/vt/ BTFO
>>116033141How do Holos feel reading articles like this? Do they feel guilty for taking money out of lonely people. Do they feel compassion for their fans? Do they feel anger because the industry is being misrepresented?
Its all fun and games until they start putting AI into those dolls, then suddenly the Mumei doll is teaching Yagoo's biggest fan quantum physics while the Kiara doll is disassembling a toaster.
/vt/? this is a problem with all men today. grown ass adults playing with toys and cuddling with plushies
Proper healthy grown up adults should spend their time paying taxes and dying in a war for Israel instead.
>You HAVE to be a serious adult who is miserable and only lives for work otherwise you are L I T E R A L L Y a baby!
>>116033141Can someone please put side by side articles like these and all those "men need to get in touch with their feminine side/become more emotional" or whatever. It seems that no matter what men do, even if they're not bothering anyone with it, someone is very bothered by it and thinks its a problem.
Psychiatrists are just legalized con artists
>>116033141It is fine when women in their 20s and 30s do it though.
>>116033141That's quite the self-incriminating display of absolute insecurityif only they knew what I do with my pushies
>>116033141Playing with plushies anon? You could be dealing with your loneliness in much more socially acceptable ways like drowning yourself in alcohol with your co-workers instead!
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>>116033141>STOP HAVING FUN!!!!
>>116033636>It seems that no matter what men do, even if they're not bothering anyone with it, someone is very bothered by itThis is not new. It's always been like that, take it from someone who's born in the beginning of 80's. The fate of men is to fit into someone else's mold of what men are supposed to be.Actually being a man is about doing the things you enjoy, without regard to other people's opinions. Let them seethe, it bothers me not.
Japanese would rather a feral from Boingostan harass them on the streets of Shinjuku than a single man taking a picture of a doll for a silly photo.
>>116033141Japan is an infantilized country. Even the adults act like high school girls bullying whoever steps out of line
>>116033141I recognize that pfp. Rich coming from someone who is probably on Cover's lawsuit list because he couldn't stop hating and obsessively attacking an anime girl
>>116033141by your own logic aint /a/+/vg/ too got BTFO'd ?that just like holding pokemon/anime plushie heck the same shit can be said to those korean fangirl
Our entire generation is being continually infantilized. just look at how people like pokemon fans act. Society is doomed.
>>116033141Its literally a loser otaku hobby, when has this ever been denied.
>>116034140>Excuse me, can you get out of the way? >I'm trying to take a photo of this historic monument with my Hakos Baelz BeegSmol doll, thanks.
>and they even call the Hololive members BABIESDo they REALLY?
don't buy plushies, give your money to nigger charities instead like a GOOD person
>>116034355Myah Jimmy baby>>116034374Do not do this, it causes Somalians
>>116033256they only see dollar signs and easy marks
>>116033141>Holobrony BTFOFTFY
>>116033141Grim. This "hobby" truly is exploitative. And it's men, the viewers, who are being exploited.
>>116033141I post plushie pictures literally every day, and that's allowed me to connect with a ton of fans online, so whatever.
>>116033141>vtumours once again having no culture of their own and copying touhou, but soulless and corporate
>>116033256I often wonder this. As much as Holos try to act like they're musicians or performers who have fans who just want to see their oshi achieve her dreams, they have to know that deep down that they're just glorified eye candy. The root of their fans' support is their sexual appeal. Their model, their voice, their fans' fantasy of the talent as their girlfriend, etc. Even the most wholesome Holos who make no attempt to sexualize themselves, like Ina, still have fans who want to rail her.
>>116033141>>116033256>>116034878>>116034940
>>116033636>Retarded foids are obsessed over men minding their own business
>>116033613>>116033567offended manbabies spotted kek
>>116033141TELL IT TO MAH FACE, LITTLE PUSSY ASS BITCH
Little gay pussy making pics from safe space
>>116035986Kek when will they learn
>>116033141These people are enjoying a hobby and cheering on their oshi who motivates them. Meanwhile antis have nothing better to do than constantly look for things where they can shit on vtuber fans. One group is productive and enjoying life while the other one is being a pathetic, miserable fuck that only shits on others. I'd say the antis are more lonely, otherwise they wouldn't shit up twitter with their harbage 24/7.
