>>6027298
Flat earthers went this year to Antarctica to observe the 24 hour sun. They wanted to see for themselves the sun because they didn't believe the existing videos. Austin Witsit, one of the most prominent ones and has debated the flat earth model many times, and he said would believe the globe earth model if he saw for himself the 24 hour sun in Antarctica, and now he does.

>>6027327
24 hour sun proves flat earth.

>>6027327
Thats cool and all. Space is still fake and gay. Stop wasting time pretending its not and use all that funding for earth based science, energy production, energy efficiency R&D, etc etc et fucking cetera.

>>6027327
Why would antarctica NOT have 24 hour sun?

>>6027327
The Final Experiment in Antarctica was very entertaining to watch. Especially seeing the guys the flat earthers sent down suddenly being branded as shills, and the thing with the green patch on the guy's jacket causing the green screen debate.

My favorite is that flat earthers have to resort to "we don't know what stars are" plus "the firmament is causing a lens effect between the inside and outside of the flat disk" to explain why you can't see norther hemisphere stars in the southern hemisphere and vice versa.

>>6028003
The current Flat Earth Model necessitates a "spotlight sun", which only illuminates part of the earth, otherwise it would always be daytime. Antarctica is the ice wall around the perimeter of the disk. If there were a 24 hour sun, it would mean the whole perimeter is illuminated at the same time. Which cannot be reconciled with the spotlight sun without some other crazy addition to the house of cards that is the flat earth model.

anyone got the flat earth death grips song about the moon reflecting the earth or whatever

>>6027298
why cant i see mount everest but i can see the moon (a very round moon that somehow isn't equally lit up at different times of day)

>>6028067
You're supposed to put sage in the options field, not the name field.

>>6028070
the reason you can see sage is because the earth is flat

>>6027355
Flat earthers refused to believe the 24 hour sun in Antarctica because they said the existing footage was either doctored or it did not show the complete 24 hours. They wanted to see the entire 24 hours themselves. This implied the 24 hour sun proved the globe earth model. However, when their own went to Antarctica to view and film the 24 hour sun, they moved the goal posts, and it's no longer a criteria for proving globe earth.

>>6027298
it kind of actually doesn't matter at all
however, flat earthers are based for not taking anything at face value, for going out and gathering evidence one way or another. thats what science is.
on the other hand the roundness of the earth has essentially zero impact on anything. nobody has anything to gain or lose from it being one way or the other.
if you care about this then you are a loser. unless you are a flat earther doing experiments in which case, well at least you have some integrity.

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>>6028440
>the earth has essentially zero impact on anything. nobody has anything to gain or lose from it being one way or the other.
Wrong. The ball earth model is the foundation for most narratives pushed by narratives.

Once you realize earth is not ball inside a vacuum, there is reason for all the money and legislation passed to preserve the supposed ball.

>>6028608
Yes, the moon landing is a hoax, but that's unrelated to the earth being round. The flat earthers have almost zero mathematical evidence to support their claims. They have just have a bunch of diagrams of what could be happening and nothing else. And whatever they have is far more complicated than the globe earth model. Again, the flat earthers went to Antarctica and the mathematics of the globe model predicted exactly where the Sun should be.

>>6028626
Many prominent flat earthers glow very bright

>>6028440
Taking nothing at face value isn't the same thing as just choosing to be "alternative" about everything. FErs are conspiratorial in many other ways, but always in the same ways. They do not exist in a wide, creative space of free thoughts, but instead chose "Option B" instead of "Option A", and think the B stands for "better".

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>>6028626
Earth is a concentration camp within a gas chamber and most inmate are dreaming. The globe model cheats all architecture upon the surface into a impossible shape that creates a loop causing conciousness to be lost in the maze. Real liberation from those the builders of this gas chamber is only possible by awakening to the "curved level" paradox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOZIPeJ_6uE

the whole FE vs BE in itself is a psyop to pit us against each other much like idpol, to give us a false enemy to fight against when we should be looking towards the ones that behind the curtain

>>6028440
>that's what science is
It's half of what science is. The other half is not calling someone a shill or throwing a tantrum when they call your method into question. It's the latter half they seem to have a problem with

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>debonked
nothing personal chuds

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i wonder how they will try to explain this one away

>>6027327
The circumference of anartica is 30% bigger than the equator. Also old text from the first explorers mention day and night.

>>6027327
>Flat earthers went this year to Antarctica to observe the 24 hour sun.
>They wanted to see for themselves the sun because they didn't believe the existing videos
they tried very VERY hard to not go
Flerf's came up with so many hoops that the host had to jump through just to get them to go
and the guys who did were ousted from the 'community' as shills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLHTe_ORjLc&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOYpeysawuw&t

>>6028868
>Also old text from the first explorers mention day and night.
its almost like the earth has seasons that change depending on location?
>The circumference of anartica is 30% bigger than the equator.
trust me bro!

>>6028865
T-45 Goshawks, a low-altitude trainer jet
Cloudy day, so clouds are probably at 3000-10,000 feet up, they are in between most of them.
Eclipse is directly overhead, cool!
Nice sunset-style refraction.

I don't see what this is trying to show: The bubble canopy distorts the view
the camera is not steady,
the planes are under unique lighting conditions.

>>6030147
Go there than instead of wasting your time on the internet, Fucking flat earthers lmao.

>>6027298
what did they lose exactly? What is gained from them losing this "fact?"

>>6027298
ahem
eclipses.
checkmate
concession accepted
pack your shit and get the fuck off my planet.

>>6028910
look at transexualism

mfers just be out in the world not knowing how2validate and it breaks my heart.

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>>6028431
>However, when their own went to Antarctica to view and film the 24 hour sun, they moved the goal posts, and it's no longer a criteria for proving globe earth.
oh so they did exactly the same sleight of hand as the string theory jews, the black hole jews, the dark matter jews and the dark energy jews?
cool
make way, retards, we know your game
your belief system sucks, we'll make up our own
it's flat because you're pathetic creeps

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>>6028007
>without some other crazy addition to the house of cards that is the flat earth model.
dark energy dark matter black holes should we go on
the flat earthers understand one thing: belief trumps reason, senses and thinking
just like the kabbalist jews do
you think it's science, but it's religion, it's always been religion
reason is just a veneer, a deception, a mind trick

difference is, flatties PICK their own beliefs instead of letting the jewrats do that for them

>>6028746
this
it's all a mindcontrol trick
look at the tards ITT using reason to reinforce their own programming put in their minds by the wizards

>>6028655
>FErs are conspiratorial in many other ways, but always in the same ways.
and globetards are always vaxtards
by globetards i dont mean everyone who believes the earth is round, but the ones who make it their business to fight flatearthers publicly
this is an old feature of the skepdik community btw, they always have pushed govcorp propaganda in its rankest most ironclad form
because in the and, what they are is enforcers of the status quo

>>6028655
> instead chose "Option B" instead of "Option A", and think the B stands for "better".
option B IS better because it breaks you out of the govcorp maze
once you're flying you can go any which way you want

>>6028746
Ellen Page was such a pretty woman. Such a shame she got crazy and turned herself into a pretend man.

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>>6028865
not high enough
when the curve shows, it's either fish eye lense or CGI
easy peazy
just like any other belief system, starting with ScienceTM
see how it works?
especially after the little covid shitshow, scitards have nothing to stand on anymore
science has always been governance, not inquiry
it merely pretends to be inquiry, just like any priesthood does

yeah i know the sci method isn't a person, it's a process
a process that at no step takes reality into account or even looks for it
• observations: phenomenae, i.e. appearances
•reasonings: based upon axioms i.e. assumptions
•end result: predictive models, zero knowledge of reality guaranteed

science is SOLD to you as knowledge, but it is expressedly designed to stay away from it
now scientism as a religion is designed to collapse eventually (just like any other jewish usury bubble) and here we are

>Adverb
expressedly
(chiefly nonstandard or archaic) In a way that is expressed or made explicit.

darnit

>>6030139
A protective thermal cover is not a hatch.

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>>6028910
>never pick your own beliefs, rely upon rules and communities set up by the jews instead
slavery system

I can replicate the funny shadows on the moon as a scale system with two balls and a flashlight but I cannot do the same for any form of flat earth model. Funny that.

>>6030706
flaterfers have been here forever, it's globetards who are the anomaly
sayonara alienfreaks
hope you find your turd planet of origin:) (and discover it was all inside jewish colons forever)

What's also funny is if me and the homies round the world hop on a video call the constellations we can see are different. Strange!

>>6030731
you're a retarded contrarian monkey. you can see the seeds of this retardation right in this post

Something else I find pretty funny, how come a dumb dirty jeet from 5000 years ago can make sound mathematical proofs for round earth, but asking the same thing of a white flat earther sends them into absolute fits? https://www.wilbourhall.org/pdfs/aryabhatiyaenglish.pdf

How peculiar!

