What is the Orthodox Church up to?
Theosis. Among Christians this is the most correct catechismally.
Praying for the world and waiting for Christ's return.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc27-dmJ_4w
>>40982421>>40982426>>40982441What made you anons believe in Christ?
>>40982826forgot to attach pic.
>>40982826It was a gradual process for me, I used to be very heavily into other belief systems, I spent several years doing a deep dive into eastern religion and actually practicing it, learned a lot about gnosticism, etc. In the end a combination of meaningful happenings in my life as well as some unidentifiable force that drew me to Christ (which I can only presume to be His grace) made me become Orthodox.
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>>40982410Actually believing the in word of Christ and not that of Satan like the current Caths and Prots.
>>40983346Come on brother let's not invite shitflinging
I actually really want to be orthodox, but the closest orthodox church is like 2-3 hours away by car, depending on traffic.What do I do? I'm already baptized as catholic and there's a catholic church way closer to me, should I just go there for now? Should I just pray alone until I can move closer to an orthodox church?
>>40983548Contact the Orthodox priest from the nearest church and ask him for guidance.I think in the meantime it can't hurt to develop a solid prayer life, read the lives of the saints, and so on. Immerse yourself in Orthodoxy basically.
Former catechumen here It was my experience of living at a number of monasteries for many months that showed me how idiotic Orthodox theology and praxis is.The most famous monasteries in the US are overloaded with homosexuals, neurotics, and schizophrenics. There isn't a single holy man among them, and the higher ranking older monks would agree to that.The truth is, Orthodox ecclesiology and historical claims are basically just made up on the spot, and once that thread unravels the whole thing falls apart.I'm still some kind of Christian, I guess, but no longer interested in any mainstream confession or denomination. Not like that matters.Anyhow, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk
>>40983735Would grains of sand dissuade you from knowing Christ? Would you be surprised to be described thusly by another?
>>40983548Make a day of it and head over there when you know there is a service - as the other anon said, maybe try to contact ahead of time to let them know you want to come, on a day when you can experience what they do properly. Then you can make some contacts and get some guidance while there. You don't have to go regularly if it's so far, but if you haven't been, definitely try once. Let God work, trust God, anon - be led by the Holy Spirit!
>>40983735I hope you find the way back to the Truth
I enjoyed this video. It's not only about life after death by the wayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAMCC9QiiTs
>>40983349I mean no disrespect to Caths and Prots who understand the message of Christ but the Churches obfuscate it and many have been manipulated by the current media.
>>40984423I agree with you. Nevertheless, I try to keep this quote in mind:>You ask, will the heterodox be saved... Why do you worry about them? They have a Savior Who desires the salvation of every human being. He will take care of them. You and I should not be burdened with such a concern. Study yourself and your own sins... I will tell you one thing, however: should you, being Orthodox and possessing the Truth in its fullness, betray Orthodoxy and enter a different faith, you will lose your soul forever.>St. Theophan the Recluse
>>40982410All they do is pray and eat bread, nothing special really
>>40982410Occultism for Jew on a Stick Worshippers. See: Jay Dyer.
>>40982410They’re garbage satanic worshippers like CatholicsGlowies like Jay Dyer and Issac weishaupt always tell people “ I’m not “xxxxx type of Christianity anymore, I’m orthodox”It’s so obvious this is the trendy religion they are herding the sheep towards
>>40988189What denomination are you?
>>40986117See this: >>40983760
>>40988284Grains of sand, no. The fact that christianity in any form is jewish black magic against the goyim, yes.
>>40988284You shouldn't respond to bait
>>40988381And yet there it is. They too will die and are meaningless. Death to the world.
>>40988381Its not bait, its an honest observation.
>>40988393>there it isYes, doesn't mean you have to engage with itWhether it's shitposting on here or gossip in real life, it stains your soul
>>40984423god's will thwarted by man? some god.
>>40988189You're in a filter bubble, I don't know what algorithm you're being fed exactly but on my end I'm not seeing Orthodoxy as a trendy religion. On the contrary, Im seeing a lot of Protestantism (see Reformed Zoomer) and all I watch is Catholic theologians. Consider using NewPipe, which prevents Youtube from curating algo's to you based on watched content. This filter bubble you're in is causing you to enter an echo chamber and it's prevented you from seeing reality.
