fetish it is Shiori's.Have you never seen any of their streams or interactions Shiori humiliates and degrades him at every opportunity and clearly gets excited by it while he just awkwardly takes it all afraid to say anything to his superior.
>>114891862Based Fempebble I must take her from her Ruffian husband
>>114891767>>114891681Women like to pretend they are children and this still makes westoids made.
>>114891862classic pebblephiles
>>114891969Who do you think are going to visit the shops, women?
>>114891969Those look like japanese replies to me
>>114891922>Have you never seen any of their streamsNo.
>>114891681Wait until the westoids find out about the official Ui-chan AI voice talk companion thing they released a few days ago where Ui straight up had to kindly ask people to stop exploiting it to make her say fucked up fetish shit
>>114891922I would THINK that Shiori and Flayjeet's collabs are over after the whole shit that was Shiori calling Flayjeet a rapist but I don't know if the lack of collabs for months is caused by disinterest, the merge, Shiori getting sick or the invisible gun.
>>114892028they did collab twice for a game after that though, no other collabs since
ok hear me out New holostars gen targeting the ES market,all of them are either literally me eren yeager types of shonen goku types
>>114892107True and based. I'll make sure I email this idea to Sakana
>>114892020>https://x.com/ui_shig/status/2099320763576885731>https://x.com/ui_roid/status/2099347405992874346What the fuck, I thought the JPs hated AI too?
>>114892155Do they? It seemed like a mostly american thing at least the people who go rabid over it
>>114891767>>114891788Why is Xwitter like this with Holomen?
>>114892222SEX
>>114891788>>114891681To be fair that brand is always very sketchy with its lolicon associations, this isn't anything new.They sell a lot of clothes that lean into lolita and jirai kei visuals - frilly puffy skirts, whites, strong pinks, blacks, corsets, blouses, ribbons, etc. Basically stuff straight out of a loli landmine girl eromanga.
>>114892273>sketchy with its lolicon associations>lolita and jirai kei visuals - frilly puffy skirts, whites, strong pinks, blacks, corsets, blouses, ribbonsxitterchama...
>>114892155They are a bit behind on the discourse compared to the western world.Right now they are still at the "AI is kinda cool but we HATE genAI that creates pictures" stage. Give it another year or so and they will catch up to disliking voice models too.
>>114892338Take a look at their catalogue anon. Most of their designs are very sexualized and the example pictures bordering on junior idol gravure shots.Brands like Mezzo Piano have been getting flack for a long time but always managed to kinda fly under the radar for mass media coverage, it's really only a matter of time until that whole industry implodes upon itself.
damn you guys need to find a real hobby
i googled it and the first result is a 5 year old girl wearing thigh highs with a frilly black miniskirt that barely covers her panties
>>114892519Uoh?
>>114892155I think it's just reverse psychology.
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO >YAGOO ANTI BTFO!GET MOGGED!
>>114892654rabbitch had to leech her friends and yagoo to save her channel again
>>114892654>yagoo is a female collaberoshihenned. unmembered. unsubscribed, unfollowed
>>114892654AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE, HOLO CONFIRMED FOR BLACK COMPANY!>>114892689>yagoo is a female collaberDELET THIS! IT WAS A PROFESSIONAL COLLAB!
>>114891922She's like that to quite literally everyone she considers a friend if she knows they're comfortable with itMeanwhile flaygot is just the fucking doormat nice guy friend of a thousand women who has less of a chance of getting laid than your average 40yo fat ugly bastard
>>114892743fsp mindchair they get included in the discussion now
I went away for like 3 hours and came back to just 50 post. Wtf is going on numberniggas?
>>114891044Wtf is egg cleavage?
>>114892769Tbh they get discussed a lot on the female side it's just we are too busy sucking off homo dick here that we rarely see info about these twats
>>114892769Here is another oneBtw the fag here is like 4 days old and he was recently reprimanded for "sending replies to fan dm" by his manager
>>114892846Is that the flip?some anon said they new gen has a flip
>>114892801>it's just we are too busy sucking off homo dick here that we rarely see info about these twatsThwr would be just you because FSP gets discussed in this thread ***positively*** at a higher rate than the homos, almost rivalling how much the later gets discussed ***negatively***Part of that discussion revolves about how much the FSP, for as much they do it "correctly" (in relation to the homos), still fail to do any better than the homos in any public metric,Another common discussion is how much the third gen of FSP fucked up and are dragging down the rest of them
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Aev1DwVEccUNew cooking short, this recipe does look good
>>114892703OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO PEKOTOMOS!
https://files.catbox.moe/ggb7z4.mp4
>>114892959Not gonna lie, looks real good.
>>114892743>>114892846Basically a few girls flipped their shit over several things FSP members did recently and now they are getting counter-circlejerked by others saying they should stop complainingThe level of vagueposting is fucking infuriating but grok's magic algorithm still showed me enough to piece it together.
ppm status?
Why doesn't GG like being sexy?
>>114893002WHAT THE FUCK?!??!
>male vtuber, 1 week after debut>already sexpesting fanshttps://x.com/luvswiwa/status/2100126879554626030
>>114893026DELET!
>>114893089It's the only way to get popular if you debut under a literal who agency.