>>6028440
>on the other hand the roundness of the earth has essentially zero impact on anything. nobody has anything to gain or lose from it being one way or the other.
the loss is that you're fucking retarded or mentally ill if you think it's flat. it's a massive red flag that your brain is screwed in some way, abd chances are you carry a bunch of other retarded beliefs in your bag, such as being a paranoid, schizophrenic luddite antivaxxer who believes that everything is a government plot to control you

Another funny thing: this globe earth mathematical model is so dang precise in predictions of the movements of various solar bodies of which we can observe. https://www.wilbourhall.org/pdfs/aryabhatiyaenglish.pdf

But there's no flat earth model that can tell me where the sun is gonna be at what time! Gosh, I wonder why that is?

>>6030767
Oops I got trolled by my clipboard. I meant to post this funny link, not the jeet math again. https://ftp.imcce.fr/pub/ephem/planets/vsop2013/solution/README.pdf

And here's VSOP2013 implemented in software for those of you who are too retarded to deal with math yourself (most of you, I'm assuming).

https://github.com/omarreis/vsop2013

But if there's any practical and repeatable experiments or proofs which one can use to validate the existence of a flat earth I sure would love to see em! hard mode: no posting nonsense schizo babble from the flat earth website which is neither practical nor repeatable in the real world.

Nothing to say then? That's what I fucking thought you brownoid flat earther fucks. Quit trying to screw with uneducated peoples' heads.

>>6030757
the analogy with flat earth is perfect
globetards are abused trauma victims, rationalizing from inside and under their mental prison
they traded the firmament-globe for a mental one
they made the finite infinite in their cosmological model, by doing the reverse in their mindscape
just like the deep jews are planning to invert heaven and hell to live underground and feast upon the 8 billion goyim's flesh, if it's even 8 billion (china alone may be half what advertised)

>>6030788
GLOBETARD!

>>6030735
She was lesbian anyway so nothing was lost

>>6027355
Magic hovering flashlight that doesn't get smaller or change into an oval as it moves away, but instead sets over the horizon, proves no flat earth.

>>6028007
Don't forget that people in the S. Hemisphere each standing (according to the flat earth "map") at different locations, facing away from each other, looking out directly at the southern horizon- each see the same stars.

>>6027298
>It's all over for the CIA
this is probably a CIA thread lmao

>>6028608
Why would every country participate and not whistle-blow? Good luck explaining that one away.

>>6030731
I've never been vaxxed or even tested.

The sun's path in the sky.

In the summer, the sun's path is high. It goes almost directly overhead in the US and Europe.

In the winter, it's much lower in the sky, much further off center. This is because of the Earth's tilt on its axis.

On the Flat Earth model, most of you claim the sun simply makes a smaller circle during summer in the northern hemisphere, thereby covering more of the north and causing winter in the southern hemisphere.

The problem here, and it's a really big problem, is that, in summer, the sun would have to travel slower in the sky in order for days to remain 24 hours. Then as the circle grows wider for our winter months, it would have to travel faster in order to cover the same distance in the same 24 hours.

This doesn't happen. The sun always moves 15 degrees per hour, no matter where you are on Earth. It never speeds up, or slows down. It never changes shape or size, as it would have to in the flat Earth model. It's always the same sun, and we can fully predict exactly where it's going to be at any future point using the Globe model. And it's always right.

Flat Earth has no working model that can make predictions. They actually steal the globe model and try to make it fit onto their incorrect model, after the globe scientists did all the work. There is no use for the flat Earth model in any field, and it has never predicted an eclipse. The globe model can predict any eclipse that will happen for the next 10,000 years with perfect accuracy. There has never been an eclipse that didn't happen as predicted. Why not try to predict one with your flat Earth model? Would you even know where to begin?


You lose. Take your L. You earned it.
>in b4 reddit spacing
It's from my own text files. You still lose.

>>6028878
>trust me bro!
you don't have too.. you can just use google
globehead.

>>6031177
>we can fully predict exactly where it's going to be at any future point using the Globe model. >And it's always right.
>Flat Earth has no working model that can make predictions.

You lose.

>>6030745
smartest iToddler

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>>6030736
>>6030146
one think FE did expose were the NASA lies, but trying to say we're trapped under some dome of water is just pure retard shit
please explain how the sun is under the dome and the moon floats around it underneath it, in between the sun and surface
then you need to be able to explain how that works with an eclipse as well as how jets can fly along the pathing to stay within the eclipse

i do agree with its core belief to not trust the mainstream and institutions, but you guys have taken it wayyyy to far
why dont you guys put your energy into exposing real things like the toxins in food/water, exposing how the education system is designed to make us workers and not thinkers
there is so much more productive real shit to put time in effort into
make an MKultra thread instead, post about mind control experiments

i'm also convinced no FE person has ever used an actual telescope
i've seen Jupiter's stripes and saturn's rings with my own eye through a nice telescope
there are people's whole careers that revolve around that, unrelated to nasa

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>>6031177
im having trouble understanding with a couple of thing when i research them, they all point space being a real thing...but maybe you can help me understand:
how GPS works
why seasons are different between North America and South America
how there are different constellations in the sky that change throughout aforementioned seasons when you're in a different country away from the equator
starlink is pretty cool, i wonder how they do high speed low latency wireless internet in remote locations including the middle of the sea without using satellites

jk i know you're all just gonna not reply or simply deflect and spiral into name calling

>>6031232
that clip is hilarious!

>>6027327
why even go to that effort. you can order a hobby grade weather balloon from amazon, a case of beer and some cheap digital camera and a gps for like 400 bucks (plus the helium). assemble, sit on your ass, drink the case of beer while you wait, and recover the camera. viola, undisputable proof the worlds flat, apparently.

this shit is so easy and trivial to do, its a school project. for children. done literally hundreds of times a year by literal school children.

and strangely, not one single flat earther.

>>6031449
It's a cult where you just repeat the sacred mantras without question. Conducting actual experiments is dangerous to the cult because they will undoubtedly undermine every bit of "secret knowledge" they have.

>>6027298
Globe model makes accurate predictions.

Flat earthers run from making predictions and dont even have a model.

Tells you you need to know

>>6030724 etf are you talking about retard,
Flatties literally get told what to believe then never question it, repeat it over and over again to themselves whenever thet get scared, which is often.

>>6030736
Stupid lying cunt.

Heres a non fisheye high altutude balloon video.

https://youtu.be/dVOLj1je0lk?si=Yp-A88JrXjaaR0jN

You fell for the dumbest hoax ever, take yourself before the shame catcges up with you. No one will miss you.

>>6031232
Theres a flat earyer called space audits, hes a fat retard and he keeps saying flat earth can be ecplained by "two hemispheres stuck together" without realising hes describing a globe.

Hes so fucking stupid, itakes me laugh so much. Cant wait for him to have a heart attack, the stupid fat fuck lmao

>>6031224
Flat earth idiots purposefully dont focus their telescopes so they can pretend they are right. They only know lies

>>6031486
>keeps saying flat earth can be ecplained by "two hemispheres stuck together" without realising hes describing a globe
That has to be satire.

I don't understand why anyone buys into Flat Earth except to be deliberately contrarian.
The Horizon is visible proof of the Earth's curvature. If the Earth were flat anybody could easily prove it by going to the beach with a telescope and looking across the ocean.
There are way better conspiracies out there to make you feel like you know some great secret that the sheeple are too blind to see, that aren't readily disproved by basic observation, like The Titanic, the JFK assassination, the Moon landing, 9/11, or even people putting chemicals in the water to turn the freakin' frogs gay.

Why does gravity gets weird as deeper you dig a hole?

Isn't the flat earth model just a joke for online trolls? No one really believes this.

>>6031522
>except to be deliberately contrarian
contrarians are 99.99% of flat earthers, they just seek attention

>>6031522
>I don't understand why anyone buys into Flat Earth except to be deliberately contrarian.
Dumb fucks who never made it past 7th or 8th grade but think they're smart are easy to convince. With one simple trick they now have access to hidden knowledge so they are special.

>>6031546
Define weird, and provide examples of what you think is weird.

>>6027977
dont knock it if you have nothing of any worth to replace it with.
('it' being the thing we can all see the moon and stars hanging in)
flat earth is fakeandgay, i replace it with the functioning helicentric model that contains all our knowledge and we use it to predict the motion of astral bodies and other things like the earths shadow passing over our moon.

hi, flat earther here
we made these threads on TV, GIF and X
and we got invaded and offended by people pointing out simple observations that proved us wrong.
so we made a new thread, on a new board, hoping that nobody would find us and make us sad again.
but you found us!
how did this happen? here, on this public website???

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>>6031232
>they all point space being a real thing
Air pressure alone point space to be fake.

>how GPS works
You GPS device is tracked by the nearest telecom hardware. Air/water coolers can't prevent overheat in a vaccum. Therefore is logical to assume everything necessary for GPS to work is here on earth.

