is loli illegal in the US? do ppl ACTUALLY get in trouble 4 it? Im a rlly paranoid person
>>1555767I think it depends which state you live in. I live in Texas and I dont think its even enforced. I think its just to make it easier for law enforcement to get a search warrant to find the real deal stuff. For example I bought this manga, that has some questionable "loli" content in it. I had no clue until I read it.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DZ1Z15LH?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_2
YES IT IS ILLEGAL. USC 1466A, which specifically says 'cartoon' images:https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466Apeople HAVE been charged with just cartoon pornography, i've found local US news sites where bitter ex-wives turned their husbands in. 100% manga, no 3D shit, it counts.don't believe the naive weeaboos who say it's not a law, or it's never been applied, or it's only been used in conjunction with photographs. people have gone to jail purely because of lolicon by now.the law itself is pretty bullshit, and if you're worried, here are the guys you want to speak to:https://cbldf.org/they have some success stories, like this guy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdgSEPPCZsarrested in an airport because of a stupid chibi meme image.pic unrelated. Alan Moore is an artiste, so this counts as art.
>>1555767your front door is unlocked, lacari
>>1555767It's not specifically illegal, but this federal code >>1555772 makes it obscene if it's pornographic and not passing the Miller Test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_testAfter that, it depends on whether or not your state gives enough of a fuck to impose stricter or looser laws, and willing to spend taxpayer dollars going after jabronis for possession of lolicon.
>>1555777i'd say always fight it, if it happens. the Miller test is an interesting one, i wonder how that would generally go. i feel like Mr and Mrs Average American wouldn't view lolicon as 'art' but wouldn't consider it horrifically offensive/harmful, either? icky and strange, at any rate.stupidest thing to do is to just plead guilty.https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmo/pr/project-safe-childhood-24maybe this was the guy i was thinking of. but i found a few others in random American newspapers. similar situations (always the wife wtf).i have Saya no Uta on my computer right now. i consider that one artistic: it being uncomfortable is part of the experience. but i'm sure the right combination of police/judge/jury wouldn't see it that way, and they'd declare it porn.
>>1555767Ashcroft v Free Speech Coalition rules that loli isn't CP and isn't inherently illegal but that some of it might break local obscenity lawsStanley v Georgia says that mere private possession of obscene material is always fine, so any conviction for that would probably be thrown out on appealObscenity laws vary by state, but they all have to abide by the Miller test, where anything with the slightest artistic or literary value is always legal no matter what, so loli/shota in something that has a plot should always be fine
>>1555774Lacari had actual cp on his computer, retard. No one cares about hentai
>>1555814cp in anime art style is still cp, sis
how about canada?
>>1555830fuck off tranny
>>1555833>no argumentconcession accepted
>>1555832No one cares about Canada.>>1555830Legally, it's not.
>>1555835>Legally, it's not.good thing we're not discussing law then
>>1555837That's all OP needs to know. Why discuss anything else.
>>1555830>>1555834>>1555837
>>1555838im not op>>1555843either or fallacythanks for trying to run away with so many fallacies and concessions without actualy being able to refute the point btw
>>1555858
>>1555859>no argument againtroons are the ones who cant defend their views online and are into tranime and cp, sistry again
>>1555863>the ones who cant defend their views online and are into tranime and cpWhat an interesting observation you've made. Are these "troons" in the room with you right now?
>>1555879>What an interesting observation you've made. Are these "troons" in the room with you right now?given that you couldnt give an argument for like the third time in a row, yes, it appears its you, just how you wont reply to this with an argument again
>>1555880>Everyone arguing with me is the exact same person
>>1555882oh so you're saying im arguing with 5 different pedofiles and none of you can make a single counter argument? grim
>>1555884I can't change your mind on anything, and frankly I don't give a shit what you think. Why would I argue with you? I only posted to antagonize you, done with massive success, lol, look at you go
>>1555885>no argument pedo meltdownthanks i accept your final concession, cheers.
>>1555830nope
>>1555887>pedo meltdownAre these pedos in the room with you right now?