>>114892846It says east Asia so could be idk
>>114893089why is it ok when rockstars and rappers do it but not when a male vtuber does it
>>114893012I still don't know which one of them was reviewing female products on stream
>>114893137Celebrity status, male vtubers are just randoms
So uh.... there is a HoloEN stream tonight right....?
>>114893002https://files.catbox.moe/zqxvmq.mp4
>>114893185No lol, It's over dude.Kiara was right.
>>114891745No why the fuck would you think that?Do regular rapists of adult women have good taste in women’s fashion?
>>114892519I don't see it
>>114893292>Do regular rapists of adult women have good taste in women’s fashion?M-Maybe ... ? Better than, I assume, the taste of an asexual or homosexual bloke at least
>>114893187She knows her audience well
>>114892519Go home until you can grow some pubic hair, kiddo
>>114893336>literal criminals have better taste in fashion than someone like GigiTotal insanity hours on /#/
>>114893369>posting niji
>>114893417they are not wrong tho
>>114892909FSP gets discussed here for the inherent wish for them to finish their plan and absorb the Cover Homos so they fuck off forever and leave the girls alone.Any discussion regarding their supposed greatness is just thinly veiled graduationbegging. They're on par with Phase Saga or Denauth, not the Homos.
https://x.com/FeileacanCu/status/1923522809252180298https://x.com/FeileacanCu/status/1923522809252180298https://x.com/FeileacanCu/status/1923522809252180298
>>114893417did you see gigi's new outfit? yeah…
Do you guys only watch vtubers to jerk off? Why are you all such coomers?
why do you guys hate gigi
>>114893504I have no idea who this is.
>>114893530This cheeky fellow right here believes Fatgur and Millie are marriedWhich like, maybe?
>>114893512hedonism is meaning of life
>>114893519because shes awful? duh
>>114893512I don't watch them, they're just background noise to me.
>>114893519we hate all ENsharts here
>>114893530>>114893548
What did she mean by this?
>>114893572nope, just gigi
>>114892437Like an hour later, sorry.>check videos>its kids stuff>kids are shown using itAnon, I think you're too brainrotted, having kids as models of stuff isn't inherently sexual.
>>114892666>rabbitchOhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.I thought you were some retard that was using jew words, you meant Pekora.
>>114893512What is the purpose of life if not to cum? We might have fucked ourselves by making things to cum at for recreation, but I am not going to take the blame for it.
How suprised you would be if next gen has one or more mainly english speaking streamers?
>>114893425Posting art!!
>>114893530>>114893548>>114893573
>>114893706It better be Clara, Tanigo-san
>>114893706I'd say you're too bad promoting the new unit when everything is in Japanese.
>whoever was the boyfriend of my mom at the timeMamatori is a slut...
>>114893706Very, I am betting all in 0 english speaking chuubas
https://x.com/koahri1/status/2100304147496976391
Wait, the thread is dead because you guys are watching Kiara? lol
>>114893589no, we hate all ENsharts here holokek
>>114893762Yeah we all have her membership, cope with it brownie
>>114893519I don't understand why some say mean things about Gigi Murin. There are many fun and pretty vtubers in Hololive company to enjoy. Why be sad and make fun of her? Do they not want to say nice things about their favorites instead? I like Gigi Murin, but I do not like haters. Do you you agree?
>>114893762>Kiar-ACK is streaming>thread is deadmany such cases
>>114893795>There are many fun and pretty vtubers in Hololive company to enjoynot in ENor what used to be EN, KEK
>Kiara wants to buy a boat now
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1789520506901963.mp4
i want to fuck gigi
>>114893844So that's all the drama was about?
>>114893867>>114893844Imagine the eggstein partying on that offshore boat...The whole boat full of girls of various ethnicities cosplaying as Kiara...
CCGG Week is getting good numbersWonder if either Ceci or Gigi will talk about it
>>114893911Where?
>>114893929Twitter, the hashtag has both A LOT of posts and some of them are doing decenthttps://x.com/bblanckett/status/2099929316113228269
over 2 years for casual outfits is ridiculous lmao
>>114893732this been known since forever
>>114893839It is difficult not that Hololive company has made EN no more. I speak English. But before that big change I thought the vtubers in Hololive English branch were fun and very pretty. Do you know them? Gigi Murin is my favorite but I like to watch others too when she is not live streaming on YouTube.
>>114893976>Twitter.....
>>114890231this is always going to be an inevitability when you dont gatekeep threads(and hobbies in general)you allow discussion into something that appeals to a greater number of 'people' and let those 'people' discuss them, and you get this sort of attitude as the former main topics are now off-topic to the main theme of EN - is just one thing.further to this rant, when appealing to the masses, the inertia is that THEIR time is more precious than actually posting to add to the conversation- so the leaning to low quality posts is much higher theyre more inclined in:>repeating and regurgitating because they dont really have opinions>just posting screenshots of tweets, or bait to have other people present opinions or 'drive' discussion>posting pictures or inane ritual babble because they want to fit in without risking a discussionthe autists that tried making seperate jp numbers and en numbers threads had it right, and when they failed it was always going to lead to having just another neutered anti-opinion thread in veeteehave a phasefag start sniping OPs and spamming boyfriendconnect images and tweets, better than the steady incline of stealth black fetish posts that has been going on because the gates are fucking open.