>why seasons are different between North America and South America
The sun travel spirals between tropics. It takes 6 months traveling inside equator and 6 months outside.

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>>6032543
just stating things doesnt mean its a fact
the burden of proof is on you
but we both know you'll continue to not do that and just use deflection tactics
i already mentioned the nasa lies here >>6031224

>>6031486
hot dog earth is also a possibility and FE people are probably just looking down the long side??

>>6031728
>>6032543
>there are people who actually follow and even save stuff from this shit stain of a human being called Nathan Oakley

>Air pressure alone point space to be fake.
Air pressure existing is evidence space is real.

>GPS device is tracked by the nearest telecom hardware
Nowhere as accurate as actual GPS.

>The sun travel spirals between tropics. It takes 6 months traveling inside equator and 6 months outside
Any evidence outside of your ass of that?

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>>6032550
There is nothing one can say that will change the fact that level can be found everywhere using water levels.

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>>6032616
There can be no air pressure without a barrier.

>>6033466
Why not? And transferring large amount of data via satellite would be rediculous, it would be extremely slow, expensive, or both

>>6027298
I'm pretty sure these threads are actual CIA smokescreens

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>>6033461
undeniable proof of flat earth everyone!
thanks this anon, shower him with praise and adoration
well done sir

>>6033461
>what is a tangent
These threads are always great fun

>>6033500
this tiny bit of data can be extrapotated in any way i choose!
flat earther 'thinking'.
keeping belief alive by turning the intellect to mush.

>>6032543
>Air pressure alone point space to be fake.
so the moon is surrounded by air, because solids can have a top, liquids can have a top but air has to go on up forever. (flat earthers have trouble understanding things they cant see)
but the moon does not get slowed down by drag because of a special rule that magically appears when the point is raised.

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>>6033484
>Why not?
Nothing one can say or do will change the fact that nature abhors a vacuum.
>transferring large amount of data via satellite would be rediculous, it would be extremely slow, expensive, or both
In order to be slow or expensive, it must be possible first. There is no way for starlink to work as mentioned by >>6031232 in place that doesn't exist.

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>>6027327
>>6027298
>>6028007
>>6028878
Do you see the reflection on the other side of this model? This is how the 24 hour sun works, its just a reflection. Flat earthers initially predicted that there would be a 24 hour sun in antarctica. The "final" flat earth "debate" was held by a very pathetic loser who only accepted the most mouthbreathing flat earthers onto the show. Anyone with any actual points were booted off. Look at the southernisraelite youtube channel, he has a video proving that he was invited onto the show but booted last minute since he actually had arguments.

>>6034069
>This is how the 24 hour sun works, its just a reflection
only its not how reality works because reality contains many things that your model does not.
there is a model that does encompass all observed phenomena and events, its called the 'heliocentric model',
we use it to literally predict the future.
unlike the flat earth model, which was binned hundreds of years ago because its a dogshit hypothesis

>>6031655
>>6032237
>>6031522
I mean, considering the amount of drool puddling over your chins and screen, due to the autism that you cant comprehend a horizon would have a vanishing point, this post will just be coated anyways your monitor is likely too coated to see with those puny neckbeard eyes, so im sending it purely for your caretaker to slowly explain to you

>>6033767
yeah flat earth niggas?
you think the sky is all air, why is the moon able to move through air at 3 times the speed of sound?
hard mode; no trying to pick apart how we know what the speed of sound is.
And yes, we do know how fast the moon moves because we are able to look and measure.

>>6034071
There is no Heliocentric or Geocentric models to scale: Space.com Site, "Solar System Built To Scale In Nevada Desert by Steve Spaleta": (link), In order to build a scale model with the earth the size of a tiny marble it would have to be 579ft away from the sun.

Items missing from the Heliocentric theoretical model: Scale Experimental Model, Curvature(Based on Non-Euclidean Geometry), Gravity, Space, Math, Geometry, Momentum, Mass, Inertia, Motion, Light, Force, Time, Causality(No Philosophy of Science), Optics(No sensation, no perception), Justified Induction...etc.

a flat plane with a ball of light above would mean no night time
check mate

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>>6034083
Do you own eyes

>>6034085
do you own a brain?
the sun wouldn't stop shining just because it moves around above, there's nothing hindering it if the earth would be flat

>>6034090
Do you know what a vanishing point is?

>>6034095
sure, why are you bringing that up? It's for art school and shit
surely you're not going to apply that to the sun which has no parallel lines?

>>6034040
It does work. Vacuums exist in space, but it's not a hard boundry. Simply saying "vacuums can't be real" doesn't make it so

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>>6034069
so the sun is under water now and above the firmament?
i thought, according to flerf, it was inside the dome
interdasting, very very interdasting
why is the sun overhead at noon time and not at your convenient angle??

how does this work with your little light and snow globe >>6028865
put the moon in your 'model' if you can call it that
do the sun and moon....float ...in water?
lololol ^___^

>>6034085
your example is fabricated to support your argument and holds no validity
very low intelligence if you believe things like this
but then again we know you're just grifting

>>6030757
Who are these people?

>>6034075
Please show that vanishing point, and show that the sun, moon and stars just simply vanish instead of being obstructed bottom first.

>>6033466
>>6034040
This is something that's been explained a thousand times over, so you're either really dumb, or you're pretending.

>>6034069
>Flat earthers initially predicted that there would be a 24 hour sun in antarctica
This is such a blatant lie.
>its just a reflection
The sun is no reflection. A simple polarised filter allows you to tell if a source of light is a reflection or not.

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>>6034131
Until you demonstrate gas pressure adjacent to a vacuum without a barrier, vaccum of space is nothing but an assumption.

Even if your vacuum of space assumption was real, without air and water, no cooling system would be able to prevent overheat under constant direct sunlight.

>>6034263
see
>>6033767
>>6034076
now with a simple device you can tell that gas pressure goes down as altitude goes up.
hmm, curious.
how high do you go before gas pressure drops to zero?
this and many other intersting facts killed the flat earth hypothosis a long time ago.
perhaps you require education and not to dwell on fantasy

>>6034263
see
>>6034168
now the ISS has been in orbit for years.
we can see it with telescopes.
we know when it will appear and in what part of the sky because its orbit is predictable.
now why do you think it has not been slowed down by drag?
this may be the proof you seek, that there is no air up there to slow it down.
We worked all this out decades ago and proved it by putting objects in orbit that we can see with our own eyes.

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>>6034323
>now with a simple device you can tell that gas pressure goes down as altitude goes up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8-pxkaipcg
decrease in pressure within a barrier is demonstrable. It does not debunk the flat earth model.

>>6034330
In order for "ISS in vacuum of space" assumption even be considered, you have to demonstrate gas pressure without a barrier first.

>>6034355
nta but there is plenty of other things that completely and thoroughly debunk flat earth
i've noticed you've completely ignored those posts
but such is the grifter life
your ridiculous videos do not mean anything

>In order for "ISS in vacuum of space" assumption even be considered, you have to demonstrate gas pressure without a barrier first.
he doesnt need to prove anything because you can just use a telescope and see it yourself
or do you think its just somehow hovering just below the firmament or something?
your guys' arguments make no sense

>>6031728
BASED sly sparkane demeaner

>>6034355
People don't have to demonstrate anything for you, they have already observed that there has never been any barrier. You're the retard who comes up with this barrier hypothesis, it's on you to demonstrate its necessity and existence.

In your fantasy world, is the moon above or under this barrier?

>>6034366
These retards will do anything but simple experiments that will deny their hypotheses.

>>6034355
>demonstrate gas pressure without a barrier
you do understand that this thing we call atmosphere needs to be around a body with sufficiant gravity to hold gas near it.
you do understand that you are demanding a godlike being to create a world, surround it with gas and then transport you to it so you can see.
you do understand that while you stood on this new world that you would come out with all your usual retard observations and the demonstration would have no point.
you do understand how pointless the words you type are.
you do understand that if i had these powers i would not do as you ask and simply drag you into earths orbit and watch you suffocate.

>>6034547
It's just one of their tactics to demand something impossible and claim victory, whereas normal people will just say they have already observed the phenomenon and there's no need to replicate it in utterly impossible conditions in order to "verify" it. It's similar to those who ask for a replication of an object revolving around another to demonstrate gravity.
What these idiots seek is not truth, it's just contrarianism mixed with stupidity and schizo/paranoid mindset.

>>6034355
>assumption even be considered, you have to demonstrate gas pressure without a barrier first.
no.
its existence is not an assumption.
you are just telling me that you cannot build understanding due to you getting stuck on quandaries that you have invented.
you have a learning disability and you have my pity.

>>6034552
the feeling of being right must be the thing they crave.
i could understand a retarded belief if it was part of a functioning cult like scientology, with a lot of money at stake if it all fell apart.
but is there really that much money in the world of flattys?