>>1555772This guys story is completely irrelevant here, he went to CANADA by plane and THEY made it out that what he had was to them considered obscene. His rights were totally violated.Nothing he did was illegal and none of the materials on his computer were considered obscene in AMERICA.Canada back at that time was both a) trying to police the internet under THEIR laws and b) making a huge push at loli to gain favor for their actions.They failed at both.>>1555830Not in america it isnt.This site can be so embarrassing to browse sometimes, you have every federal agency getting paid to be here entraping retarded nazis and crossdressers to go shoot somebody famous but none of them can answer a question as simple as is loli legal in the us despite being the ones that would know it first.
>>1555830They're entirely different things, even according to the law. It's typically different crime even in places where its illegal.>>1555833Do you have an actual source that says he was arrested for images of brown dust 2 gacha? or is that just a rumor?>>1555837Morally they are different as well.>>1555859why are people so paranoid about trannies? it's a mass delusion at this point.
>>1555770is it actually explicit sex in that manga?
>>1555959Kinda, the vagina is censored. Read "David Robertson" review he posts pics of the scene.
>>1555964I forgot to mention they also sell this same manga at Barnes and Nobles. I bought the first volume there.
>>1555767It's okay if you are registered as a republican.
>>1555959I also bought this manga recently. It also has questionable content. It advertises the characters as underage. This one is actually uncensored. https://a.co/d/0XMTzoa
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>>1555832Canada has arrested people and labeled them as criminal pedos for having adult looking anime characters in bland nun outfits. Rule of Thumb: Everything you do is a crime. If you are punished or not depends on how much effort others are willing to put into hurting you.
>>1555767It isn't illegal, or rather, if it is, usually people don't give a shit. CSAM is illegal.
>>1555767Yes you technically can get in real CP trouble for it. Around 10 years some guy got real CP jail time for having Simpsons porn involving Lisa.Are the FBI actively looking at sites that have loli/porn of underage cartoon/anime/hentai characters?Not really...If they are rule34.xxx, and other gelbooru sites would be taken down and people vanned by now.And twitter would be pretty fucked too.But there is a reason why Sad Panda is "difficult" to access. There is a reason why you get warnings if you search loli on image websites and stuff like google.Basically, will you get honeypotted and vanned for looking at loli or saveing loli online? Probably not. Maybe if you torrent it.If someone, especially law enforcement find childlike characters or similar on your person, phone, or computer? YES, they can and will arrest you for CP. In the U.S. it is still considered CP.I think the guy who got busted for Simpsons porn was arrested/under investigation and part of it was seizing his computer and while looking through his files they found Lisa and others porn.If you're that worried, do not save anything like that to your computer, only view it online. If its online and not some secret club, anyone can access it site like twitter, rule34 sites or twitter, if you do get in trouble you can fall back on a "its right there, out in the open for anyone!" defense.If you're looking at it through Sad Panda, not e-hentai.org, Sad Panda, or through some tor accessed website or anything else that requires "tricks" to view it, including foreign sites, then you're gonna be in hot water because not only was it not "publically" available, the fact that you "jumped through hoops" to access it really shows you're a pedo pervert.
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>>1556599>But there is a reason why Sad Panda is "difficult" to access.The reason is because it's a mirror-site of e-hentai where they can't run ads. They make it difficult so people who don't case about loli or other fjorded content like incest use the site with ads.Retard.
>>1556599>In the U.S. it is still considered CPNo it isn't.The Simpsons guy you mentioned was convicted of "obscene visual representations", which is legally different, and most importantly he was busted for real images too, it isn't always *legal* but it doesn't count as CP, readAshcroft v Free Speech Coalition from the supreme court
>>1556620>and most importantly he was busted for real images too,As someone that has saved various pictures off 4chan, I have no idea if I have any actual CP saved. Is there some kind of hash database for these images law enforcement looks for, so I could scan my saved files and discover that some random pictures are actually 16 year old girls?
>>1555832Canadian here. It's definitely illegal, but not enforced at all, and police seldom take it seriously, especially if it's not realistic.
>>1556754>but not enforced at allTell that to mizzyam.
Interesting conversation.
>>1557191so interesting that you had to necro-bump the thread
>>1556768From what I'm reading, he had actual cp and not just art?