>>114894030Well where the fuck else are we going to trace the popularity of a fan activity? YouTube Community?
Bali prices > Moldives prices
>>114893850>kenetticut>newbraska>chicagoThey're adorable. I hope their collab is soon
>Kiara traveling aloneIs she going to be alright?
>>114894033>the autists that tried making seperate jp numbers and en numbers threads had it right, and when they failed it was always going to lead to having just another neutered anti-opinion thread in veeteeThat JP Numbers shit literally only came to be because this thread (and the entire Internet) shat on Niji for the Shock. It was an attempt to separate NijiJP from EN and to try and gather some positive light to NijiJP and it was treated as such
>>114894073I wonder if she could meet with some ID members regardless there's still some time
Is the gremcuck janny still here
>>114893911>Wonder if either Ceci or Gigi will talk about itthey will break and retweet all the gay shit then say nothing about it
>>114894156But...but all of the fanfics and fanarts are gay shit...
So you're telling me that grems are so obnoxious that they made up a Twitter event just to push their fanfiction?
>>114894041Not twitter that's for sure kek
>>114894090JP numbers was created by a mad ligger because /numbers/ didn't like twitch numbers
>>114894041interesting that. plebbit and 4kangz is pretty much the only potential places where you'd be able to create long discussions for fanbases. but both are moderated to shit.idk if its billibilli or niconico irl but on webnovels i read, theres usually like big sites where lots of fans actually have a space - theoretically you can force this by giving fan privileges if theyre part of this group.in my head id think a vtuber herself creating a fucking myspace or facebook page might balance filtering out the right amount of tards while being accessible is something.>>114894090overly reductionist revisionism/storytelling, regardless segregation was the right path in hindsight.
>>114893463>They're on par with Phase Saga or Denauth, not the Homos.I genuinely don't know if this is this means they suck harder than the homos or vice versa.From what I can see from their numbers, they are in some mid zone, sucking harder than the top homos, sucking less than Goldbullet and Octavio
>>114894041Certainly not here
>Subaru's 8th anniversary>Fucking Shion messages her before Choco or AyameWhat a joke lmao
>>114894215>overly reductionist revisionism/storytelling, regardless segregation was the right path in hindsight.There is nothing preventing you or anyone else from trying again. Clearly there is no market for it
>>114894204understandable at the time cuz even today twitch is botted to shit. maybe we should start doing it now though? more things to actually discuss than tweetpostsclearly, twitch streamers do actually have enough influence when shit like the fortnite for the mouse vtuber is a thing.the games awards shit is insidious shit because of cliques and the sort of shit they do, but its still a point for influence too
>>114894215>idk if its (...) niconicoAnon, NicoNico is a relic from an era "rage comics" where peak 4chan humor and "Charlie bit my finger" was the most watched YouTube video.
>>114893976I am glad Gigi Murin has many artists to draw her pretty. The collaboration group, Autofister (Gigi Murin with Cecilia Immergreen) is certainly a favorite among many fans. I'm glad the fun they have together inspires so much art. I saw the picture I attached and it made me remember the concert Serendipity. They sang together and it was heartwarming. The artist for the art is in this link by the way: https://x.com/MarbsMimei/status/2099859484403446249
Fuck off autotroon cuck faggots
>>114894289You say that but YouTube is equally botted.
>>114894289>maybe we should start doing it now though?As mentioned at >>114894273 you can always do it. There is no market for it, people didn't follow because, outside of /lig/, nobody gives a fuck about twitch vtubers in this place.Again again, this is a free site and you can create any thread you want in the catalog no matter how shitty it is (just open the catalog and let it pay witness to this fact) but, like all attempts to replace this thread or to "improve" it, it will die because this is the only place autists ended up taking upon themselves to move things forward regardless the lack of pretty much any redeeming feature of doing so.
>114894142>114894199nigga you have a split
Kronii still doesn't play Holodori.
>>114894352Nobody does, its a garbage game that holocucks already forgot about
>>114894352Haven't you seen enough?
>>114894319not even close, youtube has the most aggressive anti bot system for videos and views get culled all the timemeanwhile twitch has around 50k channels showing signs of botting per quarter
>>114894182autofister shippers are the most obnoxious shippers in this time
>>114894273it only takes a dedicated autist to post a dead thread for long enough but yes youre right. >>114894296any thoughts on the subject yourself? about how to create a space that isnt moderated to shit and allows actual discussion when shit goes down, but also isnt a dramafest?
>>114894289Twitch numbers don't get revised because most of them both suck major balls and are unproductive.They don't lead to anywhere, VOD views get deleted afterwards, there is no like rate, they can be skewered in múltiple hilarious ways. They're junk food of numbers. There is this green girl that used to be a 3view and is now a mid 4view...because, because. And it's ultimately an irrelevant study, no conclusions can be brought from it. By the time someone tries to study the girl's newfound popularity, she'll go back to being a 3view again.
Merger looks promising
>>114894289>weNigga, you can do anything here. There's no Numbers Certification Center to stop you. In fact that mad ligger tried to make a combined tally and abandoned it very quickly
>>114894395The best examples of the futility of Twitch Numbers is Vedal.All throughout January he had these big fuck off numbers that were ultra inflated and skewered, and you could write entire articles about it and you could write stories of success...then it all came crashing down in February. There is an unwritten rule about Tallies, there is no reason to add someone who will just get there a couple times.