>>40988710All forms of Christianity are growing. I don't know about America but in Europe it's mostly Catholicism that is seeing a revival among zoomers with a record number of baptisms, but Orthodoxy is also growing.
>>40988417Using all kinds of symbols, basically straight up calls itself a mystery religion, which All christianity is to barious degrees. I can at least respect Protestants to the degree that they dont worship idols and the ritualistic nature of their Blood Cult is so obscured that they can retardedly convince themselves they arent practicing esoteric rites. And salvation by faithis definitely less gay and brainwashed than believing in salvation by works and drinking the cum of jesus (baptism).
He that dwelleth in the secret place of the Most HighShall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress:My God; in him will I trust.Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler,And from the noisome pestilence.He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust:His truth shall be thy shield and buckler.Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night;Nor for the arrow that flieth by day;Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness;Nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand;But it shall not come nigh thee.Only with thine eyes shalt thou beholdAnd see the reward of the wicked.Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge,Even the most High, thy habitation;There shall no evil befall thee,Neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.For he shall give his angels charge over thee,To keep thee in all thy ways.They shall bear thee up in their hands,Lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder:The young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him:I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.He shall call upon me, and I will answer him:I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.With long life will I satisfy him,And shew him my salvation.
>>40988381Literally me in this pic.Thank you for posting it.
>>40988844All of us, brother
>>40982426haha damn ain’t that the truth. that’s really all any of us peons can do.
>>40988846Christ iz kang, brother.
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>>40988846God bless you and give you a wonderful day.
>>40988896You as well anon.
>>40988256That's a shitty reason to be good to people, wow. That's not love or genuine welcoming.
>>40982826I'll write a long response, wait please
>>40982826>>40989055So we can all see that this world ain't it, no matter how much we are gaslit. And obviously Religion is a human institution with the same flaws that keep humans low. But in all my life, all my thinking, I have come to two definitive conclusions about the nature of my (our) existence, and only of these 2 things I am sure. 1) I am NOT of this world. Again, no matter how much I am gaslit, it's obvious to me that I am at odds with the wordly environment, my presence is not wanted or plainly antagonistic to the world. It is paramount that I am pushed to despair and hopelessness while living, but there is a vague memory of something above this world. Like this world is only a vague, shadowy approximation of that above. Like if you wanted to draw a perfect circle, you'll never be able to, but there exists within you a distant knowledge of what a perfect circle should look like/be2) as described above, there exists this outside existence that is perfection, from which I draw this vague sense. That perfection is linked to me because I have the vague sense of it, the distance knowledge of its existence. Because I have the yearning for it, it means it wants me out of this pit, and that's proof enough for me to strive forward to try to know and love it.Originally, humans might have come to these 2 conclusions, and have created mechanisms and cosmologies to try to explain away the reasons for these 2 conclusions. The fact that Religion has become a tool for manipulation does not invalidate the reasoning behind the creation of religions. Humans are religious creatures because of their yearning for that perfection. I believe that yearning is the thread that links us to that realm, and that's the soul. The unbroken thread that goes perpendicular to all dimensions, that links all dimensions simultaneously, the same way you and your own shadow against concrete are linked. The light against which the shadow is cast is that perfection.
>>40982410Glowies push Christianity because they work for kikes and Christianity is a tool of the kikes and the purpose of this tool is to destroy the Aryan race. Jay Dyer is a glowie. Tucker Carlson is pushing the shroud of turin yet he wears a kabbalah bracelet.But who am I kidding, most of you are just natural born slaves because you don't see the problem before prostrating before a crucified Jew who looked like a hairy Arab turdman halal vendor. You deserve to get lied to.
>>40982410>What is the Orthodox Church up to?chilling in siberian forest, wearig sick hooded-robes, contemplate divine matters all day.