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The Earth is an oblate spheroid. What that means is that the Earth is roughly a sphere, but it's wider around the equator than around the poles. Imagine you have a sphere and you press it down from the top to slightly squash it - the remaining squashed sphere is roughly the shape of Earth.

>>6034559
>is there really that much money in the world of flattys
The gurus make money off of their dumb followers. The one who paid some jeet to make a flat earth app reportedly sold it to several dozens of thousand people, at 3 dollars apiece, so he at least has made quite a chunk of money. On top of being a scam, the app is also ridiculously weak on the cybersecurity side, storing passwords unhashed and other stuff that allowed people to doxx all users. One of them, Witsit, another guru-wannabe, apparently lost his crypto wallet because of it, because of course he's dumb enough to use the same password for everything.
Many others are much less successful. There's one called Nathan Oakley who's so toxic everyone around him deserts him after a while, and he now has to do door to door proselytising on Chatroulette or some other similar platform.
The world of flat earthers is just a race to the bottom, and it's genuinely hilarious to watch, albeit painful to witness.

>>6034567
fucking hell.
that is depressing.
scammers truly are the cancer that civilization has been fighting forever.
i guess that is what makes me post in these treads, i just want to free the victims of this mind control trap.

>>6034571
It's better to give up, and just make fun of their stupidity. They have a handful of tactics which will drag you into a quagmire if you're unfamiliar, and you'll just waste your time. After a while, you'll realise you are talking with either truly ignorant people who will not understand half the words you've written, or more likely trolls who 100% understand what you're trying to say, but will misinterpret it, move the goalposts, try to hyperfocus on one tiny aspect of the subject while ignoring everything else, or any combination of those.
I've once seen a conversation on /x/ between some retard who started talking about trips across Antarctica, saying there has been none. When shown there have been a bunch, then suddenly it became trips in one particular direction because it "would then definitely prove earth round". When shown why it wouldn't matter, it became 100% filmed trips, as if people departing from one point and reappearing at another weeks later with a bunch of data collection along the way isn't enough. Then after all this circus is done, then it circled back to "why hasn't there been a trip in that one particular route? Then it would prove to me earth round".

>>6034562
It also has a bump where Africa is.

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Anybody who lives at the beach with islands off the coast knows the earth is round. You see way more of the island the closer you are to it. Drive down the coast 50 miles and the huge island that's only 20 miles off the coast disappears. The moon is a sphere. The Sun is a sphere. Mars is a sphere. Jupiter is a sphere. Saturn is a sphere. Neptune is a sphere. Uranus is a sphere. Mercury is a sphere. Venus is a sphere. Pluto is a sphere. You telling me that the only thing in the whole solar system that's flat is earth? Hilarious.

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>>6034366
>nta but there is plenty of other things that completely and thoroughly debunk flat earth
Wrong. The fact that instrument can find level everywhere on earth debunks the ball claim. Regardless of what you think about stuff we see up above, the surface below your feet can't be a ball.

>>6034516
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>>6034555
Ad hominem does not prove air pressure adjacent to a vacuum.

>>6035084
>>6035089
>>6035097
lmao grifters are such silly geese
im still curious how you can explain the planes flying in an eclipse
or even how an eclipse works on the FE model
im still waiting flerf-chan

>>6031232
>how GPS works
I'll bite, the US navy already admitted they have fleets, with an s, of ships that monitor satellites specifically GPS, how hard would it be to, you know, just have dishes on those ships, coordinating the earth?

>>6035141
okay good question, and i ask a question of that
how do people in the middle of nowhere get that signal

>>6035084
What's so hard to understand that you do not need a barrier if you have a force exerting on the gas? Gravity keeps the gas on the surface but its force weakens as you go up, which explains the pressure difference people with functioning brains observe. Zero need for a made up barrier.
Normal people have discovered so much with any need for your dumb barrier, and you're just a dumb ass if you cling to a one sentence mantra. So, it's on you to demonstrate that this barrier exists. Just repeating vacuum can't exist without barrier again and again doesn't make it true. How high is that barrier? Are the stuff we see in the sky above it, on it, or under it? What is it made of? How come no one has ever found any evidence of it? You talk a lot about it but provide nothing to back it up, again falling back on dumb mantras that can be and have been easily refuted.

>>6035402
>Gravity
debunked

>>6035145
fleets with an s, of ships, over a 1000, constantly sending signals. located all over the oceans of the world.

>>6035417
You saying it's debunked doesn't make it so. It's readily observable, measurable, and people can make accurate predictions based on the current understanding of it. It's not debunked, and people have tried to do it for centuries.

>>6035420
Funny how no one has ever seen these ships if there are so many of them. You also think these ship are unmanned? These thousands of ships must employ tens if not hundreds of thousands of people, and we're even talking about their logistics, but somehow everything can remain so secret that nothing has leaked for decades?

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>>6035402
>Gravity keeps the gas on the surface but its force weakens as you go up, which explains the pressure difference people with functioning brains observe.
We observe density and buoyancy. The theory of gravity is just an attempt to reconcile daily observations and the ball earth assumption.

>>6035550
Buoyancy is a force in reaction to gravity, you dumb fuck. It's the upward force of a fluid or gas reacting to an object's weight. Now the trillion dollar question, weight is the result of what?
Also, the formula to calculate buoyancy literally uses gravity in it, but I doubt you've ever looked at it, much less understand it.
I assume you say "theory of gravity" in an attempt to discredit it, because your dumb brain can't comprehend words have different meanings depending on context, so you wouldn't understand a theory in science is about as verified as you can get, outside of laws.

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>>6035581
>Also, the formula to calculate buoyancy literally uses gravity in it, but I doubt you've ever looked at it, much less understand it.
Wrong. The average man understood buoyancy way before newton came up with his theory. If the supposed ball under the sea was true, no man would have sailed to America and back to Europe.

>>6035727
They could use it, but there was no accurate calculation as we understand it now. You really think any average man understood it millennia ago? You don't even understand it now, in 2025.
Also, don't try to deflect from the questions in >>6035402, you're still trying to push for a hypothesis, so you have to provide answers, not the normal people who already have a working model.

>>6035420
that doesnt answer my question
how can a ship in the pacific or the atlantic send a signal to say...colorado?
colorado is more west, but its also blocked the rockies that would prevent any type of direct signal
then there is iowa, nebraska, illinois and that whole region
on top of thtat why has no one seen these 1000's of ships?

>>6035550
>>6035727
>>6035738
>>6035738
>>6035744
still avoiding the eclipse question flerf-chan
:)
waiting!!!!!

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>>6027298
It is round because inner product makes it round. Simple as. If you don't understand is because you are stupid or ignorant.

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I guess my physics degree and DoD job aren't important enough, since I never got invited to the conspiracy.

>>6035850
Your average flat earther will have no idea how academia works, he just thinks people get mind controlled to regurgitate information without any thinking. Very ironic.

>>6031224
The 'man' in your webm is homosexual and/or gay; I do not like him.

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Let me try this again and please tell me how you could still think the earth is flat?

Sun - SPHERE
Moon - SPHERE
Mercury - SPHERE
Venus - SPHERE
Earth - FLAT
Mars - SPHERE
Jupiter - SPHERE
Saturn - SPHERE
Uranus - SPHERE
Neptune - SPHERE
Pluto - SPHERE

You really don't see the problem here? Really???

time for flattys to take up a religion that doesnt require 24/7 defense against basic reason built on observation.
also one that actually makes money

>>6034263
It's not a hard line where you have full pressure and then suddenly perfect vacuum. Pressure drops gradually as you move away from the earth. The thermosphere and beyond is a near vacuum but air pressure can still be measured as far out as 10k km from the surface

>>6034069
Create a mathematical model of this and use that to predict the position of the sun, shadows, reflections, etc. You'd be a genius if you can show your model predicts the same as the globe earth model.

>>6036254
>basic reason built on observation.
I look out of the plane. It's flat. I look out at sea, it's flat. That's it. Globies seem to be struggling with mental gymnastics constantly proven wrong by simple things like airplane paths or measuring the circumference of anartica.

>>6034355
The earth and all other bodies demonstrate this. Since the burden of proof is on you, you would have to demonstrate that air pressure can only exist with a barrier

>>6036136
>how to tell if someone is spiritually dead in one simple sentence

>>6036261
Yeah because your eyes are so much more betterer than everyone's else so you can discern less than 1° differences in elevation. Normal people rely on measurements which tell them the horizon isn't flat.
People out there, using some steel bars, a table and duct tape have managed to construct a simple experiment to visualise if the horizon is actually flat. And guess what, it isn't. If you want to refute it, go out and repeat the experiment, it only requires things you can literally buy at any home depot. We know you won't though because it goes against your indoctrination.

>>6034355
The best thing about these threads is seeing the simple explanations to these questions. So, how do we see the ISS?

>>6033461
Water only locally appears to be flat because the curve of the earth is so great. The rest of the whole "water level = flat" thing is just linguistic weirdness and doesn't reflect reality.