>>114890276isn't it the yen depreciation making it easier to top the ranks
>>114894388>it only takes a dedicated autist to post a dead thread for long enoughTrue but what makes this thread different is that said "dedicate autist"(s) are doing it for way longer than the other attempts proving that it's easier said than done>about how to create a space that isnt moderated to shit and allows actual discussion when shit goes down, but also isnt a dramafest?My take on that is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink" meaning what you see here right now is the best you can get because of the quality of the people participating. When the right people are here and the right people are NOT here this thread has a semblance of "goodness" but only in the "remember when /b/ was good" sense. The rest of the time all it takes is one or two retards to briefly disrupt it and to force people to step around their mess like someone walking the skid row trying not to step on poo, needles or hobos
>>114894367>Nobody doesI do
>>114894456>There is an unwritten rule about Tallies, there is no reason to add someone who will just get there a couple timesthats a thing? seems like more effort if a trend starts and you have to recurse>>114894421>>114894273losing deal when the site is run by shitters who can ban you on a whim. even the mods and jannies can be imagespammers
>>114894611Every couple weeks specially in the Engine era has a new 4view but they last one week. That's also why antibotting measures never pass, it would be umcomfortable to design new rules for a one week phenomenon
why did japs send all their money on holodori last month and seemingly wake up from a coma and realize its not worth spending this month
>>114890856>>114891502any more examples of other vtubers having this effect?always thought that repeated but purposeful dramabaiting was what was gonna take off for numbers
>>114889886Another day, another set of 0 streams scheduled in actual EU/USA prime time
aaaAAAAAAAAA
>>114894806Is this also Lupus?
>>114894806Loud even in tweets
>>114894719>any more examples of other vtubers having this effect?You mean being defiant and explicitly saying "I know what the audience is expecting of me but I won't be doing it"?I can only think of ERB and Laplus on the Holo side, but the theme is pretty much universal for the EN homos (hence, the "unhinged" type of "compliment" their audience throws their way) and also, on the NijiEN side, Ethyria (which ended up being the undoing of female vtubers in that branch).Idol Corp used to behave like that as well, their whole first week (of the EN branch) was outright mocking the concept of being "idols" and trying to lampshade it and deconstruct it with choices of streams that were, like the homos, in the "unhinged" side.People failed to realise that the reason Hololive is a whole universe ahead of the rest of the industry is the fact they "play it straight", for the successful ones they know what the audience wants and give it to them without a hint of irony>see also: Sydney Sweeney
>>114894691Because they already got the PNGs and extra PNGs of their popular oshis and every new extra PNG is simply less interesting to collect
>I didn't just private the stream I deleted it because i was scared that staff would go into the archive and check what the fuck I saidLMAO Kiara
>>114894806ANOTHER WEEK OF NO STRAEMS WOOOOO
>>114894367Shilling time is done, they know they can't get that much extra money from this grift
https://www.twitch.tv/nekoko88Mikeneko sleepstream
>>114894892It's 6 am there
>>114894719Raden?
>>114894416Told you niggers they were dropping gen merch, you called me a fucking coping homo sister
>>114894881Did she actually say anything spicy?
the next cash grab is the anime but will the anime be able to make a profit? i have my doubts.
>Kiara said merger was probably to please shareholders
>>114889886dont disrespect lesbians
>>114894952obviously, yeah
>Kiara>lesbianACKKK
>>114894952im going to choose to believe this because it fits with my narrative
>>114894932>will the anime be able to make a profit?Anon, an anime is a 12-part 23 minutes long infomercial to sell a product. In most cases the product is the titular Light Novel or Manga and it NEVER breaks even in the production cost but, for the most part, for the successful ones, it pays for itself on the increased sales of the source material.For Hololive tho, they're taking a page from the "Princess Connect Re:Dive" and it is likely to advertise the "source material": their gacha game..For Hololive it also has the secondary benefit of, like Marine's expensive MVs, to be a way to give back to a loving and high paying audience.But it won't pay for its own cost: it's not supposed to
Kiara never learns....
the complainposts will continue until post quality improvesfandeads.. whatever happened there?gfe and vulnerable paypigs should be seen with the same level scammers and grandparents>>114894892jej
>>114894952When the fuck was this? I hold a share, where was my vote on this?
>Yeah it can't be changed and it is what it is, but I will never be okay with it. I will NEVER be okay with it. I will always think it's stupid because of... pleasing shareholders. Probably.>and I'm not gonna be like "let's wait and see" because it's way too big a thing to just wait and see on>[...]yeah ID too. They will never get a concert again.>It can't all be about numbers but... it is. It's a business. Unfortunately. But some creativity and passion should remain. Some openness.>yeah yeah yeah... public trading... whateveruhhh I think these comments are worse than the ones in the deleted stream, talk about letting the cat out of the bag.
>>114894920now she did
>>114895008based KiaraDeath to ENshartsDeath to IDshartsyour branches are dead
>>114895008>id with never get a concert again i refuse to believe she said this without a timestamp that is actual yab material
>>114895008>[...]yeah ID too. They will never get a concert again.That's really tough to just say like that....