>>116035137This is not applied to just vtubing, but idols in general.
>>116035137Are there people that would unironically rail Ina?
>>116033256You have to realize being parasocial is a two way street. Just like a fan can have a weird one-way perception on what their oshi is like, the oshi can have a weird one-way perception on what their fans are like. A fan might be battling with loneliness and their oshi streaming might make them feel better, the oshi might also be feeling loneliness and other nasty feelings and having her fans send her a barrage of messages telling her she's cute and shit make her feel better.I'm pretty sure most successful chuubas understand this concept (except for those going full menhera and never recover) and understand the implications. As for if they feel any guilt, I'm reminded of an autofister collab where they announced some merch but immediately prefaced it with "Buy only if you can afford it, if it's within your means, we didn't want to release this merch so soon", and recently CC herself said that line. Like if they didn't feel guilt they wouldn't have said anything.
>>116036088literal carrot bros.
>>116036088>>116036068kinda sad that you have to post other people's pictures
>>116033141envy?
>>116033490is that why women want to import violent rapists to replace their men?
>>116033636Well, it’s the same old story. Men doing something = bad; women doing something = (nothing to report). Like, vtubers have female fans too... but [the focus is always on "guys." In the same vein, you don’t see headlines like "new study finds..." regarding, let’s say, female K-pop fans, do you?. They also mention plushies... Don't women collect those kinds of things too? (...) (...) (...) Men bad!
>>116033636If there isn't a problem with you, how will anyone sell you a solution? You got to pay for this thing or these videos or lessons or products which will fix you!
I think as long as you're not bothering other people, you should enjoy yourself. I think it's a little cringe if a guy has plushies on his backpack or whatever, but it's harmless. Now if you're out an about in a fucking fursuit or something or blasting your oshi's music in public spaces, then fuck off. But otherwise enjoy yourself.
>>116036068>>116036088Imagine the tiny little guy from the Philippines making these posts
>>116036068Man, this is why the black birth rate is now lower than the white one. God help us all
>>116035137The same way every other person who makes tons of money feels. They don't give a shit because they have tons of money. Look at how many people ignore their own lives by drowning in video games, youtube videos, movies, tv. Now add anything you can buy to that, you'll be fine. "Money can't buy happiness" is bullshit, when you're not afraid of a medical bill or something breaking down, when you know you can afford not just the essentials but things you want, you'll be pretty happy. Vtubing is an inherently evil profession which takes the money and feelings of lonely men and takes advantage of their despair and existential dread at getting older and having nobody who cares.BUT, it's not unique at all. Gambling is a similar evil. Drinking and drugs are similar evils. People have parasocial relationships with musicians, fleshtubers, celebrities, sports teams. In fact, when a sports team of a big city loses, domestic violence goes up. Vtubing is just another monetization of despair. Plenty of people know this and still participate in it, because they're just killing time till they die.
>>116035137>holos try to act like they're musiciansits funny watching people call suisei a good singer when she can't even perform at the level of c tier anime actors. her covers of anime songs are fucking pathetic.
>>116033141Remember that when you support your oshi, you upset these people.
LMAO i usually point and laugh at nerds who do shit like this in public sometimes i even take their toy/plush doll and throw it really far so they have to go get it.
>>116036068Nene's nigga
>>116038947This post was made by a 5'5 Southeast Asian "male"
>>116038771Would you wanna fuck a race traitor/back qween, anon?
>>116038825Honestly, all things in moderation is the key to enjoying most things. Diving too deep into anything will often ruin your life. But enjoying many things casually will broaden your perspective.
>>116034940I think this is more referring to the imas plushiesalthough at the price the mochi plushies are they feel more like showing your rolex off on camera
>>116033141Yeah, and? I'm out here living my best life supporting my oshi, and you're sitting behind a screen miserable and taking it out on others. I'd rather be in my position than yours
>>116034374>but how do I make this about black peoplemindbroken
>>116033141I don't think anyone here or anywhere is arguing that vtuber fans have a higher rate of loneliness on average than the average person.