>>6034263
A force needs to hold the air in place. How do you suggest we replicate the force of a gravity of a planet without a planet-sized object? This would be a massive experiment.
But just think about it logically. If enough force is acting downwards on air molecules, why wouldn't there be vacuum next to air? What would counteract the downward force? And if another object was similarly trapped by the same force, why would it not experience more pressure as it got deeper into the air, as it would have more and more air overhead with downward force over it?
Maybe if you share where your specific issue with this line of reasoning is, there's a more viable experiment. Or maybe another anon has an idea for how we can replicate the effect of gravity.

>>6036261
>>6036365
To add to that, if you want to prove you can discern eye level with one degree of accuracy, go to a tall plank of wood, put it against a wall, take a marker, and mark where you think eye level is at arm's length.
Then go right up face to face with the plank of wood. If it's not at eye level, you can't do it.
And this is with the help of being at near-eye-level since you're only an arm's length away. If you really want to test it, try it with a laser pointer a few paces away and have a friend mark where you're pointing.

>>6036365
>less than 1° differences in elevation
dude what. either the earth is 30x bigger than they say or you just don't understand round objects, left to right the curve would be incredible pronounced when looking out to sea.

>>6036526
>left to right the curve would be incredible pronounced when looking out to sea
Of course you've done the maths so you can confidently say how much of an angle there should be, right?
Smarter people than you have already done these maths, one guy even did a visualiser, for both the globe model, and a flat earth model, so it's trivial to check his results against reality and see which one is correct, but of course it's easier for you to just spout bullshit instead of actually researching anything.
For reference, on his globe model, at sea level, and for a 1,8m tall human, the dip angle is around 0,04°, so I guess your eyes aren't that good if you couldn't discern the curve.
Now, surely you have some measurements that would show how flat the earth is, right?

>>6036526
You can't really see that far. We're talking like 3 miles if you're standing on the ground

>>6027327
Austin never said that fagg. He also is still a flat earther

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>>6035752
>You really think any average man understood it millennia ago?
Yes.
>You don't even understand it now, in 2025
Even a child can fold a working paper boat after some practice. If men did built boats before newton was born, there is no reason to assume the theory of gravity was ever been necessary to understand buoyancy.
>don't try to deflect from the questions in >>6035402, you're still trying to push for a hypothesis, so you have to provide answers, not the normal people who already have a working model.
The barrier is real bro. All you have to do is to look up above and you will see it.

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Why aren't there more flat planets? How thick is our flat planet? We can drill pretty deep nowadays, what's on the the bottom? Dirt??? Lol

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>>6036819
>If men did built boats before newton was born, there is no reason to assume the theory of gravity was ever been necessary to understand buoyancy
They understood how to use it, not the principles behind it. You do not understand either.
>Yes
Any average man was a boat builder?
>All you have to do is to look up above and you will see it
Just like how you can just look at the horizon and see it's flat? We already refuted that. And you still haven't answered the questions in >>6035402. We know you don't have any, but your attempts at deflections are pathetically weak.

>>6036825
>sky blue at any normal time
>turns orange under specific conditions
So now you're advancing the hypothesis the earth is a globe but suddenly turns flat at times? That at least is new. Pray tell how it happens, and when.

>>6027298
Globe model makes accurate predictions.

Flat earthers are stupid cunts who will never try and predict anything because they will lose their income. I hope you get doxxed and your house burned down.

>>6035084
You think south is down you fucking idiot. End your life

>>6035097
Stupid bitch doesmt understand a what a pressure gradient is.

If you cant understand that, you will never make it anywhere in life.

Which is good, you deserve a life of utter misery and confusion.

>>6035417
I can measure it with my phone. Please go to pol, get radicalised and shot by the police.

I want to see your mother on the news in tears

>>6035727
One day you will be found out for this shit and kicked to death in the stret

>>6036667
Austin will get found in public one day and be brutally murdered. I cant wait.

Then oakley next. Last thing they will say is that they were just pretending to make money and that they never thought earth was flat.

>>6036819
Bouancy requires gravity.

People understood things were pulled to earth before gravity was discovered.

I have measured gravity myself. Go fuck yourself you lying little shit.

Youll pay for lying one day

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You think Elon is launching all these rockets and 1000's of satellites covering every inch of the surface with high speed internet and then going to Mars but he's not going to take a picture of the flat earth first to prove the flat earthers are right??? Makes perfect sense.

We're all talking to a brick wall of idiocracy. Pic related.

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>>6036274
>he defends the effeminate bitchspeak

>>6036824
>webm
that song is nice. it sounds a lot like a techno version of 'playing to win' by john farnham. what is it?

>>6036819
>The barrier is real bro. All you have to do is to look up above and you will see it.
just look bro, NO DONT LOOK AT THAT ISS AS IT GOES BY AND PROVES ME WRONG FOR ALL TIME!!!!!
SEEING THE SPACE STATION IN ORBIT PROVES NOTHING!
anyway, look at that barrier that you cant actually see and if it did exist it would be beyond the furthest measuarble stars and would be a construction so large its laughable.

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>>6036829
>Any average man was a boat builder?
The average man throughout centuries was a survivor. Those born into families living for the sea knew how to build boats.
>They understood how to use it, not the principles behind it. You do not understand either.
Nature would never allow for the average man to survive if he was a retard. Newton was a retard, but his father inheritance provided for him to live in a safe space. He didn't risk his life in the field testing him assumptions.

>stand on top of mount everest
>see the entire world
damn it really is that simple huh?

>>6037080
>going from any man was a boat builder to any man living by the sea
Nice goalpost moving, retard.
>Newton was a retard, but his father inheritance provided for him to live in a safe space. He didn't risk his life in the field testing him assumptions
How about you test your assumptions, or answer the questions people have asked you throughout the thread, instead? That would convince more people than attacking others while providing nothing?

>>6037095
Surely we can get some evidence of that, given the thousands of people who have climbed it.

>>6036858
Why are there no satellites in any pictures of the earth? Surely there must be tens of thousands of them up there orbiting

The scariest part is the schizo has dozens of videos saved as video.webm or video.mp4

>>6037175
Why not do your own research which you idiots are so hung up on?
Since you have no measurements of the earth, take the globe model's, and check that against the size of an average satellite, and tell us if it's reasonable to expect to be able to see satellites when you photograph the earth.
Alternatively, just look at the fucking sky, and tell us if you can see airplanes if they don't leave a contrail behind. Now, apply that same logic to things that are dozens of times smaller, the average satellite is around the size of a big car, flying dozens of times higher.
Who's your flat earth daddy, by the way? Oakley? Your tactics feel similar, albeit less toxic.

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>>6037108
>How about you test your assumptions, or answer the questions people have asked you throughout the thread, instead? That would convince more people than attacking others while providing nothing?

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>>6037257
>hurr durr we can't do research because we don't have the resources that the other side has access to
People have used a literal stick and a well to calculate the circumference of the earth, within 10% of modern measurements, 2 thousand years ago.
Other people have used steel bars, a table and fucking duct tape to observe the horizon's curve.
What you don't have that other people have is just a functioning brain. That's it.
You're just a bunch of retards who think much higher of yourselves than you deserve. That's all you are.

>>6036830
>Globe model makes accurate predictions.
plane routes literally take like 2x as long in the southern hemisphere. There's tons of letters from old ship captains using the glob earth model questioning why their voyages were 800 miles off course.

>>6037403
Give one flight that supposedly flies twice as long as predicted, and one ship captain name. People are dying to finally unveil the truth on this matter.

>>6037415
Perth to Buenos Aires, Charlee's B. Browne.

>>6037419
Perth to Buenos Aires has no direct flight that I could find, but found one that goes to Auckland first, which is even farther south. And the flight from Auckland to Buenos Aires takes 12 hours, for a air distance of roughly 10 300km, which is similar to same distance flights in the north. Now what? Turns out you're full of shit, surprising no one.
Couldn't find anything on your Charlee's B. Browne after a quick search.

>>6037403
Youre a fucking idiot.

Globe navigation is currently accurate down to 2cm

Meanwhile, navigation cant be done using a flat earth at all.

ALL navigation is based on a globe.

But thats a distraction away from predictions.

Theres a reason you cant address predictions


Globe model makes accurate predictions, flat earthers wont even try because they know thety cant.

Make a flat earth prediction and show your work.

I predict you wont even try because youre a useless, waste of a life.

punch it up your cunt you lying coward little bitch

>>6036928
>imma call this dude effeminate
>that'll show him how alpha and not gay i really am
nobody is buying it bro
you're projecting because you're insecure and triggered by a guy who likes telescopes and space
keep jerking it to tranny porn and telling yourself you're straight
kek

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>>6037445
>ALL navigation is based on a globe.

>>6037445
>ALL navigation is based on a globe.
lies, again, and you are growing increasingly frustrated which is amusing.