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badass runes & cryptic cyrillic letters
posting fake orthodox, they exist, be careful whence researching an irl church to attendthere are MANY scammers specially in the caribbean countries-central america
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FAKE schema monksaesthetics isn't holiness
>>40989450Yeah if a church has "true orthodox" or something like that in the name it's a bad sign. But it's pretty easy to figure out if a church near you is canonical by checking out which bishop it answers to and which patriarchate that bishop belongs to.
Facts: Orthodox church is gay, just like the whole russia
>>40989382actually its all greek
>>40989500>>40989510>>40989544>>40989538>nooo, those are fake animals & fake russians, the buildings are made out of plywood, the scenery is merely a set build in hollywood, those arent real orthodox because i subscribe to some other variation of it & it doesnt fit my worldview & god is gonna be big mad if i dont shove my worldview down everyones throat & i end up in hell.
>>40989554old church slavonic?
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>>40982410being aesthetic as fuck
>>40982410>>40982411>>40982421>>40982426They're summoning Cthulu
I am incredibly tired of sin, tired of the evils of this world, I care not for tribal didputes, I just want peace and love, yet the evil one has this world in its grip, a travesty.I can't do it alone, I am too retarded, too impulsive, too egocentric, too arrogant, too greedy and too gluttonous. JESUS CHRIST HAVE MERCY I BEG OF YOU.
>>40988880Point out what i lied about? Fucking faggot.
>>40991800You know what, snake.
The Orthodox Church frankly isn't some exception to the all Organized Religion is bunk idea, so don't get me wrong here, but I do have to admit I have respect for Orthodoxfags. They really did try to maintain a lot of the Mysticism. Catholics ooze Mysticism, but none of them have any idea and they're all completely blind to it. Hell, they even retained muh vampires very heavily. The funniest part of this whole thing is the other denominations chastise them for it. But Orthodox leans into a lot of the Mysticism that I respect, sort of like Mormons do (though they get different things right iirc).Theosis -see >>40982421 - comes from Apotheosis, for example. This is a deeply Mystical practice and was essentially Alchemy in a nutshell.
>>40991810Considering you are a shabbos goy of the synagogue of satan, its quite ironic you calling me a snake for pointing out the obvious truth of your precious orthodox fag mystery cult. So no, i wasnt lying, you christians are such deceptive kike shills.
>>40988770Huh? This seems like a shitpost, but you complained about sensible things that show you actually understand differences between them.First, let's cover what's wrong with a Mystery Religion. Can you explain that first?Next, can you explain Protestants not "worhsip[ing] idols"? I've had an experience that counters this many times.>Blood CultCan you explain what this is? You later make fun of "drinking the cum", which shows you understand on a surface level (maybe you're just having fun though) aspects of Mystery Rites. But I'm not sure if we're on the same page with "Blood Cult".>they aren't practicing esoteric ritesIs that a bad thing, anon? Can you explain why it is or isn't?>salvation by faith is definitely less gay and brainwashedCan you explain what makes it less gay and brainwashed? I'm increasingly inclined in the opposite direction. Are we saying the Calvanists, for example, are better because they don't aid niggers and faggots, even immigrants? Because if that's where you're headed, I don't really disagree. I'm just curious and wish for you to expand.
>>40990092Why dont you ask Jesus to remove your shortcomings and then take action on transmuting them? Instead of just throwing your hands up and wallowing in them. Aren't you just giving "the evil one" power by acting like you cant do it? Aren't you perpetuating his evil? You can beg for forgiveness and mercy from your god all you want but it seems to me that the best way to fight "the evil one" and truly repent would be to let go of his chains?You Christians are a curious bunch. Preaching virtue while forsaking its attainment. Instead choosing to give evil power over you and the world.
>>40992729Ok, but why are you lying so hard?
>What's the little angled bit on their cross?>Why do their icons look like that? (I get the symbolic meaning behind the process, but they always strike me as off)>Whats with all the yellow in their churches in the states.
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>>40988958Wow no replies to this? Damn.
>>40993712your take was made in bad faith so why reply?
>>40982410Pray for me brothers and sisters in Christ. I am a shameful sinner, alcoholic and drug addict. I have removed drugs from my life but I keep failing to abstain from alcohol. I’ve broken promises with God I should’ve never made. Please, please pray for me. I will devote my next rosary to you my brothers and sisters in Christ. He is my only hope. Thank you.