>>116033256>Giving joy, happiness, hope, inspiration and dream to people crushed by lonelinessI think they either don't care or are happy. The same as idols have always been. After all, it's not their faults that people can be lonely - it's society's, why should they feel guilty for helping to alleviate that?
>roastie seething general
>>116033141What a miserable life he must lead
>>116040366Chudcel
>>116035137>everything is le sexit's love. it's more emotional than sexual. of course women wouldn't understand this as they're incapable of feeling love and only think about sex.
>>116035137Hololive both infantilizes and sexualizes the talents to maximize their merch sales. Many of the talents likely did hate the sleazy GFE side of Hololive since talents were starting to quit in 2024 and 2025. Cover no longer forces mandatory swimsuit concerts so I think there have been some changes to give talents more creative control over their character.>>116038825>Vtubing is an inherently evil profession which takes the money and feelings of lonely men and takes advantage of their despairCynical but that really depends on the individual vtuber and the only talent that fully embraced the GFE role was Rushia. The EN branch has been fairly honest about it being a form of entertainment (no different than anime or video games).
>>116044360People aren't buying useless plastic stands with default images printed on them because they're entertained.
>>116033141I like how all experts can do is point out the symptoms and the sickness but never the underlying mechanism and thus a cure/therapy.Imagine going to a doctor and them saying "damn you are sick"."Oh how did that happen? What do I do?""Lol, idk. That will be 50 bucks"
>>116044622It's super easy to criticize and point out problems, it's not easy to find solutions. Half of stand up comedy these days are just hacks going HEY ISNT THIS PART OF SOCIETY FUCKED UP
>>116034374Replacement jeets eating good at those food banks.
>>116044622>>116045143Closest thing to a solution would probably be more face to face interactions and community building but that's not compatible with where society is currently heading. And I get the feeling that these experts know that.
>>116044360Long time no see, outfitschizo
>>116033256They feel nothing and come back to fuck their boyfriend after the stream to ease the stress
>>116044360>Many of the talents likely did hate the sleazy GFE side of Hololive since talents were starting to quit in 2024 and 2025.None of the JP ones quit because of that. It's up to themselves how they want to present themselves and which projects they take on. And nothing of that is forced GFE. Chloe f.e. was the gachikoi queen and she quit because of too much workload.
>>116044622I mean isn't that just therapy?
>>116038947I don't know but if I were them in this situation I'd give you a good punch in the face. And you'd deserve it too for being a cunt.
>>116045893No. But it's often what "therapists" do which is absolutely nothing. Therapy is symptom relief. Cure is getting rid of the cause of the issue.
>>116035137You're literally describing the fans of musicians and performers you dumb fuck. Literally every single celebrity could be described this way. The question is what percentage of their fans are one thing vs. another and that differs by individual, not by profession.
>>116033141>OH NO NOT THE PLUSHIES AAAHHHHH!!are the anti aunties really that retarded to write up shit like this?
>>116033141Them being able to connect together like that, find friendship and find courage with one another to be in public and be themselves with one another in comfort is a beautiful thing and the fact that they have the cause or the why on display or as carry tokens (hololive merch) is wonderful, may such gatherings increase with honest goodwill and welcoming fans, I remember the cool meet ups that those brony people have way back, and I had a friend who enjoyed going to the restaurant meet ups, was a positive for him overall
>>116033256women are incapable of feeling compassion, they look at their fans and simply laugh at how pathetic they are
>>116038947And everybody clapped
>>116033872Wait a minute that's Kanji's whole shtick
>>116033141based
They dont call them HoloBRONIES for nothing
>>116046481Except there are actual musicians and performers who are actually talented. There's a reason why girls are singing in Hololive and not with an actual music label: they are significantly less talented and carried by their anime girl aesthetic. Girls in choir in my high school growing up were more talented than most of the Hololive