>>6037427
https://www.expedia.com/Flights-Search?trip=oneway&leg1=from:PER,to:EZE,departure:3/27/2026TANYT&passengers=children:0,adults:1,seniors:0,infantinlap:N&mode=search&options=sortby:price&paandi=true&flp=mdl:flights-flex-module,price:931.80&airProductToken=AQqOAQouCMqiARIDOTcxGI-JASCMWSis4IgDMIPiiAM4SUAAWAFqAlNMcghPTEVTTFo4WgotCMyCARIDODA0GIxZINJYKPrkiAMw8uqIAzhPQAFYAWoCU0xyCE9MRVNMWjhaCi0IzIIBEgM2MjgY0lggpCYowO6IAzC774gDOE9AAVgBagJTTHIIT0xFU0xaOFoSCggBEAEYASoCTEEYASIECAEQASgCKAMoBDAB

32 hours you absolute lying piece of shit

>>6028865
i would literally piss myself and shit myself and cry like a bitch until we landed
man is not meant for the sky

>>6037528
All navugation is based on a globe and there is nothing you can say to change this fact.

Where are you predictions you stupid faggot?

Thanks for confirming no flat faggot can make accurate predictions.

Meanwhile the globe predictions are so accurate, they are written in the newspaper.

Weather, temp, wind, tides, solar activity. All accurately predicted by the globe model.

Flat earth cant do that.

I hate liars like you, pretending to be a flat earther, literally playing pretend like a stupid kid.

One day, im going to find a flat earth troll in real life and carve the word flat in their forehead so they are scarred for life and never forget when the time they played pretend.

i would love to see a flat earth troll screaming and crying on the ground about how they were just trolling, blood pouring from their head lol. That makes me smile.

youre a pathetic liar and you wont even try to make a single prediction.

Globe: accurate predictions every time.

Flat earth: too scared to try because they know they will fail.

Fuck off, idiot

>>6037538
a sextant relies on a flat and level plane to function. All cross continental underseas cables are laid along a flat datum. It's right in the engineering manual. Damn dude, you are unraveling at this new found knowledge.

>>6037546
So what retard?

A flat plane can exist on a globe as big as earth.

Sextants are made to work on a globe.

As I said. ALL navigation is based on a globe.

Lying doesnt help you. There is nothing you can say to change this fact, idiot. Kys

>>6037546
Undersea cable lengths match a globe, not a flat plane you fucking imbecile.

The flat earth map shows australia to be twice as big as america, which is retarded. Kys for trolling such a stupid topic

>>6037546
Youve never used a sextant to navigate, lying scum.

Last time a flat earther tried against a normal person, they gave up and the normal person using a globe and sextant succesfully navigated.

Cope and suck it, loser

>>6037551
You are changing your story there Pedro. According to a 24,000 Mile circumference a fourth of a mile is 2 inches of drop.

>>6037558
>>6037558
Youre an idiot who doesnt even know the globe predictions.

This is what happens when sub human iq autists think they can troll flat earth.

The prediction is 1 degrees of curvature every 69 miles.

So see if you can figure out how many degrees of curve will be in less that one mile, you astronomical fool

This is why you should leave the trolling to grown ups with a working brain LMAO

>>6037558
>>6037558
>>6037558
Youre an idiot who doesnt even know the globe predictions.

This is what happens when sub human iq autists think they can troll flat earth.

The prediction is 1 degrees of curvature every 69 miles.

So see if you can figure out how many degrees of curve will be in less that one mile, you astronomical fool

This is why you should leave the trolling to grown ups with a working brain LMAO

>>6037529
>3 flights in total
>3 hours, 12 hours, and 2 hours respectively
>counting 14 hours of layover time as flight time
What the fuck are you even on?

>>6037546
Surveying textbooks literally talk about level as conforming to the curvature of the earth. At what point dying their education do you think professional surveyors are introduced into the big conspiracy?

>>6027298
The amount of damage this psyop has caused is terrifying and probably irreversible.

>>6030724
Flatties are retarded morons like you, nothing but cattle born to be used as beast of burden or cannon fodder.

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>>6037675
It's more like a comedy. Lighten up a little.

>>6037481
>I like listening to the telescope numale's soft speaking voice
>I'll call other men gay to deflect from my perversion
Whatever floats your faggot boat

>>6037529
You're an absolute retard. Room temperature IQ is too much a praise for you.

>>6037768
you came into a flat earth thread and got triggered by a telescope autist and had to call him gay
now you're just trying to deflect because you cant handle that you're a closeted faggot
keep coping bro

>>6034077
you realise a physical "model" as in one you play with and touch with your hands is not the only use of the word, yes?

they built a model in physical space to visually demonstrate relative sizes, but that's not the "model" people speak of when talking about being able to use it to make predictions and calculations.

egads you flerfs are stupid.

>>6034077
>6. What you’re dealing with

>This post is not just mistaken about one thing — it’s a cascade failure of definitions:

> Misunderstands “model”

> Misunderstands “scale”

> Misunderstands the relationship between physical vs mathematical representations

> Misuses philosophical terms

> Thinks scientific concepts must appear as objects in a tiny diorama

>At that point, you’re not having a debate about evidence — you’re having a debate about basic vocabulary.

Damn, even chatgpt is calling you a moron.

>>6037546
You've never touched an engineering manual, stop lying to yourself.
>a curved surface which at each point is perpendicular to the direction of gravity at the point. The surface of a still water is a truly level surface. Any surface parallel to the mean spheroidal surface of the earth is, therefore, a level surface.
That's the definition for a level surface given in a surveying manual. These things are trivial to look up, so it's amazing people like you who are such good researchers can not find out after so many years. The only explanation I can see is you're a fucking idiot.

>>6027298
Test

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>>6038029
Sokkia Engineers Field Book...
Earth's Curvature = 0.7 feet (8.4 inches) for every mile (63,360 inches).

If you're out on the ocean with your eye 6 ft above the water you can only see 3 miles of surface in any direction.

Formula: Distance in miles = √(2 × height in feet) × 1.15 Or more commonly used: ≈ 1.22 × √h 1.22 × √6 ≈ 1.22 × 2.45 ≈ 3.0 miles.

In a bigger boat with crow's nest 50 ft high you can see about 8 miles and 100 ft up on a huge ship you still only see 12 miles out. If the earth was flat and you're 100 ft up you'd think you'd be able to see a lot further than that but sorry flat earthers, you can't.

>>6031171
They're all apart of the same singular group, this is old news

>>6035820
I think eclipses are caused by the black sun personally. Apparently the moon isn't seen anywhere else prior to the eclipses so something else is happening...

>>6038432
>>6038442
Adding yet another thing you have to provide evidence for, together with the answers to all the questions people have asked you for the last week? Damn, you like a challenge, don't you?

>>6030762
It says the text is from 472AD tho
The Greeks ruled/influenced over half of India like 700 years prior to that

>>6038406
Where are the Southern hemisphere cables...

>>6038883
Answer about the fact you see more of the earth the higher you go, before you try to deflect to something else. Fucking retard can't even move goalposts right.

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>>6038478
I am the one referred as "flerf-chan" in this thread. The 2 posts you replied to are not mine.

With that said. Earth surface has no measurable curvature, therefore there is no ball for the globe model claim about eclipses to be possible. That doesn't mean i accept the black sun claim as true though.

>>6039017
Cell phones don't communicate with satellites directly

>>6038930
Projection. All you do is get angry and move the goal post. Also see more of the earth at higher altitudes is only possible on a flat terrain, the curve would otherwise obscure your view.

>>6039017
>Earth surface has no measurable curvature
People have observed the curve with an apparatus as simple as some straight bars and duct tape. You can even replicate it, if you wish to see for yourself.

>>6039113
You're the most retarded in the most retarded group on this planet. Congrats, you're number one in something in your life.

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Very simple experiment for all flat earthers. No math needed. No steam powered rockets needed. Go to Huntington Beach California. Look out at Catalina Island. Notice how big it looks. Now drive south along the coast for about an hour to Oceanside California. Try to find the same island you just looked at from Huntington Beach. Come back here and report your findings on where the bottom of the island went. Checkmate morons.

>>6039113
>failing that hard at something children can understand
Kill yourself, the average IQ of the world will go up.

>>6038002
>no u
look, i'm sorry that you're retarded but it's not my fault

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>>6039126
Webm related

>>6039217
>Very simple experiment for all flat earthers. No math needed. No steam powered rockets needed. Go to Huntington Beach California.
No need to take a trip. Webm related can be repeated regardless of location.

>>6036415
I know, it's a projection on the dome

>>6037675
Meh, brainlets flinging shit at autists and pedants.
And i learn cool shit when the brainlets get schooled

every morning i wake up im glad im not a schizo that believes in the flat earth psyop

>>6039438
How much curve do you expect to have on a body of water that size? Even if you could calculate it (you can't), you will have no tool precise enough to get a measurement. There's a reason people use the ocean, and even then with tools to visualise the curve, because of how small the it is even when they're a few hundred metres above ocean level. Dumb fuck.

