>>7993007I live right next to that library. It's an absolute piece of shit. This is just the upper part of it, most of the space in that building is empt/not being used. You have to run a marathon to get from one section to the other. It's always full because around 70% of the space isn't being used. Also soulless globohomo architecture. Hires actual retards for work (to be inclusive), absolutely unlikeable employees, not even free wifi (you have to pay for membership FOR FREE FUCKING WIFI).For those interested, it's the library of Stuttgart - Germany
>>7993756It's def Stuttgart's least beautiful famous building
>>7993787Yeah the old one was very comfy. Shame
I wish more libraries kept the classic wooden architecture. To me it invokes tradition and the passing of knowledge. It's a shame really.
>>7993816Public libraries need to be practical first and foremost. Their aim isn't to look pretty and invoke a sense of something but to hold books and it's a shame to say that old wooden furnitures isn't always the best (plenty of terrible metal ones naturally). Frankly, "artistic visions" of libraries are usually the most hard to use stupid things, case in point this Dr No architecture >>7993007 , furniture can be just as bad of a problem. The primary goal shouldn't be to design a pretty but functional space. Ironically, when architects designed plan for the new library in my city, there was no bookshelves visible on the pictures! Most of the stuff that is shared is kid's stuff and polar/romance for old people anyway. The idea of the library has a place to pass knowledge unfortunately, is far from the reality, not that it shouldn't strive to be, but the public is mostly kids, families looking for family stuff and old people.
>>7995534>Public libraries need to be practical first and foremost. Their aim isn't to look pretty and invoke a sense of something but to hold booksFucking souless Communist way of looking at the world. Beauty has a practicality of its own. People need beauty.
>>7996049People need beauty, but a library need to be functional for its public "first". Practical is beautiful too. Architects who never go or use a library have no place designing one. That's how we got an impractical elevated oven of a room which was a headache for old and wheeled people in my local library, this and tables which were perfectly at children's head height.You don't want most of nowadays architects "beauty" takes as well.What you advocate for is picture of unused libraries, not libraries.
>>7997645Libraries used to be beautiful and functional, but constructing such things is more expensive, and the Marxist-inspired schools of architecture that modern designers adhere to is designed to crush the human spirit.You can have both, it just costs more to build and maintain, but it is worth it. Collective use buildings are to represent a collective human spirit, a symbol of the people and their aspirations that inspire while being used.
>>7998036How is this supposed to crush human spirit?But yeah, hate marxism, love collective, take meds.
>>7998191yeah that one is fine. It is shit like this - >>7993007
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>>7996049Hello, based department?
>>7998982Getting to the top books must be awkward. Also I am unsure the pressure being placed there is great.
Theres a particular one I got on here years ago that was a drawn bank of windows with a loads of cats, books, and plants. Does anyone happen to have it?
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>>8001592and this is why you don't buy bookcases from Ikea.
>>8001592This reminds me of the fact that the huge library building at the college I go to is sinking a little bit every year (and unevenly, one side more than the other, which could cause a huge fracture in the coming years) because the engineers and architects forgot to calculate the strain on the building from the collective weight of all the books. They literally built a huge, multi story, multi million dollar library and forgot to ask themselves about the collective metric tons of weight that the books would add to the building when all the shelves were filled.
>>8004880A very common (and very fun) urban legend.
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>>8003398You'd need a 50 ft ladder to reach half those books. Design is definitely aesthetic but not very practical at all.
>33 MBhttps://files.catbox.moe/yx3etw.jpg
Guys, I have nothing to add, but please, don't let the thread disappear
>20 MBhttps://files.catbox.moe/znx10b.jpg
>>8020150stupid.
>>8023527Do you have something against Bradbury's novel, or are you just reacting to the words out of context?
This thread reminds me of the Simpsons episode in which Marge is reading a magazine entitled "Better Homes Than Yours".
>>7993007Wright, maybe the most respected american architect, spent most of his career pursuing function and using detail to highlight the innate beauty of functions form. Something that's been chased since the roman baths before him. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with wanting public funds to make something functional. The fact you call it a communist idea is kinda sad.
suppose there is a lot of libraries in the world with tall balconies and/or shelves so high they require a ladder. now suppose a certain percentage of books handled by someone have been dropped and fell a great distance. now suppose a certain percentage of people have fallen when close to a balcony or on a ladder. what would those percentages be? are there any recorded instances of this happening? or maybe there are works of literature that reference a falling book or person inside a tall library? what would it be like to be the book on the furthest edge of a shelf overlooking the great hall of a tall library? what would that feel like?
>>8024042Uffff i love this idea. What would it feel like to be a book on a tall library? What would it feel like to be a cat laying on the edge of a building? What would it feel like to be a bird sitting on your nest? Or a snail looking upwards to the long journey ahead of you? Perhaps an old vinyl on the shelf of a store, having so much to say, waiting for someone to listen.
>>7993816I hate that I have the brainworms to recognize that this is a Skyrim screenshot
>>7995999I recognize this one, from the House on The Rock in the US
>>8007416seems like a poor location to have books, what humidity and the seasonal flooding
For me, this is comfy.
>>8024987Venezia was a major Renaissance printing, editing and publishing place though. There's still century old libraries here.
>>8004875While true, those are not Ikea
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>>8025163That doesn't answer anon's question, it's still a horrible place to storage books
>>8024989Extremely so
I'm not entirely sure whether this one is on topic, but it seems appropriate.