>>114895042She did literally, I think this stream will be archived
>>114895008Kiara is looking to get canceled, somebody stop her!!
so kiara is taking the ''fire me bitch'' approach instead of graduating, she doesn't give a fuck anymore huh
>>114895008>... pleasing shareholdersManagement provably told them that but it's the company doing it themself to cover losses
>>114895008It's literally things I've posted /here/ but Cover bootlickers tell me their life story of copium.EN is fucking graduated, except the contracts are being left to run their course from the oidashibeya.
>>114895042>>114895044why would "ID" get a concert, they don't exist anymore
>>114895008When did ID get concerts?
schizos were right again
>>114895103Once only.But it wasn't enough of a success.
>>114895008gonna need a source and timestamp to believe this, catalog-ready yab
>>114895042she said it fags on towa also confirming it
>>114895087So "EN" wouldn't either?
>>114895042ID doesn't exist anymore so she kind of loopholed out of yab if you think about it>>114895121Funny since this thread celebrated them instantly selling out
>>114895087maybe there will be concerts directed at ID audience instead
>>114895073I said multiple times that the runts with less to lose like Kiara and ID or more likely to be honest about the merger than the more popular members that need to stay in line to keep their position in the hierarchy.
>>114895084>is fucking graduatedWut? What's preventing them from doing the exact same thing they did before the merger, except having (let's say) Suisei and Towa in their concerts?>which already happened IIRC
>>114895128Mori already said this much
>>114895128correct>>114895133they could, but it wouldnt include all "ID" members anymore, just a bunch of popular holos (mostly JP)
>>114895008>>114895064>>114895084>retarded samefagkill yourself
>>114895008that's her fault for debuting with mythmania and still being a runtall the outstanding talents have no problems
>>114895008so does she know if ENs getting another concert or is she just speculating?because kiara doesn’t seem like a reliable source for information
>>114895168No one knows anything about it
>>114895008
>>114895151you can pretend that nothing will change because "they've always had JP and ID guests" but they will not-so-subtly minmax the appearances of high-performers and coincidentally not invite runts, the idea that all the EN's will attend a future US concert is pretty unlikely. Like Mori already predicted, they will probably dress it up was some "world tour" slop with MUH INTERNATIONALISM themes and invite a not-so-random selection from now on.
>>114895168is Mori a reliable source of info? >>114895154
Are we doing the>Kiara saidThing again?Kiara said that she is gonna marry Ollie once she is able to afford going to Maldives
>>114895168>so does she know if ENs getting another concert or is she just speculating?Anon, there is no "Hololive English" anymore. She's correct in the sense there won't be a concert that explicitly includes all of the (now defunct) Hololive English girls and that explicitly either excludes or "guests" girls from other (now defunct) branches.There aren't any branches anymore and there is no "branch funds" anymore meaning Hololive Indonesia (defunct) management can't organise a concert exclusive for the girls from the defunct "HoloID" anymore.HoloEN and HoloID and Holo DEV_IS now are in the exact same position HoloJP was before them: there is no budget for an event that only include all of them and exclude all of not them, everything is "HoloFES model" now.Now, if that's a positive or a negative it is an exercise for the reader but reality is: everything is "HoloFES model", hololive is "one hololive"
>>114895168EN no longer exists.
>>114895008She needs to shut up but boy does she feed us
>>114895008How did she know about all this?
>>114895217So like Fauna/Gura refusing to travel because they never gave a fuck? Dont see how thats such a big deal.
>>114895229Kiara is the most honest holo.
the next EN concert will be suisei marine and peko featuring mori for one song
>>114895284BASEEEED
>>114895217>but they will not-so-subtly minmax the appearances of high-performers and coincidentally not invite runts,Anon, that's dumb as fuck unless you are making a case that the "two sololive multiple guest appearances" Towa and Watame somehow are anywhere close to the top of the company while Subaru isn't. From what I can understand reality is what I said at >>114895238>there won't be any event that at the same time includes every EN girl and excludes every non EN girlOther than that it's the same as it ever was. Myth has a much bigger chance to get their "full" gen live than (let's say) JP 1 right now, for instance, if Kiara wasn't as dumb as she is.
not here to interrupt your rrats but its not like gens are defunct
>>114895284In Japan
>>114895284just one of them is enough to double what the sidebranches get combined
>>114894990>vulnerable paypigsThey actually understand what they're doing unlike grandparents though
>>114895008are shareholders actually pleased about this move? I would assume they're just as confused Cover never published EN earnings anyway or by branch but it's not like they were losing money with this limited support.
>>114895297They literally just had their first year without getting anniversary merch and this nigga thinks Cover will hand out gen lives next year.How convenient for you that by 2027 you can quietly sweep your retardation under the rug
i choose to believe kiara because she knows shes in trouble and getting sidelined and she doesn't live in japan so she has nothing to lose, the others will tow the party line because if not they lose their opportunities and if they get graduated they get deported
>>114895284And they're going to decapitate Biboo on stage and offer her blood to some Japanese god.
>>114895318so? individual gens have very little power
>>114895008>>114895248didnt she live long enough inside retarded jp circles to know this?
>>114895341Now they have no reason to ask.