>>6039438
>entire industries rely on and use a globe model to function
>millions of people work with a globe model
>thousands of students do experiments based on a globe model
>random dude in his backyard, equipped with a football, has FOUND THE UNDENIABLE TRUTH
Yeah ok.

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>>6039537
>How much curve do you expect to have on a body of water that size?
Regardless of size, no flatearther expect to find curvature upon the surface of water.

>>6039581
>>Ancient greeks work with a flat earth model
>>random dude, equipped with sticks, has FOUND THE UNDENIABLE TRUTH
Yeah ok.

>>6039628
>no flatearther expect to find curvature upon the surface of water
And that's why you'll always be retards. Bet you've never heard of menisci if you think water surfaces can only be flat.
>random dude, equipped with sticks, has FOUND THE UNDENIABLE TRUTH
Eratosthenes measured the size of our globe. The ancient Greeks already knew the earth was round through observation. You retard can't even get wrong facts right.

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Here's another simple experiment. Again you have to be at a beach. Pretty simple. Any moron can do it. Just before the sun goes DOWN, lay down on the sand and right when the sun disappears BELOW the horizon you stand back up real quick. SUPRISE DUMBASS!!! The sun reappears magically!!!! Not possible if the earth was flat. Only possible if the earth is curved.
DOUBLE CHECKMATE LOSERS!!!!!

>>6039876
More likely than not, they're not allowed outside of mommy's basement without adult supervision. That would explain how they have no idea how the world behaves.

>>6039876
i am completely unfamiliar with flat earth arguments, but it seems to me quite obvious that whatever excuse they have for the sun going 'down' at all will not be debunked by what you describe.

>>6039991
They usually say it's just perspective, and it becomes smaller and smaller until it magically disappears. With a normal brain, you'd realise that gaining some altitude and seeing the sun again would not make sense if it disappears, but since we're talking about the dumbest people on earth, you're right that it would not be debunked, since they don't even understand basic geometry.

All I know is the people attacking flat earths are in this thread are brining no valid points, just anger and lame insults.

Brainwashed zealots hypnotized by government propaganda, it been so hammered into them with shit like Star Wars and Jurassic Park, its no point even trying to debate these people. They are lost.

>itt: people getting baited to argue with retards
Who cares if they think the earth is flat. Doesn't actually effect reality.

I like the idea of flat Earth solely because of the type of people it pisses off. Unfortunately I am aware that you can book a flight directly from Sao Paolo to Johannesburg, and that just doesn't work on the flat Earth model. I think it's harmless enough though, and most of the people who get frothing-at-the-mouth mad about flat Earth are massive faggots desperately searching for someone to punch down at so they can feel smart.

>>6040070
>movies out of nowhere
Valid points in almost every post, thoughbeit.

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>>6036069
Appeal to credentials fallacy.
Dave is a pile of shit and a mason. He even calls people morons when they ask him questions to explain empirically the science behind the globe. Dave mceggan does the same. Total avoidance
Believing in masonic pseudoscience doesn't magically make you right.
Model references, assumed calculations, unproven theories, and fallacies don't count as empirical evidence.
Ballers still need to demonstrate empirical evidence before their magic mentally ill ball can be considered

>>6040110
>he thinks using big words make him smart
You have no idea what appeal to authority is. You cry about Farina calling you names, as if your flat earth daddies, like that shitstain Oakley don't do even worse. You then talk about Mckeegan not showing things, when he has repeatedly used his photography knowledge to clearly demonstrate how wrong your side is. Simple stuff that a 5 year old child could understand, yet somehow you don't.
>Believing in masonic pseudoscience doesn't magically make you right
>Model references, assumed calculations, unproven theories, and fallacies don't count as empirical evidence
Stop using words you don't understand. You have no idea what science is, so throwing up some word salad just makes you more ridiculous?
>empirical evidence
A lot of posts here have already shown you easy experiments to recreate yourself, but of course we know you're too brain dead to even understand them, much less do them yourself.
Go kill yourself, you'll raise the average human IQ by several points. It'll be the only thing worth something you managed to do in your life

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>>6039819
>Eratosthenes measured the size of our globe.
He assumed light rays to be paralel before measure shadows. Sticks and shadow won't tell the shape of the surface under our feet. Bodies of water find level everywhere on earth, therefore it can't be a ball. To claim level surface is curved is no better than claim man can get pregnant.

>>6040162
You just repeat the same things again and again, like the mindless retard you are.
People have observed the curve with nothing but some straight edges and duct tape. Go out of mommy's basement and do something to actually disprove it instead of spouting the same bullshit as your flat earth daddies.

>>6027355
We found someone more stupid than flat earthers.

>>6040162
>false equivalence
Lol

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>>6039438
He looks like the kind of guy who has his shit together.

>>6028864
I want to protect her.

>>6030147
>why did the camera lens that causes the LENS flares not change 24h later????

>>6030742
What a gay.

>>6036415
how do we see a thing with a telescope when we know exactly where it is around the earth at any time due to its predictable orbit? gee buddy i guess there is no way
>>6039440
so there is a row of projectors stretching across the earth, shooting a beam of light up to create an image of the ISS on the 'dome'.
so these projectors have worked flawlessly since the station was put together, never give themselves away by shining up through any water vapor, turn on and off seamlessly so the image never falters, flickers or distorts because of the angle at which it projects.
also a simple laser shining up would give enough data to reveal a dome over the earth. or is the dome beyond the moon? or beyond any of the planets we can see with a simple telscope? or the distant stars (that we know are a long way away because the red light from them outpaces the other frequencys)?
thats the fun with flattys, they dont THINK when they fart out bullshit concepts to prove their scam belief is true.

>>6040293
I wanna know about the point the guy makes in the video, what illuminates it if it's hidden from the sun.
Is the light from cities enough to make the iss and low satellites shine that bright?

>>6040296
you mean the flat earth sun that visibly changes size as it goes around above us and also is totally not visible while also lighting the full moon...
or the sun that can shine from the other side of the round planet, hitting things in orbit while also not hitting the ground around an observer?
just a moments rational thought gives all the answers to this head scratcher...

>>6040296
also if one flerf's batshit idea is BTFO then just move on to a deflection.
or perhaps its time to move to a faith that doesnt need to constantly defend itself against basic observations in order to gain more gullible followers to scam.

>>6040301
>visibly changes size
A glare filter allows you to see the actual size of the sun, and not its glare through the everchanging atmosphere, so surely you can use one to actually demonstrate this size change, right?
>the sun that can shine from the other side of the round planet, hitting things in orbit while also not hitting the ground around an observer
I see you have trouble visualising 3 objects not perfectly lined up in the same plane, that's some high grade geometry we only teach in middle school, after all.
>just a moments rational thought
Stop lying to yourself, you've never had a moment of rational thought in your life. Everything you spout comes from youtube videos made by retards who look to grift even more retarded people such as yourself.

>>6040319
so you cant pick one of the two models central to this argument.
one is self evident, one requires mind bending amounts of cope.
you think im a flerf or something? read my post again.

>>6040319
if the sun is not reflecting off a sattelite they are very hard to see, but they do appear using an ultraviolet filter

>>6040301
>>6040307
I wanna know about the point the guy makes in the video, what illuminates it if it's hidden from the sun.
Is the light from cities enough to make the iss and low satellites shine that bright?

>>6040336
light from the moon would also reflect off a sattelite if the angle was right.
any man made light would need to be directed at a sattelite to make it visible, i doubt city lights are strong enough to make them visible to the human eye.

>>6040090
>Sao Paolo to Johannesburg, and that just doesn't work on the flat Earth model
What. How does that not work.

>>6040090
I don't know about others, but it's less about getting angry and feeling smart because I'm pinching down, than make fun of retards who think themselves way smarter than they really are, and I get to learn some neat stuff at times.

>>6040328
Got confused by the conv there. My bad.

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>>6039988
>>6039991
Lol...I grew up at the beach. I've laid down and looked across the ocean and thought about how far I could see out into infinity many many times. I drove down the coast and watched Catalina Island disappear. Go do it yourself. I'm not saying believe me because I'm an expert, I'm saying believe me because I've done it a million times. I know this is not a joke to some people. They actually believe the earth is flat and I worry about them Lol I'm trying to help your dumbass. I've also talked to a flat earther in person and he told me it's cool and he didn't wanna talk about it anymore. I said why are you so scared of the truth as he walked away like a little bitch.
Be sure to wipe with your left and eat with your right all you super smart flat earthers Lol

>>6040629
>>6039988 is not a flat earther, the post is about flat earthers being basement dwellers and have no idea how anything works.