>>40994124You have my prayers, friend. I know the struggle of addiction. >St. Eulalia, age thirteen, was the daughter of a noble family that lived near the city of Barcelona. Amid the persecutions of Christians under Roman emperors Diocletian and Maximian, governor Dacian arrived in the city intending to carry out the persecutions. Sometime later, Eulalia left her home, entered the city, and publicly confronted the governor for the persecution of Christians. In response, Dacian ordered Eulalia to be stripped and tortured by flagellation, then having her subjected to various other tortures. Eulalia prayed that God would take her to Heaven, and died from her wounds.I found out about this saint yesterday and it moved my heart, I'm 24 struggling with lust; and I pray St. Eulalia intercedes for you and I, that her fervor in passion can esteem mercy towards us; and God can move mountains to answer the humble prayer of St. Eulalia, a true saint and martyr. Surely, St. Eulalia, and hopefully, her and other martyrs like her, can look towards us; and see our sincere love for Christ in imperfect contrition or perfect contrition.Father, please watch over this man and give him the strength necessary to overcome alcohol. May you have mercy and the final word all things considered; we ask in the Lord your Son Jesus' name.St. Mary, intercede for us, we too, humbly pray.Amen.
>>40993188Christcuck cognitive dissonance
>>40992985Literal boomer pull yourself up by your bootstraps tier response
>>40992966Why do you keep responding to bait? Gossip and empty words are a real scourge on the soul
>>40993241It's angled in reference to Saint Dismas who was crucified next to Christ. It's angled upwards on the right and downwards on the left because Saint Dismas accepted Christ and entered paradise, while the other criminal rejected Him.Icons represent a transfigured reality, they're meant to look otherworldly.Not American so can't say
>>40992068I protestant and feel the same way as you. Check out Thomas Merton if you havent already for some good Catholic mysticism
>>40994598I can do a lot with "Catholic Mysticism". What if I told you the real Transubstantiation is a cargo cult practice not even modestly understood by virtually any modern participants? No one today seems to know the real ritual they were performing was involved sexual intercourse, bleeding and consumption of both the blood and sexual fluids of those who had sex? What if I told you this is what "Jesus" really meant during the Eucharist? The alternative is he instead used an entheogenic brew, in alignment with "drinking the blood", which catalyzed the entheogen with a medicinal wine tincture, to visit a Psychopomp with his friends, which you now frame with "Holy Spirit"? What if I told you that the Catholics had been talking about the wrong "Mary" this whole time?Even further, their references to Dagon are abundant, right? Well this really translates to Enki and the genetic relationship between the focus(es) of Catholicism and Enki himself? All of the references to Fish, to Pisces, to "walking on water", boats and showing people things they didn't understand before, performing "Miracles", point to Enki. You know, the guy that created Human(s) - Consciousness. All of these are the Catholic Mysteries and I could do a great deal more. The problem is they have no idea why they're doing this, what any of this was supposed to mean or why what Aquinas wrote was so important. They don't seem to understand why there's only Four Gospels. They don't know how to properly translate what the right Mary was or what she was doing, so all the retards just called her a prostitute. Hell, Paul was a Celt. He wasn't a "jew" and there weren't any back then (not yet at least). Most of those letters he wrote were to Celts. Galatians, right? Well it turns out they were just Celts.Any idea where Macedonia was?
>>40995809All of this is untrue. I recommend you look at the teachings of the Fathers, things are both simpler and much more beautiful than you think. I mean no offense by this
>>40995845It took me a while to come to terms with all of it too, anon. Catholicism was actually where I started. In time, you'll learn what the Vatican really is. You said your a proti, so you're already half way there. You may frame the Pope as Satan or something, eh? You're not far off based on what you think "Satan" is, for what it's worth.Mormons and Mennonites are pretty cool. If you really need the community attached to organized religion, I do suggest these two or Orthodox, for what it's worth.
>>40995863Sorry, I'm not the guy you responded to originally, I'm Orthodox. What I meant is that syncretistic theorizing is very often if not always spiritually harmful, deference to patristics and the Church's theology is not only sufficient, it's necessary. I used to want to "connect the dots" in that manner but a lot of Fathers talked about this behavior as inviting prelest.