>>114895318Anon's point and, if >>114895008 is factual, Kiara's point is that there won't be events that at the same time include every EN and exclude every non EN anymore.I agree that this is the effect of the merge. I disagree that it is a negative effect>>114895344>How convenient for you that by 2027 you can quietly sweep your retardation under the rugI'm not following.
KIARA TALKED TO GURA
KIARA HAS TALKED TO GAWR GURA.THIS WAS POSSIBLE BECAUSE SANA TSUKOMO (ALUM) CONNECTED KIARA WITH GURA VIA WHATSAPP.
>>114895428>>114895439Gura is dead anons. Now, didn't she talk with Saba before? I don't really follow the "Indie avengers" expanded universe but surely she talked with Saba through Doki or Mint no?
KIARA WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
>>114895428>>114895439Just Graduate already
>>114895369>getting rid of BibrownI WISH
saba alive? guess numbers lost
>>114895008Kiara wouldn't give a shit about ID if she wasn't the least popular EN. She should be thankful they worked out a way to give her a live by pushing her with Ina.
>>114895439she said Fauna, meaning Fauna is still in contact with Gura... Kiara can't get into contact with Ame though meaning Fauna is NOT in contact with her
AHAHAHAHAH THE MERGER WAS A TRAP SET BY YAGOO! THEY FUCKED EVERY EN AND ID MEMBER! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>114895463She didn't need to talk to her through anyone. She had her LINE and was actively talking to her, but then she changed her phone and lost Gura's contact like a retard and had to ask Fauna to give her the contact again.
>>114895507>THEYit was me.
So Gura is alive and still friends with Kiara, schizos lost again.
if fauna has guras number that means the bad blood is ame vs fauna what do we think about this turn of events sisters
>>114895530ame and fauna just weren’t close
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>82,879: Subaru (Hololive)>33,053: Kanae (Nijisanji)>32,090: Pekora (Hololive)>29,178: Miko (Hololive)>18,564: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>17,928: Lauren (Nijisanji)>14,205: Koyori (Hololive)>13,296: Polka (Hololive)>12,926: Koyori (Hololive)>12,657: AZKi (Hololive)>12,139: Fubuki (Hololive)>10,131: Kanae (Indie)Gold for Subaru with her 8th anniversary, with Kanae getting silver with SurgeTOWN and Pekora, bronze
All I care is if Advent and Justice can still be happy in Hololive
>>114895558MIKO SCHIZO DONT LOOK
The indie avengers could be so powerful. But for some reason they constantly nerf themselves and go off to get married.
>>114895530We literally always knew this retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arVohQWUCXYFinally a good fucking stream
>>114895530Gura wouldn't block Fauna over some drama I doubt they're talking a lot bts though
>>114895572Mococo is dying of AIDS
>>114895583Nimi gold
I just come to this thread to laugh at holokeks now
this count?>>114878768
Why would Cover choose Miko for an EN concert instead of Shiori?EN fans love Shiori and they don't love pekomiko schizos.
>>114895630same it's funny seeing the cope
>>114895634kiara is /here/
>>114895507post mori doomposting about en concert
>>114895634Is this Kiara?
>>114895659I got firefox'd
>>114895604RAID 1
>>114895651>EN fans love ShioriKEKKAROOOOOOOOOOOO
>>114895639>CC bleeding all over her bed from her elbow>GG tracking blood with each stepTHEY ARE!!
>>114895674The queen of vagueposting
>there's a fucking a chance that Gura talked to Kiara while she was melting down about the merge>Mori didn't talk to her or anythingFuck that's brutal
>>114895656>>114895665If I speak I am in big trouble
>>114895698Ruthless businesswoman Mori
does cover have the balls to debut another shark themed vtuber
Can you believe there are people here who want Kiara to graduate? lol
>>114895369>>114895482>samefag
>>114895744nobody likes bibot
>>114895744Nah, also it's a joke.
>>114895744we just want to get rid of bibrown anon
>>114895745>mintleechwhoregross
>>114895730What would it matter if she does or doesnt? She probably will if shes doing all this constant whining, dont see why you would stay if you are finding everything to be so terrible in your point of view.
>>114895745EN and ID died for this...
So Saba is alive and well but refuses to communicate with her fans? What gives?
>>114895784She wants cover to terminate her so she can do HoloSelen and completely kill EN because she thinks she helped birth HoloEN and if she leaves shes going to kill it
>>114895798Her fans are fat.
>>114895804Well they barely cared about gura graduating, really doubt they give a shit or are even aware of kiaras constant tantrums.
>>114895798She is taking care of her children
Really only two possibilities1. Saba has MS and is seeking treatment2. Saba has converted to Islam and is observing the Shahada
>>114895747>>114895750>>114895758>samefag againfucking retard
>>114895857cope
>>114895008Can any of the IDs even sing?
well for now everyone seem to act like EN branch is still around but nobody so far implied management team is shrinking or anything, as long as they're not firing people it's probably not downsizing it is very confusing though. Why would they remove EN branch that already had established brand in the West and replaced it with nothing? Is it possible that holo EN generated loses? Kinda hard to believe because it's not like they were investing into it a whole lot to begin with. I really need to know what was in yagoo's head.
>>114895878Moona....Risu.....Kobo.....Zeta.....Reine......