>>6040629
>>6040005
like i said, i don't care about any of this stuff.
whatever shape the earth is will have absolutely zero impact on me or anyone else for the foreseeable future.
certainly, knowing or believing in the shape of the earth will be even less important.
nasa spends billions of dollars to find out what happens to ants in space.
i don't care what happens to ants in space
i don't care what happens to people in space
i don't care what happens to our planet in space
i don't care what happens in wars and conflicts on our planet
i don't care what happens to people in my city at night
neither them nor i have any impact or control over the other. they are just things that happen and i am just a soul drifting by.
i read your post and, for a second, i was inspired to reply. now i find myself at the computer again cleaning up old tabs, and find this conversation has missed my point entirely.
and so i drift

>>6040653
>>6040997
My post still applies and is directed at flat earthers, sorry you got caught in the crossfire. Welcome to the planet. It's full of idiots. Get used to it. It's like getting mad at bad drivers on the freeway. You know when you get on that freeway there will be idiots. If you get road rage and get mad at them that's your fault and you just become another idiot. Same thing applies with the internet. Lol

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moon is a real and updated reflection of the earth.
image (rotate horizontally with Paint) of the earth taken from this site:


https://www.discovermagazine.com/finally-a-world-map-that-doesnt-lie-13

"flat earth" / "space is fake" is a well poison from the CIA to discredit any websites that feature discussions on the JQ
this is to discredit everyone as a total lunatic

this, of course, has spectacularly failed because of israel + people didn't really care that much since the internet is extremely wild, and flat earthers are tame compared to some other shit going around

failed ops

>>6041086
>doesn't even look similar with squinted eyes
You retards come up with the dumbest shit.

>>6040997
Is this some copypasta?

>>6041086
i looked out my window and everything was grey.
no green trees
no blue ocean.
so what kind of mirror makes everything grey and how come the place that is supposed to be my country can be lit up at night on the moon but dark where i stand.
so many questions... must be my fault, obviously

>>6041138
Take off the tinfoil hat. Grifters just found an opportunity to scam money off of idiots. No need to bring your all-encompassing conspiracy theories into this.

>>6041462
"I looked at the sky during the day and everything was blue
no white clouds
no shining star
So, what kind of effect makes everything celestial and why is it supposed that when explorations are in space everything is dark and without any kind of visible star, except supposedly the sun and the moon if it is daytime where I am?
so many questions... it must be my fault, obviously"


Here you have explained how the atmosphere works, and if the sky is blue during the day, something similar happens with the moon but being at a greater distance it must be that other layers influence so that the moon appears gray and that it has to do with protection from different radiation:
https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/blue-sky/en/

>>6041520
thanks for the trip into your imagination.
dunno who asked

>>6041520
>in space everything is dark and without any kind of visible star
These questions are trivial and have been answered for decades. You are one dumb motherfucker if you can't even grasp these basic photography concepts. A child is smarter than you.

>>6033466
If there is a barrier why is there a gradient? Why do pressure and density change with changes in altitude? If you were shrunk down living in a scuba air tank your location inside wouldn't make any appreciable difference. whereas on earth you start to struggle with getting enough oxygen past a certain height.

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>>6040191
>You just repeat the same things again and again
I'm going to repeat it until you address lack of measurable curvature upon bodies of water. You amount of duct tape will change that.

>>6040247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAYPi0nqJ50

>>6034355
Why would there be a pressure gradient in your "sealed system"?

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>>6041746
>You amount of duct tape will change that.
No amount*

>>6041737
>>6041749
Why wouldn't?

>>6041765
that image is so stupid...
who wrote that doesn't know that gases are ALSO fluids and have mass...

>>6041746
>lack of measurable curvature upon bodies of water
I'm not here to educate you, just to make fun of you and your stupidity. Go do your own research. That's your big thing, isn't it? Since you're dumb, though, I gave you clues about a simple experiment, requiring nothing you couldn't get at a store. Perhaps are you not allowed in one without adult supervision, and your mommy is too ashamed to go with you there?

>>6041765
>video has the curve of the earth
You couldn't even put an image of your flat earth? You're even more retarded than initially thought.

>>6035850
Dave is great. I love that he actually talks shit to these retards and doesn't act like they are worth debating. Also he called some arab a sandnigger, which makes him based.

>>6040629
That must be so much fun

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flattys be like
>give me proof of curve
proof is delivered.
flattys be like ; great, now to try and find a way to undermine and erode this evidence to keep my precious belief alive, for I enjoy constantly battling reality.

>>6041765
muh pressure.

the flat earth cant exist
try building a disc of stone and dirt thousands of miles wide as proof of it.

this demand is as stupid as demanding proof of gas pressure with no lid.
our atmosphere is proof enough for all the people that know the flat earth is a joke.

>>6041765
>Why wouldn't?
Because sealed systems don't have a meaningful pressure gradient through them. I'll ask again, where could you go inside a scuba air cylinder that would mimic what you see at high altitude on Earth?

>>6037445
>ALL navigation is based on a globe.
Couldn't be more wrong. I'm not even a flattart but um what about literally all maps, and measurements. When you measure the distance between two cities and how long it will take to travel there, nobody, absolutely nobody is thinking about the ground curving and factoring it in. Retarded.

>>6042238
Not even a flattard but just about as retarded.
Celestial navigation is done with a globe geometry in mind. GPS also uses the globe.
Maps you would use for travel wouldn't really need to account for the curve, because they're too small to really matter. But for longer distances, like long range flights, they do take it into account, and you can see it if you map them onto a flat map, they tend to make a curve, whereas on a globe, the path is straight.

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>>6041086
cool!
which massive grey crater do you live in?

>>6041746
>no measurable curvature on water
What do you mean? Are you expecting to be able to see curvature at eye level or something?

>>6027298
>It's over for the CIA
So you mean that flat earth is over?? Because this shit was 100% invented by (((CIA))) to manipulate low IQs trash and for discredit the far right + the real conspiracies created by jews.

Flat earthers are the biggest low IQs retards of the planet, you have absolutely no brain. You can't even grasp the most basic science, you're dumbest than the dumbest niggers. Your flat earth bullshit model is impossible and makes absolutely no sense on every point, it literally can't exist. Absolutely everything contradicts your fairy tale. Your imaginary flat earth shit is one of the most easily debunked things it's been debunked literally since antiquity. But you keep denying reality and staying in your imaginary world out of cowardice/stupidity because you don't dare admit to yourselves that you're fat turbo-retards who have been wrong all along and that your (((bible))) is a bunch of old lies and kikes fairy tales from desert.

You CAN'T admit it because if you do you'll be forced to admit that you're also the biggest low IQs retards of the (globe) Earth since forever. And obviously you don't dare admit this truth. So you're going to deny reality forever until your death, just to avoid admitting that you're the biggest retards of the planet. It's quite sad in fact lol you've really dragged yourselves into a terrible mental trap with this dumb theory. You'll never have the courage/honesty to admit you're the biggest retards so you're stuck in this trap forever.

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>>6041792
>>photoshop edit proves curvature to exist outside of screens.

>>6042117
If earth is not flat, why would you strawman by mentioning a disk? I never mentioned earth to be a disk.

>>6042203
>Because sealed systems don't have a meaningful pressure gradient through them.
So, you won't admit it to exist unless it is "meaningful enough" to you right?

>>6042347
No. Only ballearthers expect water surface to be curved instead of level.

>>6042684
>being such a retard and not even entertaining
Stop repeating the same shit, especially when it's been debunked all over the place. Go find some other schizo stuff to post at least.
You don't know what any of the words you use mean. A test tube can make water curve, albeit up, so your claim of water ALWAYS being flat is already debunked.

>>6042684
>instead of level
Level being defined as conforming to the curve of the earth in any surveying textbook, and even in dictionaries if you read it carefully enough. Only in common usage does it mean horizontal, because at human scale it's essentially the same.
A child can be explained, and reasonably understand this concept, yet grown adults can't. You're the most retarded crowd on this planet.
>If earth is not flat, why would you strawman by mentioning a disk? I never mentioned earth to be a disk
If the earth is not round, why would you strawman by mentioning a ball? I never mentioned earth to be a ball.
Normal people call it a globe. Retard.
>So, you won't admit it to exist unless it is "meaningful enough" to you right?
Same shit as the "level" issue above. You're a retard whose pea brain can't grasp the concept of scale.

>>6042684
>I never mentioned earth to be a disk
obviously, you have no idea what you are looking at.
you just screech about no visible curve like you expect to see something.
You just dont know what you are looking at all.
A disc would have a curve after all, so proof of curve would be proof of a flat disc earth.
a square flat earth would have a visible corner somewhere.
So you dont know what you are looking for at all, thanks for the confession.

>>6042684
>ballearthers
you mean 99.99999% of us?
all the people who look at the combined evidence that builds into an understanding of the cosmos and our place in it and then use that system to function in the modern world.
and you use a condescending term to describe us?
when the next eclipse happens remember that we predicted it and you had no ability to.