>>7995534>Most of the stuff that is shared is kid's stuff and polar/romance for old people anyway. The idea of the library has a place to pass knowledge unfortunately, is far from the reality, not that it shouldn't strive to be, but the public is mostly kids, families looking for family stuff and old peopleI'm in a lot of libraries in Canada, and that isn't the case here. Neighbourhood libraries are much mor elike this, but big downtown libraries are not at all.
>>7993007Awful.
>>7996009name?
>>8032746In terms of what's in the rows or what's taken out by users? My point is overly simplistic certainly, regardless, in my city, neighbourhood libraries are about 2/3 of the loans and having worked in them, it's mostly teens, kids/families and elder people. Even the students often don't use the books (there's the uni library for that) but the space.Anyway, fiction is overwhelmingly preferred to docs, and in fiction, it was mostly bd/manga then crime fiction then "classical" literature. That whole "passing of knowledge" is lovely and certainly nothing to sneer at, but it's really not what the library is for the majority of its users. Accessible cultural entertainment is still the main reason people go to the public library, and it's already a great thing. Having parents reading and taking books for their kids is fantastic. Giving kids the desire and the means to read is important.Proper enduring, practical wood furniture is really not what is easily available nowadays as well...
>>8032753Use reverse image.It's Admont Abbey's library in Austria.
>>8029577underrated post
>>7996010Need a study like this
>>8029577holy shit lol
>>7998036anon I hate to break it to you but marxism has very little to do with the modern min-max approach to buildingsmost of our briefs these days are for the same series of box buildings with simplified hvac, reconfigurable wall and ceiling layouts because it is the cheapest design to build for our developers and the quickest to build for our contractorsmeans spend less for more rent in return ironically one of the most ambitious designs I've ever collabed on was with a trade union (the site was lost to another developer)
>>7995995Thomas Jefferson's library at Monticello?
>>8008823this is the only time i have ever wished 4chan supported emoji. i would use the puke face
>>8044083Yeah, I'm a librarian. I work in a traditionally beautiful library, which is great. But when we had a mold issue and our HVAC failed, it was a nightmare to repair, and we had to go with uglier and more modern replacements and upgrades because it's all we could afford to do. Beautiful layouts and real wood and all that other shit are incredibly expensive to build and maintain, because capitalism rewards minmax design and materials. Fund your libraries better and we can afford to look nicer! None of us want to work in boring boxes but we need to spend money on books and not opening up plaster every time there's an HVAC issue.But sure, something something Marxism.
>>8046264Disgusting
>>8009777>no one is illegal>communist flagsdisgusting
>>8045770>>8045772kill yourself or go back to your own thread goontard
>>8029577heh
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>>8061676reckon they have enough globes?
>>7993816easier to catch fire, and we all know what a fire did to the library of Alexandria
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>>8046264Looks like a great place to crush an awakening mind.
>>8008823this looks like it's from one of my porn games
>>8026230anon didn't ask a question, retard
>>8063208Yeah anon, Berkeley is notoriously good at "crushing awakening minds".
>>7995534>equating modern artistic aesthetics to older or classical ones to make a fallacious argumentArts and humanities types are the worst.
>>8044083>anon I hate to break it to you but marxism has very little to do with the modern min-max approach to buildingsGuess again. Ever heard of Bauhaus?>>8053440>Beautiful layouts and real wood and all that other shitThis is definitely somebody who wishes libraries were classier.>capitalism rewards minmax design and materials.Public libraries don't have shareholders but go off mask slip etc.
>>8067054Public libraries are paid for by tax payers and i have never seen anyone says "i want to pay more taxes so our libraries look nicer":
>>8067106if peoples tax money actually routinely went to useful and thoroughly deserving services like public libraries more often and in an actually meaningful way then people probably wouldn't mind quite so much, but instead we all know our tax money is now routinely getting pissed up the wall on providing stuff that we don't particularly like/want such as giving our political and media class access to a champagne lifestyle at our expense, while also giving unlimited free everything to illegal economic migrants who shouldn't even be in the country, as well as paying to make sure the establishment can endlessly put its legitimate political opponents through the legal system in a series of highly questionable cases in an effort to silence them and/or make them go away forever...
>>7993475i dream of living somewhere this beautiful, maybe one day i'll build a home with a library this cozy in it
>>7995534>need to be practical first and foremostNothing NEEDS to be practical first and foremost unless it's some ad-hoc military fortification.Design should lift up the soul.
>>8071123Unless it is art it needs to be functional first. That doesn't mean it cannot be pretty, but that is a consideration that must not interfere with the function.
>>8071123>Design should lift up the soul.Yeah sure that silly anti-materialistic ethereal idealistic reasoning is how we get crap libraries in the first place, with zero reasoning about the actual function of a library. If people can't find stuff, can't organise their books, can't move around, there's no soul lifting going on or whatever.I sure hope you aren't an architect.
>>7996049>CommunistCapitalist, actually.
>>7993756interesting. I live near Stuttgart too. Haven't been inside though
>>7996009damn
>>8077925Would love that place for an office (would probably need help keeping it in shape though)
>>7996049agreed
>7074x4721https://files.catbox.moe/kbpj4b.jpg
>>8019184This place felt way, way bigger irl
The screen you're looking at now has likely displayed more pages than all the books combined in any of these images.
>>7996049>Communist way of looking at the worldMost of the architecture perceived as "soulless" came from capitalist countries.Pic related is Lenin Library (now Russian State Library) in Moscow, built during communist times.
>>8084064Why did they change the name of the library?
>>8085704Maybe because Russia is no longer communist?