>>114895698it's unlikely they had a proper conversation, likely just a bunch of text messages and that's it.
>>114895488>Least popular It ain't 2023 anymore, we have shiori and ERB and raora in the company.
>>114895798that's the last 5 years of her vtuber career nothing new
>>114895698If there's one thing Mori is known for it's being a bad friend
>>114895901you can have conversations over text
What killed Hololive EN, Serendipity, Holodori's numbers in the US or Justice?
>>114895882>Why would they remove EN branch that already had established brand in the West and replaced it with nothing?Because japanese buisnessmen are genuinely the stupidest humans on the planetEverything here sounded amazing in the forty meetings they had about it I'm sure
>>114895882EN is not still around. They have some Japanese streamers who speak English most of the time and have "overseas" fans who supa in USD. And Cover has like 3 liabilities of remote-only contracted VAs on grandfathered contracts. The liabilities will be managed out in time.
>>114894952Well yeah, now they can't try and grill yagoo about ID and ENs falling performance now that they're bundledOf course, that just means they'll now single out the lowest performers and start questioning why they're getting shit they don't deserve or have earned
>DURR KIARA SAIDI really don’t care Kiara is a high school dropout
>>114895698Mori was responsible for Gura being gang raped, why would they still be friends?
>>114895925Sure you can, you fucking zoomer.
WHEN NIMI NIGHTMARE DIESWHEN NIMI NIGHTMARE DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN NIMI NIGHTMARE DIES
>>114895970I trust Kiara's word more than Mori's or Ina's.
>>114895925i doubt Gura is the type to type an essay over Line or whatever
>>114895971anon he's talking about how mori didn't talk to kiara but gura was somehow able to rise from grave and talk to her
Is this the closest Kiara flew into the sun when it comes to saying yab stuff?
>>114895008Kiara needs a good punch to the throat
>>114895132ID has been trending upwards but not enough to not look like runts whose budget should go to first army insteadKilling the homos opened the floodgates for letting shareholders ask and dictate performance reviews, instead of cover telling them "we don't care" they basically showed "if you pressure us we'll fold and try to cover shit up quietly"
>>114895008>yeah ID too. They will never get a concert again.Goddamn
>>114896035It's fucking funny that this stream is way worse than the one she deleted (explicitly so staff wouldn't dig through the archive to see what she said)
>>114895142False because Nerissa loves the merger
>>114896035She got saved by the fact that technically it is correct that ID will not get a concert because it wouldn't just be ID (and ID as a branch is dead) But then again she's just talking about stuff she doesn't know about, there could actually be a ID adjacent concert happening and she wouldn't know
>>114895008>It can't all be about numbers but... it is>NumbersTHE MOST
>>114896091I hope someone saves this one too, because I'm sure she'll delete it as well.
>>114895341It obfuscates info from them so they can't askThey can, however, pointedly ask about low performers specifically now to try and get through the barrier cover just put up with this
I trust Ina's words more than Kiara's
>>114895008I think Cover needs to fire her on the spot. You don't fuck with the company, ever. Hololive is the best thing ever and she should fucking remember and respect that.
>>114895008https://youtu.be/t2c5kLPiWe4?t=10964It's up, here's the timestamp.
>>114896143bootlicker lol
>>114895488Kiara is very much a person that believes in raising all boatsIt benefits her, but she also hates seeing people get crushed down since she's been through it
>ITT holodrones acting like Nijinigs and bootlicking management
Sayana finally beat Undyne
>>114896136I simply trust those that show they want to be there. Kiara doesnt seem like one by all her actions.
Kiara is such a real person unlike the others
>>114895008Wonder why the majority of the company ignores her including members when she throws shit like this and they have to play minesweeper.
>>114896175they really are alike
>>114896143None of what Kiara said is termination worthy, don't be retarded
>>114896163explain to me how I'm wrong without sounding mad and being brown
>>114896172yeah but this board is convinced that Kiara is an evil narcissistic bitch so they never come to that conclusion
>>114896136What sane person wouldn't
>>114896217It sounds like the brown one here is you
>>114896143So uh, how's that boot taste buddy?
>>114896218Only the trolls think that way, anyone who watches her streams knows how she really is.
>>114896162Based
>>114895716>does cover have the balls to debut another shark themed vtuberThey never debuted another necromancer and Rushia was fired. Cover generally avoids controversy they aren't going to do anything to anger the Gura fans. They depend too much on reputation to actively create antis and now they don't even have an EN branch.>>114895882>Why would they remove EN branch that already had established brand in the West and replaced it with nothing?They want to focus more on the JP talents and the merge is effectively budgets cuts for EN and ID.
Bro without advent EN hours are so dead
>>114896217how's yagoo's boot taste like, faggot?
>>114896263no Bibrown = Comfy thread
>>114896309
>>114895960I don't remember investors grilling them over EN or even ID though and Anycolor that was always known to be cutthroat is still keeping their dead EN branch to show they're trying to expand even with this pathetic numbers something doesn't feel right here. What if it's a 5D move to make niji merge niji EN though.
>>114896309this
>>114889886Well this was an appropriate op
>>114896110There could be concert targeting Indonesian audience but it doesn't sound very likely simply because they can't pay any serious money for this, you need a huge audience in a 3rd world country to make it worthwhile.