>>40995876I'm fully aware of the talking points, anon. I'm also aware that your position doesn't support the framework that my position rests upon and I'm not here to lecture you about Vamachara and Dakshinachara and why you obviously don't enjoy Heterodox practices.
>>40982410I am orthodox but I don't know anymore these days. It does feel like orthodoxy christianity it's all a kike simulation, allowed to exist because it is kike based, this is a problem for me. How many people waste their time every week praying going to church participating for what? What about just helping your community and spending that time building and growing and doing other things? I had terrible things happen to me and the orthodox communitys answers of "just pray" and "god will solve everything" is stupid. It's not smart. The people who follow these religions are not smart people and it's like what is all of this for? It feels like it's just jesus christ pretend time for grown men who may or may not be gay hiding it.
>>40995882Well, that's fine. God bless you and protect you always.
>>40995902Same to you, fren. If Apotheosis is what you seek (which I heavily endorse), then I hope you find it.
Isn't it much simpler to just pray the jesus prayer, shut the fuck up, and carry out the will of the Father as best you can? I'm tired of the politics, the schizo shit, and theology autism
>>40992966Well, im nit a christian. I think christianity and all abrahamic religions are jewish desert demon cults, and to be avoided. Thats all forms of christianity. I was not raised christian but went to a evangelical methodist school so we read a lpt of KJV and ive always had an interest in religion. So, what i think is wrong with a mystery religion may ne different from you. My comment was mainly about the heavy focus on “mysteries” which can very rightly be considered a form of occultism (i know, you guys hate that word) within orthodoxy, while at the same time acting like you are not practicing an esoteric ideology. Id say the problem with mystery cults depends on the tiered iniatic (not sure if thats a word) nature of the religions, where the true meaning of the higher ups understanding is intentionally withheld from the rabble, like in freemasonry. I say blood cult, because the blood of christ washing away your sins, even though they believe it gives them eternal life, is still imo the remnant of again a desert demon blood sacrifice religion see: animal sacrifice, circumcision, god having the israelites genocide the other nations etc. is practicing esoteric rites bad imo? No, as long as you’re honest with yourself about it and not practicing self deception.Why do i think works based salvationmis a more flawed model from a philosophical standpoint? Well, just look at the very term “mystery” Its something you dont wholly understand, and while parts of it may be revealed, other parts remain ovccvlted. And yes, i can definitely respect a form of christianity that is more or less pro white. Idk about John calvin, but Luther was definitely against jews. And the school i went to was definitely anti catholic and jewish, thought they didnt outright say it. But any religion that believes in sending missionaries is definitely gonna be part of the N problem you memtioned with christianity. I saw a graph recently that was saying by 2050 50% N
>>40998721Sorry for all the typos
>>40994593I take it they aren't as yellow overseas? It doesn't seem that way from the photos I see online.
>>40995898Personally, and I know this is gnostic, I think that the jews are almost demonic in some way. God chose them because he chose the most spiritually able people to join him through theosis, but instead, the current day jews reject him and are purposefully going away from God.
>>40982410https://youtu.be/h2QUXNhyT78?si=JVkYvnZ35kKYlMwC
>>40997181Yes>>40998955Not sure what you mean by yellow. Being covered in icons which themselves are covered in gold leaf?>>40999194It's not gnostic to say current talmudic "judaism" is satanic. Also pretty sure most current jews aren't even from the same bloodline as ancient israelites, I'm not sure if the claim that they're actually canaanites is true but it wouldn't surprise me
>>40994425>buzzword buzzwordK>>40995898Idk about you but my catholic church has active charity movements, and volunteership with orphans. >>40999251tldr, please no grotesque close ups of someones face on my screen.
>>40999570Accurate description of jewbot shilling>le buzzwordGood goy, your masters are proud. You get +1 foreskin token.
>>40999570>responding to baitRefer to >>40997181
>>40999570Schizo spergs out on orthocux
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>>40993772>>40993772No, it's genuine. It's a bad reason to be good to a person, do you agree? If not help me understand so I can understand the beliefs better.