>>114896352That will be Kiara in Yagoo's office next time she goes to Japan yes
>My opinion hasn't changed by the way. People say it can't be changed and it is what it is - yeah in fact it can't be changed and it is what it is, but I still don't think it's okay, they will never make me think that it's okay, I will never think that's okay. Never. I will always think it's stupid and just.... pleasing shareholders. Because of statistics. Probably.>And I don't think it was worth the sacrifice. That will forever be my stance. And I'm not gonna be like "let's wait and see" because it's way too big of a step to take to just then wait and see.>If EN concert turns into some kind of like "Hololive Concert" with like... We always had guests but let's say it's more balanced than this, like the Japanese one. Well, that's nice too but our thing will be gone. It will not be our thing anymore. And I think the EN community was very proud and wholesome and we had something there. I thought it was really special for us.>Yeah ID too. They'll never get a concert again. It's depressing. They've worked their asses off for years. For what? >It can't all be about numbers. But... it is. To a business. Unfortunately. That's so sad. There should be some... Some creativity and passion should remain. Some openness to explore and innovate.>Yeah yeah... Public stuff. Public trading, public whatever.
>>114889975Hey, fuck you~
>>114896378>>It can't all be about numbers. But... it is/#/ was... le right?
>>114896136Ina had nothing substantial to say, nothing concrete just more hopes and vibes.
>>114896378The "if" is really saving her hereBecause she's talking about shit she doesn't know
>>114896374I hope he calls an all hands meeting on her
>>114896378She's so brave unlike Ina the coward.
>>114896378She's right, and all the AI sloppa in the world won't change that.Holo EN love. Even /here/.
>>114896407Kiara is not saying anything either, just feeding browns here.
Ina turned corporate like the rock kiara is stone cold....even had a hiatus arc....k...kino....
>>114896378>>114896408She's basically being the same amount of doomer about it we are being here, and it's very likely she doesn't know either, sure, the suits might be planning the next "EN concert" but the plans are probably not be developed though for the talents to be in the know yet
>>114896401they are
>>114896407Yeah and Kiara is speaking facts? Ina's has been the most level headed reaction to this. Even Mori was making shit up to justify being said about loosing the EN title.
>>114896202A company without whistleblowers and employees holding the company accountable will become evil without failCompanies should be underscrutiny 24/7 lest they become jew ridden pots of filth and greed
>>114896309Mindbroken kek
>>114896260>They want to focus more on the JP talents and the merge is effectively budgets cuts for EN and ID. They always wanted to expand overseas, shareholders demanded more investment because JP market is aging so I don't think that's the case.
>>114896378This feels like a "I'm hope I'm wrong but I really feel like I'm not" tone...
>>114896488I mean it's the same thing Mori said about EN concerts in the future, but said more bluntly, and that was before they even knew about the merger
The NSA cant be bad, only edward snowden is against the merger
>>114896378>probably>public whateverso she doesn't know?
once a chuuba goes into the "you parasocial fucks" route, how much time it takes them to either double down or backpedal and pretend it never happened?
>>114896477Then actually whistleblow real shit instead of this bs attention whore "I can't believe they've done this future yab, how potentially evil can they be?!"
>>114896378> ID too [...]They've worked their asses off for years.ok... she is full of shit
>>114896488The idea of "the EN concert sold so badly that the next concert in the west, if any, will be a cross branch thing" was already brewing in the mind of some of them (Mori) before they even knew the merger was a thing, so it's easy to assume the merger merge those fears feel even more realistic
>>114896408Mori said the exact same thing
>>114896477There is nothing to whistleblow besides Kiara and low performers getting sidelined for content which was already happening pre-merger. All her IF statements mean nothing besides she's in a doom spiral about her own career prospects.
>>114896475Losing the EN branding is objectively super dumb no matter how you look at it
>trust the Eliras goyim
>>114896543And that was before serendipity, they found out about the merger in July
>>114896541As if you knew.
>>114896486hes kinda right
>>114896143>Hololive is the best thing ever*was
why didn't you just buy the fucking concert tickets now i will never see a ERB sololive
>>114896542From what I remember Mori's assumption was more than just fear, they pretty much directly told her that because "muh bad Serenskippidy sales" which is why she flipped the fuck out out (rightfully so) and went on strike because that was entirely their fault.
>>114896553>eliraWho?
gura is somewhere just laughing at us,
>>114896587>when your concert only sells 9999/10000 tickets so you disband the entire branchJust Hololive things
>>114896576nice
>>114896477Can it be held under scrutiny under actual verifiable facts next time?
Why do they hate their fans so much?
>>114896610She's on the hospital bed next to Mococo's
page 11nimi is a whore
>>114896661Bibot sucks cock lmao, nobody likes her
>>114896631
Why do you guys like talking about irrelevant male 2 views so much?
>>114896309trvke
>>114896327Homos were the lowest, so they were the question of "why are you bothering"After thd, now id is the lowest performing And after them, enUntil all money flows only to high performers and first army, that's the lines the questioning will follow
>>114896378Why don't we have new Kiaraslop images? This crucifixion of the wawa is like 3 years old by now.
>>114889886Holy jesas
Holostars outlasted holoEN because its not under the hololive brand ironic.
